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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to News Radio eight forty whas is eleven
o'clock on the dot. We are waiting for a press
conference with our partner's WLKY. We will have the entire
press conference right here. The press conference is an update
on obviously the incident that happened last night at Muhammad
Ali International Airport. Creig Greenberger across the Louisville Mayor. They've
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got the airport authority officials there. I think you'll get
answers on how fast the airport will open or not.
The louis Metro Emergency Service, that's Jody Myman. He was
in control last night. He will try to will his
job will be to describe and tell us what is
going on at the crash site. And then Okalona Fire Department,
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which was first on scene last night to control it.
And it was an immense fire that just was not
going out like a plane crash with all that fuel,
you think, okay, the fuel just burns out. It hit
a Trollium company and it just kept going. And it
was from the thirty two ok Why Chopper Dwight. It
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looked like it was like white hot, like you could
see the red right, you could see the fire of
the red but it was just white hot. It wasn't yellow,
its white. And you're thinking the immense heat in that situation.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And the pictures in the videos where you see because again,
this goes I'm going to say, over a city block long.
And it's just you made the analogy this morning off
the air when we were talking trying to describe it
as napalm, and that's really what it looked like because
it's just destruction and flames. It just went up instantaneously.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And as a matter of fact, that's what napalm is
made out of gasoline.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean, it's absolutely horrific. And more video starts to surface,
more pictures start to surface, and it's just worse and
worse and more and more devastating. But again, waiting on
a press conference right now at the time, is it
I think we know the tot is nine at this time.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It went from seven to nine this morning. That doesn't
include the two that are in critical condition at University Hospital.
There are sixteen still missing, which makes all of our
hearts sort of take pause here.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, and by the way, if you want to get
in touch with UPS family members seeking information from UPS,
UPS has released this number, it's eight hundred six three
one zero six oh four. Again, family members seeking information
from UPS, that number is eight hundred sixty three one
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zero six oh four, and also from UPS. You would
already know this by now, but I'll say it anyway. UPS.
Second day air sort at Worldport has been canceled. If
you're a HUB or you're a RAP employee on second
day air, you should absolutely not report to work.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
If you want information on Standardford Field, go to the
Twitter account or x account fly Louisville at fly Louisville,
or go to fly Loeuisville dot com. A lot of
people obviously very busy. I told a story last night.
I picked up Jackie a couple of weeks ago on
a Tuesday night. It was eleven forty five, it was midnight,
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and there were a thousand people at the airport. There
was barely any It was jam packed at midnight on
a Tuesday, and there was barely any place to park.
I had to park on the fourth floor, you know,
all the way to the top because there was no
parking spots. And I couldn't believe, you know, the restaurants
were still open inside the airport. Everyone was running around
it was. It was a crazy amount of people and
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it felt like the middle. It felt like eleven am,
not eleven pm. At the airport now, I think if
you haven't been out of there, because there's some people
like our producer that has never been on a plane.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
No, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I've been on a plane in fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh in fifteen years, yes, right, for my perfect example,
if you haven't been to the airport in fifteen years,
it is a much different airport and it is much
busier than and you remember, this is just part of
our lives that America has to We fly everywhere. I
mean the amount of flights. If you've ever pulled up
one of those trackers.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh yeah, no, that's really creepy to see when you
just get firefly, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It's crazy. We will go to the press conference. It
was promised at eleven o'clock, but a lot of times
these things goes just a couple of minutes over. We
will take that press conference in its entirety. We have
Paul Miles from WHAS Radio on scene. He will be
there to ask some questions. At the end. I would
assume they're going to do Q and any you.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Would almost think they have to. And again, a lot
of the show this morning, we've been because this is
a horrible situation, I mean, granted, but we've been reflecting
on how worse this could have been. It is densely populated,
especially at five o'clock. We're talking to the expressways. Oh yeah,
sixty five and two sixty four. They merge right there
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at Fern Valley, and rush hour traffic is horrible there.
That's one area could have hit a Louis assembly plant.
It hit dangerously close to that, also Stooge's Bar, Guerrilla.
There's so many businesses out there that it could have
been far worse. But again, we did lose non lives
and that's expected to possibly climb unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, we've been saying that all day. The nose of
the plane was already up. They were past the v
V point, which is a velocity obviously says you cannot stop. Now,
you have to take off if it gets any altitude
to what you just mentioned. This conversation is much different
if it hits the Ford plant, or if it hits
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neighborhoods or anything over in that direction, including what you
said the expressways. I mean, how many I find myself
on the expressway looking at the airport ten times a week.
So I mean, it is what it is, and I
guarantee you there's so many witnesses that looked out their
window and saw that that flame go up as it was.
We also got a caller that was cutting his grass
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close to the airport and says his eyes were burning,
his lungs were burning. His neighbors suggested, why don't you
go on in.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Uh he said he could still taste it in his
mouth this morning. Yes, I'm assuming that's what the sheltering
place was. And then you came in last night and
brought up a great point of the air conditioning units
to turn the turn it off. I mean, I'm just
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I'm at a loss for words on the whole situation.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Thank god, everybody at Stooges was okay. According to the
second source, the owner said the bar was packed.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'm just not surprised because I mean, it's people get
off work at ups, people get off work at Louis
Assembly Plant. And those are only two businesses that are
out there. U A w has a Oh, there's a
ton of business. And there's tons and tons and tons
of businesses out there.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And that's back back where you go down that road,
and you would know more than I that is the
entrance for the employees to ups right, it's just Stooges.
And then right before that is that that entrance right
where they go.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It's been decades since I've been there. Right, it's pretty close.
You wouldn't go down where Stooges is. You would go
the opposite direction. Instid of taking a left and going
down towards Stooges, you would take a right. That's when
I worked out there at least. But again, so many
businesses there, and one of the businesses were told that
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the star time is now going to be around eleven
fifteen for this press conference.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oka just a couple minutes away.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, let's take a book.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Okay, let's hear that so we can clear this time. Yes,
and we'll continue with our comments and we'll have Paul
Miles live on site after the press conference. Back after
this to Tony and Dwight Show on news Radio eight
forty w h.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Bill Collins or Genesis. I never know, it does sound
very similar, I never know.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
All Right, we are just a couple of seconds away
from this press conference again down at the airport. We're
gonna get the up to date information on pretty much everything.
Craig Greenberg will speak. He was out of town last night,
got back around eight eight thirty last night. The airport
authority will talk. I think we're gonna find out whether
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the airport is going to open or not more open
because it's got there. There are passengers there, which is
an amazing story to me. Louisville Metro Emergency Service, you
know Jody's he's in charge down there, so he'll tell
us about the crash site and then Oklhona Fire Department
about how this thing went down at the beginning there.
I'm looking up Louisville Metro TV right now because we're
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gonna carry this as as it unfolds.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Here.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
They rarely. It looks like they are just seconds away.
They are reporters there. It's the same room that they
ended up in last night. It's got a clear podium
with the ALI symbol, the butterfly like symbol of the
airport there, and they're doing some mic tests as we speak,
So we are going to find out. It really is
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amazing that they actually are operating in some capacity out there.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah. I had friends that were out of town trying
to get back to Louisville last night, and looked like
for the most part most of them called an audible
and they had to fly into Nashville and drive in
or Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And driving right, I would think Cincinnati probably is well
depends I mean right right, sure what direction is coming
from and how many people are how many planes at
that late hour are scheduled to go to Louisville, Kentucky
as this happened at five point twenty in the afternoon,
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But it looks like they they are running flights out
of Stanford Field, which surprised me. But they may be
opening up more. And NTSB is on sen what twenty
five people that they sent it last night that the
mayor estimated that he heard twenty eight, which I asked Paul,
because the mayor even said that is a very large
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group of NTSB. That's the fence they come in and
they take over. I asked Paul because he was at
the crash in Lexington a couple of years ago, and
he said, yes, it didn't seem like that was that
many at that crash team. But he also said something interesting.
