July 30, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 3 of the Tuesday July 30, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- Just Diane & Mainstreaming Cannibalism...
- Next Door Advice...
- Playground Bullies Prosper...
- The Greatest Laugh!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio and the
George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Getty arm Strong, and Gatty Enough, Pee.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Armstrong and Getty Strong, and hey we're I'm Strong and Getty.
We're featuring our podcast One more Thing. Find it wherever
you find all your podcasts.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I was fascinated by that python farm story the other day.
I actually dug into that, did a little reading, you know,
because pythons are big and giant and meaty and and
they're like super efficient with the way they turn calories
into muscle mass, and they taste like chicken.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I got a question about that, But when I get
to the cannibalisma, I'll I'll hit you with it, all right,
all right, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So after the show, before we started recording this, Hanson
replayed a clip of me saying something rather dry about Jack,
and Jack commented, that's a very I'm just Iyane thing
to say. And I was reminded of a longtime listener
to the show and hilarious tweeter I'm just Diane, and
(01:10):
I went digging into our Twitter feed. She doesn't tweet
as much as she used to, I think, which is
a shame for humanity.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But she's had grown up with a job now and
it's not easy. You should follow her, Katie, if you've
never checked out, I'm just Diana. I am on her now.
She is a listener we became aware of a long
time ago. And she's very funny. Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Her pinned tweet is I'd rather go home than go big,
which I agree with. How perfect is that? And then
somebody tweeted the the Nancy Pelosi this is not an
attempt to pan TikTok, It's an attempt to make TikTok better,
tic tac toe a winner, a winner. Her comment has
simply nailed it. Oh boy, man, I love understatement.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Oh looking forward to the day my new phone stops
autocorrecting vaping to raping.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh boy. Her best stuff is how much she hates
her job and her coworkers. But that's a different topic.
So New Scientists is a real science outfit, and they're
trying to take another look at cannibalism, and they mention
these bones that were found in a cave in southwest
(02:26):
England which beared all the marks of cannibalism. It is
pretty clear that cannibalism was going on their teeth, marks
on the bones and the way. I won't get into details.
It's pretty gross. But and this was fourteen, seven hundred
years ago, that they were practicing cannibalism there in England.
To Rotein's protein baby, that's what I say today, they
(02:47):
write in New Scientists. Today, cannibalism is a taboo subject
in many societies. We see it as aberrant as a
clear in film such as the Texas Chainsaw massacre. We
associate it with zombies, psychopaths, and serial killers like hannibal Lecter.
Positive stories about cannibals are few and far between. I
would agree with you there, I haven't heard one of those. Wait,
(03:07):
what a child's book about cannibalism? Or Jimmy is a
good guy like to golf, he treated his family well,
and he was a cannibal. He'll be missed. Yeah, but
perhaps it's time for a rethink because despite our preconceptions,
evidence is accumulating that cannibalism was a common human behavior.
(03:28):
Our ancestors have been eating each other for a million
years or more. In fact, so was torture for years
in the years, for centuries. But that doesn't mean we
should reconsider it. What a bizarre story this is. In fact,
it seems that down the ages, around a fifth of
societies have practiced cannibalism. While some of these people, while
some of this people eating may have been simply to survive.
(03:52):
In many cases, the reasons look more complex. In places
like this cave in southern England, for example, consuming bodies
of the dead seems to have part of a funerary ritual,
something they did when people died. Far from a monstrous
affront to nature, cannibalism may have been a way of
showing respect and love for the dead, say archaeologist. No,
(04:12):
uh yeah, no, no.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Whoever wrote this needs to be investigated. He's like trying
to sell this.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't like it, right. He's trying to soften a
revelation that may occur someday about the barrels in his
exactly exactly. He's trying to set the table cannibalism. We
need to reconsider it.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I just watched a horrible horror movie about cannibalism where
these guys invite a bunch of people over to their
house for a dinner party, and they're serving them the victims,
but they don't know it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Would Jim ember watch episodes of Hannibal, the prequel to
Silence of the Lambs. Yes, Oh, my god, when he
would when he would sit down at the table in
his suit, with his fine wine and his beautiful home
and start slicing off pieces of liver that he cooked up. God,
that was gross dinner table. Do you think because like you,
you're so you're talking the other day about the snakes
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and how that might become a meat of the future,
And I said, you because the idea of eating a
snake disgusts me. There's something about eating a reptile that
I find.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And I've had snake, I've had alligator, there are multiple
I've had it, but I don't want to it's gross.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Alligator was great. It's just fried meat. Say that's all right,
but could could you eat human? No? No, that's repugnant, repulsive.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Wi.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
It's an instinctive horror. I think now the concept of
it being a funerary ritual. Does anybody have anything else
they'd like to say about Jim? Okay, well, then we're
passing out knives and forks. If we could all make
our way to the casket.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, I got one more thing to say about Jimmy
looks delicious. Now that's some marbling. I mean, I know,
I know he didn't exercise much, but that is some
delicious looking marbling. Nice rub for it, Sid.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
If you heard me, I think did I tell this
on the air? I can't remember my favorite joke now,
which also takes place at a funeral.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
If you've heard this before, forgive me, but it's short. Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
It's a funeral and uh, and people are talking about
the dearly departed, and the widow stands up and says,
is there anybody else who'd like to say a word?
The guy stands up, he said I would, and he
says plethora. Then he sits down, and the widow says,
thank you, jim That means a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yes, that is a good one I have.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Actually, you've told that before, and I wrote it down
to tell it to somebody else, and then I never did,
so thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I'll pass it on. Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
The beauty of that joke is you think the punch
your line is that he just says one word.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, there's a twist and a twist.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
My love.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It caught the twist done. Oh go good twist. That's funny.
So back to cannibalism. I'm guessing that we're designed to
be disgusted by it only because most of human history
people have been starving. And if you weren't disgusted by it,
I mean, if you if you thought of eating another
human the same way you thought of eating a cow,
we would have all eaten each other. I mean, just
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the strongest would have survived and eaten each other, and
the societies that didn't find it up hurt and died
out pretty quickly because of that. That'd be my evolutionary guess.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, and we're just like an epidemiological reason why it's
a bad idea because obviously humans can catch human diseases,
but I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I suppose that's possible, but you know, we've mostly been
starving throughout history. If you weren't disgusted by it, and like,
the only the only way you could possibly do it
is if you're you know, the Donner Party, and you're
all starving to death. And many of them didn't participate,
they went ahead and starved before they did it. If
it was okay with you, yeah, people would have turned
to that right away. Yeah, I know, Jim. We all
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hate Jim. Let's eat him.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I tell you what though, It's it's all about the
method of preparation, because like, I'm not gonna have human
sushi or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's too much. I'm a medium rare guy, but I'm
going well done on Jim.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, and I'm like, maybe he smoked all day, like a.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Long maybe jerky even I want it really clicked. Could
it be like a company.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Could it be like a sandwich, or maybe like a
rap or something.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So it's not just that, yeah, you know what I mean.
