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January 22, 2025 13 mins

On the Wednesday, January 22, 2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Show features...  

  • Things that make people happy...
  • Joe wants to understand folks who see the world in black & white.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Only dead enders and lunatics are still defending Gavin Newsom
and Karen Bass.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's one more thing.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm one more thing.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I got a question before we get to that. Yeah,
what percentage of the people on the Price is Right?
Or let's make a deal are mentally ill? M qualified
as mentally ill? Because this woman's with a mentally ill
I'm watching this woman. She just got picked out of
the crowd by Drew Carey to be on The Price

(00:30):
is Right. She is so freaking excited. I mean she's
just crying with I just feel like you gotta be
in Milton. I think just a simpleton and.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
She just sound like you hate joy. She's like.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
She's like in her mid fifties. I mean, you've been
around a little bit, you know, you've seen some ups
and downs, You've raised some kids.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
She's probably been watching the show for years and it'd
be great to be on there.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Now she's just living.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Her dream and now she's got to ejaculate that joy.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
That is clearly the case, Katy.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Now she's got a chance to win this Hyundai size
of a couch car. Okay, good luck with that, hope
you win.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's a gas zipper. You know what's It's all coming
clear to me now, Katie. He's admitted proudly he thrives
on shodenfreud joy from other people's pain. Clearly he gets
pain from other people's joke. Whatever the opposite of Shotenfreud is. Yes,
exactly goes both ways. Freuden shod.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know what it is. You know what I think
shod and you know what it actually is. Probably I
wish stuff like that made me happy. A lot of
the things that make other people happy, I wish it
made me happy, but it doesn't. It just doesn't. And
I'm kind of envious, so people that can get that
excited about things that just don't do it for me.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, we were talking earlier, Katie, off the air. I'm
not sure if you around and heard it. And it
has to do with some emails we got on certain
topics and some it would be a distraction, honestly to
go into a topic was but there are I'm trying
to figure out if people are just being stubborn and

(02:07):
being dicks, or they're rigid or whatever, or if there
are people who actually can't emotionally deal with if say
I don't know an issue or a politician if you
agree with them eighty five percent and there's just fifteen
percent that yeah, I can't quite go that far, or

(02:30):
I got to point out this problem or whatever. They
are enraged by that, or they can't even process it.
They like can't even live with the idea of you know,
it's mostly good, there's a little bad. And I just
I find myself wondering if there are people who because
they it's been said many times, the most terrifying place

(02:50):
you could ever go is into somebody else's mind for
five minutes. I just wonder if there are people that
it doesn't look like it does to me when they
have to deal with ambivalence of any sort, because, judging
by the emails, unless they're just angry trolls, they literally

(03:10):
cannot admit nothing is perfectly pure.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Your own husband, wife, or kids aren't. Yeah, I'm not
who doesn't have something they wouldn't. I don't know the
right way to say, but you don't particularly like about
your husband, your wife, or your kids. You don't like
this personality trait they have. I mean, it'd be impossible
that you like every personality trait of your people you're
close to. That's impossible.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, if anybody says that, then they're lying.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
You just realize it's part of the package, and on
the whole you like them, and you know, you deal
with it, and then you know they deal with yours.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
And I don't know if it's like a symptom of
dumbness in some cases that they just can't noodle through.
There are flaws to this, but it's okay. They just
get angry at the idea that there's any you know,
any fudging at all of this has to be one

(04:09):
hundred percent good. This is one hundred percent bad, and
anything with any more subtlety than that freaks them out.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, it's a very black and white attitude.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, that is a mental thing. That is a state.
Like my son who has a variety of things. He
takes a lot of pills for. He has a very
black and white with a lot of stuff, and there's
just no budget him off of it.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, And I'm not coming out of I'm not coming
at this And I wish i'd like gotten my thoughts
in order, because this would make more sense if I had.
But I'm not trying to come at this like in
a snarky way or to mock people. I'm trying to
understand them, and I've got to admit, it's like they're
telling me, no, there are three moons in the sky,

(04:54):
and that's so foreign to the way I think. I'm thinking.
All Right, I got to figure out why they think
there's three moons in the sky.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, and there's It's definitely more so more common on
the left side of politics too. I mean, just in
the last week, the amount of people where I have
seen the anti Trump post on Facebook and one person
mentions like an executive order that isn't all that terrible,
and they get pissed. It's not a conversation anymore. It's

(05:22):
an attack.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah. Manichaeanism, the reduction of the world into only good
and evil and everything must be one or the other.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Huh huh.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
It seems like that's something to want to a tendency
you'd want to avoid.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, well, and you have to avoid it in a
political system like ours. Our entire political system is based
on differing ideas, factions, whatever. They come together in Congress.
Mostly they come together and say here's who I am,
and here's what I believe. Oh, here's who we are,
here's what we believe. But we got around the country.
Let's figure out how we can compromise. That is our

(06:02):
system and our system can't stand you know, that sort
of dualism.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I was talking so some people who do that around
politics and issues and stuff like that, did they do
that in their personal lives that I was just talking
about a little bit ago? Can they accept that? You know?
I like my uh, I like ninety nine percent of
my wife, but she puts our dog in coats and
I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
So we're thrilled, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
So I moved all of her shit onto the lawn
and we're divorced. Now. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
I had a friend like this, or really emphasis on
had and it was her way or the highway every time, always, always,
and for some reason I put up with it for
more than twenty years and finally audios biac.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, So, but is it? Is it a personality trait?
Is it like a kink because of the way you
were raised, you were abused? Whatever is it? Inborn?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, I know how you feel about the whole nature
and nurture thing, having raised three kids with two kids, man,
I'm so far down the road of nature for almost
everything I used to think before I had kids, it
was you know, the way you were raised or your
parents or whatever.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
But man, every kid's a blank slate. It was just
an expression of how their parents raised them.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
And when you have kids that have these very strong
tendencies that you know they didn't get from your household,
it's like, what the hell?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, her parents were great. Both of her siblings aren't
like this.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
She's just nuts.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Was who did what was the final straw?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
If you don't mind me asking.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You question, Michael good interview question.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Good gossipy question. Yeah, I love it?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Uh she?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Oh boy? Uh?

