September 11, 2024 • 47 mins
I give you my biggest takeaways from last night (and some people's disappointment in the debate), before getting the thoughts of Kat Timpf (Fox News and author of the new book "I Used to Like You Until..." and Grant "BDE" Mussman ("Blue Dot Energy").
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott vordiez, here's the biggest takeaway from last night's debate.
When I'm hearing from people, when I'm reading in these
Zonkers custom Woods inbox. People started emailing Scott atkfab dot
com last night. People were at our debate viewing party
last night, and thanks again to Rory and the crew
at Ref's Sports Bar and Grill ninety seventh and Giles
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and La Vista for hosting a packed kfab crowd that
enjoyed a great debate and an incredible volleyball game last night.
It was a wonderful time. And people started talking about
this last night, and I'm seeing it on social media today.
It seems that there are a lot of people who
are Trump supporters, or at least not those who are
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Trump detractors, who watched that debate last night, and they
were really upset by one thing that the Vice President
of the United States, who happens to be the candidate
for the Democratic National Party to be potentially the next
president of the United States, seemed competent and people were
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dismayed by this, almost as though she had no business
showing up at this debate last night and having anything
to say. Where does she get off anyway, being competent, professional,
having a grasp of what she was saying. We haven't
heard this kind of thing from her before. What kind
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of Warlock type magic is at play here? And then
people were like, you know, that's it, She's going to
be the next president. All right. Let's focus on that
premise here for a moment in two different ways. Number One,
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let's say that the American people, for whatever reason, maybe
they watched the debate, maybe they're just diehard Democrats, maybe
they followed Taylor Swift to endorse her after the debate.
For whatever reason, America says, yep, I'm with her. Kamala
Harris should be the next commander in chief, the president
of the United States, the leader of the free world.
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All right. If that's because of last night's debate performance,
and a lot of the feeling about that is is
that she was prepared and competent. Okay, good. If look,
President Trump didn't go up there last night and start
battling some first grader. This is someone who could very
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well be the next president. This is someone who, for
the last three and a half years has been a
heartbeat or walking into an open manhole cover away from
being the next president of the United States. I want
her to be competent. All politics and party and all
this stuff that we all immerse ourselves in aside, this
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is my country. Whoever the next president is, I want
to be competent. Now, this isn't me just saying well,
that's it Trump. You know what, is there a way
the Republicans can dump Trump and find another candidate, just
like the Democrats did? Does it have to be Trump?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Can?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We can? We redo? We want a mulligan. We're gonna
go too off the first here on the Republican National Convention.
We're gonna get back together again. We're gonna find another candidate.
We're gonna find someone who can win. I'm not saying that.
You know, there's a reason why the election is still
fifty some days away. People still have a chance to
look at all this decide what they're going to do.
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And there's no telling what the American people can do.
So don't get don't misunderstand that. If if your concept
of me is that I need to be a Trump
cheerleader with pom poms, which by the way, I've never been,
nor have I been a huge detractor of his. I'm
just here talking the talkie talk on the talk radio station.
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I don't look that great and the cheerleader's outfit, try
as I might, but that's not me giving up. That's
me having the perspective of history, which not only shows
that sometimes your candidate wins and sometimes your candidate loses.
More and more people in this country need to figure
that out, because there's too many people that are they
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take a way too personally and they just crumble and
just feel like, well, the next four years of my
life are gone. I also have the perspective of what
happened on this date twenty three years ago. And I
have the perspective of one of my son's closest friends
was one of those who was closest to the shooting
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at Northwest High School yesterday. She saw this happen right
in front of her. And she's not in school today.
No one at Northwest High schools in school today. And
I was talking to my son this morning while driving
him to school. He goes to He doesn't go to Northwest,
he goes to a different school, And I said, does
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what happened yesterday at Northwest make you not want to
go to school? Does it make you nervous about going
to school, and he just kind of shrugged. Did I
mention he's nearly fifteen years old. Everything is just kind
of a shrug. Mostly it's why is my dad talking
to me? Why are you talking? It's kind of what
my son's general attitude is, when are you going to
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stop talking? How polite do I have to be while
you're talking? Before I can just put my face in
a phone and skulk off somewhere. So I'm trying to
talk to my son. He's in the passenger seat next
to me. He can't run away. He said, does what
happened at Northwest make you less likely to go to school?
He kind of shrugged. Eh. I said, well, you know,
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I hate to break it to you, but the truth
of the matter is is that as we're taking a
right turn and heading eastbound directly into the sun that
Lucy Chapman talks about, sunglare a major issue for eastbound
commuters this morning. I said, we're more more likely to
get in an accident turning here under this road with
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the sun blinding us, and something bad happening here while
taking you to school. That is much more likely to
happen than any problem happening in school. Not to downplay
one or the other. It's just reality. And I said,
and if you let the crippling fear of well, I
don't want to go out anywhere. We might get in
a car accident, there might be a school shooting. I
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might get hit by a falling piano. The terrorists might attack.
As soon as you stop living your life, that's when
the bad guys win. They don't want you to be vigilant,
be ready to fight back. They don't want you to
go out and live your life. They don't want you
to do it because that means they win and they
take control. This is I said, by the way, son,
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this is one of the lessons we learned twenty three
years ago today on September eleventh, with the terrorist attacks.
It's not easy. If it was easy, everyone would do it.
But you got too many people too afraid to go outside.
And you have too many people who today, maybe let's
say they're big time Trump supporters, and they watched that
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debate last night and they're like, oh, no, she's competent,
and they thought, well, that's it. I told you before
the debate. In fact, I said last night at the
debate viewing party. I grabbed the microphone, thanked everyone for coming,
said hey, who's ready to watch Kamala Harris destroy Donald
Trump and the debate tonight? And everyone you know a
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lot of Trump supporters there last night. So boom groan,
what's the matter with you? I said, Hey, I'm just
reading the head tomorrow morning. I said, you got to
watch that debate and decide for yourself last night, because
the media is gonna They don't want you to watch it.
They don't want you to be engaged. They want you
to give up, because when you give up, the bad
guys win. They want to tell you exactly what happened
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last night. They want you to forget about four years
of Trump's presidency versus three and a half years of
the Biden Harris presidency. They want you to somehow think
that what happened under Trump didn't really happen under Trump.
He was just riding a wave of Obama and left
Biden and Harris a bunch of garbage and they had
to clean it up and now everything's fine. If that's
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the way you feel, you know who you're voting for
on November five. But I think a lot of people
last night three women specifically I talked to. They said, well,
I think that's it. Trump didn't do very well, and
I think a lot of women are going to end
up voting for Kamala Harris. And these are Trump supporting women.
And they all said the same variations, the same thing.
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Trump didn't do well and women are going to vote
for Kamala. And I said to each of them, are
you going to vote for Kamla?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
No, I'm still a Trump supporter, all right. So to
that mindset, who is this mythical group of fantasy women?
Trust me, I fantasize about women all the time. Did
I say that out loud? I'm just saying that I
have a pretty good imagination. I haven't been able to
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fantasize some wonder woman like land of women who are
out there like jousting and lassoing and swimming and running
and doing horseback stuff, all of this topless, and at
the same time, they still don't have any idea who
they're going to vote for on November fifth. Who are
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these undecided people out there? Just like my scenario, they
don't exist, but in my mind they don't exist. So
these people walking out of there going well, that's it.
All these undecided women are going to vote for Kamala. Now,
I don't think there are all these undecided women or
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men or whatever two spirit eighty seventh gender we're gonna
come up with today. I don't think they exist. So
the debate last night was interesting, it was entertaining. I
thought it was fun, But how did it really change
anyone's vote? The only vote that might change are the
people who watched that turned off the TV or radio
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and said, well, I don't think Trump can win, so
I'm not gonna go vote. Why bother? That's exactly what
they want you to think. Scott Voice, News Radio eleven ten,
kfab welcoming on, writer, comedian, Fox News commentator, mostly you
see here on Gutfeld on Fox weeknights at nine o'clock
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Central Time, and the author of a brand new book
called I Used to Like You until How binary thinking
divides us. This goes into what I was talking about
at the start of the program. Everyone takes politics so personally,
we try and make enemies out of frands constantly. Kat
Temp joins us here on news radio eleven ten KFA
B Kat, good morning, good morning. Now, you and I
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are not the oldest people have ever lived. But why
do you think in our lifetime as gen xers? And
I put you on the are you gen X or
you jen y?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I'm a millennial.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I'm a millennial, all right, So I'm old. You're very
very young in hip. Sorry to call attention to that.
Why do you think in our lifetimes though, that people
take politics so personally?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
It is really sad, right, I mean, politics makes us
fight with people who we know in our real lives
on behalf of people who don't even care that we
exist or know that we exist. Many of us want
a lot of it. I think it's a misconception. We're
being conditioned into this. Many of us we really want
a lot of the same thing, but we just have
different ideas of how to get there. And if you
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want to win over or connect with someone who's different
from you, then the best way to do that is
to focus on what you have in commons. First, we've
been conditioned to believe that just because someone's in the
opposite political party, or maybe even as a different view
on one single issue, that we're just not going to
agree with them on anything. But that's not true. And
this book is basically a guide for people to connect
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because we and I think this is really important to
be Also, we do have a lot to lose here.
