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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And so Tonya Dwight show, Leland Conway sitting in. I
just got a text from Tony and he thanks you
guys for helping to raise money for their bail because
that bank robbery heist they did this morning didn't go
as well as planned. I have not heard from Dwight.
He might be in solitary confinement, just saying Leland Conway
sitting in. It's you can follow along on Twitter slash
(00:22):
Exit's at Leland Show. Just listening to the story there
at the top of the hour about the AI bear.
We were talking about this on my regular show last
night in San Diego. So this is a teddy bear
of some sort that is powered by AI and so
it's designed to have like conversations with your kids. And
(00:42):
then they found out that the thing was talking to
them about sex and telling them where to find the knives,
like like freaking chucky, right, like go find a knife
in the kitchen, right, like you know, like what are
you doing? Like where did this? There was obviously no
safety parameters put on this thing. It was using chat
(01:03):
GPT and in California there's a lawsuit a young man
committed suicide after open AI's chatbot essentially allegedly encouraged him
along with his plan to off himself. Another situation similar
to that using a different AI chatbot down in Florida
(01:25):
and there are lawsuits pending. I use chat GPT all
the time. It's revolutionized my email game. I will if
I in my business, if I if I want to
meet with somebody that I'm having trouble getting a meeting with,
I'll I'll put an email together and say, you know,
make this concise and professional and use it that like,
(01:46):
make it something that will grab their attention based on
what you know about this individual. You know, because you
can take some information from LinkedIn and it's worked. It's awesome,
but it's also really terrifying. And the reality is that
it's eroding the job market in a lot of ways.
And it's a lot of people thought AI was going
to lead to like massive automation, and it really hasn't.
(02:07):
I mean, automation is happening, but it's really led to
a lot of white collar jobs being outsourced to AI
because a lot of the you know, if you go
back to the movie office space, right, like I deal
with the people man, like what would you say you
do here at inn at tech, I take the TPS
reports to the engineer right so like it can really
weed out a lot of that stuff. And right now
(02:29):
it's been cited so far for forty eight four hundred
and fourteen job cuts that have been announced in the
US so far this year, replaced by AI. Joining me
on the line now is Dante King. He's a human
resource management consultant and is paying very close attention to
this AI world. And Dante, it's it's I think a
(02:51):
lot of people are starting to wake up now because
we're getting to the point where we can't tell certain videos,
even political videos apart. We can't tell if something we're
watching on Instagram is real. And we're getting to the
point now where a lot of busy work in the
offices can be done, a lot of shuffling papers can
be done by AI, and it's going to change the
(03:14):
job market. What are you seeing in this trend and
how should people be prepared?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, a few things, and thank you for having me,
so I think people need to be concerned or considering
rather that if large portions of the work that they
do involve like pattern recognition or tasks that are repeatable
or predictable and decision making. They need to understand that,
you know, AI tools such as chat, GPT can do
(03:45):
those tasks much faster and cheaper than the human being.
And so to your point, there are a lot of
white collar jobs that are at risk, such as administrative
and clerical roles, roles in banking, finance, and compliance, and
I don't think we've seen anything like this before. So
people should be auditing their their job tasks and breaking
(04:06):
their work into categories such as tasks that a machine
can do or versus tasks that only a human being
could potentially do, as well as tasks that maybe AI
tools can help complete faster or accelerate. And then people
need to be upskilling into areas that AI can't replace.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, like I guess more of the creative arts, but
I fear that even that's coming. You know. It's interesting
because I'm a pretty good writer. I excel that English
and communication in school, tested out of it, Like in
my sophomore year of high school, I was done with
all my English work, and very quickly the same in college.
