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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast.
More what You Hear Weekday Afternoon is on the Drive.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Her parents were Hollywood insiders, Peter Bogdanovich and Polly Platt.
She started out in journalism but soon could no longer
ignore the call of her genetic legacy and became a
director in her own right, and re released the director's
cut of Sleep No More, which is out now. Antonio Bogdanovic, Welcome.
The story of this film is an involved one, isn't
(00:32):
it Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
And it's definitely inspired from my own childhood. It's a
story about two brothers and their father is an expats
in the UK, and he was a great actor, a
great Shakespearean actor at some point in his life. Right
now he's a degenerate gambler, and he's put both his
kids in a very precarious position. They have to basically
(00:55):
pickpocket and steal so they could put food on the plate,
pay the rent once in a while, and feed their
fathers drinking and gambling addiction.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I keep reading comparisons to the Shakespearean tragedy about Sleep
No More, but it looks and sounds more to me
along the lines of Dickens something Dickensonian.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It definitely is. And I love Dickens and I related
to him. Look my friends in high school. I was
definitely a troubled kid. I didn't have an idyllic childhood
by any means. You can read a lot about that
on the internet. There was ups and downs, there was
divorce of murders. So I decided I liked the other
(01:37):
side of the tracks. I was like, I relate more
to these kids. So my kids were my friends were
surfers and skaters in Santa Monica. They were petty criminals
and burglars, and so I got a first time look
at that. My house was robbed. I had the nicest house,
you know, my mother had a great house in the
(01:58):
nice area of Santa Monica. And you know, my friends
decided to drop my house and I didn't find out
for a year. So it's about that lack of trust
with criminals. It's like, oh, well, wait a minute. I
thought it was cool when you were feeling other in
other people's homes. Not that I participated that. I did
not participate, but I thought it was cool and edgy
at the time. But when you are a victim of crime,
(02:21):
it's a really different It's like it was. It was
gut wrenching because these were my close friends. Two of them,
my boyfriend and his best friend who happened to be
a mutual friend. I knew my best friend long before
I had met the boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Sleep No More is the film, and the director is
Peter Bogdanovitch's daughter and Polly Plant's daughter. Antonio Bogdanovitch is
with us, and so you can see that in that
these two brothers soon don't don't trust each other.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Exactly, and they're also parenting each other, this idea of
like there's no parent here. Sometimes you know, Becket's telling
him what to do and like you just got to
keep going and we get through this and we don't
need to go anywhere, and Samuel is like, we're stuck
in the MUDs. We got to get out of here.
And then at one point, you know, when Beckett becomes
(03:15):
trying to do some higher level criminality, you know, by
being a counterfeitter, he's like, he thought, of Bentley, we
need groceries. You know. So it's this idea of them
parent each other and also being on different sides, like
what are you doing, Like you're going to get us
in more trouble than we're already in, and you're.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Going to see some familiar faces. Rebecca Romjen is in it.
Also Thomas Brodie Sangster. He's all grown up since his
role in Love. Actually, Ashley Hamilton's son of George Hamilton,
is in at Sleep No More is the film and
Antonio Bogdanovic is is the director. It's the director's cut
that's in re release right now and out everywhere you
get your movies. What if there is a number one
(03:56):
thing that you learned about the film industry from your day?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh boss, never give up, Never give up, no matter
how many no's you get. Because that was my first film,
I have been working really hard on various projects and
various scripts son that I wrote, some that I didn't write,
to make my next film, and it's been hard. It's
been very difficult for various reasons. Timing. There's many times
(04:27):
that I wanted to quit and my father said, don't
give up, and really sticking with it. I have seen
progress as below as it.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I just wanted to say, Antonio bogdanovic Just the other
day they re ran Paper Moon on Turner Classic movies
It is one of my favorites of your father's, not
only because of the imagery, not only because of the
great acting and the great story. But he was very careful,
and I'm an old radio guy, he was very careful
to make sure to include the importance of radio in
(04:59):
that story. You always hear a radio on in the background.
