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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, just fresh off my humiliation in the reel
and in the year's segment that was planned. I'm not
good at that, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I did.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I never did. I never did music radio. Well, I
actually I did. I did very shortly, but it was
it was not like your Top forty or whatever. So
I have songs on my playlist that I don't even
know the title or the artist or the year it
came out. I just like it, so I play it
and I listened to it, and that's pretty much it.
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Oh my goodness. Leland Conway sitting in for Tony and Dwight.
They robbed a bank earlier this morning. It didn't go
well on the escape. They did get a lot of money,
but they didn't get the escape down. So we're going
to have to raise their money for their their bail
and maybe he'll help us. Louisville Metro councilman and former
state representative Kevin Bratcher is on the line with us. Kevin,
it's good to talk to you again, man. How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Good to talk to you? Leland? Thanks for having me
this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
No, I appreciate it. I wanted to talk to you
about a couple of things. One just kind of the
state of the city, where we're at, where we're going,
what does next year look like and and all of that.
But I also wanted to talk about traffic. We should
probably start there because you posted a poll on your
on your Facebook about basically asking people whether or not
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they liked roundabouts, because we're getting more and more of those, uh,
and I like to call them roundabouts of death. But whatever,
what what did that pole turn out?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
What do the people of Louisville want to see on
their on their traffic flow is do they want more roundabouts?
Do they like roundabouts or do they hate them?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, you know, I thought it would be like ninety
against but you know, having roundabouts is hanging in there.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
There's just no doubt about it. It decreases deaths.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean there's no argument there there's more. It's it's
really uh talk about weigh in your options. It's there's
more fender benders, but less uh, you know, violent deaths
or violent injuries. Because when you'd get t boned. Man,
you know, my wife was t boned about eight years ago,
and if it was on the other side, who knows
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what happened. It's just a very violent thing and the
roundabouts get rid of that, you know, the jury Still
in my own mind, they are trouble.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Over in Jeffersonville they got this double roundabout and I
can get confused.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
There every time I go over there.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
You never know if you're do you remember that National
Lampoon where Chevy You got to know what you're doing
on those things.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well, that's the thing is like my wife and I
just got back from Ireland, and obviously in Europe, what
you know, they use them prolifically over there, and especially
in England, and they even go the wrong way on them,
which is really kind of crazy. But I found it
over there. It just seems like they're just used to it.
They've always had them, and it makes sense for them.
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They drive well in them. And the other thing I
noticed about them is they're wider, they're much they're much bigger,
and so there's more room for error. And we tend
to in America, we tend to do them a lot
tighter and and I think that might be so I
thought that was interesting. You said from a statistic standpoint
less violent, you know, major injuries, but more fender benders
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is what you're seeing in the research.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, well that is exactly right.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
You know, people are confused and they'll they'll they'll bump
bump each other on that track.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
But uh, you know you can't argue with that.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
The the deaths are just are dropped to zero just about.
I mean, it's it's when you don't when you're not
crossing each other's path, there's no there's no.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Well there's no red light to run, you know, because
you mentioned your wife. My wife, we had just bought
a new car. This is about two years ago. We
had ten miles on it. And she was sitting at
a left turn lane red light, waiting to turn left.
And I remember she told me when she called me
that she had, for whatever reason, she had stopped about
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a car link behind. She was the first car, but
she she had stopped about a car link behind the
white bar that says hey stop here, right, And a
head on collision happened from a guy who ran the
red light right in front of her, and of course
it knocked it knocked one of the vehicles into hers,
and with ten miles on the car, we had to
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indicate it to get it. Yeah, but she was not hurt.
But had she been up on the edge, she would
have been hurt. So I don't know if that was
the lord stepping in there or what, but she for
whatever reason stopped the carling behind with a That's a
major intersection. You couldn't do a roundabout there, But there
wouldn't be a red light to run if there was
a roundabout there.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Mount Carmel, Indiana is a big suburb about to Indianapolis,
and they've had them for years, and that mayor up
there just says it's really helped the injury accidents, you know.
So you know, like I said, in my mind, you
can't fight the statistic that the deaths are dropped back
because who you know, in my stretch of Artstown Road
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in Front Creek in my district.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's it's getting actually normal. I hate to say that.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
For two or three times a year for somebody dying
in a cross traffic intersection.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's really terrible.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah. Do you think since COVID people are worse drivers?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Well, I tell you what, we are now getting state troopers.
The last time you were here, I think you and
I are somebody we talked about a resolution. This was
a long time ago to get state troopers to start
coming into Louisville and helpless police and by golly, they're
doing it now. And a sheriff dees too, This new
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sheriff that's running for election. Heally, he says that he's
going to commit some of the deputy sheriffs to traffic control.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So yeah, you'll think as.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
In Louisville Metro, it's Jefferson County and Metro Louisville of
course are the same. So's you know, that's this is
something that people are appraising right now.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, well that gives that gives multiplication of force. I mean,
there's been some incidents of violence and road rage, you
know on the watersend, and you know, so it's good
to have, you know a little extra presence there because
I think LMPD is a little bit busy. They got
a lot of stuff going on. So, by the way,
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speaking of that and traffic flow, and I know it's
not your part of town, but it used to be
my part of town. I lived in Crestwood and had
to drive seventy one into town every day to get
to the radio station, and it drove me absolutely batty.
They've started the widening project. This is going to take
how long did I see it? We wouldn't be done
until twenty thirty two or am I off?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's going to be a long time.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, they're doing a large stretch out there, and it's needed.
We need it in my district. I'm getting parochial here.
We need in my district too. We need a widening
of Geene Snyder and yeah, but it will take a while.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And I think that I seventy one.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
You know, it's it used to be such a nice
road to go to Cincinnati on that, but now it's
it's kind of treacherous, you know, it's skinny two lanes.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So I'm glad they're doing that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, how do they How do you guys decide? I mean,
obviously the state and the Feds have something to say
about interstates obviously, but when you say your area needs it,
how are those decisions made at city council level? Because
clearly the majority of the city probably leans different politically
than you in terms of councilmen. So how is there
is there fairness involved in that? How do you how
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do you get money for you district for your people
to be able to have their roads updated, because, as
you said, you needed a lot in your area.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, well, you know, I'm no longer a legislator. That's
that's the way to do it. Legislation and the General Assembly.
The Metro Council. Unfortunately, it has only authority over local
roads and county roads, so really not that much input
other than badgering our new state Rep.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Chris Lewis.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
That took my spot there, But yeah, it's it gets
in a six year plan and all the widenings and
the six year plan. They quit using the word six
year plan because the six year plan usually turns into
the sixteen year plan.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Correct, So it's just the road plan.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I love Gliville eight years ago and they were talking
about widening I seventy one the whole time I was there.
I mean, come on, you.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Know, you know there were really flush at the state level,
with plenty of I hate to say this, but plenty
of money in the coffers. But when it comes to
the transportation budget and the general fund is really healthy,
but the transportation budget is always bare bones, and it's
there's some strict ways to fund the transportation and the
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general fund differently. So yeah, yeah, it's always years behind.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I have an idea, so I'm proposing this in San Diego,
where I do my show. Now, okay, and we have
like I thought, I thought Louisville was bad with potholes, dude,
And uh, California has the worst roads in the country
and Gavin Newsom likes to call it the fourth largest
economy in the world. I'm like, well, fix the damn roads, right, dude.
