January 21, 2025 • 13 mins
New York Times bestselling author Sebastion Junger (The Perfect Storm, In My Time of Dying) returns to Louisville February 2 and 3 for appearances connected to the Kentucky Author Forum. We discussed his harrowing work in war zones, wordsmithing, and his near death encounter where he communicated with his deceased father.
Did it shake him free from atheism? Maybe...but maybe not.
See Sebastian Junger at various local gatherings: a screening of his film Restrepo, dinner at the Muhammad Ali Center, and a long form interview and Q&A at the Kentucky Center on February 3.
Did it shake him free from atheism? Maybe...but maybe not.
See Sebastian Junger at various local gatherings: a screening of his film Restrepo, dinner at the Muhammad Ali Center, and a long form interview and Q&A at the Kentucky Center on February 3.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're on news radio. Wait forty whas Terry Miners here.
That's Dave Jennings in the studio of Me's Heavy Claire
from Kentucky, author form Hi Heavy, it's good to see you. Hi.
Thank you for having me. I hear you've got a
big superstar coming in here weekend after next. You're right,
best selling writer, journalist, filmmaker and author of In My
Time of Dying, How I Came face to face with
(00:21):
the idea of an after life. Sebastering Younger. Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Good to have you on Brought Up Man. You're one
of those guys I say, I got a buddy. He's
a storyteller. They want you over at Cracker Barrel to
just sit there in a rocking chair and tell stories
all day long.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Right. That's my why.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I have two little girls and I tell them stories
every night.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's how I hone my skills.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh, dude, I tried to. I tried. I got better
at that with my kids years ago, and it's just
it's a it's an acquired skill. But you are a
masterful storyteller. But you've had some experiences in your life
that are mind boggling. First off, being in the war
theater has to be so eye opening, such a separation
from civil society. What is that? Yeah, go ahead, tell
(01:12):
me what what's like in a war zone.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, you know, when I started covering wars in the
early nineties, the US wasn't at war, and so it
was always in these very foreign countries that Americans weren't
really thinking about, you know, civil wars in Afghanistan and
the nineties and Liberia and.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Serrio Leone, very very alien experiences.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And then and then I was with American soldiers in
Afghanistan and.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It was very strange to be with my own countryman
and getting.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Shot at like that was a.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Very strange experience for me and I you know, you
have to sort.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Of fight the urge to think that, oh well, war
is dramatic and the most intense thing you can ever do,
but life back home really doesn't have much meaning. You
have to fight that in instinct because it's wrong, and
you know, if you follow it, you'll never have a family,
you'll never do any of the.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Beautiful things that people do exactly. And I always wonder
how does anyone sleep. They say, well, you're away from
the front line, but still you're close enough. How the
world do you close?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Actually, actually soldiers sleep perfectly well in almost anywhere, and
I can as well. But you know they sleep because
there's guards on duty that have night vision goggles and
you know they you know, they do not they do
not nap, right, I mean, it's like, you know, very
very good at that. And that's true of the US
military and every military, every other military in the world.
(02:30):
So it's actually quite nice falling asleep on the front
line because you know, has been since you were a
child that you would fall asleep while someone was watching
over you. You know, it's actually quite a nice, secure feeling.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Interesting, So masking younger on the line with us today,
there's a special screening of the film Rastrepo, you directed,
along with the lake Tim Heatherington. We're going to run
that Sunday, February second weekend after Next of Speed Art
Museum Cinema, and then there's also a an interview and
(03:01):
a Q and A that's going to happen on February third,
that's Monday night at the Kentucky Center with Rachel Martin
leading the questioning. Because of is this the combination of
multiple elements of your career or is it about the
famous book about a near death experience.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I mean, I think they just seized the opportunity
while I was out there to play Ristropo, which came
out fifteen years ago. It's hard to imagine wow for me.
