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April 18, 2025 35 mins

Hour 3 of A&G features...

  • Medicaid maneuver & reforming the government
  • Being a child star
  • How to have the perfect day!
  • Bizarre CIA missions

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm
Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
The media has brought bought into this industry, canard this
mythology that we're Jesus anymore autism because we're noticing it more,
we're better recognizing it, or there's been changing diagnostic criteria.
There is study after study in the scientific literature going
back decades it says that's not true.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
In fact, California.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Legislator in twenty thirteen asked the Mind Institute of you
See Davis to look exactly at that topic. They said,
is it real or we justn't noticing it more? And
the Mind Institute came back and said, absolutely, this is
a real epidemic.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
This is something we've never seen before.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
It occurs to me something I was saying the other
day about this to researchers I know who work at
the Mind to Institute that he was quoting right there
where people somebody brought it up.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
We were at dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
The idea, well, they just they just it's always been around,
just noticing more and they got like angry at that suggestion.
You know, I just feel like intuitively, I mean, I've
known lots of families my whole life, as you have,
and they didn't all have one kid who has clearly.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Had a certain thing. Right. Yeah, Yeah, it's undeniable that
diagnosis and awareness have increased. But as I said the
other day, is that five percent of their eyes fifty
percent of it? How much? I agree completely? And if
there were a shadow of a doubt as to whether
it's on the increased autism and related problems, yeah, it's

(01:50):
it's a humanitarian crisis that ought to be an enormously
high priority in my opinion. Anyway, a couple of things
on the way this hour. We'll try to squeez him
in this hour. If not, we'll you know, do one
in hour four. Partly because it's Friday and night. Just
don't feel like substance all day long. Just let's have

(02:11):
a little fun. Number One, Science has come up with
the formula for having the perfect day.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Okay, perfect, I'm gonna write this down.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Oh yeah, yeah. You don't need to think about it,
you don't need to meditate, pray.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Science will tell you how to have the perfect day
before you go to work or before you go to
bed somewhere.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yes, well it's funny they don't touch on that. And
also a list of some of them fairly recently declassified
unbelievable operations the CIA has carried out through the years
just for fun. You've heard of Castro's exploding cigar plays.
That's just the beginning. All sorts of good stuff. But first,

(02:57):
before your dessert, perhaps a delicious marshmallow peep. So we're
discussing last hour. You you it's a delicious treat and
it's Easter Jack. Anyway, Oh, I.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Heard that tone of voice, like I'm not being reverent
toward the Lord and Savior if I don't like beeps.
That makes sense?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Is that what you took from my tone? I'm so sorry. Anyway,
I wanted to get through this just because I found
it so enlightening and interesting, and I think you will too.
Talking about Medicaid just just briefly, and I came across
this headline, the six hundred billion dollar Medicaid maneuver on
the chopping block. Republican budget cutters are are looking at

(03:40):
cutting this and this is interesting in itself, but it
also points out how so many of these gigantic government
expenditures are built to be exploited in ways we and
the public never hear about, or the super smart people
figure out how to exploit them in ways that were

(04:01):
never intended. Here you go. An obscure set of state
taxes on hospitals and other health providers is in the
crosshairs of congressional budget cutters because it can lead to
higher federal spending on Medicaid. It's they're known as provider taxes.
States impose them on hospitals, nursing homes, and other facilities

(04:21):
that provide healthcare. The taxes boost the state's budget for
funding Medicaid, and then they spend it on Medicaid, which
in turn attracts more matching federal dollars to fund the program,
money that is ultimately directed back to the hospitals and clinics.

