August 1, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Thursday August 1, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- Katie Katie the News Lady Questions
- Transition Music Shift to Serious--9/11 AF Pilot Retires
- Google Chess / Robot Teaching Chess
- Personality Hire
Stupid Should Hurt: https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Shoe, Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Armstrong and Jett Yty and He Armstrong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And this is the Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our
podcast one More Thing, get it wherever you like to
get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So back to the Katie, Katie the news lady. We
got a text with a couple of questions that I
don't think we've ever asked you before. I'll just scream
this way. Katie Green is a great addition to Armstrong
and Getty, a real pro. But I do have some questions. One,
how many push ups can she do? What the hell
you know?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I don't I don't know. I know that I've done.
I think it was twenty eight and thirty seconds. How recently,
like two months ago? Okay, that's pretty rough. I think
that number's probably gone out. Yeah, if it's fairly recently,
that's okay. I've never I don't like people tell me
how like? This always comes up with running.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Thousand and six. This always comes up with running with me?
And how long to take you to run the ten
k or whatever? I used to run a ten k
and whatever. Yeah, how long ago was that? When's the
last time you ran a ten k? And if you
haven't done it in fifteen years, I don't freaking care.
All right, what difference does it make? Do it now
nineteen seventy eight? By the way, as long as you
ask literally the last time you ran a ten k
(01:31):
that might have been seventy nine. I'm gonna do one
in the next year. That's what I'm building up to.
I'm gonna run a ten k in the next year.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I am one of those I need to get that
zero point zero sticker for my car because I have
never run a ten k and will never run a
ten k.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I've ever seen that. That's hilarious. Zero point zero in
the same font.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, that's perfect, and it says I don't run.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
If a bear chases me for ten kilometers, I will
do a ten k.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
There you go, turn to the bear and say how
long are we going to do this? Because if it's
going to be more than six point one miles, I
might I might just lay down.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Right, Why would I want you to eat me when
I'm tired? And you just get this no advantage to.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Either one of us. Cut to the chase, cut the
chase to the catch. So you've done that many push
ups fairly recently. That's a good chunk of push ups
right there.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I have not done a one since my back problem
started last summer, So I think I need to start
working my way back.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I haven't even tried it. I'm I'm three out of
the last five days, I think. So I'm on a
bit of a role here eating and exercising. Have you
ever been arrested? No, No, there was a there's a hesitation.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
No, there was a dumb situation when I was in.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Middle school that it resulted in me getting in a
lot of trouble momentarily before the truth came out.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But you weren't arrested.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
No, I have never been arrested.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So your hesitation wasn't should I say this out loud
on the air or not? Your hesitation was because I
went through.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
The most of the everything other than getting booked.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I went through the process up.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Some kid ripped the Mercedes emblem off of the vice
principal's car and stuck it in my backpack because I
had come from a Christian school and he was all
anti Jesus and God and all that.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Wow, and then told and then told the school.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And the best part was when the assistant principal came
and got me from class and she pulls me out
and she says, you know, I think you have something
of mine.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
And I'm like, oh no. She goes, you might be.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Wearing it around your neck, because all the kids were
like wearing the big fake car emblems around their chain.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I remember, yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
So I pulled out the Catholic, you know, the Celtic
cross that my mom had got me, and I'm like,
I'm clueless. At this point, she opens my backpack and
there was a Mercedes emblem in there.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Wow. So this kid went and said, Katie Green stole
the Mercedes emblem.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Said he saw me take it, and he did it
to another girl that transferred to the school from the
same school with me. So we both got pulled into
the office and we're talking to the cops and.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, and how long did it take you to straighten
the sound flavor flavor? How did you clean it? How
did you crew yourself?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
It took about I think I was in the office
for four and a half hours writing a statement and everything.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And then the whole time I'm going my.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Dad's a judge. Just call him.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
We'll clear this up, you know, because he was a
judge at the time.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
And yeah, it took a lot. It was traumatic.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Now, for some reason, this reminds me of one of
my more embarrassing stories before we get there, Katie, what
does it take to become a judge? Because Jack knows this,
I've been saying for years I ought to be a judge.
Do you know why?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Because I'm so judgmental. Yeah, I didn't want to say it.
I think I'd be really good at it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So did your dad get elected or was he an
appointed judge or.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
He was he was appointed by Duke Majon.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh okay, a governor of yesteryear. Yes, okay. Was he
a TV judge? A TV judge on TV? Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
He could give Judge Judy a run for money.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Oh, I so want to be a TV judge anyway.
Jack has an embarrassing story, Gladys.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I was in high school. I believe I was a
sophomore in the band. And this is embarrassing for odd reasons.
So the trumpet section had decided that during this rest
a rest if you don't know music is silence, or
you'd stop playing but in this case it was actually
silence during the song. During the rest, all the trumpet
(05:37):
players were gonna, I forget what if the noise was
even pretend to burp or something like that. So it's
I get about about about about about a bout about
about it. But everybody was going to do that, and
then and and I didn't, but all the other trumpet
players did. And the band teacher went back crazy, like
band teachers do over anything. Yes, yes, because they because
(06:01):
they hate life, they hate the fact that they're genius
musicians usually and other teaching a bunch of teenagers who
couldn't give a crap about music, and it makes them
so angry that they drink and yell at children. This
is when you sat them. Yes, he throw his keys
at people, this whole city keys or the baton. He
threw the baton at people, erasers, all kinds of stuff.
(06:22):
But anyway, he got so mad at people burping during
the rest, and he went one by one who did it?
Who did that? And then everybody's just kind of sitting there,
and some people were smirking or whatever, and he went one
by one and looked them in the eye and put
their finger right in their face. Did you make that
sound during the rest and most of them, most of
them fessed up and said yes, But it got to
me and I said no because I didn't so I had.
(06:45):
I was like. It was like a triple whammy of awful.
I don't think the band teacher believed me. The other
kids were like, what a puss because I didn't, And
then I was fine. I was feeling horrible for fever.
I'm thinking I was lying and that my peers thought
I was weak for not joining them at the completely
(07:05):
meaningless hijinks. But that's kind of person I was. I
didn't join the hijinks.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
And here we are, all these years later, and it's
still affecting me.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's still affecting me, not because it bothers me, because
I didn't. I'd feel better if I had.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, you may have been a trumpeter, but you've certainly
earned the sad trombone wam wah.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's exactly that's exactly right. I didn't join in the
meaningless nobody gets hurt teenage hijinks because I was too
straight laced. Isn't that incredible?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
And you still got yelled at for it?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And I still got in trouble for it because he
didn't believe me. I could tell he didn't believe me.
So are there any more questions for Katie?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I enjoying this. Have you ever been arrested? Uh? What's
the biggest celebrity you've ever met? Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I interviewed the cast of Jackass, So Johnny Knoxville and
all those guys, Okay, and Robin Williams.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's a big one. That's a really big one.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
He was really sweet at what point in his life
later Actually this.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Was in twenty eleven, so that's towards the end.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Then.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, he was at I was at a comedy show
and his daughter was performing and he was there to
watch his daughter.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's a cool Bay Area guy. So yeah, easier to
run into goes the purple onion. Do you get anything
out of meeting celebrities at this point in your life?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, I don't really. After you meet up there ahead,
everybody should get to have the experience of meeting enough
celebrities to realize it ain't nothing. Yeah, just it ain't nothing.
