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Speaker 1 (00:00):
An earthquake of sorts hit yesterday coming out of the
conclave in the Sistine Chapel. For the first time ever,
not only the first American pope, but the first North
American pope ever was selected, and nobody that I ever
read or heard speculate had him anywhere on their radar.
(00:20):
And we're joined by the official priest of kfab's Morning News,
Father Ryan Lewis, who was with us on the occasion
of Pope Francis's death. Mourning Father Lewis, good to have
you back.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Good morning. In fact, yeah, you had some guy on
saying that there would never be an American pope. Yeah,
you got to get better in the future.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Guy, he's off, you know, way way off. Now, we
decided not because you're a priest and you're closer to
God than most of us. We didn't replay that sequence
that maybe you appear as though you had no idea
what was going on, But that's okay, you know we
it's talk radio. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, you were talk radio because I have egged and
you can't see it, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You were not alone. What do you make of this?
I was very exciting for Americans, certainly for American Catholics. Yeah, well,
what do you make of what happened behind the closed
doors there?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So I think, first of all, we got the right
person to be Pope. His life is so unique. Yes
he's American, but he has lived his life outside of
the United States. I mean many years in Rome working
for his religious ordership in Peru, a missionary, so much
(01:37):
so that he has dual citizenship. He's Provian citizen as
well as an American citizen, and just highly regarded by everybody.
Pope France has brought him to Rome permanently about two
and a half years ago, made him a cardinal, and
he and Frances thought very highly of Cardinal Prevost And
(01:59):
so I just think I think the cardinals were able
to look beyond the fact that he was an American.
I would call him the least American of the Americans,
in the sense that he has done all of his
all of his adult ministry outside of the States. But
but basically they overlooked that and said, this is the
right guy for the job. We don't care where he's from.
(02:19):
We think he's the right man.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
He is an Augustinian. What is that exactly, and what
is the significance of that.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, so it's our second pope in a row who's
from a religious order within the Catholic Church. Francis was
a Jesuit, Leo is A is an Augustinian. So founded
by St. Augustine. This is a smaller order within the
Catholic Church, not as prominent as say the Jesuits or
(02:48):
the Franciscans, or the Dominicans or the Benedictins, but Augustine
was the great preacher. It's a missionary order. So even
though he grew up in Chicago, by becoming an Augustinian,
he kind of said, I'm signing up for missionary work.
I'm signing up to be off in the you know,
(03:09):
in his case Peru for many many years, and but
a real zeal for spreading the Gospel to places where
it's not it's not well known and.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Dun Dae for example.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm wondering are there shadings of are there shadings of
Catholic doctrine among the orders? Because we know the Jesuits
are relatively speaking, fairly liberal, and certainly Francis was what
about the Augustinians. He is largely speculated, by what I've
read so far, to be fairly conservative by comparison, I.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Think he'll I think he'll be a little bit more traditional,
but I wouldn't call him a conservative. I would call
him middle of the road. And I think he's going
to As popes often do, they try to build on
what their predecessors were doing. But I think he'll build
on not only Francis's legacy, but also Benedict and jump
all the seconds. I think he's very much a man
(04:12):
of the church. He came out yesterday and I loved
that he invoked Mary. I loved that he spoke of
his time in Perue, and I loved that he didn't
speak any English, he spoke Italian, he spoke Spanish. By
the way, he's a polygat he speaks numerous languages perfectly,
and that's almost a requirement these days to be pope
(04:34):
is to be multi lingual. And then he invoked Mary
and asked, and we all prayed the Hail Mary with him.
Those are all very traditional things to do as pope.
And Francis had a radical sort of dislike for the
trappings of the office. He always dressed extremely simply. You
(04:57):
saw that Leo came out yesterday under that balcony. He
was a little more traditionally dressed as previous new popes
with dress and he had the mazeta on. But no,
I think it'll be continuity. I think it'll be building
on Francis. And then by thinking the name of Leo,
he's really emphasizing his predecessor, Leo the thirteenth, who really
(05:21):
was the pope during the Industrial Revolution. He really fought
for workers' rights and for social justice, and I think
he took that name with some significance.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It was the Second Industrial Revolution, and it speaks to
his commitment to social justice, but also an understanding that
all of us have to be a part of and
that work is a very important part of a Christian life.
So this is going to be an interesting collision with
the epidemic of social programming and take it easy on
(05:55):
people mentality that has engulfed the world. Ryan Lewis, do
you sense that that's right and that.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Part of human dignity is to work and to uh
really contribute to the building up of the world and
the common good. But that but that work isn't just utility. Uh.
Communism is so destructive to human dignity because it sees
the worker is just uh.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You tell me for you know, for meat to be
grounded up in the service of the state.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, Father Lewis, thank you, always great to have you on.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh my gosh, you guys are the bad.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
We'll give you a chance next time we have a
pulp a bat five hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
This guy probably going to be there for a while, right,
he's sixty nine years old, nine years old.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We could have a long pontific. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Good Father Ryan Lewis here, he's warning those
An earthquake of sorts hit yesterday coming out of the
conclave in the Sistine Chapel. For the first time ever,
not only the first American pope, but the first North
American pope ever was selected, and nobody that I ever
read or heard speculate had him anywhere on their radar.