They were allowed as reporters on the crash site the
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next day, and that situation was just heartbreaking because they
just chose the wrong runway and they didn't have enough
runway to take off of the size of plane that
they had in Lexington. And that's really the last you
know significant Obviously, smaller planes fall out of the sky
all the time, and accidents happened with these cessnas all
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the time. A couple of years ago, the lu City,
remember went down in southern Indiana. Because there is a
field in Clarksville, there is Bowman Field, they can probably
direct these smaller planes that were landing because I don't
think people realize how many of those private jets land
at Louisville all the time. I mean all day long.
They have a separate sort of airport there, not airport,
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but they have a separate hub there where you go through.
I used to go through there when I covered U
of L and I would fly with the team. That's
where we would go out. I bet you they're just
diverting to Bowman Field. And we were just there a
couple of weeks ago with Bowmanfest. What a fantastic operation
that is.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
From Captain Bob really did a dear friend of the
show and by the way, for ups pilot says, it
completely impossible for anyone that's been directly involved with the
post crash and TSB investigation to comprehend the complexity of
this investigation. And they can take up to a year
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or more. But think about that, all right, They take
all these pieces and they are reassembled.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I think that's a good point that the initial investigation,
right is like two weeks, but you don't get answers
those for a while.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
There's a reconstruction process. And by the way, Captain Bob
he I believe he was involved. When Steve, the other
crew member that we had on earlier, mentioned the crashing Dubai,
I believe Captain Bob was there.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
John John, our boss, just sent us an update.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Louisville fire spokesman says they now anticipate a noon start
on the briefing of coursetead of Now.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Okay, all right, so they're waiting on someone to get
down there, and I don't know who that is. Obviously,
everyone is super busy on what's going on. Five seven, one, eight,
four eighty four is the phone number. Please give us
a call. We've had some I'm always proud of our listeners.
On news radio eight forty w h as the Charlie
Kirk situation you happen to be out at that time.
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I took calls for two straight days and they were
all very just intelligent and thoughtful phone calls. And and
that's what we've taken today. And the amount of people
that are engineers or have worked on these planes that
are worked at ups. The most heartbreaking, of course, is
your friend Steve that mentioned he had had coffee with
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that pilot of that plane a month ago in Honolulu, uh,
and did not get confirmation until he was landed in
Georgia last night.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Steve and I have been friends for years and years
and years, and and uh, when I found out the
route was too Honolulu, and I knew that was it
hits you. It was such is such a.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You didn't know at that point, whether or not I
didn't know. I think there's a lot of stories like
that from last night.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
There is.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I believe we have a call.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, let's go to Jethro Jethrow, you're online.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Too, Hey, Tony, Hey, Dwight, Hey Jro, Hey, buddy. Uh. Yeah,
my heart builds out that everybody affected with this situation.
But I'm telling you, this could have been on such
a worse, higher level tragedy than it was because if
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you think south, if they were just a mile or
two more south a give or take east or west.
Also you have.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Sixty five Fairdale.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
He'llview oklahowna. Uh, and then planes fly over all the time.
That's that is their hot spot. That's why they they
bought out minors lanes because of those planes. But if
it was just a little bit more south, it could
have been such a higher level scaled than what it was.
But our hearts go out to everybody affected and and
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it just could have just been such a such a
more I don't know, worse.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's a great point, Jeff throw because I used to
live out that way and and uh, you're right. I
was concentrating on how densely populated that is, with businesses,
with Stooges, with Louisville Assembly Plant.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Eed, you all these different businesses are out there. But no, yeah,
you go to the end of Great Lane and there's
outer Loop, and then do you have Fairdale. He'll view
all of these name highway right to these all these neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It's a ton of people that are way worse.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And again I said this earlier, I'll say it once
again because I think it is worth repeating. Think about
how sixty five and two sixty four, how Expressway, how
congested that is at five o'clock, four o'clock for that matter,
and this happened at five point twenty.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Oh yeah, it's backed up the Fern Valley head in
southbound every day.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Jethrow, We appreciate the call and sharing your your thoughts
with us today. That's what we're doing. We're getting the
phone calls that people that that that have some information,
but also people are just sharing how they feel. Yeah,
they just want to talk. So let's go to line
four and Tommy, you're on news radio eight forty whas.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Hey Tommy, Hey guys.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I'm an air traffic controller at Lexington and I got
many friends in Louisville that's an air traffic controllers and
I kind of want to talk about, you know, this
government shut down and those controllers up there in the
tower they seen the whole thing. Yeah, and they're not
getting paid right now, and you know that's something that
they're going to have to live with the rest of
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their lives.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, And from your seat, I mean you all for takeoffs.
I mean, I guess it's the same for takeoffs and landing, right,
you got to make sure it's a clear line of
sight and all that for for you know, you don't
want collisions and all that. But that's just a normal
routine takeoff. So that and it didn't seem like there
was a lot of planes in the area. As a
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as an air traffic controller, that seems very routine.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Correct, Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I mean, once you clear the airplane for takeoff, make
sure the runway is clear. You know, there's really nothing
else that you can do. It's all up to the
pilot after that. And it looked to me like the
left engine just caught on fire and the pilot couldn't
do anything about it. But I mean, you're up there
and you're watching it the whole time. There's no something
that you can do.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
It's just terrible.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
And you know those guys up there that they're having
to work today again, you know, the airport's opening, they're
not receiving a paycheck. I mean, there's there's trauma involved in.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
This, oh absolutely, And there's gonna be PTSD for those
that are a great point no, it's it's a it's
a great point. And what's what's odd is last week
Tony and I off the air we were talking about
the stress of air traffic controllers. I can't imagine what
you men and women go through. I mean, the.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Other plane crash was all over the news, and this
one there hasn't been anything said about the Sean Duffy,
the Transportation the Secretary hasn't been on TV and said
one thing about it.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
You know, air traffic control is in.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
The news every day now, and these guys at Louisville
International Airport they're not.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
They're not even talking about them right now.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I can yeah, I can hear, Yeah, I can hear
the emotion in your voice. And I think what compounds
that is from what I understand that you all are
working with antiquated equipment as it is.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Well, yeah, I mean we're dealing with we're dealing with
nineteen seventies technology in twenty twenty five. But I mean,
that's that's besides the point. We do the job to
the best of our ability one hundred percent of the
time correctly, and you have to be one hundred percent.
But you know, I don't know, it's just terrible. And
I used to work for the You want to talk
about a tragedy. I before I became an air trap patroler,
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I was in the military. I had to go to
the railroad to work for the railroad for two years
before I became an air traffic controller. And if that
plane would CSX is right off that departure, and if
that plane would have hit some tankers over there, it
would have been a disaster for the whole city of Louisville.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Okay, here here's why.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
That's another aspect.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's a great point, as Scott right chime saying. Scott
Wright says, uh, spin the plane over just a little bit,
and it heads to the little of downtown. It hits
the hospitals.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Sure, but he's got a great point. This turns into
a hazardous issue if it hits some of those because
God knows what's on those trains. Oh yeah, no, kid,
you know in those in those tanks. We hear the
emotion in your voice, and we appreciate what you do
every single day. And don't think because it's not on
the news, that people aren't thinking about what you guys
do and keep us safe every single day at these airports.
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You know, my wife flies every single week. So I
appreciate what you do and.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I thank you well.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I appreciate you all.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You got it. That's a lot. Yeah, we're going to
continue to take your calls. We'll take Zach and then
we'll go to another break. But we're looking at noon.