They're always listening to the radio or arguing about something
that is going on in the radio.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Uh well, let me tell you something. I think the
radio is key in that movie. That's so interesting you
brought that up. And I love the radio. I listen
to the radio to this day, every day, every morning,
and I've done it since I was probably a teenager,
even in my own room. You know, we had those
you know, those high fives and you can into the radio.
(05:29):
My father listened to the radio growing up, and I
feel like, honestly, and he loved the radio. And so
it gives me a source of my imagination because if
I'm just listening to something, I have to imagine, you know,
what they're talking about, or them in the studio, like,
you know, I'm not in that world, so I kind of,
(05:51):
you know, I think it's so cool because I've never
even I think I've been to a few radio stations. Yeah,
I really appreciate that part of it. And you really
you have a window in stained character when she's sitting
there listening to radio and you know her wife Peter
looking a cigarette. It's I love that movie.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well that's what he taught me.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He used that movie. He used that movie when when
before I directed my first short film, I said, Dad,
can you give me some pointer. It's not that he
had in my whole life, but I wanted some specificity.
And he went through every lens and every shot, and
I wrote it down. I still have those two pieces
of paper, and he used paper moons and the reasons
(06:35):
why he shot the framing and why he shot this
way and that way, in various things to teach me
the basics of filmmaking.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Well, it was all about the details. And whoever said
the devil is in the details is dead wrong. That's
where God is. God is in the details, as far
as I'm concerned. And I too, was attracted to radio
because of the storytelling aspect of it. I listened to
radio drama and there was an old one on CBS
back in the day. It was a mystery theater. They
(07:04):
ran late at night on the CBS radio network, and
I was about five listening to that, and my imagination
was inspired. Later when I started reading it started helping
me become a better reader, to try to picture it
like I was presenting a radio show. So again, I
think it all comes down to those details, and I
look forward to the details in Sleep No More Director's
(07:26):
cut out Now, I thank you for joining us, Antonio Bandanovich,
thank you so.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Much for having me. I really enjoyed speaking with you.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee
Matthews Podcast, and remember to listen to The Drive Live
weekday afternoons from five to seven. And iHeartMedia presentation.
This is Later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast.
More what You Hear Weekday Afternoon is on the Drive.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Her parents were Hollywood insiders, Peter Bogdanovich and Polly Platt.
She started out in journalism but soon could no longer
ignore the call of her genetic legacy and became a
director in her own right, and re released the director's
cut of Sleep No More, which is out now. Antonio Bogdanovic, Welcome.
The story of this film is an involved one, isn't
(00:32):
it Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
And it's definitely inspired from my own childhood. It's a
story about two brothers and their father is an expats
in the UK, and he was a great actor, a
great Shakespearean actor at some point in his life. Right
now he's a degenerate gambler, and he's put both his
kids in a very precarious position. They have to basically
(00:55):
pickpocket and steal so they could put food on the plate,
pay the rent once in a while, and feed their
fathers drinking and gambling addiction.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I keep reading comparisons to the Shakespearean tragedy about Sleep
No More, but it looks and sounds more to me
along the lines of Dickens something Dickensonian.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It definitely is. And I love Dickens and I related
to him. Look my friends in high school. I was
definitely a troubled kid. I didn't have an idyllic childhood
by any means. You can read a lot about that
on the internet. There was ups and downs, there was
divorce of murders. So I decided I liked the other
(01:37):
side of the tracks. I was like, I relate more
to these kids. So my kids were my friends were
surfers and skaters in Santa Monica. They were petty criminals
and burglars, and so I got a first time look
at that. My house was robbed. I had the nicest house,
you know, my mother had a great house in the
(01:58):
nice area of Santa Monica. And you know, my friends
decided to drop my house and I didn't find out
for a year. So it's about that lack of trust
with criminals. It's like, oh, well, wait a minute. I
thought it was cool when you were feeling other in
other people's homes. Not that I participated that. I did
not participate, but I thought it was cool and edgy
at the time. But when you are a victim of crime,
(02:21):
it's a really different It's like it was. It was
gut wrenching because these were my close friends. Two of them,
my boyfriend and his best friend who happened to be
a mutual friend. I knew my best friend long before
I had met the boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Sleep No More is the film, and the director is
Peter Bogdanovitch's daughter and Polly Plant's daughter. Antonio Bogdanovitch is
with us, and so you can see that in that
these two brothers soon don't don't trust each other.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Exactly, and they're also parenting each other, this idea of
like there's no parent here. Sometimes you know, Becket's telling
him what to do and like you just got to
keep going and we get through this and we don't
need to go anywhere, and Samuel is like, we're stuck
in the MUDs. We got to get out of here.
