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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Later with Lee Matthews The Lee Matthews Podcast
More what You Hear weekday afternoons on the Drive.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Mark Gravada is a retired Navy Seal best selling author
Transformative Thought Leap. Let me stop right there, Mark, I
don't know that you can ever be a retired seal,
can you? You don't retire?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, that's you got a point there.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I'm not active duty though, running around understood on but
I certainly, you know, do my part still.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, but you still are our sharpest attack I imagine
because the discipline that the Navy Seals gives you up
stays with you always, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
This is true, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And you know, in fact, that's one of the reasons
I wrote that book on comics. I want to help
people really understand how to really tap into that same
level of motivation, the same level of potential, and to
really bring out their best you know, to live their
best life and to you know, bring some power into
the world.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
But they've got to they've got to trained for it.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You know, people haven't been taught that, you know, really
to be uncommon to tap into that best potential.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It doesn't happen just automatically.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
In fact, our whole culture is kind of set up
to keep people in a really limited state, really contracted,
and so you got to take responsibility of your own development,
and that has to be done multi dimensionally, physically, mentally, emotionally, intuitionally,
and spiritually.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Those are the five sections of the.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Book, Mark Devine. The book is uncommon, simple principles for
an extraordinary life. I always try to start out the
day with at least one accomplishment mark and it started
this morning. I woke up, I was feeling kind of
overwhelmed with everything I got to do this week, everything
that's happened in the past couple of days, all of
the news that I have to cover, and I said,
you know what, I'm going to put on the headphones
(01:43):
and I'm going to go for a run, and I'm
going to run as far as I as far as
I feel, and I'm going to forget about the world
and just concentrate on the steps in front of me.
And for me, that is wonderfully therapeutic, to just forget
about the world for a while and focus on one thing.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
And then that's actually a great example of an integrated practice.
I mean, you're you're clearing your mind, You're you're focusing
on your breathing. You know, you're concentrating on that one
act and that act is a physical, mental, even an
emotionally developmental act.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
As you come out of that and you're like, wow,
you feel tremendous.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know, that's what I call winning in your mind
before you step put in the battlefield.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
D So good for you, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And is that part of the Monk warrior philosophy you
talk about? Can you get into that?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
My zen master told me one day, one lifetime, every
day is an opportunity to really you know, be uncommon, right,
but you've got to put in the work.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know you can.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
If you had gotten up and said, well maybe i'll
do that run tomorrow or later, you never would have
gotten to it. Yeah, So you know your day starts
right with the Warrior's code is your first thoughts and
first words. You take control of those and you make
sure that they're curated to be positive, to be focused
on the right things, and that your emotional state, your
mood is is positive and optimistic, so you're not dragon,
(03:02):
you know, negativity and regret into your day. So winning
in your mind. First thing in the morning is a
key you know, warrior monk attitude. And then in the
evening right to you think of it like a container.
The morning ritual is really to set you up to win.
And then you in the evening you take time again
to breathe, to reflect, and to learn from your day
and to see what went well, what didn't well, just
(03:23):
like a Navy sealed debrief and what did I learn?
And you know, when you look at this way, you
know all you have is today. Yesterday is a fantasy.
You used to say in the seals, the only easy
day was yesterday, because it's all it's a fantasy, right,
and tomorrow, tomorrow hasn't come yet, So just focus today.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What are you gonna do about today? And what are
you going to do for yourself? Right? So many people
are are focused.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
On what's going on in the world, and there's a
lot of negativity going on, but you know, focus on
yourself first.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It seems selfish, but it's actually the most selfless.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Thing to do, is to get your mind right, to
get your emotions right, and to be able to tap
that vast potential to be uncommon and then bring that
forth into the world.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Right, uncommon, simple principles for an Extraordinary life and former
ex nav former navycal entrepreneur, father and New York Times
the bestselling author Mark Devine is with us. But at
the same time, Mark, do you also need to know
when to back off, when to relax, when do okay today,
I'm going to take it easy.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Absolutely, And I think that's another key part that people
miss is that we have so biased toward action here
in the West, and action needs to be coupled with inaction.
