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October 9, 2024 35 mins

Hour 2 of A&G features...

  • CBS Ta-Nechisi interview followed by apologies
  • Porn stars weigh in on the election
  • The Tiktok lawsuit
  • Elon Musk talks UFOs

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Among the most powerful hurricanes ever recorded bearing down on Florida,
while recovery from the last horrible hurricane still going on
in a number of places, including Florida. A lot of
these people in Florida bugged out a week ago, came back,
unloaded a little bit, loading them back up and leave

(00:45):
it again. It's quite an in addition to the usual
threat of howling winds and the damage they do, you have, Well,
we'll go to the storm surge briefly, which is going
to drown large segments of the Tampa area, probably at
least temporarily, and then all the debris from Hurricane Helene
which has been piled up. If indeed those wins are

(01:08):
one hundred and thirty five miles per hour or anything
like that, there are going to be projectiles screaming through
the air like artillery fire all over coastal Florida. We've
got a little bit of Elon on Tucker that got
released yesterday. We'll play for you later. I watched about
half the thing. It's like an hour and a half long,

(01:29):
freaking fascinating. Elon is an interesting guy and his does
not you know how politicians run everything through a filter
of will this help me or hurt me? Or how
the calculator he does no calculation some things, he says.
Apparently it would seem that he does no calculation on
whether this is good for me bad for me. Controversial

(01:50):
sort of thing, you should say. He just talks right
righty to a fault.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, anyway, so you may have heard something about this
contram CBS News interviewed a fellow by the name of
Tanahsee Coats the other day, quoting the great Coleman.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Hughes, who happened to be a black man. A brilliant.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Mind, he says, Tanahasey Coats is one of those journal
one of those journalists treated by the left of center
establishment more like a prophet than a writer.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
There are a few.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Accolades he hasn't been granted. He goes through the list,
then he mentions a couple of the books Between the
World and Me won the twenty fifteen National Book Award.
The case for Reparations in the Atlantic became so influential
that it almost single handedly made reparations for slavery an
issue in the twenty twenty election. Since then, Coachses focus

(02:42):
mainly on fiction and comic books, most notably Back Black Panther,
which he wrote, and he's out with a new book
entitled The.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
What the heck? Where is it?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I'm sorry, it's the message there is. It's one of
those titles that's not easy to remember it well with
a vision the mission, Oh, the message right, and Hughes
writes things go awry from the start and says stuff like,
here's the crucial test. If you read nothing about a
subject other than this author's work, how informed would you be?

(03:14):
To what degree would you understand the big picture? On
that metric, Coachs fails spectacularly because Coats is not a
journalist so much as a composer, one who uses words
not to convey the truth, much less to point of
constructive path forward, but to create a mood. It's the
same way that a film scorer uses notes. He is,
in other words, a fairly radical editorialist.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
He's a big white supremacy is the root of everything
that's wrong in the United States.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Guy.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, absolutely a systemic racist profit racism profit. He's also
a racist, but he's been the absolute toast of left
for a very long time. So that's what you need
to know going in. So, his new book, The Whatever
is out and he to do an interview on CBS Mornings,

(04:03):
where he and several of the staff expected him, of course,
to be revered as the great Black Hope and the
great wise man who guilt ridden whites must bow down
to and listen to and obey in the usual manner.
But Tony Dicoppel, who works for CBS News and works
on CBS CBS Mornings, his ex wife and children live

(04:26):
in Israel, and I don't know much more about him
than that. But as this book is an utterly one
sided anti Semitic denial of Israel's right to exist and
defend itself, Decopel was not having it. And we'll play
some clips of how the interview went, but the the

(04:48):
bottom line is there's now this enormous controversy at CBS.
The woke, the young, the left in the CBS News
division are really angry at Ducoppel. They're calling out his
journalists to ethics that have been behind the scenes meetings
where we're getting some We actually got some audio from
the behind the scenes meeting just moments ago, and we're

(05:09):
working on editing it. But so there's a huge conference
and just it's hilarious. The argument from the people offended
by Ducoppol's grilling of Tanaheisy Coats is he showed bias.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
We can't have bias at CBS News.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
That would be terrible, and like anybody to the right
of Joe Mansions, like, are you serious, CBS? Do you
are kidding? Do you watch Face the Nation? Do you
watch sixty minutes? Did you watch the CBS women moderate
quote unquote moderate the debate.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
That was holy?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Like what a week and a half ago or whatever?
Are you serious with this?