I don't want it like tender and falling off the femur.
I just say, oh, like a turkey leg you know,
you see it the fair because I'm diabetic. That's right,
You're at the fair and you're eating a human legs.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Got that footstill, see that's disgusting point.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So we'll see if this catches on and if New
Scientific is successful in their effort to I don't know,
mainstream cannibalism.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I guess you know what the world we're in right now,
it wouldn't shock me, right right you.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
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Speaker 4 (09:21):
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One More Thing, Get it wherever you like to get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I've been familiar with next door for a long time,
but I'd never had the notifications on where I would
get where i'd get the regular everything everybody posts? Good God?
Is that a smorgus board of unimportant? It is? Question?
It is the forum of first world problems? What it is?
It's it's a combination of like first world problems that
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you really don't need to mention out loud to anyone,
and uh, and like big problems.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
That there are much better venues for finding.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
The answer, like my you know, my dad has got
this disease. My dad's got Parkinson. He happened to be president.
Does anybody recommend a good doctor You're going on next
door for that? Is that your best place to try
to figure out these things? It just seems odd to me.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Yeah, I guess nobody ever responds, So I don't know
why everybody's fishing in this pond. I could see asking
for a recommendation of like a service provider or something
like that. I wouldn't ask what medicine do you think
he ought to take? Or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Or you know, a football is in my backyards, they
may know it belonged to That was one this morning.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Oh boy, I saw one the other day that somebody
took a picture off of a ring camera of a
kid that doorbell ditched him, and they posted the video
on next door, going, who is kid?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is this right? Right? Lots of those, lots of those,
lots of did anybody just hear that noise? Well, that
happens like ten times a day? And then various responses.
I did too. I thought it sounded like a gun.
It didn't. That's not like a gun. It sounded like
more okay, whatever. But here's my favorite one from today
that got me on this very topic. Here's another one.
Somebody asking about shingles. Find a medical professional or weib
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MD or something not next door that you're.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Talking about roof depiltating, a nerve pain or exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I'm talking about the disease. Here's my favorite one. Uh,
does anybody know what I should do with this crow?
It has a hurt wing. It lands between our houses.
I'm trying. I'm trying to I'm trying to nurse it
back to health. It keeps hopping around and I don't
know what to do with it.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
You got to put the whip to it. It's not
trying hard enough. What should I do with it?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Call it a sissy and tell it to try harder.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Right, exactly, tell it? Good Lord helps crows that help themselves?
Just like, is it like the new Google for your neighbors?
I don't understand why people are utilizing that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, all right, that's what I'm saying. And you don't
have Google or any of the other search engines for
figuring stuff out, or even TikTok or whatever you do.
You go to the next door with the other eighty
year old. Nothing else to do is to answer your question.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's just I just shocked by And I've
always wondered this about when I didn't live in a
neighborhood for like twenty years.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But now I'm in a neighborhood. Every neighborhood I've ever
lived in, pretty much, there are quite a few houses
where you know who lives there, even if you don't
know know them, you see them on a regular basis,
getting in their car, kid, coming home on a bike, whatever.
But there's always several houses where you just never see anybody.
Yeah ever, ever, you never see anybody ever. Somebody lives there.
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Lights get turned on at night off in the morning,
and that must be the crowd that's on next door
asking about crows or medical questions or whatever. It must
be that crowd.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
You gotta go on next door and say, hey, has
anybody ever seen anybody come out of the blue house?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Just start asking really weird questions on there. Jack, that'd
be perfect.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Hey, speaking of asking advice, I thought this was so
interesting and it makes sense in my head. See if
it does to you. It's new research out about getting advice,
asking for advice, that sort of thing, and this, Elizabeth
Bernstein writes, we tend to believe the best person for
support during a tough time will always be someone who's
been there before.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Turns out that's wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
New research shows we make get better help from people
who've been through a significant challenge that's different from our own.
Because social scientists say this is because those who have
been through an unrelated challenge can empathize with our emotional pain,
but they won't assume they know what our experience is
like or bring their own emotional baggage to the conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh, hu's great, that is interesting. I think that one over.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Meanwhile, somebody who's quote unquote been there before some times
talks more than they listen. They may also give advice
solely based on their experience and forget that ours is
going to be different. And because they got already got
over the problem, they think we should too, and tend
to minimize how painful the situation is.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
My main advice with big things that I've been through
is usually having been through this, don't listen to anybody's advice.
That's about my only advice on a number of big things.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Wow wow, interesting a cynical man or an experienced man.
Sometimes you don't know. Sometimes someone you don't know well
may have different life experiences that you can draw upon.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You never know what people know until you ask. Well, like,
that's the advice I give on my cancer experience, because
I've had a number of people ask me who get cancer,
and I say, don't take anybody's advice, because everybody's situation
is so incredibly different. I heard so many things it
turned out not to be true. I'd have been better
off if I never asked. Everybody's situation is miles apart
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and changes on a daily basis, So don't worry about
it and child rearing, while not the same as that,
because there are some truths to child wearing, definitely, but man,
there's a lot of I don't know, what are you
telling me this for when it comes to child wearing.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Also, yeah, a lot of people are trying to express
their own how to put this, work out their own issues,
or exhibit their own egos or something, because kids are.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So different and then the parents interaction with the kid
is so different. It's just, yeah, it's hard to normalize
a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, maybe the worst advice giver is somebody who's raised
a kid, because to the beginning of this article, they're
completely convinced that their experience is universal. I'm not talking
about all of you that have had one child. Obviously
some of you have wisdom, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You'd exactly be what she was describing. Yep, I because
I've got that situation. It ends up if I just
if I'd only had one of them, I would think
I was the world's greatest parent and be willing to
lay out all kinds of advice and maybe write a book.