Now start for this press conference.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Zach.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You're online one.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Hey, Tony, I talked to you last night.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I was the driver that was like a.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Few minutes at Kentucky Petroleum before the plane crashed.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
I went back and looked at my GPS.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
It's thirteen minutes from the time.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Oh my god, thirteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So you were you were where it hit thirteen minutes
before it hit. I mean, yeah, wow, wow yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
So, And I just want to call it. You guys
are family to this community and you all shine your
brightest whenever events like this go on. Everything from Tony
last night to d White during the National Bank shooting
and everything, and you guys make this city so damn
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proud of you and your radio station. I just want
you all to know that you're tak And on a
lighter note, Tony, I've been concerned about you and your
dolphin down in Jamaica for the last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's it?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
That's Zach.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's not.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Zach. Did you do that on porpoise?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Stop it?
Speaker 7 (20:57):
I did do that onment Zach?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You went, you went from a ten caller to now
a five?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yea, hang up on that?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Hang up on Zach.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Know what, Zach?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You just got five dollars out of the bad jokes
are so let me just get a finn out for you. Okay,
that's it, get it fin, Thank you, Rodney.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
We get it.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
We get it.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I think it brings up a good point. That's why
we're here on has the station has been around for
overall hundred years. Think about the thirty seven flood. You
think about all the disasters and situations that have gone
some of the employs.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
We're here for the thirty seven flood.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's there's no doubt about it. But you know, this
station has been here for the community for a very
long time. And and then we can, you know, we
can allow you to voice your emotions and speak and
even give your opinions here on this radio station. It's
different than our TV partners that you know, their job
is to deliver the news and try to keep it
in the in between the bumpers with us. We just
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we're here to sort of uh, to dive in. We
you know, we're the conversation around your dining room table,
you know where you have. Yeah, there is some speculation,
but you know that all comes into it when it
comes to a tragedy, because sometimes you just talk about it,
you know, you can work through things. We are all
feeling those sixteen families that still have people missing. We're
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all feeling those families that have lost somebody today. And
the UPS pilot community that is a tight group. I
think there's three thousand pilots on staff for UPS, and
there's none better besides the military that fly jets around here.
And I think we just all take advantage take We
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just take for granted the amount of flights every day
out of every airport. And yes, it's a stressful situation. Now, yes,
am I gonna make my connection? Why is it delayed?
How come there's not a crew? And sometimes these are
the times to sort of take a breath and say, okay,
for you know, first rule problems, let's let's get through this.
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But they are an amazing every airport is an amazing
operation that they do every single day, and then they
get up a couple hours later and do it again.
Let's go to uh, let's get Tony in before we
go to a break. Is that okay, John? Yeah, that's fine. Okay, Tony,
you're online too.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Hey, real quick.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
There's a gentleman on YouTube. He's got a channel as
Captain Steve. He does a great explanation as to why
the captains decided to continue with the takeoff and all.
And he's got some technical data and he also has
a picture and he says in there that he doesn't
know if it's tired to this accident or even they
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generated of an engine laying on the side of the anyway,
it comes completely separated from the plane. And other than that, Yeah,
you know, thought some prayers with the families. These guys
are awesome. I get to I'm into the landing pattern.
Usually I get to watch him fly at nighttime. They're
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usually still five six thousand feet opened my cuffs over
my house. But I watched them every night, and last
night I didn't get to see them, and it was
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's very surreal.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I appreciate the shout on the Captain Steve, and
and thank you for the call. I toell him it
is you're right. I didn't even consider that that would
be an AI. But there is a picture of an
engine without any of the casing that goes around and
it looks like they had taken all the panels off
and it was just a raw engine laying in the
grass between the two runways. So I assume that is real.
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But yeah, there's a lot of people that have a
lot of good information on this, and again we tried
it out to rush to make conclusions about what's happened here,
but speculation is part of telling the story.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So and several callers from the aviation community, including UPS
crew member friend of mine called and evidently there's a
point of no return on a takeoff where because of
the weight, because of the speed and of the airplane
and the shortness of the runway you got to go
And he said that it looks like that they were
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at that point had to go ahead and take off,
and it appears, I mean, it's all speculation that this
crew saved lots of lives trying to control that plane.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
We'll be right back on news Radio eight forty whas.
All right, before that press conference happens right now, we're
going to go to the governor in Frankfort on news
RADIOA forty whas.
Speaker 9 (25:30):
At least information I'm getting is those families may not
line up with the hospital patients, which means we've got
to continue to search that site, hope and pray for
the best, but know there may be more loss of
life that we're going to learn about today. Two businesses
were directly impacted, Kentucky Petroleum Recycling and Grade A Auto Parts. Thankfully,
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a local restaurant that is right there that we had
great concern would be impacted and we would lose whoever
was in it was missed and now is helping the
search and rescue.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Were grateful for them.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
Another blessing is this plane could have potentially hit the
major Ford factory or the convention center. Those are all
close by and did not. The radius for the shelter
in place has been significantly reduced. Louisville Metro is putting
out guidance to residents and businesses immediately around the crash
site to not consume water EEC. The Energy and Environment
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Cabinet is working closely with the city on this Other
areas are safe now. If you are in the suburbs,
if you're in other parts of Louisville, you are as
safe today as you've been any other day. The air
is fine, your water is fine, but that immediately around
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the crash site. We're just trying to be very careful
news today. Following yesterday's events, I'm declaring a state of
emergency to help us deal with this plane crash. It
allows us to move resources more quickly through emergency management
and the Kentucky National Guard. It allows state resources to
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be used also through our agencies, to be readily available,
including disaster resource management, expenses related to response and more,
as well as reimbursement. It's going to help to make
sure that groups that are already limited in terms of
their funding can get some immediate or short term help
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as they wait for reimbursement for the costs that they've expended. Additionally,
I've taken action to establish the Team Kentucky Emergency Relief
Fund to help those affected by this terrible event. The
URL for this site is going to be on the screen,
similar to previous storm disaster funds. Every dollar donated we'll
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go directly to those effective. In fact, what we've done
is we've gone and amended the Team Kentucky Storm Relief
Fund to now allow families impacted by a disaster like
this to also benefit from the generosity of Kentuckian's Remember
the first thing that we pay for out of these
funds our funerals, so that in a time of grief,
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nobody is worried about that. In Kentucky, we grieve together
and we support one another. Donations will help pay for
funerals and for response, recovery and rebuilding. All right, Well,
Kentucky is responding to this crisis in Louisville following yesterday's
deadly plane crash. We must also remember the challenges that
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our families are facing due to a lack of SNAP
benefits brought on by the Trump administration. This is a
program that was under attack early by the President following
the Big Ugly Bill. That's why in June I wrote
a letter to Kentucky's can Rational delegation urging them to
consider the harmful impacts of this legislation and how it
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would hit our people. Because SNAP is crucial for Kentucky.
In our commonwealth over six hundred thousand.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
And we just heard from Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Here we go news Radio eight forty WHA saw the
pertinent information was finished it and information. Yes, all right,
let's stay opinions we are. We're taking calls all day
long on this situation. We're still waiting for. We're about
twenty minutes away from the original press conference that were
supposed to start an hour ago. That's with the mayor,
the airport Authority, Metro Emergency Services in Okolona Fire Department.
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We'll get all that. That's where we're going to get
a lot of the information. Boots on the grounds, critical
information on the crash site. And moving forward to with
Stanford Field Muhammad Ali International Airport of where you know
where we are with that. Okay, let's get to Billy.
He is a retired firefire to Billy, you're on news
radio eight forty w h A s.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
H.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Yes, Hey, how's it going guys?
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Hey, Billy good good.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
I'm a retired fireman.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
I just want to give a shout out to all
the first responders and all the different departments that responded.
A couple of things that I wanted to say is
they they did their jobs professionally. They are exposed to
all the fuel, all that smoke. But they did their
job great, and then now they have to deal with
finding any remains, you know, doing those searches and rescues,
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and I just feel, you know, I feel feel for them.