The conditioning of these two sides of this binary thinking.
It works great for the government and media in terms
of gaining more power and more control. They can use
division and make you think it's a great idea to
give up your own rights, for example. So if you
really want to learn how to get along with and
win people over, that's why I wrote this book. This
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book is definitely a guide for how.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
To do that. Now people say like, oh, you're just
giving up and you want to seed control of whatever
issue to the other side just to get along with them.
You're not saying, don't have a good robust conversation to
fight for you your.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Side, right, No, of course not, of course not. But
don't think that your robust disagreement on one issue means
that you and that person, that that that entire person
is back that entire person, and you will find no
agreement on anything ever, or that that entire person is
not a person at all. I mean what I do
in this book is I put a lot, I put
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a lot of my personal experiences out there in this book. Okay,
a lot of things I talk about openly that I
haven't talked about before for two reasons. Number one, it
makes the book very entertaining. There's a lot of very fun,
entertaining stories in this book. But also because I think
vulnerability is going to be a huge tool and a
huge way out of this mess. You know, I think
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that being vulnerable makes it more likely someone's going to
have compassion for you and listen to you. And if
you want to be seen as a human, you have
to be willing to show that you are a human.
And I really do think that's a huge way out
of this message. The person that you're arguing with about
a certain political view is not that view that you
disagree with. That's a whole complex person. I mean, if
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hues are often nuanced and complex, and people always are.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
So if you're trying to convince people that there's someone
who has a different political thought or identity than you
and they're not completely a bad person. You're not exactly
a Trump supporter, you're not a huge Trump detractor. You know,
you share your thoughts on whatever, But how would you
tell those who think that Trump is the second coming
of Satan himself how would you convince them that maybe
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you don't see Trump, for example, or his voters as
the worst people who've ever been you know.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
And I think that the reason I'm very lucky because
I have very close friends obviously who are huge Trump supporters,
and the things that I hear in the media about
who Trump supporters are, I know that that's simply not accurate.
It's by getting to know people, but honestly, it's by
leading with vulnerability. It's by willing to show that you
are a human. Don't then go and say, okay, well, well,
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if you're going to think I'm this, then I might
as well be it. And anybody who's a liberal is
a bad person, because that's also not the case. You
have to be willing to put yourself out there a
little bit. You have to be willing, you know, to
be wrong, and instead of being judgmental, to be kind
of curious, because you know, I've had our very interesting parties,
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because I have friends from all over the side of
the political spectrum, where of all my super left wing
friends meeting people who are on air at Fox News
right and a lot of them say, okay, this person
was actually very nice. I actually had a very nice
time with this person. That changes people's mind and perspective,
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you know, a lot more than what if you know
somebody comes in, its like, Oh, I'm not talking to
you because you're a liberal. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I absolutely do. And I love that we're having this
conversation with kat temp new book is called I Used
to Like You Until She's with us for a couple
more minutes here on eleven ten kfab I liked that
we're having this conversation on the twenty third anniversary of
the nine to eleven attacks, And if I'm not mistaken,
as we look both at the past and to the
future of what we want to leave our children, if
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I'm not mistaken, You're going to be a new mom
here pretty soon. So is part of this book and
trying to have people come together a little bit part
of that push pull of what we've seen in this country,
how we can to get together and what we hope
for the future.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Well, you know, I wrote this book before I found
out I was pregnant, and a lot of the book
I write about how terrified I am at the thought
of being pregnant, but I'm very excited to be pregnant.
I am welcoming a baby in February. But I do
get scared. I do get scared that, you know, I'm
bringing a baby into this world where it's somehow the
most horrific thing in the world to think independently. And
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this is a country that was supposed to be founded
on individual rights, and I really would like it if
we could get back to that. And I honestly know
for a fact that we'd be a better country if
everybody read this book. So I really hope there's something
anybody can gain from this book. And also you'll be
entertained while you're reading it, So I really really hope
that people will check it out, whether it's the book
or the audiobook, which I narrate myself. I put a
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lot into this book, and I really that's for a reason.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Can you give me your thirty forty five second assessment
on last night's debate please.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Well. I think that both sides, I mean, here's the thing.
I think that one side was expecting that he was
Trump was going to yell at her and just be
like screaming at her and be like horribly mean, and
the other side was kind of saying Kym wasn't being
able to form a full sentence. The bar was set
very low for both of these people. They've ended up
doing better than the very low bar that was set
for both of them.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I think we're the ones who set the bar. We've
got to get some mirrors out and this book. I
used to like you until how binary thinking devides us.
Kat Timp from Fox News, thank you so much for
the time today.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
To set up our guest in the studio. Takes a
little bit of explanation. We were talking the other day.
There was a news story I forget which of the
TV stations had it, and they talked with one of
the individuals who said, we just did this because, you know,
we thought it was kind of cute and funny. Then
all of our neighbors said we want one, and now
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we've got thousands and thousands of signs were making. It
was a white sign with a blue circle in the middle,
the blue dot representing how Nebraska's second district here in
Omaha is a blue dot against a red background in
the electoral college map, as has been the case. I mean,
this second district has voted for Trump. It's voted for Obama.
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I don't have any idea what's going to happen on
any electoral College dot anywhere in the country, throughout whatever
happens on election Day, but I know that these signs
started popping up. And the first thing I said on
the radio was, I wonder if some people think that
it indicates that there are swingers that live there. And
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we did a little bit on that, and some people
thought it was funny. So I did a Facebook post
and said, yeah, the new way to find out whether
a house welcomes swingers. The pineapples are out. It's now
a white sign with a blue dot. And I think
some people got the joke, some people didn't get the joke.
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Some people got the joke but didn't think it was
funny or that I should be allowed to exist. And
as it turns out, there's an entire Blue Dot Energy
BDE Facebook page that, for part of the evening on
Monday afternoon Monday evening was pretty much dedicated to how
bad I am. Well, we've got one of the individuals
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here from this whole BDE movement in the studio, Grant
Mooseman is here, and Grant, it's great to have you
in here.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I'm honored to be here, and I have to clarify
I am here as a private US God Bless America citizen.
I was the first person that spun up that group.
But that's a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, you don't claim to speak for everyone who has
blue or purple leanings or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Well, Red, I've been on both sides of the fence.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Okay, Well let's start there here. What what caused you
to move one way or the other? And because it
does it rhyme with Brump, Yes, I vote.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I When the day he won I registered Republican because
if you can't beat him, join him. And I did
not care for that president, or maybe it was when
he won the primary. But the answer to your question
is in Nebraska, if you want to vote in the
red primary, you have to be a red member. And
if you want to vote in the blue primary today
you can be a non partisan or a blue member. Yes,
and that has not always been true, and so Clinton Obama.
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I wanted to weigh in, Heinemann Osbourne. I wanted to
weigh in so some of the key vosis I'm as
despite starting this group and where my current opinions are,
I'm pretty darn moderate.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, Well, I think most people have certain leanings on
certain issues, but you know they might lean a little
bit this way on that one, a little that way
on that one. But it seems like, certainly in the
dawn and the era of Trump, everyone's got to take
it very, very personally, and we've got to fight with
each other all the time.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I had Cat Timf on the show an hour ago.
She's from Fox News, but she's a libertarian who has
no problem being provocative against anybody. She's really funny and
I love her comments. And her new book is all
about like trying not to make enemies out of friends.
You got to find someone of a different political persuasion
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than you and try and find common ground. Now, I
wore a blue shirt for you today, and I wore
a red shirt, and you came in here wearing a
red shirt. Now it's a Husker red shirt. Yeah yeah,
but I think everyone looks at it as a make
America Great again Husker red shirt? Right? Is that not
the intention? I'm gon try and get you kicked out
of your blue dot Energy Facebook group, but the other
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admins that could kick me out, here's here's here's The
other thing I did. I did a little social media
stalking on you. You see who we have in common as
friends on Facebook a lot of people. And I was
looking over your stuff and I don't know the context,
but a few years ago you posted back to back
pictures of Vanilla Ice and Sir Mix a Lot, and
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it's I don't remember the content. It seems like it
was just just random pictures. I didn't know what it
had to do with here, you know, post the album
covers of the albums that meant the most of you
growing up. But I figured, if you're posting pictures of
Vanilla Ice and Sir Mix a Lot, we can be friends.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Oh did I say any words?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Or no? There were nothing. It was just here's it
was Sir Mix a Lot's Baby Got Back, and then
the Vanilla Ice album cover, from which the song Ice
Ice Baby springs forth.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I was born in nineteen eighty and those were influential songs. Genuinely,
you want to sing one, I could do the entire
Ice Ice Baby, but a bum boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
No, all right, stop collaborate and listen. Is is back
with a brand new inventtion sorright, you and I can
be friends. All right, So you watched the debate last night.
Did you have any expectations going into watching this debate,
and if so, where they met.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah. I expected uh, Donald Trump to appear senile closer
to Joe Biden because that's what a certain side was
telling me, And I expected Kamala to stumble through her
words because that's what a certain side was telling me.
And neither of those were true. My expectations were one
hundred percent met. While I have an opinion, like you
said in one of your previous segments, I want the
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president to be competent and articulate, and we've had less
than competent and articulate presidents in the past, and so yeah,
I thought my expectations were met, probably exceeded by both
both candidates.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Did you want Biden to drop out of the race
and Kamala to be anointed?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I wish it would have happened pre primary, but yes.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So when you say we've had presidents in the past
who were not competent, not articulate, what do you think
about our current president. He's not at his prime, that's it,
and he moved aside. So now we've got a new race.
