July 31, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of the Wednesday July 31, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- Sound Fridge Trans 1st to Have an Abortion / Bud Light Fooled
- Rocky Mountain Oysters
- Bear & Caesar
- Affleck Smart Guy or Dumb Guy
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and Gatty and He Armstrong
and Getty Strong and hey we're Armstrong and Getty. We're
featuring our podcast One more Thing. Find it wherever you
(00:37):
find all your podcasts. So let's clean out the sound fridge.
We've got a bunch of great audio the crew got
together that we didn't get to. This is an example.
You could call it nutpicking, which is an expression I
really don't like. It's where you pick out a particularly
wacky member of you know, the other ideology and feature them.
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But this one, I just think number one. There's so
many of these, And the setup is you're not supposed
to say, Wow, that's a person with real mental problems
who needs help. You're supposed to say, oh, you're so brave.
Clip number five Michael he the.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
First trans woman to have a successful uterus transplant overis
and eggs included. And I want to be the first
trans woman to have an abortion. Oh my god, I
will let a doctor who has successfully transplanted a uterine
complex before cut the organs out of a willing, healthy
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trans masculine donor place them in my body. I will
devote myself, heart and soul to their aftercare. And I
want to be the first trans woman to have an abortion.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You are full on mentally ill and evil. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, And any doctor who would perform that surgery knowing
that those are his plans, yeah, should lose their.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
No, it is god, that is just sick. That's somebody
who has terrible mental problems. Then you're right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It is not picking to a certain extent, it's taking
like an extreme example of the people you don't agree
with in kind of act and then trying to pretend
sometimes that it represents a large point of view, which
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
This does not. But though Joe Biden met with that poor,
unfortunate Dylan mulvaney character to show how down he was
with the trans folks, absolutely, and uh well and.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Bud Light thought it was important enough to make it
part of their advertising campaign to their demise. But where
did that video audio come from? I mean, how what
platform was that on to even.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Be they posted it online on I think it was
TikTok wow, and the people who compile crazy progressives, you know,
re retweeted it or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
There's a lot of things that go into this phenomenon
that's happening right now. But part of it is everybody
needs to be famous or you know, seen or liked
or whatever, and you know it's getting harder and harder
to do. It's a crowded field, so you have to
be so out there to get some attention. And well
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you talk about it's leading attention.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, and he's talking about a willing trans masculine man.
So is that a woman who's becoming a man who
doesn't want her puss anymore?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Correct, Yes, I don't math like this. This isn't working
in my head.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, well I got to admit at some point, and
I'll bet I'm not the only one. As he was
describing who he was going to do what with and
that they were trans this and masculine, I was I
was like, I need a chart. I'm losing track of,
like who's who's going to bring the sperm to this party?
Because I'm lost.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
For instance, he's bringing the sperm and the bonus hols
to this party.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh boy, again with that term I love. Oh oh.
So I saw a bud Light commercial. I think it
was during the All Star Game which as we record,
this was last night, and I didn't watch much of
it because my beloved giants have angered me and I'm
just not a baseball fan anymore. But the bud Light commercial,
and they never enunciated it, but it was like people
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screwing up a guy, you know, dropping the meat on
the way to the grill, I can't remember the specifics,
and somebody smelling something, and then somebody breaking something, and
then it went to bud Light. So easy to drink,
so easy to enjoy, And it didn't occur to me
until I was like, oh, oh, they're making light of
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the fact that they really fed up. And their commercial
theme is look at everybody, everybody f's up now.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And again, Yeah, dropping the ribs on the ground is
not the same as making a decision.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I'm sure sure there were.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
A half dozen or more people involved in of a
giant marketing campaign.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, not to take this too serious. Leave it very briefly.
What the bud Light is a beautiful example of is
that Anheuser Busch, or at least the people involved in
the bud Light marketing, became convinced, perhaps because they're personally
down with it, but became convinced that that very tiny
but outsized minority of Americans who pitches all this radical
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gender theory stuff represents most people. They got fooled, and
then reality, which bat's last speaking of baseball said not
so much. We'll drink any other beer, literally, any other beer. Well,
let's keep cleaning out the Suffridge's. Thanks metal guy. Ah,
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let's see. Oh, Michael, do you want to introduce clip eleven?
Is there anything we need to know?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
A kid goes into Dunkin Donuts and has four dollars
with him, and he wants some strawberry donuts and uh,
he basically ends up wanting to get a few donuts
and ends up with the whole box. Okay, so he
explains how how he got him.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Because they didn't have the type of donut I wanted.
She gave me a deal.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I could get cool strawberry donuts for the price of one,
and I decided, can I get two for that deal?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So I get to pie my money.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
That's so sweet of you. I wanted some munchkins, but
they didn't have that either. She gave me the right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
If you all there is a tool.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Dollars that is one very pleased woman with the number
of cheap donuts she got.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Wow, our sun drives a hard bargain. So what do
you mean you're out of munchkins? Holy cal How are
we going to make this right? I'm asking you for
the manager, please, Karen in the main.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yes, exactly, how are you going to make this right?
It's because I'm black, right, or a child or a
woman or something.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
You've been racistly out of munchkins.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
He's gonna end up running a hedge fund or something.
Keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You send them trans didn't you, And that's why you
wouldn't make more of these? Would you like me to
go publicize?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Oh God, give him as many donuts as you want
to get him out of here. Michael, let any introduction
necessary to twelve Katie might be able to relate to this.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
This is when a guy gives you mixed signals.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
Here's why he's giving you mixed signals. He's either unsure
about you, the relationship, or both. If he's truly interested,
he'll put in the effort consistently. So don't waste your
time on a guy who's indecisive. Your job is not
to convince someone, but to find someone who doesn't need convincing.
If a guy stop talking to you, remember this quote.
If your absence doesn't bother them, your presence never mattered
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to them. You don't belong with someone who doesn't want you.
He's done you a favor by eliminating himself.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That's a good spitting truth.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I know my reaction is dull.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, well, that's one of the best things that Sex
and the City ever came up with. That whole he's
just not that into me. Thing as opposed to torturing
yourself for both men and women, as opposed to torturing yourself. Well,
why somebody is you know, didn't call you back or
they always I've just I've been so busy, don't you know,
don't tie myself into knots because I've done this over it.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
They just don't dig you that much, So move on. Yeah,
I'm not shocked to hear you say that, Katie. We
don't know you well, we've only worked together a fairly
short time. But you do strike me as more tethered
to reality as opposed to what you wish were reality
than some folks.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Well, I mean I appreciate that, and I feel like
if you're dating somebody, and they aren't calling you back.
And this is the fifth time that he says, Oh
I was busy, Hello, wake up.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
But I think it's pretty obvious he doesn't want to
talk to you.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
It's tough, though, if you really really want something to
be true though, to let go of that, I mean,
that's easier.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Said than done.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Oh yeah, that's why you have to like rededicate yourself
to clinging to reality over and over again in your life.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
If he isn't being bothered by your absence, he didn't
care much about your presence. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, no kidding, gun doubled me over. Oh and let's
end on a positive note, shall we, Michael, why don't
you go ahead and roll thirteen? Then I've got the
details if we need them. Well, what made you want
to do murder mystery?