You know, it's it's not it's not easy to do
your job and go home and then they have to
come back and do it again, and you know, it's
it's I feel for everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
There's there's some jobs where you just can't leave it behind,
you can't leave it at work, and that's unfortunately, this
is one of them. The things you have to see,
the things that you have to do. And yeah, the
men and women of our first responders are going to
have to be dealing with this the rest of our lives.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh, there's no question. And I and Billy I, I
kept watching that scene to where they were pouring that
foam on those three cylinder like it all looks like
a propane tanks, but they're gigantic, the size of a
semi and I thought that those firefighters were pretty close
to that. And as a firefighter, you have to take
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that risk that any of those could explode at any time.
It didn't seem that they had enough distance to survive
something like that. Speak on that as a firefighter, Well, I.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Mean there's an inherent risk, but you also know that
you know, if that blows, if that bledes and goes up,
it's going to be a lot more, a lot worse
for everyone else involved. And you know, sometimes you go
in and you do well you have to do, you know,
regardless of the calculated risk. I guess that is what
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you would call it, because you know, you don't want,
you're tired to minimize and reduce whatever emergency occurred. Right,
we didn't, but yet we're there to to make it better.
And that's that's what we pride ourselves on.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
As as a firefighter, obviously you train for every situation,
including aviation, but I would think that the degree of
difficulty on putting out jet fuel would be way worse
than a normal fire.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
What's used in situations like this, Well, you got.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
To use foam because water is just gonna it's just
gonna mix with it.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
It's just gonna sit on.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
Top, uh and it's just gonna keep burning. And then
you gotta get foam on it. You gotta cover it.
You gotta basically cut the air off, air off from
the fire and.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Then and let it you know.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Cool. Uh So, but with that much fuel and and
that spread of debris, you know, or how much it
went across, it's it's just a lot of work. And
I mean I'm impressed that they got it. They got
it out by leavin. Then of course all the search
and then all the search into rescue that they did,
you know, with with that on top, I mean, it's
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it's a you know what everybody did and come together
and get it under control.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Can you talk about the dangers of having that petroleum
outfit so close to where this happened.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's a question to me, Like
who thought it would be a good idea to put
a petroleum fuel company at the end of a major runway.
I'm not sure that was thought wise, right, I don't
know who.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I don't know who found off on that one.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think they're probably gonna move that. Billy. We appreciate
your insight and your service as a firefighter. Uh let's
let's move on to Jed. Jed's been waiting patiently. Plus
we have Doug after that. Jed, you are on news
radio eight forty w h A S. Hello, It Jed,
you're on brother.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
Hey, sorry, it's it's sid but's where you go. Glad
to talk to you. Guys. Hey, you've touched and and
some of your callers have touched on the multiple scenarios
that could have been so much more tragic, you know,
had the plane gone a little further south and plowed
through those residential areas, or had it been going in
the opposite direction and plowed through downtown. And uh, those
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scenarios just go on and on, and it just makes
me realize, not for the first time, that perhaps putting
a major commercial airport back dab in the middle of
a densely populated urban area is not the best strategy.
I take it. Take a look at what take where
did Cincinnati move their airport to where the Denver airport too? Yeah, exactly,
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And there were there were plans at a couple of
different points than that airport district to relocate that to Shelbyville.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Correct, But it says a chicken or the egg situation.
I mean, what was there because you'll have airport and then.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
He's correct, though there there was an opportunity in the
early seventies, the group that went to Dada Atlanta that
created the largest airport in the United States in Atlanta,
came to Louisville first and said, we want to build
this thing in Shelbyville. So you're correct, there was that
thought before, but as Louisvillions and the leaders that we do,
we turned it down.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Well, yes we did, but other cities have progressed that way.
I mean, when you fly, if you've ever flown into Paris, France,
you do not fly into the middle of Paris. Denver
built that airport within the last twenty to thirty years.
Their airport used to be in the city, Stapleton Airport.
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They've relocated that far out of the city. It's a
thirty minute drive now. Of course, Shelbyville and Shelby County
has developed a lot in the last thirty forty fifty years,
but forty years ago it was much more farmland than
it is now and it just would have made more sense. Also,
the impact of the air traffic that has on the
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quality of life of the residents of Louisville. I mean
from Old Louisville to Shelby Park, Germantown, Autumn Park, and
then the neighborhoods south. You know, we're covered up with
air traffic twenty four to seven. Yeah, so it's a huge,
huge impact both on the quality of life and as
we now know, a real safety concern because this could
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have been so much Think about if that had been
what if that had been a fully loaded passenger plane.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Oh no, yeah, yeah, it is, it is and it's
a great call. And to Dwight's point, yeah, it's hindsight
and thanks to for the appreciate the call, getting our
people's opinions out there. Again, it's hide in sight at
the time. And look, let's just think Louisville was not
a very developed outside. You know, remember Saint Matthew's at
one point was was the east the most HEAs you
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can go. There's farmland, you know where Westport Middle School
is and all that was just farmland. Hirstborn was her farmland. Yeah,
that was all farmland. You know, it was underdeveloped, you
know land here louis has grown, you know, exponentially here
in the last couple of decades. Let's go to line
five and Doug, Doug, you're on news radio A forty
w h A S.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah, I want to kind of duvetail into what the
previous caller just said. About the expansion. I'm on the
CNF board over with the with the noise issue, and
I represent the southwest Louisville, and we've been it's actually
a fight to reduce the noise levels in the Southwest.
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Now that's a separate issue than this crash. And the
reason I want to dovetail it is we mentioned earlier
had this plane gone a little bit east or west
or something like that. Usually, on a nightly basis, ups
planes fly over the top of our homes over here
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in the southwest where there's Shorktown, North Gleneary, Fairdale. These
planes fly over the top at very low altitudes. And
I've been preaching this to the CNF board and everybody
knows about it on the board that sometimes there's been
a redesign that's helped the noise. So what happens is
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those planes are supposed to by the redesign that took
place last June went into effect the FAA's airspace redesigned.
Those planes are supposed to take off dead center of
the seventeen hour runway and not bank till they get
on the other side of the dump. However, during the
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middle of the night, I've got actually you can go
online and report the noise levels online to the Stanford Field.
I'm not Stanford Field, but to the noise.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
On there now.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, I hate to wrap you up. Are we're we're
getting close to this past press conference. It looks like
they're gonna go a little bit earlier and that is
a topic for another show. And I appreciate your activity,
UH in the in the community and get ahold of
us later and we can definitely talk about that in
in longer form. I appreciate your call. We are getting closer.
I've got Paul Miles at the at the event saying
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we are getting pretty close here. I've got Louisville Metro
TV up. We are going to take that live as
soon as they go to that. And again, this is
going to clear up I think a lot of our
questions from this morning on when the airport will reopen
ups and operation They on this list is nobody from UPS,
so we have yet to have a Q and A
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with UH someone from the corporation. They have had some
obviously issued some statements, but we don't know that. So
we'll have Metro Services, Oklahoma Fire Department, Regional Airport Authority,
and Craig Greenberg. We just heard from the governor, which
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seemed to not be able to get to hear to
have his own press conference in Frankfurt instead of being
here with everyone else. But that's another story. So we
will go to that as soon as it gets there,
and I think they are going to be a couple
of minutes older. No, we're going to go into Clay
and Buck and once this press conference is over, we're
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going to go live to Paul Miles to sort of
get his take because he will have questions for these
guys afterwards.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Dwight, Oh, sorry about that, Mike was off. Yes, it's
going to be interesting to see what information that the
National Transportation Safety Board, if any, have released at this point.
You know, everything we're running on right now is speculation
and secondhand knowledge. But I would think at this press conference,
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even though we're under twenty four hours from such a
horrific event, I think that the NTSB is going to
shed some light on this.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Do you want to take a break, Yeah, we can
do that. Take a short break. We'll come back with
the press conference here on news Radio weight forty whas
Welcome back to News Radio eight forty whas is eleven
o'clock on the dot. We are waiting for a press
conference with our partner's WLKY. We will have the entire
press conference right here. The press conference is an update
on obviously the incident that happened last night at Muhammad
Ali International Airport. Creig Greenberger across the Louisville Mayor. They've
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got the airport authority officials there. I think you'll get
answers on how fast the airport will open or not.
