August 1, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Thursday August 1, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- Katie Tattoo Eyebrows
- Rumination Over Pain, Bad Habit, Abigail Shire
- The Love Panel... Stalker Beeoch or not
- Why is there an 8th Grade Graduation / First Dance
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Katie. The why do you look so surprised? Katie is
a joke about her new eyebrow tattoos, which she mentioned
during the show. So, I don't know anything about eyebrow tattoos.
You're going to get them today? Is this a common thing?
Why do you do it? What does it cost? I
need all the ins and outs.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
It is relatively common. There's a few different ways you
can have it done. You can have them tattooed. There's
something called micro blading, which is similar to tattooing.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And so I'm doing the tattooing today. So you mentioned
that one of the reasons you want to do it
is so you don't have to tattoo yourself every day
before you come to work. Those those eyebrows I'm looking
at right now aren't real.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
They they're I mean, I have eyebrows, but I need
to fill them in regularly and they they don't line
up properly, and it drives me nuts. So yeah, I
draw them on every day at three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
They don't line up properly.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
No, they don't. One like starts farther back than the
other and it just dies. I'm so sick of it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You're a monster. I can hardly look at you. Uh huh, wow.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Bridge troll. But iyebrows. Eyebrows are hair, So isn't it
gonna look like Groucho Marx's mustache.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
No, so they they do the tattooing and microblading in
hair strokes, so it's it's a very fine needle and
they go in and they actually make it look like hair,
so it'll look somewhat natural. But the healing process is
going to be hilarious.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So are you to be wearing like big Yoko Ono
sunglasses tomorrow or what?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I was debating a hat?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
But I'm not too sure how close I can get to,
so I might just have to let you guys stare
at them.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Look at your open wounds. Yeah, losing open wounds above
your eyes.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I'm so excited about this. I know it's it's probably
sounds insane to you guys. But the process of drawing
them on and messing them up and having to go
back and redo them, it's just at thirty five, I
don't know how to draw my eyebrows on.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
So this is going to be a huge timesaver. Yeah,
well do where do you get that? Will they move
with your face like you you can look surprised her
moss on her skin your nine.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
No, they're like floating, so they stay while the rest
of my face is animated.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's like a filter on Google mets ah See. I've
never been a party girl, so all of this is
to me like, you know, like a tribe in the
Amazon that's had no contact with.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The modern world. Your ways are foreign to me.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well not probably, you guys would have no. No, you
guys both have great eyebrows. Well I'm I am someone.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Who's started mediocre at best, started.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Dyeing his goatee now and then, so I understand the
need to uh do something to your face. What is
this going to cost you? It's five hundred dollars? WHOA,
But it's permanent. Mm hm, it's permanent, which I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
If you think about it, if you get a tattoo
like a really good one. You're getting up in that range, especially,
you know, and this is the permanent makeup. So, I mean,
people get their their eyeliner done, which I can't do.
People get their lipliner. My mom did her eyeliner and
her lip liner. I have no idea how she let
a needle that close to her eyeball.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I know some people that have done those, and I
don't dig it. So maybe there's probably, like everything else,
there's getting a really good version of it done and
not as good version depending on price. I don't know,
but I've known some people that did the permanent eyeliner thing,
and you just you look a little like a raccoon. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Uh depend you can always add more. You can't go full.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I'm Courtney Love at a nightclub to start, I think, right,
but I am.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Taking a risk because I mean, I'm praying to all
that is holy that it doesn't get done, and I
hate it.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
The eyebrow makes more sense to me than the eyes
or the lips.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Actually, oh yeah, unless some sort of shaven headed look
becomes super hot in the future.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, women shave their eyebrows, shave their heads.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Just the you don't notice what eyebrows do for your
look until you don't have them. When I was doing
chemotherapy and I lost all my hair and my eyebrows
went away, it's it makes you look weird.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, and people are shaving them off right now as
like a trend. Yeah, there's a girl I follow on
Instagram who shaves her eyebrows off only to draw them
back on every day because she doesn't like how they're placed.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh so she wants me in a different place. This
is real life, guys. Do we know why human beings
have eyebrows?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I think it's just part of the whole keeping stuff
out of your eyes, you know, multiple layers of protection.
I think it may be partly just to catch stuff
that would fall in your eyes, and partly for sensory reasons.
Because where you have hair, anything that touches it, even
though it hasn't got your actual skin yet, you become aware.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Of animals kind of have eyebrows. You can feel them,
like on a dog or whatever.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
The Google is telling me that eyebrows help protect our
eyes from bright light.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Couple advisors, you gotta have a pretty heavy brow for
that to work.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Damn cave many quick question, Katie, so if you do
not like these, is there a way to get them
removed at all?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Or is it permanent? No matter what?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Well, I mean there's a there's tattoo removal. But no,
I'm pretty much screwed if I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Like Do you have to use a color? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So, and the woman who does this is fantastic. I've
seen a lot of her work, so I'm very excited
about this. But she's gonna go in look at the
color of my natural hair and do all of that
stuff that I don't know how to do and line
them up and.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well I wouldn't normally ask this, but is that your
natural hair color that we see every day?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I'm like a dirtyish blonde. Oh okay, So a
lot of women have to spend a lot of money
to get their hair the color your hair is naturally,
that's handy. Yeah, okay. Then you get your eyebrows to match.
I got it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And if you hate the look, you can just start
wearing a sweatband a headband like John McEnroe in the
nineteen seventies, which is my third count third out of
date cultural reference this podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Thanks for coming.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So now we are in the uncomfortable position, since we
know you're getting this done, that we have to tomorrow
say oh it looks great.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
No you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I don't want that. If it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Work, I need to know, so oh please not gonna
be me.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Besides, you know, a couple of my kids have a
handful of tattoos, and so I know it takes a
while before it looks good. There's the whole healing process.
Although with that microfid needle you're talking about, it might
be different. So I'm expecting you to look like a
boxer who had a rough night.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
They said that there can be bruising and that it
takes about ten days for it to look how it's
going to look. So this is going to be a
journey we're taking together.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
This is going to have to have a card to
hand out. No, there's no domestic violence, right, no kidding?
Have they told you is this going to hurt more
than a regular tattoo.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I've been told it's painless.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Apparently she puts this lytacane cream over them and then
let's it sit for a while and does it mind.
My mom had it done and said that she didn't
feel a thing, So I don't know if that's my
sweet mother trying to comfort me, or if it actually
is painless.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Are you a piercings person? Yeah, I have tattoos and piercings.
Oh okay, so this is not unfamiliar to you this
sort of time.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'm thinking of getting a hairline tattooed, like in roughly
the color of my hair as it is now, kind
of salt and pepper, but like the Eddie Munster, the
low like almost chimp like hairline.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'm going to give you a hard no on that, Joe,
don't do that. Could I get my bald head like
tattooed to make it look like there's hair?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
That is a thing that people are doing. Yes, Oh,
I've seen that. There is actually a business that just
opened up in my old hometown that specializes in that procedure,
where guys are going in and having little black or
whatever dots done all over their head to make it
look like just a little bit of hair growth, like
im like a shadow.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, I might do that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That is doable. I could see doing that. Do that
dire dire goatee?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, just knowing you, you'll like read the first paragraph
of an article about it, then try to do it yourself.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Probly send the money. I'll lend you the money.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, what color hair?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Jack?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Would you? Would you be a redhead?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Or would you.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Ooh, I don't remember what color my hair was. You
can get the pattern. You can just get a stripe
down the middle so it looks like a little mohawk. Well, okay,
well we look forward to seeing how this turns out tomorrow.
