July 30, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of the Tuesday July 30, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- MichaelAngelo's Dental Conundrum...
- Revisiting the "Not Real" Girl...
- Make the Photo Perfect...
- Tattoos on the YooHoo.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and jettiet Hee
arm Strong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'm Strong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast One More Thing.
Find it wherever you find all your podcasts, drama in
real life. What was the last time you took over
the One More Thing podcast? What was that one about?
Was that your health seat?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It was type two diabetes.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Right, that was an interesting story. I'm fortunate for you,
obviously interesting. How is that going by it?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
That's going very well. Actually, now I have a funny
story about that. They want to pump me forward. They
wanted to give you a bunch of drugs, and I said,
I will change my diet, I will exercise. I've been
doing all these things. And one doctor said, no, no, no, no,
you you got to be on these drugs for life.
And I've been able to do it without it pretty much,
and I'm not going back to that doctor.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Two interesting things about that.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
One, I think the doctor's recognizing reality that like ninety
five percent of people don't do anything about their diet.
But two, the fact that they would push the drugs
on you rather than like really push the diet part.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I was just reading about the incredible pressure that is
on doctors now to see thirty seven patients in a
single day, and they are just pushed and pushed and
pushed by their corporate overlords.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And so this doc, I don't know you're Doc Michael,
and I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Just guessing, but it could be he's thinking, I don't
have time for the You got to take care of yourself,
and here's how lecture. And then when you hem and
haw say all right, here's the other alternative, blah blah blah,
or why don't you come back and see me in
a week because you can't get an appointment for three
and a half months.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So he just thinks, let's cut to the chase.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Take these pills, get now, get I gotta go see
thirty six more patients.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well there's that.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And then not to be the conspiracy guy, but I mean,
if you prescribe medicine, somebody's paying for it and somebody's
receiving money, so there's got to be some incentive. Someone
might not be the doctor, but there's got to be
an incentive somewhere along the line. To have you taking
drugs as opposed to eating better, right, I mean, people
make money if you don't eat better.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I was told that they have medical reps come by
all the time. Oh yeah, promoting drugs now Well and
big Pharma allegedly. And I don't know whether this motivates
people a little or a lot. We'll have a four
day conference on how Zunetra can help your patients.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
It's in Maui. It's at the fourth Seasons. There's a
twenty five minute meeting each morning where you talk about Zunetra.
Then you're free for the rest of the day, expenses paid.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, I haven't talked about this in years, but I
used to be friends with somebody who was a pharmaceutical
rep and just lived two houses down for me, and
so she would book these really expensive dinners at the
most expensive place in town. But if they didn't have
all the seats filled, they were gonna get paid for anyway.
She'd say, Hey, I got two extra seats. So we
would go in, eat the meals and hang around. And
(03:01):
sometimes I'd have to like kind of pretend I was
a doctor or something like that if somebody asked me
a question. But they were getting whined and dined at
the most expensive place in town with an open bar
and everything like that. To tell them about some drug
and there'd be a five minute slideshow about the drugs
and then you get like a three hundred dollars meal
for free. Oh I'd make hay with that opportunity. Man,
I turn to my left and say, what do you prefer?
(03:23):
Viruses or bacteria?
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Oh my god, to be at the same table with
you two pretending to be doctors.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I know. I was always dreading if somebody actually asked
me at fractures.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
There's something, aren't they. I don't know what I would say. Oh,
I tell you what. Yeah, I hate to see it,
but you got to.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Deal with it. Im wrong, So I told him, don't
do that anyway. Let's wait for the stake to show up.
Oh the other thing there, I knew there were there
were Actually there was another thing.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Now I've forgotten it.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I'm Joe Biden, Like man, I do notice when I
don't get enough sleep that I can't remember near as
well my sentences. Now this is in the middle and
I can't finish, can't remember the end. The oh, the
direct relationship between eating better and your your body changing
or getting better numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Even though that's obviously clearly.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
True, I'm always still somewhat surprised, like I eat really
good and look I'm a couple of pounds lighter, or
the opposite, I eat really bad and I'm a couple
of pounds every year. It's just, even though I know
it's true, to see it like in black and white
in front of me is always just a little something.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, it's like the old I feel better after a
drink or two the next morning than I did after
the night I had seven. I'll be damned, I've only
learned that lesson five million times.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Right, Anyway, what's your tail today, Michael? Okay, So here
we go. Yesterday had to get my teeth cleaned.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
And I have a very good dental hygienist who I've
had for years. She's really gentle, she does teeth well,
she doesn't no hurt, no pain.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
So I show up the dentist yesterday and it turns
out she's not there's and I had to know that.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
She goes.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
We have somebody else though, that will take you. And
so I get this person. And now you put it
this way, I'm still tasting blood today from them scraping.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
My brune Hilda the cruel. Yes, no, nobody in this
scenario speaks English. And it was in a garage and
rioal Linda correct, No, no, no, actual dental practice.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Actual dental practice, good place. But I don't know if
this was a new employee or what the deal was,
but uh, she was really rough. You know, you put
the tube in to suck the water out, and she
was just jamming it down there.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Oh wow, physical reaction. This was crazy. When did she leaves?
Speaker 6 (05:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And then I guess she got behind on our schedule,
and so the doctor had come to her and said, said,
you know, is he almost done?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
She goes, well, it's gonna be a few minutes, just
a few minutes.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And then all of a sudden, she starts putting the
polish on my teeth and rubbing as fast as she can,
starts grabs the water and just starts squirting my mouth.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know, just if it's just crazy. So wow, that's terrible.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So you a car was yeah, literally, so just we're
running out of times. So you picked up the poker
and you stabbed her with it, and you wonder what
were you in the right.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Somebody that doesn't like conflict. So I just held on
for dear life and I just put up with it,
and I'm fine, But I'm debating do I call him
and let them know, Hey, this person was really rough.
This is terrible because I got to go back there
in a few months and.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It was really painful. Well, you asked two questions.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The first one I've had before where it's like, the
last person's better at this, but I don't want to
make another appointment. I need to get this done now,
and so it's not just conflict avoid and it's like
the reality of trying to get the person you like better.
So that's that's one thing. But then the complain, Hell,
he is, I'm complaining.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
It was funny is during the whole procedure though, she goes,
I know you're just laying there. She goes, I take
that as a compliment. It means that I'm not hurting you.
And I'm thinking, is this a car? Are people saying
to her?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
If you do you scream? She thinks everything's going fine.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yes, that's a really weird thing, she said, that's so odd.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
I would definitely call Michael and maybe just say something
along the lines of could I not be with this
individual next time because that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Was a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, but I would go ahead and say why it
was extremely uncomfortable. It was the most painful cleaning I've
ever had say that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, that's that's perfectly reasonable to say.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
It's like when I used to talk about my man Pong,
the phlebotomist draw blood for me. I would always call
and see if Pong was there because he could do it,
or you didn't feel a thing, and I love Pong,
but he quit and uh, and other people aren't as good.
But I've never had anybody jab me in the side
of the year with the needle and say sorry about that.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
I just want her to look at me next time
I go and say, oh, you're the one that called.