Speaker 4 (05:49):
As anyway, So that is the situation in brief. A
little more on that, but let's listen to some of it.
Michael's start with the clip ninety and go from that.
This one's a fairly substantial hunk of audio from CBS.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Warnings.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
Hit it, Tana Haasha, I want to dive into the
Israel Palace on section of the books, the largest section
of the book. And I have to say, when I
read the book, I imagine if I took your name out
of it, took away the awards and the acclaim, took
the cover off the book, the publishing house goes away.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
The content of that.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Section would not be out of place in the backpack
of an extremist. And so then I found myself wondering,
why does Tanahashi Coats, who I've known for a long time,
read his work for a long time, very talented, smart guy,
leave out so much? Why leave out that Israel is
surrounded by countries that want to eliminate it?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Why leave out that.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
Israel deals with terror groups that want to eliminate it.
Why not detail anything of the first and the second Intifat,
of the cafe bombings, the bus bombings, the little kids
blown to bits? And is it because you just don't
believe that Israel in any condition has a right to exist.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
I would say, the perspective that you just outlined, there
is no shortage of that perspective in American media.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's the first thing I would say.

Speaker 7 (07:07):
Where I am most concerned always with those who don't
have a voice, with those who don't have the ability
to talk. I have asked repeatedly in my interviews whether
there is a single network mainstream organization in America with
a Palestinian American bureau chief or correspondent who actually has
a voice to articulate their part of the world. I've

(07:29):
been a reporter for twenty years. The reporters of those
who believe more sympathetically about Israel and it's right to
exist don't have a problem getting their voice out. But
what I saw in Palestine, what I saw on the
West Bank, what I saw in Haifa in Israel, what
I saw in the South Heblin Hills, those were the
stories that I have not heard, and those were the

(07:50):
stories that I was most occupied with. I wrote a
two hundred and sixty page book. It is not a
treatise on the entirety of the conflict between the Palestini
any Israelies.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
That's a pretty aggressive question from the CBS anchor. A
couple of thoughts, not inappropriate, but it was definitely going
at him. Number one, mister Coates is a brilliant man.
I think he's wrong about a lot.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I think his neo Marxist victim oppresser, you know, colonial
settler worldview is obnoxious and is intended to get rid
of Western civilization. Usher and Marxism, having said that he's
an extremely bright guy and more than capable of defending himself,
and that exchange sounded to me.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Like what journalism ought to be. Yeah, that was great,
I would agree.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Dakoppel asked some really tough questions. The author responded intelligently. Again,
I disagree with his conclusions, but that was a perfectly
reasonable response, and everybody heard some really good.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Ideas batted back and forth. But because.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
And that's the thing, I don't mind mister Coates expressing
his opinion.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
First Amendment fan over here. I don't want him worshiped
as a prophet who can never be questioned. He was
questioned fairly aggressively. He responded intelligently and aggressively, and we
all learned something. And the idea that that exchange and
there's a little more to it, and I'm enjoying it, Jack,
if you are, we can play some more.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
That was interesting.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
The idea that that exchange would so royal the CBS newsroom,
that there's a civil war going on? Now, how dare
he be so biased? Holy cats, you people have lost
your damn minds.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Next clip, Michael, But if you were to read this book,
you would be left wondering why does any of Israel exists?
What a horrific place committing horrific.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Acts on a daily basis.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
So I think the question is central and key if
Israel has a right to exist, And if your answer
is no, then I guess the question becomes why do
the Palestinians have a right to its white to twenty
different Muslim countries.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
I answer is that no country in this world establishes
its ability to exist through rights. Countries establish their ability
to exist through force, as America did. And so I
think this question of rights to its Israel does exist.
It's a fact. The question of its right is not
a question that I would be faced with with any
other country.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
It's an interesting idea, actually taken into a podcast with
similar conversation yesterday, because that is the history of the world.
You can either hang on to what you got or
you can't. Yeah, talking about the world order currently and
everything like that. But it's interesting and almost he's practically