They're so bad. I mean, they are so bad. So
(09:35):
here's what I've proposed. Now you may not. You may
not like this, and I might get in trouble for
bringing this up because I might give the people some
ideas here, but I'm proposing a reverse pothole tax. Okay.
So here's how it would work. Kevin. Okay, we're talking
with Kevin Brodgers. Okay, here's how it would work for
every day past thirty days. Like, let's say, just just
give me a offhand. You don't have to be accurate.
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Give me an estimate how many potholes you think are
in the city of Louisville right now.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Well, you know, the weather's been decent lately, so there's
not as many. But after a stow storm they're on
almost every street.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay, So would you say maybe probably five hundred thousand
potholes around the entire metro area.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I don't know be that many, but yeah, I see
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
We'll go to fifty Okay, we'll go two hundred and
fifty thousand potholes. That's the full metro area. Okay, here's
the way the reverse pothole tax works. For every day
past thirty days that a pothole is not filled, the
City of Louisville has to give the taxpayers back five
dollars for each pothole for every day. So that's one
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point twenty five million a day that comes back to
the taxpayers and a refund. I knew. I can hear
you getting nervous, But the potholes would get filled if
the city had to give the money back, because that's
job number one, right, infrastructure and safety.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Well, you know, but we have, like everybody else in
America right now, we do have labor shortages on some
of our public employees, and it's just a matter of
getting around.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
To out there.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, have you seen have you seen those trucks that
actually fill potholes with the truck. It's like it just
takes a truck, so it drives down the road and
it just fills potholes.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's what we need. More automation like that.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You know, the last time we talked, Leland, I don't
know if you remember this, but I was running legislation
in the in the General Assembly on animal abuse pet abuse,
and you know, we got several of those bills passed.
And the last time I was on your show, I
was saying, how what got my attention was that we
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were below number fifty in the states, Kentucky was in
animal abuse pet abuse bills. And after we passed those bills,
and that's been gosh, I guess six seven, eight years ago.
But now we are in the mid forties and going up.
So we we got a lot done since the last
time we talked. I didn't mean to send you on
a different tangent, but no, actually, you know what my passion.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You know what my passions are, and that's huge. I
know you. I think I can't remember if you were
in the legislature when I worked on the the Romeo's Law,
which was yes, absolutely that first time it became a felony, yeah,
and but even then it was it was very it
was not a very strong I mean we had to compromise, right,
I mean it was right and left coming together to
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deal with an important issue at the moment, and so
it was not what it could have been. But it's
good to see it getting better because I you know,
I'm passionate about animals. You know, I'm passionate about dogs.
We've got four of them. I'm in violation of El
Paso County, Colorado law right now because I have too
many animals. Don't tell anybody I said that, but I
just can't bear not to give them a home. So
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so Kentucky is getting better. The score is getting better.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
A whole lot better.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And I'm really proud, and I know you would be
proud too, because we did talk a whole segment on that,
and it's you got a lot of response from the listeners,
and I can tell the Kentucky is doing much much
better on taking care of our yeah little pets, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I think it's we made.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
We made, we made like torture and all that really
severe if they get caught now and it wasn't before.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It was a slap on the.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Rooms, would you you I don't remember the specific details
of it. But do you remember the first person that
got prosecuted under Romeo's law. It was pretty cool what happened,
not cool, the story wasn't cool, But I mean that
we got the person. So this is this is the
argument that I was making the whole time, was like, look,
if somebody will torture a dog or a cat, they
will eventually turn that evil to a human being. And
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if I remember correctly, the very first prosecution that came
under Romeo's law was a guy who was stalking his
ex girlfriend, skinned her cat alive and hung it from
the front porch. And because he did that, he got
a felony and that got that probably saved her. Like
it sucks that what he did to the cat, But
I mean it was making the point that when when
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a human will do this to an innocent animal, right
that can't defend itself, sure they'll do this to another human.
And every serial killer that we know of in history
started out torturing dogs or cats, started out torturing animals,
and then went on to human beings.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, if you can pass that humanity level of hurting
another living thing, you know, it's just just starts from there.
So yeah, I'm real proud of Kentucky what we've done.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I love it. I love hearing that before I let
you go. Number One thing you're passionate about for next
year for the city.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Level, Well, when I get down to my district, it's
just traffic, traffic, traffic, Marshtown Road, and the Gene Snyder
is horrible. If I look at the broad pictures, I
think Mayor Greenberg is doing a great job on a
lot of things. We have this chase policy that's really becoming.
So if four kids or young adults are for anybody
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breaks into your garage and steals things and you know
who they are and they're running off, the police will
not pursue. There's a violet crime attached. And you know,
it's the whole thing of how far do we go
as far as chasing criminals in their cars and hurting
an innocent person versus the criminals are now laughing at us, saying, Hi,
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you can't chase us anyway. So you know, it's really
you know, government is just pros and cons and constantly
weighing goods and bad options. And that's where we're at
right now. And I don't know how it's going to
get settled literally the date chase policy.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, we've got a great police chief in San Diego
and we're literally having the same debate because they're trying
to tie his hands right now. It's ridiculous. Well listen, Kevin,
it's always good to talk to you, my friend. Thank
you so much for what you do. Appreciate you standing
up for what's right and your work on Metro Council
when you're working the legislature before that. Thanks for your
time today.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Thank you great. Talk to your Lee you.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
As well, Kevin Bratcher when we continue. Scott Jennings, if
you missed him earlier this morning, we caught up to
him in Fort Lauderdale on his book tour. We're gonna
talk to him again here on News Radio eight forty
whas Leland Conways sitting in for Tony and Dwight. They
robbed a bank this morning. We're raising money for their bail.
On the line with me now. We're gonna talk Scott
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to Scott Jennings here in just a couple of minutes.
But first I want to bring my friend Lee Kirklin in.
He is the founder and he runs cryptig Con, which
is a big event going on over in Lexington tomorrow
and Sunday, and I'm fascinated with this stuff. I call
myself an open minded skeptic about the pair and normal,
but my buddy Lee is deep in it and he
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runs us great organization and also works with a lot
of the television stars that you see on the paranormal
shows like Bigfoot Hunters, Ghost Hunters, et cetera. And Lee. Welcome, dude,
It's good to have you. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Awesome man, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, I love CRYPTI Con. You know that I've loved
it for a long time. And you know you've got
one of the events that you have is one of
the panels that you have a secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
You've got some folks from that show that is my
favorite show on television right now. I really I got
to know who's going to be on the panel and
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are they going to reveal anything that we don't know
about from the TV show.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
That's a great question. So they will be some behind
the scenes discussions from the guys on the panel was
Thomas Winterton, he is the farm manager and Dragon Bryant
see Bryant, Dragon Arnold. They call him Dragon on the show.
He's the farm security and we had Eric Bard, which
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is the scientist on the show, but he had to
end up canceling on us. So yeah, we had to
take him off the roster. But we will have Bryant
and Thomas with us this weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Now, I heard a rumor that Travis was maybe not
going to be on the show next year. He's the
physicist from Alabama that has worked with the federal government
on the UFO topic in studying it. Is that true
or is he going to be back.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I'm unhurting on that. I mean, he's a staple on
the show, so I have like freaking but I haven't
talked to him personally about it, and maybe that's something
we can get from the guys this weekend.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
There you go, That's that's this, that's the big question.