If I don't lay at the other one, I would
think I'm a disaster.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, I heard that So final note on this, which
I found interesting was the power of weak ties. Conversations
with people that you have weak ties with can be
surprisingly helpful. They don't know us well, they don't know
our false They're less likely to judge us or make
assumptions about our situation or something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I've had many experiences like this. Are much more likely
to be a fellow, like a brainstormer, than a bestower
of alleged wisdom. They're much more likely to listen and
toss out ideas with you than try to lay the
law down. This is the guy sitting next to you
at the bar or the bus stop or whatever.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I've had this experience many times in my life, and
it works both directions. They don't have any particular agenda
because they don't know you and you don't you don't
They can say things that if somebody who did know
you said them, you'd get furiously angry. But because you
don't know them at all and have nothing invested, you
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can just hear what they have to say. Yeah, the
power of weak ties thought provoking. Yeah, ask a stranger.
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Speaker 4 (17:37):
You don't know this, probably, but Jack and I have
had a long running and bitter dispute.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I really like.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Appetizers if I'm out to eat or whatever he's got,
like he's a member of ISIS, He's got this militant
anti appetizer belief.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's stupid. Just have the meal. Have the meal. You
don't need to have appetizers. And anyway, I.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Won't go any further because again we're not bad mouthing him, okay,
and is insane and unsupportable, some would say idiotic beliefs.
But Jack is anti appetizer. I, on the other hand,
love appetizers, and in fact, Judy and I went to
a breast cancer fundraiser just last night and I bought
at probably excessive cost, but it wasn't a purchase, it's
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a donation. I bought an appetizer of the month club
membership in which some of the gifted chefs associated with
this community slash.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It was a golf club.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
They deliver to your home like a gourmet appetizer once
a month.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Oh, I know, that's awesome. I know.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
So like I'll say, yeah, can we do it this
coming Friday, And they'll say absolutely, And they'll show up
with like this brilliantly crafted stuffed mushrooms or something like that.
It's a great excuse to have like friends over for
a glass of wine and stuff and we get the credit.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh that is so cool. No, I know it.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Okay, So what kind of things do they offer?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
So stuff mush rooms obviously, are there other Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I realized that this the very term has a negative connotation,
but I don't know why they did, like a super
delicious cheeseball, one of those big cheeseballs you dig in
with the knife and put it on crackers.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But it was like home crafted. Oh cheeseball, Those are
big cheeseballs. Yeah, that sounds awesome to me.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, and a friend, a friend of ours, actually bought
this last year. And I can't remember what else there
like a shrimp thing and various cannapis whatever that is,
but just super yummy like gourmet appetizers.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah. See this sounds like I'm me Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Well, I mean and particularly I mean it was several
hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Again, it's a donation out a purchase.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
But when you look at what you spend, like go
out for a nice dinner now, especially if you have
a bottle of wine or something that crap.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So anyway, I'm happy to contribute.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Judy actually she quilted a thing, a golf cart seat
cover that fits like custom fits around the little what
do you call it, the hip rest things to keep
you from sliding off the end of it. Anyway, so
we made a nice donation to It's a nice nice
fundraiser anyway. The game across this article playground bullies do
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prosper and go on to earn more in middle age.
This is a five decade study that's thorough.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Brits.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Children who displayed aggressive behavior at school, such as bullying
or temper outbursts, are likely to earn more money in
middle age, according to a five decade study that upends
the maxim that bullies do not prosper. Any reaction to that, Katie,
off the top of your head.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I can kind of see where they're going with this,
because the people that are more outspoken maybe going further
in business rather than the meek that get picked on.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I can see that.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, this is one of the reasons I'm so militant
about in schools not making little boys act like little girls,
nor should you make little girls act like little boys.
Let them be themselves, but the idea that you're just
sit still and be quiet and just like the girls
are doing. Because as a youth coach, mostly in soccer,
I coach baseball and softball a little bit too, but
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observing the difference between boys and girls. And then I
coached gosh, I coached eight year old boys, ten year
old boys, twelve year old boys, that sort of range,
and then fourteen year old girls was the oldest I
ever coached. But I would watch ten year old boys
and there are like fifteen guys on the team, right,
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So it's a nice selection of different sorts of human beings.
And you could see, Okay, that kid is going to
be a dynamic leader, but at age ten, he's obnoxious
because he has the tool, but he doesn't know how.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
To wield it properly. That's a great point. Yeah, just
and I wish.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
I'd thought about this more, but I could give you
more examples of just they're all diamonds in the rough.
I mean, some of them are probably going to end
up in jail or beating their spouse or something like that.
I mean, not everybody's a diamond, but they're they're too
much of everything. But that's how you end up, I
think with a good man. It's very rare that a
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meek Well, no, I don't want to I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Overstate this because some people are just introverts.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
But we need to get back to boys will be boys,
and that that's saying has been perverted to mean allegedly
so they can do anything they want. But no, that's
not what that saying means at all. It means you
have to put up with the excesses of boyhood to
end up with good men. Now I'm a poor bullying
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but go ahead.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
No, I like what you said too about they have
the tool, they just don't know how to use it yet.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Because you do.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
You might see a leader in this ten year old,
but that not yet because right now they don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Yeah, they're they're loud and obnoxious, yeah, or they bully
for instance. Now, some bullies remain bullies in their a
holes and I hate them and I hope they go
to prison. But some people, you know, this is if
I haven't told this story in ages. I remember the
first time I told this story. Now, Gladys, do you
play the harp when I'm thinking about I'm looking back
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at telling a story.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
About looking back? Yeah, she's there for do you play
the harp twice? Or how did that work? Doesn't he
just go ahead and start talking?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
So I was, uh, I was having this argument with
a frenemy. Okay, he I was like the pitcher on
the baseball team, high school baseball team, and he was
the catcher, and he was a really good catcher, really
good ballplayer. But he and I had this like two
alpha dogs thing going on, and so there was respect
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and all.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But we clashed.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
We clashed a fair amount, and we got We got
into it one time verbally and he said to me,
and I wish I had I wish I had written
the quote down.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
He said.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Something like, I'm not even going to get into it
with you because you'll cut me to bits. And I
thought he sees my verbal ability as a tool of
meanness and cruelty. And I thought, I don't want to
be that guy ever again. I don't want to. I mean,
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unless somebody's got a coming. I decided, Okay, I have
the ability to hurt people with words, I am never
going to do that to an innocent victim. And maybe
I've lapsed at times of loss of temper or what
have you in the intervening years, but I've never thought
of myself. Part of it is I never thought of
myself as a bully, because I would never hurt anybody physical, right.
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But I realized at that moment he used me as
some sort of verbal bully, and I thought, I'm not
going to be that and so, and I hate that.
