The Bill Cunningham Show -- 12/1/125

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
By Billy cunning in the Great America will welcome this
somewhat intrepid Monday afterning in the tri State as we
get ready for the storm tonight and tomorrow. But until then,
the Vivek Ramaswami is running for the governorship of the
Great State of Ohio as a Republican. I still can't
believe that Amy Acting is going to be the Democratic nominee.
They got to be kidding me. But Vivek is in
town for a Turning Point USA event which I think

(00:27):
is open to the public of the University of Cincinnati tonight.
Viveke Ramaswami, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
first of all, do you really believe that the Democrats
are going to put up Amy Acting against you? I mean,
isn't that a stalking horse for someone else? She cannot
be serious.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, look, it's their choice, it's their party, and they
can put.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Up their nominee.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
As you well know, she led the COVID lockdowns, including
leading our state to being the first state in the country,
Billy to shut down the public schools. And what I
think is she owes those kids in apology, those two kids,
those two years of kids in Cincinnati public schools will
never get those years back. Shows am an apology, but

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that's up to them. I'm focus on the positives. We're
running to lead this state to new heights, and I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Excited, Billy.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
We're doing well on a lot of metrics of the state,
including the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
This weekend, if I may say, including Ohio State. We
had a good football weekend over Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
But we want to win off the football field as well,
and that's where I'm going to lead us.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I would like to thank Shared Brown who said he's
going to run for the Senate, or maybe Tim Ryan
who said he's not going to run at all, or
somebody but Amy act and that'd be embarrassing, but that's
not your concern. Secondly, when you bring up education, you
had an idea about year round schooling, which may not
be real popular with the parents or the teachers or
the school board.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Number one, is that true?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Number two? How would you find it? Number three? How
would it work? Year round schooling?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, it's not a policy proposal, Billy, but it is
an idea that's come up from a lot of parents.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
And one of the things I'm doing is I'm traveling.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Across the state, talking to people who have kids in
public schools and private schools, charter schools, and homeschools, and
we're listening, and I'm even going into the inner city
places where traditional Republicans may have historically shied away from.
And one of the things we hear from those parents
and also the teachers in those communities is especially poorer
students when they show up in those poor school districts

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after summer break, they've fallen behind because they're not engaged
over the summer. And so I just think we've got
to be thinking open mindedly of how we're going to
list up education for everybody, because the academic outcomes at.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
This point really are unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
You think about how many young students are not proficient
in math in eighth grade. You think about the high
school graduation requirements they've fallen so much. And by the way,
many parents don't necessarily have the ability or even the
knowledge of how to take that on at home either.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
So education starts with the family.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
But I want to bring some standards back to our
public schools, and we're keeping an open mind on how
we do that across the board. Third grade literacy that's
a basic requirement reading guarantee by the end of third grade.
I want one hundred percent of third graders in.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Ohio to be able to read.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
That puts those kids on a better trajectory for the
long run. And I say this as a Republican. I
want people to hear me loud and clear. It's not
just to lift up the people who agree with me.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's not just to lift up the Republicans in the state.
It's to lift up.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Everyone in this state, including those inner city kids who
have been left behind by the Democrats that they've historically
their parents.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Have voted for.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I think there's a better way, and that's what we're
offering them in every domain, including education.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, you know, I don't know if you saw the
results from the inquiry. They said that about seventy one
percent of black boys are chronically absent from school. Overall
is forty five percent, and Cincinnati public schools don't attend.
You went to saying ex lived in Springfield Township for
a while, forty five percent are chronically absent in the

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public school system. Seventy one percent of black boys are
chronically absent. The great majority of those who graduate cannot
read their diploma. And so I've been around the block
a few times. In every governor the last thirty or
forty years have said we got to improve that, we
got to improve that. And I know Bush forty three
came out with a guarantee to read by the fourth grade. Heck,

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we have kids who can't read by the time they're
seniors in high school. And so this is a monster
is undertaking.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Man, this is serious, and this is something a governor
can actually deliver. All Right, education should not be federalized.
This is not a job for the US president. This
is a job for a good governor. And that's part
of why I'm in this. You think about the Democrats,
they have perpetuated the very policies that create that inequality.
But think about Cincinnati, right, So I went to public

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schools actually in Cincinnati three eighth grade, and then I
went to Saint X for high school. Cincinnati public schools
were shut down for over a year and a half
during COVID. Well Saint X my alma mater, was closed
for just five days. So now those sin Democrats, including
Amy Act and my opponent, complain about that educational inequality, Well,
their policies are the ones that actually created that inequality.

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And then the irony is they have absolutely zero policy
vision for how to fix it. And when a guy
like me is proposing new ideas that are out of
the box, like the third grade reading guarantee, like other
ideas that we're hearing from parents across the state, they
complain about it, but they don't have an actual solution
of their own. So it's up to us now as

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Republicans that's just to complain about Democrats, but more importantly,
to lead with actual affirmative solutions of our own. And
I'm confident that if we start at a young age,
we're going to create economic opportunity for those kids.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
For some of those kids'.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
College education may not be the right path, that's okay.
Let's bring skills based, trade based training into high school.
Earn while you learn, programs indicate through twelve education so
those kids can live with dignity without for your college
debt after they graduate from high school as well. That's realistic,
it's actually achievable, and by the way, we can do
it while bringing down property taxes. Is the other thing

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the left complains about in my campaign is they say,
how can they Cramosami bring down property taxes while also
improving the quality of education.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
And I say the answer is, you're dark right.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
We can do both because part of the problem is
we're ineffectively spending that money.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
So if we bring down property.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Taxes by making government more efficient but also brings standards
back to the public schools at the same time, we're
actually going to be able to achieve more while taxing
people less. And that's the way I think we take
our state to the next level.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
And during COVID, this wasn't the Dark Age as I
recall it specifically. In fact, I was the des United
survivor that would live under a pod at the transmitter.
By the Trump administration in twenty twenty, which is another issue,
but the great majority of public schools in the Cincinni
area were open. Only CPS and others were closed because

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I know Dr Park Schools schools in northern Kentucky, Indiana,
they were largely open after the first week or two
and they did remote learning, but they kept it going
with CPS shut down. Now, on the issue of making
government efficient, one of your cohorts if you are elected
and if you can't beat Amy acting, I'd be in
a state of shock and disbelief.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
I could.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
She's not going to be the nominee. They're tricking us
with her. But at some point you're going to head
up state government. Tim Waltz, your friend from Minnesota has
a one point one billion dollar massive fraud in which
largely immigrants from Africa, et cetera. Somali's have ripped off
the system with welfare and food stamps and sectioned in

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housing vouchers and medicaid and autistics support, etc. And sent
the money to war lords in Somalia. Can you guarantee
that won't happen here?

