July 30, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 2 of the Tuesday July 30, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- Shut Up Mom...
- Joe Finds a Parable...
- The very expensive SF public toilet...
- Tosh's Fake Racial Slurs.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Catty arm Strong and Jettie and
he Armstrong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hey, we're Armstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast One
More Thing. Find it wherever you find all your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
This blew my mind.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
The other day, my husband and I went to a
restaurant and we're sitting there eating and I could just
overhear the conversation happening next to me. It's a mom
and her daughter who's maybe thirteen.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Are you aby, Are you a person that can tune
out people next to you or can't tune out people?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I cannot? Yeah, nuts, I.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Easily can turn out conversations with me, But like I
have friends and family members who can't. And you can't
talk to them if there's someone else talking over there
because they can't stop listening to them.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's I guess you're either built that way or you're not.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
I have a very hard tuning out extraneous audio.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, same here so and I couldn't tune this out
at all. And again, she was maybe thirteen, and they're
talking about something and they weren't agreeing, and this little
girl goes shut up mom, and the mom didn't react,
and they continue to argue, and my jaw dropped because
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when I was raised telling my parents to shut up,
I mean, I've never done that. I have never in
my life told my mom or dad to shut up
in a serious manner. There was one time my dad
and I were joking around and I accidentally went to
shut up, and I stopped dead in my tracks in
fear because I was like, I know those words aren't uttered, right, Yeah,
but I know parenting is changing generationally, Is that okay?
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Is telling your parents to shut up like a normal thing?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Jack?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Have your kids ever dared? One kid did once? But yeah, no,
that was not okay. It did not go well, okay kids, right?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I just I don't know if there's if that's a
shift that's happening where the way you talk to your
parents is changing. But the way that the mom didn't react,
I'm sitting there going.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
What I wouldn't take it in any tone, but was
the tone kind of like the valley go oh, shut up?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
No, they were they were having a serious colle wow
shut your pie hole. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Yeah, so that certainly would not have washed in my house.
I think one of one of the kids may have
tried it at one point and it went very poorly.
But how long is a generation?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
They usually say twenty years?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah, I think okay, well all right, then, well at
least my oldest kid in your youngest kid. I raised
my kids during the previous generation, which is kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But shut up still is not fly with anybody I know.
I don't think if it does, you need to take
a parent in class.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Okay, Like Kevin Hart's got a bit where he's talking
about how it turns out he was mistaken but he
thought his kid he was yelling down to his kid
to do something, and he thought his kid yelled fu
said the words to him, and he just like gets
what He's like, what what just happened here? And the
crowd just goes berserk about the idea of a kid
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saying that to their parents, which I was happy to hear,
but that was just like roundly seen as oh my god,
a nuclear bomb just went off. That is not okay,
how is he going to react to this? It turns
out he mishurt his kid over something like that. But yeah, no,
shut up is not okay any but any world I
know of Okay.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That brings me some comfort because the kid, the girl
was similar to your kid's age, and I was.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But the fact that the mom, I mean, she just
took it, oh boy. That I feel bad for both
of them because.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Almost guaranteed that's a bad situation either happening or going
to happen. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I remember back when I was raising my kids and
would talk about it on the air, and people would
call in or you know, write in with questions and
that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
What I thought, and.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
A number of times I thought, my first piece of
advice is get a time machine, because you're asking me
how do I undo fourteen years of getting it wrong?
And yeah, you know, it's like after your fifth heart
attack saying to your doctor, you know, well, it's you
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know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I came across a great thing on parenting that I
was going to edit for the show because it's long,
but I wish, wish, wish I'd read it when my
kids were young. Jonah Goldberg actually wrote it. He's quoting
a bunch of other people, but he's talking about how
there's a new book by a developmental psychologist who had
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never heard of before, Alison Kropnik. But the the name
of the book is The Gardener and the Carpenter, and
she points out that the very word parenting really only
emerged in the fifties and didn't become popular until the
seventies because until the fifties, people generally lived in their hometown,
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near all their relatives, and they would just observe and
everybody's there to help, and you didn't have to learn
about parenting. It was self evident. You saw it all
the time, and your mentors were around you anyway. But
then in the seventies, people got more isolated, more mobile,
they moved away and that sort of thing, and you
had these parenting experts pop up, and.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Often with no kids or mad kids.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Right, that's right, Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of that too.
But ms Gropnik point says that parents began to think
like carpenters, who have a clear idea in mind of
what they're trying to achieve. They look carefully at the
materials they have to work with, AND's their job to
assemble those materials into a finish, the project or product
that can be judged by everyone against clear standards are
the right angles, perfect does the door work? Kropnik notes
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that the messiness and veriability are a carpenter's enemies. Precision
and control are her allies. Measure twice, cut once, etc.
And her thing. And I've got to admit I don't
want to get too deep into this because it's incredibly
serious and will make me very sad. But I was
influenced by a calmnist to is a so called parenting expert,
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and he was very much of the carpenter school. And
when I ran into a kid with special needs, specifically
on the autism spectrum, that was the last thing I needed.
The last thing I needed was a carpenter's point of
view about parenting.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And MS.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Gropnick's thing here and I haven't read the book is
a better way to think about child rearing is as
a gardener. Your job is to create a protected and
nurturing space for plants to flourish. It takes work, but
you don't have to be a perfectionist. Weed the garden,
water it. Step back and the plants will do their
things unpredictably and often with delightful surprises. And it's not
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like a hippie dippy anything goes. She's talking about weeding
the garden and doing what needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But you're not a carpenter or a gardener. What exactly
is the carpenter's way. I don't know what you're talking
about as far as the carpenter's view.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Would it be fair to say, it's just like, there's
one way to do it, one size fits all to
get this to come out right?
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Essentially, Yeah, it's cut and dried. There are a list
of rules, you follow them, it'll be fine. As opposed
to a garden, where it's much more about nurturing than
forcing that it's absolutely inevitably going to go sideways at times.
If you're a good carpenter, it doesn't go sideways. You
can make cabinet after cabinet after cabinet, and if a
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mistake is or if something goes wrong, that's utterly unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Whereas as a gardener, something's always going to go wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's what the job is, and you have to adapt.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, the only thing I could say to your situation
you overheard, Katie, because I've kind of lived this myself,
is I've got one kid that's got all kinds of
diagnosed things and kinds of medication and all kinds of things.
He has said and done, things that if his brother
did them, it would be the end of the world.
But the kid that's got all these various situations, he's
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not always in control of.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Everything he does.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And also, if you react a certain way you're about
I mean, she might have a kid that if she
had said anything to that kid at that moment about that,
the table's getting flipped over. I mean, the police are
coming that sort of thing. Possibly, I don't.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Even think of that possible circumstance that they're you know,
that all could have had that problem.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Final bit of wisdom learned too late, at least partially,
is when I first became a youth sports coach, I
think I went I can't remember where this came from,
but it was pointed out to me that you don't
coach all of your players the same. You coach all
of your players the way they need to be coached.
