November 14, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- AI robots of deceased loved ones
- A&G Gavin Newsom shirt & CA billionaire tax
- Car insurance sky rockets & Epstein
- College sports betting scandal!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty Armstrong and Jetty,
I know he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
The New York Times last week published a profile on
three people who were in romantic relationships with AI chatbots.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And I know I had a girlfriend in college who
left me for Jeeves.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's my fault.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I remember one time I said, go ask someone else,
and that was it.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
AI relationships. We talked a lot about that earlier in
the week. If you didn't catch that, that was really
I'd forgotten about that. Or was that last week whenever
we did The New York Times had the profile of
three different people that were in AI relationships. I guess
that was a week ago, last Friday. But that was
a lot of people brought that up to me. Troubling,
very troubly. Oh yeah, yeah, and I think that's just beginning. Yeah,
(01:06):
and speaking obviously, it's just beginning.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I think it will grow and grow and grow until
human beings are unrecognizable.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, speaking of that sort of thing, what is this Basically,
we're about to hear Michael.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
What this is is there's a new app called two Way,
and then they basically take three minutes of video, let's say,
and then let me talk to my deceased loved ones.
So I could take my dad recently passed away, so
I could take three minutes of video, send it to him,
and then they would make an AI of him so.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I could talk to him an avatar on an avatar.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, you know, talking to you in their voice and
the facial expressions and all of it.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, okay, this is an example of that. He's getting bigger.
See oh my wonderful, kicking like crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
He's listening.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Put your hand on your tummy and hum damn. You
still love to say him. Hey, Charlie, I was school today.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It was really fun Loo.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Who's going to be a great grandmother?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Oh, Charlie, congratulation.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
She says that he's been kicking a lot though. Tell
her to put her hand on her tommy and hummed him.
You already said that, Robot, you would have loved this moment.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
You can call any time.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Thanks Robot. Grannie. Wow, you know it's funny.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I was reading about this and thinking, you know, that's
a little odd when I heard Grannie, Oh, that's.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Wonderful Charlie had creep the hell out of me.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
In twenty twenty, Kanye gave Kim Kardashian a hologram message
of her late father for her birthday. So if it's
good enough for Kanye, So.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm trying to think of this in real life. Would
I get any pleasure slash enjoyment out of you know,
my parents are alive, but let's assume one of them
is passed and they didn't get to meet my kids.
(03:09):
Would I have gotten any enjoyment out of having a
fake video that looked and sounded like my dad saying,
you know, here's the should go out and play catch
with him and stuff like that. Would that just make
me incredibly Henry? How's school going? Yeah, before I even
introduce Henry to him? Just talking about myself? Would that
make me happy and fill me with like my dad's
(03:30):
getting to meet my son. I wish he were here,
or just make me unbearably sad, like really diving into
the fact that he's not here. I just I don't
feel like it would give me comforter or make me
happier in any way.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Maybe it's genetic or something, but I have the same reaction.
I would have to quote unquote a quote unquote AI
girlfriend slash lover. I'd think, Wow, this is a weird
simulacrum of real life and it's making me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And that's just for me because I assume that that's
what was going on there with the pregnant woman. Grandma's
not around, So now grandma is getting to talk to
you about your pregnancy and can you feel the baby cake.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And stuff like that? Does that make you feel good?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I mean, who's this for? It's not for grandma. Grandma's
dead and they ain't Grandma talking, So is this for you?
And do you feel like you've got a connection with
your grandma now.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Or does that just make you extra sad that she's
not around.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I don't get that at all. Who's enjoying this in
this scenario?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Katie? Do you understand maybe I'm missing.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Saying I hate this, but I also feel like it's
stripping away a part of life, Like I learned a
lot of lessons when my grandparents passed away, and you
know that whole you know, we lose people and it's
kind of making that blurry.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Wow, that's a great insight. It is removing one of
the basic rhythms of life. It's like when Rudolph the
Red Nose Reindeer became available year round. It's just you're
blowing up the rhythms that make life worth living.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Now, that's for the adults.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
That's like for me to have my dad, if he
were dead, come back and talk to me about my son.
I just think that would make me sadder rather than comforted.
Now to the kid, that makes you they should take
your kids away from you. If you're gonna have fake
grandma talk to your little kid who doesn't have the
ability to really understand what the hell is going on here,
(05:19):
that this segment brought to you by Two Way, that
is that is horrible having your little kid here talk
to fake grandma.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Are you gonna pretend she's alive?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Or are you gonna try to convince that talking to
robot people is a thing?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
What are you doing? I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
So they put this video online, try the two Way
beta on the app Store, Android coming soon, and immediately
people drew comparisons to an unsettling twenty thirteen episode of
Black Mirror entitled be Right Back, in which a grieving
woman uses an AI replica for dead partner. Social media
users did not hold back. Many call the videos nightmare
(05:59):
fuel monic, and some claim the technology should be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Nightmare fuel.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah the whole hey son, talk to phone app Grandma.
She wants to hear about your big math test. Yeah,
you really ought to have your kids taken away?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, So most of the stuff is presented to us.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You think, well, if that worked, I could conceive of
wanting that, Like the robot we were talking about last
Hour Hour one, the Tesla robot. If it can mold
the lawn, fold the laundry, I don't know, rake the leaves.
You could see how that possibly might be something you want.
In this one, are are most people reacting to, Oh
(06:44):
that sounds great? How soon can I get fake dead
relatives talking to me? Or is everybody reacting like us?
One that would make me sad or not happier. And two,
I'm not introducing it to my kids because it's gonna
twist their little minds.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
All right, just you're failing to see the future. I'm
combining both concepts. I've got you. Look out in your
front yard and there's your old dead grandpa raking leaves
a perfect replica ropot of him.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Huh huh killing two birds with one stone. Yes, so
we could bring Grandpa back to life. What we do
is have him do manual labor around the house to
free us up to do other things, both heartwarming and practical.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's the new Getti bot. Boy.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
If I could bring my dad back, I'd have him
right belong so I could watch his football game.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Sounds like a great alpda help around the house. This
is so clearly the final chapter of you man.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Oh if my mom we're just here today, she could
so much so I could go out to the bar.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh my god, Oh Laura, all right, we need to stop. Wow,
that's what I want. An odd thing.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Do they think they're presenting? And maybe I'm wrong? Maybe
I'm an outlier. I'm often an outlier on things. Are
they presenting this to people and people are saying, Oh,
they'd be so fantastic that my son, who never got
to meet my dad grandpa, could have an interaction with him.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Are people doing that feeling?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
No, No, that the interactive part is the bizarre and
demonic part. To me, excuse me, if you could I mean,
if you could have like a super realistic based on
their actual voice from videos, that sort of thing, because
that's what this does. Like my mom, who I missed
very much, if I could have her this is coming
(08:42):
together in my mind in real time, either saying things
that she frequently said or said in the video in
a rapidly accessible form. I suppose I could put a
video clip on my phone. I mean, just like to
have my mom with my mom's voice saying what she
used to say that I could see, instead of just
(09:05):
to still photograph in a readily accessible form. That would
be kind of nice, But no, I don't want it
pretending to wonder how my day went.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, this is an extreme Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I didn't think that people would get into relationships with chatbots,
and a lot more people are doing it than I realized.