Speaker 4 (07:37):
That's got me fired up just thinking about our tax
dollars doing that kind of crap.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I can guarantee you won't happen here, And I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I don't think Kim wall is going to call me
a friend of his, because we're going to set an
example of what good governance looks like. If Minnesota and
California headed one model, Ohio is leading the way in
what actual meritocracy looks like, actual stewardship of taxpayer dollars
looks like.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
The reason property.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Taxes are so high in the state is not because
the government is delivering high ROI services with every one
of those dollars. It's because a lot of those dollars
aren't optimally used. And you look at those case studies
of what's happening in Minnesota, Let's take that as a
case study for what we want.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
To get right here in Ohio.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
And I want to be clear, We're already doing so
much better than Minnesota. We're already arguably the best in
the Midwest in many metrics. I want us to be
the top state in the country, though, Bill, that's not
good enough to be the best in the Midwest. I
want Ohio to set the example that Texas and Florida
can follow, rather than the other way around.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
And that's why I'm in this West.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Virginia had two National guardsmen shot the murderer from the
state of Washington, sought out I would think a female,
and shot her in the back of the head like
a yellow belly coward, then stood over and shot her again.
And I talked to Governor Mike DeWine a few days
ago on the air about Ohio National guardsmen in Washington, DC,

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and has extended they're run there till the end of January.
Do you have a problem with that.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
No, I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
But to the contrary, I do have a problem with
rampant violence in the cities across this country and the
normalization of the culture of violence, and that has to end.
At the end of the day, we are a people
who are united by peace. You should be able to
walk around in the city of Cincinnati or Washington, d C.
Without fear of looking over your shoulder for figging assaulted
or mud. President Trump has cleaned up Washington, d C.

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Which is, by the way, the constitutional prerogative of the
President of the United States. But to see a National guardsman,
two of them shot on Thanksgiving week is heinous. It's unconscionable,
it's Unamerican, and our hearts go out to that family,
both those families. They're in our neighboring state of West Virginia.
I thought Governor Patrick morrisy did a good job of

(09:50):
at least leading and offering the kind words that the
nation needed to hear. But now we need actions that
speak louder than words. We need accountability to make sure
that this kind of culture sure of violence ends in
the cities across our country. And that's part of the
attitude I want to bring to Ohio where violent crime
is up in many of our cities. We're a state

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of great cities, and yet we need to empower our
police to be able to do their jobs while.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Also making sure that these.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Criminals, repeat violent offenders are not getting out on no
to minimal bail, which is what's happening today. So those
are common sense reforms that eighty ninety percent of Ohioans
agree on.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's not too much to ask that you should be
able to go for a walk on Vine Street or
in over the Rhine in Cincinnati without fear of getting
mugged or assaulted. And yet this is where our national
culture is headed. And I want Ohio to be that
shining city on a hill. So we're talking about the
City of Seven Hills. Let's be the shining city on
a hill for the rest of the country to look
up to. And I think these are common sense reforms

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We're going to be able to deliver when I'm governor.
The state dollars aren't just going to automatically flow to
cities without accountability. Those dollars come with strings attached. Those
includes standards, standards for our public schools, standards for public safety.
This is what Ohioans want and it's what I'm going
to deliver.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
The Privy Bar, I'm not sure you've ever been there.
It's fifteenth in elm an otr has had seven people
shot in the month of November. Seven people wounded outside
the Privy Bar. They've had eighty two police runs outside
the Privy Bar, and because of the activities of city council,

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they've not shut it down. And the reason is racial reasons.
The African American Chamber of Commerce have meetings there. Other
black groups get together at the Privy Bar. But after
ten o'clock at night, all hell breaks lose. It looks
like gun smoke with Miss Kitty and the Long Branch,
and there's gun fire constantly and the city I went
there Saturday afternoon, not at night, with my wife, the

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people's judge, and we sat there. Now there's three police
cars out in front of the Privy Bar. I think
there's better use for those three police cars and simply
sitting in front of a bar at three o'clock in
the afternoon, So we talk about crime. Vivek Ramaswami the
three Great American cities Los Angeles, Chicago, New York are
in complete collapse. And I worry about downtown Cincinnati, Columbus

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and Cleveland. The Cleveland Browns are leaving downtown Cleveland out
to the suburbs, and three or four other American cities
are like dying because of crime and lack of business investment.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
As the governor, what can you do to.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Revitalize the major cities in Ohio control by the Democratic Party?
And whatever you say, they're going to oppose whatever they
want to do. You might not want to do it
because it's the wrong approach. Can we be a great
state when our cities are in collapse? You can't send
your kid to the public schools and the Privy bar
has shootouts almost every night? How does that work? How

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can you be the governor of a great state with
great cities when the cities and the education is in
complete collapse?

Speaker 4 (13:00):
How do you do that? For Bake?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
We got to turn it around. Yeah, that's the answer.
We got to turn it around with actual strong leadership.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's the only option we have. And you know what,
we are a state of great cities. You look at
other Peter states like Georgia, they've got one great city
like Atlanta, We've got Cincinnati, Dayton, Toledo, Cleveland, Columbus, Youngstown, Akron.
This is one of Ohio's great strength, and yet we're
squandering it because of urban crime. Now, as I said,

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we're doing better than states like Minnesota. I'm proud we're
headed in the right direction in so many metrics, but
urban crime is one of those areas where within six
months of me getting into office, we're going to have results.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
People are going to feel safe walking around in their city.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
People are going to safe opening their businesses in the city,
which is an economic development opportunity as well. What do
you do you think about I don't believe the police officers.
I haven't met many of those police officers, including the
men and women blue in Cincinnati. They're doing their jobs
and their best, but we're not tracting as many people
as we need to right profession we need to also
make sure that they're empowered to do their job. This

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attempt to strip them from qualified immunity, I think is
a mistake, and that's part of why we see a
recruiting failure on the front end, and then you have
the judges on the back end.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
A lot of these activist judges that.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Are completely deviating from guidelines where you have repeat offenders
on a repeated basis, committing violent crimes sent right back
out on the street on minimal to no bail to
go out and do it again. So our police officers
actually doing I think broadly, they're heroes, they're mental women
doing a great job. But the system isn't working the
way that it needs to to bring that level of

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crime down. And you talk about racial dimension, I'll say
a racial dimension. It's mostly black deaths that we're talking
about that go ignored. So this isn't about black versus white.
This is about right versus wrong. And I believe that
for many of those inner city African Americans, they're going
to be far, far, far better off. I think all
of them are going to be better off when I'm
the governor of this state, rather than what I think

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would be a nightmare a disaster.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
The woman who had no.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Compunction about shutting down our entire economy in our public schools.
By the way, the shutdown of those public schools led
to conic aps andeism, that connic aaps and teiasm now
leads to chronic violence. That's the woman who I'm running against.
That's amy acting, and so I could think of no
greater disaster to send our state in the direction of
Tim Wallas's Minnesota, or worse, if she came anywhere near
the levers of power again.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
But we're not going to let that happen.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
And it's why I want to I want conservatives and
really independence and anybody who loves this state to hear
this loud and clear.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Twenty twenty six. We can't take it for granted.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Complacency is not an option, and so we need to
get on the ground today to make sure we're in
a position not just to talk, but to lead with action.
And that's why I'm in this, and frankly, that's why
we're counting on everybody to really show up next year,
to show up in the meantime with our with grassroots organizations,
with getting people registered to vote, to even convert and