We don't want to look past. We're going to look forward.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
But it was unfortunate the circumstances that that happened. But
it's also they played according to the rules of the game.
I have said, and I'm on the record that I
wish the Red side had not gone in the direction
they went, because I don't find that person a unifier,
which I think is a role of the president to
be a great communicator. And I've been offended before by words.
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The one where he made fun of the disabled person
was probably a joke, but it hurt.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, I'm not here to defend Trump or anything, but
you're talking about when he was up there, you know,
moving his arms, flailing his arms and straying I don't remember,
and all that stuff. And the person he was talking
about was has some sort of disability. Trump has done
things like that about other people who don't have cerebral
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palsy before. That's you know, people look at that and go, oh,
that's just Trump being Trump. And there are some people
who find it endearing, and some people say, is there
anything else we can do in this country? So you
representing a private citizen who happens to be attached to
this blue dote Energy Facebook group. What do you think
about Kamala Harris in terms of what her accomplishments are, Like,
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what makes you excited to vote for her? And if
you could put this in a frame of reference without
mentioning that just because she's not Trump she's worth voting for.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, because that's not my reason. It's also not because
she's been vice president. I mean that's part of it.
But name me your favorite vice president, maybe other than LBJ,
who got some very important legislation past. So I just
think the role of vice it is a pretty quiet
one yet being one heartbeat or falling in a manhole.
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I'll quote somebody I heard. Yeah, absolutely, I am a listener.
I move a lot, but I listen when I can.
So my reasons for supporting Kamala are very very simple,
and they are a contrast to the other alternative. I
am not a financial voter. I kind of am a
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social rights voter. And I'm scared for my gay uncles,
three of them that certain things just like Roe v.
Wade would be repealed. But my real reason is because
they have their hands on the nuclear codes and Trump
has been there and done that, and I was scared
for four years. And it's not that it's it's it's
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character and decision making. And I view this to not
be a very I think there can be false equivocation
by some, and I don't view it that way.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Trump once thumbeds knows that a Muslim majority nation by
putting a gay US ambassador as ambassador to that nation,
by by basically telling them like, look, this is not
the way that you need to treat people like this.
And meanwhile, as the other side says, we need more
and more people from these nations coming in here. But
let's ignore the Pulse nightclub shooting. You know, that kind
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of thing.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
You can't do either.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
So so when you say, like, I'm concerned about my
three gay uncles, I don't know what roe versus weight
has to do with that.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Give me I'm worried that they can't get married because
that's a federal.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So you're saying a roe vwwade like that, that's what
I mean. Yeah, not rov No, there's no, there's no.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I think just clarifying on all this stuff here. So
I don't I don't get the impression that Trump is
like ready to go in there and say all right,
no more gay marriage, and that's that's enough of that.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
No, but I think some people that are affiliated with
him are And by the way, the Roe Vwade thing
troubles many people in my community, it doesn't trouble me
as much because fundamentally it's about state rights. Now. State
rights need to conform to their own constitutions, which will
get challenged, and they need to conform with the US Constitution.
And I do think Vice President Harris made some points
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on the state level that were interesting, and I don't
think they were answered by President Trump. But that's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Talking here with Grant Mossman, private citizen, who also happens
to I'm just relating this to the citizen US citizen.
Thank you for clarifying part of the you say you
were patients zero of the blue Dot Energy Facebook page.
This goes back to the blue dot being there for Obama.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That is absolutely correct. All I did was spun up
a Facebook page and put the word energy next to it,
which I actually have to give my co founder, Ryan
was the one that brought the word energy. He was
membered seven and he's now the admin and co founder.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, and he's very funny and interesting guy. Here he's
run for some stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
He ran. He ran for regent, so I says, you
mentioned that his name is Ryan Wilkins. He ran against
hal Dab for regents, so I thought it was a
tough race. And then he asked, I think this is public.
He asked some stuff about the days that there needed
to be an appointment to the West Side school Board.
So I don't think that's conveying something I shouldn't know
a faith so Ryan Old told me.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, he was the one who I went back on
the page and was playfully sparring with some of the
people on the page. There After they got mad at
my pineapple relation of the Swinger thing.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Some of them asked for you to be banned, and
I don't believe we did that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Well, I I'm not a member of the group. It's
just it's a public forum. You don't have to be.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, no, I think that's a good clarification. Yeah you can.
Anybody can comment. If it's not in movement, it's not
if it's not aligned with the movement, if it's MAGA,
we're very open that it probably will not be allowed
to be on the page because which it's.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Certain, which is fair. But I posted on there because
there are a lot of people because I related it
to swingers and people are like, why are you conservatives
also obsessed with sex? And I said, you know, your
page is a riff on B d E right, like
big energy. And Ryan Wilkins was like, how dare you
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and did the mock like I'm offended.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
How dare you? Because he's the one that he knew
the acronym, and my former spouse had to tell me.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I thought that was really funny. He was playing.
He was fighting satire with satire on that one. I
appreciate that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Look, let me say one more thing about it. And
he's incredibly articulate. Not that we can both not that
both of us can't make comments, but when it's a
longer form comment. He's an attorney by trade, and so
he's wonderful. But I've done a lot of radio, so
I'm here with you.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
See.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I I tried four years ago to when we had
people putting up signs, you know, I support this candidate
for Congress or president or whatever, and they were right
across the street from someone else who was trying to
put up a bigger sign. Well, I support the other candidate.
And I've always kind of traded politics as like Nebraska
(30:57):
Oklahoma football or Nebraska Iowa football. You do a little
smack talk, it's playful, you don't make it hateful or personal,
and then you go drink a beer, watch the game,
and you cheer for your side.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And you have a lot of vested interest in who wins.
For a year.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Sure, oh yeah, absolutely, but it doesn't have to be
like you know, we take it personally and try and fight.
So I actually reached out to and I don't know,
she wants me to mention this in the radio, so
so in that instance, I didn't. But I actually reached
out to and got some level of potential support from
state Senator Making Hunt, And I said, I want to
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do a series of videos where you and I go
out and talk to neighbors who've got opposing signs either
right across the street or Caddy corner or you know,
next door to each other, and just talk to those
neighbors and be like, oh, yeah, you know, he's a
MAGA extremist terrorist, but you know what, you know, he
always lets me borrow his weed trimmer when mine breaks down.
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He is a good guy, and his wife makes the
best salsa. I wanted to do stuff like that, so
I started going door to door and talking to people,
and you know what, I found out, I don't want
to talk to that guy and it I was so
dismayed by that. How do we get more people to
not start making enemies out of neighbors and family members
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and co workers? How do we do this?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
If I knew the answer, i'd be a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
But well, that's why I brought you in. But i'd
be I thought you had all the answers.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, but i'd be if I wouldn't do you justice
if I didn't give thoughts. I was advised people knew
I was coming on your show, and the only advice
I was given is to slow down your cadence because
I'm a fast talker. And I think that's a part
of it. That I was asked to move to China,
and I was quick in my response, and it was
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not satire. I mean, it was a little I said,
I'm not sure how I move eight thousand people to China,
and I'm not sure that that's good for the local economy.
And that person has yet to comment back.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
But I would have responded in Mandarin Chinese.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Please do I don't even know to do that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I know a lot of Google translators, but have them
look it up.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah. No, but that's the first thing. The second thing
is continue to make friends across the aisle. Maybe not
all the way across the aisle. Maybe not. You know,
I didn't realize you actually sat at least on the
state of the Union left and right? Do they do that?
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Like?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Is that how they assemble on every day? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I I think so.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah. I've been there for a session of Congress and
I saw Tom Osbourne looking very very bored.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I saw Tom Osborne looking very tired. I got the
first time I ever got upgraded because I used to
fly a lot when I was working for a consulting company.
I got the opportunity to get upgraded and sat next
to Tom. And that's this whole segment by itself.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Oh he's the best, He's absolutely the best.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
He's the goat.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
He was so bored in Congress.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Saban might be the goat, but he was he was bored.
And when I saw him, he was tired.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Because we see, now we have a problem. You put
Saban over Osborn.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
No, I wouldn't because I'm a Husker fan. But Saban's
in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
He's on Mount Rishman.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
All right, Okay, you know he's kind of a conservative.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
No, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, so was Osburn.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I did do that. Okay, then you're since you went there,
I have to go quick. I said, the only the
only president that's balanced the budget since nineteen eighty in
my lifetime is Bill Clinton. And he said he couldn't
have done it. In fact, I don't give it in
as much credit as I give Newton. And I said, fair.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Have you seen the or would you see the Reagan movie?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, there's he meets Tip O'Neil and they have a
little polite sparring session and uh, he says, well, I
hope you're ready for a fight. And Reagan said, yeah,
until six o'clock every day. And why what happens at six? Well,
six o'clock, we clock out, we go get a beer,
and we're just a couple of Irish guys.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Reagan didn't say that. I don't believe, because I don't
believe he was a drinker. I think he would say
I don't. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he'd say,
let's get together over Eminem's yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Well, uh yeah, no jelly beans Okay, yeah, jelly beans
is Reagan's thing. But I think the tone was there,
and that's what I got from watching the movie and
also reading Speaker Tip O'Neil's book Man of the House,
is they battled all day, but at some point you
have to realize, like I'm going to win some, you're
going to win some. We can't get what we want.