You're the one that got me in trouble, or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
My brother don't think it would go like that.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I told the story years ago when my brother went
into the hospital is here and here in the local area,
and man, the president of the hospital, ended up meeting
me in the parking lot. After I told this story
on the air, they were so worried, but anyway, they
were trying to put an IV in my brother and
the guy just kept having to do it over and
over and over again and jab.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Him over and over again.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And my brother is incredibly stoic as a military dude
and all that sort of stuff. It's part of his
whole personality that he would never ever act like anything
hurt underneath circumstance.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But they really guy was it. And the guy actually
says to him, I'm sorry. Man.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I was at the casinos really late last night and
just kept Joe oh, and I.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Was like, dude, you gotta tell him. Nah.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
The only time I've ever had someone miss I. Oh, yeah,
it's good for you. Oh yeah, she missed three times
and I went three strikes and you're out.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You're done. I'm not doing this again.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
And I walked out, made another appoint This was before
it took eight months to get your blood drawn, though.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
But yeah, wow, wow.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
It's interesting because getting back to the whole doctors more
than dentists. But it's just in my lifetime, the whole
doctor patient relationship has evolved from I know you for
years and years. You're like my partner in health. There's
a great deal of respect for you. There's concern for me. Now,
it's more like getting a burger out of a fast
(09:29):
food joint. To some extent, I've got a great doc
right now, but I too, I've had a couple that
were terrible, that were just they well, it was like
eating a burger from a fast food joint. So I
don't you know, Michael, I would. I would remember, you're
a customer who's paying a great deal for a service.
And there are other service providers and dentists are are
skilled people and they're caring.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And the rest of it. But they're not They're not gods,
they're not priests.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I don't think this would be a bad way to
handle you say, this is the deal I make with everybody.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Whatever you do to me, I'm gonna do to you.
Just keep that in mind. Yeah, that's an idea. I
brought my tools, and so you know, you might own
to think that over.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You show up with your own tool.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You do, and you say, I'm gonna give as much
pain as I get. Always get started.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
If it's to you, exactly, because your move ball is
in your court.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
If I feel nothing, you feel nothing, That's what I'll do.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I'll walk up to the receptionist, scrape your teeth a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Say does that hurt?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Guess what that's what she did to me? Bought your
host spray her with it right the face. How do
you like it? Eh? Okay, hold still, lady, you're gonna
feel a little pressure.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
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Speaker 3 (10:46):
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more Thing.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
We do a new one every day. Find it wherever
you find your podcasts. So maybe it became a of
this meme, this clip that went viral. As they do,
I'm gonna start saying that just to annoying people. The
clip went viral. Oh, let's start with the number six.
This is the lady standing next to the partition in
(11:15):
the plane, looking back toward the back section of the plane,
chewing somebody out.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
I'm telling you, and there's the reason why either believe
it or they should not believe it.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And I am.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Telling you right now there is not real and you
can tell it not. I'm not going to it's bett
a while now.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And I just saw a little bit of it and
there was something about the pitch of her voice.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I just thought, I'm out, So I haven't paid any
attention to it.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Attractive white girl pointing to the back of the plane, saying,
this m effort is not real.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
The best part is when the entire plane they all
turn around to look.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
At what is she talking about?
Speaker 9 (12:00):
What?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Not real? What do you mean? Not real? Not real?
And then she hit some with you can die on
this plane, but I'm not. I'm getting off. Who's not real?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
So you know it obviously lent itself beautifully to various
memes about you know, who was on the who was
in the plane that was not real?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Or what she.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Meant and that sort of thing. It exploded as those
things do. Well, here she is, I guess her name's Tiffany,
which perfect. She's explaining what the hell happened?
Speaker 9 (12:31):
First and foremost, I want to take full accountability for
my actions. They were completely unacceptable. Distress or not I
should have been. I should have been in control of
my emotions and.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That was not the case.
Speaker 9 (12:48):
My use of profanity was completely unnecessary, and I want
to apologize to everyone on that plane, especially those that
had children aboard. We all have her bad moments, some
far worse than others, and mine happened to be caught
on camera for the whole world to see multiple times.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Sorry, all right, sound like mini mouths.
Speaker 9 (13:14):
It has been really comic goal for everyone, and I
have highly enjoyed so many of the means. On the
flip side, it is very invasive and unkind, and I
don't know what I would do without the love and
support of my friends and family.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I hope they use this experience and you do a
little bit of good in the world.
Speaker 9 (13:37):
And that.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Planes.
Speaker 9 (13:40):
I hope that you guys can accept my apologies.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Please make it in now. You don't know me an apology.
I don't care now. I'd read that she got in
a dispute with some family members she was traveling with
about whether they stole her earbuds or EarPods or whatever,
and that it escalated the where it turned to this
plane's gonna crash, you're gonna die. I'm getting off. I
(14:04):
don't know whether she was psychotic. She didn't sound drunk,
but she might be one of those people who sounds pretty,
you know, sharp, even when she's hammered.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Yes, no, I was just gonna say that video explained nothing.
She did not tell us how many acid tablets she
dropped before getting on that plane.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yes, she never got to the realness or lack thereof
of the gentleman in the back of the plane, which
is the is the thing and I didn't know is
apologizing for hilarious memes a thing? Now you have to
go and post a video where I take full responsibility
for this hilarious meme.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Ian what is that?
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I kind of felt bad for her because after this
video surfaced, you know, it went everywhere, and then the
next headline following was the Internet trying to figure out
who she was, right, So all these you know, Internet
sleuths were digging to get her information.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And now she finally, you know, she had.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
To block all of her stuff on social media, so
it was a headline on top of a headline.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So she was just trying to clear herself.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
God help you if you ever become one of these people,
because I'm sure it gets into They get into every
aspect of your life, and you know, what you did
in high school and your ex boyfriend from college and
everything else all of a sudden appears in the world.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But she did.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So is there still any explanation for the.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
The that mf or isn't real? Well, there's there's more
to the clip. That I don't know, but there's more
to the clip. You can sit on this plane and
you can effing die with them or not. I'm not
going to as we heard, she demanded that the crew
quote stop the plane, and the aircraft was brought back
to the gate and she was ejected.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
We've all had our bad moments, Joe. She takes full responsibility.
It's a good point.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
She then allegedly refused to leave the boarding area, continued
to rent while being escorted outside the terminal, where she
repeatedly scored officers insisted the plane would explode after takeoff.
She then snuck through security a couple of more times,
or attempted to, or went through security a couple more times,
and they kicked her out of the terminal.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Again.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
She's lucky she did this in twenty twenty three and
not in like twenty twelve, or she would have been
duct taped to the cargo hold of the plane back
when we took all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So seriously, how do you.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Get ejected from a flight and then get back through security?