This is painful for me to admit that I might
have kind of been that quote unquote bully who then
grew up to not be a bully as an adult.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
That's interesting because when you said what when you quoted
what he said, I heard it as like you were
you have more of a verbal ability than him, Not
that you're cruel with your words, but that you you
could verbally take him if you guys were to get
into an argument.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Right, right, I guess I guess The subtlety of it
is I always saw it as like winning an argument
as opposed to leaving a victim. Okay, well, it's you know,
like the typical adolescent. It was self centered. I looked
(26:10):
at it from my point of view. I win, and
I spanked him and sent him running. Yeah, but I
hadn't developed the compassion to really see it from the
other person's perspective. And like I say, if it's somebody
trying to, for instance, you know, like push experimental sex
change procedures on children, I'll rip them apart. If I can,
I will turn every skill I have full blast for
(26:36):
the kid's sake. But like I said, no, no, nobody
who doesn't have it coming, I just won't do that.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah, And recognizing that about yourself too is a big
thing because I have a very similar I like to
call it a sharp.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Tongue, especially when I hear that at all.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
No, I don't have that one bit.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
But that's something that I've been working on my whole life.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Is realized.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Yo, Okay, cool it because I know that once it
takes off, bad news bears.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Right, right, You don't punch everybody who deserves it. Yeah,
And you don't, you know, strip them naked with your
verbiage if they don't deserve it either, even though you.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Can, and when they do, they'll always it fun.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
So Now the temper outburst thing is interesting. They found
an increase in teachers observations of conduct problems such as
temper outbursts or bullying or teasing other children, was associated
with an increase in earnings of nearly four percent of
any given rise in conduct problems for boys or girls.
That compares to a six percent rise for higher cognition
(27:43):
skills and so as a measure of who's going to
do well, at least financially an old boy, Now that
I think about it, that's an interesting way to measure
this anyway, But being like hot tempered is almost as
good an indicator of being successful in life is being smart.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, based off how they put it.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, yeah, Wow, it's forty percent of six Well, I
guess you could say fifty percent more likely, but you
see my point. Further, an analysis showed that by age sixteen,
those with conduct problems were more sociable as teenagers and
were more likely to smoke and be arrested at some
point in their lives.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Oh there's that. Wow. So is it just being more
dynamic in general? I do not know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
They point out, many people, many successful people, have had
various problems in school, like Winston Churchill, various folks expelled, suspended,
who ended up being famous or successful or what have you.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well like in today's news.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I mean, look at Trump, He's considered a bully.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
He's probably didn't like that his whole life. Yeah, I
think he's still a bully. It's one of the things
I don't particularly like about him.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
But I was thinking about Steve Jobs, genius, but I've
heard he was a complete bully.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Oh yeah, that's right at when. Yeah, I was picturing
his youth, but yeah, running apple he was absolutely was.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
You know, maybe this boils down to and this is
an old, old message. Don't make kids sit still and
be quiet and all act the same, because they're not
the same. There's a cynical view of education that modern
education exists purely to turn people into rule following drones.
(29:39):
And you know, I certainly hope that's I know a
lot of gifted teachers and that's not what they're trying
to do. But just to what, to whatever extent, that's
what's happening. Resist that, Yeah, a big yick. Yeah, we
need more kids who end up smoking and getting arrested,
because the other ones will be Winston tr I think
(30:00):
that's our takeaway here? What something like that nail?
Speaker 6 (30:03):
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Speaker 2 (30:19):
Your sweatshirt either says I p A or E p A.
I assume it says I p A like the beer,
and not E p A like the you're not wearing
a sweatshirt that you wouldn't catch me dead in an
EPA swatcher Environmental Protection Agency swag.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I was just gonna say how many how many agency
government agencies have swag?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I know the CIA and FBI do do they like
for public purchase?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, absolutely cool. I might have to get some of that.
I wear my FBI swag all the time and arrest people. Oh,
I'm gonna get the CIA stuff. I need you to
open your trunk. I bring them to justice. Open the trunk. Please,
you make lights on your car too, so you can rely.
Who are you? All questions? He opened the trunk? Can
I see your badge? Can I see your hands behind
(31:05):
your back? And then I tough them? Uh so this
I hope, I hope this works. What I'm about to
do here? I came across this last night, and I
laughed out loud several times. So it's a guy with
a kind of funny laugh and this is pretty long.
He speaking a different language. I don't even know what
(31:26):
language it is, but I don't speak it. But it
was still funny, and I could pick up on the
universal cadence of telling a story. And then he starts
laughing about the story and then filling in more details
and continues to laugh, and the other guy's laughing, and
it just and then like you know, and then you
won't believe this, and then they I guess that's what
(31:48):
he's saying. I don't know. I don't speak the language.
But if this is funny to you the way it
was to me, I think it says something about humor
or because I've often thought people that are really really funny,
they don't they don't even need words. Their timing is
so good. The joke doesn't even have to don't even
have to be a joke. The timing is so perfect.
It's funny just with the timing. Yeah, I suppose anyway,
(32:13):
we'll see if this is funny or not. You're not
supposed to understand what this person is saying. He's telling
the story ran loud, Michael Chank, Philip, Now we're gonna
maybe chan intermoth the inter up on the bottle you
(33:05):
got come up to me? He goes, Yeah, they drop into.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
My let me.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
There, I got that. Yeah, I said, tell you.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Dude is amused. I think, first of all, I would
like to have somebody translate that story to me, because
I just feel like at some point it was like
and then, no, you won't believe this that she walks
in with a canary on her head. Yet her husband
turns around and he says, but then the dog comes
(34:08):
into the room and hold on, I'm not done.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I just hope the translation of that story isn't they
were complaining about how loud my party was, so I
went to their home and murdered them all.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Or it's incredibly yeah, it's incredibly graphic sexually or something.
I mean just like racist or something. Yeah, oh my god,
the record, We got no idea what Bro was saying.
And maybe you should have run this by somebody who
speaks whatever language that is before snapping this out. Now, yeah, yeah, exactly.
(34:42):
Jesus could be the most racist, sexist, overtly horrifying joke
you've ever heard in your life, and.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Then the nazis, Oh, don't even say it.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Boy, dude's laugh was just insane. It's not that was it. No,
that's not the end of it. Sounds like it must
have about a heck of a joke.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I think his laugh might have been what was making
you laugh, because it just just his laugh itself was
was funny?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Well, yeah, I was. Clearly the infectious laugh had something
to do with it. I would like to have the
slightest idea what this story was about, because it's got
many tags, and just when you think it's over, it's not.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Oh yeah, exactly, yeah that her husband, Her husband says, no, seriously,
this is what he said, right. Uh yeah, I wonder
can we run that through Google trains figure out what
sort of horror we've unleashed over.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
The closet and his mom is standing there and it
just keeps going and going.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
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Speaker 4 (00:25):
I was fascinated by that python farm story the other day.