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open minds in the inner city that has historically gone
Democrat that have been failed by those failed left wing policies.
There's a better way forward, and that's why I'm in this,
and I'm confident we're going to deliver, not just for Cincinnati,
but for great cities across the state.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
About minute remaining.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
And I still don't believe Amy Acton and she's kind
of a joke. I can't believe they're going to pull
this one on us. They'll switch her out at some point.
But turning point USA tonight, the messenger was murdered in
cold blood. Does the message remain with your friend that
the man who really Charlie Kirk, that was more responsible

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for Trump's victory in twenty four than anyone else. I
think Charlie Kirk Erica were fabulous. Does the message remain
without the messenger?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
It has to?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Okay, Well, I believe whatever is necessary is possible. My friend,
so Charlie, I saw him two weeks before he was
killed here in Ohio. Actually we sat one on one.
We had a conversation where he asked me to continue
doing these things and he always did that, and I
didn't really take it any more seriously.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
But in retrospect, that was the last time I saw them.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
So I'm keeping my word to do our part to
reach those young people, to keep them energized, to give
them the permission to speak freely and think independently. And
it's not about right versus left, it's about actually just
learning in this case from hearing opposing views on a
college campus. Something as recently as three or four years
ago wasn't happening. Now we're seeing that revival amongst young people.

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I think it's positive, and frankly, I want to see
more of those young people think independently because it's going
to make our country united in the next generation. Nobody
wants this artificial politics of division that comes from the
culture of censorship. And so what we're doing tonight is
I'm going to give a few remarks that you see,
but we're also just going to open it up for
a lot of those young people to be able to

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ask the questions that are on their mind.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Some of them may.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Disagree with me from the left, maybe even some other
from even some aspects.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Of the right. I don't care what it is.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
We're going to have an open conversation, do it in
a civil way, and that's part of the culture I
want to bring back to our state. That was the
Cincinnati that I grew up in through the late eighties,
through the early nineties and early two thousands. Billy, I remember,
that was the Ohio that we knew, and I want
to bring that back to our state. And you know,
we're doing a small part tonight in Cincinnati, U see,

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and then we're going to Miami University later in the week.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
And that's the way we lead.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Well, take the best and make it better.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Viveke Ramaswami, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show
and give my best to all your folks.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Your website is.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
It is Vivic for Ohio dot com.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
All right, thank you Forveke. Good luck to you, God
bless you. Let's continue with me.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
And of course, despite the protestations of a veg Ramaswami,
Amy Acton will not be the Democratic nominee. Even Democrats
are not that stupid. News Next, that's your home of
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Speaker 4 (18:54):
Wow. Here we go.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Another afternoon of broadcast suprevity and coming up after one
o'clock will be the Great Moegger. Not just about the
Bengals and the Bearcats and the Crosstown shootout. We have
Andy Mack in the studio and won thirty five today
to talk about the Crosstown shootout. This weekend going to
be wonderful. It looked as if there would be a
walkover for uc Now looks like it might be a

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walkover for Xavier. We'll see what happens. Plus later on
we have Steve Gooden, and as you may know, he
lives in Cincinnati, ran for council, but in his real
life he's an attorney and spent time in the Judge
Advocates Corps and spent time at teaching classes on the
Geneva Convention to lawyers in the military, so that guy
knows where the bodies are buried. The media is all

(19:39):
in turmoil now about what happens to some small fishing
boats off the Venezuelan coast that allegedly we're carrying cocaine
and drugs that were blown up. And it appears, according
to a media account denied by the way by Donald
Trump and by Pete Heseth, Secretary of War, that there
were some survivors on a raft connected to the drug

(20:01):
boat that hex Seth ordered to be executed. Other countries
do that, but we do not. If assuming they're not
enemy combatants, assuming they're not able to return fire or whatever,
then they're like prisoners of whatever, prisoners of war, or
we don't kill even enemy combatants if they if they

(20:24):
surrender and cannot defend themselves. Other countries do that all
the time, but not the United States of America. So
both have denied it, and Republicans and Democrats are united
in the idea that we don't kill enemy combatants who
are surrendering are not able to resist. We don't shoot
people in the back of the head. We don't do that.

(20:44):
So we'll see what happens down the road on that.
This is a long line of Democrats in the mainstream
media trying to hook something around Trump's neck, whether it's
the Russia gate, or the Hunter and Biden laptop, or
Arctic US, whatever it might be. It's always looking for
some angle, some angle to make Donald Trump look like

(21:05):
a criminal and worse and courting the Senator Kelly and others.
He were among those who said that war crimes have
been committed and that you should say no to the
military to an unlawful order. As an order is given,
you normally don't have a lot of time to reflect upon.
The order is simply you react and do it. If
you can't do it, I guess you could be a

(21:27):
conscientious objector, or you could say, look I'm not going
to follow that order. But then your court martial for
not following the order.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
And so what this.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Means is that someone operating and F sixteen or whatever
might be called upon to fire upon drug boats determined
by the CIA and by all kinds of surveillance regimes.
The idea that boat is filled with cocaine, those involved
are poisoning the American people, Let's take them out, which
is something about seventy five percent of the American people say,

(21:58):
let's do that. That's a good idea, yea. And whether
there're survivors or not. Pete Hexseth denies it. Trump denies it.
There's going to be hearings in a way we go
and once again the Democratic narrative about Pete Hecseth, which
by the way, he denies the Washington Post story that
two anonymous sources say that his instructions were to kill

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all the drug dealers in some unspecified in legal manner.
And they have to put aside for a moment the
illegal and the good. It's good to kill drug dealers
that are hauling poison to our shores, that kill one
hundred thousand Americans every year. But this is a hearsay
claim of a couple individuals. We don't have the courage

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to identify themselves. They won't come out and say, yes,
I know this happened. This is my name, I work
in the Secretary of War's office. This is what we did.
And the regime media and the Democratic complex instantly accepted
as truthful the anonymous slanders as gospel truth. They said, absolutely,
that fits what Pete heck' sa eth or Donald Trump

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or Jade Vance would do. And anonymous claims from anonymous
sources are the best claims because you can't defend against them.
So the media loves that, which is exactly what the
media and what the Democratic Party wants. Is our part
of the okie doke that they play on a regular basis.
So we'll see what happens down the road. If someone

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fired upon combatants unable to defend themselves and killed them,
that's a problem. And Pete Heck says said he didn't
order it. Did some naval aviator do it?

Speaker 4 (23:35):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
But now the country is going to be twisting the
pretzel like conditions because of concern for the lives of
cocaine drug dealers somewhere floating in the Caribbean. It's amazing
to me how the media and the Democratic Party are
exactly on the same page. They march in lockstep, and

(23:57):
the key component of the scams is out. One of
the sources said, that's what happened. So that's one thing. Secondly,
I think most American families might include it. Likely yours
has been touched by mental illness to one degree or another.
It is a special burden that many parents carry and

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many considered a blessing to have an autistic child. And
from the day they're born until the day they die,
you love them with all your heart. And the circumstances
of autism, the causes of it, it might be tailand
all talan All denies it. I don't know. I'm not
confronted with the issue. If I if I ever get pregnant,
I'll get into the issue and determine what I should do.