Speaker 9 (09:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I just always love mysteries reading them.
Speaker 10 (09:35):
I do a little bit of TikTok and why not?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So I think I'm gonna go ahead and get a
second one.
Speaker 10 (09:40):
I'm gonna get it on there and see if we
can get you a little bit of love on there.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (09:44):
I want to thank everybody for the love and the
kindness on the video that read posted is totally unexpected.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I'm in shock.
Speaker 10 (09:53):
I don't even know what to say about it at
the moment. I'm trying to wrap my head around it.
Thank you again for all the kindness.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So here's the story. This uh, this gent who's he
looks to be I would say, in his sixties, well
into his sixties. He's a retired man, a veteran of
the Armed services, and he is living his lifelong dream
of being an author. But he was sitting alone and
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ignored at a folding table at his local grocery store
in Texas with his novel, hoping people might ask him
about it or if he could sign a copy or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
That's a I don't come across that that often tables
with novelists sitting there.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
And the image was heartbreaking this video.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Are you interested in my novel? I gotta get out
to my car. You know, it's so funny. And you're right, Katie,
I have this weird thing where if I'm like at
a craft fair, Judy and Alo, you know whatever the
August days or whatever the what sits festival, and I'll
walks through the craft fair and it hurts my heart Yep,
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like everybody who's sitting there alone in their booth being ignored.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Some old lady who who paints glass and puts a
little string on it that you can hang from something. Yeah,
and nobody and nobody's coming by her booth, and you know,
she puts a lot of time and effort into that,
and puts some time and effort to showing up to
the little, you know, garlic festival.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And yeah, it's painful for me too, the guy with
the nice cutting boards whatever, I just it's it's painful anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And I don't have the heart to say, wake up, granny,
nobody's interested in your colored glass.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
O.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Folks abuse, Oh lord, soulless Jack runs around screaming at
grannies anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
So uh, this TikToker uh Shaw Jared swear Engine. He
he walked in the store and he sees this guy
and he wonders what's going on, and he figures out
he's got a book to selling on and he walks
back out to his car and he says to himself,
wait a minute, I keep thinking about this guy. I'm
gonna go back in and talk to him. And so
he talked to him, and he videoed him, and as
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he said in the caption, he said, you know what,
let me put this on my TikTok. Maybe we'll get
you some love. The guy describing his book and everything
think rockets to the top of the best seller lists
The freaking power of the Internet. Is a book any
good modern?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Or is it just a whole bunch of people feeling
like you were describing? Where we feel bad for the
old guy tried to write a novel. It's a dream,
you know what.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
It happened so quickly.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I would imagine they probably went straight to Amazon and
gave him a high rating. But his books did sell
out that day as well.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It was a dark and stormy night. Lee Howard and
the Ghosts of Simmons Pierce Manner sounds good. Are the
hardy boys in it? Sounds like the hardy boys are
in it. That would be a copyright infringement, Jack, But
it's a ghost, an orphaned girl who uses the help
of ghostly companions to solve the murder of her parents.
All rightspelling stuff, man, It's all the execution, obviously pelling stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That's ultimately a story about kindness and the kind spirit
of a humanity.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That's what it is. I think it is, unless it
turns out this TikToker dude demanded a cut.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh, somebody is going to the Internet's going to get
a hold of the old guy and find out anything
he's ever done untoward in his life.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No change his story around.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
No nursery store is a weird spot for a book signing,
it is, That's what I'm saying. You're trying to reach
the pickles, and this guy's sitting there with his books
the table.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
So I walked by the one table says can you
give us some money for youth sports? And then I
got them to the other table. It's a guy with
a novel I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
And then on the way out you're being sold chocolate bars,
right exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, but inside the story even you're thinking, yeah, I
got to get some some ground beef for the hamburgers tonight.
You gotta get buns and ketchup, and probably ought to
find a good summer beach rade too. An obscure novel,
said nobody, but sounds good. I mean they solved the
murder of her parents. Sure in favor of that. If
it gone unsolved, it'd be disappointed. Well, right, yeah, I
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guess these sound. Fridge is now reasonably clean.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, that mayonnaise was past its date. I'm glad I
didn't open it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
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Speaker 1 (14:27):
My son brought up I thought we were gonna eat
Rocky Mountain oysters when we were in Kansas, and I forgot.
He's been wanting to try rocky mountain oysters. Which have
you ever been anywhere, Katie. You're a lifetime Bay Area person.
They probably don't have rocky Mountain oysters anywhere there.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
No, I have not had rocky Mountain oysters.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But it was as common as anything could be as
bar food for me, like in college, and that sort
of stuff. Cow testicles fried up And I told my
son we'd try and when we were back in which
you taught us see Grandma and Grandpa, but we forgot
to we will make Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Darn you know me, I believe it's karmically unacceptable. It's just,
you know, I don't belong to any religion that forbids
me from eating any particular foods. But I've crafted my
own set of beliefs, and I will not eat another
man's even if it is a cow man. I will
not eat another creature's testicules.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
What about juggling them, I asked, because I did that.
I juggled pig testicles for charity. Oh really I did.
They were quite slick.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Mm.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That is one of my favorite things you've ever said.
You know, I didn't see that coming. I juggled pig
testicles for charity. They were quite slick. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The feed lots in western Kansas used to once a
summer they have what they called a ball fry because
they had such a so many of them built up
over a year of castration, had a ball fry, and
that's everybody would come out. And that's how you go
through them all.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, I suppose it is putting them to use as
opposed to just throw them, yeah, wasting uh or juggling
them like some sort of savage.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
It was entertaining. So now we played tug war with
the intestines after it was a long day.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh my lord. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
We called it the meat circus.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It was a whole thing. What was yeah, what was
the charity.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Oh, I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It was something that was going against PETA, though I
remember donating to like, I think it was a butcher
shop or something.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So we were a fundamentalist militia.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
The charity wasn't The charity wasn't neuticles for ballless hogs.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Was it that?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know, weird circular logic thing there. Uh So
this reminded me of a Saturday A Live bit from
Saturday Night The idea because these uh rocky Mountain oysters
you could get him with your cheeseburger where you got
fries or that or whatever, and they did you see
the shrimp tower skit on Saturday Night Live?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
James Brolin, That's what makes so funny. One of the
greatest actors of all time playing the lead role. Anyways,
He's throwing a very fancy party and he has a
shrimp tower and it's just, you know, a little shrimp
built up to the shape of a tower. Anyway, he
called it the thinking Man's mozzarella Stick, which I thought
very funny.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That is dryly hilarious. Wow, maybe loll that is funny.
I'll have to seek that out. Strong and Giddy Show
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Speaker 1 (17:46):
I really like to know what's hot. I just partially
I think it's good for the radio show. Partially, I
just I'm interested in. I like to know if there's
a super hot band, super hot movie, super hot whatever,
clothing style, whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I just like to know.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And so the other day I'm walking through the newsroom
and Jensen, who you may have heard on our show before,
she's in the newsroom. She said, do you watch The Bear?