I actually dug into that, did a little reading, you know,
because pythons are big and giant and meaty and and
they're like super efficient with the way they turn calories
into muscle mass, and they taste like chicken.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I got a question about that, But when I get
to the cannibalisma, I'll I'll hit you with it, all right,
all right, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So after the show, before we started recording this, Hanson
replayed a clip of me saying something rather dry about Jack,
and Jack commented, that's a very I'm just Iyane thing
to say. And I was reminded of a longtime listener
to the show and hilarious tweeter I'm just Diane, and
(01:10):
I went digging into our Twitter feed. She doesn't tweet
as much as she used to, I think, which is
a shame for humanity.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But she's had grown up with a job now and
it's not easy. You should follow her, Katie, if you've
never checked out, I'm just Diana. I am on her now.
She is a listener we became aware of a long
time ago. And she's very funny. Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Her pinned tweet is I'd rather go home than go big,
which I agree with. How perfect is that? And then
somebody tweeted the the Nancy Pelosi this is not an
attempt to pan TikTok, It's an attempt to make TikTok better,
tic tac toe a winner, a winner. Her comment has
simply nailed it. Oh boy, man, I love understatement.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Oh looking forward to the day my new phone stops
autocorrecting vaping to raping.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh boy. Her best stuff is how much she hates
her job and her coworkers. But that's a different topic.
So New Scientists is a real science outfit, and they're
trying to take another look at cannibalism, and they mention
these bones that were found in a cave in southwest
(02:26):
England which beared all the marks of cannibalism. It is
pretty clear that cannibalism was going on their teeth, marks
on the bones and the way. I won't get into details.
It's pretty gross. But and this was fourteen, seven hundred
years ago, that they were practicing cannibalism there in England.
To Rotein's protein baby, that's what I say today, they
(02:47):
write in New Scientists. Today, cannibalism is a taboo subject
in many societies. We see it as aberrant as a
clear in film such as the Texas Chainsaw massacre. We
associate it with zombies, psychopaths, and serial killers like hannibal Lecter.
Positive stories about cannibals are few and far between. I
would agree with you there, I haven't heard one of those. Wait,
(03:07):
what a child's book about cannibalism? Or Jimmy is a
good guy like to golf, he treated his family well,
and he was a cannibal. He'll be missed. Yeah, but
perhaps it's time for a rethink because despite our preconceptions,
evidence is accumulating that cannibalism was a common human behavior.
(03:28):
Our ancestors have been eating each other for a million
years or more. In fact, so was torture for years
in the years, for centuries. But that doesn't mean we
should reconsider it. What a bizarre story this is. In fact,
it seems that down the ages, around a fifth of
societies have practiced cannibalism. While some of these people, while
some of this people eating may have been simply to survive.
(03:52):
In many cases, the reasons look more complex. In places
like this cave in southern England, for example, consuming bodies
of the dead seems to have part of a funerary ritual,
something they did when people died. Far from a monstrous
affront to nature, cannibalism may have been a way of
showing respect and love for the dead, say archaeologist. No,
(04:12):
uh yeah, no, no.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Whoever wrote this needs to be investigated. He's like trying
to sell this.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't like it, right. He's trying to soften a
revelation that may occur someday about the barrels in his
exactly exactly. He's trying to set the table cannibalism. We
need to reconsider it.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I just watched a horrible horror movie about cannibalism where
these guys invite a bunch of people over to their
house for a dinner party, and they're serving them the victims,
but they don't know it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Would Jim ember watch episodes of Hannibal, the prequel to
Silence of the Lambs. Yes, Oh, my god, when he
would when he would sit down at the table in
his suit, with his fine wine and his beautiful home
and start slicing off pieces of liver that he cooked up. God,
that was gross dinner table. Do you think because like you,
you're so you're talking the other day about the snakes
(05:04):
and how that might become a meat of the future,
And I said, you because the idea of eating a
snake disgusts me. There's something about eating a reptile that
I find.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And I've had snake, I've had alligator, there are multiple
I've had it, but I don't want to it's gross.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Alligator was great. It's just fried meat. Say that's all right,
but could could you eat human? No? No, that's repugnant, repulsive.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Wi.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
It's an instinctive horror. I think now the concept of
it being a funerary ritual. Does anybody have anything else
they'd like to say about Jim? Okay, well, then we're
passing out knives and forks. If we could all make
our way to the casket.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, I got one more thing to say about Jimmy
looks delicious. Now that's some marbling. I mean, I know,
I know he didn't exercise much, but that is some
delicious looking marbling. Nice rub for it, Sid.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
If you heard me, I think did I tell this
on the air? I can't remember my favorite joke now,
which also takes place at a funeral.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
If you've heard this before, forgive me, but it's short. Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
It's a funeral and uh, and people are talking about
the dearly departed, and the widow stands up and says,
is there anybody else who'd like to say a word?
The guy stands up, he said I would, and he
says plethora. Then he sits down, and the widow says,
thank you, jim That means a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yes, that is a good one I have.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Actually, you've told that before, and I wrote it down
to tell it to somebody else, and then I never did,
so thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I'll pass it on. Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
The beauty of that joke is you think the punch
your line is that he just says one word.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, there's a twist and a twist.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
My love.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It caught the twist done. Oh go good twist. That's funny.
So back to cannibalism. I'm guessing that we're designed to
be disgusted by it only because most of human history
people have been starving. And if you weren't disgusted by it,
I mean, if you if you thought of eating another
human the same way you thought of eating a cow,
we would have all eaten each other. I mean, just
(07:19):
the strongest would have survived and eaten each other, and
the societies that didn't find it up hurt and died
out pretty quickly because of that. That'd be my evolutionary guess.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, and we're just like an epidemiological reason why it's
a bad idea because obviously humans can catch human diseases,
but I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I suppose that's possible, but you know, we've mostly been
starving throughout history. If you weren't disgusted by it, and like,
the only the only way you could possibly do it
is if you're you know, the Donner Party, and you're
all starving to death. And many of them didn't participate,
they went ahead and starved before they did it. If
it was okay with you, yeah, people would have turned
to that right away. Yeah, I know, Jim. We all
(08:02):
hate Jim. Let's eat him.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I tell you what though, It's it's all about the
method of preparation, because like, I'm not gonna have human
sushi or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's too much. I'm a medium rare guy, but I'm
going well done on Jim.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, and I'm like, maybe he smoked all day, like a.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Long maybe jerky even I want it really clicked. Could
it be like a company.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Could it be like a sandwich, or maybe like a
rap or something.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So it's not just that, yeah, you know what I mean.