(00:20):
And we're joined by the official priest of kfab's Morning News,
Father Ryan Lewis, who was with us on the occasion
of Pope Francis's death. Mourning Father Lewis, good to have
you back.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Good morning. In fact, yeah, you had some guy on
saying that there would never be an American pope. Yeah,
you got to get better in the future.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Guy, he's off, you know, way way off. Now, we
decided not because you're a priest and you're closer to
God than most of us. We didn't replay that sequence
that maybe you appear as though you had no idea
what was going on, But that's okay, you know we
it's talk radio. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, you were talk radio because I have egged and
you can't see it, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You were not alone. What do you make of this?
I was very exciting for Americans, certainly for American Catholics. Yeah, well,
what do you make of what happened behind the closed
doors there?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So I think, first of all, we got the right
person to be Pope. His life is so unique. Yes
he's American, but he has lived his life outside of
the United States. I mean many years in Rome working
for his religious ordership in Peru, a missionary, so much
(01:37):
so that he has dual citizenship. He's Provian citizen as
well as an American citizen, and just highly regarded by everybody.
Pope France has brought him to Rome permanently about two
and a half years ago, made him a cardinal, and
he and Frances thought very highly of Cardinal Prevost And
(01:59):
so I just think I think the cardinals were able
to look beyond the fact that he was an American.
I would call him the least American of the Americans,
in the sense that he has done all of his
all of his adult ministry outside of the States. But
but basically they overlooked that and said, this is the
right guy for the job. We don't care where he's from.
(02:19):
We think he's the right man.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
He is an Augustinian. What is that exactly, and what
is the significance of that.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, so it's our second pope in a row who's
from a religious order within the Catholic Church. Francis was
a Jesuit, Leo is A is an Augustinian. So founded
by St. Augustine. This is a smaller order within the
Catholic Church, not as prominent as say the Jesuits or
(02:48):
the Franciscans, or the Dominicans or the Benedictins, but Augustine
was the great preacher. It's a missionary order. So even
though he grew up in Chicago, by becoming an Augustinian,
he kind of said, I'm signing up for missionary work.
I'm signing up to be off in the you know,
(03:09):
in his case Peru for many many years, and but
a real zeal for spreading the Gospel to places where
it's not it's not well known and.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Dun Dae for example.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm wondering are there shadings of are there shadings of
Catholic doctrine among the orders? Because we know the Jesuits
are relatively speaking, fairly liberal, and certainly Francis was what
about the Augustinians. He is largely speculated, by what I've
read so far, to be fairly conservative by comparison, I.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Think he'll I think he'll be a little bit more traditional,
but I wouldn't call him a conservative. I would call
him middle of the road. And I think he's going
to As popes often do, they try to build on
what their predecessors were doing. But I think he'll build
on not only Francis's legacy, but also Benedict and jump
all the seconds. I think he's very much a man
(04:12):
of the church. He came out yesterday and I loved
that he invoked Mary. I loved that he spoke of
his time in Perue, and I loved that he didn't
speak any English, he spoke Italian, he spoke Spanish. By
the way, he's a polygat he speaks numerous languages perfectly,
and that's almost a requirement these days to be pope
(04:34):
is to be multi lingual. And then he invoked Mary
and asked, and we all prayed the Hail Mary with him.
Those are all very traditional things to do as pope.
And Francis had a radical sort of dislike for the
trappings of the office. He always dressed extremely simply. You
(04:57):
saw that Leo came out yesterday under that balcony. He
was a little more traditionally dressed as previous new popes
with dress and he had the mazeta on. But no,
I think it'll be continuity. I think it'll be building
on Francis. And then by thinking the name of Leo,
he's really emphasizing his predecessor, Leo the thirteenth, who really
(05:21):
was the pope during the Industrial Revolution. He really fought
for workers' rights and for social justice, and I think
he took that name with some significance.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It was the Second Industrial Revolution, and it speaks to
his commitment to social justice, but also an understanding that
all of us have to be a part of and
that work is a very important part of a Christian life.
So this is going to be an interesting collision with
the epidemic of social programming and take it easy on
(05:55):
people mentality that has engulfed the world. Ryan Lewis, do
you sense that that's right and that.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Part of human dignity is to work and to uh
really contribute to the building up of the world and
the common good. But that but that work isn't just utility. Uh.
Communism is so destructive to human dignity because it sees
the worker is just uh.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You tell me for you know, for meat to be
grounded up in the service of the state.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, Father Lewis, thank you, always great to have you on.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh my gosh, you guys are the bad.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
We'll give you a chance next time we have a
pulp a bat five hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
This guy probably going to be there for a while, right,
he's sixty nine years old, nine years old.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We could have a long pontific. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Good Father Ryan Lewis here, he's warning those
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