591. Charlie Engle: "Change Your Relationship to Pain"

Brian Gubernick breaks down one final, powerful lesson from his recent conversation with ultra-endurance athlete Charlie Engle: change your relationship with pain.

Whether it’s running marathons, building a business, or enduring the trials of life, high performers don’t avoid pain -- they invite it. Brian unpacks what Charlie meant when he told Matt Damon, “You just have to change your relationship to pain,” and explores how that mindset separates the fragile from the formidable.

You’ll learn about:
- The Pain Paradox: why discomfort is often a sign you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be
- The Finish Line Fallacy: how your mind decides when to stop, and how to push beyond that
- Why success demands that you break the addiction to easy
 How to treat pain as your training partner, not your opponent

Plus, Brian issues a challenge: pick one hard thing you’ve been avoiding and step toward it today, not to suffer, but to sharpen. Pain isn’t punishment. It’s preparation.

If you haven’t listened to the full Charlie Engle interview, go back and hit play. It’s packed with stories and strategies that will rewire the way you think about struggle, growth, and grit.

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