(24:41):
Take Talano or not? Does it cause more autism than not?
Used to be one in about fifteen hundred babies Aid autism.
Now it's down to one and twenty nine. So something's
going on.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
And so.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I stand with the president on policy. Can I say enough? Drew,
my producer jujour policy policy policy. I support the policies
of Donald Trump and the policies of jade Vans. The
policies are a matter, not the words around the policies.
So it came out over the last couple of days

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and again last night on Air Force One in which
the President flew from Palm Beach back to Washington, whether
or not it was proper for the President to use
the R word, and I'll put it in parentheses. Retarded.
Put that in parentheses. It's a word I do not
use in my personal life. And he said that Tim
Waltz was quote retarded quote unquote because of giving billions

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of dollars to Somali's that somehow the billions of dollars
make their way to Somaliland that are being used one
way or another to ferment revolution and terrorism in Somalia.
There's about one hundred thousand Somalians. That our words should
be out of the American dictionary. It should not be
used and polite company to describe anybody because it demeans

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the person identifies that child as somehow part of the other.
And I've had mental illness in my family. I think
every family directly or in directly has been affected by it,
and I have the President of the United States use
the R word to describe Governor Tim Waltz handing out
billions of dollars in Somali's I think is disgusting.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
So he was asked last night.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
And whether or not he wanted to revise and extend
his remarks and that Donald Trump said no. Essentially, he
said last night, yeah, I think something's wrong with him.
Do you have a problem with that. The reporter said, well, sir,
it's the use of the I don't want to use
that word again, the use of the R word to
describe Governor Tim Walls. And then he got on the

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billions and billions of dollars. Maybe it's an age thing.
I's almost eighty years old.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
But you can't teach an old dog new tricks. There
are word is not a word I've used in my
private life, personal life.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
I don't do that.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
It demeans and for those moms and dads who love
deeply their children and work to make sure that their
kid have all the opportunities available to other kids. The
best of America is reflected when we take kids with
special needs and do everything in our power to give
them the best life that they can. So when the
President uses the R word or says other things, calling

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a reporter piggy because she was somewhat overweight, to demean
and put someone down and that way, it's again off track.
And what it does is cause individuals who would otherwise
support the president's policies. Can I say the policy is
what I support? Can I say policy more often I'm
saying policy and stay out of the personal insults, because,

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for example, in the state of Indiana, they're going through
the woes of whether or not to Jerry Manner out
one more Democratic seat, and one of the key members
of the Indiana States Senate has a child who has autism,
and he got so mad at the president and he
voted for him, supported him, raised money for him, and

(28:16):
donated money to Trump that he says, I'm done working
with the guy.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
I'm done.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
We're not going to have reapportionment in the state of Indiana.
And he may want to reconsider that and say a
prayer that Donald Trump quits using that kind of foul
language described generally innocent, innocent boys and girls who need help.
They don't need to be called names by the president
of the United States.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Can I say that anymore clearly?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Can I say I support the policy, the policy and
the policy. But to call a female reporter mims piggy,
or to say that a governor is using the R
word to describe his policy difference. That means the office
of the presidency, and it separates from Donald Trump his supporters.
I've had more than one attorney get a hold of me,

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friends of mine who have autistic kids that are so
mad they can't see straight, And I get it.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
It's wrong. He shouldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
When given an opportunity last night on Air Force one
flying back to DC, the President was given that opportunity
to say, well, you know, I disagree with the policy,
but my use of that word was wrong, and I apologize.
And I can't read exactly what the President said because

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he again use the R word to describe Governor Tim Waltz,
who's clearly not autistic and clearly not he's got a
terrible mind when it comes to politics. But to demean
him in such a way to me is a bad idea.
It's wrong. So I would hope that those close to
the president would saddle up next to him and say,

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mister President, stay on the policies and get rid of
the personal insults because it is separating you from your
own supporters. Made myself clear on that policy policy. What
is the policy? To call someone the R word? To
me is disgusting and it's wrong. And I hope the

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President will revise and extend his remarks and never ever
ever use it again and get on with the policies,
different disagreements, without the insults that demeans the office and
separates his supporters from him.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Huh so, I hope that's the case. Thirdly, we have
the issue which is coming up with MOE of year
round school. You just heard the governor to be vivek Ramaswami,
and I continue to believe there's no way the Democratic
Party me so stupid as to put up Amy acting.

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If she was a new character on the political scene,
you could say, okay, who is Amy acting? Well, damn it,
we know exactly who Amy acting is. She was the
one that shut down the schools. She had a procedures
ready to go that would shut down interstate and state highways,
shut down the businesses, but keep open the strip clubs,

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the liquor joints, but shut down so many other businesses.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
She was the grand architect.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Of the closing of our schools and the closing of
our society. Held those stupid news conferences in which she
put her arms around ohioans. And if that's the case,
the Democratic Party is in more trouble than I think.
There ought to be someone to confront for veg Ramaswami
on some of his ideas, and he's got more ideas

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than you can count. One bad idea I think is
year round schooling. And some of the best times in
my life was raising my son and coaching his teams,
basketball and baseball teams, interacting with all of his friends, sleepovers,
taking off ten or eleven weeks in the summertime when
it's June, July and August it's about ninety five degrees,

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and let a kid be a kid, get out there.
I guess the excuse is so many school districts are
bad when it comes to academic performance. So if some
kid at Tapped High School can't read, and it's a
sixteen year old, that means that you at Mason High
School are going to have to have your kid and
school year round. It doesn't work. That way in the
Sinse summer school used to be for those failing classes.

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Now some say, and there's one of two states that
are going to implement it year round school in which
part time, maybe in mornings, you're in school, to take
a couple of weeks off and then get back to school.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I think it's stupid.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
They have school opening around August the twentieth, and that
should be Tuesday Wednesday after Labor Day. Things are a
little bit cooler. Summer is over. We keep chopping into
a kid's vacation. Let a kid be a kid, go
on vacation, plays, do special things, go on long hikes,
camp out, go on a family trip out to Utah.

(33:05):
Look at the magnificence of the outback in and around Ogden, Utah.
It's beautiful. Go to the North and South Dakota wonderful,
spend time together. And because other school districts fail, that
doesn't mean that you have to be punished. And so
I'm gonna work with VeVe Gramaswami to get the teachers

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more money and they need it, more incentives to enter
into teaching, and more money spend in urban districts to
bring up the performance of kids that need help because
they have dysfunctional homes in which they live. There's five
thousand kids at CPS that are homeless. There's five thousand
more kids English is the second language that can't participate

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in school. We got major problems. Forty five forty six
percent are chronically absent. We got major problems. They're not
solved by telling the kids in Ohio we're going to
cut out your summer vacation because other school districts can't
do their job and kids lose too much over the summertime.
The argument is a school ends maybe a week before

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Memorial Day. By the time school resumes ten days before
Labor Day, you've lost everything out of your head. It's
drained out. Well, parents, we did this. I assume you
did this June, July and August. Have a reading list
of five books that your kids got to read over
that maybe a book a week, and then talk about it.
If a kid is sufficient in math or whatever, gets

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special classes for him, but don't require that. Deer Park
Community Schools, which by the way, is one of the
best in the tri state top ten, and the counter
now on and the leadership of Jim Stall and Chris
Euster that somehow Deer Park Community School has got to
be punished for its success. No, no, no, no, let's continue.