And then you know, yeah, as you said the next night,
I'm talking about my most recent book, which is called
In My Time of Dying. For all the risks that
I took overseas, the closest I came to dying was
in my own driveway. I had an undiagnosed aneurism in
(03:47):
my pancreatic artery and it ruptured out of the blue
in mid sentence and I started bleeding out into my
own abdomen. It's super rare and totally deadly, and I
managed to survive. And I'm an atheist, but on my
basically what should have been my deathbed. They managed to
save me in the hospital. But as I was dying,
(04:07):
my dead father appeared above me to sort of welcome
me to the other side. And I said to the doctor,
you got to hurry I'm being taken right now, whatever
you do, and you got to hurry it up because
I'm going and the Boat. It's a short book, but
it's an effort. It explains what happened and tries to
sort of explore what it was that I saw, because
it's a very very common experience for people who are
(04:29):
or who are dying.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Your dad was a scientist, so you are you grew
up in a scientific realm. The full title of your
book is in My Time of Dying, How I came
face to face with the idea of an afterlife? So
where are you now? Is it still just that I
don't know a concept? Or are you for reals or
you dug in?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, you know, I'm a journalist and I can't assert
something that I can't prove. And so had I been
fully convinced that there was a quote after life, the
subtitle would have been been how I came face to
face with the afterlife? Right, But I don't know for
sure that there is one. But there are certainly reasons
to wonder about life and death and reality and how
(05:11):
much we actually understand of all this. And so you know,
where I finally came down was that there are rational questions.
There are rational reasons to have questions about reality, and
if there is a post death continuation of the individual.
But we you know, we're nowhere close to proving that,
and I'm guessing we probably never will. You know, it
(05:32):
may just be in dimensions that our little human brain
is not capable of understanding.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
How did your father look in that image?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, you know, it's interesting, I say, you know, I
saw him, but it wasn't quite sight. He was I
sens his his essence above me, and he was definitely
there in a sort of physical sense above me. There
was an entity above me that was him that I
recognized as him, but not because I was looking at him.
You might recognize someone at the shopping mall right. It
(06:02):
was a different story. It was a different kind of knowing.
And when he communicated with me, it wasn't words. It
was a deeper communication that was extremely clear and very
upsetting to me. He said, you don't have to fight it.
You can come with me. I'll take care of you.
And I was I was horrified. I was like, go
with you. You're dead. I'm not going with you, Like,
why would I do that? The party's over here, you know,
(06:23):
it's like get out of here, right. But it wasn't
vision and words. It was something. It was something very
powerful that I had not experienced before, but I knew
it completely when it happened.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And then how often do you revisit this experience? Is
this a daily thing? Do you do you reflect on
this weekly? What happens?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, like any trauma, you know, it passes, it's always
sort of at the edge of your mind. A couple
of years ago I stopped thinking about it in an
upsetting ways. It was extremely traumatic thing to have happened.
It had It was far more than any of the
combat experiences that I had. For some reason. It's so
quite a while for me to sort of like recover
(07:06):
from it emotionally psychologically, and you.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Know, now it's you know, it's it's sort of sort.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Of something in my mind. It's a little bit more abstract,
and I sort of glanced my mind glances off it
once in a while. I don't really want to think
about it too deeply. It's like losing losing a loved one.
You know, you know what happened, but you don't really
want to sit on the couch and drill down on
that because you'll wind up you'll wind up having feelings
that are extremely painful. And it's the same thing with me.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Are you an atheist with an asterisk?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So I'm an atheist with questions, I'll put it that
way on an answer. You know, I didn't see God.
I saw my dead father, and the idea of it.
Afterlife and God they're really separate things that people relate
to connect them. But actually you could have a universe
it's entirely of the product of a quantum fluctuation and
(07:58):
there's actually a post at three. Or you could have
you know, a God who created the universe and decided,
you know what, no souls, no afterlife. This is all
you get, you know, so you know you don't they
don't necessarily go together.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
We're speaking of Sebastian Younger, best selling author. All Right,
I saw the movie The Perfect Storm. I'm sorry to
not read your book, but that was your concept. How
did you feel when you saw George Clooney acting out
your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, you know, I've been asked that before, and the
truth is, I'm a journalist. It was It wasn't my story,
It wasn't a novel that I wrote. It was something
that happened, and something very very devastating that happened to
this little town that I lived. In Gloucester, Massachusetts. They
lost a boat with six men a thousand miles off
shore in this huge storm.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So I was doing my doing.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
My best to understand that story and communicate it journalistically.