(04:42):
So it's like this perpetual motion taxation and grant machine
so that they can artificially inflate spending so they can
spend more and the hospitals and clinics get it back anyway.
But it's the taxpayers who end up paying for this loaded,
you know, steroid fed spending.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
As I've said many times, I would like to run
an experiment where I lived my life over and starting it.
Like the age of eighteen out of high school. I
just dedicated my life to trying to figure out how
to gain the system to get tax payer mooney.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Because there's a lot of people that do that.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
There's so much money sloshing around, there's so many opportunities
to figure out a way to get chunks of that.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, and putting aside except for this brief mention, the
fact that our entire healthcare system is built on lies
and fraud, in that the compensation rates for doctors and
hospitals and all for Medicaid patients and Medicare patients and
are artificially crazy low because politically they don't want to
raise taxes enough to actually pay for this, So people

(05:44):
with private insurance or paying cash pay exorbitant rates for
healthcare to support the government scam. Anyway, that's enough of that.
The state governors and legislators despise this idea because hospitals
often ten to get back more in payments than they
shelled out for the original tax, which shows up their

(06:05):
ability to care for Medicaid patients who normally they'd say,
we're not seeing these people and getting paid eleven cents
on the dollar to treat their broken lag or whatever.
And then the governor say, well, wait, wait, wait, how
about this backchannel of funds will tax you and then
give you back a dollar thirty for every dollar in
tax you pay. So anyway, not to you know, borrior,

(06:29):
make your head spin. But all of this stuff is
just so so corrupt. Where there's money slashing around, there
is corruption. But that's kind of just lead up to
this story. The moral case for reforming medicare. This is
from the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal. Republicans
in Congress are they passed the budget outline last week.

(06:51):
That's an ongoing fight, will be for a long time.
We haven't talked much about it, but I wanted to
mention this. It's a once in a generation chance to
reform the government, but it will be squandered if the
GOP shrinks from difficult policy fights. Exhibit A is Medicaid,
the fast growing entitlement that now spends more than eight
hundred and fifty billion dollars a year while delivering subpar

(07:12):
healthcare for the poor. And the left in the press
are trying to intimidate the GOP from addressing the program's failures,
saying that they're trying to cut it and get rid
of it, and people will die in the streets. Now,
medic I'm paraphrasing.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Medicaid is the one that studies have shown you have
worse outcomes than if you didn't get involved at all.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, some studies have showed that. Yeah, But Republicans can
win the medicaid argument if they understand how the program
has gone wrong and make the case, make their case
in the moral terms it deserves. Here's here's the important part.
New research and pulling on Medicaid work requirements help to
clarify the stakes. More than six in ten able bodied

(07:52):
adults on Medicaid reported no earned income, according to report
from the Foundation for Government Accountability of think tank, and
six and ten able bodied adults on Medicaid get no income.
Voters tend to think of Medicaid as a safety net
for low income, pregnant women and disabled Americans, which is
how it started.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, it's not been that for so long, as our
friend Craig has pointed out over and over again. It's
amazing its reputation lives on for its original intended purpose.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
But Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act expanded the program into
a permanent titlement for childless men in prime working age. Wow.
Also worth mention a news seeking loser.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
I want this message to reach those of you who
are able bodied and don't work and live off the government.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
You.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
I despise you. You're pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself.
All your friends should be ashamed of you. Nobody should
be friends with you.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Wow. That's very judgmental.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Damn right it is. We need more shame. You should
be ashamed of the fact that you live off people
that go to work. Can I get memen shame or
a shame? Yes, thank you, thank you shame bell lady.
Also worth mentioning that Gaviy Newsom of cal Unicorny is
desperately trying to borrow billions of dollars to pay for

(09:12):
the state's callicade or whatever it's called, because he has
extended so many billions of dollars of care to illegal immigrants.
Remember Joe Wilson when Barack Obama said this will not
go to pay for illegal immigrants. Wilson said, you lie,
which may have been inappropriate and rude at the time.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
What was true. He was absolutely right. Anyway, Democrats claim
those on Medicaid or working, you'll hear statistics like this
one from the Kaiser Family Foundation. Ninety two percent of
able bodied medicaid adults under age sixty five worked fuller,
part time, or were indisposed for a good reason, such
as caring for a relative or attending school. But that

(09:54):
figure is derived from government survey data, which are self
reported and rely on sample sizes as small as a
few dozen people FGA. The think tank I studied earlier,
by contrast, obtained administrative records from state medicaid agencies in
twenty three states a far more complete picture of earnings