It action doesn't mean necessarily you don't do anything, but
you get your ego out of the way and you
learn to know when to recover, when to like power down.
For instance, after every really difficult thing you do, whether
(04:44):
it's a podcast or you know, a meeting or a workout,
you should take at least five minutes maybe ten minutes
to recover, let your mind kind of digest. You know,
science is kind of finally catching up, so you need
you need time to really assimilate and to learn as
you go through your day, not you know, all at
night when you sleep and what happens. That's kind of
(05:05):
that Yin and Yong hard, the soft effort and the
surrender and that's kind of lacking, you know. The Eastern
traditions and I learned this through Zen and the martial arts.
They have this really kind of nice balance between the
hard and the soft action and inaction. And I think,
you know, if we can find that, people are gonna
have a lot more health, they're gonna have a lot
more you know, just balance in their lives.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
New York Times. The best selling author Mark Divine uncommon
Simple principles for an extraordinary life. And hopefully nobody's gonna
be shooting at you while you're doing all this, like
what you went through, and then maybe sales.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Well hopefully not, but you know what, if someone does,
you need to be ready for that too.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
We call that being sheep sheep dog strong, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
So opening up your intuitive centers as a key part
of the book.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I have a whole section on intuition.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
You know, to be able to really sense and understand
the signals from your environment, both internally and externally, is
really key. I mean that saved my life multiple times
in the seals, in my teammates as well. Yeah, So,
I mean it's it's crazy what's going on in the world,
and you know, people need to be aware and awake,
and they need to take responsibility for their own for
(06:13):
their own minds.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And that's really why I wrote the book. You know,
people to take control of.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Their lives to really move toward you know, everyone to
be part of the solution to move toward a more
positive world, not just wait for someone, you know, someone
individual character, whether it be mister Trumper or mister Biden,
even to fix it for us, because you know.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
They're not right. Everyone's world is their world.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It's our responsibility to make our world, you know, the
more beautiful world that we know it's possible.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Mark divine, uncommon, simple principles for an extraordinary life. And
you you mentioned the monk warrior attitude. I guess the
way you're describing it, it is a little like being
a monk. You're not you're not sequestering yourself per se,
but the discipline of mourning and then midday and then
after you're noon. It reminds me of morning prayer, mid
(07:03):
day work in the fields, and then afternoon vespers. So
it's a little like that, but unto yourself and customed
to what your lifestyle is.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And you know it starts with physical, the five section
of the book physical, mentally, emotional, intuitional, and spiritual, and
each one is a training because these are all aspects
of a whole person, but we've kind of like separated
and we you know, we segment ourselves in these little
parts and then you don't experience wholeness. You experience life
is like this fragmented, chaotic, you know, rushed thing.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And it's not necessary.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
So when we train ourselves to kind of come back
into that that center and that wholeness, and that's kind
of that warrior monk. It doesn't mean you're right. You
don't sequester yourself. In fact, you bring yourself into the
world more fully. You're more present, you're more aware, you're
more compassionate, and you're more positive. And those are qualities
that you know that we all strive for, but they're
found within, you know. So a big part of this
(07:58):
book is really to help you to recognize that they
can slow down in order to speed up in life.