How does that happen? Because aren't you on some list
or something.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Well, I don't know, she's just they said, look you
gotta get out of here go.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
She said, hey, then turn around, walked over to the
security again and went through again, got screened. Can I
hear the original clip again? Because that's that's that's new
to me, the whole He's not real, I'm telling.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
You, And there's the reason why.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Get everyone. Can you either believe it or you not
believe it? How And I am telling you right now.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
There is not real this plane and you can dive it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm not I'm not going to sour. Yeah, everybody's like,
who's not real? Who's not? Everybody back there looks real
to me?
Speaker 6 (17:01):
And the Internet, my gosh, it's totally the Internet I
signed up for. All these people were taking this video
and splicing it. So with that, I'm ever right there.
And then they turned the camera to themselves.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
They're like, I'm here is a good story. Oh boy,
the poor lady. I'm glad you took a responsibility though. Yeah,
that was good.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
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Speaker 2 (17:38):
By the way, Katie, I really like your T shirt.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, yeah, no it yeah no. So we got to
talking on the radio show about the editing of photos
just in general, because so many people do it and
it's so effortless.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Now I don't have the Google phone, but I.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Was just reading so the Wall Street Journal had an article,
when is it okay to alter the family photo? Who
doesn't alter big family photos? And if you didn't before
the but I mean, like back in the old days
when you'd go get a professional photo done and everything
like that, they were altering them for you.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
They were all brightening them up or list them or whatever.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
And se every every group photo I take, I make
sure everybody looks top notch because I don't want to
hear it afterwards.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Oh yeah, why did you post that one? I look
bad in that one?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Oh no, I went through. I made my best effort
to make.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
All of you look good.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
So doing what For instance, sometimes someone's eyes will be closed,
you can open them. Somebody's not smiling when they usually would,
you can give them a smile.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
What app or phone are you using to do that?
Face tune? Face tune? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
So the Google pixel thing. You've probably seen the ads.
It looks fantastic. But they've got a thing called best take,
where you do a blast of photos and then you
can pick each individual face. This is the best one
from this one. This is the best one in you know,
in a group photo. That's which sounds like was more
or less what they did there at Kensington Palace with
(19:11):
the royal family. I'm surprised they don't have more sophisticated
software than they did.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
According to their statement, Prince Will, I don't even hardly
know these people's names, Prince Vine. Prince Will took the
picture last week and Kate edited, and then she edited it.
I guess like a lot of wives probably do if
their husband takes a bad photo.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
This whole thing is because there was a big conspiracy
theory that she was dead after this abdominal surgery she
had because she hadn't been seen in the public, and
now they're trying to find any reason they can to
keep that conspiracy alive.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I e.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
They edited this photo and she's not really around or something.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That's what I've been reading.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, okay, that's that's That doesn't explain all of the coverage,
but certainly some of it now well, I'm willing to
concede that I may be an outlier in this stuff,
you know, to Katie's point, I don't hang out with
people who'd give a single crap. I mean, unless they're
like I take a picture and in the background they're
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with their lover and their wife doesn't know about it.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
They might be worried about that. But so I out you. Certainly, Yeah,
they'd ask me to.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
But I've just I'm now, if we're talking about bringing
out a little contrast or something like that, a filter
because it was a little bright there or something, I mean,
that's just that's how you make decent looking photographs. But
like slimming people and you know, give them a better
smile or white in their teeth and stuff like that,
(20:44):
I just it makes me uncomfortable. I feel like it's
divorcing reality from perception in a way that's unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Do you ever do you ever slim people? Katie? No, No,
that's not that's not cool.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
But I see your point, Joe, as you're drawing a
lot line basically at contrast and lighting.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Well, Joe's drawing very bright lines between good people and
bad people. So we got to figure out which end
of the line. We're all all, this must be what
it's like to be in a hearing in Congress, So
we need to find out which side of Joe's good
people bad people line were on.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So you're okay with contrast and bright? We have a format? Okay, great?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
But yes, are you okay with the You got a
bunch of photos and you put the smile on everybody's
best smile in the photo.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Are you okay with that or not?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It seems ridiculous to me, Although if each of those
individual images existed, just not at the same time, I
will allow it. Like a fly lands on somebody's face
and you make a weird face trying to get the
fly off, and you're just gonna.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Leave it like that for that guy.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Or here's a question, what have you gained by and
what have you lost by not including that image?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
You are serving the idea of always looking unrealistic, beautiful
or or great, as opposed to capturing a moment where
something really funny had Well.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Speaking for myself, it's it's hard for me to wrap
my head around this because I don't have the motivation,
because I don't have any social media that I post
pictures on so nobody ever sees them but me and
other people in my family. Sometimes me and the kids
go through my phone. But so I'm not posting these
for any stuff. So maybe I would be more motivated
to if I posted these where anybody would see them.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But like, I know.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Someone who who who clearly uses the thinning thing whenever
they post pictures, because I see them on a regular basis,
and I know that that's not what they look like, and.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
That one I that I wonder about, I just think
that's fundamentally unhealthy. To thine own self be true is
like my my guiding principle for everything in life because
and it's not I'm not coming off as high handed.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I think I may be.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Better than some people at least at recognizing my weaknesses
and realizing you are really tempted to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
That's one of the things you really need to be
careful about.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
And one of them is, you know, self delusion or
you know, how would I put this? And I'm more
than willing to concede that I'm I may be an
outlier and a little bit weird about this, and you
live your own life.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I honestly don't care. I don't care enough about.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
The way you live your life to judge you unless
you're hurting other people. So don't take anything I say
as some sort of like Jack trying to frame it
as you're exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's probably you know what.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Honestly, that's probably a better way to frame this discussion.
It's more entertaining.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
This is called Joe's the jerk. I just what are
you doing?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Why are you doing that so people think you're better
looking than you are?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Why for dating apps? For if you're single and you're dating.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
If I was doing that, and I've never done online dating,
and I'm never going to a bit if I was,
got it be, I don't think I could stop myself
from just slightly slimming your face.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I mean, finely different questions. It is a completely posting
pictures of guys who weren't even me.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
That is a completely different question though, although at a
point though you're really misleading people. I mean, because I
have heard people talk about showing up to meet somebody
and it's like you're the same person from that photo.
Come on, yeah, I wouldn't want that. That would be hurtful.
I wouldn't want I wouldn't want that myself. I don't
want to meet somebody that I lured them in by
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making myself look different. They're like, whoa dude, how much
time did you spend editing that photo? But man, you
can I messed around with face tune a while just
to see what it was like. Then I don't even
have it anymore because I'm I'm not going to spend
that much time. But man, just it takes so little
effort to like slim your face just so, and you think, wow,
I look so much better with just that much effort.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
All right, here's here's the standard. And Katie cannot come
on this because she's super pretty. The like the best
non retouched photo of you, because we all have them.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Wow, I look good in that pic.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's as high as you can go.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
That's as handsome or pretty or whatever is a wi go.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
If all you're doing is bringing the photo up to
your best real photo, yes, that's not bad as a standard.
If you are exceeding the possibilities of a real photo
of yourself, then you're doing things in your mind that
are not healthy. If you change it to something you've
never actually looked that good, that that is a different category.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Unless again, you're trying to get laid, then anything goes Baby.
Here's a funny one.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I was disappointed that my Costco card expired because I
had a great picture on my Costco card.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
It's like one of my better pictures of me ever.