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How boring would that be. Let's have a good have
a good battle here, and then let's go get a drink.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Or something has happened to break that down, all.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Right, I owe you a drink for coming in and
chatting with me to.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, no, what you owe me is I would go.
I would go interview people with you, and we should
do that on something live, YouTube live, I would. And
the other one is if you need me, call me
and I'll come back.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
All right, Grant, I really enjoy talking to you. We'll
do this again absolutely.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
The day that I would like to do it, if
we don't do it before, which I don't think we will,
would be the day after the election.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Let's see, you're a busy.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
The man you're a busy man. Will we can go
a week after the election.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
We'll see all right, stand by, all right, that's Grant Mossman,
Blue Dot Energy, but US citizen here on news radio
eleven ten KFA B Scott News Radio eleven tien kfab
lucy in five seconds or last, give me all your
thoughts on the debate.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Go, I was sleeping.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
While you were sleeping. The former president and the current
vice president had a chat.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I heard about that. I saw a very very different
person there, like completely different.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Which who with the vice president? Not the same person
we've seen over the last few years.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
No, but I think it explains her absence. There's been
an absent quite a bit the last several weeks. Get
this stuff down practice.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well, if you're gonna, I mean, I would if you're
going to come out as a brand new person who
doesn't have any of the same opinions you used to have,
and you don't.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You've changed every opinion she's ever had.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
And you you don't want to be tied to the
person who you've been toting. As we look at all
the great economy we have and the great jobs and everything,
and how we're respected the world over but at the
same time, I don't want you to remember me as
the person who stood alongside the current president saying he's
great and he's going to be another four years as
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the greatest president ever. We need to have you see
me as part of all the good, but not part
of some of the questions related to this or the
number of people come in through our border, something that
I was tasked with overseeing and during that time, we
had record numbers of people coming across our border. But
(37:37):
also realize, I'm a person who's gonna do something about
all those things that didn't get done the way you like.
Don't worry, I'm gonna do him. I'm not going to
tell you how. But let's also remember I'm not Trump,
so that if you're going to come out forged as
a new individual, it does take some time. This is
not an overnight process.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
But a lot of the stuff that she's talking about,
she could be at least getting the ball rolling now,
and it doesn't appear that that is the case. And
I did wake up and see just a small clip
of it where they were talking about abortion and IVF
and I just I was I'm stunned because she just
continues to tout the lie that he is going to
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get rid of IVF. That's exactly the opposite of what
he has said. Yes, and as far as the abortion laws,
she would not answer the question when he asked her,
what is seven months, eight months, nine months? So that's
what I find. Finally, that's the little bit that I saw.
I said, Dan interested.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Her supporters don't want her to put a fine point
on that. And it's not because I don't believe that
there are a bunch of people out there who are,
you know, willing baby killers. You know, I don't believe that. Yeah,
you can look on both sides and find some pretty
interesting thoughts and views on both sides. But what I think,
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and this is me giving a tremendous amount of benefit
of the doubt to those who say, well, we need
to have certain protections available up to the ninth month.
It's because they've been conditioned, or they can imagine a
scenario where a woman's life is in danger, or she
just found out she was pregnant after thirty nine weeks
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with her brother's baby aunt, or just they'll come up
with some scenario that doesn't exist, and they'll they'll then
they'll be told some evil old white guy is going
to deny her that right, and so if that condition exists,
therefore then we can never put any restrictions on this ever,
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because it might be that someone never mind the fact
that this is not why this process happens. This is
not not for these reasons or anything like that. So
as long as they can convince them, well, I'm doing
the right thing for this person that doesn't exist, then
they can stand by. And they don't want Kamala Harris
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to put a restriction on it, because then suddenly if well,
I think seven months is too late, oh well, at
five months their's and then you can look at what's
happening here with the fetus, with the baby in the womb,
fingers and toes, heart beat, all this stuff. Why is that? Okay,
now we start moving. That's why when they press these
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guys on would you do this at what point all this,
they don't want to answer that question.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Well, if you go by just the lay of the law,
the way that the Supreme Court knocked down Roby White,
all they did was give it back to the States.
And I know that you know that, and I know
that that has been said. I was in an fifty times.
That's the only thing that has changed. So then the candidates,
these two Trump and Harris, they don't really need to
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put an end date on when they think that that
restrict should be because it doesn't sit in the federal
government anymore. That's the only thing Roe v. Way did, Right.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
That's why I just.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Gave it back to the states. Go talk to all
of your states.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
That's why Kamala was pressing Trump on would you sign
and the moderators too, would you sign a national abortion band?
And Trump was accurate in saying it'll never happen. With
the way that Congress works and how all of this
would need to happen, that will never happen. It's like, hey,
would you ride a unicorn? There isn't one. I want
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you to answer the question, you know, it's would.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
That's not a good analogy because if he said yes,
I would ride a unicorn, knowing that there never would be,
it wouldn't matter because the people who supported unicorns would say, oh,
there you go.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
I know.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Let's talk about how the debate started and what happened
immediately afterwards.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
I'm talking about at the party.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
No, no, not at Ref's last night and thanks again
to all those Oh and that reminds me I'm supposed
to give a shout out to a couple of dudes.
Thanks to everyone who came out to Refs Sports Bar
and Grill last night, and thanks again to Rory and
his staff are working so hard to accommodate a place
that was standing room only an hour and a half
before the debate started, and taking care of everyone all night.
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It was a lot of fun. We watched a really
good debate and we watched an even better volleyball game,
so it was super fun last night. And I met
William and Max, a couple of young guys that listened
to KFAB any chance they get, And I said really
and they said absolutely. I'm like, you look like decent
(42:45):
people to me. But thanks a lot for listening. So
thank you to William and Max for listening to news
Radio eleven ten KFAB. Now I learned on the Emery
Songer Show yesterday there was a Vegas line as to
whether or not these candidates would shake hands before the
debate started. There's a line for it. You can bet
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on anything. Now. When Trump and Biden started their debate,
you know they bring him out from both sides. There's
not really a chance for them to meet in the
middle because of how they come out. But I said,
because I was on the radio with Emery a little
bit yesterday and he says, do you think they'll shake hands?
And said, I hope they do. I would, well, it
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was and I didn't if if you'd ask me who
would initiate it, I would have thought Trump would probably
initiate it, because I didn't feel like and if Trump
initiated it, Kamala's supporters would not support her shaking his
hand that somehow legitimizes him. But I think that they
really loved what she did. She's the one who crossed
(43:49):
the stage, went over to her and said, hi, Kamala
Harris because they've never met, and I thought that was
a really interesting way to start. And some people are like, ah,
she immediately threw him off his game. And that's funny
because the same people who think that Trump was off
his game last night are the same ones who for
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nine years have said this guy is a rambling, unfocused mess,
that's his game, and then last night they say, well,
he was a rambling, focused mess. He was off his game.
Like you can't have it both ways, this is what
this is one of your concerns about him. I saw
the same guy I've seen for almost a decade, but
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I think that he was probably surprised she came over
and said, Hi, Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
I doubt it. This is the art of the deal guy.
This is the guy who has been dealing with business
leaders and world leaders for years. He knows exactly what
she did. She was disarming her opponent.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
That could be good, but I thought, I think that's
great that she did though. I thought it was great. Yeah, fine,
you know, and then here's how it ended. We finally
got that endorsement that everyone was waiting on. And I
don't know that it really affects how anyone's going to vote, but.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Well, the sixteen and unders a childless.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Cat lady, right, there's a lot of fourteen year old
girls very anxious to vote in this election because a
childless cat lady supports the Harris Walls ticket. And that
would be Taylor Swift, who signed her endorsement on social
media with love and hope. Taylor Swift childless cat lady.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Well, good for her, that's excellent.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
She says that she became a Kamala Harris supporter after
the debate tonight, which is bull but she says, also,
I was made aware that there was an AI of me,
supposedly me endorsing Trump. No one believes that, but she
felt like I need to set the record straight. No
you don't, But she says, I will be casting my
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vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walls in the twenty
twenty four presidential election because she fights for the and causes.
I believe we need a warrior to champion them. What
because she fights for the rights and causes I believe, Oh,
I believe need a warrior to champion them. I'm sure
this was proofred before she posted it. I'm sorry I
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screwed it up, says. I think she's a steady handed,
gifted leader, and I believe we can accomplish so much
more in this country if we're led by a calm,
led by calm and not chaos. She says. Also, they're
standing up for lgbt Q plus rights IVF and a
woman's right to her own body.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
So right, so the whole make the choices of for
your body on your own. The government can tell you
how to what to do to your body.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I know it's always an inconvenient thing, like my body,
my choice. I don't I don't want a vaccine. No, no, no,
you don't get to make me a choice. Yeah, I'm
just clarifying, absolutely right, that's the assessment of Taylor Swift.
I don't know that there's anyone going well. I was
going to vote for Trump, but now the Taylor Swift
thinks him. Scott Voye
Scott vordiez, here's the biggest takeaway from last night's debate.