I said, to what now? She said, it is my
favorite show of all time, not just my favorite show
right now, it's the best TV show ever. And I thought, wow,
we ought to have you on to talk about it.
And then, weirdly, in the next forty eight hours, I
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came across a couple of different articles or tweets or
whatever from people saying this season of The Bear might
be better than last season. It's my favorite TV show
of all time. We brought it up on the radio show.
We got a number of text when people say it's
my favorite show ever ever. That's a heck of a
thing to say.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
A story about a guy who takes a trained bear
around the country playing county fairs. Makes the thing dance.
Yeah right, it on cocaine occasionally.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It's a guy who drives from town to town in
an old truck, engaging in street fights, and he's got
this charming bear that rides with him.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That sounds terrific solves people's problems. Anyway, we got a
couple of clips from the Bear. It's actually it's a
story about the guy who's like a brilliant, gifted chef
and his brother runs a Chicago sandwich shop, dies and
he has to take over the family business. That's the
broad outlines or the very basic outline. Cool. Well, here's
here's the first clip.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
This is a delicate ecosystem and it's held together by
a shared history, a love.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I have every intention of turning this into a respectable
place of business.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Eventually. That's funny. The music reminds me.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I'd read a couple of different places that the soundtrack
for the Bear is just fantastic. That's one of the
things that draws people in. But I did ask to
be Wilco there in the background. The only way I
can watch a TV show is if my kids can
watch it. So I asked Jensen. I said, is it
okay for kids? She said absolutely not. And I guess
this next clip will make that evident. It's some of
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the tension in the kitchen. Let's hear it, Hebra, make.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Sandwiches, don't stop making sandwiches. I'm gonna make three sections. Okay,
They're gonna.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Be wet, hot weed, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I'm gonna take green tape. Make those sections.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Louis. I want you to get the sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Put them on the course finding sections today.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Yes, Mark, you gonna fire every single chicken we have, please?
Speaker 10 (20:12):
Okay, Ritchie, do you even know how to do price?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
There?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Marcus, where are we on?
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Cakes?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Get in there?
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Getting it there? What?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Marcus?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Still working on this?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
What are you tripping for? It doesn't make a difference.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
There's four kicks and still going to cut it. They're
not even cut yet.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
There's that big of a do.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Is I am?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm doing them in fine.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Afford them and die everything, fire everything right.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Okay, I'll fire everything now. I just was finishing.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Step out the Marcus and step out. Okay. I'm gonna
talk to Marcus.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Thank you. We're firing, seventy six pieces, thirty four chickens Okay,
twelve French twelve.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Mash a Deli version Gordon Ramsey.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, I'm intrigued.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I heard sandwich from people, from people I've known who
worked in kitchens.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That is a relatively accurate. Yeah. Wow, Wow, It's like
if the Sopranos are making sandwiches. I'll check it out.
I'll probably watch an episode tonight. Yeah. And there's obviously,
if people are raving about it, there's there's much more
to it than the mechanics or what can be described.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Oh yeah, obviously, if you can, if you can give
a good flavor, if your pardon the fun pun of
a show with a thirty second clip, and ain't ain't
that great?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It ain't. That's probably a bad show, right exactly. It's
like a song you love the first time you hear,
it's probably gonna bother you by the third time. Exactly. Yeah.
And in being a pigheaded idiot, it took me a
while to understand that great documentaries are all about people.
They're all about humankind and our struggles and whether it's well,
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it's a story about a guy who trims bear's fingernails
at a zoo, and I'm thinking I don't have any
particular interest in bear's fingernails. But it's an award winning documentary.
Just watch it. It's gonna end up being about life,
right anyway, do we have time for that? While I
suppose the podcast we can make it as long as
we want to where Joe Rogan we got three hours left, No,
(22:31):
thank you, my froat already hurts. At the end of
the radio show, came across this Twitter thread that I
thought was absolutely terrific, and we'll post a link for
you at Armstrong and Getty dot com. It's an analysis
of how Julius Caesar started his political career. And this
historian said he was Rome's second greatest orator after Cicero.
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And here are nine lessons from a brilliant early speech
of his that made his take off. And he wasn't
as a young man. He came from a good family,
but he wasn't really taken very seriously. He was deep
and dead. He had a reputation as a playboy. He
had kind of a Matt Gaitsitz's reputation.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
If I may, he said, I got this idea for
a salad nobody would listen.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Right exactly, raw eggs. What are you crazy? Anyway? In
sixty three BC, the conspiracy of Cataline was unearthed. Evidence
came forward to plots to murder senators, burn the city
of Rome, overthrow the republic. You can look more into
it if you want. But the Senate in Rome declared
martial law to avert the danger and said, essentially that
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the danger is so severe there's no time for trials.
We've just got around these people up and execute them.
And Caesar thought that was a bad idea, and he
delivered a speech in the Senate against summary execution. And
according to this historian, his speech is a master class
in swaying a group gripped by fear and anger away
from acting on their urges. And I don't know if
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we'll go through all of this, but we'll do part
of it. Number One, Name the emotions your audience is feeling.
And some of this if to you who are like
more intuitive, persuasive, you're good at you know, you're good
at speaking and influencing people. It's maybe a little obvious
to you, but I just thought it was interesting to
see it laid out. So name the emotions your audience
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is feeling that you need them to not act on.
Chris Voss calls this tactical empathy. Caesar begins by doing
this in order to clear a little room for reason.
Quote members of the Senate, all men who deliberate upon
difficult questions had best be devoid of hatred, friendship, anger,
and pity. When those feelings stand in the way, the
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mind cannot at all easily discern the truth. And no
one has ever served at the same time his passions
and his best interests. When you apply your intellect, it prevails.
If passion takes control, it is master, whereas the mind
is entirely impotent. And has been my experience, it has
absolutely been my experience. That would be incredibly unpopular in
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politics today, where anger and passion and yeah, is like
it's the only thing that matters practically. Oh. I read
another study the other day as a tangent that people
are much easier to mislead when they're anger. When they're angry,
you can convince them of about anything if it feeds
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their anger. Oh really, that's an interesting thought, and I thought, Yeah,
I kind of got hung up on that because I thought, yeah,
not only another person can convince me of something when
I'm angry, but I can convince me of stuff that
later I think. That's not true, that's not healthy, it's
not good. That other person isn't guilty of that. You're
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more easy to mislead when you're angry. Anyway, Caesar went
on to say, you're going to have a really giant baby.
I got a plan for that, let's see. But that's
not enough. Number two, tell us story as quickly as possible.
Are several, preferably stories that appeal to the audience's identity.
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Stories from history are good, especially if you're talking to
a group. Caesar said in the Punic Wars, although the Carthaginians,
both in peace time and during truces, often did many
abominable deeds, our ancestors never did likewise when they had
the opportunity, but they took into consideration what conduct would
be consistent with their dignity, rather than what action could
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be justified against the Carthaginians, so appealed to the shared
history of the group. Number three, make very clear what
the story means and how it relates to your point.