For so I had a driver's license once, I look
like an action star. Yes, my first driver's license was money.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
It all came together. I had a really good beard.
At that point, I looked at like a guy out
of the movies. Who would you know, is he turned
out to be, you know, some sort of master criminal?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So good?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
You know?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You know how if you end up in the news,
the media grabs like your driver's license photo and that
becomes the photo going everywhere. I've thought about that before
if something happened, and now the current driver's license photo
I have is just awful.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I wish I could get a change. That would be
the picture of what I look like for any story
you want. You want it to be your Costco card photo? Yes, yes,
if you have to.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
If something happens where I end up with the news,
good or bad, use my Costco card.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You let your Crossco card expire? Yeah? Somehow?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Okay, So why don't we go through a checklist of
different Go ahead, Michael, did you have more criticism?
Speaker 9 (26:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know, do you let your kids starve too? That
was j Yeah, yeah, a boy, that's what I was.
That's what I was open for, Michael.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
All right, So it throw out scenarios and I'll rule
whether they're okay. For instance, family picture, your kid has
acne problems and is super sensitive about it.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
M they're super sensitive about it. That's different the.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Family picture like the one that's gonna go on the
wall in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Maybe a Christmas card.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
See, I'd be okay with it because that acne isn't forever.
You're going to grow up, and if they want that
picture up the way, you know, then.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It is strictly speaking, a disease.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I realize that makes it sound more serious than it,
but it can be very serious for people and the
way they feel about themselves.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Certainly for my own personal use the pictures my phone.
I've never altered my kids to make them look better ever, not.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
One, no, no, yeah, I want to know what looks
like right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Me, on the other hand, what do you want to
do with me? Ever?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Using slimming software? Now, other than like for dating functions.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I never have for real, I don't think I ever
would except for dating situations. But so you know, all
of this is there are lots of gray areas you're
I guess some men do this too, but women do
it more. I think you're wearing some sort of slimming garment.
How's that different if you're wearing a slimming garment under
your dress at the wedding. Isn't that How's that different
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than if you use the photoshop to slim yourself a
little bit?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Why?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Well, because it's it's possible in the real world.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
So that's your standard again, is if you could get
yourself to look like that in the real world.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
You know, it's funny between the radio show and recording this,
I went and got some more ice water from the
kitchen and just everybody's getting ready and all right, let's go.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Do the podcast.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I've been thinking hard about all the things we've talked
about today, and I've got to form it all into
a unified philosophy. And it's going to be something like
I'm a realistarian or something like that, because the only
thing that's going to keep me from becoming like an
angry nihilist, because I think the artificial world, the virtual world,
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is incredibly unhealthy and is drawing humanity and individual people
into just terrible psychological places and addictions and self hatred
and suicide and depression and anxiety. I think it is
so effing unhealthy. We have not scratched the surface of it.
But the only way I can live in that world
is if I have an alternative that I'm focused on,
(29:36):
and it's going to be something about anything that departs
from what is real more than.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Just a little bit I'm just going to reject.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, I wonder I wonder if that'll happen for anybody
on the younger end, though, like Katie, you're younger, so
wouldn't smartphones come out you're a kid?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Probably on no, I was graduating.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
If you're If you're a young person, especially women, but
if you've never lived in a world where you couldn't
easily manipulate your photos and make yourself a better look better.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
How would you ever?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Not to answer your question, which I think is a
really interesting one, whether young people will you know, go
along with what I'm talking about or ever get a
chance to the answer is clearly yes.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
One hundred percent. Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
The question is how many I read something interesting the
other day, twenty somethings who have jettison TikTok and other
social media and how happy they are. Now, that's not
like seventy million in the United States, but it's thousands.
And just like you know, whether you want to cite
Christianity or healthy eating or regular exercise or whatever, just
(30:43):
because most people aren't is not a good reason to
stop advocating for what's good and what's healthy.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
But if I'm on the losing side again, that's fine.
I can live with that.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I was just singing for young people altering their photos,
one they will have always had that in their lives.
And two you kind of always are on a dating
app when you're It seems to me from observing social
media for young people, your life is a dating app.
It's an interesting point. Yeah, so the point you're going
to be adjusting your phone. I mean, how you couldn't
have stopped me and like if I hit whereas in
(31:15):
high school now from altering my photos to make myself
look better?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Not a chance you couldn't stop me with a gun
from altering my photos to make myself look better.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Oh wow, what.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
If you had an uncle that had well, he was
a pirate and he had a peg leg, would you no,
or put a different type of leg on there, like
herrot on his shoulder?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, of course it's an odd scenario. Michael.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
What's your pirate uncle's name? It's hard for me to
go forward without a name.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Art. Oh god, I'm really sorry about that. Wow, I
was right hurt. The brush this out of the podcast.
I'm really sorry about that. Shiver me timbers. He gave
me scurvy with that one. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
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Speaker 2 (32:29):
Can I say this? Well, of course I can say this.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
A friend who I work with, His wife is an obstetrician.
The stories she has heard amaze and the tattoos she
has seen, oh what, including one one woman.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I think I can tell this story. I'm sure you can.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Should I though, Oh man, she's gonna want to get
him in trustle So we're talking about tattoos on the you.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Who oh my god, or in the you who will
region the sympathy pain I'm feeling right now.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Is side even without the pain, just as a lifestyle choice, right,
and sometimes it's just in the suburbs, but not in
the city center.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
But can I say this, you know what, I can't
say it. I'm gonna make this up completely. This is
Joe Getty lying and creating fiction that is in no
way based on any truth ever spoken by anybody. One
gal who is well on in years, had a boxing
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glove to either side and the caption hit it like
a champ.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
No, she, oh my god, it's like a champ.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
So then you have to think as a dude or
a woman. I guess if she's a lesbian. But your
first you know, you become intimate after months of dating
and courting and then of course marriage, you decide.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
To decide you love each other very much.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You decide to become intimate, and this is the first
time you become aware of your the love of your life. Uh,
having it too. That's hit it like a champ. Unless
that tattoo is like a week old. I'm gonna have
questions it's.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Just reeks of class, you know. Yeah, what do am I? Hm?
How disturbed am I at that point? Am I thinking
maybe not?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Or you're not who I thought you were? Or and yes, Michael,
do you bring a boxing bell to bed? We'll get ready. Yeah,
you do that whole thing round. What was that a
statement of kind of general principle or was that like
a specific message to.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
A lover of her past? I would have questions?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
So, baby, I can't help, but notice you've I'm had
a whole set of to two.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
That's my goal, regardless of your signage.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Anyway, you didn't, I don't tell me to do that, right,
right exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
It's extraneous motivation.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
This is reminding me that's my general practice, right, This
is reminding me of one of the funniest things. So
my mother got a tattoo for her fiftieth birthday and
it is a dolphin that is jumping over a shamrock.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
And her big line.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Was like, yeah, in fifteen years, it'll be an eel
stuck in a pine tree.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Wow. The comedy stylings of Katie's mom. She's fantastic. So
does this where were we?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
So?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Does this made up? Doctor? Yes? Find a way to.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I just need to check my messages real quick, and
then you kind of lean your phone this wing
Speaker 1 (35:53):
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Was that your health seat?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It was type two diabetes.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Right, that was an interesting story. I'm fortunate for you,
obviously interesting. How is that going by it?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
That's going very well. Actually, now I have a funny
story about that. They want to pump me forward. They
wanted to give you a bunch of drugs, and I said,
I will change my diet, I will exercise. I've been
doing all these things. And one doctor said, no, no, no, no,
you you got to be on these drugs for life.
