11-17-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie breaks down the weekend's disaster in Pittsburgh with Mo Egger and Jason Williams. Also how Charlie Kirk affected politics before and after his death with Joshua Phillips.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
My Billy cunning in the Great America. Welcome Monday after Union.
The tri State weather's coming in tonight and tomorrow. We'll
see what happens. But at least we have the Bengals
performing at high levels no one ever thought possible. There
are seventeen chapters of the book of the twenty twenty
five football season, and every game is a new chapter,
with its own issues, its own characters, its own plot lines.
And right now the Bengalleys are three and seven, should

(00:29):
be seven and three to three and seven, and they're
setting records here before unknown. According to Moegar, no team
in the history of the National Football League has given
up at least twenty seven points in nine consecutive games.
Thee ods that getting to ten are quite good. Moeger,
Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. First of all,
give me the headline of this chapter of the twenty
twenty five book. But you thought nothing more than usual

(00:52):
could transpart. Now we've got Spitgate. I'm watching the morning
shows today. It's all about Spitgate, Jamarshall. It's also about
Jama's dowit a little bit. But Jamarch as far as
Jamar Chase, what happened with spitgate. I watched in real time.
It didn't we couldn't see the spit and then you
tweeted or shall say extra about it, saying, well, how
come Ramsey's so angry about this thing? And then all

(01:14):
of a sudden it came out. MO, where are you now?
If anywhere? When it comes to spitgate, Willie be held accountable?
Didn't commit perjury by lying to the media.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Where are we? So there's a lot there. Number One,
you sort of misrepresented my tweet, which is I have
it right here if you want to say I called
him a dope, because I think, regardless of how you've
been provoked, if you punch somebody in the face who's
wearing a football helmet, you're a moron because you're going.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
To get the worst of it.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I don't care if Jalen Ramsey had every reason to
be mad at Jamar Chase. I do not understand. You
see this happen on the football field all the time.
Two guys get into it. One guy throws a punch
at a face mask, which is literally designed to protect
the person's face, which means you're going to get the
worst of it. So that's where my tweet came from.
This was before we saw the video that I think

(02:04):
pretty clearly shows Jamar Chase spinning on Jalen Ramsey. So
there's a couple of questions here. Number one, what is
the NFL gonna do with Jalen Ramsey? Number two or
with Jamar Chase? Number two? Is the punishment going to
be worse because Jamar didn't own up to spitting on Jail?
I mean, I love Jamar Chase's a wonderful football player.

(02:28):
But the video I think speaks for itself. What was
going on between those two that made Jamar Chase, typically
a pretty mild mannered guy, decide to do something that
I think a lot of us would say is completely
out of character. I'm kind of interested in that at
the end of the day, though, that's a side show

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compared to the main issue, which was the Bengals pulled
within eight points yesterday despite the fact that Joe Flacco
I think was pretty clearly compromised, and yet again with
the season in the game hanging in the balance, al
Golan's defense. It's Al Goland, not Al Golden. There's no
d al Golan's defense could not get a stop that

(03:10):
has been a recurring theme time and again. Zach Taylor
said two weeks ago going into the buy that he
believes in al Golan, thinks they have a championship level defense. Yep,
there was another instance where on a day in which
it's not exactly like Aaron Rodgers and Mason Rudolph had
shredded the Bengals defense.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
You're down by eight points, You've got a shot.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Your defense has to give you the ball back, and
al Golan's defense again could not. That has been a
recurring theme. So the Jamar Chase thing is an interesting
side show. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
Jamar Chase is not a Bengals problem. Al Goland's defense
and Duke Tobin building al Gole in that defense, those
are bigger picture issues that matter a lot more.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
When will the suspension involving maybe two to three million
dollars of fines come down? Because if he makes them,
this is a paycheck. It's a big deal. I think
about two or three million happens. Does that happened today, tomorrow, Wednesday?
When does that occur? Is there an appeal? Do you
want to appeal?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
MO?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Get the lawyers involved.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I'm I'm going to guess that the punishment is handed
down pretty quickly here. We obviously have precedent with what
happened in the first game of the season, where there
was a spitting incident involving the player before the first
play from scrimmage, there was an ejection.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
They ruled that the game that he missed.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
We'll see if that happens with Jamar Chase, and I
do wonder if him not owning up to it despite
I think is pretty pretty graphic visual evidence that he
did spit on jumping. I wonder if that's go spit,
if that's going to play a role here. But but again,
at the end of the day, it's an interesting story.
But that sort of distractions from another poorly coach game

(04:52):
by Zach Taylor, terrible, where he did some game management
things that I do not understand, you.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Know, fourth and one and try to trick him and
wasting a time out time.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I mean in the entire time early in the fourth quarter,
when they're down by multiple scores, they're going about their
business like they're winning by eleven points.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
It made no sense.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Another poor effort by the defense, and we have seven
more games of this. This has been one of the
longest seasons that I can win. We have seven more
games of this season.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
On the brink.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
You get to see here for three hours, and you
get to talk about you get to talk about politics
and Trump and Stanstein. Well, you're probably not really gonna
want to talk about that, but.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I you now. Trump said it's okay. Now, Trump said
it's okay. Yeah, you get to talk about all that stuff.
I'm stuck in the world where for three hours every
day down the hall, I have to I can't leave
the Bengals. I have seven, seven more games. Tony Pike
took me off to the side a few minutes. You
remember Tony Pike, is he's still here today?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
He is?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yes, today's here. He said, who has more tackles this season?
Is it Shamar Stewart or Jamar Chase? And I would
have to assume and Stewart as the defensive end, would
have more tackles, Yeah, than the great Number one, would
you agree? I mean, if somebody asked you in game ten,
who's got more tackles a defensive end or a wide receiver,
you might say I'm going with the defensive end. Yes. However,

(06:12):
statistically we have Chase has more tackles than Stewart. Can
you explain that to Tony Bender?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Shamar Stewart has been ineffective and he has been hurt,
and the rookie season is a wash.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I think it's way too early to call him a bust.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
But the Bengals I made it known going into the
draft that remember, last year's defense stunk, right, okay.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
So bad they fired the DC out it.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Last year's defense stunk. Did they do that much in
free agency?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
No? No, no.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
They signed Orrin Burks, who doesn't make any impact at all,
and they brought in TJ. Slayton from the Packers, who
I think has many stops against the.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Run as you do. This year. He's on a milk card.
But the message was we're not going to be that
active in free agency. Number one, We're sticking with this team.
Number one. We think al Golan can fix it. Is
there's no d in it. That's not what Rocky Boyman says.
He said he came from the Golden Dome Goland to
the Golden Yea.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well, I wish you would go back. Al Goland is
going to fix it, and in the draft we're gonna
get players who can make an immediate impact on defense
right now, And I thought, Okay, well, let's see what
they did well. Has Shamar Stewart made an impact on defense?
Who has Demetrius Knight, who they drafted as a linebacker,
who's like forty five years old? Has he made any
impact on defense? Barrett Carter? Barrett Carter may turn out

(07:34):
to be an excellent player. I think he is going
to be solely remembered for getting just trucked yesterday.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Who is that guy, that wrecking ball, the incredible hulk
who came through the Pittsburgh line of Washington. I'd give
that guy.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
He looks like he looks like a tackle. Doesn't he
a tight end? Yeah? And so this year's draft class
of defensive players has given them nothing. They looked at
last year safety group and they didn't add to it.
Did you watch Geno Stone quote try to tackle yesterday?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Did you watch the Bengals corners again struggle as I
have all season long?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
They did nothing to that group.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
And so this season has been a nightmare from a
number of different perspectives. At the top of the list
for me has been how their strategy with the defense
has failed and what they tried to accomplish with regards
to the draft. On defense, this year has yielded nothing
that makes you feel like those players are worth moving

(08:34):
forward with.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, Zach Taylor says, also known as Zach Shul, we
simply have to get better. Would you agree? And he
also said he's not wrong. We've got to score more points.
He's not wrong about that either. Well, he can identify
the problem. Yes, Now, Canny come up with a solution
that makes any sense. I think that what is the solution?
I need the solution. They don't have talk. Let's do something.

(08:56):
They don't have enough good players.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I mean they don't have enough good players. That was
the case last year. Joe Burrow had the greatest single
season of any Bengals quarterback in the history of the franchise.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Think about that.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Because they've had MVP winning seasons by quarterbacks and they
went nine to eight and didn't make the postseason.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
That should have told you their players aren't good enough.
By the way.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
On offense, you know, Joe Flacco turned into a pumpkin.
I think he was physically compromised yesterday. But I think
if you look at him on offense, pretty happy with
the pieces they have. I even think the offensive line
is playing okay. Chase Brown is a legitimate dude, Chase Higgins, Burrow,
they've got guys when they're spitting on players. But they
did last year as well. Offensively, they were awesome last season.

(09:48):
Joe Burrow was awesome last year. Jamar Chase won the
Triple Crown. They didn't make the postseason because of a
defense that they barely.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Addressed, also known as the Mattadors.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
If Duke Tobin worked for you and he's sitting across
the table from you and he was in charge of
the defense, aren't you asking him?

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Why can't you fix this? Why? Why did you look
at last.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Year's defense and go, you know what, we're going to
bring back most of these guys. How could you look
at the safety position and go, you know what, let's
leave well enough alone.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Who's making these Is it Duke Tobin? Is it? And
is it Elizabeth? Is it? Katie?

