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April 10, 2024 3 mins

How do you solve a murder case when you don’t know who the victim is?

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Pushkin. It all started with two federal agents who heard
a rumor.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
She mentions, well, there is this alleged murder to have
taken place.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Supposedly, this happened fifteen years prior, right before senior prom
Two teenagers, self proclaimed skinheads, drove to Philadelphia and killed
a black man. One was behind the wheel, the other
pulled the trigger. The agents wondered, could they track the
driver down and get him to talk. I'm thinking nobody

(00:56):
does that.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Nobody wants to talk to their least favorite FBI and
ATF agent in the world about a homicide they didn't commit.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
But even if they got this guy to talk, they
had a bigger problem.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
They had these details, but they didn't actually have a
body to go with it.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
How unusual was that to have someone say, hey, we
we we're pretty certain there's a murder, we have a confession.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
We just we got no body.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
That's rather unusual.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
So how do you solve a crime in reverse when
you think you know who the murderer is but have
no clue who the victim was.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
We have to do our job and we have to
find out who did they kill? If possible, how are
we going to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Their investigation leads them to a family who's also searching
for answers and for justice.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I used to watch the Unsolved Mischievy shows and I
often thought about calling because I was like, this, this
is not right. How can a person get killed and
no one knows any thing.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Fifteen years is a long time. Evidence vanishes, memories fade,
witnesses slip away. But the questions linger, is the rumor true?
Is this really something two teenagers did? And is it
still possible to unearth the truth?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I think she was trying to get answers. I feel
like she was, you know, still heartbroken. A body now
in a criminal case. The prosecution side of the story,
they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. As to
the defense side of the story, we just have to
create reasonable doubt. But we did way more than that.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Was definitely a different type of case.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
A skinhead coming to Philadelphia to kill somebody.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
A cowardly act.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
When it all boils down to it, a cowardly act.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
We didn't like the speculation the family, and I thought
that this would be good if we found these what
happened to them. Can't do nothing about it, can't bring
them back. But at least we'll find out the truth.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I'm Jake Alburn and this is Deep Cover Season four,
The Nameless Man, coming April twenty second from Pushkin Industries.
Subscribe to Pushkin Plus to hear the whole season early

(03:43):
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