So maybe that crowd would be happier in heck to
have fake grandma pretending to care about near unborn child.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Okay, so I'm there at the two Way brain Trust
meeting and our zombie Gramma thing just didn't sell.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Here's my next concept.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Historical figures carefully crafted based on all their writing and speaking,
everything that's known about them, how their voice was described contemporaneously,
Washington would probably have a fairly regal British accent, somewhat
softened to buy his time here in the colonies, that
(10:05):
sort of thing. Talk to Abe Lincoln. That would be
interesting that.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I would do.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That is very very cool, But that's a completely different thing.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Then agreed.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, yeah, Look, we poured all this money into a
zombie Grandma go. We gotta come up with something to
make some profits. So I'm going with the uh living Lincoln.
We're gonna call it.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I wish my grandma was still alive so she could
watch the kids so I can go to this concert tonight.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Wait, now you can.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
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Speaker 3 (11:34):
One thing I've been saying for years to people about
this job is it made me realize there's way more
crazy people than you think there are. So if you
live kind of a regular life and you bump up
with against mostly regular people your entire life, you have
a certain concept of what people are like. And then
(11:56):
doing this job. Used to just be letters, was email,
now email and text and now social media reinteraction with
the show, there are way more crazy people than you
ever thought because you don't run into them out there
in the real world. So and or irrational. Yeah, crazy,
(12:17):
I'm using a very vague vert. Crazy people that are
way different than you are. Like, way different than you are.
There's a lot more of them than you think, and
so I need to keep that in mind. With the
percentage of people that might fall in love with chatbots
or want ai grandma to talk to their kid or
give them comforting advice or about life or whatever. It
(12:39):
might be way more of them than I think, way more.
And what percentage would you need to have before it
kind of up in society? If five percent of society
is doing only on robot grandma's and robot relationships, what
does that do to things? I don't know?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Is this some sort of Darwinian thinning of the herd? Wow?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I say most people are not going to reproduce? Just
clicked in my head.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah that's an interesting thought and maybe maybe a net positive.
We don't agree not but maybe yeah, they can't reproduce.
They won't certainly let me ask.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
My robot Lincoln. Well, in my opinion for score.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
So much fun checking out with the stock market that
went way down yesterday, down pretty decent today.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
What's it all about? Is the big question?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Lots of other stuff talk about stay here, California're going
to be the first state to with a billionaire's penalty
at least that's going to be a prop that we
vote on soon.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Stay tuned for details on that.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
And speaking of big money, fourteen arrested in New Jersey
yesterday on a new in a new sports betting scandal,
so stay tuned for those details. They are literally flying
off the shelves at the Armstrong You Getty superstore, the
T shirt that is emblazoned in lovely fashion with ruin
(14:06):
the Entire Country, Newsome twenty twenty eight. He laugh, I laughed,
Or if you prefer your emphasis on entire ruin the
Entire Country, Newsom, twenty twenty eight, people are loving them.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Uh, And that's flying off the shelves. It's like one
of the hottest items we've ever had in our store.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
What I loved, I can't.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I can't wait to wear mine. I cannot wait. So this,
I'm gonna be like a little kid with a Superman
a costume. I'm gonna wear it to sleep, I'm gonna
wear when I get up in the morning. I'm gonna
cry when I have to take it off to take
a shower.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
To Gavin Newsom's credit, which I rarely say, he actually
opposes this new Union backed ballot measure aimed at billionaires.
I think it's because he's running for president, although the
Elizabeth Warren AOC Bernie Sanders wing might come after him
(15:02):
for opposing this. But anyway, here's the idea behind it.
This ballot initiative, proposed by healthcare workers unions, would take
aim at the richest people in the richest state with
a one time five percent tax on net worth over
a billion dollars. This would mean pursuing assets like stocks, artwork,
(15:23):
intellectual property in addition to income and everything else. It's
just you are super rich. You're super rich to have
a bunch of stuff, so we're going to take five percent.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Of it intellectual property, so like a patent or the hell.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
It almost seems like it's designed to make whoever hasn't
gone to Texas yet, like Elon Musk leave California to
get Zuckerberg and is Altman already in Texas? Who all
your big players Google whoever? To force them to leave
the state.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I think you would see a mass exodus of the
biggest names in tech.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, this proposal represents am reading from the Wall Street Journal,
this proposal represents an unprecedented effort to tax modern wealth
now they need eight turned to seventy five thousand signatures.
But I've seen crazier things happen in the thirty years
that I've been in California. I never thought we'd get
driver's licenses for illegals. Was laughable in the beginning, then
became just a thing. So maybe taxing billionaires for the
(16:31):
fact that they've accumulated that much wealth and driving them
out of the state will become a thing too. In
terms of billionaires by state, California is way the leader.
California has an estimated two hundred and fifty five billionaires,
more than any other state and almost a quarter of
the US total. Let's take their stuff, Let's take their money,
(16:52):
because how dare they? How dare they right?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
How they dare they come up with something that everybody wants?
We'll punish them for that.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
What a weird way to look at the world that,
by definition, because they're billionaires, they deserve to give us
more money, and they've probably done something wrong to get
that money, because there's no way you become a billionaire
playing chair.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yeah yeah, Well, if you see the entire world through
the lens of victim and an oppressor, and everybody is
one or the other. It's easy to figure out what
a billionaire would be. By the way, this is a
wasted breath, But a reasonable value added tax would take
care of virtually every objection in the left, right, and
center to the tax code where expenditures are taxed, period,
(17:42):
because I know what they're driving at the wealthy. They
borrow against the value of their stocks and they spend
that money and they don't have to enlist it as income.