Maybe we'll post pictures at the website. And that's why
not let people comment. That's always a good idea. You
could take a poll. Do these look like?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
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Speaker 1 (09:36):
This author, Abigail Schreyer, who's written a bunch of different things,
got a lot of attention. But anyway, this particular aspect,
given my dislike of most therapy and my experiences with
therapy both for me and my family and my kids,
and the many thousands of dollars spent and how little
good it did, if not more harm, I thought was
(09:58):
really really interesting. So this is from the Joe Rogan
podcast with an author who has written a book about
this sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
I mean, it's the number one symptom of depression is
what they call rumination, this pathological obsessing.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Over your pain.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
Yeah, that's why stuff like exercise. That's one of the
reasons aside from chemical reasons. One of the reasons that
doing it. You know that running errands is good for
your mental health. Getting out of your house and accomplishing anything, yeah,
is good for you. But sitting around talking and thinking
about your problems, that's a bad habit. And the best
cognitive behavioral therapists and others, you know, the dialectical behavioral therapist,
(10:34):
the ones who do really well with depression, the first
thing they do is try to break that on that
bad pattern. But a lot of therapists just indulge it. Yes,
a lot is in practically all of them. What you
do every week is go in and restate your miserable situation,
whatever it is, and talk about it some more, and
(10:55):
then give them a bunch of money and come back
next week and ruminate on it some more. Sometimes for
years at a time.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, I was clicking around about this book and other
things and having to come across a piece in the
National Review which talks about this book bad Therapy, why
kids aren't growing up with Jonathan Height's brilliant new book,
The Anxious Generation, how the great rewiring childhood is causing
an epidemic of mental illness and.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It's all of a piece.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's all just the constant focus on your own mental health.
It sounds revolutionary to say in the modern world, but.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Just just get stuff done you'll be thatppier.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yes, Ketty, Well, no knock on on therapy, But I'm
thinking about I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Happy to knock on therapy all day long.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Well, I and I am too. I went through it
and it's just not it's not for me.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
There's good therapy helps lots of people. I know people
have been helped, but most of it's crap and a
waste of money.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
But I'm thinking about what she said there, and the
people that I know that are actively going to therapy
weekly are my friends that talk the most about their
problems all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And I wonder if.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
There's like a can if it carries over, like you
open that threshold you just now you just talk about them.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
What's interesting is like the knock on American culture back
in the day was nobody talked about their problems and
kept them inside. And that was supposedly awful, unhealthy. Maybe
it was maybe we just got it wrong with the
pendulum swinging too far the other direction, or maybe that
was the way people are kind of designed to deal
(12:25):
with them. You just try to put them out of
your mind and move on. I don't know, but the
focusing on it and talking about it all the time
doesn't seem to be working for people.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's a great industry, yes, and sells a hell of
a lot of pills. If I wish I had one
one thousandths of a share of all the money that
has been made on questionable psychiatric pills.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's one of the uh.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
One of the failures of capitalism, I think, is the
nexus between private equity industry and medicine. It's really perverted
the doctor patient relationship in a lot of unhealthy ways.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But the talking therapy. You go in and so you
had a bad mom who treated you poorly, and you
go in and you talk about that every week for
decades in some cases. Yeah, and know lots of people
that have done that, And I just, why is it
ever going to change?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I just I don't have.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
All I have is my own experience and that of
some people I've known very well who've dealt with similar things.
But number one, I'll tell you from my experience, depression
is entirely inward facing. If you can outward face and
interact and accomplish things and look at other people and
their needs and their challenges and their pain, that is
the best cure for depression in the world.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Getting out of your own head.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And the second thing that just occurred to me, And
this is an oversimplification, but you know, like I'm always saying,
the two things human beings do is underthink and overthink.
And I think that this may be one of those
overthinking things in that you remember, we've talked about what
you do, that's your priorities, how you spend your time,
(14:08):
those are your priorities. I don't want you know any
blah blah blah no. What's really important to me is
blah blah blah No. The way you spend your time
and attention is what's important to you. And if you
spend all of your time and attention on your problems,
that is the that's the occupation of your life. And
I've got to believe that all of us have an identity.
(14:30):
I'm the whatever guy, I'm the athlete, I'm the good
looking woman, I'm the go go achiever here at the
car Lota or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I'm the ness, surly, bald guy with RBF right exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
But if your identity becomes I'm the depressed, anxious person.
Everybody knows that about me. They're sympathetic towards me. I'm
taking a pill, babbah. If that becomes your image, you
can't let your image go. You can't abandon yourself image.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, that's a tough one, and I've known that. I
got to make sure that doesn't happen with a with
my son, that just he gets so locked into that
identity of his various problems. I've known people whose identity
was I was sexually abused, and that was it fit
into everything of the worldview. I don't know. There's the
Bromide axiom rule, whatever it is. Focus on your problems
(15:20):
and the problems grow. Focus on the solution, and the
solution grows. I've found that to be pretty damn true. Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So a quick excerpt from the books, Shriyer notes is
helpful to remember that your feelings are at the center
of everything all the time.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Thing is new.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It was not always Thus, she recalls two pieces of
advice that parents of gen xers and of earlier generations
would prefer to their children, knock it off and shake
it off.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
The first didn't over explain, it credited.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Kids with a common sense, or nudged them to develop rules,
had exceptions and workarounds. But knock it off single to
parent's disinclination to become entangled in them, and shake it
off didn't solve the worst injuries, but it did a
hell of a job playing triage nurse to kids minor
heartaches and injuries, proving to kids that the hurt or
fear or possibility of failure need not overwhelm them. I
(16:12):
like that, Hey, knock it off, You'll be fine. As
a method of triage, if the kid made it clear,
infinitely clear, like convincingly clear, No I'm not okay, Well,
that's when you offer the treatment.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
But if in the huge.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Majority of times the kid and then they're playing thirty
seconds later, that's brilliant triage. What a great way to
put that, you know part of it, I think, and
you know me, I believe that balance in all things.
We need men and women, compassion and order, and it's
got to be in the right mix. I just think
we've become so feminized as a society. The doting mom
(16:51):
who falls to her knees as the kid is skinned
his knee.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
You, oh my honey, bee my ow own. It's okay.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Oh that's become like eighty percent of American life.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And the dad says, that'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Or splash a little.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Water on it, go play, you'll be great. That is
now so completely out of fashion. We're making our kids nuts.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
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Speaker 3 (17:52):
It is Armstrong and Getty conveying our love Panel.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So you said love in Bloom or crazy Stalker psycho biatch?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yes, exactly, Okay, but that question will be decided by
the love panel.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's always the problem with that is just it's it's
it's it's whether or not the other person is interested
in you. All love like chasing someone's stuff is it's
just so romantic and well received if the other person's interested,
if they're not.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
And he never gave up, and now we've been married
for fifty years, right beautiful.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And I said no five times and I came out aside,
and he was waiting by my car with a rose.