Used to fairly awkward.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Or like, I mean, you guys know this being in
a position where some people might look at you as one,
and you're right.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, yeah, exactly, not at all. Yeah, man, that's the
weird thing about celebrity. It's all in the other person's head.
It doesn't actually exist as a thing. It's and you
can't measure it or anything like that, right, right.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And while I actually ninety eight percent of the time
really enjoy meeting folks who say, hey, I recognize you,
I just want to say I like the show's because
people are very nice, and they often end up being
really nice people who I enjoy chatting with the greatest
experience or experience rather to illustrate what Jack's talking about
(09:19):
is And this has happened many many times, will meet
like a super avid listener who has a friend with
them who doesn't listen, or has never heard of us,
or was from a different part of the country or whatever.
You had one person about to go to pieces and
the other like, hey, how's it going. So, as some
people have observed, fame isn't something you have, it's something
(09:41):
they have.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
That's a great way to put it.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, don't still, it's so anybody who aspires to fame,
don't trust me when I say this.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
If you aspire to have a successful business.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I consider our quote unquote fame just to be like
an after effect of having a successful business. But the
idea that your self image will rise and fall based
on the number of people who think you're cool or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Now you don't don't get into that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
The Armstrong and Getty Show yea or Jah ORGHO podcasts
and our hot links.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It's the Armstrong and Getdy Show featuring our podcast one
more thing, download it, subscribe to it wherever you like
to get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So here's the serious thing I was going to do,
which feels weird now, but maybe I need transition music
in my mind. Have we ever used transmission transmission music?
This is when you shift from second to third gear,
transition music from silly to serious. Can we do that? Michael? Yeah,
I think this will work. Actually both ways here, Okay,
(10:52):
you know you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
We used to have different silly to serious music than
our serious to silly music.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
This is a song is this doesn't work? This is
a song. Sam is going to be dancing too. You're
a great. In the fifties when the twist was popular,
anybody can twist awesome. When there were dances, the monkey
to swim, anything that you just like you knew what
you're supposed to do with their hands, and it was
crossy simple. Yeah, I'm not doing a good job of
(11:19):
transitioning to something serious. This Air Force pilot retired over
the weekend who was involved in nine to eleven. And
I had never heard this story, or I had, and
I forgot it because I can hide my own Easter eggs. Anyway,
This Air Force F sixteen pilot retired over the weekend
after forty years in the Air Force. He his job
(11:40):
was to take out Flight ninety three, the last plane
that was still in the air on nine to eleven.
And I had never heard this story in completion. I
knew that we had scrambled fighter jets and that that
was a possibility. I didn't know this. He's sixty one
years old now. He was in his late thirties at
the time, and him and this other female pilot, Heather Penny,
(12:01):
who was twenty six at the time, were ordered to
go up. This is after you know, two planes that
at the World Trade Center. One it hit the Pentagon
and there was another plane in the air and we
figured it out and this had all occurred in like seconds,
And this was all happening really really fast, and they
were scrambled and told to go up and what was
the actual phrase, stop it? Their orders were to locate
(12:23):
flight ninety three and stop it. That's all they were told.
So him and this other woman went up, and he
was the guy in charge, and he went up because
he didn't want to ask anybody else to do this,
because he had an idea of how awful this would be.
Oh wow. They decided him and this woman that if required,
they would hit the hijack plane with their jets, making
it a suicide mission. They were Yeah, he said that
(12:47):
we couldn't figure out how to it first because our
fighter jets were not armed with missiles. Oh, we did
have any weapons. We were just we just went up
and were told to stop that plane. Oh my lord.
I so you hadn't heard this. So he and this
woman said they planned to ram the front of the
jetliner and he was going to hit it from the front.
(13:08):
She was going to hit it from the back at
the same time, flying at you know, six hundred miles
an hour, and that's what they were going to do.
But right before they were already in the air and
screaming toward the plane. Before it happened, they got word
that the plane had gone down. Because we all know,
the passengers took over the plane and it crashed into
(13:30):
the ground and they all died. This guy, the woman
was single and childless. But this dude's I should give
his name. I haven't given his name yet, have I.
He's a freaking hero, Mark Sassville. He had a wife
and two young children, ages three and five. At the time.
He said, it's a testament to those people that brought
down that plane that changed my life's family forever.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
He was going to die, wife and two young kids,
going Okay, this is what I have to do.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
He said. He didn't even think about it at the time.
He said, training just kicked in and it all happened
so fast. They were given the order to take down
the plane okay, and he talked to the woman, this
is what we'll do. We'll fly into the plane and
its just all I'm sure. It was happening very very fast. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, more toxic masculinity from him and her.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah. Wow, that's that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
How many people did those passengers on flight ninety three save.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It's a number that'll never be known. Well, were the
flight was believed to be headed for what the White House?
That guy's going to say. They're not certain still on
that yet. There were some beliefs that it was the
White House, some that it was the capital. But either
way it was going to be like the Capitol. Yeah, yeah,
either way it was going to be bad.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, it would be interested to know if he called
his wife prior to getting in that jet.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Oh, like what you would say.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
From reading just this short description of there was no
time for that. This was a this is what's happened.
There's still a flight in the air, like a run
to the plane, get in the air and just go
and go. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Wow, you read the nine to eleven report, It was
amazing how much confusion there was and trying to get
planes in the air to defend DC or whatever. There's
nobody even knew who to call to suddenly defend the homeland,
and so enormous amounts of time elapsed before they got
like a significant force up in the air.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah. Somehow, I just happened to see the video the
other day of George Bush reading the reading to those kids,
and the person came and whispered in his ear Mister President,
were under attack. I understand why he did this how
he did it, because he was in shock himself. You know.
He says he didn't want to like freak out the kids.
(15:43):
He should have stood up right there and just walked out.
The kids will be fine. The whole America's the whole
country is about to be freaked out. So yeah, waiting
another however many minutes it was before he did anything.
I don't know that was the best choice, but I
can understand. Yeah, that's a lot to comprehend in a
very you know, all of a sudden, sitting in front
of the press. He was sitting there because I just
(16:06):
for some reason. Oh, I was at some more recent
interview where he talks about it, because now he is
an old man. It's interesting to see the videos of
him now he's an old man, and he was such
a young man at the time. But he was talking
about how he was looking at the back of the
room and seeing all the press. They were all getting
the alerts, so he knew they knew. And that's a
(16:28):
lot to have ridle through your brain at one time.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I actually know a couple of people who know w
one a little bit, one very very well. He was
in the press office for HW, and then knew W
and his family too, and everybody who knows George W
really really likes him.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And this guy who worked for HW for a number.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Of years, he echoes the impression I'd always gotten. He
said he's one of the most honorable and decent people
he's ever known.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, well, lots of people say that, which is interesting.
What happened in terms of are choosing whether we choose
our candidates, not the way we choose our candidates, And
we don't have any requirements for decency or experience or
(17:25):
really anything mental capacity coherence. What do you do?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It's the Armstrong and Giddy Show featuring our podcast One
more Thing. Download it, subscribe to it wherever you like
to get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So I read this article in the Wall Street Journal.
