July 31, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Wednesday July 31, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- Final Dead & Co Shows...
- LBJ Pants...
- Elton John...
- CO Teacher Don't Tread on Me Patch.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Jack Armstrong, Joe.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Getty, Armstrong and Getty, and He Armstrong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
This is the Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our podcast
One More Thing, Get it wherever you like to get podcasts.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I saw an article in New York Times about the
Final Dead shows happening in San Francisco over the weekend.
They played Friday, Saturday, Sunday night final shows of their tour.
They said there's chances they'll get back together again for
a benefit or something, but they're never going to tour again,
they claim. I don't think they probably actually are. They've
made that claim many times over the years. They're very old. Yeah,
(00:56):
bubblers like Joe biden Old and I noticed him well
he was as an adult during the Summer of Love
in nineteen sixty seven. Yeah, that's one of the things
I want to bring up with this phenomenon. So, speaking
of it being a phenomenon, one of the reasons I
went was, it's a phenomenon. I haven't been to a
concert in I think fifteen years, so it had been
(01:16):
a long time. So i'd been to a concert, and
Dead and Company was coming to the area. It's sixty
miles from my house, and I kind of thought about
it a couple of times. Then I looked at prices.
They're too high. Anyway, I finally decided, you know what,
I'm going to do it. So I bought a ticket
two hours before, three hours before the show started, hopped
on my motorcycle, rode into San Francisco to the baseball line,
(01:40):
and and didn't even pay a ton for it. Luckily,
I think people started to panic, some of the people
that had put I'll say you won for eight thousand
dollars for starting to panic if they had some left,
so it didn't get a bad price. Anyway, I was
trying to figure out while I was sitting there in
the concert, I was trying to figure out, what is
the phenomenon of the whole grateful Dead thing. You mentioned.
They've been doing this for fifty five years, fifty seven years,
(02:04):
something like that, with only a couple of exceptions. Every
song they play is fifty plus years old. They haven't created,
they haven't created anything new and forever, and the crowd
and the place, I don't know if it was sold out,
but I didn't see any empty seats up in the stands.
The crowd varied. There were lots of twenty somethings, there
(02:27):
were lots of thirty somethings, forty something, fifty something, sixty something,
seventy somethings, every age group there. And I don't know
what they created or why. I just I was just
looking around, trying to take it all in, trying to
figure out what what happened here? Why has nobody else
ever been able to do this. I remember when we
were in Charlotte, North Carolina, the Grateful Dead came through
(02:52):
in the mid nineties, and I didn't know anything about
the Grateful Dead. I've never really been into the Grateful Dead.
They came through town and I didn't go to the concert.
I was at a party that night at a house,
and a number of people had been to the Dead
concert and they This is pre internet, So in the
Internet era, obviously you can go online and check what
the set list is for every concert and they would
(03:13):
be posted as soon as the concert is over. But
this is before the Internet. So these guys would run home,
and some of them took scraps of paper and pens
with them. Some of them are just using their knowledge
and they're sitting there at the kitchen table at this
party saying, okay, so what did they play first set? Well,
they opened with this, open with that. They writing it
all down, They kept the log of all the concerts
they'd seen in the set list in a way that
(03:33):
just I don't think happens that often with bands. Part
of it is they don't play that many songs because
each song is thirteen to fifteen minutes long. So you
play like four songs, take a break, play four more songs,
and your three hours are up. That's one weird aspect
of the whole thing. The other thing is they don't
come out and say a word, and never have, according
(03:55):
to the New York Times, they don't say, hey, Atlanta,
good to be here. There is one from the new
while you know, thanks for coming, or nothing. They don't
see now.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
They wander out and start playing.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
The wonder I'll start playing and when they're done, they
walk off and that's it. And and from the beginning.
Another interesting thing is they've always encouraged people recording it
and posting live recordings, and they got gazillions alive albums
and just well, do you tell me what is different
about that band that allowed them to tour for fifty
(04:27):
some years. I was just looking up still one of
the top grossing concert tours out there. They didn't play
that many shows, but they're making gazillions of dollars, yeah,
in ticket sales and T shirt sales and everything like that.
Oh and one more thing before I let you, you
answer the question, because you know more about it than
I do. So they walk out, they start playing, and
(04:48):
it's got a drum beat to it that I don't
quite recognize off the top of my head, because all
the songs kind of have a similar drum beat and
a similar thing. And everybody's twirling. All the girls are
twirling and thing, and then everybody's danced everything like that.
Not a single person in that stadium that I saw
sat for one second three and a half hours. I've
never been to a concert like that. I've been to
(05:10):
plenty of concerts with people stand for the big hits,
then sit back down for a slow song or whatever.
Not a person I was expecting to get to sit
for a while. None of that happened. So they do
the drum beat, drumbeat, and they opened with the Buddy
holly song that they do.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Regularly, probably not fade away.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah yeah, And so then the drum, the drum stop,
and then the whole crowd in Unison says I'm gonna
tell you what I'm gonna do it, and then everybody
saying every word to every song for three and a
half hours, never said down. I've never seen anything like that.
Why is that? You tell me why that is?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I'm sure there are multiple books written to address that
very question, and they are book length, as books often are.
I would say, I mean number one. At the beginning,
they were just a whale of a band. I mean,
just a terrific band that was incredible. Well, you know,
they there's a couple of sayings among musicians ragged but
(06:06):
right or loose but tight. They had a combination of
being extremely good and extremely loose and improvisational and.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And really fun music to listen to if you're stoned.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Plus, they have a weird like hippie community thing going like,
we're all here, we're all friends, nobody's gonna get ugly,
it's gonna be great. Everybody's gonna enjoy themselves, nobody's gonna
judge anybody else. We're gonna listen to the jams and
have a great time, you know there, And there are
actually other bands that have it, you just don't hear
about it as much. Fish has an enormous following that's
(06:42):
very grateful, deadlike, and there are a couple others Dave
Matthew's band, surely.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
But not on that scale for that long without ever
putting any no well, no, no, that's what's just like you.
And how do you grow new fans in their twenties
with fifty five year old songs? I mean it's I
don't know, well, part.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Of it's that the songs hold up pretty well and
it's a jam. Part of it's just there's an attraction
to being part of that that draws young people. The
whole i'm a hippie thing is hot amongst your twenty somethings,
at least in some quarters. Oregon for instance.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Right, oh yeah. The people sitting next to me were
from Oregon and they were going to all three shows.
Everybody around me was going to all three shows. I
was the only one that was just going to the
one show. And it was a mom and dad roughly
my age, with their high school kids. They brought all
their kids and their kids knew all the words every song.
I don't know. It's unlike anything I've ever been around.
(07:45):
I've been to. I got plenty of acts that I
like that do that on a smaller scale, Like there's
several hundred people that are that into it, but not
hundreds of thousands for six decades. It's just yeah, I
don't And then I wonder how much of it was
it like grew on itself, like you know, becomes a thing,
(08:08):
and a thing is that it's nothing draws a crowd,
like a crowd, that whole.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Thing, right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
It's it's such an attractive like vibe, an attractive corner
of human kind that people who weren't there at the beginning,
or if you know, they didn't grow up with the
songs or whatever. Just the idea that that many people
could get together and have their energy be so positive
and a lack of conflict and a lack of people
being a holes like people tend to be, and listening
(08:37):
to the music and dancing and stuff. It's just it's
an attractive proposition. And you know why, you know why,
It's it's on a scale that nobody else has ever matched.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
It's it's it's hard, it's magic, it's culture, it's a vibe.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I thought, at some point, surely we're going to sit
down during one of these slow songs, aren't we. I mean,
it's a Friday night, We've all worked all week long,
we're all a little tired on a lot of you
are way older than I am. Surely no nobody was
sitting down at any point, even for a moment.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Well, I am a fan, I am not a dead head.