If you kind of like the guy, that's just awesome.
If you don't like the guy, you call the police
and get a restraining order and maybe pepper spray him.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Or send your brothers to beat him down. Yeah, right, exactly. Ah, yes,
but this is a gal on a mission. Love and
Bloom are crazy. Stalker psycho Biat, let's find out. Thirteen Michael.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
I saw this really cute guy at the grocery store
the other day, so naturally I followed him to the
checkout counter, and when he gave the cashier his credit card,
I peeped it to see what his name was, and
then I googled him and found his social media profiles,
and I was able.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
To tell that he was single.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So I went through his friend's list, and.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
I found his mother's page and then I looked through
his mother's page and I saw that she was a
member of this book club that's in my area. So
I went to the book club meeting and I met
his mom there, and she just thought I was so nice,
and I brought it up randomly in conversation that I
was single, and she let me know that she had
a son that was single also that lived in the area.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And maybe it would be cool for us to get together.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
In chat sometime.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
So I gave her my number, which she gave to
her son, and this morning he texted me and asked
if I'd like to get together this weekend and do something.
So I guess we're going to go on a date.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I wait until he sees this video and goes, oh
my god, who did I go on a date with?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Wow, that's a pretty successful effort she made there. I
don't know how it's gonna turn out. That's insane.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Well, we have a little update for you. That young
man is now dissolving in a lad as that psycho
decided he wasn't worthy of living him. She is now
wearing his skin as a garment and his fingerbones as
a necklace.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Follow up segment, All right, all right, so.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Dude run from her. God, she actually went to the
book club meeting and got to know his mom.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh wow, because he's a cute guy. I mean, look,
let's all recognize, I can see a dozen attractive women.
There will be one that'll like make my brain explode
for what ever? A genetic anthropology, anthropological who knows why
it happens. Reason, doctor Freud had his own opinions, whatever,
(21:08):
And maybe it was one of those. Maybe it was
one of those. She saw him and just her jaw dropped.
It was like, oh my god, for whatever reason. Now,
certainly concocting some sort of can you help me out
to the car with this or that would have been
a hell of a lot more normal than the whole
(21:28):
Sherlock Holmes routine. How troubled are we by the detective
job and the roots she took.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Man, the the going to the book club and meeting
mom and getting to know her. That is that is
a that's a different level.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
That really feels to me like something that ends up
with somebody's cat getting murdered.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So, Katie, you're more up on the modern world of
how this is handling, how do we feel about just
like noticing the name on the credit card and doing
a little research on online, so that see, I think
that it was.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
It got weird the second she looked at his credit
credit card.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
To get his name.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I like Joe's idea, just hey, could you help me
to the car with this, or like a regular approach.
But I would be lying if I said that I
hadn't met a guy and he had given me his
name and I went.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Home and looked him up.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I've done that before, but not you know, to the
extent to go meet his mom at a book club
and then wear his skin later.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's weird.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Michael thoughts, Yeah, pretty psycho, I wouldn't. I'm like Katie.
I mean, maybe you look him up online, do a
little background check, but that's it.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Well, here's a little he gives you his name, you
don't look at his credit card to like kind of
I don't this.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
She sounds like a serial killer to me. Well, there's
a little surprise. We're gonna talk to him a live now.
He's chained to the radiator in her basement.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Help me, somebody helped me.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
The second part of the story, he goes missing and
she's helping his mom look for him at that point.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
That's how these horror movies go.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
She's up posters. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I've only become aware recently, and for reasons I won't
get into about how all you need is somebody. If
you have somebody's phone number, for instance, you can find
out everything and it costs you like a buck online,
and you got every place they've ever lived, every phone
they've ever had, all their friends, family members. Yeah, it's
(23:24):
it's horrifying. I mean, it's less worrisome as a dude,
but man, if I'm a young woman knowing that any
guy who gets a hold of my phone number at
all now knows where I live and where my friends
live and where I work and and everything, it's just, yeah,
it's just different world for that sort of thing. Of course.
(23:47):
On the other hand, buddy of mine pointing this out
to me their date and remember when we were younger,
all of our names were in the phone book with
our address, all of us, all of us. If you
knew somebody's name, you could look up their address. And
it's not like everybody got abducted every day, right, everybody's
name was in the phone book with their address. Did
the unlisted thing come later.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Is that no unlisted existed.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
But I never knew a girl that was unlisted. Every
girl she was writing the phone book.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, yeah, real rarity.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Getting back to the whole meeting mom book class book
club happened to randomly mention I was single and but
subterfuge that just that, that is a willingness to be
sneaky and duplicitous.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That isn't her first rodeo, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yes, yes, I think we're a little bit into the
the modern attitude where everybody's so paranoid of what would
you rather run into a bear or a man in
the woods for a woman? I mean, just you saying?
Was that before unlisted was available, like you wouldn't want
your name listed in the phone everybody had their address
the name in the phone book, and everybody was fine
(24:58):
with it, and everybody wasn't paranoid thinking, oh my god,
that's dangerous a guy could look up my address. It
worked out. I mean, so is culture that much worse
or are we just way more paranoid than we Well?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I would point out that if I had the hots
for Jenny Smith, or even unless her name was true,
her last name was truly rare and distinctive. There'd be
eleven of them in the phone book. I couldn't tell
which one. That was my experience at all, because I
lived in small towns. Everybody everybody's name. There was only
one Jenny Smith in every town. Everybody's address was right there.
(25:33):
And I don't remember anybody abusing it, or anybody even
talking about it being abused.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
No, nope.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
So what changed our parent of the reality of stalkers
or our paranoia.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Both? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
People aren't brave anymore.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
They don't want to just go and ask something, ask
some one out right in person, you know, just hey,
would you like to go out?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Would you like to get some coffee?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
That's like skills take developing, though, and we're not letting
our kids develop those social skills. I had chatted up
so many girls by the time I started college. Just
the idea of oh my god, I can't I can't
say hello to or it was just foreign to me.
It was not like I was some sort of bold
master gamesman or anything.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It was just so familiar to me. You know, hey,
how you doing well? Please?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Phones and internet have completely smashed that skill.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I think you know, this is a weird grab, but
it popped in my head for some reason.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I can't remember why.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
The other day I was thinking about the old like
the first Bob Seeger song with the what was the
name of his band, Bob Seger and the silber bulibin.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
No.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
No, that was before he was a solo artist, when
he was a Detroit rocker, but a rambling gambling man.
The line is ain't good looking, but you know, I
ain't shy, ain't afraid to look a girl in the eye.