The title was the Chess Master trying to propel Google's
AI push. They hired a new guy the Game of Chest.
They hired this genius at Google to try to make
or that they win the whole AI race. But what's
the guy arounds Google? Puchai? How do you say his name? Sundar?
(18:09):
I hadn't heard this quote. He thinks that the development
of AI will be more profound than the invention of
fire or electricity. If he's right about that, we better
hold on to our seats because holy crappings. I mean,
and this fits in with what I saw at the Sphere, so, uh,
(18:31):
the Sphere is all about super high tech stuff. Henry
my Son even asked me what's the theme here because
there's lots of math equations on the wall and lots
of planets, and I just I don't know if it
was just science or exploration or I don't know what
the theme was of the building because originally it was
a U two show for the first week, So why
(18:51):
are all these math equations on the to see bono?
But Nicole accomplishment In the lobby they had had this
AI chick, so it was a robot. It's like your
latest coolest robot that i'd seen videos of before and
like I said earlier, too hot. I don't know why
you got to make the robots saw it? I mean,
why she you know, make it look like a normal person.
But she's standing there and she's talking to the crowd.
(19:15):
She's on a little stage and she's talking to the
crowd and she would ask people questions. Uh, somebody asked
me a question and somebody'd say something. She'd say, what's
your name? Uh? And he would say Billy, Okay, Billy,
what would you like to ask me? Like your red shirt, Billy?
You know that sort of thing. Just conversing with this
AI computer, and it was disturbing. And it was one
(19:36):
of those that has the ability for the face to move,
so not just mouth opening and closing in like eyes,
but like the cheeks and the like expression yeah expressions,
that's the word. It had full facial expressions. And I
was disturbing, and it was hot, and he bought two
thousand and it was having conversations with these people and
no matter what you brought up it would they would
(19:58):
engage in it, or ask you about how your day was,
or tell you something. And I thought, this is clearly
going to be in a classroom someday. Why would you
have individual teachers teaching Hamlet every year when you got
this robot who knows more about Hamlet than any individual
human being has ever known, can do the same routine
(20:19):
every year every semester and answer questions. And it's hot.
That's all I need. But I mean, in terms of
taking over jobs, it was it was disturbing. Henry and
I especially couldn't stop watching it. We went back to
watch more after the Sphere show. It's like, this is
crazy that this is even happening.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well, yeah, I could see virtually every university class being
you got to, whether sexy or not, a robot teaching
the class, you know, giving the material, answering questions from
its vast, unending trove of knowledge on the topic. And
then if you still have a question as a student
or you need something larified, you just get on a chat,
(21:02):
a computer chat like you're trying to figure out why
you're whatever it doesn't work, And that'll be the university experience.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, I don't know what it wouldn't be able to answer,
especially in the near future. Keeping in mind that whatever
we saw on Friday, they've probably got better technology already
today as we record this on Tuesday, and five years
from now, it'll be that much better than that. So
why won't that be the person doing the sales presenttion
presentation over there in the boardroom in front of your salespeople,
And it can answer the questions of hey, but what
(21:30):
do I do if a you know, if a client
says this, well, this is what you do, because it
knows more than anybody.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Have you guys heard about the the Uncanny Valley with
with this AI and the robotics and whatnot. It's it's
a part of our brain that gets really uncomfortable when
you start getting into that area where it's kind of
a human but you know it's not a human.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Henry was having that problem. What's that called?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
It's called the uncanny Valley?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Wow, Henry was having me is the basis of so
many horror creatures in horror movies. You make it almost human.
It's disturbing to us. Yeah, Henry was having that and
he said, I'm this is gonna give me nightmares tonight.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, it's a cool genre of horror that's like blowing
up right now, especially because these robots are popping up
all over the place and kind of give people the ick.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
The facial expressions on this robot were the most disturbing part.
Is that it would answer, you know, a kid's question
or an adult's question or whatever, and just the facial
expressions like looking interested and then wow, that's interesting and
puzzled and just and not like cartoonishly interested or puzzled,
but like an actual human being. It was weird.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
So at the risk of seven, like a guy calling
some sort of sex line of the past.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
What was the hot bot wearing like a sex spot
like a unitard? Oh sort of thing. So it had
bare legs even though they were gray like the color
of carbon fiber. Was it bush? Not like not like
carrion gray, but like gray.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
There are many hues of humans around the world, and
we're all deserving of love, Josh, but gray is generally
reserved for the dead.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
She was shaved headed, but like really well built, attractive
woman and very pretty. And uh and obviously if you
want to go that direction, and it is Las Vegas,
they will have those with blonde hair or brown hair
or whatever hair color you prefer, doing whatever you want
to do over there. I'm sure it's at some point
(23:35):
they may already. They might already. Yeah, yeah, that's a
different level of where it's on.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
It's an extra you can tack onto your room.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
But having seen that and having Sondra Putai or whatever
his name is, say, this is going to be as
big as fire or electricity. Even if he's half right
with what I just saw, we have no we human
beings aren't ready for what's about to happen. True, I
believe that to be true. Yeah, there could be a
(24:07):
sharp turn unlike any other sharp turn, Yeah, right ahead
of us. Yeah, and I'm old enough that I'm gonna
catch it, you know, at the tail end of my
life and have to adjust. My kids are going to
grow up in a world that I can't even imagine. Now,
they can't imagine. I have no idea what's the best
way to prepare them for it. Neither does anybody else.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Meanwhile, he says, brainstorming his screenplay, the Third World is
going to send wave after wave of millions of armed
people to come and take it right because they're still
without as we the developed world will be basking in
the wealthy glow of the AI affluence that's.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Coming our way. I had one more question I want
to ask Katie, and this is just about the way
some people dress in Las Vegas. Women who are dressed
crazy like I'm a stripper outfit in Las Vegas. That
is what is going on there mostly.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Unfortunately, that's just like the Vegas club attire.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So that's just the vibe. If you're going to go
to a club.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, if you have a really short dress that you're
not too sure where you could ever wear it.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
You take it to Vegas, Okay, it's true.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It doesn't stand out as weird there, whereas it would
at the company Christmas party or certainly Easter Sunday services. Right,
but yeah, don't put on your whole were for Easter Sunday. Kidding.
But even if you went to a bar or something, yeah,
dressed like that, you'd stand out as what But there
are so many women dressed like that there, Like, how
(25:46):
do you even walk in those shoes? You're if you
you know, don't bend down to pick up your keys
or I'm gonna you know, my kids are gonna be
exposed to something. It's just I just wonder what was
I just? I think people enjoy escaping their workaday lives
and they get to be somebody different, cool, cool. Then
what happens there stays there? Is? It famously said it's
(26:07):
tough to walk through those casinos with a couple with
a twelve year old and a fourteen year old, though
that's just the two boys. It's like educational. If I
hadn't walked through there, I was just thinking about this,
if my dad had taken me through there, when I
was a fourteen year old boy. Holy crap, I had
never stopped thinking about it. I never saw stuff like
that in real life.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
At age fourteen, I had to run off and hidden
behind a slot machine and attempt to stay there permanently.