Caesar's point in the speech is showing restraint was essential
to the romans coming to dominate the world. That was
one of their best qualities. Restraint is in your best
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interests you Likewise, members of the Senate must see to
it that the villainy of Popelius, life and the rest
do not have more weight with you than your own dignity,
and that you do not take more thought for your
anger than for your good name. Number four, affirm emotions,
while making clear they are not relevant to the decision,
especially if other voices are actively trying to stir up
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those emotions against your advice. Again, empathy plus reason. Are
they trying to get us angry? We're already angry. In
other words, here's what he said. Most of those who
have expressed their opinions before me have deplored the lot
of the nation in well structured, grand language. They recounted
the horrors of the war, the wretched fate of the conquered,
the rape of maidens and boys, children torn from their parents' arms,
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matrons subjected to the will of the victor's, shrines and
houses pillaged, bloodshed, knacks of arson in short everywhere, arms
and corpses, gore and lamentation. But by the immortal gods,
what was the aim of that eloquence was it to
make you detest the conspiracy. You know, if this is
the second greatest orator in Rome, and I believe the guys,
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I gotta read more cissera. That is so good. Number
five praise your opponents, good intentions, build common ground with
the real people you need to persuade. We don't do
any of that anymore, not really. And he mentions one
of the guys who's on the other side of it.
He calls him a gallant and dedicated man who said
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what he said out of patriotism. I know this man's
character and such his moderation. So he singles out one
of his main opponents, praises him up and down, and
by the way slips in and moderation is his greatest quality.
That happens to be what I'm arguing for anyway. Number
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six appeal to tradition and self explanatory. Number seven cite
more history to show this is a dangerous precedent going
in the other direction. Number eight recommend an alternative. He
recommended that they have the guilty guys all their assets
confiscated and then be sent to prisons throughout Italy, probably
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to await a trial. Once the danger passed, who everybody
could calm the f down? Ah, then here's the twist,
plot twist. The Senate was swayed at first, but then
Cato the Younger delivered a speech in favor of execution.
The Senate adopted Cato's proposal and recommended Cicero execute the prisoners.
So Caesar lost. Ooh, but that brings us to number nine.
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Taking stance for moderation can be good even if you lose.
Caesar probably knew he wouldn't win, but he had an
additional motivation. Cataline raised an army of ten thousand by
championing the interests of the poor, down trodden, disaffected at
Rome the ninety nine percent. When Cataline failed and died,
the poor and down trodden remembered Caesar as a champion
of their lost cause because he was reasonable and just,
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and indeed he became the emperor. And then number ten.
Crutons are the key to my salad. They allow a
crunch that you wouldn't otherwise have anchovies or no. Now
I am staunchly pro anchovy. Yeah, I'm disgusted by anchovies.
There are fishers, right, not or something? They're a fisher
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something yeah, a fish or rat, a fish or a shoestring. No,
they're a fish. Very salty sounds disgusting.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
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Speaker 1 (30:45):
Get it wherever you like to get podcasts. Your view
on Ben Affleck smart guy, dumb guy, hot guy, don't care.
He's not bad looking, he's all right.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
He was World Sexiest Man once for People magazine. Oh
at last once. He is dead sexy. You can't deny it.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, but he I think he comes off as a dope,
which makes you less sexy.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Well, and in all a lot of the photos I've
seen of him, at least recently, he always looks mad.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well, he's a drunk.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
So uh, there's the drunks, unless you, you know, find
a way to deal with it, tend to be quite
unhappy when they're not drunk.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So I came across this. This was Ben Affleck in
two thousand and three talking about the future of entertainment
and I was blown away about you know how how
much he nailed. Michael, we can stop this right and
restart it, you know, stop.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
It's completely impossible. Yes, of course we can. You all right,
go ahead roll it.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
I believe that the industry has been too slow to
embrace and adopt these paradigms. If you look at historically
in terms of technologies, in terms of consumer based technologies,
you have like basically shared where that introduces the consumer
to it at no cost, at which point the consumers
on the hook they figured out, they worked out the care,
they've figured out how to interact with it, and how
to exploit it, and then you truge a fee in
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the consumer's directory has been willing to pay that fee.
I think I think an annual subscription based system is
one that works. You have the music business three point
four billion dollars a year business, okay, which is largely
about one point seven million people in the country spending
two hundred dollars a year. That same people would spend
those two hundred dollars a year each year to have
us access to basically the entire library, but just in music.
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And of course you continue to read for subscription because
you pay for new music. World would be paid more
directly to the to the artists. You have less overhead,
you pay no shipping, packaging, and you pay no You
know that there's this mammoth amount of executives at music
companies that are allowing off.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
A lot of that money. I believe that paradigm is
the most effective productive. That's the paradigm that Adam Smith
would most want. I think their inefficiencies in the market now,
and I think they're being worked out. I think file
sharing is pushing the industry toward that balance because you
know it's because of its availability right now.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Well, actually it's just going to video on demand, movies
on demand, because bottom line is going to eventually affect
your guys's pocketbooks.
Speaker 10 (33:05):
If piracy container.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
The star super movies and it will be won't It'll
be moving onto end, but it'll be a tear structure.
It'll be like if you want to watch it first weekends,
maybe it won't be available first weekend, but then if
you want to watch it, you know you'll pay more,
and then as it goes to another stage and its release,
it'll become less expensive. But there's a lot more adoption
that has to happen technologically speaking right now before people
can watch movies or at least integrate in terms of
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the PC web connection. You know, the technology is not
quite there yet, but it will be within I would
say five years.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
That's pretty impossive. And he drops in Adam Smith in there.
I changed my mind about Ben Affleck.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You know, I don't know how far ahead of his
time was, but if I'd been listening to that and
had some cash around, I might have thought, Wow, people
are going to be streaming music instead of buying it physically.
I ought to get on the ground floor of whoever's
doing that.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I don't remember what was going on in two thousand
and three, that's clear back in like Napster days, wasn't
it Like.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
That's exactly because I was trying to think, why would
he be talking about this? But this is when Napster
and LimeWire were really big for people pirrating music.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Now, Michael, you or someone that you knew, not you,
you wouldn't do that. Now, someone you knew used to
get pirated movies like somehow do you remember how they
had all sorts.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
Of burning DVD software that yeah, people could do and.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
They would just find him on websites online, you.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Could find him online, you could uh take to physical
media and then copy it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
There were things that got around the you.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Know, can that same person still do that to this
day or is it harder now?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Oh I'm sure you can.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, you can definitely do it today. But it just
not makes sense. Fight would point.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's yeah, it doesn't make make sense. So I guess
Ben Affleck's point was what you're calling pirting and file
sharing and all that is clearly the way things are going.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
And and well you didn't. He didn't catch his term.
And for whatever reason, his Austin accent was really coming
out there. Did he not work as hard back then
to get rid of his his sharewere it's whip is
piss and smart. The sharewear you gotta have the sharewear.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
That was kind of funny. Oh yeah, with the sharewear,
Picky cot Jimmy's getting He's got sharewear for you. You
give you a floppy this just take it from him.
Well it's another How smart is that? Celebrity Wednesday?
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find all your podcasts. So let's clean out the sound fridge.