Right leg in the Seals, we said slowest smooth, smooth
as fast.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That slowest smooth.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Pardon means you go within and you win in your
mind before you go into the battle.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And then when you hit the battle man, you are
firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Mark divine, uncommon, simple principles for an extraordinary life. Thank
you for joining us today and for your service to
our country.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Thank you, Lee, I appreciate you very munchy off.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee
Matthews Podcast, and remember to listen to The Drive Live
weekday afternoons from five to seven and iHeartMedia presentation
This is Later with Lee Matthews The Lee Matthews Podcast
More what You Hear weekday afternoons on the Drive.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Mark Gravada is a retired Navy Seal best selling author
Transformative Thought Leap. Let me stop right there, Mark, I
don't know that you can ever be a retired seal,
can you? You don't retire?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, that's you got a point there.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I'm not active duty though, running around understood on but
I certainly, you know, do my part still.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, but you still are our sharpest attack I imagine
because the discipline that the Navy Seals gives you up
stays with you always, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
This is true, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And you know, in fact, that's one of the reasons
I wrote that book on comics. I want to help
people really understand how to really tap into that same
level of motivation, the same level of potential, and to
really bring out their best you know, to live their
best life and to you know, bring some power into
the world.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
But they've got to they've got to trained for it.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You know, people haven't been taught that, you know, really
to be uncommon to tap into that best potential.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It doesn't happen just automatically.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
In fact, our whole culture is kind of set up
to keep people in a really limited state, really contracted,
and so you got to take responsibility of your own development,
and that has to be done multi dimensionally, physically, mentally, emotionally, intuitionally,
and spiritually.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Those are the five sections of the.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Book, Mark Devine. The book is uncommon, simple principles for
an extraordinary life. I always try to start out the
day with at least one accomplishment mark and it started
this morning. I woke up, I was feeling kind of
overwhelmed with everything I got to do this week, everything
that's happened in the past couple of days, all of
the news that I have to cover, and I said,
you know what, I'm going to put on the headphones
(01:43):
and I'm going to go for a run, and I'm
going to run as far as I as far as
I feel, and I'm going to forget about the world
and just concentrate on the steps in front of me.
And for me, that is wonderfully therapeutic, to just forget
about the world for a while and focus on one thing.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
And then that's actually a great example of an integrated practice.
I mean, you're you're clearing your mind, You're you're focusing
on your breathing. You know, you're concentrating on that one
act and that act is a physical, mental, even an
emotionally developmental act.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
As you come out of that and you're like, wow,
you feel tremendous.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know, that's what I call winning in your mind
before you step put in the battlefield.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
D So good for you, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And is that part of the Monk warrior philosophy you
talk about? Can you get into that?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
My zen master told me one day, one lifetime, every
day is an opportunity to really you know, be uncommon, right,
but you've got to put in the work.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know you can.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
If you had gotten up and said, well maybe i'll
do that run tomorrow or later, you never would have
gotten to it. Yeah, So you know your day starts
right with the Warrior's code is your first thoughts and
first words. You take control of those and you make
sure that they're curated to be positive, to be focused
on the right things, and that your emotional state, your
mood is is positive and optimistic, so you're not dragon,
(03:02):
you know, negativity and regret into your day. So winning
in your mind. First thing in the morning is a
key you know, warrior monk attitude. And then in the
evening right to you think of it like a container.
The morning ritual is really to set you up to win.
And then you in the evening you take time again
to breathe, to reflect, and to learn from your day
and to see what went well, what didn't well, just
(03:23):
like a Navy sealed debrief and what did I learn?
And you know, when you look at this way, you
know all you have is today. Yesterday is a fantasy.
You used to say in the seals, the only easy
day was yesterday, because it's all it's a fantasy, right,
and tomorrow, tomorrow hasn't come yet, So just focus today.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What are you gonna do about today? And what are
you going to do for yourself? Right? So many people
are are focused.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
On what's going on in the world, and there's a
lot of negativity going on, but you know, focus on
yourself first.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It seems selfish, but it's actually the most selfless.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Thing to do, is to get your mind right, to
get your emotions right, and to be able to tap
that vast potential to be uncommon and then bring that
forth into the world.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Right, uncommon, simple principles for an Extraordinary life and former
ex nav former navycal entrepreneur, father and New York Times
the bestselling author Mark Devine is with us. But at
the same time, Mark, do you also need to know
when to back off, when to relax, when do okay today,
I'm going to take it easy.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Absolutely, And I think that's another key part that people
miss is that we have so biased toward action here
in the West, and action needs to be coupled with inaction.