He'd still be there, exactly, go ooching around like Gollum
in the shadows.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm surprised. I'm surprised. At some point I didn't say,
where's Sam, and Henry says he's back there, and he
just locked up and locked up with his eyes wide
too much, too.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Much, Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Hey we're Armstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast One
more Thing. Find it wherever you find all your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I'd never run into the concept of a personality higher
before the Wall Street Journal was writing about this.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Have you ever heard this term, Katie, just out of
curiosity now as you are, I have not. Younger and hipper.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So as the journal describes it, if you get further
on charm than skill, and you carry a workload light
enough to float atop your bubbly demeanor, then you might
be a personality higher. And this has actually become a
thing charismatic, friendly, likable employees who might not be that
(27:40):
great at their job or even work that hard, but
employers are so desperate for any sort of joy and
camaraderie in the workplace they're hiring these people.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
They call them personality hires. Wow, so that's how I
got hired exactly your personality Me too, Michael. So I'm
thinking of somebody right now. I won't say their name.
They're out there in the newsroom. I could see hiring
them because of their personality, because they just make the
(28:10):
whole room better. Everybody's happier when they're around. I can tell,
just because of their personality. Well, here are a couple
of facts. In this case. They're also to competent. But
I would I would like I would have hired this
person if they were not quite as competent as person X,
just because their personality the kind of place that's gonna
(28:31):
make the place more lively and happy. Sure. Yeah, well
here they quote.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
They start off the article quoting this one gal who's
definitely not a personality higher. She's a very matter of
fact person, just gets cracked done. But she says, oh,
some people actually proudly advertise themselves as personal personality hires
on LinkedIn, by the.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Way interesting, So they quote this.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Gal who's not that and finds it very annoying and described.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Well, you you're like me. We kind of, we kind
of bitterly are resentful against people who are like that
because we're not, and they're allotizing it. Though that's what
I'm like.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I wouldn't want to advertise, Hey, I'm not very good
at my job, but I'm funny.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You leave that first part unsad, right, but she cites
she worked with a personal personality hire in a previous job.
Though fun to be around, the person eventually generated resentment,
didn't really pull her load, and after winning a promotion,
prompted several coworkers to quit. There's just too much. Well
I would, I would. I would think if they're not
good at their job, that's not enough to overcome it.
(29:34):
But I'd never thought about this before. I could see
hiring somebody, you know, if you're gonna weigh them on
a bunch of different things. Man lump in the hole
brings the room up as opposed to down, so bosses
want the warm and fuzzies.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Is the mood at work is generally sour. One third
of US employees say they're engaged in their jobs, only
a third near an all time low. Half of workers
say they feel a lot of stress, half are interested
in new jobs, are actively applying with so many lonely,
unhappy charges. Bosses are desperate for a good workplace energy.
They say camaraderie is hard to build on hybrid schedules,
(30:10):
so they prize upbeat employees whose energy is hopefully infectious.
Then they quote a bunch of people and recruiters from
various industries and saying, yeah, we really, we really need
more people.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Oh, it's clearly true. I haven't had a job I
don't like in a long long time. But when I
worked jobs that I didn't like, oh, there were certain
people that made it bearable, and when they weren't there,
it was awful. Right, Or if they quit, everybody who's like,
I can't do this, right, I.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Wonder if they're hiring these people to make it more
appealing to come back into the office too, Like after COVID.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's got to be a factor.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Sure, yeah, so but anyway, there's this comedian Gal who
has done a couple of bits about being a personality
higher that I think are brilliant and illustrating what it
is all about. Her name's Vienna Aila and it's fifteen Michael,
So what's the.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Project about today? I have no idea. Do you guys
think we need to get an extension?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:09):
We can't call Greg.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
He's so scary.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
So Greg is our CEO.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I'll call Greg, of course, are you sure?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, let's call Greg. Greg is so terrifying. Greggy, Hey you,
where are you? How are your kids? I didn't know that,
so I'm just doing this school direction Annie. She's playing Annie.
Oh that's so amazing.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Hold on one, said Greg.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I asked me presentation.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Yeah, Greg, you know, I'm that's in. You're talking Annie
with you all day.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
But Greg, I have to ask you something.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
We're gonna need a couple of days, Greg, take a week.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh yeah, especially next week. I don't want to come
to Nanny. Back to the important stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Where are you?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I'll come me through right now.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Let's freaking eat a fry ocean talk Annie.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
My guy.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Greg, I'm coming to you.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And then and there's another bit where they have the
permit revoked for an event at the last minute and
they're like, oh my god, the only way we could
deal with this is to have the mayor on our side.
She says, the mayor, the Mayor's in my ass and
abs class, I'll call her right now.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
She goes, hello, girl, what's going on? Oh my god,
you don't need that class. Your ass is amazing anyway,
and she gets the permit reinstated. The ass she's just
a schmoozer and a networker and that sort of super
uppy person doesn't but and it's harder to tell without
the visuals in that first video, but she doesn't know
(32:37):
anything about the project. Then she gets on the call
with Greggy and says, what am I asking for again
to our coworkers? An extension? Oh right, right right?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
She goes into that. So it's a parody obviously, But
that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I never I don't think enough attention is paid to
like chemistry in a group of people for work. I don't.
I don't think most bosses ever even think about it.
They should. And now in the modern world of boy that,
like they said the hybrid working in zoom, I'm not
sure any of that translates to zoom.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I meant to talk about this
on the show. Maybe I will, But I was talking
to my son, who's just about to turn thirty, and
he was talking about and he's he's been a performer
of various sorts for a very long time. He's a
musician and a gifted actor who decided not to act.
(33:31):
And that's fine, but he said, coming out of COVID,
the very thought of performing just seemed enormous and terrifying
and overwhelming. Just so, and it's worth mentioning he lived.
He lives in Oregon, which is so cultish in its
(33:52):
or was in its adherence to every COVID policy, and
as a show of hating Trump, they wouldn't let their
children play with other children for year year and a half.
And it's just devastating to so many people of so
many ages, even people in their twenties.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
It's horrible.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Anyway, speaking of people who have difficulty communicating and communing
and looking people in the eye and the rest of it,
Man COVID Deco Declan. My son said to me, he said,
I know a lot of people who are really damaged
by it, and they're not healing very quickly.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Was it just the act of having to go out
and perform again, or were there people that weren't going
to the shows. What made it so much more difficult
post COVID.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, because everything was so locked down.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
You just you had like your roommate, and you would
interact with maybe somebody at work if you were allowed
to work a little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
It was like living in solitary confinement in a prison.
Obviously not that bad, but I know a couple of
people who talk about that dark period where they didn't
have any communication, and they would you struggle to have
any opportunity just to like wave to another car far away.
All right. I didn't live that way, so I didn't.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I guarantee they lived in a blue state. There's a
prominent musician who I think is a wonderful songwriter, but
he tweeted at one point that he felt bad for
his kids because his kids hadn't had a plated or
hugged another child or whatever.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
For a year. I wanted to fly to Portlandia where
he resides, and punch him in the stomach and and just.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
To wake him up and say what are you doing?