And he I've always kind of liked that line because
he was a regular guy. But b We've got a
(27:07):
couple of generations who are terrified to look a girl
in the eye and say, hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So that getsack.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You think if she she found him alluring enough to
go through all that work, she should have made her
move right then.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, she's equipped with the tools to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Of course, if you're an all attractive young woman, all
you have to say is.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So I see you like cereal.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
That's good enough icebreaker.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Right there, exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Have a real.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Issue with her going on a date with him after
having done all of this and acting like it didn't
go down like that.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh yeah, well yeah, like, oh, we just so happened
to meet. I met your mom at book club.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Like the whole the start of whatever relationship this might
be is gonna be bs anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, that's that's a decent point there. You can't start
with a lie and then go from there.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah, this ends with a dead cat.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Trust Yeah, if you if you uh yeah, if you're
out with somebody and everything like that, and then she mentions, yeah,
I was talking to your mom. Wait a second, and
you know my mom? Why do you know my mom?
This is weird.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Okay, well let me tell you how this went down.
So I saw your credit card at the store. I'd
enjoy the book club that your mom is in. You're
twenty three year old woman. You're in a book club
with a bunch of sixty four year olds.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Why I like to read?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Pretending you want to read the Bridges of Madison County
so you can get to meet this old woman that
is going too far?
Speaker 8 (28:41):
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Speaker 1 (29:00):
My son who's fourteen and graduating from eighth grade this
week graduating, so he actually asked, why do they have
eighth grade graduation? Well, I don't know the real answer,
but where I grew up, I thought it was because
a lot of people stopped going to school at eighth grade.
(29:23):
There was a good chunk of the class that were
a particular religion, the Mennonites. They stopped at eighth grade.
So I thought that's why we had eighth grade graduation
because they were done. But then found out they have
eighth grade graduations other places, So why does eighth grade
graduation exist?
Speaker 8 (29:38):
You know?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I actually heard a.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Really interesting argument about this once, where the one point
of view was, hey, they've finished a level of school.
Let's say let's show them, Hey, education is important. We're
proud of you, a good job. Let's reinforce wanting to
stay in school and pass everything, which I think is
a perfectly reasonable point in view. The opposition was a
(30:02):
woman who was saying, they haven't accomplished anything. They're getting
the very basics of education. They're kids, they've got several
more years of mandatory schooling. They haven't accomplished anything. They
barely gotten started. Quit with the ceremonies. Too many ceremonies.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I lean more towards that point of view.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
But anything that would less than the number of ceremonies
I have to go to, I'm in favor of.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yes, my mom has a picture of my Is it
my kindergarten graduation or my preschool graduation? I don't remember it.
I'm wearing a robe. I know she had to buy
a robe. Yeah, I'm wearing a little green graduation cap
and robe. And they took pictures that she obviously paid
for because we have it.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So I'm thinking, you've got money sucked out of that. Oh, yeah,
we did. We had to do kindergarten graduation and there
was like a certificate and stuff. But I don't think
there was no robe involved.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
But you know, I hate to blame the gals for this,
but it reminds me of little seven year old kids
in full uniform playing Little League and they have opening
ceremonies and closing ceremonies every season, and the parade of
the teams and lots of pictures in.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
The rest of it.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Back in the day, you just went and played ball.
There's no opening ceremony. What the hell do you have
an opening ceremony? First game of the year is on Saturday,
go play it. That was the opening ceremony, play ball.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
So my eighth grader has the graduation is actually on Thursday,
and you're supposed to wear a tie. So we have
to go out and get a tie at some point
this week. He's gonna wear my shirt and my pants
because we're the same size. Oh, and it's gonna be hot. Uh,
he can't wear my shoes because he has bigger feet
than me. But so I have to get him some
dress shoes and a tie, and it is gonna be hot.
But the night before there's a big dance, the very
(31:42):
first dance of his life. Oh boy, And he said
the other day, I share hope there's chairs because I
planned to sit.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
It's so funny the difference between guys and gals with
this one, Like I was so excited and you.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Want to chair? Yes, yeah, I know, I know that
that's true. I'm sure the girls are very very excited.
I was gonna talk I haven't talked to him about that.
I hint it a but I was gonna talk to
him specifically about and I haven't completely crafted it. Into
my head yet, and it probably won't do any good anyway,
because it's different when you're fourteen than when you're older
(32:21):
and looking back on being fourteen, but man, oh man,
oh man, there's so many things that I chickened out
of or kind of wish I had done or whatever.
You only live once. You only freaking live once. That
girl over there, you kind of like, go ask her
to dance? Good God, I gotta figure out how I
want to present it. Not like that, but I mean,
(32:43):
looking at talking to my eighth grade me, I mean,
just life is short. Yeah, one go round.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, here's here's what you gotta do. Maybe I'll offer
this service.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I'll come over with half a dozen middle school young ladies,
have your boy ask each one of them to dance.
Each one of them will say thanks, but no, I'm
not interested. And by the end of maybe we'll even
do two rounds. By the end of it, the kid'll
be like, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Whatever. Oh they just get used to get down. It
used to be rejected a couple of times o all.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Or they might be completely demoralized. But uh no, maybe
you have that thirteenth one say yeah, I'd love to.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Did you ask somebody to dance.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Michael, Yeah, I think I did. I usually got rejected,
so it's okay.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I didn't ask anybody to dance. Somebody asked me to
dance for the last slow dance of the night, and
I've never been more nervous in my life. I can
still feel the sweat running down my armpits as we
were slow dancing. I was so nervous and scared. But
why wouldn't you? I mean, and I kind of wanted
to dance, but I was scared at one of being
rejected and two of dancing in front of other people.
(33:51):
It's just God, when you get older, it just seems like,
why would you freaking care? But that's just the perspective
of age. You can't you know, you can't inject that
into well.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, and dances are so small in our lives now.
It's such a big thing to them, right.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Well, yeah, of course it is. And I'm you know,
so on one hand, I don't know about his friends,
but it's probably true for his friends too. On one hand,
he's I hope they have chairs there. I might bring
my own camping chair just so I make sure. But
he has h We got a haircut, two weeks ago,
and he wasn't quite happy with that, so we went
and got another haircut, and uh, you know, he's been
picking out his clothes. So I mean, you wouldn't get
(34:26):
two haircuts and pick out your clothes and all this
sort of stuff if you didn't care at all. So
you care, but you just don't want to look like
you care, because I'm sure none of your friends are
looking like they care. As the boys again, as the
girls you get, you can be as thrilled as you
want to be. Lots of exclamation points.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
If your.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yeah, I played the records at the dances i'd do
in middle school. I volunteered for that. I think it's
one of the reasons I became a musician. If I'm playing,
you can't ask me to dance. I'm busy.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
All the high school dances, I was the DJ, which
kind of got me out of it. I got to
be there, but I had a job. Yeah, but uh yeah,
so I don't know. I'm gonna try to craft some
sort of go for it type speech, see how it lands.
I can just think of several examples of like why
why didn't you, Why didn't you do this? Why didn't
you do that. There's no downside. The worst case scenario
(35:19):
is nothing the well, actually a worst case scenario is
not doing anything and then wishing the rest of your
life you would have tried.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
So yeah, her hair.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
So that said, he bought a fake rolex off of Amazon.
He totally cares.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
He totally cares. Cool to not care, but yeah, he cares.
He bought this fake rolex. It's forty dollars and it's
so shockingly great. I mean it's really really good. It's
like really.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Heavy and nice and yeah, very cool.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I think you may be admitting to a federal offense
harboring a known importer of.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Repo our feet good, got it off Amazon.