So have you been out to Skinwalker Ranch yourself?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
I have not, but I've had an open invitation to
come out and I'm hoping to take him up on
it for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I was like, why have you not gone?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Man?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I drove within maybe ten miles of the ranch a
couple of months ago. I was up in Salt Lake
and I came back that way down through the Colorado
National Monument or not sorry, not Colorado National Monument, the
Dinosaur National Monument, which is right there on the border
of Colorado and Utah. And that is that is a
desolate area. It's pretty up there, but it's very desolate.
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I could see. I was thinking the whole time I
was driving through there. I was like, I could see
that this would be a place where you'd see a
lot of strange things in the sky.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Oh absolutely, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, how do folks get get to be a part
of your your cryptic Con this weekend? Is? Can we
get them the website so they can go if they'd
like to.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Absolutely, I would love to have everybody come if they
you know, all your listeners. But it's Cryptidcon dot com
is the website, and like you mentioned, we're in Lexington,
Kentucky for this weekend. Tickets starting at thirty dollars and
it's going to be just full days of presentations, you know,
hundreds of vendors. It's just a big it's a big event.
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You know, it's family friendly, so everybody should come and
check it out.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I love it. A lot of stars there from the
paranormal television and movie world. It will be worth your while.
Appreciate your time, brother, and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I appreciate Leland all right.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's Lee Kirkland. He runs Cryptic con Over in Like
say that seriously. That is my favorite show on television.
Appreciate you. Lee coming on the program on News Radio
eight forty whas Leland Conway is sitting in for Tony
and Dwight. We all know him, we all love him.
It's Scott Jennings, local Louisville boy. He's written a book.
It's called Revolution of Common Sense. How Donald Trump stormed
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Washington and fought for Western civilization. And I really think
Scott Jennings had a big part to play in Trump
returning to the White House. And I think he did
that by going viral with some of his clips of
defeating liberals on CNN. It was just so much common
sense that he was using and that mirrored up with
Trump's campaign in a lot of ways. And so super
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excited to have Scott Jennings with us. We caught up
with him in Fort Lauderdale, Florida on his book tour,
where he is around the country selling and signing these books.
It's going to be a great book, hope you'll check
it out. It's on Amazon dot com. It is Scott
Jennings on the line with us, and it's it's really
been kind of cool, Scott, because you're You're a Louisville
boy and uh and I'm a Kentucky boy, and it's
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kind of fun. How to watch what you've been able
to do. You've now got a national radio show, we
see you on CNN, and your new book is out,
A Revolution in common Sense? What led what led you
down the path to this book? And why this book
in particular, why common sense? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
It seems like common sense is everywhere. Everybody's operating on
common sense right now, Scott, I mean, come on.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Well, it's thanks to the President. And the reason I
came up with the title a Revolution of common Sense
is because that's a phrase that President Trump used in
his inaugural address. He said We're going to have a
revolution of common sense. And you know, when that hit
me in January, I thought, well, that is the perfect
way to brand his political movement. Yeah, and he's a
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Republican and mostly he's a conservative, but really what he
pitches the voters is I'm going to try to do
the common sense thing, you know, in doing the book.
I went with the President to Michigan on his one
hundredth day in office, and he said to the crowd
in Michigan at a big rally, whether you're left or
whether you're right or whatever you are, it's just common sense.
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And the crowd roared. And I think that branding has
appealed to people who don't think of themselves as being
overly political. They just want the government to try to
be smart and stop being stupid. That's what I mean. Basically,
that's what Trump is pitching. And so I thought that's
gonna be a great book title. Of course, it also
harkens back to Thomas Pain. Yeah, one of the revolutionary
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figures who wrote the pamphlet Common Sense, who we quote on.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
The book flap.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
So I'm excited to have it out and it's going
great so far, and everyone's been super kind to buy
it and say nice things about it.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Well, and I should mention the subtitle, which is how
Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization. And
it's interesting you tie that to Thomas Pain. Thomas Pain,
you couldn't really put him down to like a particular ideology.
He was a founding father, so to speak. He was
one of the rabble rousers and one of the passionate
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writers of that time. But he had views that you
could consider this day to be a little bit on
both sides of the isle, and if you really stop,
and the left is seemingly uncapable of this because of
the Orange Man bad syndrome. But I sometimes marvel at
some of the policies that Trump has that really do
cross the aisle, at least they would have twenty or
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thirty years ago when people still got along. I mean,
can you imagine if he was president in nineteen eighty eight,
when the Democrat Party and Republican Party actually still talk
to each other.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Well, it's interesting because even though the elites of the
parties may not communicate, the voters do. And Trump actually
has great appeal to lots of people who used to
vote Democrat. I mean, I talked about my dad in
the book, and he was an old Clinton Democrat, a
union guy, was a garbage man and a factory worker.
He was the first person to tell me Donald Trump
was going to be the next president the United States.
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And so I actually think at the grassroots level, at
the regular person level, you do have a lot of crossover,
and maybe it doesn't reach the elite level, which is
sad and unfortunate, but just at the layer of average,
everyday working Americans. I do think they're talking to each
other and they're all asking the same question, why does
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government do stupid things all the time? And these are
the like this is what Trump. Trump's one of his
main abilities is to just say what everyone else is
already thinking. You know, we had been living in sort
of a culture where everyone was afraid to say out
loud what we knew we were all thinking, whether it
was on the trans issues, or on DEI or on immigration.
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I mean, you know, there was so much going on
in our society under Biden, and they sort of operated
a culture of fear, like you're not allowed to say
out loud what the common sense thing here is. You know,
we were talking about Thomas Pain the book Flap. I
quote Thomas Pain who wrote in common sense, a long
habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a
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superficial appearance of being right. Wow, And on some of
these some of these ideologies we were just discussing, that
was the leftist plan. If we just make them accept
boys and girls' sports long enough. If we just make
them accept DEI long enough, everyone will just assume that
it's right. And you and I both so it's not right.
And Trump came along and busted it up.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, that's a that's a really great point. And I
love that quote because it does seem like it's Also
it's also the way, you know, spiritual warfare works in
a lot of ways, right, is if if the devil
could tell you a lie enough, right, then it seems
as though it's true, and it seems as though it's okay.
And we had this facade for the last four years especially,
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and I think during COVID it really ramped up. But
this facade of well, maybe not everybody thinks this way,
but certainly if I speak up, I'm I'm gonna get
punished for it.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
It was almost like this weird syndrome that took over
the whole country. And for some reason, you know, somehow
Trump was able to sort of bust that up. I mean,
I saw the rallies. I'd reported on several of them,
and you know, it's it's funny when I see things
that he says and the left freaks out about him,
And I'm like, if you understood the context, you would
also understand that halftime he's joking. He's trolling you right now.
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You know, he's trying to get that reaction, and he
sort of told America, hey, it is okay to speak
out against this nonsense. I mean, I think that's his
campaign symbolized in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Absolutely, he took the wet blanket of uncommon nonsense off
of America, and he stopped the momentum of these people
who wanted to transform our culture. I mean, as you said,
if you let something lay out there long enough, if
you enforce it long enough, it eventually just becomes part
of the firmament. That's the liberal plan. That's what they
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do to him on narratives. You know, if you tell
people long enough that Russia stole the twenty sixteen election,
people will believe it. And by the way, one whole
political party believes that nonsense. It's the same thing on Epstein. Yeah,
if you tell people long enough that Donald Trump has
something to do with this, people will believe it. That's
their plan. Now, the evidence, as you know, Leland, is
that Trump had nothing to do with it, but a
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lot of Democrats might have, but the narrative. So it's
sort of the enforcement of narratives. Did you know you
can wake up in the morning and change your gender? Hey, hey,
did you know that it's more important, you know, what
your race or your gender is than what your talent
level or your work ethic is. If you if you
could enforce these narratives over a long period of time,
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you can just sort of make them part of American
culture or America's political firmament. And Trump busted it up.