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After one o'clock today will be the Great Moager to
talk about the Bengals and so much more. And also
after two o'clock today will be Steve Gooden breaking down
what are legal and illegal orders, what is the genie
of a convention, how does apply etc.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
And we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
But, mister President, policy, policy, policy, then, and on top
of that policy, do not call anybody the R word
because you disagree with a policy. It means a whole
bunch of moms and dads struggling with kids with special needs.
Even those who support you feel separated from you. And
that may cost the Indiana congressional seat because unwisely a

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state senator in Indiana has an autistic child and he's
mad at you now and won't vote for the reapportionment.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Now, that's stupid.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
But nonetheless, people react emotionally when you attack their children,
mister President, and don't do that.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Now.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Let's continue.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Twelve fifty five The Home of Your Bengals, News Radio
seven hundred WW build Hunting in the Great American White
Belt is coming later tonight and tomorrow, so we'll see
what happens with that. But until then, so much happening
in sports athletics, A good and bad going to you

(36:10):
and on als Moeiger and Moeiger. First of all, I
need some psychotherapy. If you're ready, let's do it. Put
me on the couch. I'm looking at the Bengals game
in Baltimore on Thursday night. I'm seeing a Super Bowl team.
I'm seeing a defense that're causing five turnovers. I'm watching
Joe Burrow left and right and short, and I'm watching

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a hundred yard rusher.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
I'm watching Moneymack.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
He's cashing checks for a million dollars, five or six
field goals right down the middle, fifty yards, fifty six,
sixty four yards, ten yards, whatever it is. I'm watching
a team thrashing Lamar Jackson, not Michael Jackson, but Lamar Jackson,
thrashing him all around Baltimore Stadium. And I get depressed.
And I get depressed because I'm saying, where were these

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guys during the losing when they won one game with
Joe Flacco lost all the other games. So far, Joe
Burrow has played two and a half games this year.
Here it is December, and they won both two and
a half games. He's played the second game. Of course,
we had Browning coming in. Nonetheless, he won. They won
the game, and so I'm depressed because I think of

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all the things that might have been. I saw a
Bengals team to look like Joe's second or third season
instead of sixties. And you understand what I'm saying that
I get depressed when they win, and I get depressed
when they don't win.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
I'm just depressed. Can you give me some help? Can
you give me some lithium?

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Can you give me.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Some prescriptive drugs? What do I need to get me
out of my funk? I don't like to listen to
him when they win. I don't like to listen to
him when they lose. I get angry. Can you know
when you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 6 (37:45):
I know what you're saying. Here's the prescription. I would
tell you to study the current plight of the two
teams in front of the Bengals in the AFC North,
because I'm not sure I trust either of those teams. Now, look,
here's the basic mass of this.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
Right.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
The Bengals are two games behind, two teams. So they've got,
in essence, lead frog two teams with five games to go,
and they trail both by two. And that's not going
to change this weekend because even at the Bengals go
to Buffalo and win, Baltimore and Pittsburgh play against each other,
so the defeston will still be two games with four
to go a week from today. But let's talk about

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the Baltimore Ravens for a second. Did you see an
MVP caliber quarterback playing for them on Thursday night?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
The answer to that would be absolutely no, Hell no.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Lamart Lamar Jackson has been an awesome player in this
league for a while now, he hasn't played awesome this year.
Doesn't look one hundred percent. I have no idea why
they only gave Derek Henry the football ten times in
that game, five in the first half. They have been
offensively very uneven for a long stretch of time. And
so let's look at this from a gambling perpective, because

(38:51):
I now you like to make a wager. Way, if
you want to invest in the Baltimore Ravens to win
the AFC North right now, the odds are minus two
to sixty.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
What are you investing in.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
You're investing in a team that offensively just hasn't hit
its stride for the last six seven weeks, that still
has a pretty tough schedule. They still have to play
the Steelers twice. They still have to play the Green
Bay Packers. They still have a game against the New
England Patriots. Baltimore Ravens are on shaky ground right now.

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They're just six and six. They have a game against
Cincinnati here, a team that they just lost. To talk
about the Pittsburgh Steelers also just six and six. They've
coalked away a four and one start. Offensively, they look disjointed.
Aaron Rodgers is old and injured, like legitimately injured. Defensively,
they spend a lot of money on that defense. It

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has failed when presented with opportunities to win games time
and again.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
T J.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Watt gets to the quarterback very infrequently for a player
of his stature and for what they're paying them. So
the Pittsburgh Steeler are six and six odds to win
the AFC North plus two sixty. Does that look like
a team that anybody would be really excited about investing in.
Simpers still has the Dolphins at home Miami is playing
pretty well. They have to go to Detroit. They do

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have a game in Cleveland against the Browns, and they
have a return match against the Baltimore Ravens. Again, the
math for the Bengals isn't great, but here's what is good.
They're seventeen and five in December and January games in
the regular season since twenty twenty one. If you take
away twenty twenty one when they made the Super Bowl,
guess what, they're even better fourteen and two. They've won

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fourteen of their last sixteen December and January regular season games.
That includes a three game winning streak with Jake Brown. Now,
they also have a track record against the Buffalo Bills.
It's limited, but it's excellent. Joe Burrow plays great against Buffalo.
This team is usually really good down the stretch. They're
probably gonna be favored in for their last five. Again,

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I get it, matth. The odds are not in their favor,
which is why you could buy the Bengals win the
AFC North at plus nine hundred. But I don't know
why anybody would look at Baltimore and feel like that
they're gonna salt this thing away. Here in the next
couple of weeks. And I feel the same way about
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Cincinnati is three and one in the division.
They're gonna get another crack at the Ravens here. I

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think there's hope. They have Joe Burrow back. They should
get T Higgins back this week. Offensively, they're pretty damn healthy,
and while I am skeptical that the defense has turned
the corner, they certainly have shown some signs, some positive
signs over the last couple of games. I think if
you look at this division, the door is open. Pittsburgh
had a chance to run away with it, couldn't. Baltimore

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had a chance to put the Bengals away, couldn't. And
so the door might not be wide open, but it's
at least a jar. And I think they're interesting here
as we get set to watch the Bengals play the
Bills on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
And the Steel Curtain just gave up two hundred and
forty nine yards rushing in Pittsburgh undred forty nine yards rushing,
which is almost impossible.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Somebody's got to win. Why do you like it or not?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Ravens look terrible, Pittsburgh looks worse. Bengals are a rising
someone has to win and likely Bengals had the tiebreaker,
correct if they if they went out, If they went out,
they're gonna win the division?

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Correct.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
You know, I feel pretty good about that because they
will have as they went out. And again, that is
a major if you're asking a team that has been
defensively one of the worst in history to win six
consecutive games. But if they do that, they'll have a
five to one record against the AC North. They'll have
two head to head wins against the Baltimore Ravens. I

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believe if they get to nine and eight, they win. Now,
can they go to Buffalo and win? Can they beat
the Ravens here? Can they avoid stubbing their toe on
the road against the Miami Dolphins. No. Answers are yes,
yes and yes yes. Then I'm not sure the last
two weeks it could be set up any easier for
them with a home game against the Cargo who are
not very good, in the home game against Cleveland Browns,
who are atrocious. Again, I understand the mathematics of this.