I don't want it like tender and falling off the femur.
I just say, oh, like a turkey leg you know,
you see it the fair because I'm diabetic. That's right,
You're at the fair and you're eating a human legs.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Got that footstill, see that's disgusting point.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So we'll see if this catches on and if New
Scientific is successful in their effort to I don't know,
mainstream cannibalism.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I guess you know what the world we're in right now,
it wouldn't shock me, right right you.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
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Speaker 2 (09:28):
I've been familiar with next door for a long time,
but I'd never had the notifications on where I would
get where i'd get the regular everything everybody posts? Good God?
Is that a smorgus board of unimportant? It is? Question?
It is the forum of first world problems? What it is?
It's it's a combination of like first world problems that
(09:53):
you really don't need to mention out loud to anyone,
and uh, and like big problems.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
That there are much better venues for finding.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
The answer, like my you know, my dad has got
this disease. My dad's got Parkinson. He happened to be president.
Does anybody recommend a good doctor You're going on next
door for that? Is that your best place to try
to figure out these things? It just seems odd to me.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Yeah, I guess nobody ever responds, So I don't know
why everybody's fishing in this pond. I could see asking
for a recommendation of like a service provider or something
like that. I wouldn't ask what medicine do you think
he ought to take? Or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Or you know, a football is in my backyards, they
may know it belonged to That was one this morning.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Oh boy, I saw one the other day that somebody
took a picture off of a ring camera of a
kid that doorbell ditched him, and they posted the video
on next door, going, who is kid?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is this right? Right? Lots of those, lots of those,
lots of did anybody just hear that noise? Well, that
happens like ten times a day? And then various responses.
I did too. I thought it sounded like a gun.
It didn't. That's not like a gun. It sounded like
more okay, whatever. But here's my favorite one from today
that got me on this very topic. Here's another one.
Somebody asking about shingles. Find a medical professional or weib
(11:10):
MD or something not next door that you're.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Talking about roof depiltating, a nerve pain or exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I'm talking about the disease. Here's my favorite one. Uh,
does anybody know what I should do with this crow?
It has a hurt wing. It lands between our houses.
I'm trying. I'm trying to I'm trying to nurse it
back to health. It keeps hopping around and I don't
know what to do with it.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
You got to put the whip to it. It's not
trying hard enough. What should I do with it?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Call it a sissy and tell it to try harder.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Right, exactly, tell it? Good Lord helps crows that help themselves?
Just like, is it like the new Google for your neighbors?
I don't understand why people are utilizing that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, all right, that's what I'm saying. And you don't
have Google or any of the other search engines for
figuring stuff out, or even TikTok or whatever you do.
You go to the next door with the other eighty
year old. Nothing else to do is to answer your question.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's just I just shocked by And I've
always wondered this about when I didn't live in a
neighborhood for like twenty years.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But now I'm in a neighborhood. Every neighborhood I've ever
lived in, pretty much, there are quite a few houses
where you know who lives there, even if you don't
know know them, you see them on a regular basis,
getting in their car, kid, coming home on a bike, whatever.
But there's always several houses where you just never see anybody.
Yeah ever, ever, you never see anybody ever. Somebody lives there.
(12:46):
Lights get turned on at night off in the morning,
and that must be the crowd that's on next door
asking about crows or medical questions or whatever. It must
be that crowd.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
You gotta go on next door and say, hey, has
anybody ever seen anybody come out of the blue house?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Just start asking really weird questions on there. Jack, that'd
be perfect.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Hey, speaking of asking advice, I thought this was so
interesting and it makes sense in my head. See if
it does to you. It's new research out about getting advice,
asking for advice, that sort of thing, and this, Elizabeth
Bernstein writes, we tend to believe the best person for
support during a tough time will always be someone who's
been there before.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Turns out that's wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
New research shows we make get better help from people
who've been through a significant challenge that's different from our own.
Because social scientists say this is because those who have
been through an unrelated challenge can empathize with our emotional pain,
but they won't assume they know what our experience is
like or bring their own emotional baggage to the conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh, hu's great, that is interesting. I think that one over.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Meanwhile, somebody who's quote unquote been there before some times
talks more than they listen. They may also give advice
solely based on their experience and forget that ours is
going to be different. And because they got already got
over the problem, they think we should too, and tend
to minimize how painful the situation is.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
My main advice with big things that I've been through
is usually having been through this, don't listen to anybody's advice.
That's about my only advice on a number of big things.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Wow wow, interesting a cynical man or an experienced man.
Sometimes you don't know. Sometimes someone you don't know well
may have different life experiences that you can draw upon.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You never know what people know until you ask. Well, like,
that's the advice I give on my cancer experience, because
I've had a number of people ask me who get cancer,
and I say, don't take anybody's advice, because everybody's situation
is so incredibly different. I heard so many things it
turned out not to be true. I'd have been better
off if I never asked. Everybody's situation is miles apart
(15:07):
and changes on a daily basis, So don't worry about
it and child rearing, while not the same as that,
because there are some truths to child wearing, definitely, but man,
there's a lot of I don't know, what are you
telling me this for when it comes to child wearing.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Also, yeah, a lot of people are trying to express
their own how to put this, work out their own issues,
or exhibit their own egos or something, because kids are.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So different and then the parents interaction with the kid
is so different. It's just, yeah, it's hard to normalize
a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, maybe the worst advice giver is somebody who's raised
a kid, because to the beginning of this article, they're
completely convinced that their experience is universal. I'm not talking
about all of you that have had one child. Obviously
some of you have wisdom, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You'd exactly be what she was describing. Yep, I because
I've got that situation. It ends up if I just
if I'd only had one of them, I would think
I was the world's greatest parent and be willing to
lay out all kinds of advice and maybe write a book.
If I don't lay at the other one, I would
think I'm a disaster.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, I heard that So final note on this, which
I found interesting was the power of weak ties. Conversations
with people that you have weak ties with can be
surprisingly helpful. They don't know us well, they don't know
our false They're less likely to judge us or make
assumptions about our situation or something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I've had many experiences like this. Are much more likely
to be a fellow, like a brainstormer, than a bestower
of alleged wisdom. They're much more likely to listen and
toss out ideas with you than try to lay the
law down. This is the guy sitting next to you
at the bar or the bus stop or whatever.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I've had this experience many times in my life, and
it works both directions. They don't have any particular agenda
because they don't know you and you don't you don't
They can say things that if somebody who did know
you said them, you'd get furiously angry. But because you
don't know them at all and have nothing invested, you
(17:14):
can just hear what they have to say. Yeah, the
power of weak ties thought provoking. Yeah, ask a stranger.