(10:49):
making the argument for a while. Yeah, Israel, they believe
they're on the right side, and they got the power
to do it, so they're going to.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Do it right.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
And he's just arguing there being bad guys while they
do it, which again, that's a perfectly fine response.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I disagree with him on his conclusion.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
But every again, you heard one opinion, you heard the
other opinion expressed intelligently.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
It is shocking to hear that sort of thing on
the CBS Early Show. I know, wow that if you
go back and watch YouTube videos from back in the day,
you know, your old timey Crossfire or you watch them
old Dick Caviot or things like that, that's what conversations
used to be like all the time on talk shows,
like really high level, really get into it both sides conversations,

(11:34):
and that never happens anymore. Shocking, and when it does,
it's so shocking. There's a civil war at CBS.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
Next clip, Michael, But you write a book that delegitimizes
the pillars of Israel. It seems like an effort topple
the whole building of it. So I come back to
the question, and it's what I struggle with throughout this book.
What is it that so particularly offends you about the
existence of a Jewish state that is a Jewish safe
place and not any of the other states out there.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
There's nothing that offends me about a Jewish state. I
am offended by the idea of states built on ethnocracy.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
No matter where they are.

Speaker 7 (12:07):
Muslim concluded, I would not want to state where any
group of people laid down their citizenship rights based on ethnicity.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
I would have loved to hear more about including Muslim countries,
because they exist all over the place and have run
all the Christians and Jews and atheists out, and nobody
seems to have any criticism for them, including Coats. I
want to squeeze in one more because this is an
important point ninety four Michael, why.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
Is there no agency in this book for the Palestinians.
They exist in your narrative merely as victims of the Israelis,
as though they were not offered peace at any juncture,
as though they don't have a stake in this as well?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
What is their role in the lack of a Pelpas
have a.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Very very moral compass about this, and again perhaps it's
because of my ancestry. Either apartheid is right or it's wrong.
It's really really simple.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I saw was right.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
What's wrong? I am fascist against the death penalty? What
the person did to get the death penalty? It really
doesn't matter to me. I don't care if they were
selling a nickel bag of marijuana or if they were
a serial killer.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I am against the death penalty.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
I am against a state that discriminates against people on
the basis of ethnicity.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I'm against that.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
There is nothing the Palestinians could do.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Then we make that okay for me.

Speaker 7 (13:21):
My book is not based on the hyper moraleity the
Palestinian people.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
On the intellectual right, you will hear people say the
modern definition of anti Semitism is you hold Jews to
a different standard than you hold to everybody else. There
are twenty different Muslim countries, maybe fifty, I don't know.
I haven't counted them lately, who are precisely what Coats
is describing. But he does not have a syllable of

(13:48):
criticism for them, just the Jews.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I wish there are conversations like that on TV all
the time. No, you're wrong. That was an outrage and
it should be ended immediately. That's fantastic. We got more
on the ways to hear.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
I honestly didn't know that Bob Woodward was still.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Alive until you just asked me that question. That's what
little I know about Bob. Would word is that he
is I'm gonna use I'm gonna use a word here.
He is a hack. The guy's a hack, and Bob
Woodard is definitely not a hack. But come on, JD.

(14:24):
That's JD.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Van's talking about the new Bob Woodword book, and a
bunch of negative things about Trump have leaked out. The
book is probably full of plenty of negative things about Biden,
but those won't be the blurbs anyway.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
We'll talk about more about that later. Yeah, yeah, okay,
I know what he's doing. I get it. I just
it's unpalatable.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Speaking of unpalatable, just when you thought everyone had already
jumped in with their opinion to the current election, here
come the porn stars seventeen pornographic film actors.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's appreciate that phrase. I'm playing the role of a
gentleman with an erection.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Tell me more about how you developed this character. Well,
in the room and she was hot, and I got
an erection. I try to develop my character.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
What's your motivation in this scene?