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Mike?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
And by the way, over the last six weeks, Nick
Krawl has spoken publicly more than Duke Tobin has, and
Nick Krawl's team hasn't played. I think that's the frustrating
thing for me. Duke Tobin's radio silence, I think is
weak as hell.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Doesn't it make sense though? Does it make sense? Yeah,
you don't want to talk? Well, if I.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Was Duke Tobin as a human being, I would go,
you know what, I built that roster and offensive players
are having to answer questions about a defense that I built,
and the head coach of the team has to answer
questions three times a week about a team that I
built for him. You know what, maybe during the bye week,
I'll come downstairs and you could ask me, and I'll

(11:06):
take that.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
He's not going to do that. Of course he's not
going to do that. It's weak. It's weak that he's
doesn't And so I.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Maybe it wouldn't matter, Maybe it wouldn't make anybody feel
any better. But I just think, as a human being,
if I was Duke Tobin'd go, Okay, I created this mess.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'm not going to make other people answer for it. No,
not the and another situation, and so Mason Rudolph came
in and did pretty well. Aaron Rodgers doesn't look right
and his Steelers helmet, he doesn't look right. He's done
dun and done right. He's broken hand left handy right
and so Mason Rudolph, has been the forever backup for
the last six or seven years, did pretty well. He
did anybody who do well against the Bengal defense.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I mean, let's be honest, what they have over the
next couple of weeks is Drake May who might beat
the MVP this season, and then Lauren Jackson, who's been
the MVP twice.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I mean, it doesn't get any better.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I thought Aaron Rodgers played poorly yesterday, and you get
the typical bag with Aaron Rodgers where every time he
throws it in the complete pass, he throws him in
the temper tantrum. And I was wondering what the injury
was to see if he actually would take an injection
for that, but I guess it's a broken wrist, and so.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
That wasn't gonna help.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I don't think the Steelers are very good, and I
think that's what makes yesterday so frustrating. Right, Baltimore is
the odds on favorite to win this division. I think
Baltimore will win this division. It's a Steelers team that
the Bengals beat once. By the way, credit Pittsburgh for
adjusting their defensive game plan, which was in the first
game they played man defense, Jamar Chase and T Higgins

(12:33):
shredded it, and then the Steelers adjusted and played zone
defense yesterday, and it's like the Bengals had no clue
that you could actually do that. I don't think this
Steelers team is very good. Aaron Rodgers looks old. I
think they're limited offensively. Their secondary this year has been terrible.
They came into yesterday thirty second in a thirty two
team league in pass defense and the Bengals lose to
him by twenty two points. This division is shaky this year.

(12:56):
A couple of years ago it was the best in football.
Now it's the Bengals can't be competitive in it. And
you might go, well, yeah, but they don't have Joe Burrow.
The offense up until yesterday has been fine. This defense
is historically bad. And the frustrating thing for me is
back during the summer, you could see it coming. I
cannot tell you how many times I would hear someone say, look,

(13:17):
they've just got to be league average. And my response
to that was in the fourth quarter, when you're down
by a touchdown and you've got to get.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
The ball back to your offense, or in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
When you're up by a score and you're trying to
close out the game, will you be able to And
on multiple occasions this year, this defense hasn't been able
to do that, including yesterday.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
All right, Mo.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Lastly, we have the situation I watched the game with
Wake Forest. You're wearing UNC colors in which guy's name
is Jake Dickert, who's the head coach of wake Forest
beat the legendary Bill Belichick. Handley am I to add
walks across the field and Bill Belichick blows off the
head football coach he had his hat off. Is Bill
Belichick the next coach of the Bengals? No, John Gooden,

(14:01):
John Gruden? I don't think so. I don't think so.
I don't think so. Who is Brian Kelly? You just
want to keep going down the road. He's available. He
is most definitely available. I lost some money.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I think would be a lot of fun. You know
who I think would be interesting just from a human perspective.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Lou Anarumo. They just fired him, ran him back all
but everybody where do we go, they're giving up. They're
setting records, twenty seven points in a row. Nine. I
think it's going to be eleven or twelve games, they're
going to give up.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Keep.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You and I talked the morning after the Super Bowl
when the Bengals lost to the Rams. So that's February
twenty twenty in LA. At that point, no, I was.
I had just flown back from all night for my
week next to the ice machine, and we had a
conversation and it was about the Super Bowl game itself

(14:52):
and what what's next for the Bengals. If I would
have told you that we would be talking. Let's see,
that's three and a half years later. The Bengals will
have been back to the postseason once, and to their credit,
made the AFC Championship Game the following year.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
And lost the course.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
But we would be sitting here without the Bengals having
advanced to the Super Bowl again and having spent the
most recent three years not even making the postseason.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
You would have said, there's no way. You snickerd at
me when I said it, felt Janny Anderson. After losing
the Super Bowl in Detroit, everyone said they're going back.
Never went back, Boomers, I And after losing to Miami
forty Knights, they're going to go back, I said, the
nart coming class and I said at that point, yes,
they're never going back, because I walked out of it.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I walked out of the stadium, Snigger went back to
my ice chest Sofi Stadium, and the people that I
was with were like, you know what, that was just awesome.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
And I said, you know, like, you don't know that, man, like.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
You don't know, you don't know when you're going to
be back in this position.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Never.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
But if I would have said that night, that Snicker
that the next four years would have unfolded the way
they have, you would have said, there's three consecutive years
during what's supposed to be Burrow's prime not making the
postseason worst offense in fifty years in the NFL. It
is very fair to wonder. It is very fair to wonder,
for the duration of the decade which Joe Burrow is

(16:16):
under contract for, are they going to fix this not
to be relevant or make the seventh seed in the
AFC to win a championship. The idea is to win
a championship. They feel so frickin far away from winning
a championship. It's absurd and it's not supposed to be
this way. Oh not while you have a legitimate dude
at QB.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Jamar Stewart holds out to get more money. Change the language,
twist and ankle twist a gonad. He's done. He's done
for the year. Lsu. You have as many sacks this
year as he does. And he's taking the place at
Trey Henderson, who didn't fly to Pittsburgh. I'm told he did.
Not your comments. Trey Hendrickson wanted to be a team captain.
Cashed out. He wanted to be a team captain, Jamarrow,
how about Chase spitting on people? Not good? But Hendrickson

(17:00):
wanted to be a team captain. Team captains with his team,
he's checked out, lost the locker room. Zach Shula is done, Moe,
thank you very much? Anything else? Yes, do you have
any faith? Do you have any in the bear Cats? Bengals?
Bettercats football?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Best? Struggling basketball is going to be interesting, Frida interesting, Yeah,
Wolfe's really good. They're going to get drilled on news
radio seven hundred. Hi, Billy Cunning in the Great America,
and welcome again this Monday afternoon. Good to hear from Oeger,
who is a little bit of hope, very little faith.
I have neither. So we'll see what happens down the

(17:40):
road with our beloved Bengals. It's a mom and pop
operation that's made the family billions and billions and billions
of dollars, and they operate on a shoe string without
a general manager and without little scouting going on. And
as long as you can pick Joe Burrow and Jamar
Chase before he started spitting, it was a pretty good draft.
And now you're left with the defense, which is the

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worst maybe in the history of the NFL. Ever about
nine consecutive games giving up twenty seven or more points,
and nothing's going to change the next few games. So
we'll see what happens. And nonetheless, I'd rather have the
Bengals here the no NFL team. If the choice is
allows the Bengals team or no NFL team, I'll take
the Bengals every day of the week. It's a mom

(18:23):
and pop operation. I like to be at some meeting
when the family gets together, when the syndicate gets together
and talk about what's going on with Mike Brown and
Katie and Troy and Elizabeth and the family. Paul H. Brown,
get them all together. I wonder this afternoon what they're thinking.
Are they thinking that. How in the world does Duke
Tobin keep his job. He's been there for twenty five

(18:44):
years because he's a good friend of Mike Brown. Mike
Brown is now ninety years old. Is it time to
pass on to Baton? Yes? But passing on to who?
Elizabeth Katie, Troy, Paul H. Brown. I don't know. It's
not a professionally run organization except when it comes to
making money and winning lawsuits, and they're damn good at that.
On the other hand, Pittsburgh Steelers are no better shape

(19:07):
than the Bengals in a sense. They just beat him,
of course by twenty two points, but nonetheless, Aaron Rodgers
doesn't look right in that Pittsburgh helmet didn't look right.
He's probably done. And the Dallas Cowboys to try like
crazy to win, win win. After the first several years,
winning three of those three Super Bowls with Troy Aikman,
they've done nothing for the past thirty some years except

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lose playoff games, which is what the Bengals do. After
Marvin Lewis's run here, he won about half his games.
He was zero and seven in the playoffs, zero and seven.
At least Zach Schull broke down a little bit in
this second year here with Joe Burrow. Guess what they
went to the Super Bowl, should have won, won a
couple of playoff games next year back to the NFC

(19:50):
Championship game. That's been three years and that's not on
the horizon anytime soon. So we'll see what happened. I'd
rather have a bad Bengals team and a bad Bengals
organization here that have no team at all every now
and then I think about that.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Secondly, after one o'clock today, we have Joshua Phillips is
going to be here. He did an extensive documentary on
Charlie Kirk coming out on Wednesday of this week, and
we're going to talk to him about the memories, the
life and times of Charlie Kirk Turning Point USA. Colorado
professors are calling Turning Point USA a Nazi organization. They're

(20:28):
the brown Shirts, they're socialists, their Nazis, they're racist to
all this smearing that is a complete lie about Charlie Kirk,
but it's out there. So he did a documentary which
is available starting on Wednesday, about the real life and
times at Charlie Kirk. So we'll see what happens with that.
And thirdly, last night, I'm with You on the air.
I'm on ten pm to one am every Sunday night

(20:50):
for the past sixteen years, have about five hundred and
fifty stations. In mid show last night, the President put
out a missive on and his truth Social saying that
the Republicans should release the Epstein files a complete one eighty. Hell,
it might be a three sixty. I don't know what
it is. It might be a five p forty. But

(21:12):
the President, who was resisting it for reasons unclear to me,
is now saying release everything. We just had a newsperson say, well,
we can release them without the legislation. Yes, of course.
The same thing is true about the last four years
where you had Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and had the
Attorney General Mary Garland and James Comy in possession of

(21:34):
the Epstein files for four years. They sat there with
the Epstein files more or less on their desk, available
to the Department of Justice. And what did the Biden,
Kamala Harris, James Comy, Merrick Garland do with that? Christopher Ray,
the director FBI, they did nothing, didn't release it at all.

