September 3, 2024 • 8 mins
Could Jack's interest in Artificial Intelligence lead to the extinction of all humans?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
George Washington wasn't Mexican. It's one more thing. I'm strong
and getty, one more thing. So I have said, I've
threatened for many times, so it probably won't get around.
I'll get around to it about the same time I
use my elliptical machine. But I really want to dabble
in some of the AI stuff that all a lot
(00:21):
of you have been using for a long time, the
chat GPT and a sort of stuff. I've never done it,
and it's the future and I don't want to like
be left completely far behind on everything that everybody's doing.
And I just sounds really interesting to me. That's one
of the reasons I'm probably going to upgrade to the
iPhone sixteen when it comes out, is that it's going
to have chat GPT right on there, and I think
then I would actually use it. And Apple is also
(00:42):
unveiling their own version of AI. I think it's kind
of interesting that they have spent the gazillions of dollars
to try to compete in that arena and they're going
to release it at the same time that they allow
chat GPT to be on the phone. Kind of a
weird thing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Like, Yeah, I needed to know the pix. It seems
odd and confusing.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember a time when
somebody introduces a competitor that way or but anyway, I
want to start looking into this sort of stuff. And
so the new iPhone comes out in a couple of
weeks and I'll probably get that and I'll let you
know how it goes. Google. You remember when Google released
their Gemini chatbot and it couldn't come up with white
(01:27):
people of any kind. It when asked to depict the
US Founding fathers and Catholic popes, for example, it either
depicted women or women of color or men of color,
but never any white males, even though all the popes
have been white males and the Founding Fathers were all
white males.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Likewise, German soldiers from World War Two, which was famously
not a very diverse bunch, right, It was kind of
the whole deal. And it's really quite something that Google spent.
I was this New York Times article would have the
amount of money they've spent so far, but.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's a ton. I mean, they've gone in bigger than
anybody thinking. That kind of like the way Google is.
If you become the biggest and the best you can
print money for a very very long time. And if
they can become the Kleenex or Xerox, if you know
that reference of AI, that's where all the money is.
So they've invested a lot of money. And their first
(02:25):
shot at it was give me a picture of George
Washington and you have a brown lady. I mean, what
the hell? It's fairly basic.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, and it really betrays the impurity of the input,
if you will, how activist they are there, As The
New York Times says, besides, that was I'm sorry. That
was not a sin of omission. That was not a whoops,
we messed up that. We tried very very hard to
tip the scales and the whoops, we went too far?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right, Yeah, I'll just read the headline from the New
York Times article. Google says it fixed its image generator
that failed to depict white people. The company will allow
users of its chatbot to create images of people with
artificial intelligence after disabling the feature six months ago. So
what they did, after spending unimaginable amounts of money, they
had to turn the thing off like the next day.
(03:17):
Ah do's shelve that for a little while that's really
quite extraordinary. And you'll remember Elon Musk, because we read this,
had said there, this is such a deep problem to
have spent all that money and you can't come up
with a white pope or a white founding fathers. A
sign of rots so deep you need to blow up
the entire team. That's what Elon Musk said. Who knows
(03:40):
something of what he's talking about with these things. That
was what I said, but he said it better. Weeks
after Gemini was launched, users notice it would not show
white individuals. Besides sparking controversy, the revelation eroded confidence in
Google's ability to manage artificial intelligence capabilities. I'd say it
might be one of the most expensive mistakes in all history.
(04:02):
At the end of the day, it really could be.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I already was contemptuous of Google corporate, and that just absolutely,
you know, energized my contempt.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
But I know some people in the world of AI
and that Google had been sitting on the sideline while
Open AI, Chat, GPT, Microsoft a number of others had
come out and they had sat on the sideline with
the idea, we're going to get it right, and then
when we launched, we're going to land so hard and
so big. We're going to be the Google of search engines,
(04:35):
if you know what I mean. We're going to be
the We're going to be the thing. And that was
what happened day one.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Well, Joe, you brought us an article not too long
ago for one more another, one more thing we did
where it went through all the different categories of AI
and JEM and I was like rated last in all
of them, not just Image Generation.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Quite a few of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah. The fact that they spent more money waited on
the sidelines at the you know, you know, at the
deficit of letting other people get a head start on
them because we're gonna get it right, and then landed
with that is just stunning.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It brings me some weird joy it does.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm chuckling gleefully.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's like, if you got a soft drink and the
cocin PEPSI are out there, we gotta get it out. No,
we're gonna wait, let people enjoy their coke and PEPSI,
wait till they wait until they enjoyed jack soda, and
then you final land Valt having spent nine trillion dollars
and somebody opens a bottle and there's a dead mouse
in there. Google bubbles, you're.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Gonna love this. Well if it was a robot, No,
we're gonna We're gonna hold back to Google robot until
it's good and ready. Finally we're ready, they unleash it.