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Well, you know what.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I appreciate your clarity. Sound like a star in sound directions,
As Joy says, where are the porn role players. They're
all stars, yea, allegedly, where are the character actors?

Speaker 4 (15:34):
So seventeen pornographic film actors announced to the other day
that they had launched a one hundred thousand dollars ad
campaign on porn sites that the guy from North Carolina
will probably comment on, right, the colbernatorial Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
We'll get into the comment section and argue about slavery.
Oh boy, where were we?

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Ah the ad campaign on porn sites warning that Project
twenty twenty five, the Heritage Foundation blueprint, blah blah blah
that's been a centerpiece of some democratic campaigns. Wants to
ban pornography and imprison people who produce it. All right,
I'm sorry I should read you this. The architects of
the Hands Off My Porn campaign or nothing if not

(16:15):
aware of the polling, No pun intended. VI Kamala Harris
losing the Trump among men, but younger men might be winnable,
and porn websites are among the most heavily trafficked on
the Internet.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
They are porn stars for Kamala out perfect is that?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, Hey, stop fornicating in unrealistic fashion on video for
long enough to pick up a book or a newspaper
or something.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Project twenty twenty five is a think tank set of
ideas or better yet, you know, go back to fornicating
in unrealistic fashion for videotape and leave.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
The rest of us to the election.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Okay, porn star, I want to make my I'm gonna
chew up a lot of scenery. I mean, there's gonna
be historyonics of crazy stuff. To paraphrase the slogan of
years past, shut up and screw oh.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Wow, geez strong and he loses, Man, what if you
lose them? It does seem that way. You can't just
be like you like, yeah, I'm like, how long do

(17:32):
you think my prison said this is gonna be? Well?
I see my children.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I don't know, because it's not like you can say, well, yeah,
I maxed out to him.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
But you know, I get.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
That was a very odd podcast from Elon Musk with
Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson's latest is like an hour and
a half long or something like that, and they cover
a gazillion different topics. But that's the whay It started
with Elon must say, Oh, if Trump loses, I'm aft.
I'm absolutely aft. I've I've been bashing Harrison entire time.

(18:10):
I'm aft, She's gonna go after me, no plausible deniability,
and he may actually be.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean he.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
I'm sure, well, relatively speaking, it'll make his life more difficult. Uh,
They they will, They will come after him hard, which
they might have done anyway, who knows. But that's just
funny that he's so one, that he's so all in
on Trump, both rhetorically and financially. And two, just to

(18:42):
say out loud, oh if I lose, if Trump loses,
I'm aft, I'm absolutely aft.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
And to some extent he is.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
I suppose, although I'm picturing, uh, during the the Harris
Walls administration, I gotta, I gotta take a knee for
a second. I mean, because it could happen anyway during
the Harris Walls administration. I could see Elon being an
incredibly articulate and powerful critic, and yeah, it would make

(19:12):
his life more difficult. But I think he could be
a real voice, because I mean, we have a voice.
But I was just thinking I would love to be
able to We were talking about this earlier. If you're
just tuning in the the astoundingly idiotic controversy at CBS
News because one of their journalists actually asked tough questions
of a liberal Saint Tanahize Coats, and it was good journalism.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Coats had great answers. It was fine.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
But now the newsroom is roiled with anger that somebody
dared challenge the great saint of anti racism. Anyway, I
would love to tell CBS, Hey, CBS, how to hear
among normal people?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
That was great.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
That was finally journalism. That's one of your finest moments
right there. Don't shy away from it, double down with it.
But it occur to me as I'm thinking about this,
they don't care what I think. I mean, we have
a pretty good voice, but I mean up in your
upper upper upper echelons of American power, you practically have
to be Elon Musk to be heard.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
So he could be a hell of a dissenter.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, speaking of Elon Musk, in a lot of the
ways I think he believes he'd be ft if Trump loses,
is going after his media platform and speaking immedia platforms,
because this is kind of in the same vein.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Dig this TikTok, facing allegations that it's as addictive and
dangerous as cigarettes. Thirteen states in the District of Columbia
are taking TikTok to court, alleging the dopamine inducing algorithm
hooks young users into endless scrolling, causing anxiety, depression, and
body dysmorphia. The lawsuit also alleges the app at times
promotes harmful and deadly behavior, from subway surfing to stealing cars,