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You need Pittsburgh and Baltimore to split with each other.
You don't want one to beat the other. One twice,
but those two teams are five hundred for a reason.
It feels like both have kind of failed to put
the Bengals away. And Joe Burrow is back, my guess
is he's only going to get better. Zach Taylor does

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have a very good track record towards the end of
the season in the regular season. I think there's legitimate
reasons for hope BILLI I absolutely did.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
In the last three games, the Bengals defense have given
up twenty nineteen and fourteen points, which is like fifth
or sixth in the league. Something happened to the defense
without Trey Henderson. I don't understand the Bengals give up
twenty nineteen and fourteen points on average. They're giving up
seventeen points a game, and I like the Bengals chances
more than the other ones. Speaking of that, at the

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end of the season, you bring it up Scott sad Field,
and as I recall, last year, they were five and
two then collapsed with five consecutive losses.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
This year there's.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Seven and one and then they lose four straight and
I guess they're going to go to some bowl game
the day after Christmas. Nobody's gonna want to go to
that game. How come the Bengals go one direction at
the end of the season and the Paracuts go another.
Can you explain that one to the American people?

Speaker 6 (44:25):
Who's been worse in November? The Democrats in twenty twenty four,
the Republicans in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
For Scott Sadderfield.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I'm going with Scott Saderfield becaes that guy. I don't
know if the longer he coaches each season, the worse
the team gets.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Am I right? The more the more they're around him,
the more they lose. Have you noticed this or not?

Speaker 6 (44:48):
One and eleven in the month of November ten consecutive
November when November started with calendar flipped. When the calendar
flipped from October to November, the Bearcats were seven to
one and in the thick of the AFC or the
AFC the Big twelve title game race. When the month ended,

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four consecutive losses and while they are Bowl eligible, I
think number one a very similar feeling to last year,
where all the good vibes of the first half of
the season were kind of undone by just an avalanche
of like self inflicted mistakes over the last four games.
Four losses against good teams. The four teams they played

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are each going bowling. I think Utah is good BYU's
got a chance to play in the College Football Playoff,
but the Bearcats got in their own way way too often.
And I think the other thing that's troubling about it,
Bill is if you look at the roster, their best
players are all leaving, either because their college eligibility has
expired or they're going to jump to the NFL. And

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so I think there's a real sense of opportunity lost
here because when you have a roster like that where
a lot of the best players are going to you're
supposed to do more than just win seven games while
you have those guys and you know, yes, we have
the transfer portal and nil and you can turn things
around pretty quickly. But I think there's a lot of
uncertainty with the composition of the roster next season.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
I certainly don't.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
Think Scott Satterfield is going to be fired, and I
do think relative to where things were when he took over,
it's it's a it's to his credit that this team
has become more competitive in the Big twelve, but I
think it's very fair to wonder can this guy get
them over the hump, especially when he has performed as

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poorly or his teams have performed as poorly in the
month of November. That has come to define this program
under Scott Saderfield, right, not necessarily that they always get
off the strong starts, because the team two years ago
or three years ago only won three games, but the
last two years they were in a position to at
least contend for a Big twelve championship, and in both
cases they failed by not winning a game at all

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in the month of November. And I don't know what
the answer for that to change is going to be.
And if it doesn't change next year, my guess is
we are talking about something that we're not talking about
right now, which is the University of Cincinnati looking at
a replacement.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
You may not know it, Mo, but one and eleven
is not good. In fact, you know that's about nine
percent of wins, and the faithful don't like that. We
have Andy Mack coming up in about fifteen minutes to
break down the Crosstown shootout. Later this week. It's going
to be Miller time. It's going to be Patino time.
You see, it's going in one direction. You had some
tweets or x accounts about how bad the bear Cuts

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were the first half of the last game. They were awful.
They were terrible. They had more turnovers than baskets made.
Xavier's go in the opposite direction break down the Crosstown
shootout mo.

Speaker 6 (47:48):
Well. I think it has to get Rich of Patino's
team a lot of credit because three weeks ago when
they were run off the floor by Santa Clara, a
lot of folks talk at the skyline Chili Crosstown shootout
the result was going to be inevitable, and I think
as much as a lot of people didn't want to
hear it at the time, they showed some signs in
that loss to Iowa. Played very well in their MTE

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with Georgia and West Virginia. They have shot the ball better,
They run good stuff offensively. I think the Bearcats are
still looking for an identity. It will help if they
have Boba Miller back, who is clearly their best player.
Left the Louisville game in the second half, hasn't played since.
We'll see if he goes tonight without him, who's going

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to carry the load offensively, Who's gonna get tough buckets
in the tough arena. Who's gonna get buckets when the
Bearcats are trailing in the second half by four and
they need a basket. Who's going to keep the other
team from going on an eight to ten point run.
Who's going to help them get defensive stops? There are
still it's very early December. First, there's still lots of

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unknowns about this team. And while I think the ceiling
for the Musketeers is low, it's not an overly talented team.
You can see guys I think kind of evolving into
specific roles. I don't think that's happened with the Bearcats yet,
and so it's going to be interesting. Look, Cincinnati hasn't
wonted the Centa Center in twenty four years. I think

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there's a real sense of if not this year one,
are you going to do it now? We said the
same thing two years ago Xavier won that game. I
think the noise is going to be awfully allowed and
the conversations are going to be really interesting if the
Bearcats don't win this one this year. But I think

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this game has gone from one that felt like, you
know what, the Bearcats are very likely to win to
one that I think is closer to a fifty to
fifty game, and that's not something that I think fans
of either team would have entertained three weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Lastly, I had on the governor to be viveg Ramaswami
from Sandex High School, and he talked about year round schooling.
It's not a policy prescription yet, he says, he's talking
to parents and educators and teachers around the state. As
the father of a little girl, what is your sense
of year round schooling? Mo, if you were sitting here

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with Avake Ramaswami. I love saying his name because I
can that. What would you say to avike rama Swami
about year round schooling for your daughter?

Speaker 6 (50:21):
If you want me to vote for you, then stop
talking about year round school Why my kid's not going
to school year round? Okay, let's not rob our kids
of summers. Like spending the summer with my kid. I
do everything I can to make sure she's ready to
go when the school year starts in August, which, by
the way, the school year is starting in early August

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is stupid. If he really wants my vote, what he'll
say is not only are we not going to have
year round school. We're not going to send the kids
back to school until after Labor Day.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Correct, No, nobody.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
The teachers don't want to do it. Have a hard
enough time retaining teachers as is. Now, let's take away
the one character would make anybody want a tea each,
which is you get ten weeks off. Let's rob these
kids up their summers. No, summer is a time for family.
It's a time for extracurricular activities. It's a time for
learning things that you don't necessarily learn in the classroom. No.