(10:15):
for nearly twenty one million able bodied adults on Medicaid.
It found that millions are declining to work at all,
which of course is terrible for the country economically, culturally,
in all sorts of ways, Democrats invariably paint this ordering
Americans back to work is indentured servitude unfair. But the
GOP's proposed Medicaid work requirements back in twenty twenty three

(10:38):
were extremely modest twenty hours a week, which could include
training for a job or volunteering at your local library.
Just do something or and Democrats portray that as some
sort of you were sending them into the salt mines
to be whipped.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Right, And you probably only need to claim that you're
volunteering at the library, don't need to actually show up
and doing you volunteering.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
So and and Republicans, by the way, and their cruel
plan offered exemptions for nearly anyone with applausible reason, pregnant,
have children, caring for an incapacitated relative, You're exempt. Got
a doctor's note saying you're unfit for exempt, you're enrolled
in school, getting help for drug or alcohol abuse, Okay,
you're exempt. That was the cruel Draconian.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Are so much more socialists than people realize. It reminds
me of when I couldn't couldn't get any childcare. None
of these people that I would, you know, contact on
these various websites to try to connect you with people
who want to be sitters. They would never never call
me back or show up or whatever. And somebody explained
to me, how, no, no, no, no, that those sites are

(11:45):
for you can show that you're making the effort to
look for a job so you can stay on your
government benefits because they actually are going to.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Take the job. Yeah, oh wow. So coming up Science
tells you how to have the perfect day and wacky
CIA schemes through his I guarantee you will be amused
and amazed.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
And one of my favorite headlines I've seen recently, do
you know child star Hailey Joe Osmond? He was a
kid from six cents who said I See dead people.
He had a rough week, good headline for the New
York Post.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Thanks to massive new proposed budget cuts and Health and
Human Services, the FDA may have to stop routine inspections
at food facilities, so look out for exciting new products
like Tyson's tangy buffalo beaks and thumbs. Yeah enough sauce,
you'll never.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Know bees and thumb thumbs chicken thumbs. Do you know
who Hailey Joel Osmond Is?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'd heard name.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I knew was somebody when I saw the picture. Oh yeah,
so he was the kid in the sixth cent Sense
with Bruce Willis. He's a little kid says I See
dead people. So he's a child star. Child stars have
a history of their lives not going that well. It's
a shocking to Joe and I and always has been
that people continue to try to get their kids to
become stars, even though like ninety five percent of the

