Why Do Sequels Suck So Much?

First, a final note on the Paris Olympics.  Next, a very important question about movie sequels.  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Why do sequels suck so much?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's one more thing I'm strong, one more thing. You
know more about spring riding than I do. Maybe you
have an answer for why sequel suck. But uh, that
conversation just second. First, as we continue to wrap up
the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Oh and on the final day of the game, Serbia
be Croatia to win gold and men's water polo. But
I noticed that the goalie for Croatia had a pretty
interesting last name. Check this out well, marking old Pah
now in golf for Croatia and that's him right there.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Bach. The goalkeeper Bax shuttles things down off the post
behind Pia.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Great Josh Bis get back in there, Bach. No more goals, b.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Just I mean the NBC censor was like, what do
I do?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
What?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I don't know what to do?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I have imagine winning.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
At the Olympics, then hearing here's your metal, Bach, thank you.
His name is Marco Biac. Forget his last name. It's
crazy that his name is Marco and he plays polo.
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Michael in Serbia defeating Croatia is a little uncomfortable too.
Fans of warfare in the nineties, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
They could have changed the pronunciation just to tad to
avoid that whole problem. That's boch.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
The name's Biac, it's Biach. Biach's say the guy's name Biach.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
That got me. Some of the announcers were clearly enjoying
it too much.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Right, nice at the shop.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's some pretty childish humor right there. Oh, serious thing
before I get to my way.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Well, they're they're they're Europeans, so you can make that joke. Now,
if you make a joke about like an Asian name
like Wang, then you're eurracist and might lose your career, absolutely,
you know, crowder.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
But if it sounds like something funny and it's European
or Western civilization, right then yeah, full on.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Well, and certainly there are words in English that are
obscenities and references to poop and or genitals in other
people's language, and they have fun with that. And I
think that is funny that our word for that is
your word for that.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
And I don't for a single second think think I'm
a victim of anything.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Of course, most claim.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
A victimhood is a quest for power. It's cry bullying.
It's become very effective in the modern world.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
I once knew someone with the unfortunate name of Harry Johnson.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah. See was he a radio person?

Speaker 5 (02:59):
No not, it's an average guy.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Why wouldn't you go by Harold or your middle name?

Speaker 5 (03:03):
I always wondered why why not Harold?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
But nope, was Harry Johnson? Was he like? Did he know?
I mean, was he doing that because he kind of knew, Hey,
my name is Harry Johnson. No wicky.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
He'd get pissed when people would say his whole name.
So I don't I you know, I'm not really sure
what the whole logic was behind it. I just know
that it was funny.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
How did that affect his life? I mean, the fact
that he would get pissed means it kind of it
having stuck in his craw if you will, having h
or being named that.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
We don't know that different.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Oh, it's God's sake.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Doing great now, so seeming it wasn't too harsh on him.
But I just remember when we were.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Kids, toughened him up. The boy named Sue syndrome something
I don't.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Know, dirty eggsucking dog that named me Harry Johnson. That's
exactly right.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
All right.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Bianca's is there something else we were going to talk about.
I want to mention this. This is serious.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
We don't usually do that much serious here, but I
just saw it on the San Francisco Chronicle. Latest car
theft data is out. This is from Oakland, one of
the crimiest places in America. Data shows one vehicle per
thirty people was stolen in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
What doesn't shock me? What if I have like a
medium sized circle of friends, I know a couple of
people who've had their car stolen last year. I mean,
that seems crazy if I'm living in Oakland.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
I moved to Porto Prince because it's safer, it's less crime.
Moved to Haiti.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
That's stunning. Anyway. I started with the Whitey sequel, suck
so much, and I was my son's making his way
through all the Marvel movies as he ends summer with
a bang. School starts in a week, and he had
the First Captain of America on the other night. I
don't know if you've seen have you seen that, Katie?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
See?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
If I didn't have kids, I wouldn't have seen any
I didn't see any of these movies. Most of them
are made before my kids were born or when they
were a little little Have you seen it, Michael, No,
not at all. Most grown ups. If you don't have kids,
you're not gonna watch this stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Judy and I watched it more or less in a lark.
It seemed like some good escapist entertainment years ago. When
it first came out, I thought it was terrific, really enjoyable.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
First Captain Marvel movie is absolutely fantastic. It's like a
Captain in America. Captain America. I'm sorry, Captain Marvel's horrible.
That is a horrible movie. That's what the chick?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Oh, really bad Captain Marvel or something Marvel. It's something
miss Marvel or an adult. Can we talk about fiscal.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Any Oh please, I'm glad you said that. That's why
I they will make they will not watch a superhero
movie if the chick is the starn But just in
just on sequels in general. And I've seen this with
lots of kid movies, grown up movies, that sort of stuff.

(05:53):
Why do they take the first movie of everything is
like a good kind of rich, good human story and
then they make it like unbelievably fan like it's got
to be so let me give an example, like the
first story you got, man meets woman, falls in love,

(06:15):
they have a kid, whatever, good movie. If they make
a sequel to that, they're gonna have to decide to
be a race car team and go up against the
French in the like I mean, why is it always
like that?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Well, well, part of the problem is as you sit
down to write a like a screenplay, you're gonna come
up with a character or a few characters or whatever
you're gonna have them go through something changes people in
an interesting way that keeps people's attention, and come to
a satisfying conclusion.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Having done that.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
When you're gonna do a sequel, you say, okay, now
I got to come up with another arc of that
sort from where they are right now and strike gold again.
Because there are fifty thousand scripts written for everyone that's
produced and five thousand produced movies for everyone that's worth
a crap.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Because so the Marvel movies got worse and worse and
worse until they were just laughable, and I couldn't understand
why you wouldn't. And they do this with all different
kind of movies. When I'm not specifically talking about the
Marvel movies, but so like if you had a couple
of guy buddy cop movie. They start as like they
kind of don't like each other, and then they become
friendly and then they solve a crime and you know,
he saves his wife. Whatever. Good movie. Then the next one.

(07:26):
You liked him in the last movie, but this time
they're doing it in space, And it's always something like that.
And I don't understand why.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Like trying to reach a different audience, maybe the same.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
It weren't the last I would think you'd do more formula,
like basically do the first movie again, like Cars another
kids movie, but number two just sucked out loud.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Well, that's why the Toy Story franchise is so beloved.
Each one of those movies was the first three were fantastic.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
A good example of them not doing that. Yeah, that's
a good example of them not doing that.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, they had the framework of as the toys lives changed,
as Andy got older too. But that helped Godfather movies obviously.
But that helped that. It was a large cast of
characters and they were going through generations. But like Buddy
Coop movies, repeating the formula over and over again, that's
what was the Mel Gibson back before he was kicking

(08:21):
the Jews and Lethal Weapon. Yeah, those were, you know,
fairly similar. It was like it was practically a TV series,
but they'd come out once a year and they'd have
better production values. So that's what y'aught to do. Just
make it, make it formul like.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I always hated that as a kid, when they would
bring back Gillian's Island or the cast of Andy something.
They'd bring back the cast of some SHOWY liked, and
then this time again it would be in space or
underwater or whatever. Night Jack didn't choose the Jaws three
in the movie theater. I think I did Jaws three D.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Did you really spend money on that?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I believe I did. Yeah, I got what answer too.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
I refused to see it because I just knew it
was going to be crap. I kind of did that
with Dumb and Dumberer as well, because I love Dumb
and Dumber. The original movie made me laugh so hard
multiple times. And then I saw they were redoing it,
and I'm like, nope, yeah, this.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Time they were on the original. This time they were
race car drivers, or this time he runs for president
or something. Yeah, Well, I guess that's it.