So it's the area of communication is something that of
(04:50):
the very few talents that I have, it's the one
thing I can do and what. But but then when
I put these emails that I write that I think
are professional and well done, I put it in a AI,
you know, chatbot, and I'm like, holy crap, this is
like a thousand times better than I did. And that
kind of bothers me. I'm like, I was a pretty
(05:11):
good writer until this. You know, I'm not even sure
the creative part of jobs is going to be off
limits for AI going into the future, right, because, I mean,
the movie industry is already dealing with this. We just
saw a deal the other day that was done where
Matthew McConaughey gave his voice over to a company that's
(05:33):
going to be building out a newsletter for him, but
it's going to be doing it in another language using
his actual voice. We're right on the cusp, And I
don't know, dude, have you seen the Have you seen
the on YouTube? The the fifty what Up gangs to
like Redone as like fifty soul music. Have you seen that? No, dude,
(05:53):
You've got to have it up. You've got to look
it up. It's like the Joe Rogan was talking about
the other day. I looked it up and I was like,
I was thump into this thing in my truck down
the highway. I'm like, this is really good. So they
took a fifty set rap song, the song what Up Gangster,
they put it through AI and told it to basically
make it a like fifties and sixties soul music version
(06:16):
of it. Dude, it's it's unbelievable. And you can't tell
that it's not a human It scares the crap out
of me. Three of the top country songs for downloads
right now are not even a real human being.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Wow, that's that's just incredible. It really is, you know,
and it's and I come from more of a corporate background,
so you know, I was thinking about, you know, down
here where the everyday working people are, but you know, leadership,
maybe conflict management, facilitation, but just kind of developing in
(06:53):
areas where you know, you actually meet people versus you know,
application and tools. But I agree with you because I
myself have written two books. I have always been highly
complimented about my writing skills and abilities, and when I
started using AI till a few years ago, I'm like, hey,
(07:15):
you know, just polish this message, make it sound more professional.
And the messages are incredibly just extraordinary I'm like, wait
a minute, I'm already a great writer, you know, so
I can actually absolutely relate.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's I'm kind of jealous of it, to
be honest with you, which bothers me because these emotions
that I have about AI, it's not right. But I
think that's that's part of the other side of this too,
that that's you know, we can I guess, I would say,
and I'd love to get your thoughts on this when
we're talking with Dante Kingy's former learning development Director of
(07:51):
Workforce JP Morgan Chase hr management consultant. The thing we
can do right now probably as members of the workforce though,
and this is this is where chat GBT has been
to My advantage is it has made me more successful
on a business perspective, so we can use it as
(08:11):
a tool to make us more successful, Like if you
have a job and it can make you faster so
that you can do those human things more and more effectively.
I guess that's the advantage to it for the time being, right,
maybe short lived, but yeah, for now for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You know, one thing I will say is AI is
not the enemy. I think the danger is just being
unprepared and people do have the ability to future proof
their careers by doing the job auditing, by learning, to
your point, how to partner with AI and use it
(08:48):
to make themselves and more successful and to be able
to accomplish things quicker and in a more concrete manner,
but also in investing in the humans and your skills
that remain irreplaceable. The workers that are able to adapt
will be the ones that thrive because although AI is
(09:09):
not here to take every job, but it is here
to take every task it can, so to speak, you know,
And so I just see people have to try and
prepare themselves the best way that they can.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, well, and they already have. There are already AI
radio DJs, right, And I don't know, I don't know
if it's capable yet of doing a talk show because
that's more personality driven and nuanced. Right. But I can't
imagine as as leaps and bounds as this technology grows
and quickly. I can't imagine that that that is off
(09:42):
limits to it in the future, right, which is also
scaring of itself. Well, Dante, thanks for your time, We
appreciate it, Thanks for your insight on this issue. Thank
you all right, have a good with Dante King. So
there's a couple of thoughts that I have about this that.
First of all, I will say I'm not gonna say
AI is the enemy, but i will say that I
feel like it's the next Oppenheimer moment, right like we
(10:07):
we opened the Pandora's box when we invented the nuclear bomb,
and the thought process was we have to do this
or an evil person will do it and then we're
all dead, which is true. I think this is the
same right we have to do AI or China, communist
China will get it, you know, and destroy us all
and create like one big authoritarian, you know, government, and
(10:30):
that's not acceptable. So clearly we have to view ourselves
as the good guys and do this. But in the meantime,
I was watching this video, this documentary last night on
I'm sorry, no, it wasn't a documentary. As a class,
I'm getting everything all confused. I've been in classes watching documentaries.
I don't know. I've been busy lately. So I was.