We've got a bunch of great audio the crew got
together that we didn't get to. This is an example.
You could call it nutpicking, which is an expression I
really don't like. It's where you pick out a particularly
wacky member of you know, the other ideology and feature them.
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But this one, I just think number one. There's so
many of these, And the setup is you're not supposed
to say, Wow, that's a person with real mental problems
who needs help. You're supposed to say, oh, you're so brave.
Clip number five Michael he the.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
First trans woman to have a successful uterus transplant overis
and eggs included. And I want to be the first
trans woman to have an abortion. Oh my god, I
will let a doctor who has successfully transplanted a uterine
complex before cut the organs out of a willing, healthy
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trans masculine donor place them in my body. I will
devote myself, heart and soul to their aftercare. And I
want to be the first trans woman to have an abortion.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You are full on mentally ill and evil. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, And any doctor who would perform that surgery knowing
that those are his plans, yeah, should lose their.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
No, it is god, that is just sick. That's somebody
who has terrible mental problems. Then you're right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It is not picking to a certain extent, it's taking
like an extreme example of the people you don't agree
with in kind of act and then trying to pretend
sometimes that it represents a large point of view, which
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
This does not. But though Joe Biden met with that poor,
unfortunate Dylan mulvaney character to show how down he was
with the trans folks, absolutely, and uh well and.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Bud Light thought it was important enough to make it
part of their advertising campaign to their demise. But where
did that video audio come from? I mean, how what
platform was that on to even.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Be they posted it online on I think it was
TikTok wow, and the people who compile crazy progressives, you know,
re retweeted it or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
There's a lot of things that go into this phenomenon
that's happening right now. But part of it is everybody
needs to be famous or you know, seen or liked
or whatever, and you know it's getting harder and harder
to do. It's a crowded field, so you have to
be so out there to get some attention. And well
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you talk about it's leading attention.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, and he's talking about a willing trans masculine man.
So is that a woman who's becoming a man who
doesn't want her puss anymore?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Correct, Yes, I don't math like this. This isn't working
in my head.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, well I got to admit at some point, and
I'll bet I'm not the only one. As he was
describing who he was going to do what with and
that they were trans this and masculine, I was I
was like, I need a chart. I'm losing track of,
like who's who's going to bring the sperm to this party?
Because I'm lost.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
For instance, he's bringing the sperm and the bonus hols
to this party.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh boy, again with that term I love. Oh oh.
So I saw a bud Light commercial. I think it
was during the All Star Game which as we record,
this was last night, and I didn't watch much of
it because my beloved giants have angered me and I'm
just not a baseball fan anymore. But the bud Light commercial,
and they never enunciated it, but it was like people
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screwing up a guy, you know, dropping the meat on
the way to the grill, I can't remember the specifics,
and somebody smelling something, and then somebody breaking something, and
then it went to bud Light. So easy to drink,
so easy to enjoy, And it didn't occur to me
until I was like, oh, oh, they're making light of
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the fact that they really fed up. And their commercial
theme is look at everybody, everybody f's up now.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And again, Yeah, dropping the ribs on the ground is
not the same as making a decision.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I'm sure sure there were.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
A half dozen or more people involved in of a
giant marketing campaign.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, not to take this too serious. Leave it very briefly.
What the bud Light is a beautiful example of is
that Anheuser Busch, or at least the people involved in
the bud Light marketing, became convinced, perhaps because they're personally
down with it, but became convinced that that very tiny
but outsized minority of Americans who pitches all this radical
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gender theory stuff represents most people. They got fooled, and
then reality, which bat's last speaking of baseball said not
so much. We'll drink any other beer, literally, any other beer. Well,
let's keep cleaning out the Suffridge's. Thanks metal guy. Ah,
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let's see. Oh, Michael, do you want to introduce clip eleven?
Is there anything we need to know?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
A kid goes into Dunkin Donuts and has four dollars
with him, and he wants some strawberry donuts and uh,
he basically ends up wanting to get a few donuts
and ends up with the whole box. Okay, so he
explains how how he got him.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Because they didn't have the type of donut I wanted.
She gave me a deal.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I could get cool strawberry donuts for the price of one,
and I decided, can I get two for that deal?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So I get to pie my money.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
That's so sweet of you. I wanted some munchkins, but
they didn't have that either. She gave me the right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
If you all there is a tool.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Dollars that is one very pleased woman with the number
of cheap donuts she got.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Wow, our sun drives a hard bargain. So what do
you mean you're out of munchkins? Holy cal How are
we going to make this right? I'm asking you for
the manager, please, Karen in the main.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yes, exactly, how are you going to make this right?
It's because I'm black, right, or a child or a
woman or something.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
You've been racistly out of munchkins.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
He's gonna end up running a hedge fund or something.
Keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You send them trans didn't you, And that's why you
wouldn't make more of these? Would you like me to
go publicize?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Oh God, give him as many donuts as you want
to get him out of here. Michael, let any introduction
necessary to twelve Katie might be able to relate to this.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
This is when a guy gives you mixed signals.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
Here's why he's giving you mixed signals. He's either unsure
about you, the relationship, or both. If he's truly interested,
he'll put in the effort consistently. So don't waste your
time on a guy who's indecisive. Your job is not
to convince someone, but to find someone who doesn't need convincing.
If a guy stop talking to you, remember this quote.
If your absence doesn't bother them, your presence never mattered
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to them. You don't belong with someone who doesn't want you.
He's done you a favor by eliminating himself.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That's a good spitting truth.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I know my reaction is dull.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, well, that's one of the best things that Sex
and the City ever came up with. That whole he's
just not that into me. Thing as opposed to torturing
yourself for both men and women, as opposed to torturing yourself. Well,
why somebody is you know, didn't call you back or
they always I've just I've been so busy, don't you know,
don't tie myself into knots because I've done this over it.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
They just don't dig you that much, So move on. Yeah,
I'm not shocked to hear you say that, Katie. We
don't know you well, we've only worked together a fairly
short time. But you do strike me as more tethered
to reality as opposed to what you wish were reality
than some folks.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Well, I mean I appreciate that, and I feel like
if you're dating somebody, and they aren't calling you back.
And this is the fifth time that he says, Oh
I was busy, Hello, wake up.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
But I think it's pretty obvious he doesn't want to
talk to you.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
It's tough, though, if you really really want something to
be true though, to let go of that, I mean,
that's easier.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Said than done.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Oh yeah, that's why you have to like rededicate yourself
to clinging to reality over and over again in your life.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
If he isn't being bothered by your absence, he didn't
care much about your presence. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, no kidding, gun doubled me over. Oh and let's
end on a positive note, shall we, Michael, why don't
you go ahead and roll thirteen? Then I've got the
details if we need them. Well, what made you want
to do murder mystery?
Speaker 9 (09:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I just always love mysteries reading them.
Speaker 10 (09:35):
I do a little bit of TikTok and why not?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So I think I'm gonna go ahead and get a
second one.
Speaker 10 (09:40):
I'm gonna get it on there and see if we
can get you a little bit of love on there.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (09:44):
I want to thank everybody for the love and the
kindness on the video that read posted is totally unexpected.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I'm in shock.