And you know, there's a lot of non political people
out there who don't think of themselves as partisans at all,
but they cannot stand the enforcement of narratives. And media
does it. Democrats do it, Liberals do it. It's part
of the progressive plan I think to change America.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, I feel out in my bones right now. When
you're you've got an opportunity to meet with the I
know you've spent a lot of time with the President.
You spend a lot of time with them on the campaign.
You you talk with them regularly, but you did get
to go to the White House the other day and
you met with the president. What is he like?
Speaker 3 (27:58):
What was that conversation like, well, it was good to
see him, because when I met with him and pitched
him on the book in February, I said, if you'll
cooperate and work with me here, I'll have this delivered
by the end of the year. And I did it.
And so well, if you.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Tell Trump something like that, you better deliver because it's oh.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
He'll remember. Oh, let me tell you something. I'll give
you a nugget from the book. I interviewed several of
the cabinet members and the one thing I heard from
one of them was, you can tell Donald Trump we're
working on it one time, but if he tells you
to do if he tells you to do something, you
get one chance to say, we're working on it, mister president.
But the second time he asks where it is, it
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better be done.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Wow. Yeah that so for me.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
So for me, he knew I was working on this book,
and so to walk in there in November and show
him a copy and say, you know, here's the delivery. Interestingly,
he loves the cover. During the writing process, I didn't
know what to put on the cover. He was a
million photos of him, and so I asked him, you know,
what's your favor photo of you from this first hundred days,
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and that's the one he sent back. And so I
handed him the book and he was like, this is
the greatest cover.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
And I said, I know, I know, I said, I
might be a mediocre author, but I'm good at marketing.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Sir, Yeah, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. Well, I doubt you're
You're not a mediocre author, because I've read your stuff.
So let's give us a little insight into the man
that is our president. I mean, Kentucky voted super overwhelmingly
for for for President Trump. Give us some insight into
the man, because you do know him. I was watching
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a video of him and Kai, his granddaughter the other
day on the golf course, and it was this like
superhuman moment and it was kind of real, and it
was it, you know, I mean, he's a showman and
the showman had dropped and you were just seeing the
grandpa and I thought, you know, this is the problem
that we've lost in politics, is that we don't see
our political opponents as human beings. Here he is just
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chatting with his with his granddaughter about her dreams and
what he wants to do next, and what he will
do after he's president, and all this kind of stuff
give us some insight into the man away from the lights.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, I think you raise an interesting observation about caricatures.
I experienced this with President Bush when I work for him.
The caricature of the media portrayal of these people is
often completely wrong, and it's done to make you feel
poorly about them. With Donald Trump, the caricature would be
of some honery mean person who doesn't listen and is
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the opposite of warm, and honestly, I found that to
be completely and totally false. This man is warm, He
is hospitable. He is funny. I mean he is funny, dude,
like in person, this guy is funny. He's a professional
tal snapper, but he's solicitous. I watched him meet with
his advisers and his cabinet members. He solicits opinions. He's
a great listener, he listens to everything, and he has
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his people sort of hash these issues out in front
of him. He asks good questions, but he absorbs these
debates and he absorb orbes this back and forth, and
then he's very decisive, which is not like Biden. Biden
was famously indecisive, and that leads to weakness, but being
a good listener and being decisive leads to strength. But personally,
this guy, he's solicitous and he's hospitable. You know, he's
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from the hospitality industry. He's forever asking people, you know,
are you thirsty? Can I get you this? Can I
get you that? You know, he gave me the hat
off his head once for my own dad. He was like,
do you want my head? I said no, but my
dad would love it. The guy took the hat off
his own head and signed it for my dad. And
so he's really he's really engaging. And you know, Bill Maher,
who's not a huge Trump fan, but you know, had
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dinner with him a few months ago. He came away
thinking the same thing, like, look, you know, I like
Donald Trump. He's actually okay to talk to and he's
pretty fun and engaging guy. But you know, the media
caricature is the opposite of that. And of course they
do that for a reason, because they're trying to grind
a political acts instead of tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, all right, before I let you go quick two
quick questions. One, I want to go back to the
Epstein thing real quick. You mentioned and you know they're
bending over backwards. I thought it was funny that the
only email that they presented that mentioned Trump was actually
Epstein whining about Trump kicking him out of MARLOCKO. So
I mean, yes, there's no there there because they would
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have released it in the last four years. Is this
about to be troubled waters for the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I think they have blundered into a major problem, which
is we're going to find out just how tight in
Epstein was to several senior Democrats. We already see it.
Larry Summers is now his life is wrecked over it.
Hakeem Jefferies was fundraising with Epstein. Epstein was programming a
member of Congress, Stacy Plaskett. That won't be the last example.
I mean, remember something like ninety percent of Epstein's political
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donations went to Democrats, and he hated Trump. Trump excommunicated Epstein.
Epstein hated Trump, and Trump got rid of him, but
the Democrats never did. They never got rid of this guy,
and we're going to find out the depths of it.
I think they've made a major mistake. I mean, Republicans
kind of called their bluff on it, but now they
got to.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Live with it, so you see what happened.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, and I think it's good for the country that
these are coming out. Last thing, What do you hope
people get from your book? A Revolution of Common Sense?
How Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization.
It's available on Amazon. The hardcover is only twenty bucks.
I love it. What do you hope people get out
of this? Please read it?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
By the way, Yeah, look, I want people it's kind
of history book. I want people to understand how consequential
the first one hundred days of his presidency was. When
you're a Republican president, You've got the media, the Democrats,
and the entrench federal bureaucracy trying to stop you. They
try to overwhelm you, and Donald Trump said, Nope, I'm
going to overwhelm them.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
And it is a story of how a Republican president
refused to take what normally happens to Republicans lying down.
He hit Washington before it ever got out of bed,
and it had a consequential result for our country.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
He was much more ready this time, wasn't he?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
He was reready well, was ready to.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Get don't want to give away too much. But what's
the number one accomplishment you think he had in that
first one hundred days. Was it doze or was it
something else?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
A dose consequential? But to me it's by far immigration. Yeah,
the border is closed, yep, we're enforcing federal law and
it's still I mean today, we haven't had a federal
an illegal crossing in five months. I mean, it's amazing
what the guy did. So no, it's and that was
the number one thing he promised when he first started
running ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, and so he is.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's amazing. So it's immigration to me.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Well, thanks for taking a little minute or two out
of your crazy busy book schedule, your book tour. Can't
wait to get my hands on it and read it
all the way through cover to cover. Appreciate you, Scott,
You're the man. Thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Thanks Leland, take care of Bell all right.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Brother, awesome. Thanks so much for letting me sit in
for Tony and Dwight today. It's always a fun time
to be on whas feels like it's at home. Can
follow me on Twitter it's at Leland's show or Gavin
Newsom's hair. That's my Twitter Twitter handle it's Gavin Newsom's hair,
so check it out. I'm also on Instagram at Great
Lelando and on Facebook under Leland Conway. Good to see you,
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good to talk to you. Thanks so much for your time.
News Radio eight forty whas
All right, just fresh off my humiliation in the reel
and in the year's segment that was planned. I'm not
good at that, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I did.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I never did. I never did music radio. Well, I
actually I did. I did very shortly, but it was
it was not like your Top forty or whatever. So
I have songs on my playlist that I don't even
know the title or the artist or the year it
came out. I just like it, so I play it
and I listened to it, and that's pretty much it.