We were in a class, a business acumen class that
I was taking, and they were telling the story of
(10:53):
Henry Ford and Henry Ford basically he said, if if
I had asked my customers what they wanted. At the beginning,
they would have set a faster, faster horse. They didn't
know what a car was, right, And a lot of
people point to well, AI is no different than the
automotive revolution, right, because we didn't have cars. Obviously, after
(11:16):
we created cars with any blacksmiths anymore, a lot of
careers were destroyed. Blah blah blah. I don't think it's
the same. And here's why. If you look at pictures,
like cars came on the scene, like maybe initially invented
like the eighteen eighties, they didn't become really regular until
probably the nineteen fifteen or sixteen. It was Henry Ford
(11:38):
that made them affordable to all people. But there was
about a thirty year transition period from everything is horses
to a while now we have cars. And then even
you can look at pictures of New York in nineteen
fifteen you can still see a mix of cars and horses,
and so this was like a twenty five thirty five
forty year transition over to cars. And obviously cars changed
(12:01):
the world. Right, this is happening like in three four
five years. That's the problem, right, this is taking jobs
in a short period of time. That's the problem, and
so it's it's important that we think about, like, what
are we gonna do with this, because it's either gonna
be our digital overlord. I mean, Elon Musk says that
(12:23):
we're gonna every Basically, it's gonna eliminate poverty because everybody
will just work if they want to, but not if
they don't. And with AI doing literally everything, including surgeries,
we're gonna have the best healthcare and it's gonna be free.
That's what Elon says, if you believe him. But I
think we'll use it to destroy ourselves before then. But
(12:43):
in the meantime, this is how you can prepare, right,
I'm seriously, go to YouTube right now and do yourself
a faith. Well, don't do it now, do it after
we're done with the show. Stay on the show. But
then after we're done with the show, go to YouTube.
Look up what Up? Just go search what Up? Gangsta
fifty fifties and sixties soul version. It's going to freaking
(13:08):
blow your mind. Leland Conway in for Tony and Dwight.
News Radio eight forty wahas Leland Conway sitting in for
Tony and Dwight. You can follow along on Twitter Slash
Exit's at Leland's show l E, l A and D.
We're on Instagram at Great Lelando and Facebook Leland Conway.
So just talking about this AI thing, it's it's it's
(13:31):
really it's inevitable. That's the thing is like, so we're
gonna have to figure out how to adapt to it.
And there's a lot of scary stories. There's a lot
of positive stories too, Like I was listening to one
interview with a healthcare company that is trying to go
against you know, buck the buck the stream from big
Pharma and like really deliver really solid good healthcare to people.
(13:51):
And they're using AI and they can you know, put
in a lot of stuff that a lot of information
is this thing kind of calls in from from across
the globe. The other side of it though. The other
danger to this, though, is that it's not always right.
AI is not always correct because it's only as good
as So there's two types of AI, right, Like there's
(14:12):
artificial intelligence as we know it through chat GYBT that's
not really AI. It's really just a large language model,
that's what it is. And what does a large language
model do? It basically sucks up a lot of power.
This is the reason why Bill Gates, by the way,
has suddenly decided global warming isn't that bad because he's
(14:35):
getting into AI and he needs like nuclear power plants
to power he needs massive amounts of electricity to power
his AI, and so suddenly, knowing he's going to have
to use fossil fuels to do that, he suddenly decided
he's not on the hoax of global warming bandwagon anymore.
But anyway, basically, a large language model, all it does
(14:56):
is it just crawls the Internet at a super high
speed and it pulls information in from across that. Well,
how much stuff have you seen on the Internet that's wrong? Right,
So there's still reports of people getting stuff wrong because
the AI large language model can only be as accurate
as it's programmed to be, which is a problem because
(15:18):
that's where political bias comes into play and lack of
knowledge or wrong knowledge or whatever. I mean, my god,
what would it be like if AI only learned from Wikipedia.
That's terrifying, right, So there's that problem. But there's another
type of AI, which is actually the idea of sentient
(15:38):
artificial intelligence. This would be something that acts and operates
with a will of its own. And I've heard stories
that that kind of stuff is either right on the
cusp of happening or it is happening, and the two
are related. The large language model is kind of like
the engine for the ultimate sentient, artificial intelligent being. That's
(16:00):
when it gets terrifying, because that's when however that is
programmed but released, similar to way your genetics and your
spouse's genetics come together to create your baby, and then
your baby is unleashed on the world, and while it
has parts of you and parts of your spouse, it
(16:22):
is its own being with its own will, and it
becomes a human person that has its own will. This
is kind of like AI is gonna have whatever biases
are built into its creator from the genetics of whoever
you know what I'm saying, the person who programs it.