Blah blah blah. Value add attacks would solve that. But again,
wasted breath. It'll never happen because our tax code exists
to a engineer society to some extent, and b handout
favors to the powerful.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Affordability is the word of the day, word of the week,
word of the month, maybe the word of the next
several years. We can talk about that among other things
coming up.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Armstrong and getty. Things are getting better.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
As a presidential signature reopened the government, the president's mind
jumped to the midterms.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
When we come up to midterms and other things, don't
forget what they've done.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
To our country.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Vice President Vance is rolling out the latest messaging on affordability,
tying high prices two high rates of illegal immigration.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
A lot of young people are saying housing is way
too expensive.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Why is that because we flooded the.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
Country with thirty million illegal immigrants who were taking houses
that ought by right go to American citizens.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I think the tying illegal immigration to rents and housing
prices is a bit of a stretch. And one of
the reasons I think that is it's a brand new
argument that just landed all of us sudden after getting
killed in the elections last Tuesday around the issue of affordability,
and everybody's talking about it, and it's such a clear
win if you can make it seem like illegal immigration
(19:12):
cause it well, that's something we're good at and it
wasn't our fault.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Well and as a couple of immigration hawks ourselves, it's
not a non factor in housing. But to go there
first is just silly. Certainly a brand new argument. Yeah,
I don't remember ever saying that before. I've heard that
in urban areas, you know, drives up the rents and
that sort of thing. But yeah, to say that that's
the number one reason is just silly.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I just mean out of the Trump White House, I
don't remember ever hearing them use that as the reason
it seems like a brand new argument that they've rolled about,
which is politically maybe clever. This whole concept of a
national conversation. You hear this sometimes when people say we
need to have a national conversation about we need to
have a conversation in this country about race or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
It is quite understood what it is. But I guess
it's just.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
The chattering going on in the air right or on
your computer and articles here and there, and what podcasts
are saying, and what radio talk show hosts like us
are saying, and whatever people are saying. I guess that's
what a national conversation is. And I think it's definitely
a good thing. If we're going to have a national
(20:22):
conversation about affordability, just all the way around and make
that the number one topic. I think that's a damn
good idea because things are really expensive, and I don't
know what the prescription is for fixing this. I think
acknowledging the fact that it's true, since whoever's in power
has a great motivation to pretend it's not true. Joe
(20:42):
Biden claiming that inflation, no, there is no inflation. Okay,
there is, but it won't be here long are things
are actually great out there?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
And when they weren't.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
And then Donald Trump the other day saying, you know,
I'm not we have the best economy in the world
and I'm not getting credit for it. Well, at least
prior to yes, we were setting records every day on
the stock market. But that doesn't make any difference when
you go to the grocery store, you go to Denny's
like I did last Saturday night with my kids, and
it's sixty five dollars for us to eat at Denny's.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I mean, what the hell we Oh?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, affluent people are going around saying, my god, everything's
so expensive in the base of the MAGA base, it's
you know, maybe not panic might overstate.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
It, but it's not too many steps below panic. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
So brought up insurance because somebody had mentioned in an email.
Everybody talks about eggs and coffee and rent, but nobody
talks about car.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Insurance and homeowners insurance. Just incredible.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Those are things you need to have if you need to.
If you own a home, you have DEVID car insurance.
For instance. We got a couple of texts. This is
from somebody in Carson City. Thanks for listening to us
on the Reno station. Probably their nineteen year old son
just passed the driver's test, and he said, that's a
whole other story. While kids are getting their driver's licenses
so much later. I know that's more and more common now.
(22:03):
But man, I got my driver's license. Well I got
it at fourteen, but in Kansas at the time. But
there's no way I would have waited until I was
nineteen to get my driver's license.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I would have endured a whipping every day for six
weeks if it got me my driver's license, right, No
gidding sixteen anyway.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Talking about the car insurance for their kid five sixty
a month or for six months, it's three three hundred
and sixty dollars for a nineteen year old to have
car insurance on the car.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
That they got him. Great Scott, five sixty a month.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I mean most of us, going back in the day,
if you were gonna buy a car and make car payments,
you just thought about the car payment. You didn't think
about the insurance because it was gonna be something, but
you didn't really need it wasn't enough to really factor in.
Now you have to look at it like the beck,
like the car payment. It might be more than the
car payment.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
You've got to just strip everything down to liability and
like ensuring the other driver and if you plow into
them or whatever, because that's just that's not it's a
non starter.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, here's another example.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I have a twenty twelve Honda Fit and I pay
one to eighty seven a month for the bare minimum
insurance to let me get almost two hundred dollars a
month for a probably paid off, thirteen year old small car.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So yeah, when it comes to affordability, I don't know
what can be done about homeowner's insurance and car insurance.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You know, I don't even want to say this out loud.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I'm a renter. Currently, renders insurance is still ridiculously cheap.
Oh yeah, why renders insurance so freaking cheap?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's just your stuff, it's not the structure, I guess.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, your your evil clutching landlord has to pay that,
although it's in your rent, as anybody with any economic
sense understands.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah. Yeah, hey, getting back, you know, i'd like to.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Take talk more about car insurance and homeowners insurance, but
they're kind of different beasts and a lot of complexity.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
There, a lot of layers of regulation.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Oh sure, they're different beasts, but they are left out
of the conversation. You know, Like I said earlier, eggs
schmegs quit talking about the price I eggs my car
insurance is killing me.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'll eat oatmeal, but I got to insure my car.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, agreed, completely, Getting back to our previous topic, which
doesn't matter, doesn't need to be reset. But folks within
MAGA or certainly the Republican Party of the Republican base
being unhappy with the president and vocally so it's definitely
on the increase. Whether it's the Epstein thing, which we
(24:42):
were going to circle back to, not to discuss at
their length, but we got the inevitable couple of emails
and texts from people who are just really unhappy with us.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I'm looking at CBS News. They're interviewing Marjorie Taylor Green
right now. She's on there talking about the Epstein files,
and she's hardcore. These things need to be released and
it's the big story on CBS right now.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, she's also.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Hardcore denouncing the reason aide to Argentina.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
But she's as meg as you can get or I
don't even know what that means anymore. Has Megan now?
Has Magan now become a thing separate from Trump?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I guess is the question that is the question? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Absolutely, Trump says no, I invented it, So what I
say goes uh uh that it's mostly true but not entirely.
But MGT is a MTG is also a hardcore on
what was the other one, oh, extending the Obamacare something
of all horrific things. Something we're going to get into
during our three of the show, so to stay tuned.
But then they name checking the Washington Post and it's
(25:41):
pretty even handed article. It's not like liberal journalism that
there's definitely more open criticism. You're Thomas Massey's your Marjorie
Taylor Green's Trump upset a lot of people when he
was pushing for more h one B visus the other
day saying we don't have enough talented people in the country,
we need to import workers. That caused at least a
(26:01):
mini flap where this goes. Nobody knows events, dear boy, events.
As the old English statesman, I once said.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I forget who I was watching last night, somebody else
who was more MAGA than Trump in our government, and thinking,
if it's kind of like AI, you know, inventing AI.
You could be the researcher that invented AI. But then
it goes off on its own, the alignment problem, and
it's really its own thing now and you're not in charge.
(26:29):
I wonder if MAGA is going to be like that
as a movement. Trump invented and everything, and he had
control over for qua a while, but now it's kind
of off on, off on off, on its own, and
it's going to do its own thing, and you're, you know,
be out of office in three years and it'll be
whatever it's going to be.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Right, Well, the heck, the history of political movements is
often the guy who led the charge ends up on
the gallows or separated from his noggin or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
That's why you kill all your rivals in that sort
of system.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
But uh, don't forget, MAGA was my idea, Trump told
Laura Ingraham the other day, Laura Ingram, MAGO is nobody
else's idea. I know what MAGA wants better than anybody else.