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Some kids respond well to like the old school disciplined
to bark at them some because some kids shut down
and you're not going to make them a better player
a better person doing that. You got to figure out
how to pick their locks and parenting's a lot like
that too. If you think it's as mathematical and uh
and cut and dried as carpentry, you're gonna do it wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So how did how did the things turn out with
the woman and the kid who said shut up? Did
they just eventually did they stop talking or did they
eventually get up and leave?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
They went back and forth for like maybe another thirty seconds,
and then their food came and I checked out of
that conversation pretty much.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
But yeah, it shocked me.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
But I like that gardening analogy because that makes more
sense that you're going to have more room to kind
of wiggle when things go awry.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I don't know about that mom dealing with her kid,
but like, I only think about my parenting roughly eighty
percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
All day long. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Now that's not to say there are no rules in gardening.
For instance, if you feed gatorade to plants, they will die,
as outlined hilariously in the classic movie slash documentary Idiocracy.
All right, of course, that it wasn't gatorade. It was
called what brono brondo or electrolytes.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's got electrolytes.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And Getty show.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Hey we're Armstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast. One
more thing. Find it.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
We're at her you find all your podcasts.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I came across this parable and I'm not exactly sure
what to think about it.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think i'd know what to think, but I thought
it was entertaining.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
The donkey told the tiger, grass is blue. The tiger replied, no,
the grass is green. The discussion became heated, and the
two decided to submit the issue to arbitration. So they
approached the lion, who apparently is in charge, of course,
king of the jungle, king of the beasts. Sure, donkey,
donkey's the lion's coabitating, all right and getting in arguments
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with tigers anyway. As they approached the lion on his throne,
the donkey started screaming, yours your itis.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Isn't it true the grass is blue?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
The lion replied, if you believe it is true, the
grass is blue. The donkey rushed forward and continued, the tiger.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Disagrees with me. He contradicts me and annoys me.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They should have thrown it. It's a microaggression. Please please
punish him.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
He's triggering me exactly. Yeah, I got to rewrite this
to make it even more sickening. Let's see. The king
then declares the speech. The tiger will be punished with
three days of silence. Keep his giant, beitoothed mouth shut.
That's the pun The donkey jump with joy and went
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on his way, content and repeating.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
The grass is blue, The grass is blue.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
The tiger asks the lion, your majesty, why have you
punished me? After all, the grass is green. The lion replied,
you've known and seen that the grass is green. The
tiger asked, so why do you punish me. The lion replied,
that has nothing to do with the question of whether
the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because
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it is degrading for a brave, intelligent creature like you
to waste time arguing with an ass and on top
of that, you came and bothered me with that question
just to validate something you already knew was true. The
biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and
fanatic who doesn't care about the truth or reality, but
only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste
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time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who,
for all the evidence presented to them, do not have
the ability to understand others who are blind by ego,
hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want
is to be right, even if they aren't.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So arguing with the.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Actual donkey, the donctivist, if you will, I can.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
See what.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I won't, I can see like a great example of
this is when you have the two activist groups screaming
at each other in the street over the barricades, and
the poor cops are rolling their eyes thinking, oh my god,
I hope I go home without.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Getting hit over the head with something that's stupid.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
But if the donkeys of the world have like taken
over your public school, don't you have to as the
lion point out that they're teaching the lion cubs perverse thing.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Does it ever do any good? I'm not sure it
ever does any good? Like you, of course it does. Well,
you have to uh, well, you're not going to convince them.
You just have more people, I guess. I guess the
thing would be if you got other people like witnessing this,
and you've got to convince them, but convincing the one
person they're not going to.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Change their mind.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Well, right, And that's what bothers me a little bit
about this parable, and it's thought provoking anyway. Is if
you go if you as the tiger, for instance, saying
confused adolescent girls should not be told they're actually little
boys because puberty is scary, especially for girls. If you
are the tiger advocating that, and you go to the
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lion of the electorate, that's what you have to do.
I mean, if it's just a story about animals in
the forest at each other, then it's not a parable.
It's just a mildly amusing story. But if it's a parable,
it obviously has something to do with as a humankind.
And if you've got the donkey pitching that the grass
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is blue and it's like infected the public schools and
your kids come home with a dad, you're wrong, the
grass is blue, and my teacher says you're a hater
and a race for saying that you gotta go to
the lion, don't you.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, yeah, I suppose, But I think the parable works
for just individuals which I was picturing. I wasn't picturing
the public square is just if I recognize the guy
at the end of the bar is like the donkey
about some topic, I'm not going to engage them.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
What's the freaking point? Oh I agree with that one
hundred percent Katie's thoughts on the donkeys.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
There's no place in time or space where donkeys and
lions have been in the same orbit, is there unless
the lion's already full, let alone talking donkeys and talking lions.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, that's what I was stuck on. Yeah, donkey having
a conversation. This is baffling, exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
It's a parable you know, I'm skulls come on over
my head.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, you're right. It's an individual thing and fair enough.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And very very true. Do not Well, I know some
people feel it seems like they enjoy it. There's no
point in arguing with some people bought some topics.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Well, and the fact that a lot of people just
want to be quote unquote, they want to win the argument.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
They don't care if they're right. It works both ways too.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I mean, and sometimes I've been I don't think I've
ever said this, but I've been in conversation before where
I could say, look, I've thought and read about this
a lot. Nothing's gonna change my mind. I mean, you
can say it louder and slower if you like your opinion,
but it's not going to change my mind. So or
you can hint that I'm an idiot for not agreeing
with you, but you're really wasting your time and.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Mine, you donkey.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Interestingly enough, Kentucky bluegrass is not blue either.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's slightly bluer.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I was disappointed in that by a kid as a kid,
not by a kid as a kid. When I heard
about bluegrass, I thought, this is gonna be awesome. My
dad got bluegrass for the yard, didn't inform it. All
the other kids are going to be so jealous. Now,
oh yeah, grass is blue as Merged Simpson's hair. This
is gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You guys just ruined my dad. I didn't know this.
You didn't, all right?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
No, never been to Kentucky then, huh? Now I have not,
and I have all these dreams. I just pictured blue
lawns everywhere.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I pictured that too. Yeah, I pictured that, and I
just had it in my mind. It looks so fantastic,
turned on not.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
To be true.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Bluebirds are blue? Oh the berries are blue. There's their
asses Green WTF.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
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Speaker 3 (17:38):
At one points, as a child, for some reason, I
thought would be a good idea to stick my finger
in a pencil sharper.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I don't remember how old I was, But anyway, I've
got one finger that the fingernail on top still has
white spots on there from that. They never went away.