When I'm hearing from people, when I'm reading in these
Zonkers custom Woods inbox. People started emailing Scott atkfab dot
com last night. People were at our debate viewing party
last night, and thanks again to Rory and the crew
at Ref's Sports Bar and Grill ninety seventh and Giles
(00:22):
and La Vista for hosting a packed kfab crowd that
enjoyed a great debate and an incredible volleyball game last night.
It was a wonderful time. And people started talking about
this last night, and I'm seeing it on social media today.
It seems that there are a lot of people who
are Trump supporters, or at least not those who are
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Trump detractors, who watched that debate last night, and they
were really upset by one thing that the Vice President
of the United States, who happens to be the candidate
for the Democratic National Party to be potentially the next
president of the United States, seemed competent and people were
(01:14):
dismayed by this, almost as though she had no business
showing up at this debate last night and having anything
to say. Where does she get off anyway, being competent, professional,
having a grasp of what she was saying. We haven't
heard this kind of thing from her before. What kind
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of Warlock type magic is at play here? And then
people were like, you know, that's it, She's going to
be the next president. All right. Let's focus on that
premise here for a moment in two different ways. Number One,
(01:56):
let's say that the American people, for whatever reason, maybe
they watched the debate, maybe they're just diehard Democrats, maybe
they followed Taylor Swift to endorse her after the debate.
For whatever reason, America says, yep, I'm with her. Kamala
Harris should be the next commander in chief, the president
of the United States, the leader of the free world.
(02:20):
All right. If that's because of last night's debate performance,
and a lot of the feeling about that is is
that she was prepared and competent. Okay, good. If look,
President Trump didn't go up there last night and start
battling some first grader. This is someone who could very
(02:41):
well be the next president. This is someone who, for
the last three and a half years has been a
heartbeat or walking into an open manhole cover away from
being the next president of the United States. I want
her to be competent. All politics and party and all
this stuff that we all immerse ourselves in aside, this
(03:04):
is my country. Whoever the next president is, I want
to be competent. Now, this isn't me just saying well,
that's it Trump. You know what, is there a way
the Republicans can dump Trump and find another candidate, just
like the Democrats did? Does it have to be Trump?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Can?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We can? We redo? We want a mulligan. We're gonna
go too off the first here on the Republican National Convention.
We're gonna get back together again. We're gonna find another candidate.
We're gonna find someone who can win. I'm not saying that.
You know, there's a reason why the election is still
fifty some days away. People still have a chance to
look at all this decide what they're going to do.
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And there's no telling what the American people can do.
So don't get don't misunderstand that. If if your concept
of me is that I need to be a Trump
cheerleader with pom poms, which by the way, I've never been,
nor have I been a huge detractor of his. I'm
just here talking the talkie talk on the talk radio station.
(04:07):
I don't look that great and the cheerleader's outfit, try
as I might, but that's not me giving up. That's
me having the perspective of history, which not only shows
that sometimes your candidate wins and sometimes your candidate loses.
More and more people in this country need to figure
that out, because there's too many people that are they
(04:28):
take a way too personally and they just crumble and
just feel like, well, the next four years of my
life are gone. I also have the perspective of what
happened on this date twenty three years ago. And I
have the perspective of one of my son's closest friends
was one of those who was closest to the shooting
(04:50):
at Northwest High School yesterday. She saw this happen right
in front of her. And she's not in school today.
No one at Northwest High schools in school today. And
I was talking to my son this morning while driving
him to school. He goes to He doesn't go to Northwest,
he goes to a different school, And I said, does
(05:12):
what happened yesterday at Northwest make you not want to
go to school? Does it make you nervous about going
to school, and he just kind of shrugged. Did I
mention he's nearly fifteen years old. Everything is just kind
of a shrug. Mostly it's why is my dad talking
to me? Why are you talking? It's kind of what
my son's general attitude is, when are you going to
(05:35):
stop talking? How polite do I have to be while
you're talking? Before I can just put my face in
a phone and skulk off somewhere. So I'm trying to
talk to my son. He's in the passenger seat next
to me. He can't run away. He said, does what
happened at Northwest make you less likely to go to school?
He kind of shrugged. Eh. I said, well, you know,
(06:00):
I hate to break it to you, but the truth
of the matter is is that as we're taking a
right turn and heading eastbound directly into the sun that
Lucy Chapman talks about, sunglare a major issue for eastbound
commuters this morning. I said, we're more more likely to
get in an accident turning here under this road with
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the sun blinding us, and something bad happening here while
taking you to school. That is much more likely to
happen than any problem happening in school. Not to downplay
one or the other. It's just reality. And I said,
and if you let the crippling fear of well, I
don't want to go out anywhere. We might get in
a car accident, there might be a school shooting. I
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might get hit by a falling piano. The terrorists might attack.
As soon as you stop living your life, that's when
the bad guys win. They don't want you to be vigilant,
be ready to fight back. They don't want you to
go out and live your life. They don't want you
to do it because that means they win and they
take control. This is I said, by the way, son,
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this is one of the lessons we learned twenty three
years ago today on September eleventh, with the terrorist attacks.
It's not easy. If it was easy, everyone would do it.
But you got too many people too afraid to go outside.
And you have too many people who today, maybe let's
say they're big time Trump supporters, and they watched that
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debate last night and they're like, oh, no, she's competent,
and they thought, well, that's it. I told you before
the debate. In fact, I said last night at the
debate viewing party. I grabbed the microphone, thanked everyone for coming,
said hey, who's ready to watch Kamala Harris destroy Donald
Trump and the debate tonight? And everyone you know a
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lot of Trump supporters there last night. So boom groan,
what's the matter with you? I said, Hey, I'm just
reading the head tomorrow morning. I said, you got to
watch that debate and decide for yourself last night, because
the media is gonna They don't want you to watch it.
They don't want you to be engaged. They want you
to give up, because when you give up, the bad
guys win. They want to tell you exactly what happened
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last night. They want you to forget about four years
of Trump's presidency versus three and a half years of
the Biden Harris presidency. They want you to somehow think
that what happened under Trump didn't really happen under Trump.
He was just riding a wave of Obama and left
Biden and Harris a bunch of garbage and they had
to clean it up and now everything's fine. If that's
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the way you feel, you know who you're voting for
on November five. But I think a lot of people
last night three women specifically I talked to. They said, well,
I think that's it. Trump didn't do very well, and
I think a lot of women are going to end
up voting for Kamala Harris. And these are Trump supporting women.
And they all said the same variations, the same thing.
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Trump didn't do well and women are going to vote
for Kamala. And I said to each of them, are
you going to vote for Kamla?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
No, I'm still a Trump supporter, all right. So to
that mindset, who is this mythical group of fantasy women?
Trust me, I fantasize about women all the time. Did
I say that out loud? I'm just saying that I
have a pretty good imagination. I haven't been able to
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fantasize some wonder woman like land of women who are
out there like jousting and lassoing and swimming and running
and doing horseback stuff, all of this topless, and at
the same time, they still don't have any idea who
they're going to vote for on November fifth. Who are
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these undecided people out there? Just like my scenario, they
don't exist, but in my mind they don't exist. So
these people walking out of there going well, that's it.
All these undecided women are going to vote for Kamala. Now,
I don't think there are all these undecided women or
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men or whatever two spirit eighty seventh gender we're gonna
come up with today. I don't think they exist. So
the debate last night was interesting, it was entertaining. I
thought it was fun, But how did it really change
anyone's vote? The only vote that might change are the
people who watched that turned off the TV or radio
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and said, well, I don't think Trump can win, so
I'm not gonna go vote. Why bother? That's exactly what
they want you to think. Scott Voice, News Radio eleven ten,
kfab welcoming on, writer, comedian, Fox News commentator, mostly you
see here on Gutfeld on Fox weeknights at nine o'clock
(10:55):
Central Time, and the author of a brand new book
called I Used to Like You until How binary thinking
divides us. This goes into what I was talking about
at the start of the program. Everyone takes politics so personally,
we try and make enemies out of frands constantly. Kat
Temp joins us here on news radio eleven ten KFA
B Kat, good morning, good morning. Now, you and I
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are not the oldest people have ever lived. But why
do you think in our lifetime as gen xers? And
I put you on the are you gen X or
you jen y?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I'm a millennial.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I'm a millennial, all right, So I'm old. You're very
very young in hip. Sorry to call attention to that.
Why do you think in our lifetimes though, that people
take politics so personally?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
It is really sad, right, I mean, politics makes us
fight with people who we know in our real lives
on behalf of people who don't even care that we
exist or know that we exist. Many of us want
a lot of it. I think it's a misconception. We're
being conditioned into this. Many of us we really want
a lot of the same thing, but we just have
different ideas of how to get there. And if you
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want to win over or connect with someone who's different
from you, then the best way to do that is
to focus on what you have in commons. First, we've
been conditioned to believe that just because someone's in the
opposite political party, or maybe even as a different view
on one single issue, that we're just not going to
agree with them on anything. But that's not true. And
this book is basically a guide for people to connect
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because we and I think this is really important to
be Also, we do have a lot to lose here.
The conditioning of these two sides of this binary thinking.