The louis Metro Emergency Service, that's Jody Myman. He was
in control last night. He will try to will his
job will be to describe and tell us what is
going on at the crash site. And then Okalona Fire Department,
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which was first on scene last night to control it.
And it was an immense fire that just was not
going out like a plane crash with all that fuel,
you think, okay, the fuel just burns out. It hit
a Trollium company and it just kept going. And it
was from the thirty two ok Why Chopper Dwight. It
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looked like it was like white hot, like you could
see the red right, you could see the fire of
the red but it was just white hot. It wasn't yellow,
its white. And you're thinking the immense heat in that situation.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And the pictures in the videos where you see because again,
this goes I'm going to say, over a city block long.
And it's just you made the analogy this morning off
the air when we were talking trying to describe it
as napalm, and that's really what it looked like because
it's just destruction and flames. It just went up instantaneously.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And as a matter of fact, that's what napalm is
made out of gasoline.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean, it's absolutely horrific. And more video starts to surface,
more pictures start to surface, and it's just worse and
worse and more and more devastating. But again, waiting on
a press conference right now at the time, is it
I think we know the tot is nine at this time.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It went from seven to nine this morning. That doesn't
include the two that are in critical condition at University Hospital.
There are sixteen still missing, which makes all of our
hearts sort of take pause here.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, and by the way, if you want to get
in touch with UPS family members seeking information from UPS,
UPS has released this number, it's eight hundred six three
one zero six oh four. Again, family members seeking information
from UPS, that number is eight hundred sixty three one
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zero six oh four, and also from UPS. You would
already know this by now, but I'll say it anyway. UPS.
Second day air sort at Worldport has been canceled. If
you're a HUB or you're a RAP employee on second
day air, you should absolutely not report to work.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
If you want information on Standardford Field, go to the
Twitter account or x account fly Louisville at fly Louisville,
or go to fly Loeuisville dot com. A lot of
people obviously very busy. I told a story last night.
I picked up Jackie a couple of weeks ago on
a Tuesday night. It was eleven forty five, it was midnight,
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and there were a thousand people at the airport. There
was barely any It was jam packed at midnight on
a Tuesday, and there was barely any place to park.
I had to park on the fourth floor, you know,
all the way to the top because there was no
parking spots. And I couldn't believe, you know, the restaurants
were still open inside the airport. Everyone was running around
it was. It was a crazy amount of people and
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it felt like the middle. It felt like eleven am,
not eleven pm. At the airport now, I think if
you haven't been out of there, because there's some people
like our producer that has never been on a plane.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
No, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I've been on a plane in fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh in fifteen years, yes, right, for my perfect example,
if you haven't been to the airport in fifteen years,
it is a much different airport and it is much
busier than and you remember, this is just part of
our lives that America has to We fly everywhere. I
mean the amount of flights. If you've ever pulled up
one of those trackers.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh yeah, no, that's really creepy to see when you
just get firefly, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It's crazy. We will go to the press conference. It
was promised at eleven o'clock, but a lot of times
these things goes just a couple of minutes over. We
will take that press conference in its entirety. We have
Paul Miles from WHAS Radio on scene. He will be
there to ask some questions. At the end. I would
assume they're going to do Q and any you.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Would almost think they have to. And again, a lot
of the show this morning, we've been because this is
a horrible situation, I mean, granted, but we've been reflecting
on how worse this could have been. It is densely populated,
especially at five o'clock. We're talking to the expressways. Oh yeah,
sixty five and two sixty four. They merge right there
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at Fern Valley, and rush hour traffic is horrible there.
That's one area could have hit a Louis assembly plant.
It hit dangerously close to that, also Stooge's Bar, Guerrilla.
There's so many businesses out there that it could have
been far worse. But again, we did lose non lives
and that's expected to possibly climb unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, we've been saying that all day. The nose of
the plane was already up. They were past the v
V point, which is a velocity obviously says you cannot stop. Now,
you have to take off if it gets any altitude
to what you just mentioned. This conversation is much different
if it hits the Ford plant, or if it hits
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neighborhoods or anything over in that direction, including what you
said the expressways. I mean, how many I find myself
on the expressway looking at the airport ten times a week.
So I mean, it is what it is, and I
guarantee you there's so many witnesses that looked out their
window and saw that that flame go up as it was.
We also got a caller that was cutting his grass
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close to the airport and says his eyes were burning,
his lungs were burning. His neighbors suggested, why don't you
go on in.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Uh he said he could still taste it in his
mouth this morning. Yes, I'm assuming that's what the sheltering
place was. And then you came in last night and
brought up a great point of the air conditioning units
to turn the turn it off. I mean, I'm just
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I'm at a loss for words on the whole situation.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Thank god, everybody at Stooges was okay. According to the
second source, the owner said the bar was packed.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'm just not surprised because I mean, it's people get
off work at ups, people get off work at Louis
Assembly Plant. And those are only two businesses that are
out there. U A w has a Oh, there's a
ton of business. And there's tons and tons and tons
of businesses out there.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And that's back back where you go down that road,
and you would know more than I that is the
entrance for the employees to ups right, it's just Stooges.
And then right before that is that that entrance right
where they go.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It's been decades since I've been there. Right, it's pretty close.
You wouldn't go down where Stooges is. You would go
the opposite direction. Instid of taking a left and going
down towards Stooges, you would take a right. That's when
I worked out there at least. But again, so many
businesses there, and one of the businesses were told that
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the star time is now going to be around eleven
fifteen for this press conference.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oka just a couple minutes away.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, let's take a book.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Okay, let's hear that so we can clear this time. Yes,
and we'll continue with our comments and we'll have Paul
Miles live on site after the press conference. Back after
this to Tony and Dwight Show on news Radio eight
forty w h.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Bill Collins or Genesis. I never know, it does sound
very similar, I never know.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
All Right, we are just a couple of seconds away
from this press conference again down at the airport. We're
gonna get the up to date information on pretty much everything.
Craig Greenberg will speak. He was out of town last night,
got back around eight eight thirty last night. The airport
authority will talk. I think we're gonna find out whether
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the airport is going to open or not more open
because it's got there. There are passengers there, which is
an amazing story to me. Louisville Metro Emergency Service, you
know Jody's he's in charge down there, so he'll tell
us about the crash site and then Oklhona Fire Department
about how this thing went down at the beginning there.
I'm looking up Louisville Metro TV right now because we're
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gonna carry this as as it unfolds.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Here.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
They rarely. It looks like they are just seconds away.
They are reporters there. It's the same room that they
ended up in last night. It's got a clear podium
with the ALI symbol, the butterfly like symbol of the
airport there, and they're doing some mic tests as we speak,
So we are going to find out. It really is
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amazing that they actually are operating in some capacity out there.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah. I had friends that were out of town trying
to get back to Louisville last night, and looked like
for the most part most of them called an audible
and they had to fly into Nashville and drive in
or Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And driving right, I would think Cincinnati probably is well
depends I mean right right, sure what direction is coming
from and how many people are how many planes at
that late hour are scheduled to go to Louisville, Kentucky
as this happened at five point twenty in the afternoon,
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But it looks like they they are running flights out
of Stanford Field, which surprised me. But they may be
opening up more. And NTSB is on sen what twenty
five people that they sent it last night that the
mayor estimated that he heard twenty eight, which I asked Paul,
because the mayor even said that is a very large
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group of NTSB. That's the fence they come in and
they take over. I asked Paul because he was at
the crash in Lexington a couple of years ago, and
he said, yes, it didn't seem like that was that
many at that crash team. But he also said something interesting.