Same day, I guess it was the next day he
called the Jeffrey Epstein hoax a distraction pushed by Democrats
and said that only a very bad or stupid Republican
(27:16):
would fall into that trap. You know, Trump could shoot
somebody on Fifth Avenue and get away with it with
a lot of his base, But I don't think it
can call him stupid and get away with it.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
We did get a text about the Epstein files that
fits in with the several we've done. Every time you
attempt to sweep the Epstein files under the rug or
minimize the story, and more information implicating Trump comes out,
you two just look like fools covering up for the
actions of a pedophile, or at least a close buddy
of a convicted pedophile.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
You know that's funny. That doesn't bother me at all.
That's just factually incorrect. I've gone through everything that's been
really so far, and it is a nothing burger with
air fries.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
It's just nothing.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
On the other hand, we get emails like the one
from Ben in Texas, who I'll summarize the first time
I have been disgusted by your take on something. I
can't even imagine being one of the many Epstein survivors
who publicly come out and said there are other rich
and powerful abusers who have been named in police and
FBI reports that for some reason, have faced zero consequences.
(28:22):
We would like that to change, only to hear radio
hosts called her please dumb and a nothing burger. No,
if survivors are actually saying that we have and never
would call that dumb and a nothing burger, it's the
greater scandal and the call by hypocritic politicians, hypocritical politicians
to release the files that they've had in their possessions
for years and years, that is fake And on the
(28:46):
substance of your note, Ben and I don't mind you
being upset and disagreeing this fine, We can absolutely still
be friends. I don't think people fully realize how awful
it would be if every person named in every investigation
the authorities.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Came out and said it publicly.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
So there's very little evidence you did anything bad, or
practically none, but you were named in the investigation. Maybe
there's some evidence that you may have been up to
something bad, but there's nothing close to prosecutable levels of
information to have the FBI come out and name you know,
Jack Armstrong and Katie Green as part of a sex
(29:33):
trafficking investigation, when in fact you were cleared or or
they just you know, there's no evidence really to look
further around.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You were never going to be charged with anything, right,
that would be horrific.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Well, as you've been putting up from the beginning of
the Epstein story, what are we talking about here? So
are we talking about I'll just use some names that
have been floated out there, Bill Gates, Adam Dershowitz, Ahud Barack,
former Prime Minister of Israel. Were they knowingly having sex
with underage women and got away with it? If they
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were and you could prove it, then you ought to
go after him. But are you talking about the and
I think a lot of you are, because I know
some of you. Are you talking about the giant child
pedal ring that all of Hollywood is involved in and
Michelle Obama and the Clintons and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
None of that happened or is happening. That doesn't exist.
And if that's what you're talking about, and I know
a lot of you are, we're not covering up anything
because that's fake.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That is completely phony. So it's not a real thing.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Final word to Ben in Texas. Ben, you made it
perfectly clear you don't believe what Jack was talking about.
So you're not in that group. If there are people
so wealthy and powerful that the authorities dare not charge
them with statutory rape, for instance, our sex trafficking, but
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there's mountains of evidence against them, I would agree one
hundred percent with you that we need to get to
the bottom of that and it must come out one
way or another. But both parties have had a good
solid shot at the information for a long time and
the opportunity to bring down each other's you know, sacred cows,
and they haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah. I was watching MSNBC last night.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
They the focus of their our News program was the
Epstein thing, and they had a panel of people on there,
including our friend David Drucker who's now with The Dispatch,
and he kind of threw cold water on their conversation
when he said, you know, a lot of these emails
that they mentioned Trump, and it's kind of exciting to
(31:49):
see Trump's name and everything, but he said, nothing implicates
him in anything at all yet. So and yeah, we're
pretty far down the road of this. Lots of lots
of emails and details and information and still nothing.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Close, not even a concrete leak right right, which just
tells me there's nothing there.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Although Ben, we certainly could be wrong.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It's funny that you should bring up the Trump involvement,
which I've kind of almost forgotten about as we were.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Talking about the others.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Just another one of these six to eight different versions
of the Epstein thing that people are coming at this
with that point of view.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Well for the left, which again MSNBC, this is their
lead story all week long. It's all about Trump's involvement
and there's just nothing there. Have fun, yea, Rachel, Have fun, Rachel. Okay,
we got more on the way. Stay here.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Lift off for a massive Blue Origin rocket, the company's
new Glen rocket now making its way to Mars with
a pair of NASA spacecraft.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
The rocket's mission to.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Mars is the first major test for the space company,
owned by Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It also marked a big win for Blue Origins.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
Rocket booster landed safely back on Earth, a feat only
achieved by Elon Musk's SpaceX.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I hope they get to Mars in my lifetime and get,
you know, great footage coming out of there, and learn
all kinds of stuff fascinating.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Katy Perry will be missed on Earth. However, I assume
she's on that rocket ships.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Tell us if she's in the Blue Origins leading astronauts
she's not, she should be Yes, shoot her. I've been
saying that for a long time.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
So just a real quickly, College sports rocked by mafia
led gambling scandal fourteen charged and of course.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
New Jersey forget about it.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
College wrestlers, two former ructors, university wrestlers, and a newly
certified NBA agent Wrestling individuals charge.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Who's betting on college wrestling betters?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
In short, let's see the charges are the usual two
million dollar online sports betting operation. One alleged lou Casey
Mob family soldier Joseph Lull Joe perna is acting as
a acted as a financier supporting the operation with a
couple of his sons.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Forget about it, you put him in a fireman's carry
in the third period. I'm gonna bet on a headlock
and that'll cause me to win or something.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
You're gonna get him down, but then you're gonna get
let him get up, and then you're gonna get him
down again. If I could, I would. We are going
to hear about this sort of thing so routinely. It's
like the you know, the the police blotterer in your
local paper back in the day, you know, a fender bender.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I have a feeling, isn't betting on college wrestling? Kind
of like if you're a drinker and you're in the
cabinet drinking vanilla extract? I mean, aren't you to the
point where you ought to realize you got a problem?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yummy yummy good stuff. Actually they don't make clear that
it's about wrestling. It was a couple of former wrests
who are charged offshore sites, etcetera. Et Sara, Yeah, okay, ah,
right again, we're gonna hear about this all the time. Oh,
speaking of the business pages, mention this at the very
(35:14):
very end of yesterday's show, And the more I read,
the more interesting it becomes. Who pays when AI is wrong?
And they tell a story of this solar contractor in Minnesota,
Wolf River Electric. They started to lose all sorts of business,
and they started calling clients and saying, hey, why did
you cancel? We've had a great relationship. Bap bah bah,
And they said, well, you know, you've been sued by
(35:35):
the government for deceptive sales practices, and the Wolf River
guys are like waw ai, completely.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Made it up.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
They think maybe based on a video game that has
a location near called Wolf River, or the game is
called Wolf River.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
It does need to be for any reason. Sometimes it
makes stuff up out of thin.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Air, right, And they go into a bunch of different
examples of this, And part of the problem them with
slander laws is that there has.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
To be intent.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, we need to merely be wrong. This could end
the whole AI thing, depending on the court rulings, might
be the end of AI. I'm sorry, we got to cancel.