(13:09):
time they end up in jailer dead like at a
young age, no.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Matter no matter what is offered, no matter how it
gratifies your ego or the child's don't don't don't, which
I used to think was primarily the whole.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Being rich and famous things such a you know, a
swirl of ugliness to get caught into. That was before
Harvey Weinstein, and you know, we realize the underbelly of Hollywood.
I mean it's worse than that. I mean, you don't
need to just throw money and fame at a kid
to have their lives be ruined.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
They're surrounded by awful, awful people their whole lives.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
They're going to abuse them.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Add some attention and flattery to that and becoming addicted
to the attention with even without the molesters and all.
It's just it's a terrible idea.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Haley Joel Osmond I see Dead People's now thirty seven
years old, and he had a rough goal of it
at the ski slopes Mammoth Lakes where I've been in California.
The other day This is not a good headline, Haley.
Joel Osmond hurls Jewish slurs at cops, almost loses pants
and arrest video.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I hate to almost lose your pants while hurling, you know,
anti Semitic slurs at law enforcement.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Almost loses pants?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
How does that happen?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
He called an officer an anti Semitic slur and a
Nazi while he was being arrested for public intoxication, which
I kind of assumed that. Yeah, anti Semitic slurt and Nazi.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
You gotta pick one.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, confusing, really confusing. You get you to have a
theme and you gotta stick with you gotta build a narrative.
You're not building a narrative here, although Jews across America
have kind of getten used to this. You're the Nazis
further Israel.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
So you had assumed the intoxication, Yeah, yeah, I assume
that was a factor.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
He was taken into police custody at Lakes, California, after
law enforcement received a call shortly before two pm for
an alleged intoxicated person at Mammoth Mountain Resort. Now, I'm
guessing you have to be pretty darn intoxicated for somebody
called the cops on you at a ski resort because
there are quite a few people there that are drunk, uh,
you know, late late morning, early afternoon at a.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Indoor stoned or whatever. Yes, that was the plan. That's
why we're here, That's.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Why I went.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
In body Cambridge bodycam footage, which The New York Post
has looked at, Osmond called a police officer an antivis
Semitic slur and a Nazi. As we mentioned, at one
point he shouted, I've been kidnapped by an effing Nazi.
He also claimed he was what a night merce scenario.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I mean, not only have you been abducted against your will,
but it turns out to be a member of the
National Socialist Party. He's perpetrated the crime.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
What a nightmare scenario in a beautiful afternoon. He also
claimed he was being attacked and accused officers of torturing me.
In the video, Ozma was her telling police you're effing
with my life. Is also caught on camera saying officers,
you'll wish you treated me nicer, which is a.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Version of do you know who I am? I see
people which.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Were big fans of you're gonna see a lawyer soon,
so you'll wish you treated me nicer. I'm a former
child star, don't you know?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
That? Is what he's sort of saying.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I was decent to you, and you're effing you're an
effing kike.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
It looks like is what he said. Yes, yes, terrible,
I'm an old timey Jewish s Yeah, hard to imagine
thinking that was appropriate in this scenario. And calling him
a Nazi again, but again, if you're being abducted by
national socialists, you're gonna be rattled. You're gonna say things
you don't mean.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Anyway, He's apologized and is embarrassed by his behavior, and
he is looking at going to rehab and all the
things that these sorts of people always do to try
to get out of trouble with very expensive lawyers.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Probably well, I wish him well. I hope he gets
clean and has a long, happy life. Again, almost lost
his pants, didn't lose his pants? Almost lost his pants?
How to have the perfect day, according to Science and
the CIA's Wild History. Next half hour, don't miss it,
Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
What's the proper thing to say? I want to say?
The proper thing do you say happy good Friday.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I do not. I never have.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
I think, even like very solid Christians say happy good Friday.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Don't. Oh yeah I don't. I'm just saying I don't
and take you know, quite in contrast to the completely phony.
If I'm offended, I'm right culture of universities. I've always
believed in Hey, if somebody means it as a kind
and friendly greeting, take it that way. Sure of course, Yeah,
it was the day that Jesus was tortured to death

(17:47):
on the cross and killed. But yeah, if somebody says
happy good Friday, take it in the spirit it's intended.
I just tend not to. But anyway, best wishes and
a most respectful good Friday and Easter weekend to all
of our friends. So how to have a perfect day
according to science? I just I wanted to mention this
real quickly. Had a conversation yesterday, actually had a couple

(18:11):
in a row last couple of days with a young man.
Brief bit of background, My sweet wife and I are
expanding our back patio, so we have some screened in
place to hang out when the bugs are bad and
it's we're on a gentle slope and so it's kind
of high off the ground and it's supported by bricks.
It's a brick house anyway, and so there's got to

(18:37):
be a pretty substantial foundation poard to support all the
bricks and cinder blocks and stuff to build up to
the level of the patio anyway. So the foundation people
have been in our backyard now for several days doing
what they do, which includes digging rather a deep ditch
and then this incredibly complex web of rebar bent to

(19:00):
custom shapes and then cinder blocks in a particular pattern.
And I've been asking the guys the foreman because oddly enough, Jack,
a number of the fellows involved don't speak English, but uh,
the foreman Yeah, I know, it's crazy, but the foreman do.
And French exactly. They're all Frenchmen. They're all working like crazy,

(19:24):
and they're berets, smoking their smelly cigarettes. It's wonderful to watch.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
And they're tight striped shirts like Pablo exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Anyway. But No, in talking to these guys, it is
absolutely striking a how much they like what they do,
and b because I'm fascinated by it, and I think
they like that they're proud of what they do. Absolutely
they're very bright, very conscientious, and and and actually kind