It action doesn't mean necessarily you don't do anything, but
you get your ego out of the way and you
learn to know when to recover, when to like power down.
For instance, after every really difficult thing you do, whether
(04:44):
it's a podcast or you know, a meeting or a workout,
you should take at least five minutes maybe ten minutes
to recover, let your mind kind of digest. You know,
science is kind of finally catching up, so you need
you need time to really assimilate and to learn as
you go through your day, not you know, all at
night when you sleep and what happens. That's kind of
(05:05):
that Yin and Yong hard, the soft effort and the
surrender and that's kind of lacking, you know. The Eastern
traditions and I learned this through Zen and the martial arts.
They have this really kind of nice balance between the
hard and the soft action and inaction. And I think,
you know, if we can find that, people are gonna
have a lot more health, they're gonna have a lot
more you know, just balance in their lives.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
New York Times. The best selling author Mark Divine uncommon
Simple principles for an extraordinary life. And hopefully nobody's gonna
be shooting at you while you're doing all this, like
what you went through, and then maybe sales.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Well hopefully not, but you know what, if someone does,
you need to be ready for that too.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
We call that being sheep sheep dog strong, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
So opening up your intuitive centers as a key part
of the book.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I have a whole section on intuition.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
You know, to be able to really sense and understand
the signals from your environment, both internally and externally, is
really key. I mean that saved my life multiple times
in the seals, in my teammates as well. Yeah, So,
I mean it's it's crazy what's going on in the world,
and you know, people need to be aware and awake,
and they need to take responsibility for their own for
(06:13):
their own minds.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And that's really why I wrote the book. You know,
people to take control of.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Their lives to really move toward you know, everyone to
be part of the solution to move toward a more
positive world, not just wait for someone, you know, someone
individual character, whether it be mister Trumper or mister Biden,
even to fix it for us, because you know.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
They're not right. Everyone's world is their world.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It's our responsibility to make our world, you know, the
more beautiful world that we know it's possible.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Mark divine, uncommon, simple principles for an extraordinary life. And
you you mentioned the monk warrior attitude. I guess the
way you're describing it, it is a little like being
a monk. You're not you're not sequestering yourself per se,
but the discipline of mourning and then midday and then
after you're noon. It reminds me of morning prayer, mid
(07:03):
day work in the fields, and then afternoon vespers. So
it's a little like that, but unto yourself and customed
to what your lifestyle is.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And you know it starts with physical, the five section
of the book physical, mentally, emotional, intuitional, and spiritual, and
each one is a training because these are all aspects
of a whole person, but we've kind of like separated
and we you know, we segment ourselves in these little
parts and then you don't experience wholeness. You experience life
is like this fragmented, chaotic, you know, rushed thing.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And it's not necessary.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
So when we train ourselves to kind of come back
into that that center and that wholeness, and that's kind
of that warrior monk. It doesn't mean you're right. You
don't sequester yourself. In fact, you bring yourself into the
world more fully. You're more present, you're more aware, you're
more compassionate, and you're more positive. And those are qualities
that you know that we all strive for, but they're
found within, you know. So a big part of this
(07:58):
book is really to help you to recognize that they
can slow down in order to speed up in life.
Right leg in the Seals, we said slowest smooth, smooth
as fast.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That slowest smooth.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Pardon means you go within and you win in your
mind before you go into the battle.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And then when you hit the battle man, you are
firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Mark divine, uncommon, simple principles for an extraordinary life. Thank
you for joining us today and for your service to
our country.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Thank you, Lee, I appreciate you very munchy off.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee
Matthews Podcast, and remember to listen to The Drive Live
weekday afternoons from five to seven and iHeartMedia presentation
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