It works great for the government and media in terms
of gaining more power and more control. They can use
division and make you think it's a great idea to
give up your own rights, for example. So if you
really want to learn how to get along with and
win people over, that's why I wrote this book. This
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book is definitely a guide for how.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
To do that. Now people say like, oh, you're just
giving up and you want to seed control of whatever
issue to the other side just to get along with them.
You're not saying, don't have a good robust conversation to
fight for you your.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Side, right, No, of course not, of course not. But
don't think that your robust disagreement on one issue means
that you and that person, that that that entire person
is back that entire person, and you will find no
agreement on anything ever, or that that entire person is
not a person at all. I mean what I do
in this book is I put a lot, I put
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a lot of my personal experiences out there in this book. Okay,
a lot of things I talk about openly that I
haven't talked about before for two reasons. Number one, it
makes the book very entertaining. There's a lot of very fun,
entertaining stories in this book. But also because I think
vulnerability is going to be a huge tool and a
huge way out of this mess. You know, I think
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that being vulnerable makes it more likely someone's going to
have compassion for you and listen to you. And if
you want to be seen as a human, you have
to be willing to show that you are a human.
And I really do think that's a huge way out
of this message. The person that you're arguing with about
a certain political view is not that view that you
disagree with. That's a whole complex person. I mean, if
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hues are often nuanced and complex, and people always are.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
So if you're trying to convince people that there's someone
who has a different political thought or identity than you
and they're not completely a bad person. You're not exactly
a Trump supporter, you're not a huge Trump detractor. You know,
you share your thoughts on whatever, But how would you
tell those who think that Trump is the second coming
of Satan himself how would you convince them that maybe
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you don't see Trump, for example, or his voters as
the worst people who've ever been you know.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
And I think that the reason I'm very lucky because
I have very close friends obviously who are huge Trump supporters,
and the things that I hear in the media about
who Trump supporters are, I know that that's simply not accurate.
It's by getting to know people, but honestly, it's by
leading with vulnerability. It's by willing to show that you
are a human. Don't then go and say, okay, well, well,
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if you're going to think I'm this, then I might
as well be it. And anybody who's a liberal is
a bad person, because that's also not the case. You
have to be willing to put yourself out there a
little bit. You have to be willing, you know, to
be wrong, and instead of being judgmental, to be kind
of curious, because you know, I've had our very interesting parties,
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because I have friends from all over the side of
the political spectrum, where of all my super left wing
friends meeting people who are on air at Fox News
right and a lot of them say, okay, this person
was actually very nice. I actually had a very nice
time with this person. That changes people's mind and perspective,
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you know, a lot more than what if you know
somebody comes in, its like, Oh, I'm not talking to
you because you're a liberal. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I absolutely do. And I love that we're having this
conversation with kat temp new book is called I Used
to Like You Until She's with us for a couple
more minutes here on eleven ten kfab I liked that
we're having this conversation on the twenty third anniversary of
the nine to eleven attacks, And if I'm not mistaken,
as we look both at the past and to the
future of what we want to leave our children, if
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I'm not mistaken, You're going to be a new mom
here pretty soon. So is part of this book and
trying to have people come together a little bit part
of that push pull of what we've seen in this country,
how we can to get together and what we hope
for the future.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Well, you know, I wrote this book before I found
out I was pregnant, and a lot of the book
I write about how terrified I am at the thought
of being pregnant, but I'm very excited to be pregnant.
I am welcoming a baby in February. But I do
get scared. I do get scared that, you know, I'm
bringing a baby into this world where it's somehow the
most horrific thing in the world to think independently. And
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this is a country that was supposed to be founded
on individual rights, and I really would like it if
we could get back to that. And I honestly know
for a fact that we'd be a better country if
everybody read this book. So I really hope there's something
anybody can gain from this book. And also you'll be
entertained while you're reading it, So I really really hope
that people will check it out, whether it's the book
or the audiobook, which I narrate myself. I put a
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lot into this book, and I really that's for a reason.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Can you give me your thirty forty five second assessment
on last night's debate please.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Well. I think that both sides, I mean, here's the thing.
I think that one side was expecting that he was
Trump was going to yell at her and just be
like screaming at her and be like horribly mean, and
the other side was kind of saying Kym wasn't being
able to form a full sentence. The bar was set
very low for both of these people. They've ended up
doing better than the very low bar that was set
for both of them.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I think we're the ones who set the bar. We've
got to get some mirrors out and this book. I
used to like you until how binary thinking devides us.
Kat Timp from Fox News, thank you so much for
the time today.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
To set up our guest in the studio. Takes a
little bit of explanation. We were talking the other day.
There was a news story I forget which of the
TV stations had it, and they talked with one of
the individuals who said, we just did this because, you know,
we thought it was kind of cute and funny. Then
all of our neighbors said we want one, and now
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we've got thousands and thousands of signs were making. It
was a white sign with a blue circle in the middle,
the blue dot representing how Nebraska's second district here in
Omaha is a blue dot against a red background in
the electoral college map, as has been the case. I mean,
this second district has voted for Trump. It's voted for Obama.
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I don't have any idea what's going to happen on
any electoral College dot anywhere in the country, throughout whatever
happens on election Day, but I know that these signs
started popping up. And the first thing I said on
the radio was, I wonder if some people think that
it indicates that there are swingers that live there. And
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we did a little bit on that, and some people
thought it was funny. So I did a Facebook post
and said, yeah, the new way to find out whether
a house welcomes swingers. The pineapples are out. It's now
a white sign with a blue dot. And I think
some people got the joke, some people didn't get the joke.
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Some people got the joke but didn't think it was
funny or that I should be allowed to exist. And
as it turns out, there's an entire Blue Dot Energy
BDE Facebook page that, for part of the evening on
Monday afternoon Monday evening was pretty much dedicated to how
bad I am. Well, we've got one of the individuals
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here from this whole BDE movement in the studio, Grant
Mooseman is here, and Grant, it's great to have you
in here.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I'm honored to be here, and I have to clarify
I am here as a private US God Bless America citizen.
I was the first person that spun up that group.
But that's a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, you don't claim to speak for everyone who has
blue or purple leanings or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Well, Red, I've been on both sides of the fence.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Okay, Well let's start there here. What what caused you
to move one way or the other? And because it
does it rhyme with Brump, Yes, I vote.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I When the day he won I registered Republican because
if you can't beat him, join him. And I did
not care for that president, or maybe it was when
he won the primary. But the answer to your question
is in Nebraska, if you want to vote in the
red primary, you have to be a red member. And
if you want to vote in the blue primary today
you can be a non partisan or a blue member. Yes,
and that has not always been true, and so Clinton Obama.
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I wanted to weigh in, Heinemann Osbourne. I wanted to
weigh in so some of the key vosis I'm as
despite starting this group and where my current opinions are,
I'm pretty darn moderate.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, Well, I think most people have certain leanings on
certain issues, but you know they might lean a little
bit this way on that one, a little that way
on that one. But it seems like, certainly in the
dawn and the era of Trump, everyone's got to take
it very, very personally, and we've got to fight with
each other all the time.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I had Cat Timf on the show an hour ago.
She's from Fox News, but she's a libertarian who has
no problem being provocative against anybody. She's really funny and
I love her comments. And her new book is all
about like trying not to make enemies out of friends.
You got to find someone of a different political persuasion
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than you and try and find common ground. Now, I
wore a blue shirt for you today, and I wore
a red shirt, and you came in here wearing a
red shirt. Now it's a Husker red shirt. Yeah yeah,
but I think everyone looks at it as a make
America Great again Husker red shirt? Right? Is that not
the intention? I'm gon try and get you kicked out
of your blue dot Energy Facebook group, but the other
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admins that could kick me out, here's here's here's The
other thing I did. I did a little social media
stalking on you. You see who we have in common as
friends on Facebook a lot of people. And I was
looking over your stuff and I don't know the context,
but a few years ago you posted back to back
pictures of Vanilla Ice and Sir Mix a Lot, and
(22:24):
it's I don't remember the content. It seems like it
was just just random pictures. I didn't know what it
had to do with here, you know, post the album
covers of the albums that meant the most of you
growing up. But I figured, if you're posting pictures of
Vanilla Ice and Sir Mix a Lot, we can be friends.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Oh did I say any words?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Or no? There were nothing. It was just here's it
was Sir Mix a Lot's Baby Got Back, and then
the Vanilla Ice album cover, from which the song Ice
Ice Baby springs forth.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I was born in nineteen eighty and those were influential songs. Genuinely,
you want to sing one, I could do the entire
Ice Ice Baby, but a bum boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
No, all right, stop collaborate and listen. Is is back
with a brand new inventtion sorright, you and I can
be friends. All right, So you watched the debate last night.
Did you have any expectations going into watching this debate,
and if so, where they met.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah. I expected uh, Donald Trump to appear senile closer
to Joe Biden because that's what a certain side was
telling me, And I expected Kamala to stumble through her
words because that's what a certain side was telling me.
And neither of those were true. My expectations were one
hundred percent met. While I have an opinion, like you
said in one of your previous segments, I want the
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president to be competent and articulate, and we've had less
than competent and articulate presidents in the past, and so yeah,
I thought my expectations were met, probably exceeded by both
both candidates.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Did you want Biden to drop out of the race
and Kamala to be anointed?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I wish it would have happened pre primary, but yes.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So when you say we've had presidents in the past
who were not competent, not articulate, what do you think
about our current president. He's not at his prime, that's it,
and he moved aside. So now we've got a new race.