(21:55):
During the heart and soul of the campaign. When the
election was in the larch, Kamala was up in several polls.
In fact, she was up until the last three or
four weeks. And when she did that stupid interview on
the View in which she said, I can't think of
anything I do different the past four years that Joe
Biden already did. When she did, she was sunk. So

(22:17):
they had the availability within their grasp the Democratic Party
the trash to fame and possibly ruin the electability of
Donald Trump in twenty twenty six, sorry, twenty twenty four
last year. And guess what they didn't release it. Why? Well,
little secret is there's nothing in there particularly negative about

(22:42):
Donald Trump. Otherwise it would have been released last night
when the story broke. I took a screenshot of NBC
News you might recall earlier in the evening yesterday Sunday
on Channel five. I'm watching the NBC Nightly News, and
the anchor had on five or six women who were

(23:05):
sexually abused and trafficked by Epstein, and they did interviews
with him and on and on, and I kept waiting
for the anchor to ask the question, who abused You
give me the name of these powerful men to whom
you were trafficked, and no question like that was asked.

(23:26):
In fact, I've not seen that question being asked by
any of the numerous interviews the women have done. The
women are now in their late thirties, forties, and fifties. Allegedly,
they started in nineteen ninety six with a woman named Farmer.
When Jeffrey Epstein in nineteen ninety six, what about thirty
years ago, twenty nine years ago, said she was raped

(23:50):
by a guy named Jeffrey Epstein in New York City.
The NYPD did an extensive report on it and said
they're not going to file criminal charges, don't know. And
it continued for year after year, decade after decade. Allegedly
it continued all the way through like twenty eighteen and
twenty nineteen before he was arrested and then eventually killed himself.

(24:13):
But he was convicted in twenty eight having a two
year investigation by the US Attorney's office in Florida and
also the local prosecutor's office. He got a sweetheart deal
that was unbelievable, and that this woman her name's Farmer.
She gave her name et cetera, and the women that
tomorrow they're going to be on the steps of the Capitol.

(24:33):
They're going to show up with photos of themselves and
they were fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old. Of course,
the most noted one is Virginia's Jeuffrey, who killed herself
in Australia about six months ago. So lineup on one side.
I want to share with you the comment of NBC
News last night. He put it on their website and

(24:53):
verbally expressed it. Quote. The President's name appears frequently in
the email, but Epstein did not in these files accuse
Trump of any wrongdoing or illegal activity. Let me repeat that,
because the truth will set you free. The twenty thousand

(25:14):
emails which came out of the House Oversight Committee, along
with the emails from the estate, we're talking maybe as
many as one hundred thousand emails involving allegedly a thousand women. Quote.
Donald Trump's name appears frequently in the emails, but Epstein
did not in these files accuse him of any wrongdoing

(25:36):
or illegal activities. So Carolyn Levitt on Friday said the following.
These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that
President Trump did nothing wrong. And my resolution for that
issue is NBC News and Roe Conna, the congressman from California,
has said interesting things that he said on Sunday, the

(25:58):
Epstein files release could be a win for Trump if
you gave me a choice that I already have the president
reverse course, which he did last night. I'd rather release
all the files. Someone was saying that his number would
give it up. I don't care if he went was
politically or not. And so on one side, the majority of
the American people, because of the media coverage, believe Trump

(26:22):
is something to hide. The great majority of Democrats believe
that Trump is a pedophile. That he was. He was
part of the trafficking ring to teenage girls to rich
and powerful men all over New York, Lolita Island, Florida,
et cetera. In reality, the victims of these crimes have

(26:43):
uniformly said that Donald Trump did not abuse them, and
they know no circumstance under which Donald Trump abused any
teenage girls. Does that matter, Well, of course it matters,
except the media wants to do the drive by defamation
without digging in the facts on the side of the
fence that says Donald Trump did not do this or

(27:07):
all the victims, so far, not one has said she
was forced coerced her willingly or unwillingly, on drugs or drunk,
whatever it might be, to have sex with Donald Trump.
One percent of the victims said no. Do you believe
the victims? Generally? I do not all the time. Generally

(27:27):
I do trust, but verify. So if all the victims
say Trump didn't do it, If Virginia Giuffrey, the main
victim here, said that Trump didn't do it, in fact,
she said he was a complete gentleman every time he
was around me. If Gallaine Maxwell, he's doing twenty years
in a federal women's prison, said that Trump did not

(27:51):
participate in those activities with Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein himself
has said repeatedly, despite being a well known financier of
democratic causes, Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself, thank God, said
Trump didn't do it. You have all the lawyers and
all the law firms who have filed all the lawsuits

(28:12):
against him, all the class action lawsuits, of which there's
been dozens, hundreds of lawyers, hundreds of paralegals, hundreds of
administrative assistants, not one has come forward to say that
Donald Trump sexually had sex with any teenage girls. None,
So if all those individuals say it didn't happen, and
also add on top of that the idea, and on

(28:35):
top of that this idea that the Democrats, wanting to
win the twenty twenty four election badly, would you agree,
very badly, had all the Epstein files in their possession
and did not release any of them because what because
it wasn't in culplatory to Donald Trump, it was exculplatory,

(28:55):
which means he didn't do it. You'd rather deal, I think,
with the drive by media defamation than with the reality
that if you believe the victims, Trump didn't do it.
If you believe Virginia Giuffrey Trump didn't do it, if
you believe Julane Maxwell, Trump didn't do it, if you

(29:15):
believe Jeffrey Epstein, Trump didn't do it. If you believe
all the lawyers and all the law firms who fought
all the class action lawsuits, all of them have said
nothing about Donald Trump's involvement. That the Democratic Party leadership
for four years, having possession of these files, did not
release them for obvious reasons. And on top of that,

(29:38):
all the other witnesses the limousine drivers, those who catered
the parties. No one's come forward to say Donald Trump
illicitly had sex with teenage girls on Lolita Island or elsewhere.
And NBC News says again, Trump's name appears frequently in emails,

(29:59):
but Epstein did not in these files accuse him Trump
of any wrongdoing or legal activity. So I can't answer
this question. Why is Trump resistant releasing the files when
the Democrats had possession of them for the last four
years and didn't release them. Well, last night he said, okay,
I'm letting them go. When they all come out, guess what.

(30:22):
It won't be accepted by the media or by the
Democratic Party. They'll come up with something else. You have
the grand jury testimony, which the federal judges said we're
not releasing that. You have the Epstein estate emails and
texts and travel records. Those have all been released. Now
if the DOJ files are also released, what's left a

(30:43):
smear and not the truth. If as a woman, you
believe the victims of Jeffrey Epstein, the victims say Trump's
involvement is nonexistent, do you believe the victims? I generally
do do. Sometimes victims lie absolutely. But these victims are

(31:06):
parts of huge lawsuits worth hundreds of millions of dollars
in which is a pot of gold ready to hand
out millions of dollars, a lot of which has already
been handed out out of the Epstein estate and out
of New York bankers, New York financiers, and others. A
lot of these women have been paid millions and millions
of dollars. And if what they say is true, I

(31:27):
have no reason no doubt it is. Isn't I believe
it is true? They're entitled to the money compared to who.
But I'd like to know the names of the men
who did this? Would you? Are they billionaires? Are they politicians?
Are they office holders? Are they Democratic bankers? Are they Republicans?

(31:48):
Who are they? I look on Wikipedia in the lawsuits
the names are out there, four or five of them,
but allegedly there were hundreds and hundreds of these men
for a thousand girls, maybe a thousand men. Who are they?
If you're the victim of a crime, the first thing
you want to do is identify the perpetrator and get
them locked up. Why haven't the victims come out and

(32:11):
identified the men who sexually molested them when they were
teenage girls. Why has that not happened.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Now?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
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(32:46):
Of course, one of the apostles I think of the
twenty first century. I'll call him the Saint Paul the
twenty first century. It was Charlie Kirk. To me, it's
amazing how the left needs to vilify him quickly, even
more than they've done in the past, to make sure
his message is not heard. I would note there's a
couple of stories out recently about colleges that have refused
Turning Point USA chapters, including the riot that took place

(33:08):
at Berkeley. So the radical left has to demonize Charlie
Kirk despite his christian like message, because it is feared
that if many college kids develop a conservative philosophy about
God and about family and about America, that's so positive
about our country that they may become, shall we say, conservatives,
form family structures, worship God, and also salute the American flag,

(33:31):
which are some of the principles of Charlie Kirk during
his lifetime. I still can't believe Charlie is murdered as
of September tenth. It was awful. We'll find out how
the trial takes place later next year. But there's a
documentary out Captain Kirk. Captain Kirk, a new documentary set
for release, How a young leader charted the way forward
for the next generation of great Americans. Joining you and

(33:53):
I now is the creator of that documentary. Joshua Phillips
and Joshua welcome to The Bill Cunningham Show. And first
of all, well before we get into the history of
what Charlie Kirk did, starting about twelve or thirteen years ago,
do you find it amazing that colleges which should be
arsenals of democracy, colleges that should allow the free flow
of ideas, especially at Berkeley, where free speech supposedly began

(34:16):
back about fifty years ago, the colleges are barring Turning
Point USA chapters from forming Do you find that surprising?