(20:50):
alleging further that the app's beauty filters create unreal standards
and that around the clock notifications lead to sleep loss.
TikTok blasted the claims as inaccurate and misleading, adding that
the lawsuits are disappointing after they tried to work with
the States for over two years.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I hate TikTok and its very existence, But every single
example they gave there was crap of reasons to go
after TikTok. Dopamine hits that get you addicted. Okay, that
applies to every freaking thing that exists.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
For profit right now, everything for fun or for fun. Disco.
You know how I love disco.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's because it gives me the dopamine hit when I
get on the floor and day good point, I mean
just practically everything, uh and causes endless scrolling. Yeah, so
that's what The New York Times is trying to do.
It's what everybody's trying to do. Causes kids to have
unrealistic expectations of beauty. Okay, so I guess we're gonna

(21:50):
shut down every magazine, TV show, movie, music video, you
name it.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I've shows as well.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, TikTok is evil. It is an evil worm sent
by the Chinese communists. But that lawsuit was a joke. Oh,
Or causes kids to do dangerous things like subway cerving. Okay,
there's another dumb thing. So any dumb suggestion to a
kid that they take up is on you, all right,

(22:20):
I just but none of those angles are gonna work.
This is such an interesting situation we're in where a
great geopolitical rival is our bed mate economically speaking, and
controls one of the most important media mediums in America.
And it's worth reminding us all, including myself, the enormity

(22:44):
of TikTok's influence.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'm looking at this.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
The Wall Street Journal had an interesting piece about how
TikTokers are commanding huge audiences for news consumption move over
Lester Holt. It says they're taking on big media, changing
how America gets political News and there, and they profile
a few of the folks who are doing this, and

(23:10):
they're all very young. They have three videos going at
the top of the article, and the oldest dude looks
like he could be twenty five, you know. And these
people have millions and millions of followers, dwarfing the New
York Times, dwarfing CBS News, dwarfing practically everything.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
This stuck in my head for some reason.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Remember our old boss, Ken Cole, who hired us originally,
he was talking about how he'd like to start young
people's news network.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Actually I think he was talking about at the time. Jeez,
he'd been ahead of his time.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
But anyway, he said, I would have nobody allowed in
the newsroom over the age of twenty five, and it
just stuck in my head.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's funny. I'd forgotten that. That's brilliant, that idea, because
it's true.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
You don't and once you get past twenty five or
whatever age, you don't want it to be true.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
But it is true.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
People twenty five and under look at the world differently
than I do, and I can't relate to them.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I want to pretend I can. I want to try to,
but I can't. I just can't. They have a different
everything framework of the way the world looks well, right,
And also they have that.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Prejudice of the young that only people of their ilk
really know what's going on, and they don't want to
hear from the older folks, partly because it's a young
person's relationship with their parents.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's the leaving the nest thing.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
So yeah, and it's funny because I read the first
couple of paragraphs of this and thought, Wow, we really
need to get on TikTok, even though it's evil. But
then I realized, no, the old guy appears to be
twenty five, and that's fundamental to the appeal. But the
numbers are astounding. Among the two hundred politically focused TikTok accounts,

(24:54):
accounts with the most viral posts, those with twenty five
thousand or more views, one fifth were news influence. The
account's pushed nearly three thousand viral videos generating more than
seven hundred million views, and a packed news cycle that
included the first presidential debate, first assassination attempt, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I have no frame of reference on the news bias
of TikTok other than what was reported after October seventh,
on how it was overwhelmingly pro Palestinian as opposed to
pro Israel, and was that being generated by China or whoever.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well, yeah, but the thing is, it's not generated so
much as it's filtered. I think you have.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
It's like a record company where you have one thousand
bands you're listening to and are making their music. But
then the Chinese communists are the record company, and they
suppress this one and elevate that one and that one
and that one, right, and it's it's and the fact
that we allow this. I understand the difficulty first amendment
wise with dealing with this, but it's it's a unique