And I've been able to do it without it pretty much,
and I'm not going back to that doctor.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Two interesting things about that.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
One, I think the doctor's recognizing reality that like ninety
five percent of people don't do anything about their diet.
But two, the fact that they would push the drugs
on you rather than like really push the diet part.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I was just reading about the incredible pressure that is
on doctors now to see thirty seven patients in a
single day, and they are just pushed and pushed and
pushed by their corporate overlords.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And so this doc, I don't know you're Doc Michael,
and I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Just guessing, but it could be he's thinking, I don't
have time for the You got to take care of yourself,
and here's how lecture. And then when you hem and
haw say all right, here's the other alternative, blah blah blah,
or why don't you come back and see me in
a week because you can't get an appointment for three
and a half months.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So he just thinks, let's cut to the chase.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Take these pills, get now, get I gotta go see
thirty six more patients.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well there's that.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And then not to be the conspiracy guy, but I mean,
if you prescribe medicine, somebody's paying for it and somebody's
receiving money, so there's got to be some incentive. Someone
might not be the doctor, but there's got to be
an incentive somewhere along the line. To have you taking
drugs as opposed to eating better, right, I mean, people
make money if you don't eat better.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I was told that they have medical reps come by
all the time. Oh yeah, promoting drugs now Well and
big Pharma allegedly. And I don't know whether this motivates
people a little or a lot. We'll have a four
day conference on how Zunetra can help your patients.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
It's in Maui. It's at the fourth Seasons. There's a
twenty five minute meeting each morning where you talk about Zunetra.
Then you're free for the rest of the day, expenses paid.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, I haven't talked about this in years, but I
used to be friends with somebody who was a pharmaceutical
rep and just lived two houses down for me, and
so she would book these really expensive dinners at the
most expensive place in town. But if they didn't have
all the seats filled, they were gonna get paid for anyway.
She'd say, Hey, I got two extra seats. So we
would go in, eat the meals and hang around. And
(03:01):
sometimes I'd have to like kind of pretend I was
a doctor or something like that if somebody asked me
a question. But they were getting whined and dined at
the most expensive place in town with an open bar
and everything like that. To tell them about some drug
and there'd be a five minute slideshow about the drugs
and then you get like a three hundred dollars meal
for free. Oh I'd make hay with that opportunity. Man,
I turn to my left and say, what do you prefer?
(03:23):
Viruses or bacteria?
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Oh my god, to be at the same table with
you two pretending to be doctors.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I know. I was always dreading if somebody actually asked
me at fractures.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
There's something, aren't they. I don't know what I would say. Oh,
I tell you what. Yeah, I hate to see it,
but you got to.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Deal with it. Im wrong, So I told him, don't
do that anyway. Let's wait for the stake to show up.
Oh the other thing there, I knew there were there
were Actually there was another thing.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Now I've forgotten it.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I'm Joe Biden, Like man, I do notice when I
don't get enough sleep that I can't remember near as
well my sentences. Now this is in the middle and
I can't finish, can't remember the end. The oh, the
direct relationship between eating better and your your body changing
or getting better numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Even though that's obviously clearly.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
True, I'm always still somewhat surprised, like I eat really
good and look I'm a couple of pounds lighter, or
the opposite, I eat really bad and I'm a couple
of pounds every year. It's just, even though I know
it's true, to see it like in black and white
in front of me is always just a little something.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, it's like the old I feel better after a
drink or two the next morning than I did after
the night I had seven. I'll be damned, I've only
learned that lesson five million times.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Right, Anyway, what's your tail today, Michael? Okay, So here
we go. Yesterday had to get my teeth cleaned.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
And I have a very good dental hygienist who I've
had for years. She's really gentle, she does teeth well,
she doesn't no hurt, no pain.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
So I show up the dentist yesterday and it turns
out she's not there's and I had to know that.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
She goes.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
We have somebody else though, that will take you. And
so I get this person. And now you put it
this way, I'm still tasting blood today from them scraping.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
My brune Hilda the cruel. Yes, no, nobody in this
scenario speaks English. And it was in a garage and
rioal Linda correct, No, no, no, actual dental practice.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Actual dental practice, good place. But I don't know if
this was a new employee or what the deal was,
but uh, she was really rough. You know, you put
the tube in to suck the water out, and she
was just jamming it down there.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Oh wow, physical reaction. This was crazy. When did she leaves?
Speaker 6 (05:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And then I guess she got behind on our schedule,
and so the doctor had come to her and said, said,
you know, is he almost done?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
She goes, well, it's gonna be a few minutes, just
a few minutes.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And then all of a sudden, she starts putting the
polish on my teeth and rubbing as fast as she can,
starts grabs the water and just starts squirting my mouth.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know, just if it's just crazy. So wow, that's terrible.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So you a car was yeah, literally, so just we're
running out of times. So you picked up the poker
and you stabbed her with it, and you wonder what
were you in the right.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Somebody that doesn't like conflict. So I just held on
for dear life and I just put up with it,
and I'm fine, But I'm debating do I call him
and let them know, Hey, this person was really rough.
This is terrible because I got to go back there
in a few months and.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It was really painful. Well, you asked two questions.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The first one I've had before where it's like, the
last person's better at this, but I don't want to
make another appointment. I need to get this done now,
and so it's not just conflict avoid and it's like
the reality of trying to get the person you like better.
So that's that's one thing. But then the complain, Hell,
he is, I'm complaining.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
It was funny is during the whole procedure though, she goes,
I know you're just laying there. She goes, I take
that as a compliment. It means that I'm not hurting you.
And I'm thinking, is this a car? Are people saying
to her?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
If you do you scream? She thinks everything's going fine.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yes, that's a really weird thing, she said, that's so odd.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
I would definitely call Michael and maybe just say something
along the lines of could I not be with this
individual next time because that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Was a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, but I would go ahead and say why it
was extremely uncomfortable. It was the most painful cleaning I've
ever had say that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, that's that's perfectly reasonable to say.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
It's like when I used to talk about my man Pong,
the phlebotomist draw blood for me. I would always call
and see if Pong was there because he could do it,
or you didn't feel a thing, and I love Pong,
but he quit and uh, and other people aren't as good.
But I've never had anybody jab me in the side
of the year with the needle and say sorry about that.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
I just want her to look at me next time
I go and say, oh, you're the one that called.