The fingernail continues to grow. But the cuts that I've
put deep into my fingernail causing me great pain from
the pencil sharpener still on my fingernail.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Do you think you're like seven or seventeen?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I was twenty eight, it was thirty one. Yeah, I
was more like seven. Sure, yeah, Well we all do
silly stuff like that. You know what I've always wondered
about scars? What's the deal with scars?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I have, you know, various places on my body where
I got cut open or whatever. My skin has regenerated
hundreds of times, thousands of times.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I'm not a dermatologist, But why does my skin regenerate scars?
I mean, at one point when I was born, that
skin was on scarred, so you'd think that would be
programmed into my genetics.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't get that.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I don't understand either. Clearly happens, but yeah, why it
doesn't regenerate? Your face does mostly, but the rest of
your body does not.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I mean, like, right up there, I got a notch
there and one there, and I got scars there and there,
and they've eat it a bit over the years, but
they're still there.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I don't get that.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
When you and your orangutang used to travel around the
country and a pickup and do that bare knuckle street fighting.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Yeah, I mean it was choreographed, but sometimes, you know,
his mighty ape blows would land upon my head.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
It's an old movie you've never heard of, Katie from
way back in the day, Clint Eastwood street fighting with
an orangutang.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Okay, Like, wow, Joe, you've done some things I haven't
heard about in my life.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
What a life, What a ride it's been, Kay, I'll
tell you about it sometimes. But so anyway, if you're
just segueing from the February twentieth Armstrong and Getty radio
show or the on demand podcast into one more thing.
The pencil sharpener reference will be familiar to it. We
talked about it during the radio show today. But the
situation is, your your friend announces his intention to put
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his finger into a power pencil sharpener, and you tell him, well, Jim,
if you do that, it's going to shred your finger,
be incredibly painful, and you're gonna bleed a great deal.
Then he says, well, I feel like I must do it,
and he sticks his fing here and there, and precisely
what you describe happens, and he's standing there screaming, oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
My finger.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
It's intensely painful, it's shredded, and now it's bleeding a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
What are you going to say at that point?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
We feel like that having been desperately trying to talk
sense to the people of America, particularly the West Coast,
as it's implemented these utterly predictably disastrous progressive policies, and
I just I suppose I should take we should take satisfaction.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
No, but no, because the finger had to be shredded. Yeah,
that's just stupid.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And there are businesses that I liked to have been
driven out of business by the crime.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Right, for instance.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
So this is not quite as serious as the crime
and that's part of the reason this is so enjoyable.
And before we launch into it, and we're going to
play a fair amount of audio from ABC seven in
the Bay Area, and I would suggest if you ever
watch Bay Area news, I would give ABC seven a
good long audition, because if they're doing a report like this,
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they deserve your love, or at least give them a chance,
because there are plenty of Bay Area media outlets who
wouldn't get within one thousand miles of this story. We'll
start Michael with the first clip and go from there.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
By now you've probably heard of the infamous Noe Valley
public toilet and how San Francisco was ready to dish
out one point seven million dollars for its construction rather
than pay for a much cheaper modular model from a
company in Nevada. Here's why San Francisco could not would
not do business with any entity in that state. San
Francisco had a ban on doing business with thirty states
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that had laws that undermined LGBTQ and voting rights, as
well as blocking abortion access.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
It was those states against.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
San Francisco, and that eventually became too costly for city government.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Thenoe Valley bath them is not a one off case.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
That's a problem that is replicated throughout our city government.
Speaker 9 (22:04):
Or we couldn't buy toilet paper from where we historically
bought toilet paper. These market players are smart enough to
know that they had a captive audience and they could
raise their prices.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
That is mind blowing, That is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I would suggest a rephrase from our point of view
for ABC seven undermining LGBTQ rights and voter rights or
whatever they said. That's mischaracterizing reasonable policy. But so you
got a situation where San Francisco is banned doing anything
including travel with thirty different American states.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
So if you got to buy toilet paper instead of
buying at the cheapest place, you spend more taxpayer money
to send a nobody even hears it, tree falling in
the forest virtual signaling message about trans writes or something.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Well, and if you end up in a situation where
you've only got twenty states left and they don't happen
to have paper mills except for one boutique firm in Massachusetts,
and so you end up buying five dollars a roll
toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Stupid idiots. Next time, prequal matter, stupid idiots.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Nice wife economics one oh one competition results in lower prices. Also,
because of the ban, public employees were not allowed to
travel to one of those thirty states to potentially lure
companies to bring business back to San Francisco. The city
tried to get arounded by granting waivers, and between July
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twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, thirty five city
departments approved a total of five hundred and thirty eight waivers.
The problem there, even the process of granting waivers was
costing the city more money in added staff and paperwork.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
In one case, the Recreation and Parks.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Department had to get a waiver to do business.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
With a local LGBTQ vendor.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Who had recently been acquired you guessed it, by another
company in one of those thirty banned states.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
Because of that, we couldn't use her services until we
got a special dispensation, which took a really long time
and was frustrating for us and for her.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Wow, the state is drunk. You'd have to work on
being stupid. For a long time to reach that level
of virtuosity.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Roland Michael jack Jack comment, No.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I'm just going to say, you can see how you'd
get here. So the people who vote on this stuff
are moros, are divorced from reality.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Another way to put her.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
They're either morons or they are so cynical they virtue
signal to stay in office knowing that this stuff happens.
But either way, it's horrible, and then the voter doesn't
really understand or hear about it. But there's got to
be a lot of people in government that are completely
aware of the repercussions of these dumb bands, and they
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keep their mouths shut. I guess there should be a
bigger pushback against this roll on big Daddy.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Time is money, and a report by the Budget and
Legislative Analysts found that while it is difficult to measure
how the city's contracting costs have been affected by the legislation,
researchers have found that full and open competition for contracts
can result in savings up to twenty percent. After that report,
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San Francisco finally cried uncle, and last April, the Bard
of Supervisors voted to get rid of the van Instead,
San Francisco government now allowed itself to do business with
any individual company that aligns with its values.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Then we'll do business with that company, regardless of where
it's located. And so we had to adjust the law
because San Francisco was getting.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Hurt at some point.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Yeah, so they were their need to virtue signal by
demanding the companies quote unquote align with their values whatever
the hell that means, and it changes week to week.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
But so they finally figured out that.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Say there's a company that's so woke in Nevada they
only employ transgender gay men.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I mean, that's their entire staff.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
But San Francisco couldn't do business with them because they reside.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
In the evil and scary state of Nevada. Boogerty boogety boogey.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
If you practiced your violin as much as they practice stupid,
you'd be it'sak pearlman.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
It's infuriating.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
How someone could How can anyone listen to this and
not have their head want to explode?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I don't know, And that's that's a pretty good question, Katie.
Are there people that hear that and think I don't care?
They are there people like that? God? Well, they shouldn't
be in charge of anything. Oh, they should have mind,
they should. They shouldn't like be alone in an apartment
or something.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Should probably be on a leash. Just state they should
they don't wander off and hurt themselves. Next clip.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
So the city lifted some of the restrictions on who
they do business with. It still has a long list
of conditions and requirements that companies, industries, states, and even
countries must follow in order to do business with San Francisco.