I have some good friends who are here. Is my
horrifying Well, I'm sorry, it's my impressive but horrifying, grateful,
dead claim to fame. I was at Jerry Garcia's last
show before he died in Chicago, Did you play a role?
(09:29):
Or many years ago? And I fell sound asleep halfway
through it? Fell asleep because I may have been over served.
Fell It was well, yeah, okay, you call it what
you want. It was a very hot summer day in Chicago.
Oh my god, if drinking beer and all getting rid
of it, and then sitting there baking in the sun
(09:50):
and Soldier Field just baking. I'm surprised that I has
this all been maybe I'm dead. Maybe I died that
day and this has all been a prolonged illucination.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It was like fifty five degrees in the middle of
the concert for this one, So yeah, I didn't have
that problem.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah you were better off, trust me.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
John Mayer plays guitar with a giant winter coat on
zipped up around his ears. The way he did, He's flicked,
flipping phenomenal. By the way, John Mayer is just freaking unreal. Yeah,
he's a monster, but he's not happy to have it
come to an end. I don't know. There's not much
said about why they decided to wrap it up. New
York Times went deep on that over the weekend. But
(10:28):
I did notice that Bob Weir, he would play for
a while and then he would take his hand off
and shake his hand a lot. And I hadn't seen
that in videos before, because I've watched a lot of
Dead and Company videos over the last several years. Because
I just like got into it when John Mayer joined,
which I know makes me something something uncool among real
Dead advances.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
But Jerry come lately.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah something. But anyway, he wasn't doing that before. I
wonder if he doesn't have something that physical. It's happened.
I mean, he just can't play every night like that.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Handful of my favorite musicians have had to give it
up because arthritis.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
About how are you standing up there for three and
a half hours and paying attention to what you're doing.
I'm dying out here standing for three and a half
I don't know. Maybe they think about how much money
they're making.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Maybe they enjoy playing music. Listen to you, y Cinek,
you couldn't be a deadhead. I'm surprised you weren't drummed
out of the stadium. I'm getting bad vibes from the
bald man over here.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Man, get out.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It was definitely the single best vibe at that scale
that I've ever been around in my life. And man,
that's a heck of a thing to pull off. I
doubt it'll ever be recreated, certainly, not for that length.
Not possible, Not in the modern world.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
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Speaker 3 (11:57):
The New York Times with a hilariou curiously long article
about pants and how wide pants are in now and
skinny pants are out, which was it was hilarious. I
read quite a bit of it just because I found
it hilarious. How seriously they took this topic and how
in depth they went in The New York Times about it.
(12:19):
But anyway, that we then played a little clip of
Lyndon Baines Johnson, president of the United States from sixty
three to sixty eight, talking to his tailor on the
phone about his pants. And Katie had never heard it
before because Katie's new to the show. Roughly, how long
you've been here a year?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah? Wow, time flies spikes.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So this is Lindon made Johnson who had his pants
special made by a Taylor back in Texas. And LBJ
was a corn Pone. That's actually what the Kennedy people
called him, Colonel corn Pone to his face. Wow, that
nice relationship. Anyway, he is from small town, Texas and
he's talking to his tailor about getting a new pair
(13:03):
of pants ordered, and it sounded something like.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
This, miss Taylor, Joe Hager. Joe is your father, the
one that makes clothes. Yet there we're all together. Uh,
you all made me some real light weight slacks.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
He just made up on his own sentiments or four
months ago. It's a kind of a light brown and
a light green, rather soft green and soft brown, and
the real light weight. I need about six pairs were
around in the evening when I come in from work,
and I need about a half inch too tight in
(13:44):
the waist. He recalled it back then that didn't want
it on before we get it right, fault. You know,
I don't know. You all just guessed out of my things.
So but once you have the measurements there for you,
I can send you a pair. I want him a
half inch larger in the waist than they were before,
except I want two or three inches of stuff left
back in there so I can take them up. I
(14:04):
bury ten or fifteen pounds a month. So leave me
at least two and a half three inches in the
back where I can let them out or take them up.
And make these a half inch bigger than the wasist.
Make the pockets at least an inch longer. Money, my money,
and my knife, everything fall out were now the pockets
(14:27):
when you sit down in the chair, the knife and
your money comes out, so I need at least another
inch in the pockets. Yeah. Now another thing with crutch
down where you hang is always a little too tight.
So when you make them up, give me an inch
that I can let out there, because they cut me.
It's just like riding a wire fence. These are almost
(14:50):
the best that I've had anywhere in the United States.
But when I gained a little weight, they cut me
under there. So leave me. You never do have much
margin that which see if you can't leave me about
it an age from the word of zippering and round
under my back them up hole so I can let
(15:12):
it out there if I need to. Now, be sure
he got the best zippers in them. These are good
that I have. And if you get those coming, I
was sure be grateful.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
There you go, at a historical moment, actual phone call
with President of the United States.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Cut me like I'm shitting on a wire fencer.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh the fact, don't leave me my margin.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You gotta have margin.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
The fact that he burps right before he uses the
word is my favorite part.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
That is what that's one of my favorite pieces of amazing.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's amazing. Oh it shows you who he was. He
was from poor Texas hill country to his bones. That's
what he was, uh huh right.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And it's probably worth the tip of the cap that
he was calling the Hagar family who became, you know,
one of the great clothiers of that time of history.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
About five inches right back to my that's the best part.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Not crotch, you know where money. Yeah, we know what
a crotch is.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
The reason people use the word crotch is so they
don't have to say where you're many.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Has some plain.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Talk there, oh tell?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And if you're actually into you know, history and this
sort of stuff. The Carol book about the relationship between
LBJ and the Kennedy family is amazing because you just
heard who the guy was. That's way different than the Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Clan, the Kennedys of Harvard.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah, highennas Port Kennedy's and their you know, golf
clubs and tennis clubs and that sort of stuff. No
wonder they didn't get along with and vice versa with LBJ.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Oh my god, where their patrician accents and their crisp
suits and the rest of it with practically no margin
whether they're.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Or banged at the time.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
From there, Yeah, it's seem in the minimum. It's like
riding a rail fence. I mean, it's just, oh my god.