(19:55):
of charming too because they're so you know, enthusiastic about
what they do and want to do a good job
and pick your own path in life. And everybody needs to.
And I don't judge anybody who does. You know, what
they think is right, as long as you know you
don't hurt anybody. But the idea that those guys are
somehow lesser than somebody with some dopey degree who's in

(20:18):
a cubicle doing something that makes them miserable is practically
obscene to me. To look down on those guys, Well,
it's obscene and it's just flat wrong. Even even if
that's not your thing. Different people like different things. It's
funny you bring this up. I got angry listening to

(20:40):
a podcast here day. I was listening to Jonah Goldberg
of The Dispatch. Maybe you see him on CNN now
and then, but he grew up in New York, so
he doesn't have this point of view. But he was.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
He was talking about manufacturing jobs coming back and everything
like that, and it became very clear to me, as
a guy who's lived the way he's lived, he doesn't
know there are lots of people who would hang themselves
if they had to live in New York City. I
know tons of people who would rather be dead than

(21:11):
live the rest of their lives in a place like
New York City. And he just didn't seem to grasp it. Now,
there are a lot of people that want to live
in a rural, cold place and work outside. They prefer that,
Like everybody I grew up with prefers that. And you know,
a lot of your elite can't imagine that that's true,

(21:33):
and so they think it's just horrible that somebody is
doing certain kind of jobs in certain kind of places.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's meaning to me. Yeah, yeah, So anyway, tip of
the cap to all you fellows and gals who do
that sort of thing. And you're certainly respected around here.
So this is really an interesting story.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
So much better for the country if we could break
out of that, so much better for the country.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah. The whole university mill of.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
And it gets more expensive, and then the kids come
out and they don't have anything to do anyway, and.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Just the whole thing it's like a scam designed to
make zillions of dollars. Huh. Anyway, and again the judgment
of good, hardworking people is what makes me angry anyway.
Ah so, how to have the perfect day? How what
if you could engineer the perfect day, not by luck
or with crystals, but actual science. That's exactly right. The

(22:28):
University of British Columbia analyzed data from the American Time
Use Survey, which recorded how thousands of people spent their
time across more than one hundred activities. By comparing these
patterns with whether participants rated their day is better than typical,
they were able to pinpoint the building blocks of an
exceptionally good day.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Okay, now we're searching the I'm guessing most people are
like me. They're thinking right now, what would be my
perfect day.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
This is not some sort of mountaintop. I'm with a
guru in a Paul sipping Margarita's and I have sex
with a supermodel. It's not that sort of thing. It's
a formula for having a great day or the BD
the best day ever. And I'm gonna get to the
end of this and you're gonna yell at me saying

(23:19):
I can't don't have time for that. You're yelling at science.
I represent science for the next two minutes.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Are you gonna yell at science.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Right exactly, that would make you a maniac. Here it
is the best day ever. And we will repost this
under hot links at armstrong and giddy dot com today
so you can find it. Six hours with family plus
two hours with friends, one and a half hours of

(23:49):
extra socializing. Wow, so you start? Would you like to
start yelling? Now? This is a lot of time with
other people? Keeping in mind these things can overlap. Two
hours of exercise to all it physical physical activity, one
hour of eating and drinking, and less than six hours

(24:12):
of work, indulging in only one hour of screen time,
and at most of fifteen minute commute.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
That is happiness right there, the commute, I buy.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Man.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
First of all, there aren't very many people who live
a day like that, right yeah, And just the exercise alone,
there are very many people who exercise.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Two hours a day. Sure again, you know, I think
they would include taking a walk with one of the
fforementioned friends or family members, that sort of thing. Catchyard.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I'm more of a loner than the average person, so
that's too much time.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
With other people for me. But that doesn't mean that's right.
And the gall wrote the follow up article to this
is a single gas without family in her city, and
so yeah, obviously spending six hours of family, it's going
to be difficult. But you know, if you boiled it
down and again, we'll post this so you can look
at it again, it's about Pee Paul in the person.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. I easily spend six
hours with family every day, just the way my life
is structured. So I'm thinking it would be cool if
like a fit bit or an Apple Watch or something
like that could give you, at the end of the
day how you spent your day, as opposed to just
you know, steps and an average heart rate or whatever. I'll