They were allowed as reporters on the crash site the
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next day, and that situation was just heartbreaking because they
just chose the wrong runway and they didn't have enough
runway to take off of the size of plane that
they had in Lexington. And that's really the last you
know significant Obviously, smaller planes fall out of the sky
all the time, and accidents happened with these cessnas all
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the time. A couple of years ago, the lu City,
remember went down in southern Indiana. Because there is a
field in Clarksville, there is Bowman Field, they can probably
direct these smaller planes that were landing because I don't
think people realize how many of those private jets land
at Louisville all the time. I mean all day long.
They have a separate sort of airport there, not airport,
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but they have a separate hub there where you go through.
I used to go through there when I covered U
of L and I would fly with the team. That's
where we would go out. I bet you they're just
diverting to Bowman Field. And we were just there a
couple of weeks ago with Bowmanfest. What a fantastic operation
that is.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
From Captain Bob really did a dear friend of the
show and by the way, for ups pilot says, it
completely impossible for anyone that's been directly involved with the
post crash and TSB investigation to comprehend the complexity of
this investigation. And they can take up to a year
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or more. But think about that, all right, They take
all these pieces and they are reassembled.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I think that's a good point that the initial investigation,
right is like two weeks, but you don't get answers
those for a while.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
There's a reconstruction process. And by the way, Captain Bob
he I believe he was involved. When Steve, the other
crew member that we had on earlier, mentioned the crashing Dubai,
I believe Captain Bob was there.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
John John, our boss, just sent us an update.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Louisville fire spokesman says they now anticipate a noon start
on the briefing of coursetead of Now.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Okay, all right, so they're waiting on someone to get
down there, and I don't know who that is. Obviously,
everyone is super busy on what's going on. Five seven, one, eight,
four eighty four is the phone number. Please give us
a call. We've had some I'm always proud of our listeners.
On news radio eight forty w h as the Charlie
Kirk situation you happen to be out at that time.
(12:56):
I took calls for two straight days and they were
all very just intelligent and thoughtful phone calls. And and
that's what we've taken today. And the amount of people
that are engineers or have worked on these planes that
are worked at ups. The most heartbreaking, of course, is
your friend Steve that mentioned he had had coffee with
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that pilot of that plane a month ago in Honolulu, uh,
and did not get confirmation until he was landed in
Georgia last night.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Steve and I have been friends for years and years
and years, and and uh, when I found out the
route was too Honolulu, and I knew that was it
hits you. It was such is such a.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You didn't know at that point, whether or not I
didn't know. I think there's a lot of stories like
that from last night.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
There is.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I believe we have a call.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, let's go to Jethro Jethrow, you're online.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Too, Hey, Tony, Hey, Dwight, Hey Jro, Hey, buddy. Uh. Yeah,
my heart builds out that everybody affected with this situation.
But I'm telling you, this could have been on such
a worse, higher level tragedy than it was because if
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you think south, if they were just a mile or
two more south a give or take east or west.
Also you have.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Sixty five Fairdale.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
He'llview oklahowna. Uh, and then planes fly over all the time.
That's that is their hot spot. That's why they they
bought out minors lanes because of those planes. But if
it was just a little bit more south, it could
have been such a higher level scaled than what it was.
But our hearts go out to everybody affected and and
(14:34):
it just could have just been such a such a
more I don't know, worse.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's a great point, Jeff throw because I used to
live out that way and and uh, you're right. I
was concentrating on how densely populated that is, with businesses,
with Stooges, with Louisville Assembly Plant.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Eed, you all these different businesses are out there. But no, yeah,
you go to the end of Great Lane and there's
outer Loop, and then do you have Fairdale. He'll view
all of these name highway right to these all these neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It's a ton of people that are way worse.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And again I said this earlier, I'll say it once
again because I think it is worth repeating. Think about
how sixty five and two sixty four, how Expressway, how
congested that is at five o'clock, four o'clock for that matter,
and this happened at five point twenty.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Oh yeah, it's backed up the Fern Valley head in
southbound every day.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Jethrow, We appreciate the call and sharing your your thoughts
with us today. That's what we're doing. We're getting the
phone calls that people that that that have some information,
but also people are just sharing how they feel. Yeah,
they just want to talk. So let's go to line
four and Tommy, you're on news radio eight forty whas.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Hey Tommy, Hey guys.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I'm an air traffic controller at Lexington and I got
many friends in Louisville that's an air traffic controllers and
I kind of want to talk about, you know, this
government shut down and those controllers up there in the
tower they seen the whole thing. Yeah, and they're not
getting paid right now, and you know that's something that
they're going to have to live with the rest of
(16:12):
their lives.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, And from your seat, I mean you all for takeoffs.
I mean, I guess it's the same for takeoffs and landing, right,
you got to make sure it's a clear line of
sight and all that for for you know, you don't
want collisions and all that. But that's just a normal
routine takeoff. So that and it didn't seem like there
was a lot of planes in the area. As a
(16:34):
as an air traffic controller, that seems very routine.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Correct, Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I mean, once you clear the airplane for takeoff, make
sure the runway is clear. You know, there's really nothing
else that you can do. It's all up to the
pilot after that. And it looked to me like the
left engine just caught on fire and the pilot couldn't
do anything about it. But I mean, you're up there
and you're watching it the whole time. There's no something
that you can do.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
It's just terrible.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
And you know those guys up there that they're having
to work today again, you know, the airport's opening, they're
not receiving a paycheck. I mean, there's there's trauma involved in.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
This, oh absolutely, And there's gonna be PTSD for those
that are a great point no, it's it's a it's
a great point. And what's what's odd is last week
Tony and I off the air we were talking about
the stress of air traffic controllers. I can't imagine what
you men and women go through. I mean, the.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Other plane crash was all over the news, and this
one there hasn't been anything said about the Sean Duffy,
the Transportation the Secretary hasn't been on TV and said
one thing about it.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
You know, air traffic control is in.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
The news every day now, and these guys at Louisville
International Airport they're not.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
They're not even talking about them right now.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I can yeah, I can hear, Yeah, I can hear
the emotion in your voice. And I think what compounds
that is from what I understand that you all are
working with antiquated equipment as it is.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Well, yeah, I mean we're dealing with we're dealing with
nineteen seventies technology in twenty twenty five. But I mean,
that's that's besides the point. We do the job to
the best of our ability one hundred percent of the
time correctly, and you have to be one hundred percent.
But you know, I don't know, it's just terrible. And
I used to work for the You want to talk
about a tragedy. I before I became an air trap patroler,
(18:30):
I was in the military. I had to go to
the railroad to work for the railroad for two years
before I became an air traffic controller. And if that
plane would CSX is right off that departure, and if
that plane would have hit some tankers over there, it
would have been a disaster for the whole city of Louisville.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Okay, here here's why.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
That's another aspect.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's a great point, as Scott right chime saying. Scott
Wright says, uh, spin the plane over just a little bit,
and it heads to the little of downtown. It hits
the hospitals.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Sure, but he's got a great point. This turns into
a hazardous issue if it hits some of those because
God knows what's on those trains. Oh yeah, no, kid,
you know in those in those tanks. We hear the
emotion in your voice, and we appreciate what you do
every single day. And don't think because it's not on
the news, that people aren't thinking about what you guys
do and keep us safe every single day at these airports.
(19:22):
You know, my wife flies every single week. So I
appreciate what you do and.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I thank you well.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I appreciate you all.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You got it. That's a lot. Yeah, we're going to
continue to take your calls. We'll take Zach and then
we'll go to another break. But we're looking at noon.
Now start for this press conference.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Zach.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You're online one.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Hey, Tony, I talked to you last night.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I was the driver that was like a.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Few minutes at Kentucky Petroleum before the plane crashed.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
I went back and looked at my GPS.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
It's thirteen minutes from the time.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Oh my god, thirteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So you were you were where it hit thirteen minutes
before it hit. I mean, yeah, wow, wow yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
So, And I just want to call it. You guys
are family to this community and you all shine your
brightest whenever events like this go on. Everything from Tony
last night to d White during the National Bank shooting
and everything, and you guys make this city so damn
(20:35):
proud of you and your radio station. I just want
you all to know that you're tak And on a
lighter note, Tony, I've been concerned about you and your
dolphin down in Jamaica for the last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's it?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
That's Zach.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's not.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Zach. Did you do that on porpoise?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Stop it?