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Katie. The why do you look so surprised? Katie is
a joke about her new eyebrow tattoos, which she mentioned
during the show. So, I don't know anything about eyebrow tattoos.
You're going to get them today? Is this a common thing?
Why do you do it? What does it cost? I
need all the ins and outs.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
It is relatively common. There's a few different ways you
can have it done. You can have them tattooed. There's
something called micro blading, which is similar to tattooing.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And so I'm doing the tattooing today. So you mentioned
that one of the reasons you want to do it
is so you don't have to tattoo yourself every day
before you come to work. Those those eyebrows I'm looking
at right now aren't real.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
They they're I mean, I have eyebrows, but I need
to fill them in regularly and they they don't line
up properly, and it drives me nuts. So yeah, I
draw them on every day at three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
They don't line up properly.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
No, they don't. One like starts farther back than the
other and it just dies. I'm so sick of it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You're a monster. I can hardly look at you. Uh huh, wow.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Bridge troll. But iyebrows. Eyebrows are hair, So isn't it
gonna look like Groucho Marx's mustache.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
No, so they they do the tattooing and microblading in
hair strokes, so it's it's a very fine needle and
they go in and they actually make it look like hair,
so it'll look somewhat natural. But the healing process is
going to be hilarious.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So are you to be wearing like big Yoko Ono
sunglasses tomorrow or what?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I was debating a hat?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
But I'm not too sure how close I can get to,
so I might just have to let you guys stare
at them.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Look at your open wounds. Yeah, losing open wounds above
your eyes.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I'm so excited about this. I know it's it's probably
sounds insane to you guys. But the process of drawing
them on and messing them up and having to go
back and redo them, it's just at thirty five, I
don't know how to draw my eyebrows on.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
So this is going to be a huge timesaver. Yeah,
well do where do you get that? Will they move
with your face like you you can look surprised her
moss on her skin your nine.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
No, they're like floating, so they stay while the rest
of my face is animated.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's like a filter on Google mets ah See. I've
never been a party girl, so all of this is
to me like, you know, like a tribe in the
Amazon that's had no contact with.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The modern world. Your ways are foreign to me.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well not probably, you guys would have no. No, you
guys both have great eyebrows. Well I'm I am someone.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Who's started mediocre at best, started.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Dyeing his goatee now and then, so I understand the
need to uh do something to your face. What is
this going to cost you? It's five hundred dollars? WHOA,
But it's permanent. Mm hm, it's permanent, which I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
If you think about it, if you get a tattoo
like a really good one. You're getting up in that range, especially,
you know, and this is the permanent makeup. So, I mean,
people get their their eyeliner done, which I can't do.
People get their lipliner. My mom did her eyeliner and
her lip liner. I have no idea how she let
a needle that close to her eyeball.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I know some people that have done those, and I
don't dig it. So maybe there's probably, like everything else,
there's getting a really good version of it done and
not as good version depending on price. I don't know,
but I've known some people that did the permanent eyeliner thing,
and you just you look a little like a raccoon. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Uh depend you can always add more. You can't go full.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I'm Courtney Love at a nightclub to start, I think, right,
but I am.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Taking a risk because I mean, I'm praying to all
that is holy that it doesn't get done, and I
hate it.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
The eyebrow makes more sense to me than the eyes
or the lips.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Actually, oh yeah, unless some sort of shaven headed look
becomes super hot in the future.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, women shave their eyebrows, shave their heads.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Just the you don't notice what eyebrows do for your
look until you don't have them. When I was doing
chemotherapy and I lost all my hair and my eyebrows
went away, it's it makes you look weird.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, and people are shaving them off right now as
like a trend. Yeah, there's a girl I follow on
Instagram who shaves her eyebrows off only to draw them
back on every day because she doesn't like how they're placed.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh so she wants me in a different place. This
is real life, guys. Do we know why human beings
have eyebrows?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I think it's just part of the whole keeping stuff
out of your eyes, you know, multiple layers of protection.
I think it may be partly just to catch stuff
that would fall in your eyes, and partly for sensory reasons.
Because where you have hair, anything that touches it, even
though it hasn't got your actual skin yet, you become aware.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Of animals kind of have eyebrows. You can feel them,
like on a dog or whatever.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
The Google is telling me that eyebrows help protect our
eyes from bright light.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Couple advisors, you gotta have a pretty heavy brow for
that to work.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Damn cave many quick question, Katie, so if you do
not like these, is there a way to get them
removed at all?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Or is it permanent? No matter what?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Well, I mean there's a there's tattoo removal. But no,
I'm pretty much screwed if I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Like Do you have to use a color? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So, and the woman who does this is fantastic. I've
seen a lot of her work, so I'm very excited
about this. But she's gonna go in look at the
color of my natural hair and do all of that
stuff that I don't know how to do and line
them up and.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well I wouldn't normally ask this, but is that your
natural hair color that we see every day?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I'm like a dirtyish blonde. Oh okay, So a
lot of women have to spend a lot of money
to get their hair the color your hair is naturally,
that's handy. Yeah, okay. Then you get your eyebrows to match.
I got it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And if you hate the look, you can just start
wearing a sweatband a headband like John McEnroe in the
nineteen seventies, which is my third count third out of
date cultural reference this podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Thanks for coming.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So now we are in the uncomfortable position, since we
know you're getting this done, that we have to tomorrow
say oh it looks great.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
No you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I don't want that. If it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Work, I need to know, so oh please not gonna
be me.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Besides, you know, a couple of my kids have a
handful of tattoos, and so I know it takes a
while before it looks good. There's the whole healing process.
Although with that microfid needle you're talking about, it might
be different. So I'm expecting you to look like a
boxer who had a rough night.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
They said that there can be bruising and that it
takes about ten days for it to look how it's
going to look. So this is going to be a
journey we're taking together.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
This is going to have to have a card to
hand out. No, there's no domestic violence, right, no kidding?
Have they told you is this going to hurt more
than a regular tattoo.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I've been told it's painless.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Apparently she puts this lytacane cream over them and then
let's it sit for a while and does it mind.
My mom had it done and said that she didn't
feel a thing, So I don't know if that's my
sweet mother trying to comfort me, or if it actually
is painless.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Are you a piercings person? Yeah, I have tattoos and piercings.
Oh okay, so this is not unfamiliar to you this
sort of time.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'm thinking of getting a hairline tattooed, like in roughly
the color of my hair as it is now, kind
of salt and pepper, but like the Eddie Munster, the
low like almost chimp like hairline.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'm going to give you a hard no on that, Joe,
don't do that. Could I get my bald head like
tattooed to make it look like there's hair?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
That is a thing that people are doing. Yes, Oh,
I've seen that. There is actually a business that just
opened up in my old hometown that specializes in that procedure,
where guys are going in and having little black or
whatever dots done all over their head to make it
look like just a little bit of hair growth, like
im like a shadow.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, I might do that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That is doable. I could see doing that. Do that
dire dire goatee?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, just knowing you, you'll like read the first paragraph
of an article about it, then try to do it yourself.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Probly send the money. I'll lend you the money.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, what color hair?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Jack?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Would you? Would you be a redhead?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Or would you.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Ooh, I don't remember what color my hair was. You
can get the pattern. You can just get a stripe
down the middle so it looks like a little mohawk. Well, okay,
well we look forward to seeing how this turns out tomorrow.