AI can't happen because of this.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Next hour plus the Republican Party needs to figure out
healthcare or it should fold up its big tent and
go away all next hour.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Please stay with us, Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The New York Times last week published a profile on
three people who were in romantic relationships with AI chatbots.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And I know I had a girlfriend in college who
left me for Jeeves.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's my fault.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I remember one time I said, go ask someone else,
and that was it.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
AI relationships. We talked a lot about that earlier in
the week. If you didn't catch that, that was really
I'd forgotten about that. Or was that last week whenever
we did The New York Times had the profile of
three different people that were in AI relationships. I guess
that was a week ago, last Friday. But that was
a lot of people brought that up to me. Troubling,
very troubly. Oh yeah, yeah, and I think that's just beginning. Yeah,
(01:06):
and speaking obviously, it's just beginning.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I think it will grow and grow and grow until
human beings are unrecognizable.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, speaking of that sort of thing, what is this Basically,
we're about to hear Michael.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
What this is is there's a new app called two Way,
and then they basically take three minutes of video, let's say,
and then let me talk to my deceased loved ones.
So I could take my dad recently passed away, so
I could take three minutes of video, send it to him,
and then they would make an AI of him so.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I could talk to him an avatar on an avatar.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, you know, talking to you in their voice and
the facial expressions and all of it.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, okay, this is an example of that. He's getting bigger.
See oh my wonderful, kicking like crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
He's listening.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Put your hand on your tummy and hum damn. You
still love to say him. Hey, Charlie, I was school today.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It was really fun Loo.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Who's going to be a great grandmother?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Oh, Charlie, congratulation.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
She says that he's been kicking a lot though. Tell
her to put her hand on her tommy and hummed him.
You already said that, Robot, you would have loved this moment.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
You can call any time.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Thanks Robot. Grannie. Wow, you know it's funny.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I was reading about this and thinking, you know, that's
a little odd when I heard Grannie, Oh, that's.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Wonderful Charlie had creep the hell out of me.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
In twenty twenty, Kanye gave Kim Kardashian a hologram message
of her late father for her birthday. So if it's
good enough for Kanye, So.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm trying to think of this in real life. Would
I get any pleasure slash enjoyment out of you know,
my parents are alive, but let's assume one of them
is passed and they didn't get to meet my kids.
(03:09):
Would I have gotten any enjoyment out of having a
fake video that looked and sounded like my dad saying,
you know, here's the should go out and play catch
with him and stuff like that. Would that just make
me incredibly Henry? How's school going? Yeah, before I even
introduce Henry to him? Just talking about myself? Would that
make me happy and fill me with like my dad's
(03:30):
getting to meet my son. I wish he were here,
or just make me unbearably sad, like really diving into
the fact that he's not here. I just I don't
feel like it would give me comforter or make me
happier in any way.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Maybe it's genetic or something, but I have the same reaction.
I would have to quote unquote a quote unquote AI
girlfriend slash lover. I'd think, Wow, this is a weird
simulacrum of real life and it's making me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And that's just for me because I assume that that's
what was going on there with the pregnant woman. Grandma's
not around, So now grandma is getting to talk to
you about your pregnancy and can you feel the baby cake.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And stuff like that? Does that make you feel good?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I mean, who's this for? It's not for grandma. Grandma's
dead and they ain't Grandma talking, So is this for you?
And do you feel like you've got a connection with
your grandma now.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Or does that just make you extra sad that she's
not around.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I don't get that at all. Who's enjoying this in
this scenario?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Katie? Do you understand maybe I'm missing.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Saying I hate this, but I also feel like it's
stripping away a part of life, Like I learned a
lot of lessons when my grandparents passed away, and you
know that whole you know, we lose people and it's
kind of making that blurry.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Wow, that's a great insight. It is removing one of
the basic rhythms of life. It's like when Rudolph the
Red Nose Reindeer became available year round. It's just you're
blowing up the rhythms that make life worth living.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Now, that's for the adults.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
That's like for me to have my dad, if he
were dead, come back and talk to me about my son.
I just think that would make me sadder rather than comforted.
Now to the kid, that makes you they should take
your kids away from you. If you're gonna have fake
grandma talk to your little kid who doesn't have the
ability to really understand what the hell is going on here,
(05:19):
that this segment brought to you by Two Way, that
is that is horrible having your little kid here talk
to fake grandma.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Are you gonna pretend she's alive?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Or are you gonna try to convince that talking to
robot people is a thing?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
What are you doing? I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
So they put this video online, try the two Way
beta on the app Store, Android coming soon, and immediately
people drew comparisons to an unsettling twenty thirteen episode of
Black Mirror entitled be Right Back, in which a grieving
woman uses an AI replica for dead partner. Social media
users did not hold back. Many call the videos nightmare
(05:59):
fuel monic, and some claim the technology should be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Nightmare fuel.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah the whole hey son, talk to phone app Grandma.
She wants to hear about your big math test. Yeah,
you really ought to have your kids taken away?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, So most of the stuff is presented to us.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You think, well, if that worked, I could conceive of
wanting that, Like the robot we were talking about last
Hour Hour one, the Tesla robot. If it can mold
the lawn, fold the laundry, I don't know, rake the leaves.
You could see how that possibly might be something you want.
In this one, are are most people reacting to, Oh
(06:44):
that sounds great? How soon can I get fake dead
relatives talking to me? Or is everybody reacting like us?
One that would make me sad or not happier. And two,
I'm not introducing it to my kids because it's gonna
twist their little minds.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
All right, just you're failing to see the future. I'm
combining both concepts. I've got you. Look out in your
front yard and there's your old dead grandpa raking leaves
a perfect replica ropot of him.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Huh huh killing two birds with one stone. Yes, so
we could bring Grandpa back to life. What we do
is have him do manual labor around the house to
free us up to do other things, both heartwarming and practical.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's the new Getti bot. Boy.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
If I could bring my dad back, I'd have him
right belong so I could watch his football game.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Sounds like a great alpda help around the house. This
is so clearly the final chapter of you man.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Oh if my mom we're just here today, she could
so much so I could go out to the bar.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh my god, Oh Laura, all right, we need to stop. Wow,
that's what I want. An odd thing.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Do they think they're presenting? And maybe I'm wrong? Maybe
I'm an outlier. I'm often an outlier on things. Are
they presenting this to people and people are saying, Oh,
they'd be so fantastic that my son, who never got
to meet my dad grandpa, could have an interaction with him.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Are people doing that feeling?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
No, No, that the interactive part is the bizarre and
demonic part. To me, excuse me, if you could I mean,
if you could have like a super realistic based on
their actual voice from videos, that sort of thing, because
that's what this does. Like my mom, who I missed
very much, if I could have her this is coming
(08:42):
together in my mind in real time, either saying things
that she frequently said or said in the video in
a rapidly accessible form. I suppose I could put a
video clip on my phone. I mean, just like to
have my mom with my mom's voice saying what she
used to say that I could see, instead of just
(09:05):
to still photograph in a readily accessible form. That would
be kind of nice, But no, I don't want it
pretending to wonder how my day went.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, this is an extreme Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I didn't think that people would get into relationships with chatbots,
and a lot more people are doing it than I realized.