But then when it becomes sentient, then it's out on
its own, and that's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
So I see this as our new Oppenheimer moment. It's basically,
up until now, it's been inevitable that we were gonna
blow ourselves up with nuclear bombs. It just at some point,
right some point, crazy people are gonna gonna take over.
The society that we know and feel safe in right
now is gonna be gone, and we're gonna blow ourselves up. Well, now,
we just gave ourselves another option. So now we have
(17:02):
two human suicide tools. Right, we can either blow ourselves
up with a nuclear weapon, or we can destroy ourselves
with the AI Overlord. I don't know which one will
be more pleasant, but they're coming. But in the meantime,
the most millionaires ever created in a single period of
time are coming up in the next five years because
of AI. So take advantage of it, get to know it,
use it to your advantage, and then maybe you can
(17:22):
just retire and live on a yacht in the Mediterranean
while the rest of the world burns. Maybe that's going
to be That's optimistic, isn't it coming up? Apparently the
crew here at WHAS has decided to torture me again
with this little thing that Tony and Dwight do called
reeling in the years. I am terrible at this game,
(17:42):
but they have told me that I have to play it,
so we'll do that when we continue. But I will
not take this humiliation laying down. I have a little
surprise for those who plot against me. Just hang on.
It's news radio eight forty whas it was ninety one.
(18:08):
Thank you, Thank you, John Shannon, So you have a
little surprise for him, Leland, I do okay, I am
not gonna take this humiliation sitting down. I'm gonna spring
this on Gus and John. Oh. Name the country song
and its rankings on the chart.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh okay, I get this, then beat down, but I
don't stay low.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Thought you said country got mud on my jean.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Still ready to go. Every scars a story that I survived,
not been through hell, but I'm still alone. This is
slow down, boy, don't go to fans. But I ain't
never been one to live in the past.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I keep this is country in America.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
This is America.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Like country in Canada.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Oh oh, oh oh, this is Oh. I know what
this is. I was wondering. I know that's the first one.
What is it? It's that it's that AI group break.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
And that's why it's not great country.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's how I huh, that's AI. This one, by the way,
this one is too This one is too.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Saw the instruments and everything.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
One and number three on the country download charts aren't
even real people.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Now see the second one that was playing sounded more
like a country song that I could see adding to
the rotation.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It did. Actually the the walk My Walk one that
I just played is called by a group called well,
there's no group. It's by an AI machine called Breaking Rust.
The other one's Caine Walker, which is also AI game.
Yeah the name, Yeah, that's a good that sounds like
a real name too. But the top three country download
songs right now are AI. Can you believe that?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Wow? Wild?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
So none of that, not even an ounce of that
was anything with an instrument.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's all AI. And you guys when we get to
when we go on commercial break here, I want you
both to go look up fifty What up Gangs to
fifty sixties AI version. It'll blow your freaking mind. Okay,
it'll blow your freaking mind.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
That must be a really cool concert to go to
for the AI stuff. Hey, come on out, there's a
laptop on a chair. We're gonna watch now.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
They use hotow.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
If they were smart, they'd use holograms.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's right, with just a bunch of dancing ladies around
the laptop or an iPhone, which you know they've gotten
there in a spotlight.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
They got an app and I've played with it here
in the office before I could write my own country song.
You put in the parameters of what you want, in
the style of what it's about, and it will crank
out any song. And I played with the couple. Yes,
I played with the call send you the link email,
but I played around with it, and it cranked out
a country song. That is someone who's been a music
director in country music before I would have added it.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, you guys, blew my surprise. I would have gotten
away with it if it wasn't meddling kids.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
How do we know this isn't Ai Leland.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's a goot.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
I am not real well no, no, he didn't know
any of the tunes, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
That's clearly heye on, my god, Yeah we got good point.
Good point. You guys suck.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
We love you too, buddy.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Oh my god. See, I knew this was going to
be humiliation and Courtney Donahoe already taking pot shots on
me on social media. So there we go. We'll get
to you coming up. Counselman Kevin Bratcher is going to
join us. Were talking about roundabouts today. Next, I'm Leland
Conway in for Tony and Dwight. News Radio eight forty
w a a s
And so Tonya Dwight show, Leland Conway sitting in. I
just got a text from Tony and he thanks you
guys for helping to raise money for their bail because
that bank robbery heist they did this morning didn't go
as well as planned. I have not heard from Dwight.