Speaker 4 (07:40):
I when I had I had three strokes back in
twenty twenty, and after that happened, she became really judgmental
of me, and uh, it just ended it. It ended
up blowing up pretty much. I told her that fuck off.
Did she did she feel like you had done something
to earn the strokes?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Yeah she did and tried depending on me, and then
when I wouldn't listen to her, she tried to go
to my parents to make them get on her.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
It was really bizarre.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
That was a ballsy move for a woman while you
were trying your best to deal with it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, Well even if even if she were right, it's
just I don't know what the upside would be of
a point.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
No, I wasn't taking great care of myself and she
tried to blow it up into something it wasn't. And
I am very glad that I am no longer dealing
with that garbage.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Good question, Mike, Michael's smiling, good sound the smile on
your face. Michael, that would be a great call in topic.
We don't do that anymore on the radio show. But
what broke up your friendship? Oh, that'd be a good'd
be a good topic.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh, I've got a great story. I can't tell it,
but I don't think I have. Damn shame.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
She'll get him.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I've only like really actively ended one friendship.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I don't you know what I got. I got a story.
I don't know if i'd be willing to tell it
on the air.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah, I'm sure you're okay doing it.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, But anyway to get back to the theme, and
then we can either do what we were going to
do or not here out of time, well, we can
do it tomorrow is speaking of kids, I'm going to
bring it all together. That's what I do I raised
three children who, in terms of well they are, they
unquestionably have traits that remind me of Judy and myself.

(09:27):
Of course, it's as if they were selected randomly from
all the children in the United States in terms of
their strengths and not so strength these strengths and and
and their personalities and stuff like that. And and my daughter,
who is autistic fairly mildly, but unquestionably, her crap detector

(09:52):
does not work. Her vulnerability to scams has been a
big problem that we've been working on for a long time,
and she's getting way better at it, thankfully. But I'm
the opposite, you know, the old saying, don't bullshit a bullshitter.
The minute I hear even like three percent bullshit from somebody,

(10:14):
I'm like, yep, I'm watching and listening carefully, go on,
what were you saying? I mean, it's just but I
didn't earn that. I just I was born with it,
and I to a large extent, although being in show business,
as Don Geronimo, the Great Radio Guy would say, the
lowest rung of show business, but being in show business
for a career tends to make you a little more

(10:36):
skeptical and cynical, but anyway, I just wonder whether some
people are born without the ability to understand ambivalence, meaning
this is true, and this is also true, and I
kind of wish it wasn't, but I can accept it.
I just wonder. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I got one kid who's got very black and white,
strong political views on a controversial topic. I'm not going
to mention. I mean, just like, very strong and outspoken
about it, and it's caused him problems. He's lost friendships
at a very young age over this. I'm like, dude,
why do you think this? I don't think it, your
mom doesn't think it. We've never said anything, and I

(11:15):
have no idea where he came to this, but he
just does.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Type stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Maybe No, I really don't know, And trust me, I've
spent a fair amount of time thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Is it the designated hitter? Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, that very strong. He thinks it's an abomination.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, keep sending your angry, enraged emails that seem to
be ignoring major points. But if it's a good vent
for you, a good outlet, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I have a very smart friend, quite possibly the smartest
person I've ever known, who would rather die than express
anything Trump ever did as being even slightly positive. And
I don't get it at all. I just don't get it.
I know you can say Trump shouldn't be present. I't
think you'd hear the reasons. But this was a good idea.

(12:06):
Why does that bother you.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
When you say they're one of the smartest people you know?
Are they like book smart?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah? Very very okay?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, categories are smart.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
True takes all kinds. I guess I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
I ended a friendship. Guy wouldn't quit bringing up stupid
things I did in the past. And I was like
thirty five, and this was stuff in high school. And
I finally said, you know what, I don't I don't
want to hear this anymore and just left the Chili's restaurant.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
That was it, really, Yeah, left my steaks right there.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
So you said something, though, Yeah I did?

Speaker 5 (12:39):
I said, yeah, I said, you know what, I'm sorry.
I'm thirty five years old, and you know I don't
think about this stuff anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
So wow, good for you for one thing?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Did you leave him with your bill?

Speaker 5 (12:48):
I put some money down and just walked out of there.
I said, here, here's twenty bucks.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I've got two examples i'd like to talk about, but
in both cases I ghosted them like a coward. Silence
is definitely, but also I just I'm not sure it
was worth they weren't it was worth getting into You've
you've fixed them, You've entered into the arena of you're
not worth my time anymore. So whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, yeah, I love that Travis Kelcey thing. Do the
people in your life give you energy or do they
sap you of it?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
I wonder where he is on Taylor at this point.
She's still giving him.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Energy, probably sucking the life out of him.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well, I guess that's it.
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