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Oh my goodness. Leland Conway sitting in for Tony and Dwight.
They robbed a bank earlier this morning. It didn't go
well on the escape. They did get a lot of money,
but they didn't get the escape down. So we're going
to have to raise their money for their their bail
and maybe he'll help us. Louisville Metro councilman and former
state representative Kevin Bratcher is on the line with us. Kevin,
it's good to talk to you again, man. How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Good to talk to you? Leland? Thanks for having me
this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
No, I appreciate it. I wanted to talk to you
about a couple of things. One just kind of the
state of the city, where we're at, where we're going,
what does next year look like and and all of that.
But I also wanted to talk about traffic. We should
probably start there because you posted a poll on your
on your Facebook about basically asking people whether or not
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they liked roundabouts, because we're getting more and more of those, uh,
and I like to call them roundabouts of death. But whatever,
what what did that pole turn out?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
What do the people of Louisville want to see on
their on their traffic flow is do they want more roundabouts?
Do they like roundabouts or do they hate them?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, you know, I thought it would be like ninety
against but you know, having roundabouts is hanging in there.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
There's just no doubt about it. It decreases deaths.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean there's no argument there there's more. It's it's
really uh talk about weigh in your options. It's there's
more fender benders, but less uh, you know, violent deaths
or violent injuries. Because when you'd get t boned. Man,
you know, my wife was t boned about eight years ago,
and if it was on the other side, who knows
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what happened. It's just a very violent thing and the
roundabouts get rid of that, you know, the jury Still
in my own mind, they are trouble.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Over in Jeffersonville they got this double roundabout and I
can get confused.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
There every time I go over there.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
You never know if you're do you remember that National
Lampoon where Chevy You got to know what you're doing
on those things.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well, that's the thing is like my wife and I
just got back from Ireland, and obviously in Europe, what
you know, they use them prolifically over there, and especially
in England, and they even go the wrong way on them,
which is really kind of crazy. But I found it
over there. It just seems like they're just used to it.
They've always had them, and it makes sense for them.
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They drive well in them. And the other thing I
noticed about them is they're wider, they're much they're much bigger,
and so there's more room for error. And we tend
to in America, we tend to do them a lot
tighter and and I think that might be so I
thought that was interesting. You said from a statistic standpoint
less violent, you know, major injuries, but more fender benders
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is what you're seeing in the research.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, well that is exactly right.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
You know, people are confused and they'll they'll they'll bump
bump each other on that track.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
But uh, you know you can't argue with that.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
The the deaths are just are dropped to zero just about.
I mean, it's it's when you don't when you're not
crossing each other's path, there's no there's no.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Well there's no red light to run, you know, because
you mentioned your wife. My wife, we had just bought
a new car. This is about two years ago. We
had ten miles on it. And she was sitting at
a left turn lane red light, waiting to turn left.
And I remember she told me when she called me
that she had, for whatever reason, she had stopped about
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a car link behind. She was the first car, but
she she had stopped about a car link behind the
white bar that says hey stop here, right, And a
head on collision happened from a guy who ran the
red light right in front of her, and of course
it knocked it knocked one of the vehicles into hers,
and with ten miles on the car, we had to
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indicate it to get it. Yeah, but she was not hurt.
But had she been up on the edge, she would
have been hurt. So I don't know if that was
the lord stepping in there or what, but she for
whatever reason stopped the carling behind with a That's a
major intersection. You couldn't do a roundabout there, But there
wouldn't be a red light to run if there was
a roundabout there.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Mount Carmel, Indiana is a big suburb about to Indianapolis,
and they've had them for years, and that mayor up
there just says it's really helped the injury accidents, you know.
So you know, like I said, in my mind, you
can't fight the statistic that the deaths are dropped back
because who you know, in my stretch of Artstown Road
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in Front Creek in my district.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's it's getting actually normal. I hate to say that.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
For two or three times a year for somebody dying
in a cross traffic intersection.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's really terrible.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah. Do you think since COVID people are worse drivers?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Well, I tell you what, we are now getting state troopers.
The last time you were here, I think you and
I are somebody we talked about a resolution. This was
a long time ago to get state troopers to start
coming into Louisville and helpless police and by golly, they're
doing it now. And a sheriff dees too, This new
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sheriff that's running for election. Heally, he says that he's
going to commit some of the deputy sheriffs to traffic control.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So yeah, you'll think as.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
In Louisville Metro, it's Jefferson County and Metro Louisville of
course are the same. So's you know, that's this is
something that people are appraising right now.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, well that gives that gives multiplication of force. I mean,
there's been some incidents of violence and road rage, you
know on the watersend, and you know, so it's good
to have, you know a little extra presence there because
I think LMPD is a little bit busy. They got
a lot of stuff going on. So, by the way,
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speaking of that and traffic flow, and I know it's
not your part of town, but it used to be
my part of town. I lived in Crestwood and had
to drive seventy one into town every day to get
to the radio station, and it drove me absolutely batty.
They've started the widening project. This is going to take
how long did I see it? We wouldn't be done
until twenty thirty two or am I off?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's going to be a long time.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, they're doing a large stretch out there, and it's needed.
We need it in my district. I'm getting parochial here.
We need in my district too. We need a widening
of Geene Snyder and yeah, but it will take a while.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And I think that I seventy one.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
You know, it's it used to be such a nice
road to go to Cincinnati on that, but now it's
it's kind of treacherous, you know, it's skinny two lanes.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So I'm glad they're doing that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, how do they How do you guys decide? I mean,
obviously the state and the Feds have something to say
about interstates obviously, but when you say your area needs it,
how are those decisions made at city council level? Because
clearly the majority of the city probably leans different politically
than you in terms of councilmen. So how is there
is there fairness involved in that? How do you how
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do you get money for you district for your people
to be able to have their roads updated, because, as
you said, you needed a lot in your area.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, well, you know, I'm no longer a legislator. That's
that's the way to do it. Legislation and the General Assembly.
The Metro Council. Unfortunately, it has only authority over local
roads and county roads, so really not that much input
other than badgering our new state Rep.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Chris Lewis.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
That took my spot there, But yeah, it's it gets
in a six year plan and all the widenings and
the six year plan. They quit using the word six
year plan because the six year plan usually turns into
the sixteen year plan.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Correct, So it's just the road plan.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I love Gliville eight years ago and they were talking
about widening I seventy one the whole time I was there.
I mean, come on, you.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Know, you know there were really flush at the state level,
with plenty of I hate to say this, but plenty
of money in the coffers. But when it comes to
the transportation budget and the general fund is really healthy,
but the transportation budget is always bare bones, and it's
there's some strict ways to fund the transportation and the
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general fund differently. So yeah, yeah, it's always years behind.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I have an idea, so I'm proposing this in San Diego,
where I do my show. Now, okay, and we have
like I thought, I thought Louisville was bad with potholes, dude,
And uh, California has the worst roads in the country
and Gavin Newsom likes to call it the fourth largest
economy in the world. I'm like, well, fix the damn roads, right, dude.
They're so bad. I mean, they are so bad. So
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here's what I've proposed. Now you may not. You may
not like this, and I might get in trouble for
bringing this up because I might give the people some
ideas here, but I'm proposing a reverse pothole tax. Okay.