Speaker 7 (20:57):
I did do that onment Zach?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You went, you went from a ten caller to now
a five?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yea, hang up on that?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Hang up on Zach.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Know what, Zach?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You just got five dollars out of the bad jokes
are so let me just get a finn out for you. Okay,
that's it, get it fin, Thank you, Rodney.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
We get it.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
We get it.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I think it brings up a good point. That's why
we're here on has the station has been around for
overall hundred years. Think about the thirty seven flood. You
think about all the disasters and situations that have gone
some of the employs.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
We're here for the thirty seven flood.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's there's no doubt about it. But you know, this
station has been here for the community for a very
long time. And and then we can, you know, we
can allow you to voice your emotions and speak and
even give your opinions here on this radio station. It's
different than our TV partners that you know, their job
is to deliver the news and try to keep it
in the in between the bumpers with us. We just
(21:51):
we're here to sort of uh, to dive in. We
you know, we're the conversation around your dining room table,
you know where you have. Yeah, there is some speculation,
but you know that all comes into it when it
comes to a tragedy, because sometimes you just talk about it,
you know, you can work through things. We are all
feeling those sixteen families that still have people missing. We're
(22:12):
all feeling those families that have lost somebody today. And
the UPS pilot community that is a tight group. I
think there's three thousand pilots on staff for UPS, and
there's none better besides the military that fly jets around here.
And I think we just all take advantage take We
(22:34):
just take for granted the amount of flights every day
out of every airport. And yes, it's a stressful situation. Now, yes,
am I gonna make my connection? Why is it delayed?
How come there's not a crew? And sometimes these are
the times to sort of take a breath and say, okay,
for you know, first rule problems, let's let's get through this.
(22:56):
But they are an amazing every airport is an amazing
operation that they do every single day, and then they
get up a couple hours later and do it again.
Let's go to uh, let's get Tony in before we
go to a break. Is that okay, John? Yeah, that's fine. Okay, Tony,
you're online too.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Hey, real quick.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
There's a gentleman on YouTube. He's got a channel as
Captain Steve. He does a great explanation as to why
the captains decided to continue with the takeoff and all.
And he's got some technical data and he also has
a picture and he says in there that he doesn't
know if it's tired to this accident or even they
(23:34):
generated of an engine laying on the side of the anyway,
it comes completely separated from the plane. And other than that, Yeah,
you know, thought some prayers with the families. These guys
are awesome. I get to I'm into the landing pattern.
Usually I get to watch him fly at nighttime. They're
(23:58):
usually still five six thousand feet opened my cuffs over
my house. But I watched them every night, and last
night I didn't get to see them, and it was
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's very surreal.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I appreciate the shout on the Captain Steve, and
and thank you for the call. I toell him it
is you're right. I didn't even consider that that would
be an AI. But there is a picture of an
engine without any of the casing that goes around and
it looks like they had taken all the panels off
and it was just a raw engine laying in the
grass between the two runways. So I assume that is real.
(24:35):
But yeah, there's a lot of people that have a
lot of good information on this, and again we tried
it out to rush to make conclusions about what's happened here,
but speculation is part of telling the story.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So and several callers from the aviation community, including UPS
crew member friend of mine called and evidently there's a
point of no return on a takeoff where because of
the weight, because of the speed and of the airplane
and the shortness of the runway you got to go
And he said that it looks like that they were
(25:07):
at that point had to go ahead and take off,
and it appears, I mean, it's all speculation that this
crew saved lots of lives trying to control that plane.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
We'll be right back on news Radio eight forty whas.
All right, before that press conference happens right now, we're
going to go to the governor in Frankfort on news
RADIOA forty whas.
Speaker 9 (25:30):
At least information I'm getting is those families may not
line up with the hospital patients, which means we've got
to continue to search that site, hope and pray for
the best, but know there may be more loss of
life that we're going to learn about today. Two businesses
were directly impacted, Kentucky Petroleum Recycling and Grade A Auto Parts. Thankfully,
(25:56):
a local restaurant that is right there that we had
great concern would be impacted and we would lose whoever
was in it was missed and now is helping the
search and rescue.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Were grateful for them.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
Another blessing is this plane could have potentially hit the
major Ford factory or the convention center. Those are all
close by and did not. The radius for the shelter
in place has been significantly reduced. Louisville Metro is putting
out guidance to residents and businesses immediately around the crash
site to not consume water EEC. The Energy and Environment
(26:34):
Cabinet is working closely with the city on this Other
areas are safe now. If you are in the suburbs,
if you're in other parts of Louisville, you are as
safe today as you've been any other day. The air
is fine, your water is fine, but that immediately around
(26:55):
the crash site. We're just trying to be very careful
news today. Following yesterday's events, I'm declaring a state of
emergency to help us deal with this plane crash. It
allows us to move resources more quickly through emergency management
and the Kentucky National Guard. It allows state resources to
(27:15):
be used also through our agencies, to be readily available,
including disaster resource management, expenses related to response and more,
as well as reimbursement. It's going to help to make
sure that groups that are already limited in terms of
their funding can get some immediate or short term help
(27:38):
as they wait for reimbursement for the costs that they've expended. Additionally,
I've taken action to establish the Team Kentucky Emergency Relief
Fund to help those affected by this terrible event. The
URL for this site is going to be on the screen,
similar to previous storm disaster funds. Every dollar donated we'll
(27:58):
go directly to those effective. In fact, what we've done
is we've gone and amended the Team Kentucky Storm Relief
Fund to now allow families impacted by a disaster like
this to also benefit from the generosity of Kentuckian's Remember
the first thing that we pay for out of these
funds our funerals, so that in a time of grief,
(28:22):
nobody is worried about that. In Kentucky, we grieve together
and we support one another. Donations will help pay for
funerals and for response, recovery and rebuilding. All right, Well,
Kentucky is responding to this crisis in Louisville following yesterday's
deadly plane crash. We must also remember the challenges that
(28:44):
our families are facing due to a lack of SNAP
benefits brought on by the Trump administration. This is a
program that was under attack early by the President following
the Big Ugly Bill. That's why in June I wrote
a letter to Kentucky's can Rational delegation urging them to
consider the harmful impacts of this legislation and how it
(29:05):
would hit our people. Because SNAP is crucial for Kentucky.
In our commonwealth over six hundred thousand.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
And we just heard from Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Here we go news Radio eight forty WHA saw the
pertinent information was finished it and information. Yes, all right,
let's stay opinions we are. We're taking calls all day
long on this situation. We're still waiting for. We're about
twenty minutes away from the original press conference that were
supposed to start an hour ago. That's with the mayor,
the airport Authority, Metro Emergency Services in Okolona Fire Department.
(29:41):
We'll get all that. That's where we're going to get
a lot of the information. Boots on the grounds, critical
information on the crash site. And moving forward to with
Stanford Field Muhammad Ali International Airport of where you know
where we are with that. Okay, let's get to Billy.
He is a retired firefire to Billy, you're on news
radio eight forty w h A s.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
H.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Yes, Hey, how's it going guys?
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Hey, Billy good good.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
I'm a retired fireman.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
I just want to give a shout out to all
the first responders and all the different departments that responded.
A couple of things that I wanted to say is
they they did their jobs professionally. They are exposed to
all the fuel, all that smoke. But they did their
job great, and then now they have to deal with
finding any remains, you know, doing those searches and rescues,
(30:31):
and I just feel, you know, I feel feel for them.