He might be in solitary confinement, just saying Leland Conway
sitting in. It's you can follow along on Twitter slash
(00:22):
Exit's at Leland Show. Just listening to the story there
at the top of the hour about the AI bear.
We were talking about this on my regular show last
night in San Diego. So this is a teddy bear
of some sort that is powered by AI and so
it's designed to have like conversations with your kids. And
(00:42):
then they found out that the thing was talking to
them about sex and telling them where to find the knives,
like like freaking chucky, right, like go find a knife
in the kitchen, right, like you know, like what are
you doing? Like where did this? There was obviously no
safety parameters put on this thing. It was using chat
(01:03):
GPT and in California there's a lawsuit a young man
committed suicide after open AI's chatbot essentially allegedly encouraged him
along with his plan to off himself. Another situation similar
to that using a different AI chatbot down in Florida
(01:25):
and there are lawsuits pending. I use chat GPT all
the time. It's revolutionized my email game. I will if
I in my business, if I if I want to
meet with somebody that I'm having trouble getting a meeting with,
I'll I'll put an email together and say, you know,
make this concise and professional and use it that like,
(01:46):
make it something that will grab their attention based on
what you know about this individual. You know, because you
can take some information from LinkedIn and it's worked. It's awesome,
but it's also really terrifying. And the reality is that
it's eroding the job market in a lot of ways.
And it's a lot of people thought AI was going
to lead to like massive automation, and it really hasn't.
(02:07):
I mean, automation is happening, but it's really led to
a lot of white collar jobs being outsourced to AI
because a lot of the you know, if you go
back to the movie office space, right, like I deal
with the people man, like what would you say you
do here at inn at tech, I take the TPS
reports to the engineer right so like it can really
weed out a lot of that stuff. And right now
(02:29):
it's been cited so far for forty eight four hundred
and fourteen job cuts that have been announced in the
US so far this year, replaced by AI. Joining me
on the line now is Dante King. He's a human
resource management consultant and is paying very close attention to
this AI world. And Dante, it's it's I think a
(02:51):
lot of people are starting to wake up now because
we're getting to the point where we can't tell certain videos,
even political videos apart. We can't tell if something we're
watching on Instagram is real. And we're getting to the
point now where a lot of busy work in the
offices can be done, a lot of shuffling papers can
be done by AI, and it's going to change the
(03:14):
job market. What are you seeing in this trend and
how should people be prepared?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, a few things, and thank you for having me,
so I think people need to be concerned or considering
rather that if large portions of the work that they
do involve like pattern recognition or tasks that are repeatable
or predictable and decision making. They need to understand that,
you know, AI tools such as chat, GPT can do
(03:45):
those tasks much faster and cheaper than the human being.
And so to your point, there are a lot of
white collar jobs that are at risk, such as administrative
and clerical roles, roles in banking, finance, and compliance, and
I don't think we've seen anything like this before. So
people should be auditing their their job tasks and breaking
(04:06):
their work into categories such as tasks that a machine
can do or versus tasks that only a human being
could potentially do, as well as tasks that maybe AI
tools can help complete faster or accelerate. And then people
need to be upskilling into areas that AI can't replace.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, like I guess more of the creative arts, but
I fear that even that's coming. You know. It's interesting
because I'm a pretty good writer. I excel that English
and communication in school, tested out of it, Like in
my sophomore year of high school, I was done with
all my English work, and very quickly the same in college.