(25:58):
situation in human history. Three trojan horse. Nothing TikTok is
like a trojan. I don't know Mount Everest well, and
it's not a secret. So you you knock on the
door and say, hey, we rite this giant horse.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
We're gonna push in full of warriors, I mean absolutely
chock full of warriors. We're gonna push it in here
and then tonight they're gonna come out.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
And kill y'all. So enjoy. And we as adults say
what if no, no, But the kids say, we love
giant hoisies.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
We love giant iceies.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
So the adults say, well, I guess we'll let in
the giant horse because the kids are.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Really enjoying that, and our throats get slit. Well, well, well,
I've said this before, and I please don't hate me
for this. There are times my favorite sports teams are
just so bad. I think you know you're gonna lose,
and you deserve to lose. I'm not gonna get upset
about it. You're terrible at your jobs. No, Sometimes I

(26:53):
feel like my beloved.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Republic is that.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
It's easy to do that with your favorite basketball team,
not so easy to do it with the country your
kids are going to grow up in.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Oh No, I'm gonna fight till I'm dead. You know
that about me. I just occasionally I have that How
can we be so stupid? And how does nobody notice it? Frustration?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
The only thing you need to know about TikTok is
China doesn't it allow it in their country, Right, That's
the only thing you didn't know they don't allow They
have a thing called TikTok, but it's nothing like what
we what we have, so it might might as well
be a different.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Thing, right, It says if Chinese Disneyland was entirely a
technical academy, all right, that's the only it has the
same name.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, And so they don't allow it in China. Why, well,
because it'd be awful for our young people and destroy
our country. We're not gonna have TikTok in our country.
We put it in the United States. Yeah, you're right,
and then we all just allow it, and then Republicans
and Democrats can't come together to ban it because well,
it's kind.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Of working for us.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Well, then they're spreading money around like Santa Claus on steroids,
which imagine Santa with roid rage.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I can if you've seen the Kurt Russell Santa which
Santa movie?

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
God? My kids love that movie. Bad Santa was Billy
Bob Thornton, right, right?

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Whatever won? The one is with Kurt Russell. I'm sure
we'll be watching it here again in a couple of months.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Is that the horror movie? It's not a horror movie.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
It's got a good message in the end, but it's
relatively rough. He gets drunk, he fights a lot.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
So I just one more thought, a despairing thought, and
I'll tell you going into this that as a patriot,
I we you even if we, with all of our
efforts delay the Roman Empire like and by a year,
that'll be worth the efforts. Preserving liberty is worth everything

(28:42):
you can pour into it. I believe that to my soul.
On the other hand, there sometimes I think, as I
observe the United States and how it functions and now
it doesn't function, there are times I feel like it's
just it's an over ripe fruit, and historically speaking, the
path that are overright empire takes is more or less inevitable.

(29:05):
I think that in my more discouraged moments, I admit it.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
I think you're absolutely right about that. The Christmas Chronicles
is the movie with Kurt Russell as Santa. If you
haven't watched it, very.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I do not know it. I'm a big fan of
the Muppet Christmas Carol. Is it similar?

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Before we take a break, did you know they're imploding
the Tropicana in Vegas today, one of the most storied
hotel resorts where some of the biggest rat pack, cool stuff,
that mob stuff that ever happened in the history of
Vegas all happened in that hotel, and they're imploding it today.
Because you know, time time marches on. I wonder if
they'll find the bones of mob and formers like that