Speaker 5 (34:26):
You know, I should find it surprising. Unfortunately I don't
because this is the pattern we've seen. I actually just
spoke at an event in California with Rob Schneider, who is
you know, one of the main speakers at that event
in Berkeley to attack they got attacked by Antifa. I
will ask a question, though, why do college campuses allow
Antifa to shut down events but they don't allow a

(34:49):
Christian conservative organization to operate? A good question to.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Ask, Well, Rob Schauder was at that event, and we've
had on assistant US attorneysho are going to pursue that
possibly criminal charge. Let's go back to the beginning. Charlie
Kirk went to college quite briefly and said him out
of here. Explain the origins of Charlie Kirk when he
got out of high school, A brilliant guy. The messages
you got to go to college, get that sheepskin, you

(35:13):
gotta do it. He briefly went and left.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Why maybe the same reason that a lot of the
big successful names tend to follow the same battern. You know,
I did the same thing. I went to college for
a couple of years that you know what, I'm not
really doing anything with it. I'm gonna do something else,
and the same way with a lot of people like that.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
I think the unfortunate reality is colleges don't educate people.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Like they used to. And I mean, I'm not trying to,
you know, shoot it down people right have degrees or whatever,
but I do think being self educated will teach you
things that you're not going to be taught in college
these days. And I think what is being recognized is
that a lot of kids are being sold a bad deal.
They go to college, they get their degree, they graduate,

(35:57):
and they find that they can't do a lot with
it because they've been miseducated, or they've just been taught activism.
They've been taught how to go in protest, but not
how to go and find a job.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
So really they're in doctrinated, not educated. And one stack
came out from the Gallup Pole a few days ago
that forty percent of young women want to leave America
forty percent, and so the promises and most of these
women are highly educated. When I see protests today, Joshua Phillips,
I see often bright, a young educated white females that

(36:27):
are angry at everything and they want to leave the country.
That's an example of bad education, correct.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Fully agreed. And it's unfortunate too.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
I mean, imagine you have, you know, you raise a daughter,
bring her up right, she goes to college, you know,
you pay what fifty thousand a year or whatever it is.
They come out of it, they can't find a job.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
They hate the country, and they think that totalitarian communism
or socialism is the answered all their problems. They want
to bring a system into place that has killed with
you know what, one hundred million to one hundred sixty
million people. And I think that's good, But they think
America is evil. I think that is a result of
an absolutely failed education, total misrepresentation of history.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Joshua Phllip. Why did Turning Point USA succeed so greatly?
I'm going to ask you later, what's the future? When
when the leader dies, often the movement dies. But what
made Turning Point USA successful during the living years of
Charlie Kirk?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know, I think what made Turning Points so successful
is that Charlie Kirk went to the college campuses and
basically called him out. He was the guy saying, hey,
the Emperor has no clothes. And then when he said that,
everybody said, you know, what. I saw that too, and
I didn't want to say it. He was going to
college campuses, getting on the microphone and saying, Hey, whoever

(37:47):
disagrees with me, most grab the microphone, let's have a conversation.
Bring your professors out. I will debate your professors in
front of you. And he was making absolute fools out
of them because he was exposing it.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
That's why it succeeded, and it grew from a little
colonel into a huge mountain of ideas. When this happened,
when Charlie was murdered, because of what he was saying,
almost immediately the memes on YouTube, there were hundreds of thousands,
generally young, educated, white females, mocking the murder of a
father and a husband in an odd way. Did that

(38:23):
help turning point movement go forward? Or because didn't it
expose who they are?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
I think it exposed the radicals and I think it
exposed Let's put it this way, a lot of the
people who promote socialism do it under the guise of
moral good. They say, I'm a good person, you're an
evil person. I'm the one who's right by history, and
you're you know, you're the one, you know basically doing

(38:51):
the wrong thing as soon as they come out and
they support the murder of a man in front of
his children, you know, being shot of a neck, well,
trying to have an open debate, someone whose only crime
was to engage in discussion. And they're saying, I hate
freedom of speech so much that if someone disagrees with me,
I want to see them murdered in front of their
in front of their children. For somebody to be like

(39:14):
that shows that they lose the moral high ground. And
when people recognize, oh, you don't. These people don't believe
in kindness. These people don't believe in honesty, These people
don't believe in debate, the mask falls off and you
see them for what they are, and a lot of
people say, you know what you know? Rather than retreating
into the shadows, what happened was a lot of college
could say, I'm going to go be just like Charlie Kirk.

(39:36):
I am Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to do exactly
what he did.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
What surprised you most in this documentary about it's called
Captain Kirk? What surprised you about the internal dynamics and
growth of Turning Point USA?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Right, So, it's called I think Captain Kirk was the
marketing things, but it's called that truth under five, the
framing of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
But what surprised me the most actually was actually what
I really dug into was how Charlie Kirk was framed.
I wanted to do two things with his documentary. One
is set right the legacy of Charlie Kirk, and two
is to expose.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
What led to his death. You know, how is he
How there's a hit piece machine that tries to ruin
people's reputations, destroy their organizations, destroy their finances, make them
too afraid to speak out, and ultimately lead to threats
of violence which can result in actual violence, which is
exactly what happened to Charlie Kirk. But also just because

(40:39):
I think his legacy is being undermined right now, I
wanted to do something that explains what did he actually
stand for. Who was Charlie Kirk, what values did he espouse,
and what effect most importantly, what effect did he have
on young people?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Well, I would ask you the question, what values did
Charlie Kirk espouse? What was his belief system? Did it
evolve over the twelve years of his public life. What
do you say about that?

Speaker 5 (41:09):
You know, my conclusion is this, I don't think we.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Can replace someone like Charlie Kirk. He was a rare
individual because he had the ability to bring people together
across differences. I think for the conservative movement in particular,
he was a uniting force. He brought together. I mean, honestly,
you look at the Civil War among conservatives right now.
Charlie Kirk had his pastor speaking, He had you know,

(41:36):
Candice Owen speaking at events previously. He had Tucker Carlton
speaking at the recent ones. He brought together conservatives who
don't agree with each other, and that is challenging to do.
He brought together religious denominations that are very different from
each other. He brought them all together under a single
roof and said, you know what, put those aside. We
know we have a country to say. It's basically, we

(41:57):
have something we need to stand for that is broader
than our differences. And I think what he focused on
instead was the issues. He focused on, this is what
our kids are being taught, this is this is this
is the problem in our country that if we don't
resolve it, we're going to lose our country. He focused
on those types of things, not all the not all
the petty squabbling. And I think the effect of Charlie

(42:20):
Kirk was visible when I when I went to colleges
and I talked to young kids and I said, why
are you here? What are you doing? And I talked
to some of the people a turning point chapters. Despite
the disagreements we're now seeing at the surface, the legacy
of Charlie Kirk does live on in the youth.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
And a lot of them were deeply inspired to you know,
find their faith, uh to become more religious, to to
not be afraid of speaking out, to talk about their values,
to not be silenced. I think his legacy will live
on in the youth.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yes. How how critical was Charlie Kirk in that movement
to the reelection of Donald Trump in twenty two twenty four, Well.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
I think he was honestly so successful that a lot
of the media establishment.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
I think without Charlie Kirk, Trump would not have won
the twenty twenty four election. And I think that was recognized.
And so what had happened was this Charlie Kirk basically
got Charlie Kirk woke up the youth in America, the
college campuses have been kind of a hotbed of socialism,
going back to the hippie movement. You know, it used
to be that younger people tend to vote very far left.

(43:32):
When they get a bit older and start paying taxes,
they realized those policies don't work so well, and you know,
Charlie Kirk was really working to change that. A lot
of young people were starting to realize, you know what,
the enemy I've been taught is not the real is
not the real enemy, and you know, some of the
stuff I'm being taught in school is not the truth.

(43:54):
They really they realized they were being basically miseducated, said
false history and said a lot of false arguments. Charlie
Kirk was going there exposing it, and a lot of
kids were saying, you know what, this is what's really
going on, and they started really astounsing that. What I
also saw was that after twenty twenty four election, a

(44:14):
lot of the media started doing hit pieces on Charlie Kirk.
New York Times made it like a personal vendebted to
destroy Charlie Kirk. A lot of the media establishment was
pulling all kinds of narratives based on just false information,
you know, misrepresentation, half quotes and so on, trying to
frame him as racist and bigoted and all these things

(44:36):
because I think politically they recognized they had to destroy him,
to destroy what he represented.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Have they done that in the last three or four months.
Is Charlie Kirk bigger today than he was when he
was murdered on September the tenth? Is the movement growing?
Is the movement the same? Is it going to fail?
Is it a false high? Is it whipped cream and
not real? If I would have you on josh A
Fillip in about a year from now, what will you

(45:02):
say a year from now about the movement?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
I would say the movement?

Speaker 5 (45:09):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
So after tell Kirk died, he had his memorial in Arizona.
It was incredible. I mean, anybody who was there knows this.
They had two stadiums full. Even aside from two completely
filled stadiums, you had overflow space people they had to
turn away, like hundreds of thousands. I remember walking into

(45:30):
the press area and it's kind of in the middle
of the stadium and you just saw something take place
that day that I've never seen. I mean a lot
of people said he was a manitor. A lot of
people said that, you know, maybe in his death he
was even more powerful than he was in his life
because of what he inspired and all the people who
were there. I think that his legacy is now being

(45:50):
dragged through the mud because there's a lot of people
not trying to turn into other debates. They're fighting against him,
They're fighting against Turning Point. People are tearing each other's throats.
I think we'll have to see what happens with Charlie
Kirk's legacy because what I saw that day and what
also happened as people are trying to start up additional
Turning Point chapters. I mean tenfold increase in requests for him.

(46:15):
That was an incredible movement. But infighting, people spreading rumors,
these kinds of things. I think that does risk tearing
it all down and nothing will be achieved that that happens.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Headline out of Colorado quote Colorado professor emeritus calls Turning
Point USA supporters Nazis flips off camera after a chapter
is approved on the campus. Professor's name is David Kozak.
Ko Zak Kozak, former professor of anthropology at Fort Lewis College,

(46:46):
was caught on camera calling students their Nazis and flipping
them off, and after the chapter was approved, I've seen
many examples where students overturning tables, defacing Minu mentioned Charlie Kirk.
Fort Lewis College in Colorado said that mister Kozakt is
no longer employed by the institution. I guess that's a positive.

(47:11):
But can you answer quickly the charge of the radical
left to smear Charlie Kirk that he was a racist
and a Nazi. You hear that constantly. What's your response
to that.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
It's a false narrative that has been formed over the
course of close to a decade, going back to twenty seventeen. Actually,
my documentary focuses on exposing how those false narratives were
formed and developed.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
And it's ongoing. The documentary is truth under Fire and
you had great success I see with the COVID nineteen
documentary in twenty twenty some seventy five million views. And
we'll see what happens. His legacy now is up to
us to decide. I seldom see positive stories in the
mainstream media about Charlie Kirker Erica Kirk, and when they

(47:56):
had that big memorial service, etc. It was on CNN,
non on MSNBC, and now here we are a few
months later, and guess what Nazis and brown shirts and
racists or filling the air whenever turning point USA. Nothing
can be further from the truth. The three the three
principles of Charlie Kirk were God, family, and America. And

(48:19):
you don't hear much of that on college campuses. Well,
God family in America. And what is the website to
where I can direct people towards this for this documentary?