And then the movie people people came along, Wolfgang Peterson
and Warner Brothers came along and did their best to
translate that story sort of visually. And so, you know,
I didn't think of it as my story. We were both,
we were you know, we're both. They're just different versions
(09:04):
of the story that we had that we had access to,
and so I didn't feel particularly possessive about it. That said,
it was pretty thrilling to see this story that I
had worked on being you know, sort rendered into dialogue
and acting. And you know, I mean, you know, I
was on the side a little bit, and and it
was you know, it was I was a kid, you know,
(09:25):
I was in my thirties, and it was sort of
mind blowing to see this unfolding.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You're in your sixties now just a timeframe then.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I was sixty Yeah, I was sixty three.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I got you. But they didn't twist your your your concept,
you or your you know, your writings to make Fonsie
jump over a shark. They stuck to the story pretty.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, right, Yes they did. And you know, the one
thing that came up was, you know, generally you don't
kill off people like George Cloney and Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
In a movie, right, considered.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Bad man in Hollywood. Right, And so there was some
debate about, well do we actually have them survive? And
I said, look, these are real people. They're real families
who are grieving these men. You can't just magically have
them survive, right, And I mean if you do that,
you have to change all the names and put it
in a different town and you know, make it unrecognizable,
which is fine, but you can't keep the names and
(10:21):
the place and the events and then just have a
couple of people bob to the surf and swim ashore.
You know, like that's appalling. And so so they you know,
they took that under advisement and eventually followed my you know,
my wishes.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Okay, well, we're looking forward to having you back here
in Louisville. I know you're with the Kentucky author for
um maybe eight years ago and you're coming back or
nine years ago, Andreo, tell me a little bit about
that film.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, Tim and I were with a platoon about thirty
men and a remote outpost culver streppo in eastern Afghanistan
in the Corungle Valley. It was one of the most kinetic,
in other words, one of the most violent military basis
in the entire war effort. And you know, we were
in firefights almost every day. We got very close to
(11:07):
those guys. We were there off and on for a year,
and we just shot video the whole time. And so
we came home with this sort of like treasure video
from a platoon that we were basically incorporated into, and
we made a very very realistic, completely undidactic, apolitical film,
really a documentary, a document about what it's like to
(11:30):
be a soldier in Afghanistan. Like period end of sentence.
There's no editorial, editorializing or opinions or anything.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
This is what it's like.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And I was a ninety We thought of it as
a ninety minute deployment and so you know, you know,
if you come see it, like that's what your experience
will be, ninety minutes of being deployed in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Wow, you stayed home for family matters And Tim went back,
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I mean after we went to the Oscar. A few
weeks later, we were going to cover the Arab spring
in Libya and at the last moment I couldn't go.
He'd already he'd already left. I was going to join
him in Benghazi and the last moment I couldn't go,
and and he continued on his own to Mistrada.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And was killed.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
H So, yeah, it was a central tragedy in my life.
It was absolutely awful.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
The work that people like you do and Tim do though,
helps civilizations understand things, and so that's critically important. So
thank you for that. A hard work. The stories. We're
looking forward to getting together here at the University of Louisville,
Kentucky offered for him the weekend after next. I'll give
the tales. But Sebastian Younger great talking to you, Thanks
(12:44):
so much, my pleasure, Thank you, you bet you, Sebastian
Younger and Heavy. The event is coming up February. What
I say, the third doors open at five and the
interview starts at six pm. That's very good. In the
day before is the one where you have the screening
of Rastreppo. That's at four pm at the Speed cinema
on were the second okay, very good. Where do people
(13:06):
go for tickets? They can go go to Kentucky Performing
Arts dot org or call the box office. I know
that number. Let's say it together. Five abe two, well,
five oh two, five eight four seven seven seven seven.