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Speaker 4 (17:37):
You don't know this, probably, but Jack and I have
had a long running and bitter dispute.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I really like.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Appetizers if I'm out to eat or whatever he's got,
like he's a member of ISIS, He's got this militant
anti appetizer belief.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's stupid. Just have the meal. Have the meal. You
don't need to have appetizers. And anyway, I.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Won't go any further because again we're not bad mouthing him, okay,
and is insane and unsupportable, some would say idiotic beliefs.
But Jack is anti appetizer. I, on the other hand,
love appetizers, and in fact, Judy and I went to
a breast cancer fundraiser just last night and I bought
at probably excessive cost, but it wasn't a purchase, it's
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a donation. I bought an appetizer of the month club
membership in which some of the gifted chefs associated with
this community slash.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It was a golf club.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
They deliver to your home like a gourmet appetizer once
a month.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Oh, I know, that's awesome. I know.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
So like I'll say, yeah, can we do it this
coming Friday, And they'll say absolutely, And they'll show up
with like this brilliantly crafted stuffed mushrooms or something like that.
It's a great excuse to have like friends over for
a glass of wine and stuff and we get the credit.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh that is so cool. No, I know it.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Okay, So what kind of things do they offer?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
So stuff mush rooms obviously, are there other Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I realized that this the very term has a negative connotation,
but I don't know why they did, like a super
delicious cheeseball, one of those big cheeseballs you dig in
with the knife and put it on crackers.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But it was like home crafted. Oh cheeseball, Those are
big cheeseballs. Yeah, that sounds awesome to me.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, and a friend, a friend of ours, actually bought
this last year. And I can't remember what else there
like a shrimp thing and various cannapis whatever that is,
but just super yummy like gourmet appetizers.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah. See this sounds like I'm me Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Well, I mean and particularly I mean it was several
hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Again, it's a donation out a purchase.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
But when you look at what you spend, like go
out for a nice dinner now, especially if you have
a bottle of wine or something that crap.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So anyway, I'm happy to contribute.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Judy actually she quilted a thing, a golf cart seat
cover that fits like custom fits around the little what
do you call it, the hip rest things to keep
you from sliding off the end of it. Anyway, so
we made a nice donation to It's a nice nice
fundraiser anyway. The game across this article playground bullies do
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prosper and go on to earn more in middle age.
This is a five decade study that's thorough.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Brits.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Children who displayed aggressive behavior at school, such as bullying
or temper outbursts, are likely to earn more money in
middle age, according to a five decade study that upends
the maxim that bullies do not prosper. Any reaction to that, Katie,
off the top of your head.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I can kind of see where they're going with this,
because the people that are more outspoken maybe going further
in business rather than the meek that get picked on.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I can see that.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, this is one of the reasons I'm so militant
about in schools not making little boys act like little girls,
nor should you make little girls act like little boys.
Let them be themselves, but the idea that you're just
sit still and be quiet and just like the girls
are doing. Because as a youth coach, mostly in soccer,
I coach baseball and softball a little bit too, but
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observing the difference between boys and girls. And then I
coached gosh, I coached eight year old boys, ten year
old boys, twelve year old boys, that sort of range,
and then fourteen year old girls was the oldest I
ever coached. But I would watch ten year old boys
and there are like fifteen guys on the team, right,
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So it's a nice selection of different sorts of human beings.
And you could see, Okay, that kid is going to
be a dynamic leader, but at age ten, he's obnoxious
because he has the tool, but he doesn't know how.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
To wield it properly. That's a great point. Yeah, just
and I wish.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
I'd thought about this more, but I could give you
more examples of just they're all diamonds in the rough.
I mean, some of them are probably going to end
up in jail or beating their spouse or something like that.
I mean, not everybody's a diamond, but they're they're too
much of everything. But that's how you end up, I
think with a good man. It's very rare that a
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meek Well, no, I don't want to I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Overstate this because some people are just introverts.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
But we need to get back to boys will be boys,
and that that's saying has been perverted to mean allegedly
so they can do anything they want. But no, that's
not what that saying means at all. It means you
have to put up with the excesses of boyhood to
end up with good men. Now I'm a poor bullying
(23:09):
but go ahead.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
No, I like what you said too about they have
the tool, they just don't know how to use it yet.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Because you do.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
You might see a leader in this ten year old,
but that not yet because right now they don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Yeah, they're they're loud and obnoxious, yeah, or they bully
for instance. Now, some bullies remain bullies in their a
holes and I hate them and I hope they go
to prison. But some people, you know, this is if
I haven't told this story in ages. I remember the
first time I told this story. Now, Gladys, do you
play the harp when I'm thinking about I'm looking back
(23:41):
at telling a story.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
About looking back? Yeah, she's there for do you play
the harp twice? Or how did that work? Doesn't he
just go ahead and start talking?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
So I was, uh, I was having this argument with
a frenemy. Okay, he I was like the pitcher on
the baseball team, high school baseball team, and he was
the catcher, and he was a really good catcher, really
good ballplayer. But he and I had this like two
alpha dogs thing going on, and so there was respect
(24:16):
and all.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But we clashed.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
We clashed a fair amount, and we got We got
into it one time verbally and he said to me,
and I wish I had I wish I had written
the quote down.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
He said.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Something like, I'm not even going to get into it
with you because you'll cut me to bits. And I
thought he sees my verbal ability as a tool of
meanness and cruelty. And I thought, I don't want to
be that guy ever again. I don't want to. I mean,
(24:50):
unless somebody's got a coming. I decided, Okay, I have
the ability to hurt people with words, I am never
going to do that to an innocent victim. And maybe
I've lapsed at times of loss of temper or what
have you in the intervening years, but I've never thought
of myself. Part of it is I never thought of
myself as a bully, because I would never hurt anybody physical, right.
(25:14):
But I realized at that moment he used me as
some sort of verbal bully, and I thought, I'm not
going to be that and so, and I hate that.