Maybe we'll post pictures at the website. And that's why
not let people comment. That's always a good idea. You
could take a poll. Do these look like?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
This is the Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our podcast
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Speaker 1 (09:36):
This author, Abigail Schreyer, who's written a bunch of different things,
got a lot of attention. But anyway, this particular aspect,
given my dislike of most therapy and my experiences with
therapy both for me and my family and my kids,
and the many thousands of dollars spent and how little
good it did, if not more harm, I thought was
(09:58):
really really interesting. So this is from the Joe Rogan
podcast with an author who has written a book about
this sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
I mean, it's the number one symptom of depression is
what they call rumination, this pathological obsessing.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Over your pain.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
Yeah, that's why stuff like exercise. That's one of the
reasons aside from chemical reasons. One of the reasons that
doing it. You know that running errands is good for
your mental health. Getting out of your house and accomplishing anything, yeah,
is good for you. But sitting around talking and thinking
about your problems, that's a bad habit. And the best
cognitive behavioral therapists and others, you know, the dialectical behavioral therapist,
(10:34):
the ones who do really well with depression, the first
thing they do is try to break that on that
bad pattern. But a lot of therapists just indulge it. Yes,
a lot is in practically all of them. What you
do every week is go in and restate your miserable situation,
whatever it is, and talk about it some more, and
(10:55):
then give them a bunch of money and come back
next week and ruminate on it some more. Sometimes for
years at a time.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, I was clicking around about this book and other
things and having to come across a piece in the
National Review which talks about this book bad Therapy, why
kids aren't growing up with Jonathan Height's brilliant new book,
The Anxious Generation, how the great rewiring childhood is causing
an epidemic of mental illness and.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It's all of a piece.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's all just the constant focus on your own mental health.
It sounds revolutionary to say in the modern world, but.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Just just get stuff done you'll be thatppier.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yes, Ketty, Well, no knock on on therapy, But I'm
thinking about I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Happy to knock on therapy all day long.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Well, I and I am too. I went through it
and it's just not it's not for me.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
There's good therapy helps lots of people. I know people
have been helped, but most of it's crap and a
waste of money.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
But I'm thinking about what she said there, and the
people that I know that are actively going to therapy
weekly are my friends that talk the most about their
problems all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And I wonder if.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
There's like a can if it carries over, like you
open that threshold you just now you just talk about them.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
What's interesting is like the knock on American culture back
in the day was nobody talked about their problems and
kept them inside. And that was supposedly awful, unhealthy. Maybe
it was maybe we just got it wrong with the
pendulum swinging too far the other direction, or maybe that
was the way people are kind of designed to deal
(12:25):
with them. You just try to put them out of
your mind and move on. I don't know, but the
focusing on it and talking about it all the time
doesn't seem to be working for people.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's a great industry, yes, and sells a hell of
a lot of pills. If I wish I had one
one thousandths of a share of all the money that
has been made on questionable psychiatric pills.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's one of the uh.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
One of the failures of capitalism, I think, is the
nexus between private equity industry and medicine. It's really perverted
the doctor patient relationship in a lot of unhealthy ways.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But the talking therapy. You go in and so you
had a bad mom who treated you poorly, and you
go in and you talk about that every week for
decades in some cases. Yeah, and know lots of people
that have done that, And I just, why is it
ever going to change?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I just I don't have.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
All I have is my own experience and that of
some people I've known very well who've dealt with similar things.
But number one, I'll tell you from my experience, depression
is entirely inward facing. If you can outward face and
interact and accomplish things and look at other people and
their needs and their challenges and their pain, that is
the best cure for depression in the world.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Getting out of your own head.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And the second thing that just occurred to me, And
this is an oversimplification, but you know, like I'm always saying,
the two things human beings do is underthink and overthink.
And I think that this may be one of those
overthinking things in that you remember, we've talked about what
you do, that's your priorities, how you spend your time,
(14:08):
those are your priorities. I don't want you know any
blah blah blah no. What's really important to me is
blah blah blah No. The way you spend your time
and attention is what's important to you. And if you
spend all of your time and attention on your problems,
that is the that's the occupation of your life. And
I've got to believe that all of us have an identity.
(14:30):
I'm the whatever guy, I'm the athlete, I'm the good
looking woman, I'm the go go achiever here at the
car Lota or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I'm the ness, surly, bald guy with RBF right exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
But if your identity becomes I'm the depressed, anxious person.
Everybody knows that about me. They're sympathetic towards me. I'm
taking a pill, babbah. If that becomes your image, you
can't let your image go. You can't abandon yourself image.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, that's a tough one, and I've known that. I
got to make sure that doesn't happen with a with
my son, that just he gets so locked into that
identity of his various problems. I've known people whose identity
was I was sexually abused, and that was it fit
into everything of the worldview. I don't know. There's the
Bromide axiom rule, whatever it is. Focus on your problems
(15:20):
and the problems grow. Focus on the solution, and the
solution grows. I've found that to be pretty damn true. Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So a quick excerpt from the books, Shriyer notes is
helpful to remember that your feelings are at the center
of everything all the time.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Thing is new.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It was not always Thus, she recalls two pieces of
advice that parents of gen xers and of earlier generations
would prefer to their children, knock it off and shake
it off.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
The first didn't over explain, it credited.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Kids with a common sense, or nudged them to develop rules,
had exceptions and workarounds. But knock it off single to
parent's disinclination to become entangled in them, and shake it
off didn't solve the worst injuries, but it did a
hell of a job playing triage nurse to kids minor
heartaches and injuries, proving to kids that the hurt or
fear or possibility of failure need not overwhelm them. I
(16:12):
like that, Hey, knock it off, You'll be fine. As
a method of triage, if the kid made it clear,
infinitely clear, like convincingly clear, No I'm not okay, Well,
that's when you offer the treatment.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
But if in the huge.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Majority of times the kid and then they're playing thirty
seconds later, that's brilliant triage. What a great way to
put that, you know part of it, I think, and
you know me, I believe that balance in all things.
We need men and women, compassion and order, and it's
got to be in the right mix. I just think
we've become so feminized as a society. The doting mom
(16:51):
who falls to her knees as the kid is skinned
his knee.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
You, oh my honey, bee my ow own. It's okay.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Oh that's become like eighty percent of American life.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And the dad says, that'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Or splash a little.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Water on it, go play, you'll be great. That is
now so completely out of fashion. We're making our kids nuts.
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Speaker 1 (17:59):
So you said love in Bloom or crazy Stalker psycho biatch?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yes, exactly, Okay, but that question will be decided by
the love panel.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's always the problem with that is just it's it's
it's it's whether or not the other person is interested
in you. All love like chasing someone's stuff is it's
just so romantic and well received if the other person's interested,
if they're not.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
And he never gave up, and now we've been married
for fifty years, right beautiful.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And I said no five times and I came out aside,
and he was waiting by my car with a rose.