So maybe that crowd would be happier in heck to
have fake grandma pretending to care about near unborn child.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Okay, so I'm there at the two Way brain Trust
meeting and our zombie Gramma thing just didn't sell.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Here's my next concept.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Historical figures carefully crafted based on all their writing and speaking,
everything that's known about them, how their voice was described contemporaneously,
Washington would probably have a fairly regal British accent, somewhat
softened to buy his time here in the colonies, that
(10:05):
sort of thing. Talk to Abe Lincoln. That would be
interesting that.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I would do.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That is very very cool, But that's a completely different thing.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Then agreed.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, yeah, Look, we poured all this money into a
zombie Grandma go. We gotta come up with something to
make some profits. So I'm going with the uh living Lincoln.
We're gonna call it.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I wish my grandma was still alive so she could
watch the kids so I can go to this concert tonight.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Wait, now you can.
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Speaker 3 (11:34):
One thing I've been saying for years to people about
this job is it made me realize there's way more
crazy people than you think there are. So if you
live kind of a regular life and you bump up
with against mostly regular people your entire life, you have
a certain concept of what people are like. And then
(11:56):
doing this job. Used to just be letters, was email,
now email and text and now social media reinteraction with
the show, there are way more crazy people than you
ever thought because you don't run into them out there
in the real world. So and or irrational. Yeah, crazy,
(12:17):
I'm using a very vague vert. Crazy people that are
way different than you are. Like, way different than you are.
There's a lot more of them than you think, and
so I need to keep that in mind. With the
percentage of people that might fall in love with chatbots
or want ai grandma to talk to their kid or
give them comforting advice or about life or whatever. It
(12:39):
might be way more of them than I think, way more.
And what percentage would you need to have before it
kind of up in society? If five percent of society
is doing only on robot grandma's and robot relationships, what
does that do to things? I don't know?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Is this some sort of Darwinian thinning of the herd? Wow?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I say most people are not going to reproduce? Just
clicked in my head.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah that's an interesting thought and maybe maybe a net positive.
We don't agree not but maybe yeah, they can't reproduce.
They won't certainly let me ask.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
My robot Lincoln. Well, in my opinion for score.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
So much fun checking out with the stock market that
went way down yesterday, down pretty decent today.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
What's it all about? Is the big question?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Lots of other stuff talk about stay here, California're going
to be the first state to with a billionaire's penalty
at least that's going to be a prop that we
vote on soon.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Stay tuned for details on that.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
And speaking of big money, fourteen arrested in New Jersey
yesterday on a new in a new sports betting scandal,
so stay tuned for those details. They are literally flying
off the shelves at the Armstrong You Getty superstore, the
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(14:06):
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Or if you prefer your emphasis on entire ruin the
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Speaker 3 (14:20):
Uh, And that's flying off the shelves. It's like one
of the hottest items we've ever had in our store.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
What I loved, I can't.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I can't wait to wear mine. I cannot wait. So this,
I'm gonna be like a little kid with a Superman
a costume. I'm gonna wear it to sleep, I'm gonna
wear when I get up in the morning. I'm gonna
cry when I have to take it off to take
a shower.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
To Gavin Newsom's credit, which I rarely say, he actually
opposes this new Union backed ballot measure aimed at billionaires.
I think it's because he's running for president, although the
Elizabeth Warren AOC Bernie Sanders wing might come after him
(15:02):
for opposing this. But anyway, here's the idea behind it.
This ballot initiative, proposed by healthcare workers unions, would take
aim at the richest people in the richest state with
a one time five percent tax on net worth over
a billion dollars. This would mean pursuing assets like stocks, artwork,
(15:23):
intellectual property in addition to income and everything else. It's
just you are super rich. You're super rich to have
a bunch of stuff, so we're going to take five percent.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Of it intellectual property, so like a patent or the hell.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
It almost seems like it's designed to make whoever hasn't
gone to Texas yet, like Elon Musk leave California to
get Zuckerberg and is Altman already in Texas? Who all
your big players Google whoever? To force them to leave
the state.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I think you would see a mass exodus of the
biggest names in tech.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, this proposal represents am reading from the Wall Street Journal,
this proposal represents an unprecedented effort to tax modern wealth
now they need eight turned to seventy five thousand signatures.
But I've seen crazier things happen in the thirty years
that I've been in California. I never thought we'd get
driver's licenses for illegals. Was laughable in the beginning, then
became just a thing. So maybe taxing billionaires for the
(16:31):
fact that they've accumulated that much wealth and driving them
out of the state will become a thing too. In
terms of billionaires by state, California is way the leader.
California has an estimated two hundred and fifty five billionaires,
more than any other state and almost a quarter of
the US total. Let's take their stuff, Let's take their money,
(16:52):
because how dare they? How dare they right?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
How they dare they come up with something that everybody wants?
We'll punish them for that.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
What a weird way to look at the world that,
by definition, because they're billionaires, they deserve to give us
more money, and they've probably done something wrong to get
that money, because there's no way you become a billionaire
playing chair.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yeah yeah, Well, if you see the entire world through
the lens of victim and an oppressor, and everybody is
one or the other. It's easy to figure out what
a billionaire would be. By the way, this is a
wasted breath, But a reasonable value added tax would take
care of virtually every objection in the left, right, and
center to the tax code where expenditures are taxed, period,
(17:42):
because I know what they're driving at the wealthy. They
borrow against the value of their stocks and they spend
that money and they don't have to enlist it as income.