I like something my grandfather would say. Well, that's how
I gained some weight back. And it cuts me, cuts me.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
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Speaker 3 (17:35):
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Speaker 2 (17:47):
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Speaker 3 (17:57):
And then I have an admission of false slash plained
about myself. Oh well, we thought we'd bring back one
of the best things. What do you call me?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
You know?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Before I get to that, it occurs to me that
intro could have been to talk about Elton John because,
as I disclosed during the show, when I'd heard he'd
played his last show allegedly. You know, it's rock stars
sometimes they unretire. But he's seventy six. I went back
and listened. I saw on YouTube some shows from the
first tour I saw him on, which I think was
(18:26):
nineteen eighty, might have been eighty one. And how blown
away I was at the time by Elton but his band,
how great they were. I was playing music at the time,
and I was coming off, you know, like seeing the Stones,
who didn't even attempt the harmonies that make their records
so incredible.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Keith couldn't be.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Bothered to sing his parts some of the times, those giant,
soaring harmonies like you know, the Tumblindice are all down
the line or stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
They didn't have any backup singers. They didn't They would
just have mixed in. Oh don the lune.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
As a guy who's long been into harmonies, it just
I hated that. So then I go to see Elton
John and his band full throated like a damn choir,
and it's just the guys on stage singing all those
great songs with all those great choruses and just playing
out of the rock and roll and I thought, Wow,
what a great band. So anyway, tip of the cap, Elton,
(19:23):
you chubby little legend, you what a great band.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
He really looks like an old lesbian at this point.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
He does.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
He does.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
It's not a complaint, it's just what he looks like.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I happen to know and love a couple of old lesbians,
so I have said many times they're my favorite people.
Old lesbians favorite people are old lesbians. Yes, huh, that's
been my experience. Really interesting anyway, But we're not talking
about Elton John or old lesbians. Well we clearly we
are talking about Elton John. But the introduction wasn't talking
about Elton John. It was a reference to during the show,
(19:57):
Ryan Long's brilliant video when wokes and racists agree on
everything and we're gonna try to squeeze it in.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
The show, but we didn't get to it.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
And you called this one of the best pieces of
satire you've ever heard, which I would agree. I think
it's underappreciated.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I think it is.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I think it's like at the very very top level
of American socio political comment ever. Now, I've seen a
bunch of his videos, some of them are just good,
but this one is. This is his stairway to Heaven,
Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Long.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
But me and.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Bradforth's Matt I didn't think we'd get along, but turns
out we kind of agree on everything.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Your racial identity is the most important thing.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Everything should be looked at through the lens of race.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Thinks you owe me a coke da.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
We both have a lot of opinions about people of color,
even though we barely know.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I say, colored people, But as long as we're classifying them,
we both think minorities are a united group who think
the same, enact the same.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And both the same. You don't want to lose your blackguard.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I just think we.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Should roll back discrimination lass so we can hire days
on race again.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Thinks now you owe me a coke? Hey, tell them
what you told me yesterday.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
White actors should only do voices for a white cartoon characters.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And saying that for years, stick to your own.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Us white people, we have so much privilege.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I agree, it's a privilege to be white.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Ask him about interracial dating.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
All I say is that black men who date white
women have internalized racism, and white men that date ethnic
women are fetishizing.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Theom guys against interracial dating. Yeah, like, am I being pranked?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Did umor put you up to this?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Ough?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You know what taco place is?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
White owned?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
White people should be making white foods. That crap macaroni GeSe,
no seasoning, not even solved.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
It's like he's a mind reader.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I mean, I've been pushing for segregation forever, and my
man does what.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
I created an improv comedy show exclusively for ethnic fefle.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Guy segregates comedy on my birthday.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
White people need to stop wearing dreadlocks, and they stop
appropriating black.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
People's music, shaved heads and country music the way gotten tended.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
You know, all white people are racist.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I'm listening.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Even if you have a black wife or a black
friend group, you're still really racist.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
You he just kicked it out of the organization for
having a black girlfriend. But if you can promise me
he's still really racist, we'll consider letting him back in.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Black people should only shop about black businesses. I guess
the only thing we really disagree about is I think
white people are the root of all evil.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
But what did I tell you?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Though?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
If we can narrow that on to a certain group
of tinya, how did white people?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think we can come to.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
An understanding Technically, I don't consider Jewish people neither do I.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
When racist wokes and racists agree on everything, Ryan long.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Why is it that not more discussed that?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
When I was a little kid, they had dorms at
colleges that were blacks only and whites only. Then that
was decided to be a horror. Then they were mixed together,
and now we're going with dorms that are blacks only
or whites only again and seen as progress or a
good thing.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Well, I think part of the reason is, and we
talked about this a lot hour two of the Monday
Show if you want to grab the Armstrong and get
you on demand podcast, that a lot of it is
neo Marxism.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's cultural Marxism, and it's racial.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
It's actually it's a it's a method of grabbing political
power that masquerades as racial concern. And so the flaming,
idiotic inconsistency of it. The left is not going to
address those because that's not what they're going for anyway,
and because the mainstream media sees themselves aligned with the
(23:13):
left and are frequently duped into thinking, yes, this is
about race, primarily they don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
So I saw Elton John. I'm trying to think what
year it was, two thousand seven or something like that.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah, I saw him at one point during the kind
of the comeback years.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I saw him in San Jose the hockey rink, and
it was it was real good. It wasn't mind blowing.
So I'm he might have been too old for that.
The thing that stands out in my mind the most
is the crowd was just loving all the greatest hits
so much, and then he jumped in with stuff from
his new album and just killed the mood for everyone.
(23:58):
M here's something from my new album, and everybody groans.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
H lat damn creative artists to try to create new art, please,
where do they get off?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I know that's a weird thing, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
We'll decide when you're through creating.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I've thought this myself when I'm seeing musicians. This song,
the song that I want him to play was new
to me at one point. That was a new song
at one point, So maybe this will be great, although
so seldom it is. And the songs that he played
that were new, nobody dug them at all, and I
don't even remember them, and they disappeared into the ether. Yeah,
(24:33):
ty d answer, we're here. We spent our money to
hear Tiny Dnswer, hold me closer, tiny Dancer.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You know, I've had bands, individual artists.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I don't like the term artists. I find it pretentious.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Anyway, songwriters that I love, and I will come to
the conclusion.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Okay, you're out of ideas. You had some really great ideas.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Now you're either repeating yourself or this new thing just
doesn't work, which is fine.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That's it. That's what Billy Joel did. He stopped putting
out music, what thirty some years ago, putting new music. Yeah,
he hasn't written a new song like three some years.
And he said, I just think I was done. I
just I don't think I had anything left to say.
And people liked my old songs.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Though, yeah, fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
And then I read an interview with the John Mellencamp,
who's every time i'd say its name, I'm tempted to
call him John mellonhead because I've arrested adolescents. He did
an interview the other day where he said he stopped
playing for years and years and years because he had
(25:41):
no interest in being a human jukebox. He would, you know,
play really good stuff he'd come up with, nobody had
any interest in it, and he could bang out the
old hits and play him crappy and it didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He didn't even have to. Yeah, and he thought, no,
what just.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Go listen to the CD, go listen to the radio.
I kind of prance about up here. If you have
no interest in music, you just want to hear the hits.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Wow, that is the opposite of the Rolling Stones philosophy.
We're gonna barely go through the motions. We're gonna give
you twenty five percent of what this song is. If
you listen to the record, you're gonna pay a ton
for it. And we're perfectly fine with that. Well, that
was the old Stones.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Now the Stones sound fantastic in spite of them being octagenarians.
Their shows sound great now. But anyway, that's interesting. Some
people are perfectly okay with that. And uh, and I
don't blame them. You know, if the fans are enjoying themselves,
you should try. You should try to sound your best.
But yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
But if the fans are fine with seeing, you know,
hearing their greatest hits live and in person, I don't know,
it seems well.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And at the same time, if John Mellencamp doesn't want
to do that, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You don't have to.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I don't find that pretentious or mean or wrong or whatever.
It's a voluntary occupation. Sure, go pain and hang out
with your fifth wife.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
And because music was structured so much differently, he's got
more money than God. Anyway. I think about that all
the time. Some of these super wealthy aging musicians or whatever,
how much money would they have made in the modern era?
Would they be working at the grocery store? I mean
they have several big hits. You can think of lots
of people that only had a couple of hits. They'd
be working at the grocery store or be insurance agents
(27:23):
or something right now, even with those giant hits, because
they'd have made no money.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Right yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I Actually, on the other end of it, I know
some people in bands that are if they had come
along in the seventies, they would be very, very wealthy,
And now they're continuing to tour and playing bars and
stuff because they need the money, or giving piano lessons
between tours Italy.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Isn't that something?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Man, if you could have if you could have two
three top forty hits in the eighties, you were set
for life. Now forget it. No, you've got some money,
you can tour around, work really hard, live off that
for a while, but oh times change.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
Hey, Jack, you mentioned that some people are throwing things
that artists. I mean, in other words, the crowd. They're
throwing things at musicians now right political speeches. That would
cause me to throw stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, I don't think that's what they're doing though. It's
just in the middle of songs. They just like it's
popular to throw cell phones of people. A couple of
people have been hitting the face cell phones. Yeah, they're
a little expensive art. I'm not throwing my fourteen hundred
dollars phone at you. But somebody got hit in the
face the other day. Several people have in recent weeks.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Yeah, that chick got hit in the face and it
ended up in four stitches on her eyebrow.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Oh wow, Yeah, I would have my security goons beat
that person down. Sorry, I realized that's a terrible thing
to say out loud. Oh, the Internet got a hold
of him. I think he lost his job and all
sorts of stuff. Oh, they just take his profile and
his personal info and put it out. No, he shouldn't
lose his job. He should just be punched in the
head three or four times.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
The Internet got a hold of me. He loses his job,
He's a pariah. Probably have to move, change his name,
get a fake mustache, whole thing.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
That's a great phrase. By the way, the internet got.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Ahold of him. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Do you talk about brutality. I'd rather be punched you
no kidding?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
The Armstrong and Getty Show, yeah, or Jack or show
podcasts and our Hot Lakes.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
It.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It's the Armstrong and Getty Show featuring our podcast. One
more thing.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
We do a new one every day. Find it wherever
you find your podcast. So have you been following the
story out of Colorado? Some woke jack teacher told a
twelve year old kid, you gotta leave because you have
a Don't Tread on Me flag Gadsden flag patch on
your backpack.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Wow, a patch on the backpack, which is not even
that prevalent. My son wears they don't Tread on Me
t shirt to school regularly.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Good.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
He's you know what, I have to establish a foundation
and buy like fifty thousand of them and distribute them
free to any kid who wants to wear one.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Yes, Ken, if you look at his backpack, the kid's
obviously running for some position.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I think it said vice president of his class.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
So he has a bunch of political patches on his
backpack to go with his little campaign poster, just to
set the scene.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Longer recesses vote for Jimmy you know whatever, hey for
offending machines.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
We also have a clip of the mom confronting the
teacher as well.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Isn't that clip six? Yes, it is.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Well that's what I'm leading up to. Yeah, okay, why
don't you? Why don't you? I'm so sorry. I was
misled by my superior. I think he's the pressures I'm under.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I explode.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I think you're treading on him, is what you're doing? Guilty,
Well well played, They're.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well played, all right, Michael.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, let's listen to Mom talking to the aforementioned woke teacher.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
He I mean he is able to go.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I was actually just telling him like I upset that
he's missing so much cool.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
I'm like, ah, so I asked it out back go
back to class, like I just wanted to.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Go back to class.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
The back can't go back if so patch on it
because we can't have that in and a round of
her kids. So that's what I was trying that. He
said you were close, so I was like, oh, yeah,
it has nothing to do with slavery. That's like the
Revolutionary War patch that when they were fighting the British.
So that was Mom.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
I assume yeah, had her phone out with the ignoramus teacher.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
From from there, the clip continues to that that jack
teacher just saying, well, I'll have to direct you to
the district. And then she said the name of whoever
it was, she asked a contact, and it.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Was just yeah, it'steresting.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Never this smug look on her face.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
If I'm the teacher, well, first why I wouldn't believe that.
But if I'm the teacher somebody gets out their phone
and I'm on this topic, I'm referring it to someone
above me, I would yell because this ain't gonna go
well no matter what happens.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well she did, and.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
After a couple of days the district said, yeah, a
kid can wear the patch, of course he can. And
then interestingly enough, the governor of Colorado tweeted obviously. The
Gadsdens is a proud symbol of the American Revolution and
an iconic warning to Britain or any government not to
violate the liberties of Americans. It appears on popular American
(32:09):
medallions and challenge coins through today, and Ben Franklin also
adopted it to symbolize the Union of the Thirteen Colonies.
It's a great teaching moment for a history lesson.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Are you telling me that child's nut pro slavery, because
that's what I assumed a teacher needs a history lesson
that that little kid, the fifth grader, was running on
a up with slavery platform to be class president.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Show me an American school that is not an indoctrination
factory for left wing ideas.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
There are some.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
I want free desserts at lunch and chattel slavery, homework
is optional, labor will be uncompensated.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Wow wow, But how many classrooms are flying your super
rainbow flag? I mean this rainbow that also includes the
transgender colors and the binary colors.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
And the rest of them, freaking all of them.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Imagine the trouble you're in if you say we don't
want political flags in our classroom, if you kick that
one out.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I try not to let it make me like frustrated,
angry because I have the outlet of the show and
podcast and everything. I so sympathize with parents who don't
have this sort of outlet and are just enraged at
what's happening, and they don't have the money to send
their kid to a private school, and they might not
(33:45):
have the time to homeschool them, so what are they
supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
God, this pisses me off.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I heard this from a child of grade school age
that when they say the pledge of a legiance every morning,
there are a few kids who say, I pledge allegiance
to the Pride flag everywhere. But not certain whether that's
a sarcastic why is this flag always in my face commentary?
(34:15):
Or I don't know what the you know, I don't
know what the gesture means. It's the double reverse. Yeah,
example might be yeah, because the flag's hanging up on
the wall next to the US flag, so.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
You know, then you know the lives of TikTok among others.
I've seen a handful of a teacher's bragging that they've
taken down the American flag. The only flag in this
classroom is the Pride flag.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Oh yeah, because that's the other flag that was going
around viraln TikTok for being a symbol of slavery was
the American flag.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
People were losing it about that sixteen nineteen project and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Right, Yeah, I think I know what to do about this,
But how do we feel about quote unquote re educ
caation camps. It's kind of got a negative connotation, doesn't it.
Perhaps patriotism academies? What do you think of that name?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
We'd like you, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I know you're teaching this class and throwing kids out
for having the Gadsden flag, but we need you to
attend a patriotism academy for a few weeks.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Wow. Wow, the protests at that. That's very Chinese of you.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Jeez, that was insensitive.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
You know, when I went to school, the only problem
was the school cafeteria in that questionable meat.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Right, yeah right, Simpler time, simpler time.