(25:36):
bet it'd be pretty depressing if you got to the
end of like a month, do a whole month, and
like you spent an average of two hours a day
staring at your phone, you spent an hour watching TV
that you weren't really that interested in, a sporting of
it you don't care about, or a TV show you
don't even really like, you spent this many hours in
your car and traffic, you spent this many hours you

(25:57):
know whatever. I'll bet it'd be pretty damn depressed.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, you know, the readout on me would be you
spent X number of hours trying to motivate yourself to
do the things you really care about, right, which is sad.
I remember one of the best things you've ever brought us,
I think it was you brought us this is the
idea that your priorities are what you do, not what
you say they are. That's a good one. Yeah. Ooh, sobering,

(26:25):
and it's Friday. I don't want to be sober. So
coming up unbelievable operations the CIA actually carried out since
its birth.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
You spent four hours last month trying to get the
password to work that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Oh, very depressed. Yeah, it's an angering and maybe, but
honestly it might make you reorder your life absolutely absolutely. Yeah,
that's good stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Okay, how about you? What's your perfect day? Text line
four one five, two nine five KFTC. Take on some
of your texts, son, what would be the perfect day?
Joe just ran down scientifically what the perfect day is
and maybe we'll talk about that in our four. So
our text line four one, five, two nine five KFTC.

(27:14):
If you don't get our four, get the podcast Armstrong
and Getty on demand. I had maybe my least favorite
thing that can happen in any given day. Last night
is when you can't stop coughing and you're trying to
go to sleep, and you just got that never ending
like tickle on the back of your throat, just like
you just feel like one more cough and you'll be done.
But you just and it lasted to like two am miserable.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Oh I hate that. You gotta have that that in medicine.
I recommended to you that the has a cough suppressant
in it. The only way I'd survived those things. Anyway,
I can't I can never remember the name of it anyway,
So this is absolutely crazy. Some of this stuff is
fairly recently declassified. Some of it's been known for a while,
but it's examples of some of the CIA's most audation

(28:00):
missions since it was formed in the twentieth century, in
the fifties in particular, and you may have heard some
of these. Some of them are new. This. You know,
you don't start the show with the show stopper, but this,
this is probably better off as the punchline. In the
nineteen fifties, the CIA dropped millions of anti communist pamphlets

(28:24):
from weather balloons flying over the Soviet controlled part of Europe,
but there was an idea that they worked to develop.
They drew up a plan to also have packets of
extra large condoms dropped on Communist nations, but the extra
large condoms would be labeled small or medium. The strategy

(28:45):
was to lower the morale of male citizens by suggesting
that they were physically inferior to their well endowed Western counterpart.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
This is not true. Those are somebody's idea and we
actually did it. No, it never came to fruition, but
it was game planned out.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
There are records.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, wow, that seems dumb.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I wish I had somehow found my way into that
line of work, dreaming up ridiculous plots for the CIA
to consider. How about this one, much more recent, The
CIA once hatched a plan to make an Osama Bin
laden action figure to distribute to children in the Middle East.

(29:32):
But here's the deal. When the action figure was exposed
to the sun, the face would peel off to reveal
a demon like character with red skin, green eyes, and
black markings, who accidentally bears an uncanny resemblance to Star
Wars character Darth Maul, which is neither here nor there.