So here's how it would work. Kevin. Okay, we're talking
with Kevin Brodgers. Okay, here's how it would work for
every day past thirty days. Like, let's say, just just
give me a offhand. You don't have to be accurate.
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Give me an estimate how many potholes you think are
in the city of Louisville right now.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Well, you know, the weather's been decent lately, so there's
not as many. But after a stow storm they're on
almost every street.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay, So would you say maybe probably five hundred thousand
potholes around the entire metro area.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I don't know be that many, but yeah, I see
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
We'll go to fifty Okay, we'll go two hundred and
fifty thousand potholes. That's the full metro area. Okay, here's
the way the reverse pothole tax works. For every day
past thirty days that a pothole is not filled, the
City of Louisville has to give the taxpayers back five
dollars for each pothole for every day. So that's one
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point twenty five million a day that comes back to
the taxpayers and a refund. I knew. I can hear
you getting nervous, But the potholes would get filled if
the city had to give the money back, because that's
job number one, right, infrastructure and safety.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Well, you know, but we have, like everybody else in
America right now, we do have labor shortages on some
of our public employees, and it's just a matter of
getting around.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
To out there.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, have you seen have you seen those trucks that
actually fill potholes with the truck. It's like it just
takes a truck, so it drives down the road and
it just fills potholes.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's what we need. More automation like that.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You know, the last time we talked, Leland, I don't
know if you remember this, but I was running legislation
in the in the General Assembly on animal abuse pet abuse,
and you know, we got several of those bills passed.
And the last time I was on your show, I
was saying, how what got my attention was that we
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were below number fifty in the states, Kentucky was in
animal abuse pet abuse bills. And after we passed those bills,
and that's been gosh, I guess six seven, eight years ago.
But now we are in the mid forties and going up.
So we we got a lot done since the last
time we talked. I didn't mean to send you on
a different tangent, but no, actually, you know what my passion.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You know what my passions are, and that's huge. I
know you. I think I can't remember if you were
in the legislature when I worked on the the Romeo's Law,
which was yes, absolutely that first time it became a felony, yeah,
and but even then it was it was very it
was not a very strong I mean we had to compromise, right,
I mean it was right and left coming together to
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deal with an important issue at the moment, and so
it was not what it could have been. But it's
good to see it getting better because I you know,
I'm passionate about animals. You know, I'm passionate about dogs.
We've got four of them. I'm in violation of El
Paso County, Colorado law right now because I have too
many animals. Don't tell anybody I said that, but I
just can't bear not to give them a home. So
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so Kentucky is getting better. The score is getting better.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
A whole lot better.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And I'm really proud, and I know you would be
proud too, because we did talk a whole segment on that,
and it's you got a lot of response from the listeners,
and I can tell the Kentucky is doing much much
better on taking care of our yeah little pets, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I think it's we made.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
We made, we made like torture and all that really
severe if they get caught now and it wasn't before.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It was a slap on the.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Rooms, would you you I don't remember the specific details
of it. But do you remember the first person that
got prosecuted under Romeo's law. It was pretty cool what happened,
not cool, the story wasn't cool, But I mean that
we got the person. So this is this is the
argument that I was making the whole time, was like, look,
if somebody will torture a dog or a cat, they
will eventually turn that evil to a human being. And
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if I remember correctly, the very first prosecution that came
under Romeo's law was a guy who was stalking his
ex girlfriend, skinned her cat alive and hung it from
the front porch. And because he did that, he got
a felony and that got that probably saved her. Like
it sucks that what he did to the cat, But
I mean it was making the point that when when
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a human will do this to an innocent animal, right
that can't defend itself, sure they'll do this to another human.
And every serial killer that we know of in history
started out torturing dogs or cats, started out torturing animals,
and then went on to human beings.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, if you can pass that humanity level of hurting
another living thing, you know, it's just just starts from there.
So yeah, I'm real proud of Kentucky what we've done.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I love it. I love hearing that before I let
you go. Number One thing you're passionate about for next
year for the city.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Level, Well, when I get down to my district, it's
just traffic, traffic, traffic, Marshtown Road, and the Gene Snyder
is horrible. If I look at the broad pictures, I
think Mayor Greenberg is doing a great job on a
lot of things. We have this chase policy that's really becoming.
So if four kids or young adults are for anybody
(14:52):
breaks into your garage and steals things and you know
who they are and they're running off, the police will
not pursue. There's a violet crime attached. And you know,
it's the whole thing of how far do we go
as far as chasing criminals in their cars and hurting
an innocent person versus the criminals are now laughing at us, saying, Hi,
(15:14):
you can't chase us anyway. So you know, it's really
you know, government is just pros and cons and constantly
weighing goods and bad options. And that's where we're at
right now. And I don't know how it's going to
get settled literally the date chase policy.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, we've got a great police chief in San Diego
and we're literally having the same debate because they're trying
to tie his hands right now. It's ridiculous. Well listen, Kevin,
it's always good to talk to you, my friend. Thank
you so much for what you do. Appreciate you standing
up for what's right and your work on Metro Council
when you're working the legislature before that. Thanks for your
time today.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Thank you great. Talk to your Lee you.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
As well, Kevin Bratcher when we continue. Scott Jennings, if
you missed him earlier this morning, we caught up to
him in Fort Lauderdale on his book tour. We're gonna
talk to him again here on News Radio eight forty
whas Leland Conways sitting in for Tony and Dwight. They
robbed a bank this morning. We're raising money for their bail.
On the line with me now. We're gonna talk Scott
(16:10):
to Scott Jennings here in just a couple of minutes.
But first I want to bring my friend Lee Kirklin in.
He is the founder and he runs cryptig Con, which
is a big event going on over in Lexington tomorrow
and Sunday, and I'm fascinated with this stuff. I call
myself an open minded skeptic about the pair and normal,
but my buddy Lee is deep in it and he
(16:31):
runs us great organization and also works with a lot
of the television stars that you see on the paranormal
shows like Bigfoot Hunters, Ghost Hunters, et cetera. And Lee. Welcome, dude,
It's good to have you. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Awesome man, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, I love CRYPTI Con. You know that I've loved
it for a long time. And you know you've got
one of the events that you have is one of
the panels that you have a secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
You've got some folks from that show that is my
favorite show on television right now. I really I got
to know who's going to be on the panel and
(17:07):
are they going to reveal anything that we don't know
about from the TV show.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
That's a great question. So they will be some behind
the scenes discussions from the guys on the panel was
Thomas Winterton, he is the farm manager and Dragon Bryant
see Bryant, Dragon Arnold. They call him Dragon on the show.
He's the farm security and we had Eric Bard, which
(17:34):
is the scientist on the show, but he had to
end up canceling on us. So yeah, we had to
take him off the roster. But we will have Bryant
and Thomas with us this weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Now, I heard a rumor that Travis was maybe not
going to be on the show next year. He's the
physicist from Alabama that has worked with the federal government
on the UFO topic in studying it. Is that true
or is he going to be back.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I'm unhurting on that. I mean, he's a staple on
the show, so I have like freaking but I haven't
talked to him personally about it, and maybe that's something
we can get from the guys this weekend.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
There you go, That's that's this, that's the big question.
So have you been out to Skinwalker Ranch yourself?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
I have not, but I've had an open invitation to
come out and I'm hoping to take him up on
it for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I was like, why have you not gone?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Man?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I drove within maybe ten miles of the ranch a
couple of months ago. I was up in Salt Lake
and I came back that way down through the Colorado
National Monument or not sorry, not Colorado National Monument, the
Dinosaur National Monument, which is right there on the border
of Colorado and Utah. And that is that is a
desolate area. It's pretty up there, but it's very desolate.