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
I saw an article in New York Times about the
Final Dead shows happening in San Francisco over the weekend.
They played Friday, Saturday, Sunday night final shows of their tour.
They said there's chances they'll get back together again for
a benefit or something, but they're never going to tour again,
they claim. I don't think they probably actually are. They've
made that claim many times over the years. They're very old. Yeah,
(00:56):
bubblers like Joe biden Old and I noticed him well
he was as an adult during the Summer of Love
in nineteen sixty seven. Yeah, that's one of the things
I want to bring up with this phenomenon. So, speaking
of it being a phenomenon, one of the reasons I
went was, it's a phenomenon. I haven't been to a
concert in I think fifteen years, so it had been
(01:16):
a long time. So i'd been to a concert, and
Dead and Company was coming to the area. It's sixty
miles from my house, and I kind of thought about
it a couple of times. Then I looked at prices.
They're too high. Anyway, I finally decided, you know what,
I'm going to do it. So I bought a ticket
two hours before, three hours before the show started, hopped
on my motorcycle, rode into San Francisco to the baseball line,
(01:40):
and and didn't even pay a ton for it. Luckily,
I think people started to panic, some of the people
that had put I'll say you won for eight thousand
dollars for starting to panic if they had some left,
so it didn't get a bad price. Anyway, I was
trying to figure out while I was sitting there in
the concert, I was trying to figure out, what is
the phenomenon of the whole grateful Dead thing. You mentioned.
They've been doing this for fifty five years, fifty seven years,
(02:04):
something like that, with only a couple of exceptions. Every
song they play is fifty plus years old. They haven't created,
they haven't created anything new and forever, and the crowd
and the place, I don't know if it was sold out,
but I didn't see any empty seats up in the stands.
The crowd varied. There were lots of twenty somethings, there
(02:27):
were lots of thirty somethings, forty something, fifty something, sixty something,
seventy somethings, every age group there. And I don't know
what they created or why. I just I was just
looking around, trying to take it all in, trying to
figure out what what happened here? Why has nobody else
ever been able to do this. I remember when we
were in Charlotte, North Carolina, the Grateful Dead came through
(02:52):
in the mid nineties, and I didn't know anything about
the Grateful Dead. I've never really been into the Grateful Dead.
They came through town and I didn't go to the concert.
I was at a party that night at a house,
and a number of people had been to the Dead
concert and they This is pre internet, So in the
Internet era, obviously you can go online and check what
the set list is for every concert and they would
(03:13):
be posted as soon as the concert is over. But
this is before the Internet. So these guys would run home,
and some of them took scraps of paper and pens
with them. Some of them are just using their knowledge
and they're sitting there at the kitchen table at this
party saying, okay, so what did they play first set? Well,
they opened with this, open with that. They writing it
all down, They kept the log of all the concerts
they'd seen in the set list in a way that
(03:33):
just I don't think happens that often with bands. Part
of it is they don't play that many songs because
each song is thirteen to fifteen minutes long. So you
play like four songs, take a break, play four more songs,
and your three hours are up. That's one weird aspect
of the whole thing. The other thing is they don't
come out and say a word, and never have, according
(03:55):
to the New York Times, they don't say, hey, Atlanta,
good to be here. There is one from the new
while you know, thanks for coming, or nothing. They don't
see now.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
They wander out and start playing.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
The wonder I'll start playing and when they're done, they
walk off and that's it. And and from the beginning.
Another interesting thing is they've always encouraged people recording it
and posting live recordings, and they got gazillions alive albums
and just well, do you tell me what is different
about that band that allowed them to tour for fifty
(04:27):
some years. I was just looking up still one of
the top grossing concert tours out there. They didn't play
that many shows, but they're making gazillions of dollars, yeah,
in ticket sales and T shirt sales and everything like that.
Oh and one more thing before I let you, you
answer the question, because you know more about it than
I do. So they walk out, they start playing, and
(04:48):
it's got a drum beat to it that I don't
quite recognize off the top of my head, because all
the songs kind of have a similar drum beat and
a similar thing. And everybody's twirling. All the girls are
twirling and thing, and then everybody's danced everything like that.
Not a single person in that stadium that I saw
sat for one second three and a half hours. I've
never been to a concert like that. I've been to
(05:10):
plenty of concerts with people stand for the big hits,
then sit back down for a slow song or whatever.
Not a person I was expecting to get to sit
for a while. None of that happened. So they do
the drum beat, drumbeat, and they opened with the Buddy
holly song that they do.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Regularly, probably not fade away.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah yeah, And so then the drum, the drum stop,
and then the whole crowd in Unison says I'm gonna
tell you what I'm gonna do it, and then everybody
saying every word to every song for three and a
half hours, never said down. I've never seen anything like that.
Why is that? You tell me why that is?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I'm sure there are multiple books written to address that
very question, and they are book length, as books often are.
I would say, I mean number one. At the beginning,
they were just a whale of a band. I mean,
just a terrific band that was incredible. Well, you know,
they there's a couple of sayings among musicians ragged but
(06:06):
right or loose but tight. They had a combination of
being extremely good and extremely loose and improvisational and.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And really fun music to listen to if you're stoned.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Plus, they have a weird like hippie community thing going like,
we're all here, we're all friends, nobody's gonna get ugly,
it's gonna be great. Everybody's gonna enjoy themselves, nobody's gonna
judge anybody else. We're gonna listen to the jams and
have a great time, you know there, And there are
actually other bands that have it, you just don't hear
about it as much. Fish has an enormous following that's
(06:42):
very grateful, deadlike, and there are a couple others Dave
Matthew's band, surely.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
But not on that scale for that long without ever
putting any no well, no, no, that's what's just like you.
And how do you grow new fans in their twenties
with fifty five year old songs? I mean it's I
don't know, well, part.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Of it's that the songs hold up pretty well and
it's a jam. Part of it's just there's an attraction
to being part of that that draws young people. The
whole i'm a hippie thing is hot amongst your twenty somethings,
at least in some quarters. Oregon for instance.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Right, oh yeah. The people sitting next to me were
from Oregon and they were going to all three shows.
Everybody around me was going to all three shows. I
was the only one that was just going to the
one show. And it was a mom and dad roughly
my age, with their high school kids. They brought all
their kids and their kids knew all the words every song.
I don't know. It's unlike anything I've ever been around.
(07:45):
I've been to. I got plenty of acts that I
like that do that on a smaller scale, Like there's
several hundred people that are that into it, but not
hundreds of thousands for six decades. It's just yeah, I
don't And then I wonder how much of it was
it like grew on itself, like you know, becomes a thing,
(08:08):
and a thing is that it's nothing draws a crowd,
like a crowd, that whole.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Thing, right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
It's it's such an attractive like vibe, an attractive corner
of human kind that people who weren't there at the beginning,
or if you know, they didn't grow up with the
songs or whatever. Just the idea that that many people
could get together and have their energy be so positive
and a lack of conflict and a lack of people
being a holes like people tend to be, and listening
(08:37):
to the music and dancing and stuff. It's just it's
an attractive proposition. And you know why, you know why,
It's it's on a scale that nobody else has ever matched.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
It's it's it's hard, it's magic, it's culture, it's a vibe.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I thought, at some point, surely we're going to sit
down during one of these slow songs, aren't we. I mean,
it's a Friday night, We've all worked all week long,
we're all a little tired on a lot of you
are way older than I am. Surely no nobody was
sitting down at any point, even for a moment.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Well, I am a fan, I am not a dead head.