Up to now, only one city department has been given
a reprieve to operate outside of some of those rules,
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the Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing. That's how they've
been allowed to expedite the construction of shelters and housing.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
It saves us at least three months on every project
that we open and has allowed us to be nimble
and take advantage of opportunities to open new projects and
spend the resources that the public has entrusted us with.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, I think unfortunately on that one. It's just that
one is millions and millions and millions of dollars flying around,
and the people that are supposed to get that millions
of dollars got a lot of pull and they aren't
gonna let it get all bogged down with your nonsense,
so they found a way around it.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Right. But to hear her.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Say, oh, it's allowed us to be nimble and like
take advantage of opportunities and save money and be efficient.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
But only for bums and junkies.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, because, like I said, there are so many people
receiving those tens of millions of dollars in the whole
homeless industrial complex.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You don't have.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
An interest group on the other end of paying for
toilet paper to try to, you know, make it happen
in a more sane way.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, in the.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Useful idiots say, well, that is such an important and
sacred mission. Okay, well let's spend all the rules. I
think that is very important. Yeah, people making a living,
keeping the city from going into a death spiral. Yeah,
would get people having reasonable you know, cleanliness and freedom
from crime in their neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That is not worthy.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
You were right tipping your hat to ABC seven News
there in San Francisco, because that is some brave work
right there. You're like practically Alexi Navolny to do that
story in San Francisco. But what was I gonna say, oh,
did you see over the weekend Scott Wiener, who's like
maybe our least favorite politician in world history in San Francisco,
full of craziness. Finally, because he has been forced into it,
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has put forward some changes where they do away with
a bunch of the impossible environmental rules, so you could
build some housing, or some businesses could come back in
to San Francisco because it's just made it impossible.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
So the homeless industrial complex is trump the radical left
for the moment, or at least they're trying.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
That's a lovely victory. Leanne Melendez, congratulations ABC seven. Again,
we'll post a link if you want to see the
whole report. I think we can do that, but well done,
ABC seven.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
God, that's so crazy, that's so crazy. We need to
buy copy paper for the city where we been buying it, Alabama.
Alabama's not trans friendly, so we won't buy it from
the It costs twice as much tomor else.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I don't care. Of course you don't care. It's not
your money. Oh God, that's maddening. And again the company
is owned by a gay black man.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
They give one hundred percent of your profits to to
I don't know Panda sanctuaries, but because they're in the
state of Alabama, they're tainted by the evil of that
map location, and so you stupid morons can't buy your
paper from there.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
They give one of their profits to pass every last time.
Oh yeah, they don't hold back a dime either.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Absolutely right, as as the woke numb skulls stick their
finger in the pencil sharpener.
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There was some term we were using on the show
years ago that we said sounded like a racial slurn,
like we were uncomfortable saying.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
But it wasn't a racial slurn anyway. Do you remember
what it was? I don't remember what it was, but it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Was, Oh yeah, it's on the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'll try to come up with it.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
About It was just it was just a word, and
it's like made you uncomfortable sing And even though I
didn't have any meeting. Well, this is part of the
Daniel Tosh bit. Here that I came across on YouTube
last night. Daniel Tosh, fairly famous as a comedian for
brushing pretty closely up against racist comments in his comedy
and getting big laughs out of it. Katie, you're familiar
with Tosh, Oh yeah, he's a funny guy. Oh well,
(31:39):
and sex stuff and he just operates on the edge.
So he'll set up this focus group thing the way
he does it. But it's worth knowing since it's a
video that the panel he's talking to, it's a black guy,
a white woman, a gay guy, a Hispanic guy, and
an old Asian woman that he's talking to.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And this is how it goes.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
In this hyper sensitive day and age. It's hard to
know who will be offended by what. So I came
up with a list of brand new terms that have
absolutely no racial connotation whatsoever, and to make sure they're safe,
I feel testing them with an extremely diverse focus group.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It's time for thank you guys for coming.
Speaker 12 (32:17):
I would like you just to raise your hand whenever
you feel the term I use is offensive.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Cream jockey. Okay, water flaps.
Speaker 12 (32:28):
Here comes a pack of water flaps.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Lock up your dogs.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
Oh no, that doesn't sound good.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, that doesn't. Okay, okay, sugar taster. What do you
think sugar taster means? I don't know.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
I don't know why you think that he tastes sugar.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Why do you keep pointing to the black person? That's
what they saddle shins mean, A.
Speaker 12 (32:53):
Bunch of stinking saddle shins.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Using sentence, I just did you go with.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Sentence clink clunk, clink clunk clink. Hey, we we did
the rear moorad and we did auto work, and then
you come back to use.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It kind term.
Speaker 12 (33:09):
Okay, that's and not directed toward anyone.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It's just the word clink.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
I don't like it.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
Okay, okay, this is all good research, guys.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
Biscuit neck, God help us if we ever have a
biscuit neck in the White House.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Why did biscuit neck offend you? Oh no, you shouldn't
say that. You shouldn't say biscuit neck. I thought it
was something against whites.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
You thought biscuit neck was negative toward whites.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I appreciate it. Spoon face, I.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Don't like that because lots of Asian that round face,
and do you talking about them?
Speaker 7 (33:43):
I think of a spoon I think of concave.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You think I think it's an Asian slam.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
Huh spoon face yeah, because face half of picker.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Why are you offended by apple? Because no one caught
me an apple picker. What if you were to pick
an apple, I'm still not an apple pick. Let me
find one that you are. Okay, which one can I
call you? Hintoe?
Speaker 12 (34:04):
No water flaps, no kin bird, the bucket dunker, no
dirty legs?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Nah, how about door donkey?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You're finding tenas it is? Well, thank you all for
your time.
Speaker 12 (34:18):
You can collect your ten dollars on your way out.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Ten dollars.
Speaker 12 (34:21):
Yeah, your spoon face apple picker?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's interesting though.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I mean when I watch it the first time, there's
some of those words that made me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Isn't that weird? Yes? Because yeah, clink clunk?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
No wait, dinute, we build the railroads and now you
call it clink clunk? What some of them just know
he said it, were like no exactly, and.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Then the people reacting like, oh, hey, don't call me that,
and then the other guys saying.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
What's the matter with you, biscuit neck? So was it
the sugar taster or sugar eater or whatever that was.
The white woman said, no, wait a second, you calling
him that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I wasn't calling him.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Why are you pointing to the black guy? Well, yeah,
that's yeah weird. Why are you pointing at the black guy.
It's just sugar taste. You're depended on behalf of him
for a made up term that means nothing really interesting psychologically.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Wow, how interesting dirty shitz? I can't.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
I can't come up with that term that we used
to use. It was like dink double incum. No, kids,
it was one of those terms, but it really sounded
like a racial God.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Help us, we ever have a biscuit neck in the
White House. Stop saying that.