Blah blah blah. Value add attacks would solve that. But again,
wasted breath. It'll never happen because our tax code exists
to a engineer society to some extent, and b handout
favors to the powerful.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Affordability is the word of the day, word of the week,
word of the month, maybe the word of the next
several years. We can talk about that among other things
coming up.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Armstrong and getty. Things are getting better.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
As a presidential signature reopened the government, the president's mind
jumped to the midterms.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
When we come up to midterms and other things, don't
forget what they've done.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
To our country.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Vice President Vance is rolling out the latest messaging on affordability,
tying high prices two high rates of illegal immigration.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
A lot of young people are saying housing is way
too expensive.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Why is that because we flooded the.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
Country with thirty million illegal immigrants who were taking houses
that ought by right go to American citizens.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I think the tying illegal immigration to rents and housing
prices is a bit of a stretch. And one of
the reasons I think that is it's a brand new
argument that just landed all of us sudden after getting
killed in the elections last Tuesday around the issue of affordability,
and everybody's talking about it, and it's such a clear
win if you can make it seem like illegal immigration
(19:12):
cause it well, that's something we're good at and it
wasn't our fault.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Well and as a couple of immigration hawks ourselves, it's
not a non factor in housing. But to go there
first is just silly. Certainly a brand new argument. Yeah,
I don't remember ever saying that before. I've heard that
in urban areas, you know, drives up the rents and
that sort of thing. But yeah, to say that that's
the number one reason is just silly.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I just mean out of the Trump White House, I
don't remember ever hearing them use that as the reason
it seems like a brand new argument that they've rolled about,
which is politically maybe clever. This whole concept of a
national conversation. You hear this sometimes when people say we
need to have a national conversation about we need to
have a conversation in this country about race or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
It is quite understood what it is. But I guess
it's just.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
The chattering going on in the air right or on
your computer and articles here and there, and what podcasts
are saying, and what radio talk show hosts like us
are saying, and whatever people are saying. I guess that's
what a national conversation is. And I think it's definitely
a good thing. If we're going to have a national
(20:22):
conversation about affordability, just all the way around and make
that the number one topic. I think that's a damn
good idea because things are really expensive, and I don't
know what the prescription is for fixing this. I think
acknowledging the fact that it's true, since whoever's in power
has a great motivation to pretend it's not true. Joe
(20:42):
Biden claiming that inflation, no, there is no inflation. Okay,
there is, but it won't be here long are things
are actually great out there?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
And when they weren't.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
And then Donald Trump the other day saying, you know,
I'm not we have the best economy in the world
and I'm not getting credit for it. Well, at least
prior to yes, we were setting records every day on
the stock market. But that doesn't make any difference when
you go to the grocery store, you go to Denny's
like I did last Saturday night with my kids, and
it's sixty five dollars for us to eat at Denny's.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I mean, what the hell we Oh?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, affluent people are going around saying, my god, everything's
so expensive in the base of the MAGA base, it's
you know, maybe not panic might overstate.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
It, but it's not too many steps below panic. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
So brought up insurance because somebody had mentioned in an email.
Everybody talks about eggs and coffee and rent, but nobody
talks about car.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Insurance and homeowners insurance. Just incredible.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Those are things you need to have if you need to.
If you own a home, you have DEVID car insurance.
For instance. We got a couple of texts. This is
from somebody in Carson City. Thanks for listening to us
on the Reno station. Probably their nineteen year old son
just passed the driver's test, and he said, that's a
whole other story. While kids are getting their driver's licenses
so much later. I know that's more and more common now.
(22:03):
But man, I got my driver's license. Well I got
it at fourteen, but in Kansas at the time. But
there's no way I would have waited until I was
nineteen to get my driver's license.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I would have endured a whipping every day for six
weeks if it got me my driver's license, right, No
gidding sixteen anyway.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Talking about the car insurance for their kid five sixty
a month or for six months, it's three three hundred
and sixty dollars for a nineteen year old to have
car insurance on the car.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
That they got him. Great Scott, five sixty a month.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I mean most of us, going back in the day,
if you were gonna buy a car and make car payments,
you just thought about the car payment. You didn't think
about the insurance because it was gonna be something, but
you didn't really need it wasn't enough to really factor in.
Now you have to look at it like the beck,
like the car payment. It might be more than the
car payment.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
You've got to just strip everything down to liability and
like ensuring the other driver and if you plow into
them or whatever, because that's just that's not it's a
non starter.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, here's another example.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I have a twenty twelve Honda Fit and I pay
one to eighty seven a month for the bare minimum
insurance to let me get almost two hundred dollars a
month for a probably paid off, thirteen year old small car.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So yeah, when it comes to affordability, I don't know
what can be done about homeowner's insurance and car insurance.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You know, I don't even want to say this out loud.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I'm a renter. Currently, renders insurance is still ridiculously cheap.
Oh yeah, why renders insurance so freaking cheap?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's just your stuff, it's not the structure, I guess.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, your your evil clutching landlord has to pay that,
although it's in your rent, as anybody with any economic
sense understands.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah. Yeah, hey, getting back, you know, i'd like to.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Take talk more about car insurance and homeowners insurance, but
they're kind of different beasts and a lot of complexity.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
There, a lot of layers of regulation.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Oh sure, they're different beasts, but they are left out
of the conversation. You know, Like I said earlier, eggs
schmegs quit talking about the price I eggs my car
insurance is killing me.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'll eat oatmeal, but I got to insure my car.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, agreed, completely, Getting back to our previous topic, which
doesn't matter, doesn't need to be reset. But folks within
MAGA or certainly the Republican Party of the Republican base
being unhappy with the president and vocally so it's definitely
on the increase. Whether it's the Epstein thing, which we
(24:42):
were going to circle back to, not to discuss at
their length, but we got the inevitable couple of emails
and texts from people who are just really unhappy with us.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I'm looking at CBS News. They're interviewing Marjorie Taylor Green
right now. She's on there talking about the Epstein files,
and she's hardcore. These things need to be released and
it's the big story on CBS right now.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, she's also.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Hardcore denouncing the reason aide to Argentina.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
But she's as meg as you can get or I
don't even know what that means anymore. Has Megan now?
Has Magan now become a thing separate from Trump?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I guess is the question that is the question? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Absolutely, Trump says no, I invented it, So what I
say goes uh uh that it's mostly true but not entirely.
But MGT is a MTG is also a hardcore on
what was the other one, oh, extending the Obamacare something
of all horrific things. Something we're going to get into
during our three of the show, so to stay tuned.
But then they name checking the Washington Post and it's
(25:41):
pretty even handed article. It's not like liberal journalism that
there's definitely more open criticism. You're Thomas Massey's your Marjorie
Taylor Green's Trump upset a lot of people when he
was pushing for more h one B visus the other
day saying we don't have enough talented people in the country,
we need to import workers. That caused at least a
(26:01):
mini flap where this goes. Nobody knows events, dear boy, events.
As the old English statesman, I once said.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I forget who I was watching last night, somebody else
who was more MAGA than Trump in our government, and thinking,
if it's kind of like AI, you know, inventing AI.
You could be the researcher that invented AI. But then
it goes off on its own, the alignment problem, and
it's really its own thing now and you're not in charge.
(26:29):
I wonder if MAGA is going to be like that
as a movement. Trump invented and everything, and he had
control over for qua a while, but now it's kind
of off on, off on off, on its own, and
it's going to do its own thing, and you're, you know,
be out of office in three years and it'll be
whatever it's going to be.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Right, Well, the heck, the history of political movements is
often the guy who led the charge ends up on
the gallows or separated from his noggin or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
That's why you kill all your rivals in that sort
of system.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
But uh, don't forget, MAGA was my idea, Trump told
Laura Ingraham the other day, Laura Ingram, MAGO is nobody
else's idea. I know what MAGA wants better than anybody else.
Same day, I guess it was the next day he
called the Jeffrey Epstein hoax a distraction pushed by Democrats
and said that only a very bad or stupid Republican
(27:16):
would fall into that trap. You know, Trump could shoot
somebody on Fifth Avenue and get away with it with
a lot of his base, But I don't think it
can call him stupid and get away with it.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
We did get a text about the Epstein files that
fits in with the several we've done. Every time you
attempt to sweep the Epstein files under the rug or
minimize the story, and more information implicating Trump comes out,
you two just look like fools covering up for the
actions of a pedophile, or at least a close buddy
of a convicted pedophile.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
You know that's funny. That doesn't bother me at all.