I have some good friends who are here. Is my
horrifying Well, I'm sorry, it's my impressive but horrifying, grateful,
dead claim to fame. I was at Jerry Garcia's last
show before he died in Chicago, Did you play a role?
(09:29):
Or many years ago? And I fell sound asleep halfway
through it? Fell asleep because I may have been over served.
Fell It was well, yeah, okay, you call it what
you want. It was a very hot summer day in Chicago.
Oh my god, if drinking beer and all getting rid
of it, and then sitting there baking in the sun
(09:50):
and Soldier Field just baking. I'm surprised that I has
this all been maybe I'm dead. Maybe I died that
day and this has all been a prolonged illucination.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It was like fifty five degrees in the middle of
the concert for this one, So yeah, I didn't have
that problem.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah you were better off, trust me.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
John Mayer plays guitar with a giant winter coat on
zipped up around his ears. The way he did, He's flicked,
flipping phenomenal. By the way, John Mayer is just freaking unreal. Yeah,
he's a monster, but he's not happy to have it
come to an end. I don't know. There's not much
said about why they decided to wrap it up. New
York Times went deep on that over the weekend. But
(10:28):
I did notice that Bob Weir, he would play for
a while and then he would take his hand off
and shake his hand a lot. And I hadn't seen
that in videos before, because I've watched a lot of
Dead and Company videos over the last several years. Because
I just like got into it when John Mayer joined,
which I know makes me something something uncool among real
Dead advances.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
But Jerry come lately.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah something. But anyway, he wasn't doing that before. I
wonder if he doesn't have something that physical. It's happened.
I mean, he just can't play every night like that.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Handful of my favorite musicians have had to give it
up because arthritis.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
About how are you standing up there for three and
a half hours and paying attention to what you're doing.
I'm dying out here standing for three and a half
I don't know. Maybe they think about how much money
they're making.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Maybe they enjoy playing music. Listen to you, y Cinek,
you couldn't be a deadhead. I'm surprised you weren't drummed
out of the stadium. I'm getting bad vibes from the
bald man over here.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Man, get out.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It was definitely the single best vibe at that scale
that I've ever been around in my life. And man,
that's a heck of a thing to pull off. I
doubt it'll ever be recreated, certainly, not for that length.
Not possible, Not in the modern world.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
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Speaker 3 (11:57):
The New York Times with a hilariou curiously long article
about pants and how wide pants are in now and
skinny pants are out, which was it was hilarious. I
read quite a bit of it just because I found
it hilarious. How seriously they took this topic and how
in depth they went in The New York Times about it.
(12:19):
But anyway, that we then played a little clip of
Lyndon Baines Johnson, president of the United States from sixty
three to sixty eight, talking to his tailor on the
phone about his pants. And Katie had never heard it
before because Katie's new to the show. Roughly, how long
you've been here a year?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah? Wow, time flies spikes.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So this is Lindon made Johnson who had his pants
special made by a Taylor back in Texas. And LBJ
was a corn Pone. That's actually what the Kennedy people
called him, Colonel corn Pone to his face. Wow, that
nice relationship. Anyway, he is from small town, Texas and
he's talking to his tailor about getting a new pair
(13:03):
of pants ordered, and it sounded something like.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
This, miss Taylor, Joe Hager. Joe is your father, the
one that makes clothes. Yet there we're all together. Uh,
you all made me some real light weight slacks.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
He just made up on his own sentiments or four
months ago. It's a kind of a light brown and
a light green, rather soft green and soft brown, and
the real light weight. I need about six pairs were
around in the evening when I come in from work,
and I need about a half inch too tight in
(13:44):
the waist. He recalled it back then that didn't want
it on before we get it right, fault. You know,
I don't know. You all just guessed out of my things.
So but once you have the measurements there for you,
I can send you a pair. I want him a
half inch larger in the waist than they were before,
except I want two or three inches of stuff left
back in there so I can take them up. I
(14:04):
bury ten or fifteen pounds a month. So leave me
at least two and a half three inches in the
back where I can let them out or take them up.
And make these a half inch bigger than the wasist.
Make the pockets at least an inch longer. Money, my money,
and my knife, everything fall out were now the pockets
(14:27):
when you sit down in the chair, the knife and
your money comes out, so I need at least another
inch in the pockets. Yeah. Now another thing with crutch
down where you hang is always a little too tight.
So when you make them up, give me an inch
that I can let out there, because they cut me.
It's just like riding a wire fence. These are almost
(14:50):
the best that I've had anywhere in the United States.
But when I gained a little weight, they cut me
under there. So leave me. You never do have much
margin that which see if you can't leave me about
it an age from the word of zippering and round
under my back them up hole so I can let
(15:12):
it out there if I need to. Now, be sure
he got the best zippers in them. These are good
that I have. And if you get those coming, I
was sure be grateful.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
There you go, at a historical moment, actual phone call
with President of the United States.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Cut me like I'm shitting on a wire fencer.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh the fact, don't leave me my margin.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You gotta have margin.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
The fact that he burps right before he uses the
word is my favorite part.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
That is what that's one of my favorite pieces of amazing.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's amazing. Oh it shows you who he was. He
was from poor Texas hill country to his bones. That's
what he was, uh huh right.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And it's probably worth the tip of the cap that
he was calling the Hagar family who became, you know,
one of the great clothiers of that time of history.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
About five inches right back to my that's the best part.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Not crotch, you know where money. Yeah, we know what
a crotch is.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
The reason people use the word crotch is so they
don't have to say where you're many.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Has some plain.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Talk there, oh tell?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And if you're actually into you know, history and this
sort of stuff. The Carol book about the relationship between
LBJ and the Kennedy family is amazing because you just
heard who the guy was. That's way different than the Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Clan, the Kennedys of Harvard.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah, highennas Port Kennedy's and their you know, golf
clubs and tennis clubs and that sort of stuff. No
wonder they didn't get along with and vice versa with LBJ.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Oh my god, where their patrician accents and their crisp
suits and the rest of it with practically no margin
whether they're.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Or banged at the time.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
From there, Yeah, it's seem in the minimum. It's like
riding a rail fence. I mean, it's just, oh my god.
I like something my grandfather would say. Well, that's how
I gained some weight back. And it cuts me, cuts me.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Getty Show, Fancy Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our podcast
One More Thing. We do a new one every day.