And all the dad about children and being fine was
out there, all of it. But you had to virtue
signal how much you despised Trump by torturing yourself and
your loved ones, and and Declann lived in the midst
of that, and anyway, sorry to get started on that stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
It's all no, it's a reality a lot of people
are dealing with still.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And that's why his company needs a personality hire. Just
things up a little bit, full circle Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Shoe, Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Armstrong and Jett Yty and He Armstrong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And this is the Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our
podcast one More Thing, get it wherever you like to
get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So back to the Katie, Katie the news lady. We
got a text with a couple of questions that I
don't think we've ever asked you before. I'll just scream
this way. Katie Green is a great addition to Armstrong
and Getty, a real pro. But I do have some questions. One,
how many push ups can she do? What the hell
you know?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I don't I don't know. I know that I've done.
I think it was twenty eight and thirty seconds. How recently,
like two months ago? Okay, that's pretty rough. I think
that number's probably gone out. Yeah, if it's fairly recently,
that's okay. I've never I don't like people tell me
how like? This always comes up with running.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Thousand and six. This always comes up with running with me?
And how long to take you to run the ten
k or whatever? I used to run a ten k
and whatever. Yeah, how long ago was that? When's the
last time you ran a ten k? And if you
haven't done it in fifteen years, I don't freaking care.
All right, what difference does it make? Do it now
nineteen seventy eight? By the way, as long as you
ask literally the last time you ran a ten k
(01:31):
that might have been seventy nine. I'm gonna do one
in the next year. That's what I'm building up to.
I'm gonna run a ten k in the next year.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I am one of those I need to get that
zero point zero sticker for my car because I have
never run a ten k and will never run a
ten k.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I've ever seen that. That's hilarious. Zero point zero in
the same font.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, that's perfect, and it says I don't run.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
If a bear chases me for ten kilometers, I will
do a ten k.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
There you go, turn to the bear and say how
long are we going to do this? Because if it's
going to be more than six point one miles, I
might I might just lay down.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Right, Why would I want you to eat me when
I'm tired? And you just get this no advantage to.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Either one of us. Cut to the chase, cut the
chase to the catch. So you've done that many push
ups fairly recently. That's a good chunk of push ups
right there.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I have not done a one since my back problem
started last summer, So I think I need to start
working my way back.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I haven't even tried it. I'm I'm three out of
the last five days, I think. So I'm on a
bit of a role here eating and exercising. Have you
ever been arrested? No, No, there was a there's a hesitation.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
No, there was a dumb situation when I was in.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Middle school that it resulted in me getting in a
lot of trouble momentarily before the truth came out.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But you weren't arrested.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
No, I have never been arrested.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So your hesitation wasn't should I say this out loud
on the air or not? Your hesitation was because I
went through.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
The most of the everything other than getting booked.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I went through the process up.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Some kid ripped the Mercedes emblem off of the vice
principal's car and stuck it in my backpack because I
had come from a Christian school and he was all
anti Jesus and God and all that.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Wow, and then told and then told the school.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And the best part was when the assistant principal came
and got me from class and she pulls me out
and she says, you know, I think you have something
of mine.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
And I'm like, oh no. She goes, you might be.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Wearing it around your neck, because all the kids were
like wearing the big fake car emblems around their chain.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I remember, yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
So I pulled out the Catholic, you know, the Celtic
cross that my mom had got me, and I'm like,
I'm clueless. At this point, she opens my backpack and
there was a Mercedes emblem in there.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Wow. So this kid went and said, Katie Green stole
the Mercedes emblem.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Said he saw me take it, and he did it
to another girl that transferred to the school from the
same school with me. So we both got pulled into
the office and we're talking to the cops and.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, and how long did it take you to straighten
the sound flavor flavor? How did you clean it? How
did you crew yourself?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
It took about I think I was in the office
for four and a half hours writing a statement and everything.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And then the whole time I'm going my.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Dad's a judge. Just call him.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
We'll clear this up, you know, because he was a
judge at the time.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
And yeah, it took a lot. It was traumatic.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Now, for some reason, this reminds me of one of
my more embarrassing stories before we get there, Katie, what
does it take to become a judge? Because Jack knows this,
I've been saying for years I ought to be a judge.
Do you know why?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Because I'm so judgmental. Yeah, I didn't want to say it.
I think I'd be really good at it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So did your dad get elected or was he an
appointed judge or.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
He was he was appointed by Duke Majon.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh okay, a governor of yesteryear. Yes, okay. Was he
a TV judge? A TV judge on TV? Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
He could give Judge Judy a run for money.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Oh, I so want to be a TV judge anyway.
Jack has an embarrassing story, Gladys.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I was in high school. I believe I was a
sophomore in the band. And this is embarrassing for odd reasons.
So the trumpet section had decided that during this rest
a rest if you don't know music is silence, or
you'd stop playing but in this case it was actually
silence during the song. During the rest, all the trumpet
(05:37):
players were gonna, I forget what if the noise was
even pretend to burp or something like that. So it's
I get about about about about about a bout about
about it. But everybody was going to do that, and
then and and I didn't, but all the other trumpet
players did. And the band teacher went back crazy, like
band teachers do over anything. Yes, yes, because they because
(06:01):
they hate life, they hate the fact that they're genius
musicians usually and other teaching a bunch of teenagers who
couldn't give a crap about music, and it makes them
so angry that they drink and yell at children. This
is when you sat them. Yes, he throw his keys
at people, this whole city keys or the baton. He
threw the baton at people, erasers, all kinds of stuff.
(06:22):
But anyway, he got so mad at people burping during
the rest, and he went one by one who did it?
Who did that? And then everybody's just kind of sitting there,
and some people were smirking or whatever, and he went one
by one and looked them in the eye and put
their finger right in their face. Did you make that
sound during the rest and most of them, most of
them fessed up and said yes, But it got to
me and I said no because I didn't so I had.
(06:45):
I was like. It was like a triple whammy of awful.
I don't think the band teacher believed me. The other
kids were like, what a puss because I didn't, And
then I was fine. I was feeling horrible for fever.
I'm thinking I was lying and that my peers thought
I was weak for not joining them at the completely
(07:05):
meaningless hijinks. But that's kind of person I was. I
didn't join the hijinks.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
And here we are, all these years later, and it's
still affecting me.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's still affecting me, not because it bothers me, because
I didn't. I'd feel better if I had.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, you may have been a trumpeter, but you've certainly
earned the sad trombone wam wah.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's exactly that's exactly right. I didn't join in the
meaningless nobody gets hurt teenage hijinks because I was too
straight laced. Isn't that incredible?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
And you still got yelled at for it?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And I still got in trouble for it because he
didn't believe me. I could tell he didn't believe me.
So are there any more questions for Katie?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I enjoying this. Have you ever been arrested? Uh? What's
the biggest celebrity you've ever met? Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I interviewed the cast of Jackass, So Johnny Knoxville and
all those guys, Okay, and Robin Williams.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's a big one. That's a really big one.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
He was really sweet at what point in his life
later Actually this.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Was in twenty eleven, so that's towards the end.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Then.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, he was at I was at a comedy show
and his daughter was performing and he was there to
watch his daughter.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's a cool Bay Area guy. So yeah, easier to
run into goes the purple onion. Do you get anything
out of meeting celebrities at this point in your life?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, I don't really. After you meet up there ahead,
everybody should get to have the experience of meeting enough
celebrities to realize it ain't nothing. Yeah, just it ain't nothing.
Used to fairly awkward.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Or like, I mean, you guys know this being in
a position where some people might look at you as one,
and you're right.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, yeah, exactly, not at all. Yeah, man, that's the
weird thing about celebrity. It's all in the other person's head.