(18:50):
I could see. I was thinking the whole time I
was driving through there. I was like, I could see
that this would be a place where you'd see a
lot of strange things in the sky.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Oh absolutely, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, how do folks get get to be a part
of your your cryptic Con this weekend? Is? Can we
get them the website so they can go if they'd
like to.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Absolutely, I would love to have everybody come if they
you know, all your listeners. But it's Cryptidcon dot com
is the website, and like you mentioned, we're in Lexington,
Kentucky for this weekend. Tickets starting at thirty dollars and
it's going to be just full days of presentations, you know,
hundreds of vendors. It's just a big it's a big event.
(19:30):
You know, it's family friendly, so everybody should come and
check it out.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I love it. A lot of stars there from the
paranormal television and movie world. It will be worth your while.
Appreciate your time, brother, and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I appreciate Leland all right.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's Lee Kirkland. He runs Cryptic con Over in Like
say that seriously. That is my favorite show on television.
Appreciate you. Lee coming on the program on News Radio
eight forty whas Leland Conway is sitting in for Tony
and Dwight. We all know him, we all love him.
It's Scott Jennings, local Louisville boy. He's written a book.
It's called Revolution of Common Sense. How Donald Trump stormed
(20:03):
Washington and fought for Western civilization. And I really think
Scott Jennings had a big part to play in Trump
returning to the White House. And I think he did
that by going viral with some of his clips of
defeating liberals on CNN. It was just so much common
sense that he was using and that mirrored up with
Trump's campaign in a lot of ways. And so super
(20:24):
excited to have Scott Jennings with us. We caught up
with him in Fort Lauderdale, Florida on his book tour,
where he is around the country selling and signing these books.
It's going to be a great book, hope you'll check
it out. It's on Amazon dot com. It is Scott
Jennings on the line with us, and it's it's really
been kind of cool, Scott, because you're You're a Louisville
boy and uh and I'm a Kentucky boy, and it's
(20:46):
kind of fun. How to watch what you've been able
to do. You've now got a national radio show, we
see you on CNN, and your new book is out,
A Revolution in common Sense? What led what led you
down the path to this book? And why this book
in particular, why common sense? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
It seems like common sense is everywhere. Everybody's operating on
common sense right now, Scott, I mean, come on.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Well, it's thanks to the President. And the reason I
came up with the title a Revolution of common Sense
is because that's a phrase that President Trump used in
his inaugural address. He said We're going to have a
revolution of common sense. And you know, when that hit
me in January, I thought, well, that is the perfect
way to brand his political movement. Yeah, and he's a
(21:31):
Republican and mostly he's a conservative, but really what he
pitches the voters is I'm going to try to do
the common sense thing, you know, in doing the book.
I went with the President to Michigan on his one
hundredth day in office, and he said to the crowd
in Michigan at a big rally, whether you're left or
whether you're right or whatever you are, it's just common sense.
(21:53):
And the crowd roared. And I think that branding has
appealed to people who don't think of themselves as being
overly political. They just want the government to try to
be smart and stop being stupid. That's what I mean. Basically,
that's what Trump is pitching. And so I thought that's
gonna be a great book title. Of course, it also
harkens back to Thomas Pain. Yeah, one of the revolutionary
(22:13):
figures who wrote the pamphlet Common Sense, who we quote on.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
The book flap.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
So I'm excited to have it out and it's going
great so far, and everyone's been super kind to buy
it and say nice things about it.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Well, and I should mention the subtitle, which is how
Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization. And
it's interesting you tie that to Thomas Pain. Thomas Pain,
you couldn't really put him down to like a particular ideology.
He was a founding father, so to speak. He was
one of the rabble rousers and one of the passionate
(22:45):
writers of that time. But he had views that you
could consider this day to be a little bit on
both sides of the isle, and if you really stop,
and the left is seemingly uncapable of this because of
the Orange Man bad syndrome. But I sometimes marvel at
some of the policies that Trump has that really do
cross the aisle, at least they would have twenty or
(23:06):
thirty years ago when people still got along. I mean,
can you imagine if he was president in nineteen eighty eight,
when the Democrat Party and Republican Party actually still talk
to each other.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Well, it's interesting because even though the elites of the
parties may not communicate, the voters do. And Trump actually
has great appeal to lots of people who used to
vote Democrat. I mean, I talked about my dad in
the book, and he was an old Clinton Democrat, a
union guy, was a garbage man and a factory worker.
He was the first person to tell me Donald Trump
was going to be the next president the United States.
(23:37):
And so I actually think at the grassroots level, at
the regular person level, you do have a lot of crossover,
and maybe it doesn't reach the elite level, which is
sad and unfortunate, but just at the layer of average,
everyday working Americans. I do think they're talking to each
other and they're all asking the same question, why does
(23:57):
government do stupid things all the time? And these are
the like this is what Trump. Trump's one of his
main abilities is to just say what everyone else is
already thinking. You know, we had been living in sort
of a culture where everyone was afraid to say out
loud what we knew we were all thinking, whether it
was on the trans issues, or on DEI or on immigration.
(24:19):
I mean, you know, there was so much going on
in our society under Biden, and they sort of operated
a culture of fear, like you're not allowed to say
out loud what the common sense thing here is. You know,
we were talking about Thomas Pain the book Flap. I
quote Thomas Pain who wrote in common sense, a long
habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a
(24:41):
superficial appearance of being right. Wow, And on some of
these some of these ideologies we were just discussing, that
was the leftist plan. If we just make them accept
boys and girls' sports long enough. If we just make
them accept DEI long enough, everyone will just assume that
it's right. And you and I both so it's not right.
And Trump came along and busted it up.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, that's a that's a really great point. And I
love that quote because it does seem like it's Also
it's also the way, you know, spiritual warfare works in
a lot of ways, right, is if if the devil
could tell you a lie enough, right, then it seems
as though it's true, and it seems as though it's okay.
And we had this facade for the last four years especially,
(25:23):
and I think during COVID it really ramped up. But
this facade of well, maybe not everybody thinks this way,
but certainly if I speak up, I'm I'm gonna get
punished for it.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
It was almost like this weird syndrome that took over
the whole country. And for some reason, you know, somehow
Trump was able to sort of bust that up. I mean,
I saw the rallies. I'd reported on several of them,
and you know, it's it's funny when I see things
that he says and the left freaks out about him,
And I'm like, if you understood the context, you would
also understand that halftime he's joking. He's trolling you right now.
(25:58):
You know, he's trying to get that reaction, and he
sort of told America, hey, it is okay to speak
out against this nonsense. I mean, I think that's his
campaign symbolized in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Absolutely, he took the wet blanket of uncommon nonsense off
of America, and he stopped the momentum of these people
who wanted to transform our culture. I mean, as you said,
if you let something lay out there long enough, if
you enforce it long enough, it eventually just becomes part
of the firmament. That's the liberal plan. That's what they
(26:33):
do to him on narratives. You know, if you tell
people long enough that Russia stole the twenty sixteen election,
people will believe it. And by the way, one whole
political party believes that nonsense. It's the same thing on Epstein. Yeah,
if you tell people long enough that Donald Trump has
something to do with this, people will believe it. That's
their plan. Now, the evidence, as you know, Leland, is
that Trump had nothing to do with it, but a
(26:53):
lot of Democrats might have, but the narrative. So it's
sort of the enforcement of narratives. Did you know you
can wake up in the morning and change your gender? Hey, hey,
did you know that it's more important, you know, what
your race or your gender is than what your talent
level or your work ethic is. If you if you
could enforce these narratives over a long period of time,
(27:15):
you can just sort of make them part of American
culture or America's political firmament. And Trump busted it up.