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This blew my mind.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
The other day, my husband and I went to a
restaurant and we're sitting there eating and I could just
overhear the conversation happening next to me. It's a mom
and her daughter who's maybe thirteen.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Are you aby, Are you a person that can tune
out people next to you or can't tune out people?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I cannot? Yeah, nuts, I.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Easily can turn out conversations with me, But like I
have friends and family members who can't. And you can't
talk to them if there's someone else talking over there
because they can't stop listening to them.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's I guess you're either built that way or you're not.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
I have a very hard tuning out extraneous audio.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, same here so and I couldn't tune this out
at all. And again, she was maybe thirteen, and they're
talking about something and they weren't agreeing, and this little
girl goes shut up mom, and the mom didn't react,
and they continue to argue, and my jaw dropped because
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when I was raised telling my parents to shut up,
I mean, I've never done that. I have never in
my life told my mom or dad to shut up
in a serious manner. There was one time my dad
and I were joking around and I accidentally went to
shut up, and I stopped dead in my tracks in
fear because I was like, I know those words aren't uttered, right, Yeah,
but I know parenting is changing generationally, Is that okay?
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Is telling your parents to shut up like a normal thing?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Jack?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Have your kids ever dared? One kid did once? But yeah, no,
that was not okay. It did not go well, okay kids, right?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I just I don't know if there's if that's a
shift that's happening where the way you talk to your
parents is changing. But the way that the mom didn't react,
I'm sitting there going.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
What I wouldn't take it in any tone, but was
the tone kind of like the valley go oh, shut up?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
No, they were they were having a serious colle wow
shut your pie hole. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Yeah, so that certainly would not have washed in my house.
I think one of one of the kids may have
tried it at one point and it went very poorly.
But how long is a generation?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
They usually say twenty years?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah, I think okay, well all right, then, well at
least my oldest kid in your youngest kid. I raised
my kids during the previous generation, which is kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But shut up still is not fly with anybody I know.
I don't think if it does, you need to take
a parent in class.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Okay, Like Kevin Hart's got a bit where he's talking
about how it turns out he was mistaken but he
thought his kid he was yelling down to his kid
to do something, and he thought his kid yelled fu
said the words to him, and he just like gets
what He's like, what what just happened here? And the
crowd just goes berserk about the idea of a kid
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saying that to their parents, which I was happy to hear,
but that was just like roundly seen as oh my god,
a nuclear bomb just went off. That is not okay,
how is he going to react to this? It turns
out he mishurt his kid over something like that. But yeah, no,
shut up is not okay any but any world I
know of Okay.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That brings me some comfort because the kid, the girl
was similar to your kid's age, and I was.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But the fact that the mom, I mean, she just
took it, oh boy. That I feel bad for both
of them because.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Almost guaranteed that's a bad situation either happening or going
to happen. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I remember back when I was raising my kids and
would talk about it on the air, and people would
call in or you know, write in with questions and
that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
What I thought, and.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
A number of times I thought, my first piece of
advice is get a time machine, because you're asking me
how do I undo fourteen years of getting it wrong?
And yeah, you know, it's like after your fifth heart
attack saying to your doctor, you know, well, it's you
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know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I came across a great thing on parenting that I
was going to edit for the show because it's long,
but I wish, wish, wish I'd read it when my
kids were young. Jonah Goldberg actually wrote it. He's quoting
a bunch of other people, but he's talking about how
there's a new book by a developmental psychologist who had
(04:57):
never heard of before, Alison Kropnik. But the the name
of the book is The Gardener and the Carpenter, and
she points out that the very word parenting really only
emerged in the fifties and didn't become popular until the
seventies because until the fifties, people generally lived in their hometown,
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near all their relatives, and they would just observe and
everybody's there to help, and you didn't have to learn
about parenting. It was self evident. You saw it all
the time, and your mentors were around you anyway. But
then in the seventies, people got more isolated, more mobile,
they moved away and that sort of thing, and you
had these parenting experts pop up, and.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Often with no kids or mad kids.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Right, that's right, Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of that too.
But ms Gropnik point says that parents began to think
like carpenters, who have a clear idea in mind of
what they're trying to achieve. They look carefully at the
materials they have to work with, AND's their job to
assemble those materials into a finish, the project or product
that can be judged by everyone against clear standards are
the right angles, perfect does the door work? Kropnik notes
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that the messiness and veriability are a carpenter's enemies. Precision
and control are her allies. Measure twice, cut once, etc.
And her thing. And I've got to admit I don't
want to get too deep into this because it's incredibly
serious and will make me very sad. But I was
influenced by a calmnist to is a so called parenting expert,
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and he was very much of the carpenter school. And
when I ran into a kid with special needs, specifically
on the autism spectrum, that was the last thing I needed.
The last thing I needed was a carpenter's point of
view about parenting.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And MS.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Gropnick's thing here and I haven't read the book is
a better way to think about child rearing is as
a gardener. Your job is to create a protected and
nurturing space for plants to flourish. It takes work, but
you don't have to be a perfectionist. Weed the garden,
water it. Step back and the plants will do their
things unpredictably and often with delightful surprises. And it's not
(07:08):
like a hippie dippy anything goes. She's talking about weeding
the garden and doing what needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But you're not a carpenter or a gardener. What exactly
is the carpenter's way. I don't know what you're talking
about as far as the carpenter's view.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Would it be fair to say, it's just like, there's
one way to do it, one size fits all to
get this to come out right?
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Essentially, Yeah, it's cut and dried. There are a list
of rules, you follow them, it'll be fine. As opposed
to a garden, where it's much more about nurturing than
forcing that it's absolutely inevitably going to go sideways at times.
If you're a good carpenter, it doesn't go sideways. You
can make cabinet after cabinet after cabinet, and if a
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mistake is or if something goes wrong, that's utterly unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Whereas as a gardener, something's always going to go wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's what the job is, and you have to adapt.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, the only thing I could say to your situation
you overheard, Katie, because I've kind of lived this myself,
is I've got one kid that's got all kinds of
diagnosed things and kinds of medication and all kinds of things.
He has said and done, things that if his brother
did them, it would be the end of the world.
But the kid that's got all these various situations, he's
(08:24):
not always in control of.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Everything he does.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And also, if you react a certain way you're about
I mean, she might have a kid that if she
had said anything to that kid at that moment about that,
the table's getting flipped over. I mean, the police are
coming that sort of thing. Possibly, I don't.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Even think of that possible circumstance that they're you know,
that all could have had that problem.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Final bit of wisdom learned too late, at least partially,
is when I first became a youth sports coach, I
think I went I can't remember where this came from,
but it was pointed out to me that you don't
coach all of your players the same. You coach all
of your players the way they need to be coached.