We don't want to look past. We're going to look forward.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
But it was unfortunate the circumstances that that happened. But
it's also they played according to the rules of the game.
I have said, and I'm on the record that I
wish the Red side had not gone in the direction
they went, because I don't find that person a unifier,
which I think is a role of the president to
be a great communicator. And I've been offended before by words.
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The one where he made fun of the disabled person
was probably a joke, but it hurt.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, I'm not here to defend Trump or anything, but
you're talking about when he was up there, you know,
moving his arms, flailing his arms and straying I don't remember,
and all that stuff. And the person he was talking
about was has some sort of disability. Trump has done
things like that about other people who don't have cerebral
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palsy before. That's you know, people look at that and go, oh,
that's just Trump being Trump. And there are some people
who find it endearing, and some people say, is there
anything else we can do in this country? So you
representing a private citizen who happens to be attached to
this blue dote Energy Facebook group. What do you think
about Kamala Harris in terms of what her accomplishments are, Like,
(25:33):
what makes you excited to vote for her? And if
you could put this in a frame of reference without
mentioning that just because she's not Trump she's worth voting for.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, because that's not my reason. It's also not because
she's been vice president. I mean that's part of it.
But name me your favorite vice president, maybe other than LBJ,
who got some very important legislation past. So I just
think the role of vice it is a pretty quiet
one yet being one heartbeat or falling in a manhole.
(26:03):
I'll quote somebody I heard. Yeah, absolutely, I am a listener.
I move a lot, but I listen when I can.
So my reasons for supporting Kamala are very very simple,
and they are a contrast to the other alternative. I
am not a financial voter. I kind of am a
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social rights voter. And I'm scared for my gay uncles,
three of them that certain things just like Roe v.
Wade would be repealed. But my real reason is because
they have their hands on the nuclear codes and Trump
has been there and done that, and I was scared
for four years. And it's not that it's it's it's
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character and decision making. And I view this to not
be a very I think there can be false equivocation
by some, and I don't view it that way.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Trump once thumbeds knows that a Muslim majority nation by
putting a gay US ambassador as ambassador to that nation,
by by basically telling them like, look, this is not
the way that you need to treat people like this.
And meanwhile, as the other side says, we need more
and more people from these nations coming in here. But
let's ignore the Pulse nightclub shooting. You know, that kind
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of thing.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
You can't do either.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
So so when you say, like, I'm concerned about my
three gay uncles, I don't know what roe versus weight
has to do with that.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Give me I'm worried that they can't get married because
that's a federal.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So you're saying a roe vwwade like that, that's what
I mean. Yeah, not rov No, there's no, there's no.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I think just clarifying on all this stuff here. So
I don't I don't get the impression that Trump is
like ready to go in there and say all right,
no more gay marriage, and that's that's enough of that.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
No, but I think some people that are affiliated with
him are And by the way, the Roe Vwade thing
troubles many people in my community, it doesn't trouble me
as much because fundamentally it's about state rights. Now. State
rights need to conform to their own constitutions, which will
get challenged, and they need to conform with the US Constitution.
And I do think Vice President Harris made some points
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on the state level that were interesting, and I don't
think they were answered by President Trump. But that's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Talking here with Grant Mossman, private citizen, who also happens
to I'm just relating this to the citizen US citizen.
Thank you for clarifying part of the you say you
were patients zero of the blue Dot Energy Facebook page.
This goes back to the blue dot being there for Obama.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That is absolutely correct. All I did was spun up
a Facebook page and put the word energy next to it,
which I actually have to give my co founder, Ryan
was the one that brought the word energy. He was
membered seven and he's now the admin and co founder.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, and he's very funny and interesting guy. Here he's
run for some stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
He ran. He ran for regent, so I says, you
mentioned that his name is Ryan Wilkins. He ran against
hal Dab for regents, so I thought it was a
tough race. And then he asked, I think this is public.
He asked some stuff about the days that there needed
to be an appointment to the West Side school Board.
So I don't think that's conveying something I shouldn't know
a faith so Ryan Old told me.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, he was the one who I went back on
the page and was playfully sparring with some of the
people on the page. There After they got mad at
my pineapple relation of the Swinger thing.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Some of them asked for you to be banned, and
I don't believe we did that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Well, I I'm not a member of the group. It's
just it's a public forum. You don't have to be.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, no, I think that's a good clarification. Yeah you can.
Anybody can comment. If it's not in movement, it's not
if it's not aligned with the movement, if it's MAGA,
we're very open that it probably will not be allowed
to be on the page because which it's.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Certain, which is fair. But I posted on there because
there are a lot of people because I related it
to swingers and people are like, why are you conservatives
also obsessed with sex? And I said, you know, your
page is a riff on B d E right, like
big energy. And Ryan Wilkins was like, how dare you
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and did the mock like I'm offended.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
How dare you? Because he's the one that he knew
the acronym, and my former spouse had to tell me.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I thought that was really funny. He was playing.
He was fighting satire with satire on that one. I
appreciate that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Look, let me say one more thing about it. And
he's incredibly articulate. Not that we can both not that
both of us can't make comments, but when it's a
longer form comment. He's an attorney by trade, and so
he's wonderful. But I've done a lot of radio, so
I'm here with you.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
See.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I I tried four years ago to when we had
people putting up signs, you know, I support this candidate
for Congress or president or whatever, and they were right
across the street from someone else who was trying to
put up a bigger sign. Well, I support the other candidate.
And I've always kind of traded politics as like Nebraska
(30:57):
Oklahoma football or Nebraska Iowa football. You do a little
smack talk, it's playful, you don't make it hateful or personal,
and then you go drink a beer, watch the game,
and you cheer for your side.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And you have a lot of vested interest in who wins.
For a year.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Sure, oh yeah, absolutely, but it doesn't have to be
like you know, we take it personally and try and fight.
So I actually reached out to and I don't know,
she wants me to mention this in the radio, so
so in that instance, I didn't. But I actually reached
out to and got some level of potential support from
state Senator Making Hunt, And I said, I want to
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do a series of videos where you and I go
out and talk to neighbors who've got opposing signs either
right across the street or Caddy corner or you know,
next door to each other, and just talk to those
neighbors and be like, oh, yeah, you know, he's a
MAGA extremist terrorist, but you know what, you know, he
always lets me borrow his weed trimmer when mine breaks down.
(31:52):
He is a good guy, and his wife makes the
best salsa. I wanted to do stuff like that, so
I started going door to door and talking to people,
and you know what, I found out, I don't want
to talk to that guy and it I was so
dismayed by that. How do we get more people to
not start making enemies out of neighbors and family members
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and co workers? How do we do this?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
If I knew the answer, i'd be a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
But well, that's why I brought you in. But i'd
be I thought you had all the answers.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, but i'd be if I wouldn't do you justice
if I didn't give thoughts. I was advised people knew
I was coming on your show, and the only advice
I was given is to slow down your cadence because
I'm a fast talker. And I think that's a part
of it. That I was asked to move to China,
and I was quick in my response, and it was
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not satire. I mean, it was a little I said,
I'm not sure how I move eight thousand people to China,
and I'm not sure that that's good for the local economy.
And that person has yet to comment back.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
But I would have responded in Mandarin Chinese.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Please do I don't even know to do that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I know a lot of Google translators, but have them
look it up.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah. No, but that's the first thing. The second thing
is continue to make friends across the aisle. Maybe not
all the way across the aisle. Maybe not. You know,
I didn't realize you actually sat at least on the
state of the Union left and right? Do they do that?
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Like?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Is that how they assemble on every day? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I I think so.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah. I've been there for a session of Congress and
I saw Tom Osbourne looking very very bored.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I saw Tom Osborne looking very tired. I got the
first time I ever got upgraded because I used to
fly a lot when I was working for a consulting company.
I got the opportunity to get upgraded and sat next
to Tom. And that's this whole segment by itself.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Oh he's the best, He's absolutely the best.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
He's the goat.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
He was so bored in Congress.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Saban might be the goat, but he was he was bored.
And when I saw him, he was tired.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Because we see, now we have a problem. You put
Saban over Osborn.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
No, I wouldn't because I'm a Husker fan. But Saban's
in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
He's on Mount Rishman.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
All right, Okay, you know he's kind of a conservative.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
No, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, so was Osburn.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I did do that. Okay, then you're since you went there,
I have to go quick. I said, the only the
only president that's balanced the budget since nineteen eighty in
my lifetime is Bill Clinton. And he said he couldn't
have done it. In fact, I don't give it in
as much credit as I give Newton. And I said, fair.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Have you seen the or would you see the Reagan movie?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, there's he meets Tip O'Neil and they have a
little polite sparring session and uh, he says, well, I
hope you're ready for a fight. And Reagan said, yeah,
until six o'clock every day. And why what happens at six? Well,
six o'clock, we clock out, we go get a beer,
and we're just a couple of Irish guys.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Reagan didn't say that. I don't believe, because I don't
believe he was a drinker. I think he would say
I don't. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he'd say,
let's get together over Eminem's yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Well, uh yeah, no jelly beans Okay, yeah, jelly beans
is Reagan's thing. But I think the tone was there,
and that's what I got from watching the movie and
also reading Speaker Tip O'Neil's book Man of the House,
is they battled all day, but at some point you
have to realize, like I'm going to win some, you're
going to win some. We can't get what we want.