Speaker 10 (09:53):
I don't even know what to say about it at
the moment. I'm trying to wrap my head around it.
Thank you again for all the kindness.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So here's the story. This uh, this gent who's he
looks to be I would say, in his sixties, well
into his sixties. He's a retired man, a veteran of
the Armed services, and he is living his lifelong dream
of being an author. But he was sitting alone and
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ignored at a folding table at his local grocery store
in Texas with his novel, hoping people might ask him
about it or if he could sign a copy or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
That's a I don't come across that that often tables
with novelists sitting there.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
And the image was heartbreaking this video.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Are you interested in my novel? I gotta get out
to my car. You know, it's so funny. And you're right, Katie,
I have this weird thing where if I'm like at
a craft fair, Judy and Alo, you know whatever the
August days or whatever the what sits festival, and I'll
walks through the craft fair and it hurts my heart Yep,
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like everybody who's sitting there alone in their booth being ignored.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Some old lady who who paints glass and puts a
little string on it that you can hang from something. Yeah,
and nobody and nobody's coming by her booth, and you know,
she puts a lot of time and effort into that,
and puts some time and effort to showing up to
the little, you know, garlic festival.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And yeah, it's painful for me too, the guy with
the nice cutting boards whatever, I just it's it's painful anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And I don't have the heart to say, wake up, granny,
nobody's interested in your colored glass.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
O.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Folks abuse, Oh lord, soulless Jack runs around screaming at
grannies anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
So uh, this TikToker uh Shaw Jared swear Engine. He
he walked in the store and he sees this guy
and he wonders what's going on, and he figures out
he's got a book to selling on and he walks
back out to his car and he says to himself,
wait a minute, I keep thinking about this guy. I'm
gonna go back in and talk to him. And so
he talked to him, and he videoed him, and as
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he said in the caption, he said, you know what,
let me put this on my TikTok. Maybe we'll get
you some love. The guy describing his book and everything
think rockets to the top of the best seller lists
The freaking power of the Internet. Is a book any
good modern?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Or is it just a whole bunch of people feeling
like you were describing? Where we feel bad for the
old guy tried to write a novel. It's a dream,
you know what.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
It happened so quickly.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I would imagine they probably went straight to Amazon and
gave him a high rating. But his books did sell
out that day as well.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It was a dark and stormy night. Lee Howard and
the Ghosts of Simmons Pierce Manner sounds good. Are the
hardy boys in it? Sounds like the hardy boys are
in it. That would be a copyright infringement, Jack, But
it's a ghost, an orphaned girl who uses the help
of ghostly companions to solve the murder of her parents.
All rightspelling stuff, man, It's all the execution, obviously pelling stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That's ultimately a story about kindness and the kind spirit
of a humanity.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That's what it is. I think it is, unless it
turns out this TikToker dude demanded a cut.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh, somebody is going to the Internet's going to get
a hold of the old guy and find out anything
he's ever done untoward in his life.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No change his story around.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
No nursery store is a weird spot for a book signing,
it is, That's what I'm saying. You're trying to reach
the pickles, and this guy's sitting there with his books
the table.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
So I walked by the one table says can you
give us some money for youth sports? And then I
got them to the other table. It's a guy with
a novel I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
And then on the way out you're being sold chocolate bars,
right exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, but inside the story even you're thinking, yeah, I
got to get some some ground beef for the hamburgers tonight.
You gotta get buns and ketchup, and probably ought to
find a good summer beach rade too. An obscure novel,
said nobody, but sounds good. I mean they solved the
murder of her parents. Sure in favor of that. If
it gone unsolved, it'd be disappointed. Well, right, yeah, I
(14:03):
guess these sound. Fridge is now reasonably clean.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, that mayonnaise was past its date. I'm glad I
didn't open it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
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Speaker 1 (14:27):
My son brought up I thought we were gonna eat
Rocky Mountain oysters when we were in Kansas, and I forgot.
He's been wanting to try rocky mountain oysters. Which have
you ever been anywhere, Katie. You're a lifetime Bay Area person.
They probably don't have rocky Mountain oysters anywhere there.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
No, I have not had rocky Mountain oysters.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But it was as common as anything could be as
bar food for me, like in college, and that sort
of stuff. Cow testicles fried up And I told my
son we'd try and when we were back in which
you taught us see Grandma and Grandpa, but we forgot
to we will make Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Darn you know me, I believe it's karmically unacceptable. It's just,
you know, I don't belong to any religion that forbids
me from eating any particular foods. But I've crafted my
own set of beliefs, and I will not eat another
man's even if it is a cow man. I will
not eat another creature's testicules.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
What about juggling them, I asked, because I did that.
I juggled pig testicles for charity. Oh really I did.
They were quite slick.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Mm.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That is one of my favorite things you've ever said.
You know, I didn't see that coming. I juggled pig
testicles for charity. They were quite slick. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The feed lots in western Kansas used to once a
summer they have what they called a ball fry because
they had such a so many of them built up
over a year of castration, had a ball fry, and
that's everybody would come out. And that's how you go
through them all.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, I suppose it is putting them to use as
opposed to just throw them, yeah, wasting uh or juggling
them like some sort of savage.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
It was entertaining. So now we played tug war with
the intestines after it was a long day.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh my lord. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
We called it the meat circus.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It was a whole thing. What was yeah, what was
the charity.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Oh, I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It was something that was going against PETA, though I
remember donating to like, I think it was a butcher
shop or something.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So we were a fundamentalist militia.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
The charity wasn't The charity wasn't neuticles for ballless hogs.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Was it that?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know, weird circular logic thing there. Uh So
this reminded me of a Saturday A Live bit from
Saturday Night The idea because these uh rocky Mountain oysters
you could get him with your cheeseburger where you got
fries or that or whatever, and they did you see
the shrimp tower skit on Saturday Night Live?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
James Brolin, That's what makes so funny. One of the
greatest actors of all time playing the lead role. Anyways,
He's throwing a very fancy party and he has a
shrimp tower and it's just, you know, a little shrimp
built up to the shape of a tower. Anyway, he
called it the thinking Man's mozzarella Stick, which I thought
very funny.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That is dryly hilarious. Wow, maybe loll that is funny.
I'll have to seek that out. Strong and Giddy Show
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(17:44):
it wherever you like to get podcasts.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I really like to know what's hot. I just partially
I think it's good for the radio show. Partially, I
just I'm interested in. I like to know if there's
a super hot band, super hot movie, super hot whatever,
clothing style, whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I just like to know.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And so the other day I'm walking through the newsroom
and Jensen, who you may have heard on our show before,
she's in the newsroom. She said, do you watch The Bear?
I said, to what now? She said, it is my
favorite show of all time, not just my favorite show
right now, it's the best TV show ever. And I thought, wow,
we ought to have you on to talk about it.
And then, weirdly, in the next forty eight hours, I
(18:21):
came across a couple of different articles or tweets or
whatever from people saying this season of The Bear might
be better than last season. It's my favorite TV show
of all time. We brought it up on the radio show.