It doesn't actually exist as a thing. It's and you
can't measure it or anything like that, right, right.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And while I actually ninety eight percent of the time
really enjoy meeting folks who say, hey, I recognize you,
I just want to say I like the show's because
people are very nice, and they often end up being
really nice people who I enjoy chatting with the greatest
experience or experience rather to illustrate what Jack's talking about
(09:19):
is And this has happened many many times, will meet
like a super avid listener who has a friend with
them who doesn't listen, or has never heard of us,
or was from a different part of the country or whatever.
You had one person about to go to pieces and
the other like, hey, how's it going. So, as some
people have observed, fame isn't something you have, it's something
(09:41):
they have.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
That's a great way to put it.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, don't still, it's so anybody who aspires to fame,
don't trust me when I say this.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
If you aspire to have a successful business.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I consider our quote unquote fame just to be like
an after effect of having a successful business. But the
idea that your self image will rise and fall based
on the number of people who think you're cool or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Now you don't don't get into that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
The Armstrong and Getty Show yea or Jah ORGHO podcasts
and our hot links.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It's the Armstrong and Getdy Show featuring our podcast one
more thing, download it, subscribe to it wherever you like
to get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So here's the serious thing I was going to do,
which feels weird now, but maybe I need transition music
in my mind. Have we ever used transmission transmission music?
This is when you shift from second to third gear,
transition music from silly to serious. Can we do that? Michael? Yeah,
I think this will work. Actually both ways here, Okay,
(10:52):
you know you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
We used to have different silly to serious music than
our serious to silly music.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
This is a song is this doesn't work? This is
a song. Sam is going to be dancing too. You're
a great. In the fifties when the twist was popular,
anybody can twist awesome. When there were dances, the monkey
to swim, anything that you just like you knew what
you're supposed to do with their hands, and it was
crossy simple. Yeah, I'm not doing a good job of
(11:19):
transitioning to something serious. This Air Force pilot retired over
the weekend who was involved in nine to eleven. And
I had never heard this story, or I had, and
I forgot it because I can hide my own Easter eggs. Anyway,
This Air Force F sixteen pilot retired over the weekend
after forty years in the Air Force. He his job
(11:40):
was to take out Flight ninety three, the last plane
that was still in the air on nine to eleven.
And I had never heard this story in completion. I
knew that we had scrambled fighter jets and that that
was a possibility. I didn't know this. He's sixty one
years old now. He was in his late thirties at
the time, and him and this other female pilot, Heather Penny,
(12:01):
who was twenty six at the time, were ordered to
go up. This is after you know, two planes that
at the World Trade Center. One it hit the Pentagon
and there was another plane in the air and we
figured it out and this had all occurred in like seconds,
And this was all happening really really fast, and they
were scrambled and told to go up and what was
the actual phrase, stop it? Their orders were to locate
(12:23):
flight ninety three and stop it. That's all they were told.
So him and this other woman went up, and he
was the guy in charge, and he went up because
he didn't want to ask anybody else to do this,
because he had an idea of how awful this would be.
Oh wow. They decided him and this woman that if required,
they would hit the hijack plane with their jets, making
it a suicide mission. They were Yeah, he said that
(12:47):
we couldn't figure out how to it first because our
fighter jets were not armed with missiles. Oh, we did
have any weapons. We were just we just went up
and were told to stop that plane. Oh my lord.
I so you hadn't heard this. So he and this
woman said they planned to ram the front of the
jetliner and he was going to hit it from the front.
(13:08):
She was going to hit it from the back at
the same time, flying at you know, six hundred miles
an hour, and that's what they were going to do.
But right before they were already in the air and
screaming toward the plane. Before it happened, they got word
that the plane had gone down. Because we all know,
the passengers took over the plane and it crashed into
(13:30):
the ground and they all died. This guy, the woman
was single and childless. But this dude's I should give
his name. I haven't given his name yet, have I.
He's a freaking hero, Mark Sassville. He had a wife
and two young children, ages three and five. At the time.
He said, it's a testament to those people that brought
down that plane that changed my life's family forever.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
He was going to die, wife and two young kids,
going Okay, this is what I have to do.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
He said. He didn't even think about it at the time.
He said, training just kicked in and it all happened
so fast. They were given the order to take down
the plane okay, and he talked to the woman, this
is what we'll do. We'll fly into the plane and
its just all I'm sure. It was happening very very fast. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, more toxic masculinity from him and her.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah. Wow, that's that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
How many people did those passengers on flight ninety three save.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It's a number that'll never be known. Well, were the
flight was believed to be headed for what the White House?
That guy's going to say. They're not certain still on
that yet. There were some beliefs that it was the
White House, some that it was the capital. But either
way it was going to be like the Capitol. Yeah, yeah,
either way it was going to be bad.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, it would be interested to know if he called
his wife prior to getting in that jet.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Oh, like what you would say.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
From reading just this short description of there was no
time for that. This was a this is what's happened.
There's still a flight in the air, like a run
to the plane, get in the air and just go
and go. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Wow, you read the nine to eleven report, It was
amazing how much confusion there was and trying to get
planes in the air to defend DC or whatever. There's
nobody even knew who to call to suddenly defend the homeland,
and so enormous amounts of time elapsed before they got
like a significant force up in the air.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah. Somehow, I just happened to see the video the
other day of George Bush reading the reading to those kids,
and the person came and whispered in his ear Mister President,
were under attack. I understand why he did this how
he did it, because he was in shock himself. You know.
He says he didn't want to like freak out the kids.
(15:43):
He should have stood up right there and just walked out.
The kids will be fine. The whole America's the whole
country is about to be freaked out. So yeah, waiting
another however many minutes it was before he did anything.
I don't know that was the best choice, but I
can understand. Yeah, that's a lot to comprehend in a
very you know, all of a sudden, sitting in front
of the press. He was sitting there because I just
(16:06):
for some reason. Oh, I was at some more recent
interview where he talks about it, because now he is
an old man. It's interesting to see the videos of
him now he's an old man, and he was such
a young man at the time. But he was talking
about how he was looking at the back of the
room and seeing all the press. They were all getting
the alerts, so he knew they knew. And that's a
(16:28):
lot to have ridle through your brain at one time.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I actually know a couple of people who know w
one a little bit, one very very well. He was
in the press office for HW, and then knew W
and his family too, and everybody who knows George W
really really likes him.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And this guy who worked for HW for a number.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Of years, he echoes the impression I'd always gotten. He
said he's one of the most honorable and decent people
he's ever known.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, well, lots of people say that, which is interesting.
What happened in terms of are choosing whether we choose
our candidates, not the way we choose our candidates, And
we don't have any requirements for decency or experience or
(17:25):
really anything mental capacity coherence. What do you do?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It's the Armstrong and Giddy Show featuring our podcast One
more Thing. Download it, subscribe to it wherever you like
to get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So I read this article in the Wall Street Journal.
The title was the Chess Master trying to propel Google's
AI push. They hired a new guy the Game of Chest.
They hired this genius at Google to try to make
or that they win the whole AI race. But what's
the guy arounds Google? Puchai? How do you say his name? Sundar?