It kills a bunch of school children before it bursts
into flames. It could not have been worse. Well.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, the company also stumbled, says The New York Times,
with the initial launch of its chatbot Bard, which got
all kinds of facts wrong in its first public outing.
I mean it's displayed to the media. It didn't work.
The Bard gap was an embarrassing moment just as the
AI boom was starting to take off. So Google's back
out today with their Gemini thing. So I'm sure tons
(06:06):
of people will be testing out, trying to make it
be racist and sexist. Some people would call that reverse racist,
reverse sexist, but that's dumb. But if it's not fixed,
we'll know by the end of the day because it's
out there now. That's one of the seriously, one of
(06:26):
the biggest mistake launches in history, and in terms of
money spent, it might be the biggest.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well yeah, because and I think we may have discussed
this at the time when the previous go to marketing
day backle occurred New Coke. They wasted a hell of
a lot of time and money on that, but nobody thought,
you know, coke is evil in general.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm not gonna drink it, right, and diet coke. I
wouldn't throw that in your eyes.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
No, they just went back to the old product, which
was the same product, and they liked it very much. Google,
their whole thing has been impugned.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They were exposed. That is stunning.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
In fact, yeah, it's more like the mouse in Google Bubbles,
which I have charmingly named their new soft drink. It's
more like the mouse of your imagining than the new Coke.
It just shows that they have no standards, or at
least no standards I appreciate for quality.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Well, I'm like I said, I'm sure we will know
soon because there's gonna be a lot of people out
there testing it. Whether you're just a tech writer and
want to see how good it is, or if you're
a you hate Google like we do and you want
to out it as being still so woke. They can't
get the damn thing right.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm telling you We are in a cold war against woke,
and everybody needs to know it. The New York Everyone
knows it. Well, everyone needs to know it.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The New York Times ended today's article with the company
reminded users that even with improvements, it's technology would make errors.
Of course, not every image Gemini creates will be perfect,
Google says in their release, but we'll continue to listen
to feedback from early Access Gemini Advanced users as we
keep improving.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Again, it's not like it's a little too sweet for
me or a little fewer bubbles. No, there's a mouse
in the coke. It's not even close. And I mean
that's that's where you were. George Washington's a black woman. Okay,
you're not even close or heey.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Washingtonz the father, the padre of our country. Muh muh no,
not buying it, Google, Well, I guess that's it.
George Washington wasn't Mexican. It's one more thing. I'm strong
and getty, one more thing. So I have said, I've
threatened for many times, so it probably won't get around.
I'll get around to it about the same time I
use my elliptical machine. But I really want to dabble
in some of the AI stuff that all a lot
(00:21):
of you have been using for a long time, the
chat GPT and a sort of stuff. I've never done it,
and it's the future and I don't want to like
be left completely far behind on everything that everybody's doing.
And I just sounds really interesting to me. That's one
of the reasons I'm probably going to upgrade to the
iPhone sixteen when it comes out, is that it's going
to have chat GPT right on there, and I think
then I would actually use it. And Apple is also
(00:42):
unveiling their own version of AI. I think it's kind
of interesting that they have spent the gazillions of dollars
to try to compete in that arena and they're going
to release it at the same time that they allow
chat GPT to be on the phone. Kind of a
weird thing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Like, Yeah, I needed to know the pix. It seems
odd and confusing.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember a time when
somebody introduces a competitor that way or but anyway, I
want to start looking into this sort of stuff. And
so the new iPhone comes out in a couple of
weeks and I'll probably get that and I'll let you
know how it goes. Google. You remember when Google released
their Gemini chatbot and it couldn't come up with white
(01:27):
people of any kind. It when asked to depict the
US Founding fathers and Catholic popes, for example, it either
depicted women or women of color or men of color,
but never any white males, even though all the popes
have been white males and the Founding Fathers were all
white males.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Likewise, German soldiers from World War Two, which was famously
not a very diverse bunch, right, It was kind of
the whole deal. And it's really quite something that Google spent.
I was this New York Times article would have the
amount of money they've spent so far, but.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's a ton. I mean, they've gone in bigger than
anybody thinking. That kind of like the way Google is.
If you become the biggest and the best you can
print money for a very very long time. And if
they can become the Kleenex or Xerox, if you know
that reference of AI, that's where all the money is.
So they've invested a lot of money. And their first
(02:25):
shot at it was give me a picture of George
Washington and you have a brown lady. I mean, what
the hell? It's fairly basic.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, and it really betrays the impurity of the input,
if you will, how activist they are there, As The
New York Times says, besides, that was I'm sorry. That
was not a sin of omission. That was not a whoops,
we messed up that. We tried very very hard to
tip the scales and the whoops, we went too far?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right, Yeah, I'll just read the headline from the New
York Times article. Google says it fixed its image generator
that failed to depict white people. The company will allow
users of its chatbot to create images of people with
artificial intelligence after disabling the feature six months ago. So
what they did, after spending unimaginable amounts of money, they
had to turn the thing off like the next day.