You're the one that got me in trouble, or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
My brother don't think it would go like that.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I told the story years ago when my brother went
into the hospital is here and here in the local area,
and man, the president of the hospital, ended up meeting
me in the parking lot. After I told this story
on the air, they were so worried, but anyway, they
were trying to put an IV in my brother and
the guy just kept having to do it over and
over and over again and jab.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Him over and over again.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And my brother is incredibly stoic as a military dude
and all that sort of stuff. It's part of his
whole personality that he would never ever act like anything
hurt underneath circumstance.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But they really guy was it. And the guy actually
says to him, I'm sorry. Man.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I was at the casinos really late last night and
just kept Joe oh, and I.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Was like, dude, you gotta tell him. Nah.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
The only time I've ever had someone miss I. Oh, yeah,
it's good for you. Oh yeah, she missed three times
and I went three strikes and you're out.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You're done. I'm not doing this again.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
And I walked out, made another appoint This was before
it took eight months to get your blood drawn, though.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
But yeah, wow, wow.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
It's interesting because getting back to the whole doctors more
than dentists. But it's just in my lifetime, the whole
doctor patient relationship has evolved from I know you for
years and years. You're like my partner in health. There's
a great deal of respect for you. There's concern for me. Now,
it's more like getting a burger out of a fast
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food joint. To some extent, I've got a great doc
right now, but I too, I've had a couple that
were terrible, that were just they well, it was like
eating a burger from a fast food joint. So I
don't you know, Michael, I would. I would remember, you're
a customer who's paying a great deal for a service.
And there are other service providers and dentists are are
skilled people and they're caring.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And the rest of it. But they're not They're not gods,
they're not priests.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I don't think this would be a bad way to
handle you say, this is the deal I make with everybody.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Whatever you do to me, I'm gonna do to you.
Just keep that in mind. Yeah, that's an idea. I
brought my tools, and so you know, you might own
to think that over.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You show up with your own tool.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You do, and you say, I'm gonna give as much
pain as I get. Always get started.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
If it's to you, exactly, because your move ball is
in your court.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
If I feel nothing, you feel nothing, That's what I'll do.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I'll walk up to the receptionist, scrape your teeth a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Say does that hurt?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Guess what that's what she did to me? Bought your
host spray her with it right the face. How do
you like it? Eh? Okay, hold still, lady, you're gonna
feel a little pressure.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
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Speaker 3 (10:46):
Show Fancy Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our podcast One
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Speaker 7 (10:53):
We do a new one every day. Find it wherever
you find your podcasts. So maybe it became a of
this meme, this clip that went viral. As they do,
I'm gonna start saying that just to annoying people. The
clip went viral. Oh, let's start with the number six.
This is the lady standing next to the partition in
(11:15):
the plane, looking back toward the back section of the plane,
chewing somebody out.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
I'm telling you, and there's the reason why either believe
it or they should not believe it.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And I am.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Telling you right now there is not real and you
can tell it not. I'm not going to it's bett
a while now.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And I just saw a little bit of it and
there was something about the pitch of her voice.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I just thought, I'm out, So I haven't paid any
attention to it.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Attractive white girl pointing to the back of the plane, saying,
this m effort is not real.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
The best part is when the entire plane they all
turn around to look.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
At what is she talking about?
Speaker 9 (12:00):
What?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Not real? What do you mean? Not real? Not real?
And then she hit some with you can die on
this plane, but I'm not. I'm getting off. Who's not real?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
So you know it obviously lent itself beautifully to various
memes about you know, who was on the who was
in the plane that was not real?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Or what she.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Meant and that sort of thing. It exploded as those
things do. Well, here she is, I guess her name's Tiffany,
which perfect. She's explaining what the hell happened?
Speaker 9 (12:31):
First and foremost, I want to take full accountability for
my actions. They were completely unacceptable. Distress or not I
should have been. I should have been in control of
my emotions and.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That was not the case.
Speaker 9 (12:48):
My use of profanity was completely unnecessary, and I want
to apologize to everyone on that plane, especially those that
had children aboard. We all have her bad moments, some
far worse than others, and mine happened to be caught
on camera for the whole world to see multiple times.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Sorry, all right, sound like mini mouths.
Speaker 9 (13:14):
It has been really comic goal for everyone, and I
have highly enjoyed so many of the means. On the
flip side, it is very invasive and unkind, and I
don't know what I would do without the love and
support of my friends and family.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I hope they use this experience and you do a
little bit of good in the world.
Speaker 9 (13:37):
And that.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Planes.
Speaker 9 (13:40):
I hope that you guys can accept my apologies.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Please make it in now. You don't know me an apology.
I don't care now. I'd read that she got in
a dispute with some family members she was traveling with
about whether they stole her earbuds or EarPods or whatever,
and that it escalated the where it turned to this
plane's gonna crash, you're gonna die. I'm getting off. I
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don't know whether she was psychotic. She didn't sound drunk,
but she might be one of those people who sounds pretty,
you know, sharp, even when she's hammered.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Yes, no, I was just gonna say that video explained nothing.
She did not tell us how many acid tablets she
dropped before getting on that plane.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yes, she never got to the realness or lack thereof
of the gentleman in the back of the plane, which
is the is the thing and I didn't know is
apologizing for hilarious memes a thing? Now you have to
go and post a video where I take full responsibility
for this hilarious meme.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Ian what is that?
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I kind of felt bad for her because after this
video surfaced, you know, it went everywhere, and then the
next headline following was the Internet trying to figure out
who she was, right, So all these you know, Internet
sleuths were digging to get her information.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And now she finally, you know, she had.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
To block all of her stuff on social media, so
it was a headline on top of a headline.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So she was just trying to clear herself.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
God help you if you ever become one of these people,
because I'm sure it gets into They get into every
aspect of your life, and you know, what you did
in high school and your ex boyfriend from college and
everything else all of a sudden appears in the world.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But she did.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So is there still any explanation for the.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
The that mf or isn't real? Well, there's there's more
to the clip. That I don't know, but there's more
to the clip. You can sit on this plane and
you can effing die with them or not. I'm not
going to as we heard, she demanded that the crew
quote stop the plane, and the aircraft was brought back
to the gate and she was ejected.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
We've all had our bad moments, Joe. She takes full responsibility.
It's a good point.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
She then allegedly refused to leave the boarding area, continued
to rent while being escorted outside the terminal, where she
repeatedly scored officers insisted the plane would explode after takeoff.
She then snuck through security a couple of more times,
or attempted to, or went through security a couple more times,
and they kicked her out of the terminal.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Again.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
She's lucky she did this in twenty twenty three and
not in like twenty twelve, or she would have been
duct taped to the cargo hold of the plane back
when we took all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So seriously, how do you.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Get ejected from a flight and then get back through security?
How does that happen? Because aren't you on some list
or something.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Well, I don't know, she's just they said, look you
gotta get out of here go.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
She said, hey, then turn around, walked over to the
security again and went through again, got screened. Can I
hear the original clip again? Because that's that's that's new
to me, the whole He's not real, I'm telling.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
You, And there's the reason why.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Get everyone. Can you either believe it or you not
believe it? How And I am telling you right now.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
There is not real this plane and you can dive it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm not I'm not going to sour. Yeah, everybody's like,
who's not real? Who's not? Everybody back there looks real
to me?