(29:55):
And they actually made several prototypes before it was reject
did uh you know, to be implemented.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
So you're playing with your Osama bin Laden Kendall. You're
out in the sun and all of a sudden he
looks like a red skull from the Avengers movies.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Exactly. Yeah, and it freaks you out and you think
he's the devil, and you do something and then you're.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Up with invading Iraq or something something.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
That's probably where the plant the plan went to side
base with. What then, Jim, what are the kids going
to do that?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
I'm trying to stay Osamas like us, play it out
for me here, and what happens that?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Well, you know, they like think Osama's the devil? Okay,
all right, so they actually created three they think three
individual action figures prototypes. Oh what, I'd love to have
one of those. Yeah. Yeah, And honestly, it when his

(30:56):
face melts off. I'm looking at the picture right now.
It it pretty much just he looks like he's in
some sort of death metal band or something like that.
I don't know how the average you know, I don't
know Iraqi kid would take that. Here, here's another good one.
We're back in between the sheets. From nineteen forty five
till approximately well sometime in the seventies, the CIA ran

(31:16):
covert operations targeting foreign leaders who were either openly with
the Communists or leaning that way. There have been various viruses,
exploding cigars, other spry thriller type antics. President Akamed Sukarno
of Indonesia accused the US of trying to destroy him
for a sympathy toward Communism with a CIA produced porno

(31:40):
film that was referred to as Happy Days, which purported
to show Sakarno in this is a quote ecstatic sexual
congress with a woman, although the person involved was actually
an American performer in a mask. And as I read this,
I thought, what I bet everybody's thinking right now, How

(32:00):
easy would that be to do right now? With Ai?
It's effortless. Yeah. The CIA's plan was to circulate film
pretending it had been secretly made by the KGB in
the course of a visit by Sukarno to the Soviet Union.
Like the other stuff, I don't think it was implemented. Oh,

(32:21):
the plan backfired. So Kara was actually impressed with how
he was depicted in the film because it showed him
leaving his Russian girl partner a glow with fulfillment is
the quote. And he reportedly ordered this distribution throughout Indonesia.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Because it made him look good.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Gotcha, Yeah, yeah, all right, we have time for a
couple more. I like this one, if only because it's
a great name for a band. Remote controlled dogs. The
CIA created remote control dogs by operating on their brains
during a bizarre nineteen sixty three mind control experiment. According
to recently declassified documents, researchers implanted a device in I

(33:00):
had six dogs skulls and used a remote control to
guide them through an open field. Oh wow, the pooches
could be made to run, turn, and stop for real
as the scientists, yeah, zap the reward centers of their
brains with electrical currents. According to CIA papers published in
nineteen sixty five, I'm actually mildly surprised that we had
that sort of capability to that extent in nineteen sixty five.

(33:22):
I'm sure it did not do the dogs any good,
but quote. The specific game of the research program was
to examine the feasibility of controlling the behavior of a
dog in an open field by means of remotely stimulated
electrical stimulation, et cetera. They eventually abandoned those experiments.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
I don't want to torture dogs, but some of these
it'd be pretty fun to have that be your job,
coming up with wacky ideas and putting together protects and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah. Yeah, Now you've probably heard about the CIA's brainwashing
experiments during the fifties and sixties, experimenting with techniques designed
to make a person kill someone then have no recollection afterward.
Codinated mk ULTRA, the program involved some one hundred and
forty nine separate experiments, many on unwitting Americans who had

(34:06):
not consented to being guinea pigs, including a Kentucky mental
patient who was dosed with LSD for one hundred and
seventy nine days straight. Wow. That's horrible, utterly, utterly unforgivable.
It was officially launched this program to develop better interrogation techniques,
as well as to explore the possibility of creating a

(34:27):
programmable assassin. Let's see. Many of the documents pertaining to
this mission mk ULTRA were destroyed in nineteen seventy three
on the CIA's order. Some survived and were revealed later
that decade.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
That was leading up to the Church Commission. That's what
they're trying to avoid there. If you know anything about that,
google it.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yikes. Yeah, And they go into a bunch of detail
on that one and experimentations with psychics and that.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Flat out human guinea pigs. You're using human guinea pigs
against their will.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Oh, yes, that's exactly what it was.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Wow, that is something I don't have to.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Really ended with the condoms, and not that this thing,
the super giant condoms to make them.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I haven't a schmoll schwunstucka compared to the American

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I'm so depressed right Therefore, I'm gonna fund Armstrong and
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