(09:08):
Some kids respond well to like the old school disciplined
to bark at them some because some kids shut down
and you're not going to make them a better player
a better person doing that. You got to figure out
how to pick their locks and parenting's a lot like
that too. If you think it's as mathematical and uh
and cut and dried as carpentry, you're gonna do it wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So how did how did the things turn out with
the woman and the kid who said shut up? Did
they just eventually did they stop talking or did they
eventually get up and leave?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
They went back and forth for like maybe another thirty seconds,
and then their food came and I checked out of
that conversation pretty much.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
But yeah, it shocked me.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
But I like that gardening analogy because that makes more
sense that you're going to have more room to kind
of wiggle when things go awry.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I don't know about that mom dealing with her kid,
but like, I only think about my parenting roughly eighty
percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
All day long. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Now that's not to say there are no rules in gardening.
For instance, if you feed gatorade to plants, they will die,
as outlined hilariously in the classic movie slash documentary Idiocracy.
All right, of course, that it wasn't gatorade. It was
called what brono brondo or electrolytes.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's got electrolytes.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
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Speaker 5 (10:48):
I came across this parable and I'm not exactly sure
what to think about it.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think i'd know what to think, but I thought
it was entertaining.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
The donkey told the tiger, grass is blue. The tiger replied, no,
the grass is green. The discussion became heated, and the
two decided to submit the issue to arbitration. So they
approached the lion, who apparently is in charge, of course,
king of the jungle, king of the beasts. Sure, donkey,
donkey's the lion's coabitating, all right and getting in arguments
(11:22):
with tigers anyway. As they approached the lion on his throne,
the donkey started screaming, yours your itis.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Isn't it true the grass is blue?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
The lion replied, if you believe it is true, the
grass is blue. The donkey rushed forward and continued, the tiger.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Disagrees with me. He contradicts me and annoys me.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They should have thrown it. It's a microaggression. Please please
punish him.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
He's triggering me exactly. Yeah, I got to rewrite this
to make it even more sickening. Let's see. The king
then declares the speech. The tiger will be punished with
three days of silence. Keep his giant, beitoothed mouth shut.
That's the pun The donkey jump with joy and went
(12:06):
on his way, content and repeating.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
The grass is blue, The grass is blue.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
The tiger asks the lion, your majesty, why have you
punished me? After all, the grass is green. The lion replied,
you've known and seen that the grass is green. The
tiger asked, so why do you punish me. The lion replied,
that has nothing to do with the question of whether
the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because
(12:30):
it is degrading for a brave, intelligent creature like you
to waste time arguing with an ass and on top
of that, you came and bothered me with that question
just to validate something you already knew was true. The
biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and
fanatic who doesn't care about the truth or reality, but
only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste
(12:51):
time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who,
for all the evidence presented to them, do not have
the ability to understand others who are blind by ego,
hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want
is to be right, even if they aren't.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So arguing with the.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Actual donkey, the donctivist, if you will, I can.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
See what.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I won't, I can see like a great example of
this is when you have the two activist groups screaming
at each other in the street over the barricades, and
the poor cops are rolling their eyes thinking, oh my god,
I hope I go home without.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Getting hit over the head with something that's stupid.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
But if the donkeys of the world have like taken
over your public school, don't you have to as the
lion point out that they're teaching the lion cubs perverse thing.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Does it ever do any good? I'm not sure it
ever does any good? Like you, of course it does. Well,
you have to uh, well, you're not going to convince them.
You just have more people, I guess. I guess the
thing would be if you got other people like witnessing this,
and you've got to convince them, but convincing the one
person they're not going to.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Change their mind.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Well, right, And that's what bothers me a little bit
about this parable, and it's thought provoking anyway. Is if
you go if you as the tiger, for instance, saying
confused adolescent girls should not be told they're actually little
boys because puberty is scary, especially for girls. If you
are the tiger advocating that, and you go to the
(14:29):
lion of the electorate, that's what you have to do.
I mean, if it's just a story about animals in
the forest at each other, then it's not a parable.
It's just a mildly amusing story. But if it's a parable,
it obviously has something to do with as a humankind.
And if you've got the donkey pitching that the grass
(14:50):
is blue and it's like infected the public schools and
your kids come home with a dad, you're wrong, the
grass is blue, and my teacher says you're a hater
and a race for saying that you gotta go to
the lion, don't you.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, yeah, I suppose, But I think the parable works
for just individuals which I was picturing. I wasn't picturing
the public square is just if I recognize the guy
at the end of the bar is like the donkey
about some topic, I'm not going to engage them.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
What's the freaking point? Oh I agree with that one
hundred percent Katie's thoughts on the donkeys.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
There's no place in time or space where donkeys and
lions have been in the same orbit, is there unless
the lion's already full, let alone talking donkeys and talking lions.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, that's what I was stuck on. Yeah, donkey having
a conversation. This is baffling, exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
It's a parable you know, I'm skulls come on over
my head.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, you're right. It's an individual thing and fair enough.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And very very true. Do not Well, I know some
people feel it seems like they enjoy it. There's no
point in arguing with some people bought some topics.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Well, and the fact that a lot of people just
want to be quote unquote, they want to win the argument.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
They don't care if they're right. It works both ways too.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I mean, and sometimes I've been I don't think I've
ever said this, but I've been in conversation before where
I could say, look, I've thought and read about this
a lot. Nothing's gonna change my mind. I mean, you
can say it louder and slower if you like your opinion,
but it's not going to change my mind. So or
you can hint that I'm an idiot for not agreeing
with you, but you're really wasting your time and.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Mine, you donkey.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Interestingly enough, Kentucky bluegrass is not blue either.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's slightly bluer.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I was disappointed in that by a kid as a kid,
not by a kid as a kid. When I heard
about bluegrass, I thought, this is gonna be awesome. My
dad got bluegrass for the yard, didn't inform it. All
the other kids are going to be so jealous. Now,
oh yeah, grass is blue as Merged Simpson's hair. This
is gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You guys just ruined my dad. I didn't know this.
You didn't, all right?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
No, never been to Kentucky then, huh? Now I have not,
and I have all these dreams. I just pictured blue
lawns everywhere.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I pictured that too. Yeah, I pictured that, and I
just had it in my mind. It looks so fantastic,
turned on not.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
To be true.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Bluebirds are blue? Oh the berries are blue. There's their
asses Green WTF.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
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Speaker 3 (17:38):
At one points, as a child, for some reason, I
thought would be a good idea to stick my finger
in a pencil sharper.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I don't remember how old I was, But anyway, I've
got one finger that the fingernail on top still has
white spots on there from that. They never went away.
The fingernail continues to grow. But the cuts that I've
put deep into my fingernail causing me great pain from
the pencil sharpener still on my fingernail.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Do you think you're like seven or seventeen?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I was twenty eight, it was thirty one. Yeah, I
was more like seven. Sure, yeah, Well we all do
silly stuff like that. You know what I've always wondered
about scars? What's the deal with scars?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I have, you know, various places on my body where
I got cut open or whatever. My skin has regenerated
hundreds of times, thousands of times.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I'm not a dermatologist, But why does my skin regenerate scars?