We got a number of text when people say it's
my favorite show ever ever. That's a heck of a
thing to say.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
A story about a guy who takes a trained bear
around the country playing county fairs. Makes the thing dance.
Yeah right, it on cocaine occasionally.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It's a guy who drives from town to town in
an old truck, engaging in street fights, and he's got
this charming bear that rides with him.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That sounds terrific solves people's problems. Anyway, we got a
couple of clips from the Bear. It's actually it's a
story about the guy who's like a brilliant, gifted chef
and his brother runs a Chicago sandwich shop, dies and
he has to take over the family business. That's the
broad outlines or the very basic outline. Cool. Well, here's
here's the first clip.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
This is a delicate ecosystem and it's held together by
a shared history, a love.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I have every intention of turning this into a respectable
place of business.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Eventually. That's funny. The music reminds me.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I'd read a couple of different places that the soundtrack
for the Bear is just fantastic. That's one of the
things that draws people in. But I did ask to
be Wilco there in the background. The only way I
can watch a TV show is if my kids can
watch it. So I asked Jensen. I said, is it
okay for kids? She said absolutely not. And I guess
this next clip will make that evident. It's some of
(19:49):
the tension in the kitchen. Let's hear it, Hebra, make.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Sandwiches, don't stop making sandwiches. I'm gonna make three sections. Okay,
They're gonna.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Be wet, hot weed, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I'm gonna take green tape. Make those sections.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Louis. I want you to get the sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Put them on the course finding sections today.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Yes, Mark, you gonna fire every single chicken we have, please?
Speaker 10 (20:12):
Okay, Ritchie, do you even know how to do price?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
There?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Marcus, where are we on?
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Cakes?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Get in there?
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Getting it there? What?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Marcus?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Still working on this?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
What are you tripping for? It doesn't make a difference.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
There's four kicks and still going to cut it. They're
not even cut yet.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
There's that big of a do.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Is I am?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm doing them in fine.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Afford them and die everything, fire everything right.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Okay, I'll fire everything now. I just was finishing.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Step out the Marcus and step out. Okay. I'm gonna
talk to Marcus.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Thank you. We're firing, seventy six pieces, thirty four chickens Okay,
twelve French twelve.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Mash a Deli version Gordon Ramsey.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, I'm intrigued.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I heard sandwich from people, from people I've known who
worked in kitchens.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That is a relatively accurate. Yeah. Wow, Wow, It's like
if the Sopranos are making sandwiches. I'll check it out.
I'll probably watch an episode tonight. Yeah. And there's obviously,
if people are raving about it, there's there's much more
to it than the mechanics or what can be described.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Oh yeah, obviously, if you can, if you can give
a good flavor, if your pardon the fun pun of
a show with a thirty second clip, and ain't ain't
that great?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It ain't. That's probably a bad show, right exactly. It's
like a song you love the first time you hear,
it's probably gonna bother you by the third time. Exactly. Yeah.
And in being a pigheaded idiot, it took me a
while to understand that great documentaries are all about people.
They're all about humankind and our struggles and whether it's well,
(22:08):
it's a story about a guy who trims bear's fingernails
at a zoo, and I'm thinking I don't have any
particular interest in bear's fingernails. But it's an award winning documentary.
Just watch it. It's gonna end up being about life,
right anyway, do we have time for that? While I
suppose the podcast we can make it as long as
we want to where Joe Rogan we got three hours left, No,
(22:31):
thank you, my froat already hurts. At the end of
the radio show, came across this Twitter thread that I
thought was absolutely terrific, and we'll post a link for
you at Armstrong and Getty dot com. It's an analysis
of how Julius Caesar started his political career. And this
historian said he was Rome's second greatest orator after Cicero.
(22:56):
And here are nine lessons from a brilliant early speech
of his that made his take off. And he wasn't
as a young man. He came from a good family,
but he wasn't really taken very seriously. He was deep
and dead. He had a reputation as a playboy. He
had kind of a Matt Gaitsitz's reputation.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
If I may, he said, I got this idea for
a salad nobody would listen.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Right exactly, raw eggs. What are you crazy? Anyway? In
sixty three BC, the conspiracy of Cataline was unearthed. Evidence
came forward to plots to murder senators, burn the city
of Rome, overthrow the republic. You can look more into
it if you want. But the Senate in Rome declared
martial law to avert the danger and said, essentially that
(23:40):
the danger is so severe there's no time for trials.
We've just got around these people up and execute them.
And Caesar thought that was a bad idea, and he
delivered a speech in the Senate against summary execution. And
according to this historian, his speech is a master class
in swaying a group gripped by fear and anger away
from acting on their urges. And I don't know if
(24:04):
we'll go through all of this, but we'll do part
of it. Number One, Name the emotions your audience is feeling.
And some of this if to you who are like
more intuitive, persuasive, you're good at you know, you're good
at speaking and influencing people. It's maybe a little obvious
to you, but I just thought it was interesting to
see it laid out. So name the emotions your audience
(24:25):
is feeling that you need them to not act on.
Chris Voss calls this tactical empathy. Caesar begins by doing
this in order to clear a little room for reason.
Quote members of the Senate, all men who deliberate upon
difficult questions had best be devoid of hatred, friendship, anger,
and pity. When those feelings stand in the way, the
(24:46):
mind cannot at all easily discern the truth. And no
one has ever served at the same time his passions
and his best interests. When you apply your intellect, it prevails.
If passion takes control, it is master, whereas the mind
is entirely impotent. And has been my experience, it has
absolutely been my experience. That would be incredibly unpopular in
(25:07):
politics today, where anger and passion and yeah, is like
it's the only thing that matters practically. Oh. I read
another study the other day as a tangent that people
are much easier to mislead when they're anger. When they're angry,
you can convince them of about anything if it feeds
(25:28):
their anger. Oh really, that's an interesting thought, and I thought, Yeah,
I kind of got hung up on that because I thought, yeah,
not only another person can convince me of something when
I'm angry, but I can convince me of stuff that
later I think. That's not true, that's not healthy, it's
not good. That other person isn't guilty of that. You're
(25:51):
more easy to mislead when you're angry. Anyway, Caesar went
on to say, you're going to have a really giant baby.
I got a plan for that, let's see. But that's
not enough. Number two, tell us story as quickly as possible.
Are several, preferably stories that appeal to the audience's identity.
(26:12):
Stories from history are good, especially if you're talking to
a group. Caesar said in the Punic Wars, although the Carthaginians,
both in peace time and during truces, often did many
abominable deeds, our ancestors never did likewise when they had
the opportunity, but they took into consideration what conduct would
be consistent with their dignity, rather than what action could
(26:33):
be justified against the Carthaginians, so appealed to the shared
history of the group. Number three, make very clear what
the story means and how it relates to your point.