Speaker 6 (17:01):
And the Internet, my gosh, it's totally the Internet I
signed up for. All these people were taking this video
and splicing it. So with that, I'm ever right there.
And then they turned the camera to themselves.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
They're like, I'm here is a good story. Oh boy,
the poor lady. I'm glad you took a responsibility though. Yeah,
that was good.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
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Speaker 2 (17:38):
By the way, Katie, I really like your T shirt.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, yeah, no it yeah no. So we got to
talking on the radio show about the editing of photos
just in general, because so many people do it and
it's so effortless.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Now I don't have the Google phone, but I.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Was just reading so the Wall Street Journal had an article,
when is it okay to alter the family photo? Who
doesn't alter big family photos? And if you didn't before
the but I mean, like back in the old days
when you'd go get a professional photo done and everything
like that, they were altering them for you.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
They were all brightening them up or list them or whatever.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
And se every every group photo I take, I make
sure everybody looks top notch because I don't want to
hear it afterwards.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Oh yeah, why did you post that one? I look
bad in that one?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Oh no, I went through. I made my best effort
to make.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
All of you look good.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
So doing what For instance, sometimes someone's eyes will be closed,
you can open them. Somebody's not smiling when they usually would,
you can give them a smile.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
What app or phone are you using to do that?
Face tune? Face tune? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
So the Google pixel thing. You've probably seen the ads.
It looks fantastic. But they've got a thing called best take,
where you do a blast of photos and then you
can pick each individual face. This is the best one
from this one. This is the best one in you know,
in a group photo. That's which sounds like was more
or less what they did there at Kensington Palace with
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the royal family. I'm surprised they don't have more sophisticated
software than they did.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
According to their statement, Prince Will, I don't even hardly
know these people's names, Prince Vine. Prince Will took the
picture last week and Kate edited, and then she edited it.
I guess like a lot of wives probably do if
their husband takes a bad photo.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
This whole thing is because there was a big conspiracy
theory that she was dead after this abdominal surgery she
had because she hadn't been seen in the public, and
now they're trying to find any reason they can to
keep that conspiracy alive.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I e.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
They edited this photo and she's not really around or something.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That's what I've been reading.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, okay, that's that's That doesn't explain all of the coverage,
but certainly some of it now well, I'm willing to
concede that I may be an outlier in this stuff,
you know, to Katie's point, I don't hang out with
people who'd give a single crap. I mean, unless they're
like I take a picture and in the background they're
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with their lover and their wife doesn't know about it.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
They might be worried about that. But so I out you. Certainly, Yeah,
they'd ask me to.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
But I've just I'm now, if we're talking about bringing
out a little contrast or something like that, a filter
because it was a little bright there or something, I mean,
that's just that's how you make decent looking photographs. But
like slimming people and you know, give them a better
smile or white in their teeth and stuff like that,
(20:44):
I just it makes me uncomfortable. I feel like it's
divorcing reality from perception in a way that's unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Do you ever do you ever slim people? Katie? No, No,
that's not that's not cool.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
But I see your point, Joe, as you're drawing a
lot line basically at contrast and lighting.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Well, Joe's drawing very bright lines between good people and
bad people. So we got to figure out which end
of the line. We're all all, this must be what
it's like to be in a hearing in Congress, So
we need to find out which side of Joe's good
people bad people line were on.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So you're okay with contrast and bright? We have a format? Okay, great?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
But yes, are you okay with the You got a
bunch of photos and you put the smile on everybody's
best smile in the photo.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Are you okay with that or not?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It seems ridiculous to me, Although if each of those
individual images existed, just not at the same time, I
will allow it. Like a fly lands on somebody's face
and you make a weird face trying to get the
fly off, and you're just gonna.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Leave it like that for that guy.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Or here's a question, what have you gained by and
what have you lost by not including that image?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
You are serving the idea of always looking unrealistic, beautiful
or or great, as opposed to capturing a moment where
something really funny had Well.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Speaking for myself, it's it's hard for me to wrap
my head around this because I don't have the motivation,
because I don't have any social media that I post
pictures on so nobody ever sees them but me and
other people in my family. Sometimes me and the kids
go through my phone. But so I'm not posting these
for any stuff. So maybe I would be more motivated
to if I posted these where anybody would see them.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But like, I know.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Someone who who who clearly uses the thinning thing whenever
they post pictures, because I see them on a regular basis,
and I know that that's not what they look like, and.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
That one I that I wonder about, I just think
that's fundamentally unhealthy. To thine own self be true is
like my my guiding principle for everything in life because
and it's not I'm not coming off as high handed.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I think I may be.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Better than some people at least at recognizing my weaknesses
and realizing you are really tempted to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
That's one of the things you really need to be
careful about.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
And one of them is, you know, self delusion or
you know, how would I put this? And I'm more
than willing to concede that I'm I may be an
outlier and a little bit weird about this, and you
live your own life.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I honestly don't care. I don't care enough about.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
The way you live your life to judge you unless
you're hurting other people. So don't take anything I say
as some sort of like Jack trying to frame it
as you're exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's probably you know what.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Honestly, that's probably a better way to frame this discussion.
It's more entertaining.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
This is called Joe's the jerk. I just what are
you doing?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Why are you doing that so people think you're better
looking than you are?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Why for dating apps? For if you're single and you're dating.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
If I was doing that, and I've never done online dating,
and I'm never going to a bit if I was,
got it be, I don't think I could stop myself
from just slightly slimming your face.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I mean, finely different questions. It is a completely posting
pictures of guys who weren't even me.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
That is a completely different question though, although at a
point though you're really misleading people. I mean, because I
have heard people talk about showing up to meet somebody
and it's like you're the same person from that photo.
Come on, yeah, I wouldn't want that. That would be hurtful.
I wouldn't want I wouldn't want that myself. I don't
want to meet somebody that I lured them in by
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making myself look different. They're like, whoa dude, how much
time did you spend editing that photo? But man, you
can I messed around with face tune a while just
to see what it was like. Then I don't even
have it anymore because I'm I'm not going to spend
that much time. But man, just it takes so little
effort to like slim your face just so, and you think, wow,
I look so much better with just that much effort.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
All right, here's here's the standard. And Katie cannot come
on this because she's super pretty. The like the best
non retouched photo of you, because we all have them.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Wow, I look good in that pic.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's as high as you can go.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
That's as handsome or pretty or whatever is a wi go.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
If all you're doing is bringing the photo up to
your best real photo, yes, that's not bad as a standard.
If you are exceeding the possibilities of a real photo
of yourself, then you're doing things in your mind that
are not healthy. If you change it to something you've
never actually looked that good, that that is a different category.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Unless again, you're trying to get laid, then anything goes Baby.
Here's a funny one.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I was disappointed that my Costco card expired because I
had a great picture on my Costco card.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
It's like one of my better pictures of me ever.
For so I had a driver's license once, I look
like an action star. Yes, my first driver's license was money.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
It all came together. I had a really good beard.