Speaker 3 (48:29):
They can go to EPICTV dot com, e p o
h TV dot.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Com, epictv dot com. And once again, Joshua Phillips, you're
a great American. Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And I'll put you back on in four or five
months to see the effect of this. How many views
there have been? What kind of reaction hasn't been. He's
being vilified and crucified and blasphemed all over college campuses.
Nothing can be further from the truth. It was all

(48:54):
about God, family in America. Nothing wrong with those principles.
Once again, Joshua, thanks for coming on the Bill cunning
I'm show and Joshua, You're a great American. Give my
best to all the people, epic and etcetera. And keep
doing what you're doing. Thank you, Joshua, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
God bless you all. Let's continue with more news coming
up your Home of the Bengals News Radio seven hundred
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(49:29):
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Speaker 6 (49:32):
It's already the lookout with the I think they they
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Speaker 1 (49:41):
Here we go Nicholas High School, Yes, with home of
the Rockets and Jerry durger are and also Brian Combs.
Brian Combs is a bowling coach. You ever hear of
Brian Combs. Yes, he's a tennis coach. He tells me
he's big there, but I don't think so. And you
think Brian Combs is pretty big?

Speaker 4 (49:56):
I do.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Darlene is there, Sega explain the Rockets have a rived
big time, Willie. These are the mc nicholas Rockets.

Speaker 6 (50:03):
They were Division four state champions and volleyball this year,
knocking off Delaware Buckeye Valley in three sets.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
No good. They won in seventy two minutes. Seventy two minutes.
That's longer than they got to how they want to
get to Wright State? Now, Darling, explain what happened. Give
me the last match you're up against it. You were losing.
Four your players had any problems, two other had cluster
migrant heading, they couldn't play. All of a sudden you
arose like a mighty tsunami. Explain what happened in a

(50:31):
big master to win the state title, Darlene.

Speaker 7 (50:34):
I think these girls have been preparing for this moment
all season, and I think it's hurt.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
No.

Speaker 7 (50:42):
Actually, we were mostly all healthy, and I think that
you know, they all came together as a team and
just took care business.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Undefeated, untied, unscored on state titled. This is the second
or third.

Speaker 7 (50:52):
First state title for the women's volleyball.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
And my good friend father Anthony Brownce next door at
the seminary, keeps an eye on mcnick and all that
kount of stuff. Introduce these girls, coach, tell me a
little bit about each of one of them.

Speaker 7 (51:03):
Okay, So I have my seniors Lauren Radkey, Ali Renti
and uh Sarah Hutchinson.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah, yeah, they are. They were great leaders for us
this year.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
And then we have eleven juniors here if you want
me to name them all on. Ali Strange is our levera.
Savannah Stacey is our outside hitter, sixth rotation. Tessa Calcitre
is a DS slash hitter. We also have Ellie Roth
who is also a setter, Josie Mayfield who's a middle hitter,
Lily Tierney who's a middle hitter, Penn hitters, Grace Tyranny,

(51:35):
Annabel Comer, Kennedy Haukey, and Kara Radkey.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Now, who beat you this year? There's one or two
schools that beat the crap out of the Rockets. Who
were they?

Speaker 7 (51:43):
Well, I wouldn't say beat the crap, but Fwick Fenwick
beat us in four early in the season, and Saint
Ursula took a match from us on the top.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
But you went back and then beat them about the
face head. Yeah, took care of it. Seg Man, Give
Darling and the team some sports and I we're going
back to the team to ask a few academic questions.
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Speaker 1 (52:19):
Did you watch the game yesterday?

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Sure? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
How was it not fun? I was ugly?

Speaker 6 (52:25):
Please continue segment after starting two and oh, the Bengals
are one and seven at their last eight.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Not good.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
They have given up twenty seven plus points and nine
consecutive games. That's a new National Football League record. At
least there's setin record.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Segment.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
Well, that's true, and let's see what else good news?
There's really nothing from nothing? Well down there, that's enough, Darlene.
How does the team look for next year? Many are
afraid to play McNicholas.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I know. I spoke to the girls volleyball coach at
Deer Park High School. They like to maybe schedule me
Nick next year. Could you measure up to Deer Park?
I think we could, then you could. How does it
look for next year's team? With all these seniors, so,
with all these titles graduating, they live quite a legacy
behind where the juniors and sophomores arise like a mighty
tsunami in the middle of the Pacific Ocean wash across

(53:11):
the land, picking up the dead bodies of their opponents.
Or are the mc nicholas done after this?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I hope that this can happen.

Speaker 7 (53:18):
Yes, So we have eleven juniors coming back, so I think,
I think we'll miss our seniors, but I.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Think they're tall. Yeah, they noticed it. Yeah I have Yeah. Now,
I got a few questions to ask girls. You every
now and then. I like to test whether or not
the high schools would come in here as state champions
can be champions in life, not just in sports. So
I have five questions from the US citizenship test. To
become a citizen, you have to answer some of these questions.
Can you name the three branches of the US federal

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government and segment you be quiet? Go ahead? What are
the three branches? Judicial, executive, and legislative? Excuse me, you're going? Now,
everybody went to Civics class. I think no, you didn't go,
did you? No? Now, the First Amendment guarantees five individual freedoms.
The First Amendment deals with five. Can you name four

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of the five? Speech assembly? Excuse me? Now, there are
three kind of rocks and Jim Jim morphoik foundations. Can
you name the three types of rocks in geology metamorphicy?

(54:29):
You better come up with some new ones. Well, now,
who did America fight in the War of eighteen twelve? Ready?
That's correct? Who said know that the crutches? All right?
Who did America fight in the Second World War? Who

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were the who were the Allies? And who were the
Axis powers? Give me the Allies first of all, and
an American Britain? But who do we fight in World
War two? Against journey? Damn? That's really good. What does
the Second Amendment guarantee? Don't look at me? You come

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up with a better questions? This is from the US
citizenship test. Also far they've they've made it. What is
the square ruto? What is the value of pie? Not lemonade,
not chocolate, apple? Apple? What is the value of pie?

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Can you name three sacraments? Baptism, confirmation, and.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
All? Right?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Name five organs in a human body?

Speaker 7 (55:50):
Skin, skin, ankreas?

Speaker 1 (55:54):
One more? One more? Are these girls in advanced classes
or what are they? They're pretty smart. They're pretty smart.
Who wants to go to college?

Speaker 5 (56:07):
All?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Are you seniors? Who's are you're a senior. Are you
to college? I'm not sure yet. I'm applied a couple
of different places, like boy, you probably save your Notre
Dame Tennessee, Ohio State. Those a couple of my top
ones right now. Next up, well, I'm reverbally committed to
MIT volleyball. I won't know for sure until I hear
back MSU being Michigan State. Am I excuse me? Okay,

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so coach? What is special about this team compared to
other teams was that the unity was the hard work,
the perseverance, and fear of God, the love of country.
What was it about this team that set them apart
from all the other girls volleyball teams in the state
of Ohio.

Speaker 7 (56:48):
I think that they uh the camaraderie that they have together.
They just really gel on and off the team, and
they do they work hard. I you know, I don't
think I even had to push them too much. They
were very self motivated and they had this goal of
coming back to state from two years ago when we
were runner up, runner up, yep, two years ago. Yeah
we weren't here two years I was, yeah, good.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
What is a jug at Sane next high school? That's it?
Any of these girls get detentions and things like that.
Stand in the corner. Oh, I'm sure never never any
girls ever get no, no, never have. They're too smart.
They're too smart for this. Does anyone to have a
grade below A? A? Is anyone? Four point every four

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point zero? Yeah, you give me hope for the future.
Congratulations girls, Next year you'll be back, Is that correct, darling, Yes,
you'll do that. Gonna win consecutive state titles again. And
the boys won in May, is that correct?

Speaker 7 (57:42):
Ay? And the year before too, so they were back
to back. So we're hoping to replicate that.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Now. Nil money is coming to high school sports. You're
aware of that. I did hear that? Yes, so these
girls are probably going to hold out to get ten
thousand dollars each to play next year. Name, image and lightness.
You can be marketed to other volleyball girls will make
a fortune. Are you in? I think the seniors. Seniors
just said they're staying. They're staying. Whose pictures on a
one dollar bill? How about a five dollar bill? How

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about a ten dollar bill? How about one hundred dollar bill.
You're not going to get them. Just take your medicine.
And he's the current n C double A football champion.
As I stand here now in uh February of this year.
Who won the n C double A men's football championship?

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Who won the men's basketball championship? Smarty pants? Who won?
That's it border, That's who won the men's college baseball championship?
Oh l s U, I got him right? College baseball Championship. Girls,

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you've won the game of volleyball, and I'll go win
the game of life. Three rules? Ready for my three
rules of life? Graduate? Can you do that? Number two?
Work or go to school? Can you do that? And
number three? Don't commit a crime? Can you do that?
Do you need a government program? Need somebody tell you
got to graduate? Anyone has to tell you. You can't ride

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a red bike, you can't have a you can't have
a lunch ticket, you can't do these other things. In
other words, you graduate, work or go to school, and
then don't commit a crime. Do you promise? Yeah, segment darling,
I'm impressed. Say get me out of the student's report. Please?
Will you?