You know, it's it's not it's not easy to do
your job and go home and then they have to
come back and do it again, and you know, it's
it's I feel for everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
There's there's some jobs where you just can't leave it behind,
you can't leave it at work, and that's unfortunately, this
is one of them. The things you have to see,
the things that you have to do. And yeah, the
men and women of our first responders are going to
have to be dealing with this the rest of our lives.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh, there's no question. And I and Billy I, I
kept watching that scene to where they were pouring that
foam on those three cylinder like it all looks like
a propane tanks, but they're gigantic, the size of a
semi and I thought that those firefighters were pretty close
to that. And as a firefighter, you have to take
(31:20):
that risk that any of those could explode at any time.
It didn't seem that they had enough distance to survive
something like that. Speak on that as a firefighter, Well, I.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Mean there's an inherent risk, but you also know that
you know, if that blows, if that bledes and goes up,
it's going to be a lot more, a lot worse
for everyone else involved. And you know, sometimes you go
in and you do well you have to do, you know,
regardless of the calculated risk. I guess that is what
(31:51):
you would call it, because you know, you don't want,
you're tired to minimize and reduce whatever emergency occurred. Right,
we didn't, but yet we're there to to make it better.
And that's that's what we pride ourselves on.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
As as a firefighter, obviously you train for every situation,
including aviation, but I would think that the degree of
difficulty on putting out jet fuel would be way worse
than a normal fire.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
What's used in situations like this, Well, you got.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
To use foam because water is just gonna it's just
gonna mix with it.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
It's just gonna sit on.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
Top, uh and it's just gonna keep burning. And then
you gotta get foam on it. You gotta cover it.
You gotta basically cut the air off, air off from
the fire and.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Then and let it you know.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Cool. Uh So, but with that much fuel and and
that spread of debris, you know, or how much it
went across, it's it's just a lot of work. And
I mean I'm impressed that they got it. They got
it out by leavin. Then of course all the search
and then all the search into rescue that they did,
you know, with with that on top, I mean, it's
(32:59):
it's a you know what everybody did and come together
and get it under control.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Can you talk about the dangers of having that petroleum
outfit so close to where this happened.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's a question to me, Like
who thought it would be a good idea to put
a petroleum fuel company at the end of a major runway.
I'm not sure that was thought wise, right, I don't
know who.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I don't know who found off on that one.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think they're probably gonna move that. Billy. We appreciate
your insight and your service as a firefighter. Uh let's
let's move on to Jed. Jed's been waiting patiently. Plus
we have Doug after that. Jed, you are on news
radio eight forty w h A S. Hello, It Jed,
you're on brother.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
Hey, sorry, it's it's sid but's where you go. Glad
to talk to you. Guys. Hey, you've touched and and
some of your callers have touched on the multiple scenarios
that could have been so much more tragic, you know,
had the plane gone a little further south and plowed
through those residential areas, or had it been going in
the opposite direction and plowed through downtown. And uh, those
(34:17):
scenarios just go on and on, and it just makes
me realize, not for the first time, that perhaps putting
a major commercial airport back dab in the middle of
a densely populated urban area is not the best strategy.
I take it. Take a look at what take where
did Cincinnati move their airport to where the Denver airport too? Yeah, exactly,
(34:41):
And there were there were plans at a couple of
different points than that airport district to relocate that to Shelbyville.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Correct, But it says a chicken or the egg situation.
I mean, what was there because you'll have airport and then.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
He's correct, though there there was an opportunity in the
early seventies, the group that went to Dada Atlanta that
created the largest airport in the United States in Atlanta,
came to Louisville first and said, we want to build
this thing in Shelbyville. So you're correct, there was that
thought before, but as Louisvillions and the leaders that we do,
we turned it down.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Well, yes we did, but other cities have progressed that way.
I mean, when you fly, if you've ever flown into Paris, France,
you do not fly into the middle of Paris. Denver
built that airport within the last twenty to thirty years.
Their airport used to be in the city, Stapleton Airport.
(35:39):
They've relocated that far out of the city. It's a
thirty minute drive now. Of course, Shelbyville and Shelby County
has developed a lot in the last thirty forty fifty years,
but forty years ago it was much more farmland than
it is now and it just would have made more sense. Also,
the impact of the air traffic that has on the
(35:59):
quality of life of the residents of Louisville. I mean
from Old Louisville to Shelby Park, Germantown, Autumn Park, and
then the neighborhoods south. You know, we're covered up with
air traffic twenty four to seven. Yeah, so it's a huge,
huge impact both on the quality of life and as
we now know, a real safety concern because this could
(36:20):
have been so much Think about if that had been
what if that had been a fully loaded passenger plane.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Oh no, yeah, yeah, it is, it is and it's
a great call. And to Dwight's point, yeah, it's hindsight
and thanks to for the appreciate the call, getting our
people's opinions out there. Again, it's hide in sight at
the time. And look, let's just think Louisville was not
a very developed outside. You know, remember Saint Matthew's at
one point was was the east the most HEAs you
(36:51):
can go. There's farmland, you know where Westport Middle School
is and all that was just farmland. Hirstborn was her farmland. Yeah,
that was all farmland. You know, it was underdeveloped, you
know land here louis has grown, you know, exponentially here
in the last couple of decades. Let's go to line
five and Doug, Doug, you're on news radio A forty
w h A S.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah, I want to kind of duvetail into what the
previous caller just said. About the expansion. I'm on the
CNF board over with the with the noise issue, and
I represent the southwest Louisville, and we've been it's actually
a fight to reduce the noise levels in the Southwest.
(37:34):
Now that's a separate issue than this crash. And the
reason I want to dovetail it is we mentioned earlier
had this plane gone a little bit east or west
or something like that. Usually, on a nightly basis, ups
planes fly over the top of our homes over here
(37:55):
in the southwest where there's Shorktown, North Gleneary, Fairdale. These
planes fly over the top at very low altitudes. And
I've been preaching this to the CNF board and everybody
knows about it on the board that sometimes there's been
a redesign that's helped the noise. So what happens is
(38:19):
those planes are supposed to by the redesign that took
place last June went into effect the FAA's airspace redesigned.
Those planes are supposed to take off dead center of
the seventeen hour runway and not bank till they get
on the other side of the dump. However, during the
(38:41):
middle of the night, I've got actually you can go
online and report the noise levels online to the Stanford Field.
I'm not Stanford Field, but to the noise.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
On there now.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, I hate to wrap you up. Are we're we're
getting close to this past press conference. It looks like
they're gonna go a little bit earlier and that is
a topic for another show. And I appreciate your activity,
UH in the in the community and get ahold of
us later and we can definitely talk about that in
in longer form. I appreciate your call. We are getting closer.
I've got Paul Miles at the at the event saying
(39:18):
we are getting pretty close here. I've got Louisville Metro
TV up. We are going to take that live as
soon as they go to that. And again, this is
going to clear up I think a lot of our
questions from this morning on when the airport will reopen
ups and operation They on this list is nobody from UPS,
so we have yet to have a Q and A
(39:41):
with UH someone from the corporation. They have had some
obviously issued some statements, but we don't know that. So
we'll have Metro Services, Oklahoma Fire Department, Regional Airport Authority,
and Craig Greenberg. We just heard from the governor, which
(40:01):
seemed to not be able to get to hear to
have his own press conference in Frankfurt instead of being
here with everyone else. But that's another story. So we
will go to that as soon as it gets there,
and I think they are going to be a couple
of minutes older. No, we're going to go into Clay
and Buck and once this press conference is over, we're
(40:23):
going to go live to Paul Miles to sort of
get his take because he will have questions for these
guys afterwards.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Dwight, Oh, sorry about that, Mike was off. Yes, it's
going to be interesting to see what information that the
National Transportation Safety Board, if any, have released at this point.
You know, everything we're running on right now is speculation
and secondhand knowledge. But I would think at this press conference,
(40:53):
even though we're under twenty four hours from such a
horrific event, I think that the NTSB is going to
shed some light on this.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Do you want to take a break, Yeah, we can
do that. Take a short break. We'll come back with
the press conference here on news Radio weight forty whas
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Ruthie's Table 4
For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.