And then at one point, you know, when Beckett becomes
(03:15):
trying to do some higher level criminality, you know, by
being a counterfeitter, he's like, he thought, of Bentley, we
need groceries. You know. So it's this idea of them
parent each other and also being on different sides, like
what are you doing, Like you're going to get us
in more trouble than we're already in, and you're.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Going to see some familiar faces. Rebecca Romjen is in it.
Also Thomas Brodie Sangster. He's all grown up since his
role in Love. Actually, Ashley Hamilton's son of George Hamilton,
is in at Sleep No More is the film and
Antonio Bogdanovic is is the director. It's the director's cut
that's in re release right now and out everywhere you
get your movies. What if there is a number one
(03:56):
thing that you learned about the film industry from your day?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh boss, never give up, Never give up, no matter
how many no's you get. Because that was my first film,
I have been working really hard on various projects and
various scripts son that I wrote, some that I didn't write,
to make my next film, and it's been hard. It's
been very difficult for various reasons. Timing. There's many times
(04:27):
that I wanted to quit and my father said, don't
give up, and really sticking with it. I have seen
progress as below as it.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I just wanted to say, Antonio bogdanovic Just the other
day they re ran Paper Moon on Turner Classic movies
It is one of my favorites of your father's, not
only because of the imagery, not only because of the
great acting and the great story. But he was very careful,
and I'm an old radio guy, he was very careful
to make sure to include the importance of radio in
(04:59):
that story. You always hear a radio on in the background.
They're always listening to the radio or arguing about something
that is going on in the radio.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Uh well, let me tell you something. I think the
radio is key in that movie. That's so interesting you
brought that up. And I love the radio. I listen
to the radio to this day, every day, every morning,
and I've done it since I was probably a teenager,
even in my own room. You know, we had those
you know, those high fives and you can into the radio.
(05:29):
My father listened to the radio growing up, and I
feel like, honestly, and he loved the radio. And so
it gives me a source of my imagination because if
I'm just listening to something, I have to imagine, you know,
what they're talking about, or them in the studio, like,
you know, I'm not in that world, so I kind of,
(05:51):
you know, I think it's so cool because I've never
even I think I've been to a few radio stations. Yeah,
I really appreciate that part of it. And you really
you have a window in stained character when she's sitting
there listening to radio and you know her wife Peter
looking a cigarette. It's I love that movie.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well that's what he taught me.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He used that movie. He used that movie when when
before I directed my first short film, I said, Dad,
can you give me some pointer. It's not that he
had in my whole life, but I wanted some specificity.
And he went through every lens and every shot, and
I wrote it down. I still have those two pieces
of paper, and he used paper moons and the reasons
(06:35):
why he shot the framing and why he shot this
way and that way, in various things to teach me
the basics of filmmaking.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Well, it was all about the details. And whoever said
the devil is in the details is dead wrong. That's
where God is. God is in the details, as far
as I'm concerned. And I too, was attracted to radio
because of the storytelling aspect of it. I listened to
radio drama and there was an old one on CBS
back in the day. It was a mystery theater. They
(07:04):
ran late at night on the CBS radio network, and
I was about five listening to that, and my imagination
was inspired. Later when I started reading it started helping
me become a better reader, to try to picture it
like I was presenting a radio show. So again, I
think it all comes down to those details, and I
look forward to the details in Sleep No More Director's
(07:26):
cut out Now, I thank you for joining us, Antonio Bandanovich,
thank you so.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Much for having me. I really enjoyed speaking with you.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee
Matthews Podcast, and remember to listen to The Drive Live
weekday afternoons from five to seven. And iHeartMedia presentation.
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