If you kind of like the guy, that's just awesome.
If you don't like the guy, you call the police
and get a restraining order and maybe pepper spray him.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
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but this is a gal on a mission. Love and
Bloom are crazy. Stalker psycho Biat, let's find out. Thirteen Michael.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
I saw this really cute guy at the grocery store
the other day, so naturally I followed him to the
checkout counter, and when he gave the cashier his credit card,
I peeped it to see what his name was, and
then I googled him and found his social media profiles,
and I was able.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
To tell that he was single.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So I went through his friend's list, and.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
I found his mother's page and then I looked through
his mother's page and I saw that she was a
member of this book club that's in my area. So
I went to the book club meeting and I met
his mom there, and she just thought I was so nice,
and I brought it up randomly in conversation that I
was single, and she let me know that she had
a son that was single also that lived in the area.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And maybe it would be cool for us to get together.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
In chat sometime.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
So I gave her my number, which she gave to
her son, and this morning he texted me and asked
if I'd like to get together this weekend and do something.
So I guess we're going to go on a date.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I wait until he sees this video and goes, oh
my god, who did I go on a date with?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Wow, that's a pretty successful effort she made there. I
don't know how it's gonna turn out. That's insane.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Well, we have a little update for you. That young
man is now dissolving in a lad as that psycho
decided he wasn't worthy of living him. She is now
wearing his skin as a garment and his fingerbones as
a necklace.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Follow up segment, All right, all right, so.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Dude run from her. God, she actually went to the
book club meeting and got to know his mom.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh wow, because he's a cute guy. I mean, look,
let's all recognize, I can see a dozen attractive women.
There will be one that'll like make my brain explode
for what ever? A genetic anthropology, anthropological who knows why
it happens. Reason, doctor Freud had his own opinions, whatever,
(21:08):
And maybe it was one of those. Maybe it was
one of those. She saw him and just her jaw dropped.
It was like, oh my god, for whatever reason. Now,
certainly concocting some sort of can you help me out
to the car with this or that would have been
a hell of a lot more normal than the whole
(21:28):
Sherlock Holmes routine. How troubled are we by the detective
job and the roots she took.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Man, the the going to the book club and meeting
mom and getting to know her. That is that is
a that's a different level.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
That really feels to me like something that ends up
with somebody's cat getting murdered.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So, Katie, you're more up on the modern world of
how this is handling, how do we feel about just
like noticing the name on the credit card and doing
a little research on online, so that see, I think
that it was.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
It got weird the second she looked at his credit
credit card.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
To get his name.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I like Joe's idea, just hey, could you help me
to the car with this, or like a regular approach.
But I would be lying if I said that I
hadn't met a guy and he had given me his
name and I went.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Home and looked him up.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I've done that before, but not you know, to the
extent to go meet his mom at a book club
and then wear his skin later.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's weird.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Michael thoughts, Yeah, pretty psycho, I wouldn't. I'm like Katie.
I mean, maybe you look him up online, do a
little background check, but that's it.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Well, here's a little he gives you his name, you
don't look at his credit card to like kind of
I don't this.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
She sounds like a serial killer to me. Well, there's
a little surprise. We're gonna talk to him a live now.
He's chained to the radiator in her basement.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Help me, somebody helped me.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
The second part of the story, he goes missing and
she's helping his mom look for him at that point.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
That's how these horror movies go.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
She's up posters. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I've only become aware recently, and for reasons I won't
get into about how all you need is somebody. If
you have somebody's phone number, for instance, you can find
out everything and it costs you like a buck online,
and you got every place they've ever lived, every phone
they've ever had, all their friends, family members. Yeah, it's
(23:24):
it's horrifying. I mean, it's less worrisome as a dude,
but man, if I'm a young woman knowing that any
guy who gets a hold of my phone number at
all now knows where I live and where my friends
live and where I work and and everything, it's just, yeah,
it's just different world for that sort of thing. Of course.
(23:47):
On the other hand, buddy of mine pointing this out
to me their date and remember when we were younger,
all of our names were in the phone book with
our address, all of us, all of us. If you
knew somebody's name, you could look up their address. And
it's not like everybody got abducted every day, right, everybody's
name was in the phone book with their address. Did
the unlisted thing come later.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Is that no unlisted existed.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
But I never knew a girl that was unlisted. Every
girl she was writing the phone book.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, yeah, real rarity.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Getting back to the whole meeting mom book class book
club happened to randomly mention I was single and but
subterfuge that just that, that is a willingness to be
sneaky and duplicitous.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That isn't her first rodeo, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yes, yes, I think we're a little bit into the
the modern attitude where everybody's so paranoid of what would
you rather run into a bear or a man in
the woods for a woman? I mean, just you saying?
Was that before unlisted was available, like you wouldn't want
your name listed in the phone everybody had their address
the name in the phone book, and everybody was fine
(24:58):
with it, and everybody wasn't paranoid thinking, oh my god,
that's dangerous a guy could look up my address. It
worked out. I mean, so is culture that much worse
or are we just way more paranoid than we Well?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I would point out that if I had the hots
for Jenny Smith, or even unless her name was true,
her last name was truly rare and distinctive. There'd be
eleven of them in the phone book. I couldn't tell
which one. That was my experience at all, because I
lived in small towns. Everybody everybody's name. There was only
one Jenny Smith in every town. Everybody's address was right there.
(25:33):
And I don't remember anybody abusing it, or anybody even
talking about it being abused.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
No, nope.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
So what changed our parent of the reality of stalkers
or our paranoia.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Both? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
People aren't brave anymore.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
They don't want to just go and ask something, ask
some one out right in person, you know, just hey,
would you like to go out?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Would you like to get some coffee?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
That's like skills take developing, though, and we're not letting
our kids develop those social skills. I had chatted up
so many girls by the time I started college. Just
the idea of oh my god, I can't I can't
say hello to or it was just foreign to me.
It was not like I was some sort of bold
master gamesman or anything.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It was just so familiar to me. You know, hey,
how you doing well? Please?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Phones and internet have completely smashed that skill.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I think you know, this is a weird grab, but
it popped in my head for some reason.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I can't remember why.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
The other day I was thinking about the old like
the first Bob Seeger song with the what was the
name of his band, Bob Seger and the silber bulibin.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
No.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
No, that was before he was a solo artist, when
he was a Detroit rocker, but a rambling gambling man.
The line is ain't good looking, but you know, I
ain't shy, ain't afraid to look a girl in the eye.
And he I've always kind of liked that line because
he was a regular guy. But b We've got a
(27:07):
couple of generations who are terrified to look a girl
in the eye and say, hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So that getsack.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You think if she she found him alluring enough to
go through all that work, she should have made her
move right then.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, she's equipped with the tools to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Of course, if you're an all attractive young woman, all
you have to say is.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So I see you like cereal.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
That's good enough icebreaker.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Right there, exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Have a real.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Issue with her going on a date with him after
having done all of this and acting like it didn't
go down like that.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh yeah, well yeah, like, oh, we just so happened
to meet. I met your mom at book club.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Like the whole the start of whatever relationship this might
be is gonna be bs anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, that's that's a decent point there. You can't start
with a lie and then go from there.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah, this ends with a dead cat.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Trust Yeah, if you if you uh yeah, if you're
out with somebody and everything like that, and then she mentions, yeah,
I was talking to your mom. Wait a second, and
you know my mom? Why do you know my mom?