And you know, there's a lot of non political people
out there who don't think of themselves as partisans at all,
but they cannot stand the enforcement of narratives. And media
does it. Democrats do it, Liberals do it. It's part
of the progressive plan I think to change America.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, I feel out in my bones right now. When
you're you've got an opportunity to meet with the I
know you've spent a lot of time with the President.
You spend a lot of time with them on the campaign.
You you talk with them regularly, but you did get
to go to the White House the other day and
you met with the president. What is he like?
Speaker 3 (27:58):
What was that conversation like, well, it was good to
see him, because when I met with him and pitched
him on the book in February, I said, if you'll
cooperate and work with me here, I'll have this delivered
by the end of the year. And I did it.
And so well, if you.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Tell Trump something like that, you better deliver because it's oh.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
He'll remember. Oh, let me tell you something. I'll give
you a nugget from the book. I interviewed several of
the cabinet members and the one thing I heard from
one of them was, you can tell Donald Trump we're
working on it one time, but if he tells you
to do if he tells you to do something, you
get one chance to say, we're working on it, mister president.
But the second time he asks where it is, it
(28:38):
better be done.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Wow. Yeah that so for me.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
So for me, he knew I was working on this book,
and so to walk in there in November and show
him a copy and say, you know, here's the delivery. Interestingly,
he loves the cover. During the writing process, I didn't
know what to put on the cover. He was a
million photos of him, and so I asked him, you know,
what's your favor photo of you from this first hundred days,
(29:03):
and that's the one he sent back. And so I
handed him the book and he was like, this is
the greatest cover.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
And I said, I know, I know, I said, I
might be a mediocre author, but I'm good at marketing.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Sir, Yeah, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. Well, I doubt you're
You're not a mediocre author, because I've read your stuff.
So let's give us a little insight into the man
that is our president. I mean, Kentucky voted super overwhelmingly
for for for President Trump. Give us some insight into
the man, because you do know him. I was watching
(29:34):
a video of him and Kai, his granddaughter the other
day on the golf course, and it was this like
superhuman moment and it was kind of real, and it
was it, you know, I mean, he's a showman and
the showman had dropped and you were just seeing the
grandpa and I thought, you know, this is the problem
that we've lost in politics, is that we don't see
our political opponents as human beings. Here he is just
(29:56):
chatting with his with his granddaughter about her dreams and
what he wants to do next, and what he will
do after he's president, and all this kind of stuff
give us some insight into the man away from the lights.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, I think you raise an interesting observation about caricatures.
I experienced this with President Bush when I work for him.
The caricature of the media portrayal of these people is
often completely wrong, and it's done to make you feel
poorly about them. With Donald Trump, the caricature would be
of some honery mean person who doesn't listen and is
(30:28):
the opposite of warm, and honestly, I found that to
be completely and totally false. This man is warm, He
is hospitable. He is funny. I mean he is funny, dude,
like in person, this guy is funny. He's a professional
tal snapper, but he's solicitous. I watched him meet with
his advisers and his cabinet members. He solicits opinions. He's
a great listener, he listens to everything, and he has
(30:52):
his people sort of hash these issues out in front
of him. He asks good questions, but he absorbs these
debates and he absorb orbes this back and forth, and
then he's very decisive, which is not like Biden. Biden
was famously indecisive, and that leads to weakness, but being
a good listener and being decisive leads to strength. But personally,
this guy, he's solicitous and he's hospitable. You know, he's
(31:14):
from the hospitality industry. He's forever asking people, you know,
are you thirsty? Can I get you this? Can I
get you that? You know, he gave me the hat
off his head once for my own dad. He was like,
do you want my head? I said no, but my
dad would love it. The guy took the hat off
his own head and signed it for my dad. And
so he's really he's really engaging. And you know, Bill Maher,
who's not a huge Trump fan, but you know, had
(31:35):
dinner with him a few months ago. He came away
thinking the same thing, like, look, you know, I like
Donald Trump. He's actually okay to talk to and he's
pretty fun and engaging guy. But you know, the media
caricature is the opposite of that. And of course they
do that for a reason, because they're trying to grind
a political acts instead of tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, all right, before I let you go quick two
quick questions. One, I want to go back to the
Epstein thing real quick. You mentioned and you know they're
bending over backwards. I thought it was funny that the
only email that they presented that mentioned Trump was actually
Epstein whining about Trump kicking him out of MARLOCKO. So
I mean, yes, there's no there there because they would
(32:13):
have released it in the last four years. Is this
about to be troubled waters for the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I think they have blundered into a major problem, which
is we're going to find out just how tight in
Epstein was to several senior Democrats. We already see it.
Larry Summers is now his life is wrecked over it.
Hakeem Jefferies was fundraising with Epstein. Epstein was programming a
member of Congress, Stacy Plaskett. That won't be the last example.
I mean, remember something like ninety percent of Epstein's political
(32:41):
donations went to Democrats, and he hated Trump. Trump excommunicated Epstein.
Epstein hated Trump, and Trump got rid of him, but
the Democrats never did. They never got rid of this guy,
and we're going to find out the depths of it.
I think they've made a major mistake. I mean, Republicans
kind of called their bluff on it, but now they
got to.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Live with it, so you see what happened.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, and I think it's good for the country that
these are coming out. Last thing, What do you hope
people get from your book? A Revolution of Common Sense?
How Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization.
It's available on Amazon. The hardcover is only twenty bucks.
I love it. What do you hope people get out
of this? Please read it?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
By the way, Yeah, look, I want people it's kind
of history book. I want people to understand how consequential
the first one hundred days of his presidency was. When
you're a Republican president, You've got the media, the Democrats,
and the entrench federal bureaucracy trying to stop you. They
try to overwhelm you, and Donald Trump said, Nope, I'm
going to overwhelm them.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
And it is a story of how a Republican president
refused to take what normally happens to Republicans lying down.
He hit Washington before it ever got out of bed,
and it had a consequential result for our country.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
He was much more ready this time, wasn't he?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
He was reready well, was ready to.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Get don't want to give away too much. But what's
the number one accomplishment you think he had in that
first one hundred days. Was it doze or was it
something else?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
A dose consequential? But to me it's by far immigration. Yeah,
the border is closed, yep, we're enforcing federal law and
it's still I mean today, we haven't had a federal
an illegal crossing in five months. I mean, it's amazing
what the guy did. So no, it's and that was
the number one thing he promised when he first started
running ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, and so he is.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's amazing. So it's immigration to me.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Well, thanks for taking a little minute or two out
of your crazy busy book schedule, your book tour. Can't
wait to get my hands on it and read it
all the way through cover to cover. Appreciate you, Scott,
You're the man. Thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Thanks Leland, take care of Bell all right.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Brother, awesome. Thanks so much for letting me sit in
for Tony and Dwight today. It's always a fun time
to be on whas feels like it's at home. Can
follow me on Twitter it's at Leland's show or Gavin
Newsom's hair. That's my Twitter Twitter handle it's Gavin Newsom's hair,
so check it out. I'm also on Instagram at Great
Lelando and on Facebook under Leland Conway. Good to see you,
(34:53):
good to talk to you. Thanks so much for your time.
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