So it's the area of communication is something that of
(04:50):
the very few talents that I have, it's the one
thing I can do and what. But but then when
I put these emails that I write that I think
are professional and well done, I put it in a AI,
you know, chatbot, and I'm like, holy crap, this is
like a thousand times better than I did. And that
kind of bothers me. I'm like, I was a pretty
(05:11):
good writer until this. You know, I'm not even sure
the creative part of jobs is going to be off
limits for AI going into the future, right, because, I mean,
the movie industry is already dealing with this. We just
saw a deal the other day that was done where
Matthew McConaughey gave his voice over to a company that's
(05:33):
going to be building out a newsletter for him, but
it's going to be doing it in another language using
his actual voice. We're right on the cusp, And I
don't know, dude, have you seen the Have you seen
the on YouTube? The the fifty what Up gangs to
like Redone as like fifty soul music. Have you seen that? No, dude,
(05:53):
You've got to have it up. You've got to look
it up. It's like the Joe Rogan was talking about
the other day. I looked it up and I was like,
I was thump into this thing in my truck down
the highway. I'm like, this is really good. So they
took a fifty set rap song, the song what Up Gangster,
they put it through AI and told it to basically
make it a like fifties and sixties soul music version
(06:16):
of it. Dude, it's it's unbelievable. And you can't tell
that it's not a human It scares the crap out
of me. Three of the top country songs for downloads
right now are not even a real human being.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Wow, that's that's just incredible. It really is, you know,
and it's and I come from more of a corporate background,
so you know, I was thinking about, you know, down
here where the everyday working people are, but you know, leadership,
maybe conflict management, facilitation, but just kind of developing in
(06:53):
areas where you know, you actually meet people versus you know,
application and tools. But I agree with you because I
myself have written two books. I have always been highly
complimented about my writing skills and abilities, and when I
started using AI till a few years ago, I'm like, hey,
(07:15):
you know, just polish this message, make it sound more professional.
And the messages are incredibly just extraordinary I'm like, wait
a minute, I'm already a great writer, you know, so
I can actually absolutely relate.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's I'm kind of jealous of it, to
be honest with you, which bothers me because these emotions
that I have about AI, it's not right. But I
think that's that's part of the other side of this too,
that that's you know, we can I guess, I would say,
and I'd love to get your thoughts on this when
we're talking with Dante Kingy's former learning development Director of
(07:51):
Workforce JP Morgan Chase hr management consultant. The thing we
can do right now probably as members of the workforce though,
and this is this is where chat GBT has been
to My advantage is it has made me more successful
on a business perspective, so we can use it as
(08:11):
a tool to make us more successful, Like if you
have a job and it can make you faster so
that you can do those human things more and more effectively.
I guess that's the advantage to it for the time being, right,
maybe short lived, but yeah, for now for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You know, one thing I will say is AI is
not the enemy. I think the danger is just being
unprepared and people do have the ability to future proof
their careers by doing the job auditing, by learning, to
your point, how to partner with AI and use it
(08:48):
to make themselves and more successful and to be able
to accomplish things quicker and in a more concrete manner,
but also in investing in the humans and your skills
that remain irreplaceable. The workers that are able to adapt
will be the ones that thrive because although AI is
(09:09):
not here to take every job, but it is here
to take every task it can, so to speak, you know,
And so I just see people have to try and
prepare themselves the best way that they can.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, well, and they already have. There are already AI
radio DJs, right, And I don't know, I don't know
if it's capable yet of doing a talk show because
that's more personality driven and nuanced. Right. But I can't
imagine as as leaps and bounds as this technology grows
and quickly. I can't imagine that that that is off
(09:42):
limits to it in the future, right, which is also
scaring of itself. Well, Dante, thanks for your time, We
appreciate it, Thanks for your insight on this issue. Thank
you all right, have a good with Dante King. So
there's a couple of thoughts that I have about this that.
First of all, I will say I'm not gonna say
AI is the enemy, but i will say that I
feel like it's the next Oppenheimer moment, right like we
(10:07):
we opened the Pandora's box when we invented the nuclear bomb,
and the thought process was we have to do this
or an evil person will do it and then we're
all dead, which is true. I think this is the
same right we have to do AI or China, communist
China will get it, you know, and destroy us all
and create like one big authoritarian, you know, government, and
(10:30):
that's not acceptable. So clearly we have to view ourselves
as the good guys and do this. But in the meantime,
I was watching this video, this documentary last night on
I'm sorry, no, it wasn't a documentary. As a class,
I'm getting everything all confused. I've been in classes watching documentaries.
I don't know. I've been busy lately. So I was.