This is painful for me to admit that I might
have kind of been that quote unquote bully who then
grew up to not be a bully as an adult.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
That's interesting because when you said what when you quoted
what he said, I heard it as like you were
you have more of a verbal ability than him, Not
that you're cruel with your words, but that you you
could verbally take him if you guys were to get
into an argument.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Right, right, I guess I guess The subtlety of it
is I always saw it as like winning an argument
as opposed to leaving a victim. Okay, well, it's you know,
like the typical adolescent. It was self centered. I looked
(26:10):
at it from my point of view. I win, and
I spanked him and sent him running. Yeah, but I
hadn't developed the compassion to really see it from the
other person's perspective. And like I say, if it's somebody
trying to, for instance, you know, like push experimental sex
change procedures on children, I'll rip them apart. If I can,
I will turn every skill I have full blast for
(26:36):
the kid's sake. But like I said, no, no, nobody
who doesn't have it coming, I just won't do that.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah, And recognizing that about yourself too is a big
thing because I have a very similar I like to
call it a sharp.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Tongue, especially when I hear that at all.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
No, I don't have that one bit.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
But that's something that I've been working on my whole life.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Is realized.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Yo, Okay, cool it because I know that once it
takes off, bad news bears.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Right, right, You don't punch everybody who deserves it. Yeah,
And you don't, you know, strip them naked with your
verbiage if they don't deserve it either, even though you.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Can, and when they do, they'll always it fun.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
So Now the temper outburst thing is interesting. They found
an increase in teachers observations of conduct problems such as
temper outbursts or bullying or teasing other children, was associated
with an increase in earnings of nearly four percent of
any given rise in conduct problems for boys or girls.
That compares to a six percent rise for higher cognition
(27:43):
skills and so as a measure of who's going to
do well, at least financially an old boy, Now that
I think about it, that's an interesting way to measure
this anyway, But being like hot tempered is almost as
good an indicator of being successful in life is being smart.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, based off how they put it.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, yeah, Wow, it's forty percent of six Well, I
guess you could say fifty percent more likely, but you
see my point. Further, an analysis showed that by age sixteen,
those with conduct problems were more sociable as teenagers and
were more likely to smoke and be arrested at some
point in their lives.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Oh there's that. Wow. So is it just being more
dynamic in general? I do not know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
They point out, many people, many successful people, have had
various problems in school, like Winston Churchill, various folks expelled, suspended,
who ended up being famous or successful or what have you.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well like in today's news.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I mean, look at Trump, He's considered a bully.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
He's probably didn't like that his whole life. Yeah, I
think he's still a bully. It's one of the things
I don't particularly like about him.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
But I was thinking about Steve Jobs, genius, but I've
heard he was a complete bully.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Oh yeah, that's right at when. Yeah, I was picturing
his youth, but yeah, running apple he was absolutely was.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
You know, maybe this boils down to and this is
an old, old message. Don't make kids sit still and
be quiet and all act the same, because they're not
the same. There's a cynical view of education that modern
education exists purely to turn people into rule following drones.
(29:39):
And you know, I certainly hope that's I know a
lot of gifted teachers and that's not what they're trying
to do. But just to what, to whatever extent, that's
what's happening. Resist that, Yeah, a big yick. Yeah, we
need more kids who end up smoking and getting arrested,
because the other ones will be Winston tr I think
(30:00):
that's our takeaway here? What something like that nail?
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Speaker 2 (30:19):
Your sweatshirt either says I p A or E p A.
I assume it says I p A like the beer,
and not E p A like the you're not wearing
a sweatshirt that you wouldn't catch me dead in an
EPA swatcher Environmental Protection Agency swag.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I was just gonna say how many how many agency
government agencies have swag?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I know the CIA and FBI do do they like
for public purchase?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, absolutely cool. I might have to get some of that.
I wear my FBI swag all the time and arrest people. Oh,
I'm gonna get the CIA stuff. I need you to
open your trunk. I bring them to justice. Open the trunk. Please,
you make lights on your car too, so you can rely.
Who are you? All questions? He opened the trunk? Can
I see your badge? Can I see your hands behind
(31:05):
your back? And then I tough them? Uh so this
I hope, I hope this works. What I'm about to
do here? I came across this last night, and I
laughed out loud several times. So it's a guy with
a kind of funny laugh and this is pretty long.
He speaking a different language. I don't even know what
(31:26):
language it is, but I don't speak it. But it
was still funny, and I could pick up on the
universal cadence of telling a story. And then he starts
laughing about the story and then filling in more details
and continues to laugh, and the other guy's laughing, and
it just and then like you know, and then you
won't believe this, and then they I guess that's what
(31:48):
he's saying. I don't know. I don't speak the language.
But if this is funny to you the way it
was to me, I think it says something about humor
or because I've often thought people that are really really funny,
they don't they don't even need words. Their timing is
so good. The joke doesn't even have to don't even
have to be a joke. The timing is so perfect.
It's funny just with the timing. Yeah, I suppose anyway,
(32:13):
we'll see if this is funny or not. You're not
supposed to understand what this person is saying. He's telling
the story ran loud, Michael Chank, Philip, Now we're gonna
maybe chan intermoth the inter up on the bottle you
(33:05):
got come up to me? He goes, Yeah, they drop into.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
My let me.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
There, I got that. Yeah, I said, tell you.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Dude is amused. I think, first of all, I would
like to have somebody translate that story to me, because
I just feel like at some point it was like
and then, no, you won't believe this that she walks
in with a canary on her head. Yet her husband
turns around and he says, but then the dog comes
(34:08):
into the room and hold on, I'm not done.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I just hope the translation of that story isn't they
were complaining about how loud my party was, so I
went to their home and murdered them all.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Or it's incredibly yeah, it's incredibly graphic sexually or something.
I mean just like racist or something. Yeah, oh my god,
the record, We got no idea what Bro was saying.
And maybe you should have run this by somebody who
speaks whatever language that is before snapping this out. Now, yeah, yeah, exactly.
(34:42):
Jesus could be the most racist, sexist, overtly horrifying joke
you've ever heard in your life, and.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Then the nazis, Oh, don't even say it.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Boy, dude's laugh was just insane. It's not that was it. No,
that's not the end of it. Sounds like it must
have about a heck of a joke.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I think his laugh might have been what was making
you laugh, because it just just his laugh itself was
was funny?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Well, yeah, I was. Clearly the infectious laugh had something
to do with it. I would like to have the
slightest idea what this story was about, because it's got
many tags, and just when you think it's over, it's not.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Oh yeah, exactly, yeah that her husband, Her husband says, no, seriously,
this is what he said, right. Uh yeah, I wonder
can we run that through Google trains figure out what
sort of horror we've unleashed over.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
The closet and his mom is standing there and it
just keeps going and going.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
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