Find it wherever you find your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Paying tribute to one of the greats. It's one more Thing.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
And then I have an admission of false slash plained
about myself. Oh well, we thought we'd bring back one
of the best things. What do you call me?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
You know?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Before I get to that, it occurs to me that
intro could have been to talk about Elton John because,
as I disclosed during the show, when I'd heard he'd
played his last show allegedly. You know, it's rock stars
sometimes they unretire. But he's seventy six. I went back
and listened. I saw on YouTube some shows from the
first tour I saw him on, which I think was
(18:26):
nineteen eighty, might have been eighty one. And how blown
away I was at the time by Elton but his band,
how great they were. I was playing music at the time,
and I was coming off, you know, like seeing the Stones,
who didn't even attempt the harmonies that make their records
so incredible.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Keith couldn't be.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Bothered to sing his parts some of the times, those giant,
soaring harmonies like you know, the Tumblindice are all down
the line or stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
They didn't have any backup singers. They didn't They would
just have mixed in. Oh don the lune.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
As a guy who's long been into harmonies, it just
I hated that. So then I go to see Elton
John and his band full throated like a damn choir,
and it's just the guys on stage singing all those
great songs with all those great choruses and just playing
out of the rock and roll and I thought, Wow,
what a great band. So anyway, tip of the cap, Elton,
(19:23):
you chubby little legend, you what a great band.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
He really looks like an old lesbian at this point.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
He does.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
He does.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
It's not a complaint, it's just what he looks like.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I happen to know and love a couple of old lesbians,
so I have said many times they're my favorite people.
Old lesbians favorite people are old lesbians. Yes, huh, that's
been my experience. Really interesting anyway, But we're not talking
about Elton John or old lesbians. Well we clearly we
are talking about Elton John. But the introduction wasn't talking
about Elton John. It was a reference to during the show,
(19:57):
Ryan Long's brilliant video when wokes and racists agree on
everything and we're gonna try to squeeze it in.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
The show, but we didn't get to it.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
And you called this one of the best pieces of
satire you've ever heard, which I would agree. I think
it's underappreciated.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I think it is.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I think it's like at the very very top level
of American socio political comment ever. Now, I've seen a
bunch of his videos, some of them are just good,
but this one is. This is his stairway to Heaven,
Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Long.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
But me and.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Bradforth's Matt I didn't think we'd get along, but turns
out we kind of agree on everything.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Your racial identity is the most important thing.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Everything should be looked at through the lens of race.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Thinks you owe me a coke da.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
We both have a lot of opinions about people of color,
even though we barely know.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I say, colored people, But as long as we're classifying them,
we both think minorities are a united group who think
the same, enact the same.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And both the same. You don't want to lose your blackguard.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I just think we.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Should roll back discrimination lass so we can hire days
on race again.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Thinks now you owe me a coke? Hey, tell them
what you told me yesterday.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
White actors should only do voices for a white cartoon characters.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And saying that for years, stick to your own.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Us white people, we have so much privilege.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I agree, it's a privilege to be white.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Ask him about interracial dating.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
All I say is that black men who date white
women have internalized racism, and white men that date ethnic
women are fetishizing.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Theom guys against interracial dating. Yeah, like, am I being pranked?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Did umor put you up to this?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Ough?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You know what taco place is?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
White owned?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
White people should be making white foods. That crap macaroni GeSe,
no seasoning, not even solved.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
It's like he's a mind reader.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I mean, I've been pushing for segregation forever, and my
man does what.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
I created an improv comedy show exclusively for ethnic fefle.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Guy segregates comedy on my birthday.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
White people need to stop wearing dreadlocks, and they stop
appropriating black.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
People's music, shaved heads and country music the way gotten tended.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
You know, all white people are racist.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I'm listening.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Even if you have a black wife or a black
friend group, you're still really racist.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
You he just kicked it out of the organization for
having a black girlfriend. But if you can promise me
he's still really racist, we'll consider letting him back in.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Black people should only shop about black businesses. I guess
the only thing we really disagree about is I think
white people are the root of all evil.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
But what did I tell you?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Though?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
If we can narrow that on to a certain group
of tinya, how did white people?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think we can come to.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
An understanding Technically, I don't consider Jewish people neither do I.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
When racist wokes and racists agree on everything, Ryan long.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Why is it that not more discussed that?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
When I was a little kid, they had dorms at
colleges that were blacks only and whites only. Then that
was decided to be a horror. Then they were mixed together,
and now we're going with dorms that are blacks only
or whites only again and seen as progress or a
good thing.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Well, I think part of the reason is, and we
talked about this a lot hour two of the Monday
Show if you want to grab the Armstrong and get
you on demand podcast, that a lot of it is
neo Marxism.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's cultural Marxism, and it's racial.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
It's actually it's a it's a method of grabbing political
power that masquerades as racial concern. And so the flaming,
idiotic inconsistency of it. The left is not going to
address those because that's not what they're going for anyway,
and because the mainstream media sees themselves aligned with the
(23:13):
left and are frequently duped into thinking, yes, this is
about race, primarily they don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
So I saw Elton John. I'm trying to think what
year it was, two thousand seven or something like that.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah, I saw him at one point during the kind
of the comeback years.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I saw him in San Jose the hockey rink, and
it was it was real good. It wasn't mind blowing.
So I'm he might have been too old for that.
The thing that stands out in my mind the most
is the crowd was just loving all the greatest hits
so much, and then he jumped in with stuff from
his new album and just killed the mood for everyone.
(23:58):
M here's something from my new album, and everybody groans.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
H lat damn creative artists to try to create new art, please,
where do they get off?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I know that's a weird thing, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
We'll decide when you're through creating.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I've thought this myself when I'm seeing musicians. This song,
the song that I want him to play was new
to me at one point. That was a new song
at one point, So maybe this will be great, although
so seldom it is. And the songs that he played
that were new, nobody dug them at all, and I
don't even remember them, and they disappeared into the ether. Yeah,
(24:33):
ty d answer, we're here. We spent our money to
hear Tiny Dnswer, hold me closer, tiny Dancer.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You know, I've had bands, individual artists.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I don't like the term artists. I find it pretentious.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Anyway, songwriters that I love, and I will come to
the conclusion.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Okay, you're out of ideas. You had some really great ideas.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Now you're either repeating yourself or this new thing just
doesn't work, which is fine.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That's it. That's what Billy Joel did. He stopped putting
out music, what thirty some years ago, putting new music. Yeah,
he hasn't written a new song like three some years.
And he said, I just think I was done. I
just I don't think I had anything left to say.
And people liked my old songs.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Though, yeah, fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
And then I read an interview with the John Mellencamp,
who's every time i'd say its name, I'm tempted to
call him John mellonhead because I've arrested adolescents. He did
an interview the other day where he said he stopped
playing for years and years and years because he had
(25:41):
no interest in being a human jukebox. He would, you know,
play really good stuff he'd come up with, nobody had
any interest in it, and he could bang out the
old hits and play him crappy and it didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He didn't even have to. Yeah, and he thought, no,
what just.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Go listen to the CD, go listen to the radio.
I kind of prance about up here. If you have
no interest in music, you just want to hear the hits.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Wow, that is the opposite of the Rolling Stones philosophy.
We're gonna barely go through the motions. We're gonna give
you twenty five percent of what this song is. If
you listen to the record, you're gonna pay a ton
for it. And we're perfectly fine with that. Well, that
was the old Stones.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Now the Stones sound fantastic in spite of them being octagenarians.
Their shows sound great now. But anyway, that's interesting. Some
people are perfectly okay with that. And uh, and I
don't blame them. You know, if the fans are enjoying themselves,
you should try. You should try to sound your best.
But yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
But if the fans are fine with seeing, you know,
hearing their greatest hits live and in person, I don't know,
it seems well.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And at the same time, if John Mellencamp doesn't want
to do that, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You don't have to.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I don't find that pretentious or mean or wrong or whatever.