Caesar's point in the speech is showing restraint was essential
to the romans coming to dominate the world. That was
one of their best qualities. Restraint is in your best
(26:54):
interests you Likewise, members of the Senate must see to
it that the villainy of Popelius, life and the rest
do not have more weight with you than your own dignity,
and that you do not take more thought for your
anger than for your good name. Number four, affirm emotions,
while making clear they are not relevant to the decision,
especially if other voices are actively trying to stir up
(27:17):
those emotions against your advice. Again, empathy plus reason. Are
they trying to get us angry? We're already angry. In
other words, here's what he said. Most of those who
have expressed their opinions before me have deplored the lot
of the nation in well structured, grand language. They recounted
the horrors of the war, the wretched fate of the conquered,
the rape of maidens and boys, children torn from their parents' arms,
(27:39):
matrons subjected to the will of the victor's, shrines and
houses pillaged, bloodshed, knacks of arson in short everywhere, arms
and corpses, gore and lamentation. But by the immortal gods,
what was the aim of that eloquence was it to
make you detest the conspiracy. You know, if this is
the second greatest orator in Rome, and I believe the guys,
(28:00):
I gotta read more cissera. That is so good. Number
five praise your opponents, good intentions, build common ground with
the real people you need to persuade. We don't do
any of that anymore, not really. And he mentions one
of the guys who's on the other side of it.
He calls him a gallant and dedicated man who said
(28:22):
what he said out of patriotism. I know this man's
character and such his moderation. So he singles out one
of his main opponents, praises him up and down, and
by the way slips in and moderation is his greatest quality.
That happens to be what I'm arguing for anyway. Number
(28:43):
six appeal to tradition and self explanatory. Number seven cite
more history to show this is a dangerous precedent going
in the other direction. Number eight recommend an alternative. He
recommended that they have the guilty guys all their assets
confiscated and then be sent to prisons throughout Italy, probably
(29:03):
to await a trial. Once the danger passed, who everybody
could calm the f down? Ah, then here's the twist,
plot twist. The Senate was swayed at first, but then
Cato the Younger delivered a speech in favor of execution.
The Senate adopted Cato's proposal and recommended Cicero execute the prisoners.
So Caesar lost. Ooh, but that brings us to number nine.
(29:27):
Taking stance for moderation can be good even if you lose.
Caesar probably knew he wouldn't win, but he had an
additional motivation. Cataline raised an army of ten thousand by
championing the interests of the poor, down trodden, disaffected at
Rome the ninety nine percent. When Cataline failed and died,
the poor and down trodden remembered Caesar as a champion
of their lost cause because he was reasonable and just,
(29:50):
and indeed he became the emperor. And then number ten.
Crutons are the key to my salad. They allow a
crunch that you wouldn't otherwise have anchovies or no. Now
I am staunchly pro anchovy. Yeah, I'm disgusted by anchovies.
There are fishers, right, not or something? They're a fisher
(30:11):
something yeah, a fish or rat, a fish or a shoestring. No,
they're a fish. Very salty sounds disgusting.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
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the Smoke. This is when a blind neighbor teaches Jack
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Speaker 2 (30:33):
Arm Strong? And this is the Armstrong and Getty Show,
featuring our podcast One More Thing.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Get it wherever you like to get podcasts. Your view
on Ben Affleck smart guy, dumb guy, hot guy, don't care.
He's not bad looking, he's all right.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
He was World Sexiest Man once for People magazine. Oh
at last once. He is dead sexy. You can't deny it.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, but he I think he comes off as a dope,
which makes you less sexy.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Well, and in all a lot of the photos I've
seen of him, at least recently, he always looks mad.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well, he's a drunk.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
So uh, there's the drunks, unless you, you know, find
a way to deal with it, tend to be quite
unhappy when they're not drunk.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So I came across this. This was Ben Affleck in
two thousand and three talking about the future of entertainment
and I was blown away about you know how how
much he nailed. Michael, we can stop this right and
restart it, you know, stop.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
It's completely impossible. Yes, of course we can. You all right,
go ahead roll it.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
I believe that the industry has been too slow to
embrace and adopt these paradigms. If you look at historically
in terms of technologies, in terms of consumer based technologies,
you have like basically shared where that introduces the consumer
to it at no cost, at which point the consumers
on the hook they figured out, they worked out the care,
they've figured out how to interact with it, and how
to exploit it, and then you truge a fee in
(32:04):
the consumer's directory has been willing to pay that fee.
I think I think an annual subscription based system is
one that works. You have the music business three point
four billion dollars a year business, okay, which is largely
about one point seven million people in the country spending
two hundred dollars a year. That same people would spend
those two hundred dollars a year each year to have
us access to basically the entire library, but just in music.
(32:26):
And of course you continue to read for subscription because
you pay for new music. World would be paid more
directly to the to the artists. You have less overhead,
you pay no shipping, packaging, and you pay no You
know that there's this mammoth amount of executives at music
companies that are allowing off.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
A lot of that money. I believe that paradigm is
the most effective productive. That's the paradigm that Adam Smith
would most want. I think their inefficiencies in the market now,
and I think they're being worked out. I think file
sharing is pushing the industry toward that balance because you
know it's because of its availability right now.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Well, actually it's just going to video on demand, movies
on demand, because bottom line is going to eventually affect
your guys's pocketbooks.
Speaker 10 (33:05):
If piracy container.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
The star super movies and it will be won't It'll
be moving onto end, but it'll be a tear structure.
It'll be like if you want to watch it first weekends,
maybe it won't be available first weekend, but then if
you want to watch it, you know you'll pay more,
and then as it goes to another stage and its release,
it'll become less expensive. But there's a lot more adoption
that has to happen technologically speaking right now before people
can watch movies or at least integrate in terms of
(33:29):
the PC web connection. You know, the technology is not
quite there yet, but it will be within I would
say five years.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
That's pretty impossive. And he drops in Adam Smith in there.
I changed my mind about Ben Affleck.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You know, I don't know how far ahead of his
time was, but if I'd been listening to that and
had some cash around, I might have thought, Wow, people
are going to be streaming music instead of buying it physically.
I ought to get on the ground floor of whoever's
doing that.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I don't remember what was going on in two thousand
and three, that's clear back in like Napster days, wasn't
it Like.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
That's exactly because I was trying to think, why would
he be talking about this? But this is when Napster
and LimeWire were really big for people pirrating music.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Now, Michael, you or someone that you knew, not you,
you wouldn't do that. Now, someone you knew used to
get pirated movies like somehow do you remember how they
had all sorts.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
Of burning DVD software that yeah, people could do and.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
They would just find him on websites online, you.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Could find him online, you could uh take to physical
media and then copy it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
There were things that got around the you.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Know, can that same person still do that to this
day or is it harder now?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Oh I'm sure you can.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, you can definitely do it today. But it just
not makes sense. Fight would point.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's yeah, it doesn't make make sense. So I guess
Ben Affleck's point was what you're calling pirting and file
sharing and all that is clearly the way things are going.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
And and well you didn't. He didn't catch his term.
And for whatever reason, his Austin accent was really coming
out there. Did he not work as hard back then
to get rid of his his sharewere it's whip is
piss and smart. The sharewear you gotta have the sharewear.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
That was kind of funny. Oh yeah, with the sharewear,
Picky cot Jimmy's getting He's got sharewear for you. You
give you a floppy this just take it from him.
Well it's another How smart is that? Celebrity Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Next Wednesday, we'll do Leonard DiCaprio idiot or genius.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
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