That's just factually incorrect. I've gone through everything that's been
really so far, and it is a nothing burger with
air fries.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
It's just nothing.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
On the other hand, we get emails like the one
from Ben in Texas, who I'll summarize the first time
I have been disgusted by your take on something. I
can't even imagine being one of the many Epstein survivors
who publicly come out and said there are other rich
and powerful abusers who have been named in police and
FBI reports that for some reason, have faced zero consequences.
(28:22):
We would like that to change, only to hear radio
hosts called her please dumb and a nothing burger. No,
if survivors are actually saying that we have and never
would call that dumb and a nothing burger, it's the
greater scandal and the call by hypocritic politicians, hypocritical politicians
to release the files that they've had in their possessions
for years and years, that is fake And on the
(28:46):
substance of your note, Ben and I don't mind you
being upset and disagreeing this fine, We can absolutely still
be friends. I don't think people fully realize how awful
it would be if every person named in every investigation
the authorities.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Came out and said it publicly.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
So there's very little evidence you did anything bad, or
practically none, but you were named in the investigation. Maybe
there's some evidence that you may have been up to
something bad, but there's nothing close to prosecutable levels of
information to have the FBI come out and name you know,
Jack Armstrong and Katie Green as part of a sex
(29:33):
trafficking investigation, when in fact you were cleared or or
they just you know, there's no evidence really to look
further around.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You were never going to be charged with anything, right,
that would be horrific.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Well, as you've been putting up from the beginning of
the Epstein story, what are we talking about here? So
are we talking about I'll just use some names that
have been floated out there, Bill Gates, Adam Dershowitz, Ahud Barack,
former Prime Minister of Israel. Were they knowingly having sex
with underage women and got away with it? If they
(30:07):
were and you could prove it, then you ought to
go after him. But are you talking about the and
I think a lot of you are, because I know
some of you. Are you talking about the giant child
pedal ring that all of Hollywood is involved in and
Michelle Obama and the Clintons and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
None of that happened or is happening. That doesn't exist.
And if that's what you're talking about, and I know
a lot of you are, we're not covering up anything
because that's fake.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That is completely phony. So it's not a real thing.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Final word to Ben in Texas. Ben, you made it
perfectly clear you don't believe what Jack was talking about.
So you're not in that group. If there are people
so wealthy and powerful that the authorities dare not charge
them with statutory rape, for instance, our sex trafficking, but
(31:05):
there's mountains of evidence against them, I would agree one
hundred percent with you that we need to get to
the bottom of that and it must come out one
way or another. But both parties have had a good
solid shot at the information for a long time and
the opportunity to bring down each other's you know, sacred cows,
and they haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah. I was watching MSNBC last night.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
They the focus of their our News program was the
Epstein thing, and they had a panel of people on there,
including our friend David Drucker who's now with The Dispatch,
and he kind of threw cold water on their conversation
when he said, you know, a lot of these emails
that they mentioned Trump, and it's kind of exciting to
(31:49):
see Trump's name and everything, but he said, nothing implicates
him in anything at all yet. So and yeah, we're
pretty far down the road of this. Lots of lots
of emails and details and information and still nothing.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Close, not even a concrete leak right right, which just
tells me there's nothing there.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Although Ben, we certainly could be wrong.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It's funny that you should bring up the Trump involvement,
which I've kind of almost forgotten about as we were.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Talking about the others.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Just another one of these six to eight different versions
of the Epstein thing that people are coming at this
with that point of view.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Well for the left, which again MSNBC, this is their
lead story all week long. It's all about Trump's involvement
and there's just nothing there. Have fun, yea, Rachel, Have fun, Rachel. Okay,
we got more on the way. Stay here.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Lift off for a massive Blue Origin rocket, the company's
new Glen rocket now making its way to Mars with
a pair of NASA spacecraft.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
The rocket's mission to.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Mars is the first major test for the space company,
owned by Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It also marked a big win for Blue Origins.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
Rocket booster landed safely back on Earth, a feat only
achieved by Elon Musk's SpaceX.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I hope they get to Mars in my lifetime and get,
you know, great footage coming out of there, and learn
all kinds of stuff fascinating.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Katy Perry will be missed on Earth. However, I assume
she's on that rocket ships.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Tell us if she's in the Blue Origins leading astronauts
she's not, she should be Yes, shoot her. I've been
saying that for a long time.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
So just a real quickly, College sports rocked by mafia
led gambling scandal fourteen charged and of course.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
New Jersey forget about it.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
College wrestlers, two former ructors, university wrestlers, and a newly
certified NBA agent Wrestling individuals charge.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Who's betting on college wrestling betters?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
In short, let's see the charges are the usual two
million dollar online sports betting operation. One alleged lou Casey
Mob family soldier Joseph Lull Joe perna is acting as
a acted as a financier supporting the operation with a
couple of his sons.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Forget about it, you put him in a fireman's carry
in the third period. I'm gonna bet on a headlock
and that'll cause me to win or something.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
You're gonna get him down, but then you're gonna get
let him get up, and then you're gonna get him
down again. If I could, I would. We are going
to hear about this sort of thing so routinely. It's
like the you know, the the police blotterer in your
local paper back in the day, you know, a fender bender.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I have a feeling, isn't betting on college wrestling? Kind
of like if you're a drinker and you're in the
cabinet drinking vanilla extract? I mean, aren't you to the
point where you ought to realize you got a problem?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yummy yummy good stuff. Actually they don't make clear that
it's about wrestling. It was a couple of former wrests
who are charged offshore sites, etcetera. Et Sara, Yeah, okay, ah,
right again, we're gonna hear about this all the time. Oh,
speaking of the business pages, mention this at the very
(35:14):
very end of yesterday's show, And the more I read,
the more interesting it becomes. Who pays when AI is wrong?
And they tell a story of this solar contractor in Minnesota,
Wolf River Electric. They started to lose all sorts of business,
and they started calling clients and saying, hey, why did
you cancel? We've had a great relationship. Bap bah bah,
And they said, well, you know, you've been sued by
(35:35):
the government for deceptive sales practices, and the Wolf River
guys are like waw ai, completely.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Made it up.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
They think maybe based on a video game that has
a location near called Wolf River, or the game is
called Wolf River.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
It does need to be for any reason. Sometimes it
makes stuff up out of thin.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Air, right, And they go into a bunch of different
examples of this, And part of the problem them with
slander laws is that there has.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
To be intent.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, we need to merely be wrong. This could end
the whole AI thing, depending on the court rulings, might
be the end of AI. I'm sorry, we got to cancel.
AI can't happen because of this.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Next hour plus the Republican Party needs to figure out
healthcare or it should fold up its big tent and
go away all next hour.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
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