It's a voluntary occupation. Sure, go pain and hang out
with your fifth wife.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
And because music was structured so much differently, he's got
more money than God. Anyway. I think about that all
the time. Some of these super wealthy aging musicians or whatever,
how much money would they have made in the modern era?
Would they be working at the grocery store? I mean
they have several big hits. You can think of lots
of people that only had a couple of hits. They'd
be working at the grocery store or be insurance agents
(27:23):
or something right now, even with those giant hits, because
they'd have made no money.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Right yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I Actually, on the other end of it, I know
some people in bands that are if they had come
along in the seventies, they would be very, very wealthy,
And now they're continuing to tour and playing bars and
stuff because they need the money, or giving piano lessons
between tours Italy.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Isn't that something?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Man, if you could have if you could have two
three top forty hits in the eighties, you were set
for life. Now forget it. No, you've got some money,
you can tour around, work really hard, live off that
for a while, but oh times change.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
Hey, Jack, you mentioned that some people are throwing things
that artists. I mean, in other words, the crowd. They're
throwing things at musicians now right political speeches. That would
cause me to throw stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, I don't think that's what they're doing though. It's
just in the middle of songs. They just like it's
popular to throw cell phones of people. A couple of
people have been hitting the face cell phones. Yeah, they're
a little expensive art. I'm not throwing my fourteen hundred
dollars phone at you. But somebody got hit in the
face the other day. Several people have in recent weeks.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Yeah, that chick got hit in the face and it
ended up in four stitches on her eyebrow.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Oh wow, Yeah, I would have my security goons beat
that person down. Sorry, I realized that's a terrible thing
to say out loud. Oh, the Internet got a hold
of him. I think he lost his job and all
sorts of stuff. Oh, they just take his profile and
his personal info and put it out. No, he shouldn't
lose his job. He should just be punched in the
head three or four times.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
The Internet got a hold of me. He loses his job,
He's a pariah. Probably have to move, change his name,
get a fake mustache, whole thing.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
That's a great phrase. By the way, the internet got.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Ahold of him. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Do you talk about brutality. I'd rather be punched you
no kidding?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
The Armstrong and Getty Show, yeah, or Jack or show
podcasts and our Hot Lakes.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
It.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It's the Armstrong and Getty Show featuring our podcast. One
more thing.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
We do a new one every day. Find it wherever
you find your podcast. So have you been following the
story out of Colorado? Some woke jack teacher told a
twelve year old kid, you gotta leave because you have
a Don't Tread on Me flag Gadsden flag patch on
your backpack.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Wow, a patch on the backpack, which is not even
that prevalent. My son wears they don't Tread on Me
t shirt to school regularly.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Good.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
He's you know what, I have to establish a foundation
and buy like fifty thousand of them and distribute them
free to any kid who wants to wear one.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Yes, Ken, if you look at his backpack, the kid's
obviously running for some position.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I think it said vice president of his class.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
So he has a bunch of political patches on his
backpack to go with his little campaign poster, just to
set the scene.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Longer recesses vote for Jimmy you know whatever, hey for
offending machines.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
We also have a clip of the mom confronting the
teacher as well.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Isn't that clip six? Yes, it is.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Well that's what I'm leading up to. Yeah, okay, why
don't you? Why don't you? I'm so sorry. I was
misled by my superior. I think he's the pressures I'm under.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I explode.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I think you're treading on him, is what you're doing? Guilty,
Well well played, They're.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well played, all right, Michael.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, let's listen to Mom talking to the aforementioned woke teacher.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
He I mean he is able to go.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I was actually just telling him like I upset that
he's missing so much cool.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
I'm like, ah, so I asked it out back go
back to class, like I just wanted to.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Go back to class.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
The back can't go back if so patch on it
because we can't have that in and a round of
her kids. So that's what I was trying that. He
said you were close, so I was like, oh, yeah,
it has nothing to do with slavery. That's like the
Revolutionary War patch that when they were fighting the British.
So that was Mom.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
I assume yeah, had her phone out with the ignoramus teacher.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
From from there, the clip continues to that that jack
teacher just saying, well, I'll have to direct you to
the district. And then she said the name of whoever
it was, she asked a contact, and it.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Was just yeah, it'steresting.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Never this smug look on her face.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
If I'm the teacher, well, first why I wouldn't believe that.
But if I'm the teacher somebody gets out their phone
and I'm on this topic, I'm referring it to someone
above me, I would yell because this ain't gonna go
well no matter what happens.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well she did, and.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
After a couple of days the district said, yeah, a
kid can wear the patch, of course he can. And
then interestingly enough, the governor of Colorado tweeted obviously. The
Gadsdens is a proud symbol of the American Revolution and
an iconic warning to Britain or any government not to
violate the liberties of Americans. It appears on popular American
(32:09):
medallions and challenge coins through today, and Ben Franklin also
adopted it to symbolize the Union of the Thirteen Colonies.
It's a great teaching moment for a history lesson.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Are you telling me that child's nut pro slavery, because
that's what I assumed a teacher needs a history lesson
that that little kid, the fifth grader, was running on
a up with slavery platform to be class president.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Show me an American school that is not an indoctrination
factory for left wing ideas.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
There are some.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
I want free desserts at lunch and chattel slavery, homework
is optional, labor will be uncompensated.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Wow wow, But how many classrooms are flying your super
rainbow flag? I mean this rainbow that also includes the
transgender colors and the binary colors.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
And the rest of them, freaking all of them.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Imagine the trouble you're in if you say we don't
want political flags in our classroom, if you kick that
one out.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I try not to let it make me like frustrated,
angry because I have the outlet of the show and
podcast and everything. I so sympathize with parents who don't
have this sort of outlet and are just enraged at
what's happening, and they don't have the money to send
their kid to a private school, and they might not
(33:45):
have the time to homeschool them, so what are they
supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
God, this pisses me off.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I heard this from a child of grade school age
that when they say the pledge of a legiance every morning,
there are a few kids who say, I pledge allegiance
to the Pride flag everywhere. But not certain whether that's
a sarcastic why is this flag always in my face commentary?
(34:15):
Or I don't know what the you know, I don't
know what the gesture means. It's the double reverse. Yeah,
example might be yeah, because the flag's hanging up on
the wall next to the US flag, so.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
You know, then you know the lives of TikTok among others.
I've seen a handful of a teacher's bragging that they've
taken down the American flag. The only flag in this
classroom is the Pride flag.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Oh yeah, because that's the other flag that was going
around viraln TikTok for being a symbol of slavery was
the American flag.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
People were losing it about that sixteen nineteen project and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Right, Yeah, I think I know what to do about this,
But how do we feel about quote unquote re educ
caation camps. It's kind of got a negative connotation, doesn't it.
Perhaps patriotism academies? What do you think of that name?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
We'd like you, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I know you're teaching this class and throwing kids out
for having the Gadsden flag, but we need you to
attend a patriotism academy for a few weeks.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Wow. Wow, the protests at that. That's very Chinese of you.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Jeez, that was insensitive.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
You know, when I went to school, the only problem
was the school cafeteria in that questionable meat.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Right, yeah right, Simpler time, simpler time.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
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