(18:09):
I hadn't heard this quote. He thinks that the development
of AI will be more profound than the invention of
fire or electricity. If he's right about that, we better
hold on to our seats because holy crappings. I mean,
and this fits in with what I saw at the Sphere, so, uh,
(18:31):
the Sphere is all about super high tech stuff. Henry
my Son even asked me what's the theme here because
there's lots of math equations on the wall and lots
of planets, and I just I don't know if it
was just science or exploration or I don't know what
the theme was of the building because originally it was
a U two show for the first week, So why
(18:51):
are all these math equations on the to see bono?
But Nicole accomplishment In the lobby they had had this
AI chick, so it was a robot. It's like your
latest coolest robot that i'd seen videos of before and
like I said earlier, too hot. I don't know why
you got to make the robots saw it? I mean,
why she you know, make it look like a normal person.
But she's standing there and she's talking to the crowd.
(19:15):
She's on a little stage and she's talking to the
crowd and she would ask people questions. Uh, somebody asked
me a question and somebody'd say something. She'd say, what's
your name? Uh? And he would say Billy, Okay, Billy,
what would you like to ask me? Like your red shirt, Billy?
You know that sort of thing. Just conversing with this
AI computer, and it was disturbing. And it was one
(19:36):
of those that has the ability for the face to move,
so not just mouth opening and closing in like eyes,
but like the cheeks and the like expression yeah expressions,
that's the word. It had full facial expressions. And I
was disturbing, and it was hot, and he bought two
thousand and it was having conversations with these people and
no matter what you brought up it would they would
(19:58):
engage in it, or ask you about how your day was,
or tell you something. And I thought, this is clearly
going to be in a classroom someday. Why would you
have individual teachers teaching Hamlet every year when you got
this robot who knows more about Hamlet than any individual
human being has ever known, can do the same routine
(20:19):
every year every semester and answer questions. And it's hot.
That's all I need. But I mean, in terms of
taking over jobs, it was it was disturbing. Henry and
I especially couldn't stop watching it. We went back to
watch more after the Sphere show. It's like, this is
crazy that this is even happening.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well, yeah, I could see virtually every university class being
you got to, whether sexy or not, a robot teaching
the class, you know, giving the material, answering questions from
its vast, unending trove of knowledge on the topic. And
then if you still have a question as a student
or you need something larified, you just get on a chat,
(21:02):
a computer chat like you're trying to figure out why
you're whatever it doesn't work, And that'll be the university experience.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, I don't know what it wouldn't be able to answer,
especially in the near future. Keeping in mind that whatever
we saw on Friday, they've probably got better technology already
today as we record this on Tuesday, and five years
from now, it'll be that much better than that. So
why won't that be the person doing the sales presenttion
presentation over there in the boardroom in front of your salespeople,
And it can answer the questions of hey, but what
(21:30):
do I do if a you know, if a client
says this, well, this is what you do, because it
knows more than anybody.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Have you guys heard about the the Uncanny Valley with
with this AI and the robotics and whatnot. It's it's
a part of our brain that gets really uncomfortable when
you start getting into that area where it's kind of
a human but you know it's not a human.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Henry was having that problem. What's that called?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
It's called the uncanny Valley?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Wow, Henry was having me is the basis of so
many horror creatures in horror movies. You make it almost human.
It's disturbing to us. Yeah, Henry was having that and
he said, I'm this is gonna give me nightmares tonight.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, it's a cool genre of horror that's like blowing
up right now, especially because these robots are popping up
all over the place and kind of give people the ick.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
The facial expressions on this robot were the most disturbing part.
Is that it would answer, you know, a kid's question
or an adult's question or whatever, and just the facial
expressions like looking interested and then wow, that's interesting and
puzzled and just and not like cartoonishly interested or puzzled,
but like an actual human being. It was weird.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
So at the risk of seven, like a guy calling
some sort of sex line of the past.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
What was the hot bot wearing like a sex spot
like a unitard? Oh sort of thing. So it had
bare legs even though they were gray like the color
of carbon fiber. Was it bush? Not like not like
carrion gray, but like gray.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
There are many hues of humans around the world, and
we're all deserving of love, Josh, but gray is generally
reserved for the dead.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
She was shaved headed, but like really well built, attractive
woman and very pretty. And uh and obviously if you
want to go that direction, and it is Las Vegas,
they will have those with blonde hair or brown hair
or whatever hair color you prefer, doing whatever you want
to do over there. I'm sure it's at some point
(23:35):
they may already. They might already. Yeah, yeah, that's a
different level of where it's on.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
It's an extra you can tack onto your room.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
But having seen that and having Sondra Putai or whatever
his name is, say, this is going to be as
big as fire or electricity. Even if he's half right
with what I just saw, we have no we human
beings aren't ready for what's about to happen. True, I
believe that to be true. Yeah, there could be a
(24:07):
sharp turn unlike any other sharp turn, Yeah, right ahead
of us. Yeah, and I'm old enough that I'm gonna
catch it, you know, at the tail end of my
life and have to adjust. My kids are going to
grow up in a world that I can't even imagine. Now,
they can't imagine. I have no idea what's the best
way to prepare them for it. Neither does anybody else.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Meanwhile, he says, brainstorming his screenplay, the Third World is
going to send wave after wave of millions of armed
people to come and take it right because they're still
without as we the developed world will be basking in
the wealthy glow of the AI affluence that's.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Coming our way. I had one more question I want
to ask Katie, and this is just about the way
some people dress in Las Vegas. Women who are dressed
crazy like I'm a stripper outfit in Las Vegas. That
is what is going on there mostly.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Unfortunately, that's just like the Vegas club attire.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So that's just the vibe. If you're going to go
to a club.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, if you have a really short dress that you're
not too sure where you could ever wear it.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
You take it to Vegas, Okay, it's true.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It doesn't stand out as weird there, whereas it would
at the company Christmas party or certainly Easter Sunday services. Right,
but yeah, don't put on your whole were for Easter Sunday. Kidding.
But even if you went to a bar or something, yeah,
dressed like that, you'd stand out as what But there
are so many women dressed like that there, Like, how
(25:46):
do you even walk in those shoes? You're if you
you know, don't bend down to pick up your keys
or I'm gonna you know, my kids are gonna be
exposed to something. It's just I just wonder what was
I just? I think people enjoy escaping their workaday lives
and they get to be somebody different, cool, cool. Then
what happens there stays there? Is? It famously said it's
(26:07):
tough to walk through those casinos with a couple with
a twelve year old and a fourteen year old, though
that's just the two boys. It's like educational. If I
hadn't walked through there, I was just thinking about this,
if my dad had taken me through there, when I
was a fourteen year old boy. Holy crap, I had
never stopped thinking about it. I never saw stuff like
that in real life.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
At age fourteen, I had to run off and hidden
behind a slot machine and attempt to stay there permanently.