Speaker 6 (59:40):
In honor of the mc nick rockis the Division four
state champions and volleyball their first state title, and many more.
We'll see you all their next year. We leave you
with the immortal words of the Stood Report.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
Always good be with you, Bill, see you later.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Lady brought that up. Who's the governor of the state
of Ohio? Who's the Vice President of the United States
of America? Seven hundred WLW Bill cunning in The Great

(01:00:19):
American picking up the pieces of what happened yesterday and more.
Great column by Jason Williams and the inquire also our
own talk about nineteen nineties being revisited and joining you
nine now is the great Jason Williams and Jason. First
of all, let's talk about your poor wife. She doesn't
understand the suffering, didn't understand what happened after Paul Brown died,
went through like fourteen consecutive years of losing seasons with

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the great general manager Mike Brown, brilliant strategist. Those were
the Shaken Bake years. And at this point it looks
like we're revisiting him kind of relate to the American people.
Conversations you had with your lovely wife about the future
of the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
I wasn't in Pittsburgh and sometimes h when they're on
the road, I'm I just I watch I hunk her
down in my bunker in my house and watch it
and study it and had my laptop up and my TV.
And then uh so then my wife after the game
comes into the room and just says, I and I'm
paraphrasing whatever the quote I had in there was like

(01:01:19):
what she said, but it was along the lines of,
uh now, I know you know what it's like. And
I'm like, what do you what are you talking about?
And she's like all those older Bengals fans, like, you know,
what they what they've dealt with, and what what why
they feel the way they feel all these years, like
the anger and the frustration and just the disappointment. And

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and then you know, she's like, I didn't be you know,
I wasn't really into football until you know, Joe Burrow
and they went to the Super Bowl and she just
goes on about this whole like and and it just
hit me in that moment. I'm like, it wasn't I
was like, I didn't expect anything because she you know,
usually she watches the games and doesn't really say anything.
And then it just hit me. I was like, Oh,

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this is what this is probably what it felt like
for those that new generation of fans in the eighties
or late eighties when they went to the Super Bowl
and the Gate and then you're thinking, like, Okay, uh,
they're you know Boomerosiacin and that whole era Chris, We're
gonna Christals where they're going to keep on building it.

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And uh, you know what three years later, four years
later in nineteen ninety one, Uh, they they have a
terrible season and that begins a run of fourteen consecutive
non winning seat I'd to say non winning because there
were a few eight and eight seasons in there, right,
and I just kind of like and then you start
to really dig into this, Willie, and then you think,

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oh gosh, this is this is this has potential to
go into some dark period for this franchise. And then
I don't think I'm not I'm definitely not saying this
has the shot of you know, being like a night
eighteen nineties and fourteen, you know, but went into the
twenty the fourteenth straight non winning seasons. But when you
look around, I mean, this defense is not an overnight fix.

(01:03:10):
It's not a it's not a one off season fix.
It is there are lots of problems there. Yeah, and yeah,
you you just sit here, and I know we've talked
about this a lot, but you just sit here and
you shake your head and you're like, they are going
to waste the Joe Burrow years, as he says, he
you know, he turns thirty next year, he turns twenty
nine here in what a few weeks, Yeah, in December.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
It's old and it is over.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
It's a dang shame. It is a dang shame.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Yeah, from the moment that kid that went you win
it all, you got the national title. You're in a
locker room, you're smoking a cigar. The swagger of Joe Burrow.
He's become bengalsild guy. He wants to play for the Bengals.
And I didn't try to get out, didn't pull a
John Lway say I'm not playing for that team. They
stink r He came to the Bengals. I think it

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won four games with Zach Schuller the first year. You
come in. All of a sudden, within a couple of years,
you're in the Super Bowl, and it's unbelievable, the excitement
in this town and you relate. Your wife had said,
I never was in the Bengals in the football until
Joe Burrow and the Super Bowl team quote. All the
newer Bengal fans and now going through with the older

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Bengal fans have talked about and dealt with for years,
the disappointment, the frustration, the anger. Seventeen chapters in this book,
and almost every game is a new chapter of ineptitude.
And now we have Spitgate.

Speaker 8 (01:04:29):
Explain Spitgate, Well, you know Jalen Ramsey, the defensive backs
who were of Pittsburgh and Jamar Chase get into it
on the field and.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
You know they what they throw flag and he said,
you know, he spit on Jalen Ramsey. And then in
the locker room.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Afterwards he lied to the me.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Marquise said, no, I didn't spit on the guy. And
then all of a sudden, all these videos start surfacing
and which clearly, it clearly shows that something came out
of his mouth toward Jalen Ramsey. And so now you're
looking you've got to be looking at uh, you know,
and that adds to it. Now, if that's the one off,
and you know, they watched a tough, close game and

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they played well, you know, if they played the way
they played against Pittsburgh, a month ago or something like that,
like him. But see something like that is now exacerbated
because of how poorly they played, because of now they're
three and seven, because of how big of a mess
the defense is, because of the whole Joe Burrow Is
he coming back?

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
Is he not?

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Do you throw all these Bengal Bengal bengled them things
on it? And that that just makes the whole thing worse.
And now he's he's a guy would think he's got
to be facing a suspension and a hefty fine for that.
And then I also wonder, you know, does it is
it even worse for him because you know, he said

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one thing to the media and the video shows a
completely different thing. So I wonder what the NFL is
going to take into account and his comments and whether
you know that he didn't own it. So it's all
it's all a big mess. It's frustrating. I think extra
frustrating too, because this is the guy who's really emerged
as obviously he's a great player, but he's he's also

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a guy who's emerged as a as a strong voice
in the locker room. So what about all those younger
players that they're trying to get to come around on
that defensive side. What do they think? And when they see,
you know, one of the stars of the show doing that,
it's bad. It's spiraling downward. And I see no. I

(01:06:39):
certainly this season's over and but I see no real
turnaround point yet And where is this thing going to turn?
And that's why I you know again, I don't want
to play dooms Day here. Start of this is the
start of you know, ten years, a lost decade or
anything like that. But wow, there are some this looks

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this is this looks pretty bad for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
You say, you feel like Bengals fans are owed some
sort of explanation. You win, Zach Taylor also known as
Zach Schule, I had that myself. Roster architect Duke Tobin fired.
You want the Bengals to hire a real general manager
of fully staff scouting if but you want wholesale changes,
none of which are going to happen. The major a
draft pick this year has been Shamar Stewart, who, according

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to Tony Pike, that Jamar Chase has more tackles than
Shamar Stewart. A wide receiver has more tackles than a
defensive end who didn't want to sign with the Bengals
till their language was right and he twicted his ankle.
Now he's got a knee. He's not going to play
another another loss, force round, first round draft choice getting
like eighteen million dollars. He's completely worthless. On the field,

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he was terrible. He wasn't very good at Texas A
and M. He averaged one point five sack a season.
But I guess Duke Tobin saw something in him that said,
that's the guy to take the place A Trey Henderson,
who's a team captain, didn't travel to the game. What
is that? Has Zach Shuler lost the locker room?

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
I wrote last week that he hadn't, and I talked
to some guys and I don't think that he has.
I think the culture piece of the locker room is, uh,
you know, that's where that's Zach's strength. And I don't
think that he has lost the locker room. You know,
now now you can sit here and say a guy's
spitting on a player, and uh, you know, they come

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out looking completely ill prepared. I really don't think he's
lost the locker room. I think that it is a
locker room that is that is. I don't think he's
lost the locker room, but I think it's a bunch
of guys who are lost in terms of how to
how to play football and how to win. You don't
have Joe Burrow, you are. It is an extreme divide.

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And and this is on the front office that you've
set this team up to where you've got a super
Bowl offense for them, obviously when Joe Burrow is playing,
and you've got I mean, I'm not kidding, Willie, You've
got a defense full of guys who would be second
and third string at best on most NFL defenses. Now,
there are a few bright spots. DJ Turner is a

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good player, obviously, Trey Hendrickson, but he's he's hurt right now.
Those guys are those guys are starters in the NFL.
But otherwise you've got most of those guys are backups
if that on NFL rosters. And so that Zach Taylor
has a really tough job in balancing what the front
office has given him. And uh, I don't in a

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in an incredible offense and a very really awful defense.
And so I think that I think that the saving
grace there in terms of whether you know, the culture
piece and whether he's not lost the locker room is
that you've got a bunch of defensive guys who were
so young, and that they are all none of there's
no real strong voices there and so they don't know

(01:09:57):
what they don't know sort of thing. And in terms
of of being NFL players yet, I don't know if
they're gonna it's gonna click for him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
It doesn't look good on paper, it looks awful. Now
you got a tough part of the schedule coming, you
got the Patriots, and you got Thanksgiving Night, the hard
part's coming. Well, we got to run. But Jason Williams
the columns of cincinnai dot Com, all we have is hope.
Hope is gone. Now I have faith. I have faith,
but I've lost hope. And hope is going to come somewhere,
but I don't know where. And I think it's kind

(01:10:24):
of stupid to put Joe Burrow back out there. But
then the integrity of the game comes into you know,
the NFL is going to say, look, you have a quarterback.
He can play. You've got to be able to play
your best team even if you're gonna lose. You got
to put up something against the Ravens on Thanksgiving night,
so we'll see what happens. But nineteen nineties revisited and
Zach Shull was likely to serve one more year because

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he's making about four and a half million dollars a year.
He's got one more year left on his contract, and
we're going to see this through. But Jason Williams, thanks
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show this Monday afternoon.
Good luck to you, and say hi to your wife
for me. She's put her finger on something.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Thank you, my friend, and give the segment a big.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Hug for him.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Ok.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Yeah, I'll kick him in the ass and give him
a donut. Jason, thank you very much. All right, let's
continue with more your comments. Next Shit's are Home of
the Bengals these radio seven hundreds WW all right. Billy
Cunningham the great American. And whenever I have the high
school kids in have won state championships, it always gives
me hope for the future otherwise not present. How many
times if you've read about bad things done by teenagers

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and that hardly ever happens. If your time and talents
would take it up with school and sports and social
engineering that kind of stuff, you're good to go. In fact,
I cannot recall in the last forty years a high
school doing better on my pop quiz than McNicholas High
School and the girls a volleyball team the state title
because the leadership with Darlene and many others. How many people?

(01:11:49):
How many citizens know that five freedom is guaranteed in
the First Amendment? Or whose pictures on a one, five, ten,
twenty and one hundred dollars bill? Or who the American
fight in the War of teen twelve or named the
three kind of rocks? Or give me the score root
of thirty six? What is the value of pie? I'm
not talking about chocolate, a cherry, your apple. It's unbelievable performance.