We were in a class, a business acumen class that
I was taking, and they were telling the story of
(10:53):
Henry Ford and Henry Ford basically he said, if if
I had asked my customers what they wanted. At the beginning,
they would have set a faster, faster horse. They didn't
know what a car was, right, And a lot of
people point to well, AI is no different than the
automotive revolution, right, because we didn't have cars. Obviously, after
(11:16):
we created cars with any blacksmiths anymore, a lot of
careers were destroyed. Blah blah blah. I don't think it's
the same. And here's why. If you look at pictures,
like cars came on the scene, like maybe initially invented
like the eighteen eighties, they didn't become really regular until
probably the nineteen fifteen or sixteen. It was Henry Ford
(11:38):
that made them affordable to all people. But there was
about a thirty year transition period from everything is horses
to a while now we have cars. And then even
you can look at pictures of New York in nineteen
fifteen you can still see a mix of cars and horses,
and so this was like a twenty five thirty five
forty year transition over to cars. And obviously cars changed
(12:01):
the world. Right, this is happening like in three four
five years. That's the problem, right, this is taking jobs
in a short period of time. That's the problem, and
so it's it's important that we think about, like, what
are we gonna do with this, because it's either gonna
be our digital overlord. I mean, Elon Musk says that
(12:23):
we're gonna every Basically, it's gonna eliminate poverty because everybody
will just work if they want to, but not if
they don't. And with AI doing literally everything, including surgeries,
we're gonna have the best healthcare and it's gonna be free.
That's what Elon says, if you believe him. But I
think we'll use it to destroy ourselves before then. But
(12:43):
in the meantime, this is how you can prepare, right,
I'm seriously, go to YouTube right now and do yourself
a faith. Well, don't do it now, do it after
we're done with the show. Stay on the show. But
then after we're done with the show, go to YouTube.
Look up what Up? Just go search what Up? Gangsta
fifty fifties and sixties soul version. It's going to freaking
(13:08):
blow your mind. Leland Conway in for Tony and Dwight.
News Radio eight forty wahas Leland Conway sitting in for
Tony and Dwight. You can follow along on Twitter Slash
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We're on Instagram at Great Lelando and Facebook Leland Conway.
So just talking about this AI thing, it's it's it's
(13:31):
really it's inevitable. That's the thing is like, so we're
gonna have to figure out how to adapt to it.
And there's a lot of scary stories. There's a lot
of positive stories too, Like I was listening to one
interview with a healthcare company that is trying to go
against you know, buck the buck the stream from big
Pharma and like really deliver really solid good healthcare to people.
(13:51):
And they're using AI and they can you know, put
in a lot of stuff that a lot of information
is this thing kind of calls in from from across
the globe. The other side of it though. The other
danger to this, though, is that it's not always right.
AI is not always correct because it's only as good
as So there's two types of AI, right, Like there's
(14:12):
artificial intelligence as we know it through chat GYBT that's
not really AI. It's really just a large language model,
that's what it is. And what does a large language
model do? It basically sucks up a lot of power.
This is the reason why Bill Gates, by the way,
has suddenly decided global warming isn't that bad because he's
(14:35):
getting into AI and he needs like nuclear power plants
to power he needs massive amounts of electricity to power
his AI, and so suddenly, knowing he's going to have
to use fossil fuels to do that, he suddenly decided
he's not on the hoax of global warming bandwagon anymore.
But anyway, basically, a large language model, all it does
(14:56):
is it just crawls the Internet at a super high
speed and it pulls information in from across that. Well,
how much stuff have you seen on the Internet that's wrong? Right,
So there's still reports of people getting stuff wrong because
the AI large language model can only be as accurate
as it's programmed to be, which is a problem because
(15:18):
that's where political bias comes into play and lack of
knowledge or wrong knowledge or whatever. I mean, my god,
what would it be like if AI only learned from Wikipedia.
That's terrifying, right, So there's that problem. But there's another
type of AI, which is actually the idea of sentient
(15:38):
artificial intelligence. This would be something that acts and operates
with a will of its own. And I've heard stories
that that kind of stuff is either right on the
cusp of happening or it is happening, and the two
are related. The large language model is kind of like
the engine for the ultimate sentient, artificial intelligent being. That's
(16:00):
when it gets terrifying, because that's when however that is
programmed but released, similar to way your genetics and your
spouse's genetics come together to create your baby, and then
your baby is unleashed on the world, and while it
has parts of you and parts of your spouse, it
(16:22):
is its own being with its own will, and it
becomes a human person that has its own will. This
is kind of like AI is gonna have whatever biases
are built into its creator from the genetics of whoever
you know what I'm saying, the person who programs it.