(51:13):
If if mister Ramaswami wants me to vote for him,
then what he'll do is publicly, perhaps on your show,
renounce his position that we're gonna have a year round school.
This is the problem with adults. Adul't forget how cool
it is to.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Be a kid.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Why is it cool to be a kid because you
get ten freaking weeks off during the summertime. Do not
take that away, dude, My kid is not going to school.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
You could send a.

Speaker 6 (51:36):
Truant officer to my house. I'll homeschooler if I have to.
She is not sitting in a classroom in the middle
of July when it's one hundred and five degrees out
and pools are open. That ain't happening. So tell your
boy he wants me to go to the ballot box
and vote for him and not Amy acton. Oh, he
probably still wants to put a mask in my kid. Yeah,
you tell your boy he wants me to go to

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the ballot box and vote for him, get rid of
this year around school conjecture and talk about doing something
that actually can help people.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Well, Mo, I'm with you on this one one hundred percent,
because the summertime with my son was the best time,
coaching and traveling and doing things together as a family.
His argument is, too many kids fall behind in the summertime.
They leave as third and fourth graders able to read,
They come back two weeks in the middle of August,
they can't read. They don't show up. Good parents don't

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need it. Bad parents do. But I just think the
solution to the education crisis and urban areas is not
year round schooling, because it'd be more true and see
than there is today. Right now, forty five percent of
kids in cps are chronically absent anyway, and if it
was summertime, that would be ninety five percent, would be
chronically absent, so I will work with him to earn

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your vote.

Speaker 6 (52:50):
Mo how about that, Well, that number is going to
be one hundred percent of my house because we're not
wrapping around the fourth of July holiday a bunch of
homework where you got to get to school after the
fourth of July holiday?

Speaker 4 (53:03):
No, no, no, no, no no. I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
A thousand plus teachers, underpaid, underappreciated, and overworked.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
The last thing they want to do is being schooled
twelve months a year, even if they're paying a little
bit of extra money. That's the good part about being
a teachers. You're off for ten weeks and then you
got the pension. If you put in thirty years of
hard labor, then you get a pension. But nonetheless, to me,
it's a good idea, but the implement implementation would be stupid,
all right, Moager.

Speaker 6 (53:33):
The Crocus idea, it's awful. And and by the way,
if we had the teachers go to school year round,
guess what more school levies to pay for it. That's
always a lot of fun. Tell your boy, okay, we
got a year. Tell your boy wants me to go
to the ballot box and vote for him. This is
the issue I care about my kid ain't going to
school year round.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
I'll pass it on mo.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I like the fire get You have passion when it
comes to a bak Ramaswami. Don't have passion about the
crossdown shootout. I have passionate about me angry when the
Bengals win. You don't have passionate about me thinking the
Red's are not going to go anywhere because of the
structure of Major League Baseball. Yeah, you don't have passionate
about about Lane Kiffin going to LSU, But you have

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passionate about your daughter not going to school in the
fourth of July.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
And I'm with you in that.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
Mo.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
I'm getting fired up, and I thank you very much,
Thank you, Moe.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
I got a lot of passion. I got a lot
of passionate about Lane Kiffin, idiotic that he thinks he
could still coach at LSU when he's gone to work
for a competitor. I got a lot of passion about
the Reds not Son and kyleis Warber, not because of
baseball's economics, but because they won't pay him. But yeah,
you're right. More than anything, I hate it when adults
take away the childhood of kids. I will not vote for.
I don't care what party you're from. I will not

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vote for a potential elected official who chooses to take
the childhood away from my daughter. Tell your boy got
a here, I'm telling him, come up with something else.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
I'm telling him. I'm telling him, O, I'm telling him,
thank you. Let's continue. Seven hundred wlwave you.

Speaker 7 (55:04):
Wins it the Musky's winning seventy one sixty nine and
is the usually pancatch my number one in the country,
Number two him around City seventy one sixty nine, winning
proud of the triple drive for the left wing.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Perry did inside the.

Speaker 7 (55:18):
Pre pro line Husky's winning seventy one sixty nine.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
Over U see incredible Number one goes down on their
on floor.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
Oh hello, hello, Pyot And I'm spoke.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
I'm broadcasting you.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Bony. Think we have Andy Mack in the studio with
us to night, Willie, because of the the action coming
up Friday night. Friday night, it's all going to be there.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
And it's been a quarter of a century since you
sees one at the Sintas Centers at correct mac quarter
of a century, Willie.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
Her grasp book history is right on point.

Speaker 8 (55:57):
It was two thousand and one, Huggs was the UC coach,
and Fat Mada in his first shootout as a Xavier
coach the only coach three of them then of Sconda
to Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
I'm scouted David West.

Speaker 8 (56:12):
Don't give me in this Xavior players sprained his ankle
early in the ballgame.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
It would have been a completely difficult It would have
wiped him out. You see, did what win by twenties
seventy five fifty five?

Speaker 1 (56:22):
They had a hell of a team. Yeah, but UC's
pretty good. But now they've gone on hard times. A
week or two ago, the UC faithful told me Moeinger said,
it's going to be a rough year for Xavier.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
In the sid TOAs center.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Now, you see, in the first half of the last
game they played, had more fouls than field goals made.
So you see is collapsing under the boot of Wes
Miller and now Xavier's a rising Give us a breakdown,
Mac on Friday night.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
What's going to happen and how that that loss by UC?

Speaker 8 (56:51):
The Eastern Michigan has not been a decent team since
their nickname was the Hurons, like fifteen years ago before.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Wolken has said hit. You can't be a year hon
or a chip Awa anymore.

Speaker 8 (57:00):
I think they're the Eagles now, you know, take five
talues to coach Eastern Michigan.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I didn't know that, or was it Detroit. I don't
remember a coach Detroit. I know the Detroit.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (57:10):
He had a bunch of really good players there. Yeah,
but he was a terrible coach. He was pretty brullial.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
We only had one high by the way, big.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
I thought he had two eyes. One was lazy and
one was aggressive. I think one is like totally it's gone.
He can't see. But break down the game, Mac, because
you're here, I mean, we want to hear what's going
to happen Friday night. Well, I've done my usual copious preparation.
I distilled a little bit because I seldom use any
of it when I'm here talking with you, Willie.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
But uh, you know, I've used AI and now to
analyze all the data. AI segment. You know what AI is,
Alan Iverson, That's it right there.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
AI.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
He had the ride in the mall in Virginia.

Speaker 8 (57:46):
I thought it was a one sauce a one, AI know,
a one, But Ken Palm has the great U uh
fount of all basketball statistics has now reversed his field.
As both probably referred to, it was Xavier down by
twelve early when we opened the season. They put the

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initial predictions on Ken Palm, Xavier was going to get
blown out out of the water. Now Ken Palm, it
just passed the fifty to fifty Xavier seventy two.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
U see seventy one, seventy seventy one xt Well, why
play the game?

Speaker 5 (58:21):
Then?

Speaker 8 (58:22):
As far as I'm concerned, we'll take a W and
we'll move on to the next.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
The much trouble is Wes Miller in I know you
care a lot about UC and I've heard Wes is
really a nice guy. Some friends of mine drink with
him at Pearls on Eastern Naw, everyone drinks with him.