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I doubt they're going to be a dreg to society.
I bet everyone moves on to college or some other
productive labor. I bet everyone meets a guy and gets
married and have kids, which is according to the precepts
of Segment's good friend Charlie Kirk, who said three things
in life priorities Number one God, number two is family,
and number three is America not bad. And I wonder

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in college today how often you hear about God family
and America not very much. The fact is almost counter revolutionary.
So these girls in the future are going to go
on to college, They're going to meet some guy, get married,
have a productive life, be a mother, be a wife,
which is one of the highest callings a person can have,

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and then be a productive member of societ and not
someone who is taking from the system of someone paying
into the system. And that's the way it ought to be.
I don't mind paying taxes. It's rent to live in
the greatest country in the world. However, I want my
tax dollars to be used wisely. I would note that
this morning the person in charge of the foodstamp business,

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Agricultural Secretary of Brook Rowlins, said this morning that she's
going to demand by the first of the year that
everyone on foodstamps reapply to determine how many people actually
are alive that receive it and what's their status. She
says that up to five million of the forty two
million are illegal aliens. There's several million that are dead,

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and there's a couple million that received benefits in two
different states. And that was meant to be a lifeline
for low income households, wasn't meant to be a landing spot.
She also is going to demand that all the soda
pop and the candy and the cheese toodles be taken out.
They had to get nourishing food. How about that concept?
And so this comes from twenty nine of the states

(01:14:05):
that have supplied information to the Feds. Twenty one states,
I might add, all blue states have refused to send
to the Department of Agriculture who's on food stamps. You see,
the foodstamp program is administered by the states, but paid
for by the federal government. So it'd be interesting to
know how many people are on food stamps that should

(01:14:28):
not be on them. Each recipient gets about two hundred
dollars a month. And as a practicing Roman Catholic, I
want every hungry person to be fed, absolutely, but I
strongly suspect that about half the people on food stamps
should not be on food stamps. In fact, maybe they
should be working. Like segment Dennison, who gets here about
four o'clock in the morning and stays until about three

(01:14:50):
o'clock in the afternoon. He works. What a novel concept
to work. And so I hope she follows through with this,
and that would say billions and billions of dollars. The
cost of food stamps in twenty nineteen was approximately forty
billion dollars. The cost of food stamps today is well

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over one hundred billion dollars. In fact, in the nineteen fifties,
one of fifty Americans were on food stamps. Today it's
one in eight, and I can't believe the society has
changed that much over the past fifty years. People are
gaming the system for personal benefit, and the benefits should
be there for those in need, not those that refuse

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to work, or for those are on food stamps and
multiple locations, or for dead people. Shouldn't work that way.
So I want to congratulate Secretary of Agriculture Brook Rollins,
and maybe she'll follow through with this, but she needs
the information from the Blue States who's getting food stamps
to cross check whether they're entitled, or even to check
whether they're alive or dead. What a novel concept. Let's

(01:15:55):
continue with more news is next along with Rocky Boys
making an appearance to talk about Santa versus Muller. And
as you know, I contacted Denise Treehouse, the county commissioner
who called Keddy Blackburn, and they're more than willing to
host these events at pay corps, but ohsaas never asked.
They simply scheduled for Mason High School that holds five thousand,

(01:16:16):
and there's fifty thousand desperate fans that want to attend.
Two thirty Home of Your Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati, Hello,
Byett Mom Skulls. I'm broadcasting one is the draft this year.

(01:16:42):
We gotta get ready for the NFL April April. Bengali
have a top three pick, do you think? And let's
do Toba make it top ten. See, but that's the thing,
top three pick. I could make that pick. Seig to
make that pick? Not sure about it. You gotta make
picks later in the rounds. That's how you are going
upon which to make a decision. They don't scout anyone,

(01:17:03):
just kind of watch a little tape and and then
the Duke Tobin flips a coin and away you go.
Now you're avoiding the obvious question question, the big one
of the more. We're gonna talk about Al Golden without
the D. I now call him Goldan no d in Golden.
That's a notre dame. Wait wait, wait, time out. So
you were blaming.

Speaker 9 (01:17:22):
If you're blaming the defensive utility on al Golden, are
you correct?

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Not the players? Not the players. It's the archite Carter
Metri's night that were thrust into about that one running
through like an incredible hulk. People look like the three
stooges out there trying to tackle him. Now, to be fair,
that kid is six seven to seventy and he break
them down. That's that's I go low like talk tackling

(01:17:48):
offensive tackle? Would you go on that absolutely try to
hold onto a kneecap before just take him out? How bad?
Wasn't Rock You didn't probably hear the game watching?

Speaker 9 (01:17:57):
I actually had I actually it was busy with my
own football on Sunday, but I rewatched the game. Unfortunately.
What about the spit game? Well this morning, that's bad.
He's a captain. Can't do that right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Stephen A. Smith says two games send a message in
the players.

Speaker 9 (01:18:11):
Adam Chef there four hours ago said the NFL will
make a ruling today.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
That's two forty.

Speaker 9 (01:18:16):
Where are they don't know what Jalen Carter got one game.
It was that game when he spit on Dak Prescott
in week one of the season started the present. They yeah,
but the president is set, so it should probably be
one game. Now do they look ill upon the fact
that he lied and said that he didn't do it?

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
He lied in the media rock he lied. He committed
perjury of the media. Can't do that.

Speaker 9 (01:18:38):
Look, if you want to stop things from happening, right,
if you want to stop you know, muggings downtown on
Fountain Square, you want to stop people's you got to
make the punishment harsh, right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
At least two million dollars. So you got, That's what
I'm saying. You got, It's got to be something where
the players go, whoa noting to that? You're not thinking
of those by the way, you know, I was thinking
about the earlier. You know, all the times the most
inexcusable thing that ever happens is when a guy is
running for a touchdown he drops the ball short of
the goal line. Right. It happens like all the time. Right,

(01:19:11):
if I were coaching a team, you would get fined
one million dollars if you drop the ball. That would
stop it. That would stop it right there. Well, anyway,
what was the issue. You're avoiding the issue? What is it?
Al Golden from Notre dame.

Speaker 9 (01:19:25):
You blame that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
You blame this on him and not the coaches. The
grand architect of the Nile, I'm julianna Umo was in
charge of this defense last year. He gotta go. We
got player lou and he goes to the Colts and
they're like really good. But in the same players are
with the Bengals and how could you They had a
bye week they had and there's nothing you can do.
How many times a guy to say this, they don't

(01:19:47):
have good enough players. That's what wins football games. Good
players wins football game sake good players. The Bengals have
enough of one defense. No, Zach Schuil has said after
the game, we have to we just have to. We
got tackle harder, we gotta we gotta clean up. Well,
he's a captain spitting at Jalen Rams. He was a

(01:20:08):
clown anyway, He's the one that green.

Speaker 9 (01:20:10):
He is a clown. Now, that guy's an ultimate clown.
But you can't do that. He's baiting you for a
reason and he took the bait and ran with it.
You're not answering my question.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
What is the question? Here's the question. What I talked
to your friend Denise Treehouse. Yes, so called Katie Blackburn Brown. Yes,
he said, thank you, but we got to get the
sand X smaller game to pay cores. What kind of
sense does that make? First of all, it makes no sense.

Speaker 9 (01:20:34):
When I when I played the regional game was at Nipper,
everybody local could come. You know, those fans had packed
in stack Well, because in this day and age of
nil and always thousands of other recruiting violations, they say
it's a recruiting violation.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
For UC to host a game at never It's dumb.
It's so dumb. There would be twenty thousand.

Speaker 9 (01:20:55):
People easy, easily, great. We at this Elder Santax game,
great weather. The whole deal houses about three thousand and
they're sold out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Can't get it. So I said to Denise, you get
a hold of Katie and then call the OHSA. I
will get behind this whatever I have to do. You see,
it got to be done today today, I said, well,
so done today. She wants the OHSA to call Katie
Blackburn Brown and say can we have the game? What's
the deal? And the county says, whatever it's going to be,

(01:21:24):
we'll take care of it. Let's go. But it's got
to be done today by six o'clock. Otherwise it's too late.
Bengals play on Sunday at one o'clock. Okay, but it's
Friday night time. Cleaning up was good, fifty degrees player
skies perfect. So Ohsa, he's got a call. But that's
a black hole. They don't want the game. They don't
want money like money, they don't they don't want money.

(01:21:45):
And that'll make so much money if you do a
hell of a deal. Well, you know it's let's met,
Katie says, okay, So what's the price? I said, well,
get have them give me a call? Can you have
them give her a call? Yes? Who is the HSA?
Who is that? Well? Tim Stree is the guy I
know up there. Why don't you call him? I'm gonna
get a hold in Winstonder an email right now, right now.

(01:22:05):
County commissioners and the Bengals agree. They have the game
here on Friday at seven o'clock. According to the Nise
tree House, the Bengals say, okay, now the money's got
to be worked out. But she said no, well, don't
make it work. Yeah, she said, won't make it work.
Katie's on board with this. Why can't you make it happen.
We're gonna try to make it happen. Do it right now?

(01:22:25):
Why did you do something? I don't know those guys Ohesa.
I got the ballot right here to pay the players
right there? No money, principal's got Princeville, the floodgates open
nine to one. No, Kenji Madeira High School. No, nobody
in high school wants to pay these players right, they're
going to say no.

Speaker 9 (01:22:46):
The issue is other states allow high school players.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
That's why.

Speaker 9 (01:22:51):
Honestly, why Chris Henry, Why I'm going to modern day whatever?
When he was at Withrow. How much money it makes?
Some money can't say say how much you getting? So
like no one loves this, but it's like we've got
to do it or else we're gonna lose top players
to other other states.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
That important? Do you want Elder and Sandex players? You
want differ players? Pid? No, I know Doug Ramsey doesn't
want to those. DESPEC doesn't want to. No. No, it's
gotta say no, and that if they go to some others.
How many Chris Henry's are there right kids that we
go absolutely, yeah, there's twenty of them. Try to get
this done today by six. We're gonna try then, tell

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third three thousand, tell them that the county commissioners and
the Bengals agree they have the game in pay court.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
State.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Tim Street listens to this program, and I'm gonna get
hold of them, get ahold of them. I will say,
give me some sports. Will heave the students?