I mean, at one point when I was born, that
skin was on scarred, so you'd think that would be
programmed into my genetics.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't get that.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I don't understand either. Clearly happens, but yeah, why it
doesn't regenerate? Your face does mostly, but the rest of
your body does not.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I mean, like, right up there, I got a notch
there and one there, and I got scars there and there,
and they've eat it a bit over the years, but
they're still there.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I don't get that.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
When you and your orangutang used to travel around the
country and a pickup and do that bare knuckle street fighting.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Yeah, I mean it was choreographed, but sometimes, you know,
his mighty ape blows would land upon my head.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
It's an old movie you've never heard of, Katie from
way back in the day, Clint Eastwood street fighting with
an orangutang.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Okay, Like, wow, Joe, you've done some things I haven't
heard about in my life.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
What a life, What a ride it's been, Kay, I'll
tell you about it sometimes. But so anyway, if you're
just segueing from the February twentieth Armstrong and Getty radio
show or the on demand podcast into one more thing.
The pencil sharpener reference will be familiar to it. We
talked about it during the radio show today. But the
situation is, your your friend announces his intention to put
(19:49):
his finger into a power pencil sharpener, and you tell him, well, Jim,
if you do that, it's going to shred your finger,
be incredibly painful, and you're gonna bleed a great deal.
Then he says, well, I feel like I must do it,
and he sticks his fing here and there, and precisely
what you describe happens, and he's standing there screaming, oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
My finger.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
It's intensely painful, it's shredded, and now it's bleeding a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
What are you going to say at that point?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
We feel like that having been desperately trying to talk
sense to the people of America, particularly the West Coast,
as it's implemented these utterly predictably disastrous progressive policies, and
I just I suppose I should take we should take satisfaction.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
No, but no, because the finger had to be shredded. Yeah,
that's just stupid.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And there are businesses that I liked to have been
driven out of business by the crime.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Right, for instance.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
So this is not quite as serious as the crime
and that's part of the reason this is so enjoyable.
And before we launch into it, and we're going to
play a fair amount of audio from ABC seven in
the Bay Area, and I would suggest if you ever
watch Bay Area news, I would give ABC seven a
good long audition, because if they're doing a report like this,
(21:08):
they deserve your love, or at least give them a chance,
because there are plenty of Bay Area media outlets who
wouldn't get within one thousand miles of this story. We'll
start Michael with the first clip and go from there.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
By now you've probably heard of the infamous Noe Valley
public toilet and how San Francisco was ready to dish
out one point seven million dollars for its construction rather
than pay for a much cheaper modular model from a
company in Nevada. Here's why San Francisco could not would
not do business with any entity in that state. San
Francisco had a ban on doing business with thirty states
(21:43):
that had laws that undermined LGBTQ and voting rights, as
well as blocking abortion access.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
It was those states against.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
San Francisco, and that eventually became too costly for city government.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Thenoe Valley bath them is not a one off case.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
That's a problem that is replicated throughout our city government.
Speaker 9 (22:04):
Or we couldn't buy toilet paper from where we historically
bought toilet paper. These market players are smart enough to
know that they had a captive audience and they could
raise their prices.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
That is mind blowing, That is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I would suggest a rephrase from our point of view
for ABC seven undermining LGBTQ rights and voter rights or
whatever they said. That's mischaracterizing reasonable policy. But so you
got a situation where San Francisco is banned doing anything
including travel with thirty different American states.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
So if you got to buy toilet paper instead of
buying at the cheapest place, you spend more taxpayer money
to send a nobody even hears it, tree falling in
the forest virtual signaling message about trans writes or something.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Well, and if you end up in a situation where
you've only got twenty states left and they don't happen
to have paper mills except for one boutique firm in Massachusetts,
and so you end up buying five dollars a roll
toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Stupid idiots. Next time, prequal matter, stupid idiots.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Nice wife economics one oh one competition results in lower prices. Also,
because of the ban, public employees were not allowed to
travel to one of those thirty states to potentially lure
companies to bring business back to San Francisco. The city
tried to get arounded by granting waivers, and between July
(23:39):
twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, thirty five city
departments approved a total of five hundred and thirty eight waivers.
The problem there, even the process of granting waivers was
costing the city more money in added staff and paperwork.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
In one case, the Recreation and Parks.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Department had to get a waiver to do business.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
With a local LGBTQ vendor.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Who had recently been acquired you guessed it, by another
company in one of those thirty banned states.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
Because of that, we couldn't use her services until we
got a special dispensation, which took a really long time
and was frustrating for us and for her.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Wow, the state is drunk. You'd have to work on
being stupid. For a long time to reach that level
of virtuosity.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Roland Michael jack Jack comment, No.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I'm just going to say, you can see how you'd
get here. So the people who vote on this stuff
are moros, are divorced from reality.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Another way to put her.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
They're either morons or they are so cynical they virtue
signal to stay in office knowing that this stuff happens.
But either way, it's horrible, and then the voter doesn't
really understand or hear about it. But there's got to
be a lot of people in government that are completely
aware of the repercussions of these dumb bands, and they
(25:06):
keep their mouths shut. I guess there should be a
bigger pushback against this roll on big Daddy.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Time is money, and a report by the Budget and
Legislative Analysts found that while it is difficult to measure
how the city's contracting costs have been affected by the legislation,
researchers have found that full and open competition for contracts
can result in savings up to twenty percent. After that report,
(25:34):
San Francisco finally cried uncle, and last April, the Bard
of Supervisors voted to get rid of the van Instead,
San Francisco government now allowed itself to do business with
any individual company that aligns with its values.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Then we'll do business with that company, regardless of where
it's located. And so we had to adjust the law
because San Francisco was getting.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Hurt at some point.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Yeah, so they were their need to virtue signal by
demanding the companies quote unquote align with their values whatever
the hell that means, and it changes week to week.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
But so they finally figured out that.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Say there's a company that's so woke in Nevada they
only employ transgender gay men.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I mean, that's their entire staff.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
But San Francisco couldn't do business with them because they reside.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
In the evil and scary state of Nevada. Boogerty boogety boogey.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
If you practiced your violin as much as they practice stupid,
you'd be it'sak pearlman.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
It's infuriating.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
How someone could How can anyone listen to this and
not have their head want to explode?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I don't know, And that's that's a pretty good question, Katie.
Are there people that hear that and think I don't care?
They are there people like that? God? Well, they shouldn't
be in charge of anything. Oh, they should have mind,
they should. They shouldn't like be alone in an apartment
or something.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Should probably be on a leash. Just state they should
they don't wander off and hurt themselves. Next clip.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
So the city lifted some of the restrictions on who
they do business with. It still has a long list
of conditions and requirements that companies, industries, states, and even
countries must follow in order to do business with San Francisco.