(03:17):
Ah do's shelve that for a little while that's really
quite extraordinary. And you'll remember Elon Musk, because we read this,
had said there, this is such a deep problem to
have spent all that money and you can't come up
with a white pope or a white founding fathers. A
sign of rots so deep you need to blow up
the entire team. That's what Elon Musk said. Who knows
(03:40):
something of what he's talking about with these things. That
was what I said, but he said it better. Weeks
after Gemini was launched, users notice it would not show
white individuals. Besides sparking controversy, the revelation eroded confidence in
Google's ability to manage artificial intelligence capabilities. I'd say it
might be one of the most expensive mistakes in all history.
(04:02):
At the end of the day, it really could be.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I already was contemptuous of Google corporate, and that just absolutely,
you know, energized my contempt.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
But I know some people in the world of AI
and that Google had been sitting on the sideline while
Open AI, Chat, GPT, Microsoft a number of others had
come out and they had sat on the sideline with
the idea, we're going to get it right, and then
when we launched, we're going to land so hard and
so big. We're going to be the Google of search engines,
(04:35):
if you know what I mean. We're going to be
the We're going to be the thing. And that was
what happened day one.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Well, Joe, you brought us an article not too long
ago for one more another, one more thing we did
where it went through all the different categories of AI
and JEM and I was like rated last in all
of them, not just Image Generation.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Quite a few of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah. The fact that they spent more money waited on
the sidelines at the you know, you know, at the
deficit of letting other people get a head start on
them because we're gonna get it right, and then landed
with that is just stunning.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It brings me some weird joy it does.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm chuckling gleefully.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's like, if you got a soft drink and the
cocin PEPSI are out there, we gotta get it out. No,
we're gonna wait, let people enjoy their coke and PEPSI,
wait till they wait until they enjoyed jack soda, and
then you final land Valt having spent nine trillion dollars
and somebody opens a bottle and there's a dead mouse
in there. Google bubbles, you're.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Gonna love this. Well if it was a robot, No,
we're gonna We're gonna hold back to Google robot until
it's good and ready. Finally we're ready, they unleash it.
It kills a bunch of school children before it bursts
into flames. It could not have been worse. Well.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, the company also stumbled, says The New York Times,
with the initial launch of its chatbot Bard, which got
all kinds of facts wrong in its first public outing.
I mean it's displayed to the media. It didn't work.
The Bard gap was an embarrassing moment just as the
AI boom was starting to take off. So Google's back
out today with their Gemini thing. So I'm sure tons
(06:06):
of people will be testing out, trying to make it
be racist and sexist. Some people would call that reverse racist,
reverse sexist, but that's dumb. But if it's not fixed,
we'll know by the end of the day because it's
out there now. That's one of the seriously, one of
(06:26):
the biggest mistake launches in history, and in terms of
money spent, it might be the biggest.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well yeah, because and I think we may have discussed
this at the time when the previous go to marketing
day backle occurred New Coke. They wasted a hell of
a lot of time and money on that, but nobody thought,
you know, coke is evil in general.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm not gonna drink it, right, and diet coke. I
wouldn't throw that in your eyes.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
No, they just went back to the old product, which
was the same product, and they liked it very much. Google,
their whole thing has been impugned.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They were exposed. That is stunning.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
In fact, yeah, it's more like the mouse in Google Bubbles,
which I have charmingly named their new soft drink. It's
more like the mouse of your imagining than the new Coke.
It just shows that they have no standards, or at
least no standards I appreciate for quality.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Well, I'm like I said, I'm sure we will know
soon because there's gonna be a lot of people out
there testing it. Whether you're just a tech writer and
want to see how good it is, or if you're
a you hate Google like we do and you want
to out it as being still so woke. They can't
get the damn thing right.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm telling you We are in a cold war against woke,
and everybody needs to know it. The New York Everyone
knows it. Well, everyone needs to know it.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The New York Times ended today's article with the company
reminded users that even with improvements, it's technology would make errors.
Of course, not every image Gemini creates will be perfect,
Google says in their release, but we'll continue to listen
to feedback from early Access Gemini Advanced users as we
keep improving.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Again, it's not like it's a little too sweet for
me or a little fewer bubbles. No, there's a mouse
in the coke. It's not even close. And I mean
that's that's where you were. George Washington's a black woman. Okay,
you're not even close or heey.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Washingtonz the father, the padre of our country. Muh muh no,
not buying it, Google, Well, I guess that's it.
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