Speaker 6 (01:23:41):
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Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
It's still gonna play the game with three thousand tickets?
Am I right or wrong?

Speaker 9 (01:23:58):
I mean everyone, all the sin X folks do are
losing their minds because you can't get a ticket to
go to the game.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
You can't biggest game in a decade. Can can san
X beat Moller when they didn't do it during the
regular season, Well they just did. I'm sorry, angles up.

Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
They brought town in Northern Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
I thought I thought sane X beat Elder? What did
the Elder during No X about season? I wasn't at
that game? Will you be quiet? X?

Speaker 9 (01:24:34):
Pete Moeller in the regional semifinal at Dayton Welcome Stadium
on Friday. Fantastic game and watched on TV when I
was in Lexington. Well there was fantastic officials. I was
told Maler had two touchdowns. They called back on penalties
the officials X.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Gratch, No, that's not right.

Speaker 6 (01:24:52):
Bengles Line tonight at six o five here on seven
hundred W b W.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
You sure didn't go to St x positive.

Speaker 6 (01:24:59):
Get the latest on the Xavier Musketeers to night Richard
Patino Show at seven on fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Five calling that game.

Speaker 9 (01:25:05):
By the way, it was late in the game and
I think they gave us a makeup anyway, but they
called unsports my conduct. When a says kids sacked the
quarterback and Kobe Clapper goes over to like like like yeah,
farm up and they act and they said he was
taunting his quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
It was yeahs don't know how they should have got
some jokes.

Speaker 9 (01:25:26):
If Grandma can't see the foul from the top of
the deck of the stands, you shouldn't throw the flag.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
And how come but jamar Cha is going to get
a flag when no one called it at the time. Well,
luckily there was well luckily or unluckily for him, there
was one Cincinnati media member that had a camera shot
right there. Fox at nineteen. You didn't get away with
that stuff anymore. There's too many cameras. Everybody has cell phones.
Something came out of his mouth. I'm not sure what
it was, bile, it was clear in his throat.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
Red's update well, the single games tickets for all twenty
twenty six Reds regular season hard games at GABP are
now on sale, including opening day on sale for a
limited time through Monday, November twenty fourth. Single game tickets
are available with no fees.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Rock getting ready for the Reds or getting ready for
the opening day and also for the draft right.

Speaker 6 (01:26:13):
Twenty eight players are on the twenty twenty six Baseball
Hall of Fame ballot.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Three Reds. Who are they rate their chances? Sin Sue Chew?
What centerfield or left? No?

Speaker 6 (01:26:29):
Matt Kemp he was here for like five games. Former
Dodger and.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Beg Eddie Big, Edie Milner, No, not talking about Eddie
Fingers either. Edwin n.

Speaker 6 (01:26:41):
Carnassion is on the Baseball ballot. No, he's in.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
I know that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:48):
The favorites are Carlos Beltran of the Mets and Andrew Jones,
the former Braves.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Great, yeh know what not good? There were? There are
those Hall of famers.

Speaker 6 (01:26:58):
Ad A Rod's on list, Ryan get drugs, drugs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Well, I got a text here from Pete Whitty. Elder
games sold out in forty five minutes, almost like a
Tayte concert. Now there's no tickets available to watch Elder
kick the crap out of Saint X. You want to
go double or nothing on a hot fut Sunday, I'll
take care. Let's give you say do it right? You're
Bill Belichick?

Speaker 9 (01:27:20):
Bet, well, we're not out of the woods yet. They
still Sunday four wins. They got two games left. But
and also the NC Double A and times when there's
not enough quality bulletpons, they will give a five win
team in Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
So if that stipulation happens, I still get my hot.
We're going to play UC December twenty sixth in Phoenix, Arizona.
Can't wait for that action. Belichick goes from the Super
Bowl to the Toilet Bowl. Well, why does any give
it up and go coach the New York Giants? That
was my prediction, because why don't you just go home

(01:27:54):
with Jordan? I would for a while. What's he seeing her?
What's he getting out of her? Do you think I
have no idea?

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
You do?

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Have you texted yet? Side penetration?

Speaker 6 (01:28:05):
No, I'm gonna email it Emil Family.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Show, lap I just got it, Wally Sweeney. Listen to
this one touchdown and one on five yard line insane
set it downs called back and twenty yards of penalties
at sant X held down and beat up on the
maller guys. Nothing was called but penalty after penalty on
mallor none on st X.

Speaker 4 (01:28:29):
Over.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I'm just saying that's.

Speaker 9 (01:28:31):
It was going to be fourth and like a million
and they called a bs unsports frolike conduct.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Okay, gave new life bullers drove.

Speaker 9 (01:28:40):
Down the field, they went four on fourth down, did
not get it s extra of ninety some yards touchdown.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
See, you would want to be You don't tell me
the facts. I have my opinion. Don't confuse me with
the fact exactly. That was awkward by the.

Speaker 9 (01:28:56):
Mcnick volleyball crowd. The best they knew everything. I saw
him in the hallway where it came that those kids
is bright.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Yeah, I mean I have the five questions of the
citizenship test, Yes, but the doing but a big boy back.
How about knowing who we fought in the War of
eighteen twelve. I bet you there's a lot of high
school kids that don't know that we know what eighteen
twelve and that all they know is six seven sixty seven.
They know sixty seven, don't know eighteen twelve. Do you
have any hope for I have little hope. I have faith,

(01:29:25):
but I don't have hope that the Bengals are going
to arise? Would you play Joe Burrow at this point?
I just know.

Speaker 7 (01:29:34):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
I guess he's going to It's a matter of integrity.
You know, you can play a game competitive balance. You
got to play right. Yeah, but that's very subjective.

Speaker 9 (01:29:45):
I mean, guy's recovering from a complex, complicated toe surgery.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
He's had them all, hadn't he all of them? Toe? Knee, calf, appendix, wrist.
What's next?

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
One or two? That's the thing. If it's you risk
something else, testicle, something's gonna hurt.

Speaker 9 (01:30:04):
Hopefully he learned. He's got to get the ball out
of his quicker. He's got to dump the ball down.
You can't wait for the his worst game on Sunday.
But he's hurt pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
He's hurt. He's hurting.

Speaker 9 (01:30:14):
He looked a little showing his age, and Aaron Rodgers
beat up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
You know, he doesn't look good in his Steelers helmet.
Aaron Rodgers doesn't look good. Bad look. Yeah, Bason Rudolph
took him to the Promised Land. So we'll see what
what's on the big show besides trying to get the
Sandax game at Pey Corps.

Speaker 9 (01:30:32):
Well, me and Eddie are going to discuss the Bengals
game on Sunday. Where do we go from here? Give
my thoughts on the look from here on out. This
is an audition. There's an audition to see who belongs
on this team next year, especially on defense, young linebackers,
Eric Carter, Demetri's Knight. They deserve to be starters. They
cleared the deck for these guys them up and and

(01:30:55):
and and I said it at the time. They put
too much on him, too quickly, taking too rookies. Okay,
that weren't you know, generational talented picks. And all of
a sudden they went from like zero plays. So you're
playing sixty five plays and you're playing nickel, you're playing dime,
you're calling the defense you're getting guys lined up.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
It's too much, too much, too much. I just gave
away the whole first segment and nonetheless, and you have
you have a Shamar Steward who picked him. It's terrible.
Trey Henderson. Now four games. Trags is gonna join us
at four thirty five. By the way, he's a weigh
in and Jamar Jason travel to the game. How about that?
You got one captain spitting in the face, another captain

(01:31:32):
doesn't show up. Has he the game? Thirty million? It's
not firing. I'm firing right there. I mean, how much
can you take?

Speaker 9 (01:31:40):
It's already done anyway, just laying down what's right and
what's wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Thirty million dollars. Trey Henderson income a game. It doesn't
go to the game. It's hurt he said. It's Stuart
signing again.

Speaker 9 (01:31:52):
What do you mean when he's signing the game and
go through all this nonsense again?

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
The contract, it's over, it's over. Can't take it?

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
It ic.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
What do you do? You sit there and just every
Monday just pick up the pieces of disaster. At least
got the UC barcut football team looking at that, Well,
you know what mess?

Speaker 6 (01:32:14):
We got face face and Saturday Sunday Messy five o'clock,
five o'clock mess l Stadiumstern Conference Action, Messy, f C,
the the mess Messy who likes Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
I'm taking Miami. I'll give you f C. You want
messy it all, take f C. Then I'll give you all. Right, Tay,
get me out. He's gonna turn turn it, turning your
back on your home team. I didn't, I just I
just switched into her. But just see if you jump
on it. That's all I did. Give me my hot
fudge Sunday by tomorrow. Don't let the facts barrow on

(01:32:46):
that coming back. But I'll bring your hot money. N
I l money. Yeah, high schools buy an I else
about right behind your Rocke is me Nicholas High School.
The girls smart, bright and gives me hope for the future.

Speaker 6 (01:32:59):
Right there, milk what that's a sponsor for the tournament.
And I l they all signed. They all signed that dove.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
And they were smart, smart, they were charismatic, They're joyful.
I was wonderful friendly. I have whenever hit kids like
that come in here, I have I have faith. I
have not hope, but you have faith. I have faith.
I don't have any hope no Rock find out from
them about the game. I want to get it to
be known as the Rocky Boorman Bowl done. Get it done,

(01:33:28):
say get me out of the Stude's report.

Speaker 6 (01:33:30):
Police, Well you and honor of a beautiful day here
in the tri State, we leave you with the immortal
words of the stewed report.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
I want to feel what pure love feels like. That
was my intention, Aaron Rodgers, and I did that time.
I really did. I had a magical experience with uh,
the sensation of feeling one hundred different hands on my body.
I like to get two hands in my body. I

(01:34:00):
was in the Bengals defense. Beggars can't be choosers, I guess,
but Aaron, I gotta leave a few for the rest
of us, right, So that's like Jeffrey Epstein. I can't
say that. I can't say that, Rock, thank you. See
you think I feel. I feel mystical and mythical. I
want one hundred hands all over my body rubbing me.
I'll take two. I'll take two on seven hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
W o w

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Mm hmm.