This is weird.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Okay, well let me tell you how this went down.
So I saw your credit card at the store. I'd
enjoy the book club that your mom is in. You're
twenty three year old woman. You're in a book club
with a bunch of sixty four year olds.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Why I like to read?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Pretending you want to read the Bridges of Madison County
so you can get to meet this old woman that
is going too far?
Speaker 8 (28:41):
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Speaker 1 (29:00):
My son who's fourteen and graduating from eighth grade this
week graduating, so he actually asked, why do they have
eighth grade graduation? Well, I don't know the real answer,
but where I grew up, I thought it was because
a lot of people stopped going to school at eighth grade.
(29:23):
There was a good chunk of the class that were
a particular religion, the Mennonites. They stopped at eighth grade.
So I thought that's why we had eighth grade graduation
because they were done. But then found out they have
eighth grade graduations other places, So why does eighth grade
graduation exist?
Speaker 8 (29:38):
You know?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I actually heard a.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Really interesting argument about this once, where the one point
of view was, hey, they've finished a level of school.
Let's say let's show them, Hey, education is important. We're
proud of you, a good job. Let's reinforce wanting to
stay in school and pass everything, which I think is
a perfectly reasonable point in view. The opposition was a
(30:02):
woman who was saying, they haven't accomplished anything. They're getting
the very basics of education. They're kids, they've got several
more years of mandatory schooling. They haven't accomplished anything. They
barely gotten started. Quit with the ceremonies. Too many ceremonies.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I lean more towards that point of view.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
But anything that would less than the number of ceremonies
I have to go to, I'm in favor of.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yes, my mom has a picture of my Is it
my kindergarten graduation or my preschool graduation? I don't remember it.
I'm wearing a robe. I know she had to buy
a robe. Yeah, I'm wearing a little green graduation cap
and robe. And they took pictures that she obviously paid
for because we have it.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So I'm thinking, you've got money sucked out of that. Oh, yeah,
we did. We had to do kindergarten graduation and there
was like a certificate and stuff. But I don't think
there was no robe involved.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
But you know, I hate to blame the gals for this,
but it reminds me of little seven year old kids
in full uniform playing Little League and they have opening
ceremonies and closing ceremonies every season, and the parade of
the teams and lots of pictures in.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
The rest of it.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Back in the day, you just went and played ball.
There's no opening ceremony. What the hell do you have
an opening ceremony? First game of the year is on Saturday,
go play it. That was the opening ceremony, play ball.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
So my eighth grader has the graduation is actually on Thursday,
and you're supposed to wear a tie. So we have
to go out and get a tie at some point
this week. He's gonna wear my shirt and my pants
because we're the same size. Oh, and it's gonna be hot. Uh,
he can't wear my shoes because he has bigger feet
than me. But so I have to get him some
dress shoes and a tie, and it is gonna be hot.
But the night before there's a big dance, the very
(31:42):
first dance of his life. Oh boy, And he said
the other day, I share hope there's chairs because I
planned to sit.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
It's so funny the difference between guys and gals with
this one, Like I was so excited and you.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Want to chair? Yes, yeah, I know, I know that
that's true. I'm sure the girls are very very excited.
I was gonna talk I haven't talked to him about that.
I hint it a but I was gonna talk to
him specifically about and I haven't completely crafted it. Into
my head yet, and it probably won't do any good anyway,
because it's different when you're fourteen than when you're older
(32:21):
and looking back on being fourteen, but man, oh man,
oh man, there's so many things that I chickened out
of or kind of wish I had done or whatever.
You only live once. You only freaking live once. That
girl over there, you kind of like, go ask her
to dance? Good God, I gotta figure out how I
want to present it. Not like that, but I mean,
(32:43):
looking at talking to my eighth grade me, I mean,
just life is short. Yeah, one go round.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, here's here's what you gotta do. Maybe I'll offer
this service.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I'll come over with half a dozen middle school young ladies,
have your boy ask each one of them to dance.
Each one of them will say thanks, but no, I'm
not interested. And by the end of maybe we'll even
do two rounds. By the end of it, the kid'll
be like, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Whatever. Oh they just get used to get down. It
used to be rejected a couple of times o all.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Or they might be completely demoralized. But uh no, maybe
you have that thirteenth one say yeah, I'd love to.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Did you ask somebody to dance.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Michael, Yeah, I think I did. I usually got rejected,
so it's okay.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I didn't ask anybody to dance. Somebody asked me to
dance for the last slow dance of the night, and
I've never been more nervous in my life. I can
still feel the sweat running down my armpits as we
were slow dancing. I was so nervous and scared. But
why wouldn't you? I mean, and I kind of wanted
to dance, but I was scared at one of being
rejected and two of dancing in front of other people.
(33:51):
It's just God, when you get older, it just seems like,
why would you freaking care? But that's just the perspective
of age. You can't you know, you can't inject that
into well.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, and dances are so small in our lives now.
It's such a big thing to them, right.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Well, yeah, of course it is. And I'm you know,
so on one hand, I don't know about his friends,
but it's probably true for his friends too. On one hand,
he's I hope they have chairs there. I might bring
my own camping chair just so I make sure. But
he has h We got a haircut, two weeks ago,
and he wasn't quite happy with that, so we went
and got another haircut, and uh, you know, he's been
picking out his clothes. So I mean, you wouldn't get
(34:26):
two haircuts and pick out your clothes and all this
sort of stuff if you didn't care at all. So
you care, but you just don't want to look like
you care, because I'm sure none of your friends are
looking like they care. As the boys again, as the
girls you get, you can be as thrilled as you
want to be. Lots of exclamation points.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
If your.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yeah, I played the records at the dances i'd do
in middle school. I volunteered for that. I think it's
one of the reasons I became a musician. If I'm playing,
you can't ask me to dance. I'm busy.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
All the high school dances, I was the DJ, which
kind of got me out of it. I got to
be there, but I had a job. Yeah, but uh yeah,
so I don't know. I'm gonna try to craft some
sort of go for it type speech, see how it lands.
I can just think of several examples of like why
why didn't you, Why didn't you do this? Why didn't
you do that. There's no downside. The worst case scenario
(35:19):
is nothing the well, actually a worst case scenario is
not doing anything and then wishing the rest of your
life you would have tried.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
So yeah, her hair.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
So that said, he bought a fake rolex off of Amazon.
He totally cares.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
He totally cares. Cool to not care, but yeah, he cares.
He bought this fake rolex. It's forty dollars and it's
so shockingly great. I mean it's really really good. It's
like really.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Heavy and nice and yeah, very cool.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I think you may be admitting to a federal offense
harboring a known importer of.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Repo our feet good, got it off Amazon.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
The Armstrong and Getty Show or Morgoe podcasts and our
hot links and arm
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Wrong and Getty dot com
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