At that point, I looked at like a guy out
of the movies. Who would you know, is he turned
out to be, you know, some sort of master criminal?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So good?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
You know?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You know how if you end up in the news,
the media grabs like your driver's license photo and that
becomes the photo going everywhere. I've thought about that before
if something happened, and now the current driver's license photo
I have is just awful.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I wish I could get a change. That would be
the picture of what I look like for any story
you want. You want it to be your Costco card photo? Yes, yes,
if you have to.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
If something happens where I end up with the news,
good or bad, use my Costco card.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You let your Crossco card expire? Yeah? Somehow?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Okay, So why don't we go through a checklist of
different Go ahead, Michael, did you have more criticism?
Speaker 9 (26:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know, do you let your kids starve too? That
was j Yeah, yeah, a boy, that's what I was.
That's what I was open for, Michael.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
All right, So it throw out scenarios and I'll rule
whether they're okay. For instance, family picture, your kid has
acne problems and is super sensitive about it.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
M they're super sensitive about it. That's different the.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Family picture like the one that's gonna go on the
wall in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Maybe a Christmas card.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
See, I'd be okay with it because that acne isn't forever.
You're going to grow up, and if they want that
picture up the way, you know, then.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It is strictly speaking, a disease.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I realize that makes it sound more serious than it,
but it can be very serious for people and the
way they feel about themselves.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Certainly for my own personal use the pictures my phone.
I've never altered my kids to make them look better ever, not.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
One, no, no, yeah, I want to know what looks
like right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Me, on the other hand, what do you want to
do with me? Ever?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Using slimming software? Now, other than like for dating functions.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I never have for real, I don't think I ever
would except for dating situations. But so you know, all
of this is there are lots of gray areas you're
I guess some men do this too, but women do
it more. I think you're wearing some sort of slimming garment.
How's that different if you're wearing a slimming garment under
your dress at the wedding. Isn't that How's that different
(28:29):
than if you use the photoshop to slim yourself a
little bit?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Why?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Well, because it's it's possible in the real world.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
So that's your standard again, is if you could get
yourself to look like that in the real world.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
You know, it's funny between the radio show and recording this,
I went and got some more ice water from the
kitchen and just everybody's getting ready and all right, let's go.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Do the podcast.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I've been thinking hard about all the things we've talked
about today, and I've got to form it all into
a unified philosophy. And it's going to be something like
I'm a realistarian or something like that, because the only
thing that's going to keep me from becoming like an
angry nihilist, because I think the artificial world, the virtual world,
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is incredibly unhealthy and is drawing humanity and individual people
into just terrible psychological places and addictions and self hatred
and suicide and depression and anxiety. I think it is
so effing unhealthy. We have not scratched the surface of it.
But the only way I can live in that world
is if I have an alternative that I'm focused on,
(29:36):
and it's going to be something about anything that departs
from what is real more than.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Just a little bit I'm just going to reject.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, I wonder I wonder if that'll happen for anybody
on the younger end, though, like Katie, you're younger, so
wouldn't smartphones come out you're a kid?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Probably on no, I was graduating.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
If you're If you're a young person, especially women, but
if you've never lived in a world where you couldn't
easily manipulate your photos and make yourself a better look better.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
How would you ever?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Not to answer your question, which I think is a
really interesting one, whether young people will you know, go
along with what I'm talking about or ever get a
chance to the answer is clearly yes.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
One hundred percent. Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
The question is how many I read something interesting the
other day, twenty somethings who have jettison TikTok and other
social media and how happy they are. Now, that's not
like seventy million in the United States, but it's thousands.
And just like you know, whether you want to cite
Christianity or healthy eating or regular exercise or whatever, just
(30:43):
because most people aren't is not a good reason to
stop advocating for what's good and what's healthy.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
But if I'm on the losing side again, that's fine.
I can live with that.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I was just singing for young people altering their photos,
one they will have always had that in their lives.
And two you kind of always are on a dating
app when you're It seems to me from observing social
media for young people, your life is a dating app.
It's an interesting point. Yeah, so the point you're going
to be adjusting your phone. I mean, how you couldn't
have stopped me and like if I hit whereas in
(31:15):
high school now from altering my photos to make myself
look better?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Not a chance you couldn't stop me with a gun
from altering my photos to make myself look better.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Oh wow, what.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
If you had an uncle that had well, he was
a pirate and he had a peg leg, would you no,
or put a different type of leg on there, like
herrot on his shoulder?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, of course it's an odd scenario. Michael.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
What's your pirate uncle's name? It's hard for me to
go forward without a name.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Art. Oh god, I'm really sorry about that. Wow, I
was right hurt. The brush this out of the podcast.
I'm really sorry about that. Shiver me timbers. He gave
me scurvy with that one. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
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Speaker 2 (32:29):
Can I say this? Well, of course I can say this.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
A friend who I work with, His wife is an obstetrician.
The stories she has heard amaze and the tattoos she
has seen, oh what, including one one woman.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I think I can tell this story. I'm sure you can.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Should I though, Oh man, she's gonna want to get
him in trustle So we're talking about tattoos on the you.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Who oh my god, or in the you who will
region the sympathy pain I'm feeling right now.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Is side even without the pain, just as a lifestyle choice, right,
and sometimes it's just in the suburbs, but not in
the city center.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
But can I say this, you know what, I can't
say it. I'm gonna make this up completely. This is
Joe Getty lying and creating fiction that is in no
way based on any truth ever spoken by anybody. One
gal who is well on in years, had a boxing
(33:38):
glove to either side and the caption hit it like
a champ.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
No, she, oh my god, it's like a champ.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
So then you have to think as a dude or
a woman. I guess if she's a lesbian. But your
first you know, you become intimate after months of dating
and courting and then of course marriage, you decide.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
To decide you love each other very much.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You decide to become intimate, and this is the first
time you become aware of your the love of your life. Uh,
having it too. That's hit it like a champ. Unless
that tattoo is like a week old. I'm gonna have
questions it's.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Just reeks of class, you know. Yeah, what do am I? Hm?
How disturbed am I at that point? Am I thinking
maybe not?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Or you're not who I thought you were? Or and yes, Michael,
do you bring a boxing bell to bed? We'll get ready. Yeah,
you do that whole thing round. What was that a
statement of kind of general principle or was that like
a specific message to.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
A lover of her past? I would have questions?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
So, baby, I can't help, but notice you've I'm had
a whole set of to two.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
That's my goal, regardless of your signage.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Anyway, you didn't, I don't tell me to do that, right,
right exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
It's extraneous motivation.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
This is reminding me that's my general practice, right, This
is reminding me of one of the funniest things. So
my mother got a tattoo for her fiftieth birthday and
it is a dolphin that is jumping over a shamrock.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
And her big line.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Was like, yeah, in fifteen years, it'll be an eel
stuck in a pine tree.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Wow. The comedy stylings of Katie's mom. She's fantastic. So
does this where were we?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
So?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Does this made up? Doctor? Yes? Find a way to.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I just need to check my messages real quick, and
then you kind of lean your phone this wing
Speaker 1 (35:53):
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