(35:10):
How boring would that be. Let's have a good have
a good battle here, and then let's go get a drink.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Or something has happened to break that down, all.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Right, I owe you a drink for coming in and
chatting with me to.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, no, what you owe me is I would go.
I would go interview people with you, and we should
do that on something live, YouTube live, I would. And
the other one is if you need me, call me
and I'll come back.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
All right, Grant, I really enjoy talking to you. We'll
do this again absolutely.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
The day that I would like to do it, if
we don't do it before, which I don't think we will,
would be the day after the election.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Let's see, you're a busy.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
The man you're a busy man. Will we can go
a week after the election.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
We'll see all right, stand by, all right, that's Grant Mossman,
Blue Dot Energy, but US citizen here on news radio
eleven ten KFA B Scott News Radio eleven tien kfab
lucy in five seconds or last, give me all your
thoughts on the debate.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Go, I was sleeping.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
While you were sleeping. The former president and the current
vice president had a chat.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I heard about that. I saw a very very different
person there, like completely different.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Which who with the vice president? Not the same person
we've seen over the last few years.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
No, but I think it explains her absence. There's been
an absent quite a bit the last several weeks. Get
this stuff down practice.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well, if you're gonna, I mean, I would if you're
going to come out as a brand new person who
doesn't have any of the same opinions you used to have,
and you don't.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You've changed every opinion she's ever had.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
And you you don't want to be tied to the
person who you've been toting. As we look at all
the great economy we have and the great jobs and everything,
and how we're respected the world over but at the
same time, I don't want you to remember me as
the person who stood alongside the current president saying he's
great and he's going to be another four years as
(37:16):
the greatest president ever. We need to have you see
me as part of all the good, but not part
of some of the questions related to this or the
number of people come in through our border, something that
I was tasked with overseeing and during that time, we
had record numbers of people coming across our border. But
(37:37):
also realize, I'm a person who's gonna do something about
all those things that didn't get done the way you like.
Don't worry, I'm gonna do him. I'm not going to
tell you how. But let's also remember I'm not Trump,
so that if you're going to come out forged as
a new individual, it does take some time. This is
not an overnight process.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
But a lot of the stuff that she's talking about,
she could be at least getting the ball rolling now,
and it doesn't appear that that is the case. And
I did wake up and see just a small clip
of it where they were talking about abortion and IVF
and I just I was I'm stunned because she just
continues to tout the lie that he is going to
(38:20):
get rid of IVF. That's exactly the opposite of what
he has said. Yes, and as far as the abortion laws,
she would not answer the question when he asked her,
what is seven months, eight months, nine months? So that's
what I find. Finally, that's the little bit that I saw.
I said, Dan interested.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Her supporters don't want her to put a fine point
on that. And it's not because I don't believe that
there are a bunch of people out there who are,
you know, willing baby killers. You know, I don't believe that. Yeah,
you can look on both sides and find some pretty
interesting thoughts and views on both sides. But what I think,
(39:00):
and this is me giving a tremendous amount of benefit
of the doubt to those who say, well, we need
to have certain protections available up to the ninth month.
It's because they've been conditioned, or they can imagine a
scenario where a woman's life is in danger, or she
just found out she was pregnant after thirty nine weeks
(39:22):
with her brother's baby aunt, or just they'll come up
with some scenario that doesn't exist, and they'll they'll then
they'll be told some evil old white guy is going
to deny her that right, and so if that condition exists,
therefore then we can never put any restrictions on this ever,
(39:45):
because it might be that someone never mind the fact
that this is not why this process happens. This is
not not for these reasons or anything like that. So
as long as they can convince them, well, I'm doing
the right thing for this person that doesn't exist, then
they can stand by. And they don't want Kamala Harris
(40:07):
to put a restriction on it, because then suddenly if well,
I think seven months is too late, oh well, at
five months their's and then you can look at what's
happening here with the fetus, with the baby in the womb,
fingers and toes, heart beat, all this stuff. Why is that? Okay,
now we start moving. That's why when they press these
(40:27):
guys on would you do this at what point all this,
they don't want to answer that question.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Well, if you go by just the lay of the law,
the way that the Supreme Court knocked down Roby White,
all they did was give it back to the States.
And I know that you know that, and I know
that that has been said. I was in an fifty times.
That's the only thing that has changed. So then the candidates,
these two Trump and Harris, they don't really need to
(40:57):
put an end date on when they think that that
restrict should be because it doesn't sit in the federal
government anymore. That's the only thing Roe v. Way did, Right.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
That's why I just.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Gave it back to the states. Go talk to all
of your states.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
That's why Kamala was pressing Trump on would you sign
and the moderators too, would you sign a national abortion band?
And Trump was accurate in saying it'll never happen. With
the way that Congress works and how all of this
would need to happen, that will never happen. It's like, hey,
would you ride a unicorn? There isn't one. I want
(41:35):
you to answer the question, you know, it's would.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
That's not a good analogy because if he said yes,
I would ride a unicorn, knowing that there never would be,
it wouldn't matter because the people who supported unicorns would say, oh,
there you go.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
I know.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Let's talk about how the debate started and what happened
immediately afterwards.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
I'm talking about at the party.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
No, no, not at Ref's last night and thanks again
to all those Oh and that reminds me I'm supposed
to give a shout out to a couple of dudes.
Thanks to everyone who came out to Refs Sports Bar
and Grill last night, and thanks again to Rory and
his staff are working so hard to accommodate a place
that was standing room only an hour and a half
before the debate started, and taking care of everyone all night.
(42:25):
It was a lot of fun. We watched a really
good debate and we watched an even better volleyball game,
so it was super fun last night. And I met
William and Max, a couple of young guys that listened
to KFAB any chance they get, And I said really
and they said absolutely. I'm like, you look like decent
(42:45):
people to me. But thanks a lot for listening. So
thank you to William and Max for listening to news
Radio eleven ten KFAB. Now I learned on the Emery
Songer Show yesterday there was a Vegas line as to
whether or not these candidates would shake hands before the
debate started. There's a line for it. You can bet
(43:06):
on anything. Now. When Trump and Biden started their debate,
you know they bring him out from both sides. There's
not really a chance for them to meet in the
middle because of how they come out. But I said,
because I was on the radio with Emery a little
bit yesterday and he says, do you think they'll shake hands?
And said, I hope they do. I would, well, it
(43:28):
was and I didn't if if you'd ask me who
would initiate it, I would have thought Trump would probably
initiate it, because I didn't feel like and if Trump
initiated it, Kamala's supporters would not support her shaking his
hand that somehow legitimizes him. But I think that they
really loved what she did. She's the one who crossed
(43:49):
the stage, went over to her and said, hi, Kamala
Harris because they've never met, and I thought that was
a really interesting way to start. And some people are like, ah,
she immediately threw him off his game. And that's funny
because the same people who think that Trump was off
his game last night are the same ones who for
(44:11):
nine years have said this guy is a rambling, unfocused mess,
that's his game, and then last night they say, well,
he was a rambling, focused mess. He was off his game.
Like you can't have it both ways, this is what
this is one of your concerns about him. I saw
the same guy I've seen for almost a decade, but
(44:31):
I think that he was probably surprised she came over
and said, Hi, Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
I doubt it. This is the art of the deal guy.
This is the guy who has been dealing with business
leaders and world leaders for years. He knows exactly what
she did. She was disarming her opponent.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
That could be good, but I thought, I think that's
great that she did though. I thought it was great. Yeah, fine,
you know, and then here's how it ended. We finally
got that endorsement that everyone was waiting on. And I
don't know that it really affects how anyone's going to vote, but.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Well, the sixteen and unders a childless.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Cat lady, right, there's a lot of fourteen year old
girls very anxious to vote in this election because a
childless cat lady supports the Harris Walls ticket. And that
would be Taylor Swift, who signed her endorsement on social
media with love and hope. Taylor Swift childless cat lady.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Well, good for her, that's excellent.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
She says that she became a Kamala Harris supporter after
the debate tonight, which is bull but she says, also,
I was made aware that there was an AI of me,
supposedly me endorsing Trump. No one believes that, but she
felt like I need to set the record straight. No
you don't, But she says, I will be casting my
(45:53):
vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walls in the twenty
twenty four presidential election because she fights for the and causes.
I believe we need a warrior to champion them. What
because she fights for the rights and causes I believe, Oh,
I believe need a warrior to champion them. I'm sure
this was proofred before she posted it. I'm sorry I
(46:16):
screwed it up, says. I think she's a steady handed,
gifted leader, and I believe we can accomplish so much
more in this country if we're led by a calm,
led by calm and not chaos. She says. Also, they're
standing up for lgbt Q plus rights IVF and a
woman's right to her own body.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
So right, so the whole make the choices of for
your body on your own. The government can tell you
how to what to do to your body.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I know it's always an inconvenient thing, like my body,
my choice. I don't I don't want a vaccine. No, no, no,
you don't get to make me a choice. Yeah, I'm
just clarifying, absolutely right, that's the assessment of Taylor Swift.
I don't know that there's anyone going well. I was
going to vote for Trump, but now the Taylor Swift
thinks him. Scott Voye
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