Up to now, only one city department has been given
a reprieve to operate outside of some of those rules,
(27:29):
the Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing. That's how they've
been allowed to expedite the construction of shelters and housing.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
It saves us at least three months on every project
that we open and has allowed us to be nimble
and take advantage of opportunities to open new projects and
spend the resources that the public has entrusted us with.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, I think unfortunately on that one. It's just that
one is millions and millions and millions of dollars flying around,
and the people that are supposed to get that millions
of dollars got a lot of pull and they aren't
gonna let it get all bogged down with your nonsense,
so they found a way around it.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Right. But to hear her.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Say, oh, it's allowed us to be nimble and like
take advantage of opportunities and save money and be efficient.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
But only for bums and junkies.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, because, like I said, there are so many people
receiving those tens of millions of dollars in the whole
homeless industrial complex.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You don't have.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
An interest group on the other end of paying for
toilet paper to try to, you know, make it happen
in a more sane way.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, in the.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Useful idiots say, well, that is such an important and
sacred mission. Okay, well let's spend all the rules. I
think that is very important. Yeah, people making a living,
keeping the city from going into a death spiral. Yeah,
would get people having reasonable you know, cleanliness and freedom
from crime in their neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That is not worthy.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
You were right tipping your hat to ABC seven News
there in San Francisco, because that is some brave work
right there. You're like practically Alexi Navolny to do that
story in San Francisco. But what was I gonna say, oh,
did you see over the weekend Scott Wiener, who's like
maybe our least favorite politician in world history in San Francisco,
full of craziness. Finally, because he has been forced into it,
(29:16):
has put forward some changes where they do away with
a bunch of the impossible environmental rules, so you could
build some housing, or some businesses could come back in
to San Francisco because it's just made it impossible.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
So the homeless industrial complex is trump the radical left
for the moment, or at least they're trying.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
That's a lovely victory. Leanne Melendez, congratulations ABC seven. Again,
we'll post a link if you want to see the
whole report. I think we can do that, but well done,
ABC seven.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
God, that's so crazy, that's so crazy. We need to
buy copy paper for the city where we been buying it, Alabama.
Alabama's not trans friendly, so we won't buy it from
the It costs twice as much tomor else.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I don't care. Of course you don't care. It's not
your money. Oh God, that's maddening. And again the company
is owned by a gay black man.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
They give one hundred percent of your profits to to
I don't know Panda sanctuaries, but because they're in the
state of Alabama, they're tainted by the evil of that
map location, and so you stupid morons can't buy your
paper from there.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
They give one of their profits to pass every last time.
Oh yeah, they don't hold back a dime either.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Absolutely right, as as the woke numb skulls stick their
finger in the pencil sharpener.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
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There was some term we were using on the show
years ago that we said sounded like a racial slurn,
like we were uncomfortable saying.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
But it wasn't a racial slurn anyway. Do you remember
what it was? I don't remember what it was, but it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Was, Oh yeah, it's on the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'll try to come up with it.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
About It was just it was just a word, and
it's like made you uncomfortable sing And even though I
didn't have any meeting. Well, this is part of the
Daniel Tosh bit. Here that I came across on YouTube
last night. Daniel Tosh, fairly famous as a comedian for
brushing pretty closely up against racist comments in his comedy
and getting big laughs out of it. Katie, you're familiar
with Tosh, Oh yeah, he's a funny guy. Oh well,
(31:39):
and sex stuff and he just operates on the edge.
So he'll set up this focus group thing the way
he does it. But it's worth knowing since it's a
video that the panel he's talking to, it's a black guy,
a white woman, a gay guy, a Hispanic guy, and
an old Asian woman that he's talking to.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And this is how it goes.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
In this hyper sensitive day and age. It's hard to
know who will be offended by what. So I came
up with a list of brand new terms that have
absolutely no racial connotation whatsoever, and to make sure they're safe,
I feel testing them with an extremely diverse focus group.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It's time for thank you guys for coming.
Speaker 12 (32:17):
I would like you just to raise your hand whenever
you feel the term I use is offensive.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Cream jockey. Okay, water flaps.
Speaker 12 (32:28):
Here comes a pack of water flaps.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Lock up your dogs.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
Oh no, that doesn't sound good.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, that doesn't. Okay, okay, sugar taster. What do you
think sugar taster means? I don't know.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
I don't know why you think that he tastes sugar.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Why do you keep pointing to the black person? That's
what they saddle shins mean, A.
Speaker 12 (32:53):
Bunch of stinking saddle shins.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Using sentence, I just did you go with.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Sentence clink clunk, clink clunk clink. Hey, we we did
the rear moorad and we did auto work, and then
you come back to use.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It kind term.
Speaker 12 (33:09):
Okay, that's and not directed toward anyone.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It's just the word clink.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
I don't like it.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
Okay, okay, this is all good research, guys.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
Biscuit neck, God help us if we ever have a
biscuit neck in the White House.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Why did biscuit neck offend you? Oh no, you shouldn't
say that. You shouldn't say biscuit neck. I thought it
was something against whites.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
You thought biscuit neck was negative toward whites.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I appreciate it. Spoon face, I.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Don't like that because lots of Asian that round face,
and do you talking about them?
Speaker 7 (33:43):
I think of a spoon I think of concave.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You think I think it's an Asian slam.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
Huh spoon face yeah, because face half of picker.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Why are you offended by apple? Because no one caught
me an apple picker. What if you were to pick
an apple, I'm still not an apple pick. Let me
find one that you are. Okay, which one can I
call you? Hintoe?
Speaker 12 (34:04):
No water flaps, no kin bird, the bucket dunker, no
dirty legs?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Nah, how about door donkey?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You're finding tenas it is? Well, thank you all for
your time.
Speaker 12 (34:18):
You can collect your ten dollars on your way out.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Ten dollars.
Speaker 12 (34:21):
Yeah, your spoon face apple picker?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's interesting though.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I mean when I watch it the first time, there's
some of those words that made me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Isn't that weird? Yes? Because yeah, clink clunk?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
No wait, dinute, we build the railroads and now you
call it clink clunk? What some of them just know
he said it, were like no exactly, and.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Then the people reacting like, oh, hey, don't call me that,
and then the other guys saying.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
What's the matter with you, biscuit neck? So was it
the sugar taster or sugar eater or whatever that was.
The white woman said, no, wait a second, you calling
him that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I wasn't calling him.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Why are you pointing to the black guy? Well, yeah,
that's yeah weird. Why are you pointing at the black guy.
It's just sugar taste. You're depended on behalf of him
for a made up term that means nothing really interesting psychologically.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Wow, how interesting dirty shitz? I can't.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
I can't come up with that term that we used
to use. It was like dink double incum. No, kids,
it was one of those terms, but it really sounded
like a racial God.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Help us, we ever have a biscuit neck in the
White House. Stop saying that.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
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