We know that one. Be a great weekend. That guy
is really something. That's a that's a really amazing, great
opportunity for Louis Raising, author and filmmaker. All Right, Evie,
(13:29):
thanks so much, Thank you, Semashian younger. We're coming right
back on news radio A forty w h AS. This
report is sponsored by True grat
You're on news radio. Wait forty whas Terry Miners here.
That's Dave Jennings in the studio of Me's Heavy Claire
from Kentucky, author form Hi Heavy, it's good to see you. Hi.
Thank you for having me. I hear you've got a
big superstar coming in here weekend after next. You're right,
best selling writer, journalist, filmmaker and author of In My
Time of Dying, How I Came face to face with
(00:21):
the idea of an after life. Sebastering Younger. Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Good to have you on Brought Up Man. You're one
of those guys I say, I got a buddy. He's
a storyteller. They want you over at Cracker Barrel to
just sit there in a rocking chair and tell stories
all day long.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Right. That's my why.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I have two little girls and I tell them stories
every night.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's how I hone my skills.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh, dude, I tried to. I tried. I got better
at that with my kids years ago, and it's just
it's a it's an acquired skill. But you are a
masterful storyteller. But you've had some experiences in your life
that are mind boggling. First off, being in the war
theater has to be so eye opening, such a separation
from civil society. What is that? Yeah, go ahead, tell
(01:12):
me what what's like in a war zone.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, you know, when I started covering wars in the
early nineties, the US wasn't at war, and so it
was always in these very foreign countries that Americans weren't
really thinking about, you know, civil wars in Afghanistan and
the nineties and Liberia and.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Serrio Leone, very very alien experiences.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And then and then I was with American soldiers in
Afghanistan and.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It was very strange to be with my own countryman
and getting.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Shot at like that was a.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Very strange experience for me and I you know, you
have to sort.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Of fight the urge to think that, oh well, war
is dramatic and the most intense thing you can ever do,
but life back home really doesn't have much meaning. You
have to fight that in instinct because it's wrong, and
you know, if you follow it, you'll never have a family,
you'll never do any of the.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Beautiful things that people do exactly. And I always wonder
how does anyone sleep. They say, well, you're away from
the front line, but still you're close enough. How the
world do you close?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Actually, actually soldiers sleep perfectly well in almost anywhere, and
I can as well. But you know they sleep because
there's guards on duty that have night vision goggles and
you know they you know, they do not they do
not nap, right, I mean, it's like, you know, very
very good at that. And that's true of the US
military and every military, every other military in the world.
(02:30):
So it's actually quite nice falling asleep on the front
line because you know, has been since you were a
child that you would fall asleep while someone was watching
over you. You know, it's actually quite a nice, secure feeling.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Interesting, So masking younger on the line with us today,
there's a special screening of the film Rastrepo, you directed,
along with the lake Tim Heatherington. We're going to run
that Sunday, February second weekend after Next of Speed Art
Museum Cinema, and then there's also a an interview and
(03:01):
a Q and A that's going to happen on February third,
that's Monday night at the Kentucky Center with Rachel Martin
leading the questioning. Because of is this the combination of
multiple elements of your career or is it about the
famous book about a near death experience.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I mean, I think they just seized the opportunity
while I was out there to play Ristropo, which came
out fifteen years ago. It's hard to imagine wow for me.