But then when it becomes sentient, then it's out on
its own, and that's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
So I see this as our new Oppenheimer moment. It's basically,
up until now, it's been inevitable that we were gonna
blow ourselves up with nuclear bombs. It just at some point,
right some point, crazy people are gonna gonna take over.
The society that we know and feel safe in right
now is gonna be gone, and we're gonna blow ourselves up. Well, now,
we just gave ourselves another option. So now we have
(17:02):
two human suicide tools. Right, we can either blow ourselves
up with a nuclear weapon, or we can destroy ourselves
with the AI Overlord. I don't know which one will
be more pleasant, but they're coming. But in the meantime,
the most millionaires ever created in a single period of
time are coming up in the next five years because
of AI. So take advantage of it, get to know it,
use it to your advantage, and then maybe you can
(17:22):
just retire and live on a yacht in the Mediterranean
while the rest of the world burns. Maybe that's going
to be That's optimistic, isn't it coming up? Apparently the
crew here at WHAS has decided to torture me again
with this little thing that Tony and Dwight do called
reeling in the years. I am terrible at this game,
(17:42):
but they have told me that I have to play it,
so we'll do that when we continue. But I will
not take this humiliation laying down. I have a little
surprise for those who plot against me. Just hang on.
It's news radio eight forty whas it was ninety one.
(18:08):
Thank you, Thank you, John Shannon, So you have a
little surprise for him, Leland, I do okay, I am
not gonna take this humiliation sitting down. I'm gonna spring
this on Gus and John. Oh. Name the country song
and its rankings on the chart.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh okay, I get this, then beat down, but I
don't stay low.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Thought you said country got mud on my jean.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Still ready to go. Every scars a story that I survived,
not been through hell, but I'm still alone. This is
slow down, boy, don't go to fans. But I ain't
never been one to live in the past.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I keep this is country in America.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
This is America.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Like country in Canada.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Oh oh, oh oh, this is Oh. I know what
this is. I was wondering. I know that's the first one.
What is it? It's that it's that AI group break.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
And that's why it's not great country.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's how I huh, that's AI. This one, by the way,
this one is too This one is too.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Saw the instruments and everything.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
One and number three on the country download charts aren't
even real people.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Now see the second one that was playing sounded more
like a country song that I could see adding to
the rotation.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It did. Actually the the walk My Walk one that
I just played is called by a group called well,
there's no group. It's by an AI machine called Breaking Rust.
The other one's Caine Walker, which is also AI game.
Yeah the name, Yeah, that's a good that sounds like
a real name too. But the top three country download
songs right now are AI. Can you believe that?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Wow? Wild?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
So none of that, not even an ounce of that
was anything with an instrument.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's all AI. And you guys when we get to
when we go on commercial break here, I want you
both to go look up fifty What up Gangs to
fifty sixties AI version. It'll blow your freaking mind. Okay,
it'll blow your freaking mind.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
That must be a really cool concert to go to
for the AI stuff. Hey, come on out, there's a
laptop on a chair. We're gonna watch now.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
They use hotow.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
If they were smart, they'd use holograms.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's right, with just a bunch of dancing ladies around
the laptop or an iPhone, which you know they've gotten
there in a spotlight.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
They got an app and I've played with it here
in the office before I could write my own country song.
You put in the parameters of what you want, in
the style of what it's about, and it will crank
out any song. And I played with the couple. Yes,
I played with the call send you the link email,
but I played around with it, and it cranked out
a country song. That is someone who's been a music
director in country music before I would have added it.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, you guys, blew my surprise. I would have gotten
away with it if it wasn't meddling kids.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
How do we know this isn't Ai Leland.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's a goot.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
I am not real well no, no, he didn't know
any of the tunes, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
That's clearly heye on, my god, Yeah we got good point.
Good point. You guys suck.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
We love you too, buddy.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Oh my god. See, I knew this was going to
be humiliation and Courtney Donahoe already taking pot shots on
me on social media. So there we go. We'll get
to you coming up. Counselman Kevin Bratcher is going to
join us. Were talking about roundabouts today. Next, I'm Leland
Conway in for Tony and Dwight. News Radio eight forty
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