(29:43):
were buried under the floors and stuff like that, they'll
find the vice walls that Joe Peshi put people's.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Heads in forget about it. I'm surprised it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Worth it to renovate it and you know, make it nostalgic.
Can't be super trophy And yeah, I'm surprised, but I'm
sure very much smarter people than me looked at.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Look.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Something tells me that dirt under it is a lot
more valuable with some brand new super casino.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
But must be I want to play a little more
from Elon and Tucker on a couple of different topics
a little bit later, as he got into UFOs and
go a censorship and a whole bunch of things.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
And also we got that audio of the behind the
scenes garment tearing. Come to Jesus meeting at CBS News
over the perfectly reasonable interview that we've been talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I want to hear that it's all on the way.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Herek Times had a hall of an article yesterday about
Israel and whether or not they're gonna strike a rand's
nuclear capabilities and can they and whether we're in favored
or not really good stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
We'll get to that now or three.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
If you don't get our three, feel free to grab
the podcast later. I'm strong in getting on demand better
yet subscribe, you know, Jack, I'm looking at the clock
and I'm looking at the audio, and I just there's
no way we can do this, and I don't want
to give it a short attitude. You can, You're right,
I'm a quitter. I don't want to give it short shrift.
I want to give it good long shift. We have

(31:13):
obtained through methods that I cannot describe unless you've been
in combat or worked for the CIA. The behind the
scenes meeting at CBS News where they are freaking out
over the fact that they actually engaged in journalism for once,
and all the woke staffers are upset about it. And

(31:33):
because a conservative actually said something somewhat conservative, they're saying, oh,
we need to be unbiased. We were biased there. It's
unintentionally hilarious. We will also get to that next hour.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
We promise.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
It's the whole Tanaheazy Coats Tony Ducoppel controversy. Tempest in
a tea spot. But it's so revealing of the way
big media works. It's delicious.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
So I mentioned I watched the Elon Musk Tucker Carlson
thing today and Elon fascinating guy talking about a whole
bunch of different things, just all over the place. I
think he does himself harm all the time, but.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
He didn't care. It's the advantage of having that much money,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Anyway, they got on the top of the UFOs, and
Elon might be as well positioned as anyone in the
world to speak to this, as he makes the point
with all the satellites he has and the space exploration
and the ability to monitor things going on in space
and everything like that, he has not seen any evidence
of aliens. Why Tucker asked him about this, I don't know,

(32:34):
but it seems to be a big thing on the
right correct that the government's hiding this from us or something.
I am surprised how often I come across that. Yeah, yeah,
I never spent a second thing about him me neither.
Elon Musk believes that the alleged UFOs seen as zipping
around the United States are not extraterrestrial life, but more
likely the US government's new weapons programs that are highly classified.

(32:56):
He has not seen any evidence of aliens using his
Space Exploration Technologies company. There's a lot we don't know.
Musk admitted about where where life came from? How you know,
why did life come here? Why is in other plants?
We don't know that sort of stuff. But he said
there are over six thousand satellites in orbit and they
have not once had to maneuver around an alien spacecraft.

(33:19):
For one thing, SpaceX has over sixty three hundred active
Starling satellites in low Earth orbit and they've seen no
evidence of anything like that. While well, unidentified flying objects
are one thing, but there are a bunch of classified
programs that are underway, and they are so classified that
even at the highest levels.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
People don't know about them. And he says, that's the explanation,
which is what I've always assumed.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
I was just going to say, I certainly hope it's
DARPA doing something cool and futuristic to protect the motherland.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Boy.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
One thing Elon told a story on there was, for instance,
trying to get his his internet service going for the
hurricane victims like North Carolina and East Tennis seeing how
the federal government was blocking him and he couldn't get
it done. He got on the phone with Pete Buddha Judge.
Actually he tweeted about it on his own Twitter, blaming

(34:10):
the federal government from stopping something from getting accomplished. Buddha
Jedge reached out to him because it was well maybe
just because he's a nice guy.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
I was going to say because they were embarrassed, But anyway,
they ended up putting it together and Buddha Jedge cleared
out the red tape bureaucracy and Elon was able to
immediately get a whole bunch of things done, get some
satellites in the air, and have a Wi Fi going.
But it's just interesting that the government is built in
such a way that if somebody efficient, like a private
company like Elon, can't get anything done.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yeah yeah, Oh, how lovely it would be to have
that sort of pull, And how frustrating that is. He
had to have a Cabinet member intercede to stop the
government from stopping him helping the people.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Right, yeah, right, It'd be nice if we all had
that sort of power, that we could tweet something out
and we'd get a response.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
There are days I'd like to just take the Constitution
to some desert island and start the country again, armstrong
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