And then you know, yeah, as you said the next night,
I'm talking about my most recent book, which is called
In My Time of Dying. For all the risks that
I took overseas, the closest I came to dying was
in my own driveway. I had an undiagnosed aneurism in
(03:47):
my pancreatic artery and it ruptured out of the blue
in mid sentence and I started bleeding out into my
own abdomen. It's super rare and totally deadly, and I
managed to survive. And I'm an atheist, but on my
basically what should have been my deathbed. They managed to
save me in the hospital. But as I was dying,
(04:07):
my dead father appeared above me to sort of welcome
me to the other side. And I said to the doctor,
you got to hurry I'm being taken right now, whatever
you do, and you got to hurry it up because
I'm going and the Boat. It's a short book, but
it's an effort. It explains what happened and tries to
sort of explore what it was that I saw, because
it's a very very common experience for people who are
(04:29):
or who are dying.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Your dad was a scientist, so you are you grew
up in a scientific realm. The full title of your
book is in My Time of Dying, How I came
face to face with the idea of an afterlife? So
where are you now? Is it still just that I
don't know a concept? Or are you for reals or
you dug in?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, you know, I'm a journalist and I can't assert
something that I can't prove. And so had I been
fully convinced that there was a quote after life, the
subtitle would have been been how I came face to
face with the afterlife? Right, But I don't know for
sure that there is one. But there are certainly reasons
to wonder about life and death and reality and how
(05:11):
much we actually understand of all this. And so you know,
where I finally came down was that there are rational questions.
There are rational reasons to have questions about reality, and
if there is a post death continuation of the individual.
But we you know, we're nowhere close to proving that,
and I'm guessing we probably never will. You know, it
(05:32):
may just be in dimensions that our little human brain
is not capable of understanding.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
How did your father look in that image?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, you know, it's interesting, I say, you know, I
saw him, but it wasn't quite sight. He was I
sens his his essence above me, and he was definitely
there in a sort of physical sense above me. There
was an entity above me that was him that I
recognized as him, but not because I was looking at him.
You might recognize someone at the shopping mall right. It
(06:02):
was a different story. It was a different kind of knowing.
And when he communicated with me, it wasn't words. It
was a deeper communication that was extremely clear and very
upsetting to me. He said, you don't have to fight it.
You can come with me. I'll take care of you.
And I was I was horrified. I was like, go
with you. You're dead. I'm not going with you, Like,
why would I do that? The party's over here, you know,
(06:23):
it's like get out of here, right. But it wasn't
vision and words. It was something. It was something very
powerful that I had not experienced before, but I knew
it completely when it happened.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And then how often do you revisit this experience? Is
this a daily thing? Do you do you reflect on
this weekly? What happens?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, like any trauma, you know, it passes, it's always
sort of at the edge of your mind. A couple
of years ago I stopped thinking about it in an
upsetting ways. It was extremely traumatic thing to have happened.
It had It was far more than any of the
combat experiences that I had. For some reason. It's so
quite a while for me to sort of like recover
(07:06):
from it emotionally psychologically, and you.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Know, now it's you know, it's it's sort of sort.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Of something in my mind. It's a little bit more abstract,
and I sort of glanced my mind glances off it
once in a while. I don't really want to think
about it too deeply. It's like losing losing a loved one.
You know, you know what happened, but you don't really
want to sit on the couch and drill down on
that because you'll wind up you'll wind up having feelings
that are extremely painful. And it's the same thing with me.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Are you an atheist with an asterisk?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So I'm an atheist with questions, I'll put it that
way on an answer. You know, I didn't see God.
I saw my dead father, and the idea of it.
Afterlife and God they're really separate things that people relate
to connect them. But actually you could have a universe
it's entirely of the product of a quantum fluctuation and
(07:58):
there's actually a post at three. Or you could have
you know, a God who created the universe and decided,
you know what, no souls, no afterlife. This is all
you get, you know, so you know you don't they
don't necessarily go together.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
We're speaking of Sebastian Younger, best selling author. All Right,
I saw the movie The Perfect Storm. I'm sorry to
not read your book, but that was your concept. How
did you feel when you saw George Clooney acting out
your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, you know, I've been asked that before, and the
truth is, I'm a journalist. It was It wasn't my story,
It wasn't a novel that I wrote. It was something
that happened, and something very very devastating that happened to
this little town that I lived. In Gloucester, Massachusetts. They
lost a boat with six men a thousand miles off
shore in this huge storm.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So I was doing my doing.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
My best to understand that story and communicate it journalistically.