He'd still be there, exactly, go ooching around like Gollum
in the shadows.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm surprised. I'm surprised. At some point I didn't say,
where's Sam, and Henry says he's back there, and he
just locked up and locked up with his eyes wide
too much, too.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Much, Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Hey we're Armstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast One
more Thing. Find it wherever you find all your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I'd never run into the concept of a personality higher
before the Wall Street Journal was writing about this.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Have you ever heard this term, Katie, just out of
curiosity now as you are, I have not. Younger and hipper.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So as the journal describes it, if you get further
on charm than skill, and you carry a workload light
enough to float atop your bubbly demeanor, then you might
be a personality higher. And this has actually become a
thing charismatic, friendly, likable employees who might not be that
(27:40):
great at their job or even work that hard, but
employers are so desperate for any sort of joy and
camaraderie in the workplace they're hiring these people.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
They call them personality hires. Wow, so that's how I
got hired exactly your personality Me too, Michael. So I'm
thinking of somebody right now. I won't say their name.
They're out there in the newsroom. I could see hiring
them because of their personality, because they just make the
(28:10):
whole room better. Everybody's happier when they're around. I can tell,
just because of their personality. Well, here are a couple
of facts. In this case. They're also to competent. But
I would I would like I would have hired this
person if they were not quite as competent as person X,
just because their personality the kind of place that's gonna
(28:31):
make the place more lively and happy. Sure. Yeah, well
here they quote.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
They start off the article quoting this one gal who's
definitely not a personality higher. She's a very matter of
fact person, just gets cracked done. But she says, oh,
some people actually proudly advertise themselves as personal personality hires
on LinkedIn, by the.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Way interesting, So they quote this.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Gal who's not that and finds it very annoying and described.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Well, you you're like me. We kind of, we kind
of bitterly are resentful against people who are like that
because we're not, and they're allotizing it. Though that's what
I'm like.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I wouldn't want to advertise, Hey, I'm not very good
at my job, but I'm funny.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You leave that first part unsad, right, but she cites
she worked with a personal personality hire in a previous job.
Though fun to be around, the person eventually generated resentment,
didn't really pull her load, and after winning a promotion,
prompted several coworkers to quit. There's just too much. Well
I would, I would. I would think if they're not
good at their job, that's not enough to overcome it.
(29:34):
But I'd never thought about this before. I could see
hiring somebody, you know, if you're gonna weigh them on
a bunch of different things. Man lump in the hole
brings the room up as opposed to down, so bosses
want the warm and fuzzies.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Is the mood at work is generally sour. One third
of US employees say they're engaged in their jobs, only
a third near an all time low. Half of workers
say they feel a lot of stress, half are interested
in new jobs, are actively applying with so many lonely,
unhappy charges. Bosses are desperate for a good workplace energy.
They say camaraderie is hard to build on hybrid schedules,
(30:10):
so they prize upbeat employees whose energy is hopefully infectious.
Then they quote a bunch of people and recruiters from
various industries and saying, yeah, we really, we really need
more people.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Oh, it's clearly true. I haven't had a job I
don't like in a long long time. But when I
worked jobs that I didn't like, oh, there were certain
people that made it bearable, and when they weren't there,
it was awful. Right, Or if they quit, everybody who's like,
I can't do this, right, I.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Wonder if they're hiring these people to make it more
appealing to come back into the office too, Like after COVID.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's got to be a factor.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Sure, yeah, so but anyway, there's this comedian Gal who
has done a couple of bits about being a personality
higher that I think are brilliant and illustrating what it
is all about. Her name's Vienna Aila and it's fifteen Michael,
So what's the.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Project about today? I have no idea. Do you guys
think we need to get an extension?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:09):
We can't call Greg.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
He's so scary.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
So Greg is our CEO.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I'll call Greg, of course, are you sure?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, let's call Greg. Greg is so terrifying. Greggy, Hey you,
where are you? How are your kids? I didn't know that,
so I'm just doing this school direction Annie. She's playing Annie.
Oh that's so amazing.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Hold on one, said Greg.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I asked me presentation.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Yeah, Greg, you know, I'm that's in. You're talking Annie
with you all day.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
But Greg, I have to ask you something.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
We're gonna need a couple of days, Greg, take a week.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh yeah, especially next week. I don't want to come
to Nanny. Back to the important stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Where are you?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I'll come me through right now.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Let's freaking eat a fry ocean talk Annie.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
My guy.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Greg, I'm coming to you.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And then and there's another bit where they have the
permit revoked for an event at the last minute and
they're like, oh my god, the only way we could
deal with this is to have the mayor on our side.
She says, the mayor, the Mayor's in my ass and
abs class, I'll call her right now.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
She goes, hello, girl, what's going on? Oh my god,
you don't need that class. Your ass is amazing anyway,
and she gets the permit reinstated. The ass she's just
a schmoozer and a networker and that sort of super
uppy person doesn't but and it's harder to tell without
the visuals in that first video, but she doesn't know
(32:37):
anything about the project. Then she gets on the call
with Greggy and says, what am I asking for again
to our coworkers? An extension? Oh right, right right?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
She goes into that. So it's a parody obviously, But
that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I never I don't think enough attention is paid to
like chemistry in a group of people for work. I don't.
I don't think most bosses ever even think about it.
They should. And now in the modern world of boy that,
like they said the hybrid working in zoom, I'm not
sure any of that translates to zoom.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I meant to talk about this
on the show. Maybe I will, But I was talking
to my son, who's just about to turn thirty, and
he was talking about and he's he's been a performer
of various sorts for a very long time. He's a
musician and a gifted actor who decided not to act.
(33:31):
And that's fine, but he said, coming out of COVID,
the very thought of performing just seemed enormous and terrifying
and overwhelming. Just so, and it's worth mentioning he lived.
He lives in Oregon, which is so cultish in its
(33:52):
or was in its adherence to every COVID policy, and
as a show of hating Trump, they wouldn't let their
children play with other children for year year and a half.
And it's just devastating to so many people of so
many ages, even people in their twenties.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
It's horrible.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Anyway, speaking of people who have difficulty communicating and communing
and looking people in the eye and the rest of it,
Man COVID Deco Declan. My son said to me, he said,
I know a lot of people who are really damaged
by it, and they're not healing very quickly.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Was it just the act of having to go out
and perform again, or were there people that weren't going
to the shows. What made it so much more difficult
post COVID.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, because everything was so locked down.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
You just you had like your roommate, and you would
interact with maybe somebody at work if you were allowed
to work a little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
It was like living in solitary confinement in a prison.
Obviously not that bad, but I know a couple of
people who talk about that dark period where they didn't
have any communication, and they would you struggle to have
any opportunity just to like wave to another car far away.
All right. I didn't live that way, so I didn't.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I guarantee they lived in a blue state. There's a
prominent musician who I think is a wonderful songwriter, but
he tweeted at one point that he felt bad for
his kids because his kids hadn't had a plated or
hugged another child or whatever.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
For a year. I wanted to fly to Portlandia where
he resides, and punch him in the stomach and and just.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
To wake him up and say what are you doing?
And all the dad about children and being fine was
out there, all of it. But you had to virtue
signal how much you despised Trump by torturing yourself and
your loved ones, and and Declann lived in the midst
of that, and anyway, sorry to get started on that stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
It's all no, it's a reality a lot of people
are dealing with still.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And that's why his company needs a personality hire. Just
things up a little bit, full circle Armstrong and Getty
Popular Podcasts
1. Stuff You Missed in History Class
Join Holly and Tracy as they bring you the greatest and strangest Stuff You Missed In History Class in this podcast by iHeartRadio.
2. Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations.
3. Crime Junkie
If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people.