And then the movie people people came along, Wolfgang Peterson
and Warner Brothers came along and did their best to
translate that story sort of visually. And so, you know,
I didn't think of it as my story. We were both,
we were you know, we're both. They're just different versions
(09:04):
of the story that we had that we had access to,
and so I didn't feel particularly possessive about it. That said,
it was pretty thrilling to see this story that I
had worked on being you know, sort rendered into dialogue
and acting. And you know, I mean, you know, I
was on the side a little bit, and and it
was you know, it was I was a kid, you know,
(09:25):
I was in my thirties, and it was sort of
mind blowing to see this unfolding.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You're in your sixties now just a timeframe then.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I was sixty Yeah, I was sixty three.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I got you. But they didn't twist your your your concept,
you or your you know, your writings to make Fonsie
jump over a shark. They stuck to the story pretty.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, right, Yes they did. And you know, the one
thing that came up was, you know, generally you don't
kill off people like George Cloney and Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
In a movie, right, considered.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Bad man in Hollywood. Right, And so there was some
debate about, well do we actually have them survive? And
I said, look, these are real people. They're real families
who are grieving these men. You can't just magically have
them survive, right, And I mean if you do that,
you have to change all the names and put it
in a different town and you know, make it unrecognizable,
which is fine, but you can't keep the names and
(10:21):
the place and the events and then just have a
couple of people bob to the surf and swim ashore.
You know, like that's appalling. And so so they you know,
they took that under advisement and eventually followed my you know,
my wishes.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Okay, well, we're looking forward to having you back here
in Louisville. I know you're with the Kentucky author for
um maybe eight years ago and you're coming back or
nine years ago, Andreo, tell me a little bit about
that film.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, Tim and I were with a platoon about thirty
men and a remote outpost culver streppo in eastern Afghanistan
in the Corungle Valley. It was one of the most kinetic,
in other words, one of the most violent military basis
in the entire war effort. And you know, we were
in firefights almost every day. We got very close to
(11:07):
those guys. We were there off and on for a year,
and we just shot video the whole time. And so
we came home with this sort of like treasure video
from a platoon that we were basically incorporated into, and
we made a very very realistic, completely undidactic, apolitical film,
really a documentary, a document about what it's like to
(11:30):
be a soldier in Afghanistan. Like period end of sentence.
There's no editorial, editorializing or opinions or anything.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
This is what it's like.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And I was a ninety We thought of it as
a ninety minute deployment and so you know, you know,
if you come see it, like that's what your experience
will be, ninety minutes of being deployed in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Wow, you stayed home for family matters And Tim went back,
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I mean after we went to the Oscar. A few
weeks later, we were going to cover the Arab spring
in Libya and at the last moment I couldn't go.
He'd already he'd already left. I was going to join
him in Benghazi and the last moment I couldn't go,
and and he continued on his own to Mistrada.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And was killed.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
H So, yeah, it was a central tragedy in my life.
It was absolutely awful.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
The work that people like you do and Tim do though,
helps civilizations understand things, and so that's critically important. So
thank you for that. A hard work. The stories. We're
looking forward to getting together here at the University of Louisville,
Kentucky offered for him the weekend after next. I'll give
the tales. But Sebastian Younger great talking to you, Thanks
(12:44):
so much, my pleasure, Thank you, you bet you, Sebastian
Younger and Heavy. The event is coming up February. What
I say, the third doors open at five and the
interview starts at six pm. That's very good. In the
day before is the one where you have the screening
of Rastreppo. That's at four pm at the Speed cinema
on were the second okay, very good. Where do people
(13:06):
go for tickets? They can go go to Kentucky Performing
Arts dot org or call the box office. I know
that number. Let's say it together. Five abe two, well,
five oh two, five eight four seven seven seven seven.
We know that one. Be a great weekend. That guy
is really something. That's a that's a really amazing, great
opportunity for Louis Raising, author and filmmaker. All Right, Evie,
(13:29):
thanks so much, Thank you, Semashian younger. We're coming right
back on news radio A forty w h AS. This
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