Speaker 8 (58:37):
The strongest authorities I've ever heard him say is dang dang.
I think he needs to be a little more demonstrative
with his players.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Maybe, but he may. He may be in practice Dan,
but I think it.

Speaker 8 (58:45):
Would it would be it would be a good move
by Wes to get to the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
He's O for four now is he's not good? Not good?
Not good?

Speaker 8 (58:55):
And seeing that the Big twelve will have like eight
teams in out of fifteen.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Pretty good, does your mac.

Speaker 8 (59:00):
They got some some possibilities, but so it went over.
Xavier certainly would help West he's got one though, he's
got one. The bear Cat faithful he's got one win, right,
But that that was that was a problem last year.
I mean the officiating was terrible. Freemantle missed an open
three that would have sent.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
It the ot.

Speaker 8 (59:20):
We had him foul to Xavior Blue like a seven
point lead in the last final War. It's Freemantle doing
these days. Free Mattle is playing for the l A Clippers.
I believe at least he might be going up and
down from the G League.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
But he gotta need help. The Clippers need help, that's
for sure. And also breakdown if you can, Xavier, we're
gonna look forward to I know right now. Richard Patino
has the boys playing the best they've played, so kind
of breakdown Xavier for us.

Speaker 8 (59:46):
Well, Xavior's time pretty well lately, and O Patino had
nothing I'm the roster and not nothing, I mean nothing,
he had no play. Roddy Anderson, who was red shirted
last year, is a really fast point guard. That number
zero is coming off the bench now, but he's playing
like twenty four minutes a game. He's super fast. Zeroly
playing a lot zero Saviors got six pretty solid guys.

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They shoot the three really well. They're not turning the
ball over much. They melt their free throwsuc which is
shooting their usual sixty four percent.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Because the game sold out, I'm sure it is. Yeah,
and the students are still there. Thank god.

Speaker 8 (01:00:23):
They haven't had the exam kids, so they'll be I
sort of like I want it to be a bubbling
cauldron of hate right now directed toward I mean, I
like the bear.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Cat John Cunningham, I mean Wes Miller. Who's the hate for, well,
just in general, Geral my brother's John Cunningham.

Speaker 8 (01:00:41):
Really, I didn't know you were related. Yes, he's a
good dude. I've never thought like him. Was a nice fellow.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
He's got football problems, would you agree?

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Wow?

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
I mean they started so well, what they'd be, they
would have been like eight and oh, but they gave
away that Nebraska game too. I guess they couldn't figure
out that Nebraska was only a two hour drive from
Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
They couldn't get that figured. That means they couldn't fit,
but they took the three million.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
The other thing, I looked at the Zabiers. What about
the Xavier women's basketball team? They just lost by sixty
six points. How do you lose by sixty six points
to Connecticut?

Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
You know they haven't been Connecticut does the the cattle. Yeah,
but Xavier's got to be somewhat Competitorcket and you're talking
all these great stars, but Xavior women's basketball hasn't been
the same since that guy Chuck whatever his name is,
of Scott to Ohio State. Him and Melanie Falcon was
great and the Mark Healing, my good friend, was a terrific.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Who coaches Xavier basketball?

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Now do you know I sixty six points?

Speaker 8 (01:01:38):
You know the average that's a loss, say average about
thirty five turnovers a game.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Or something thirty five. They have more turnovers than points.
I don't want to get that like this.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
That's good. Don't get negative on the ladies. Just be factual. Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
That's bad enough. Say give me into the stud's report.
I went back to break Down Fire Mike Tomlin, get
into that. Plus Lane Kiffin make the Xavier to start
the basketball football program. Here you may maybe he's going
to be a teacher at the College of Ostia Panthic Medicine.
I'm told Lane Kiffin is going to come here. He's
looking for opportunities, isn't he always? Seventy five million dollars?

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Wouldn't you go for sure?

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
I mean everybody has a price, and it would be away.
What's your price? Seventy five mili from he what's your price?
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C Sports. Let's see willye college basketball tonight? Those Xavier
Musketeers are in action at the Centas Center taking on
Saint Francis. Saint Francis six point thirty seventy five krc
DE talk station.

Speaker 8 (01:02:50):
A one man ten Saint Francis of Pennsylvania, not a
sea in their same league. They have another Saint Francis
in New York. That's really very confusing when they play
each other. If they haven't any radio deals, how the
radio guy go Saint Francis sixty two Saint Francis six.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Sixty sixty two. Who wins Saint Francis? I don't know,
I guess those Saint Francis. And then the Cincinnati Bearcats
are at fifth third Arena tonight, Willy to take on
Tarleton State out of Texas?

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
The Texans are five and three, they've won three in
a row. They're coached by former Kentucky coach Billy Gillespie.

Speaker 9 (01:03:23):
Really who out ran Alan Cuttler the cumber the Cutman.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Remember ran that he ran the ran the Cutman into
the office that day. What about that? And mac cum
But Tarlton was like a cigarette brand. But say, are
they a school or are they like out of Texas? Willy,
but Saint Francis, how do you beat Saint Francis? Saint
Francis of ASSISI he was special, right, But Xavier scheduling

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school they can beat before the crossdown shootout.

Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
Well, Saint Francis of pa is the three fifty six
in the NATI sixty five not highly considered, you might say.
And actually they are defunding or decriminalizing to D three
next year.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
They're they're going lower. They're going lower.

Speaker 8 (01:04:09):
Yeah, but they've had some great players like Maurice Stokes
played there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
It's been about seventy years. Nor Van Leer was one
of their great about sixty years.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Sixty by, after all sixty years spent, being three hundred
and sixty five ranked is not low enough.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
They want to go lower. They want to go to
D four.

Speaker 8 (01:04:28):
They could go Naia or maybe Aau aau.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
That's a consider about the Villa. I've been there.

Speaker 8 (01:04:33):
They've been lost to that team. In nineteen ninety four,
in the middle of a blizzard, we get up there
and the team bus coming back from the shoot around
went into a snow drift. And Pete Gillen as the coach,
it's his final year. He goes, all right, all you
scholarship guys, stay on the bus. You walk ons and
Mark Smidra who went on to be a Marine Corps

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full bird colonel and did fingertip push ups at lunch
for like Cowers, they pushed the bus out, and Smith
is a hero. We had a point guard, Surewin Anderson,
who still lives here in Cincinnati, the sixth man. He's
a freshman. He forgot his gym shoes. He couldn't play, couldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Play, no shoes. He couldn't fire. There were no stores
within Saint Francis. It is not the name of the city.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
They're in Loretta, Loretta Pa. I used to dad a
woman named Loretta. That's a different story.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
She might have lived there. I don't know. They had
great line up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
This thing about having hair in her armpits that turned
me off. Would you agree?

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
It was a little It was a little rough up
in Loretta, a little rough.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
They didn't have razors she had. She was Harry instead
of Loretta. I called her Harry.

Speaker 8 (01:05:38):
That loss by Xavier cost him an ncaa bit because
they were so low in the RPI.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Because of Saint Francis, in the snow drift, players without
shoes and ugly women.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Please continue, Willie, let's see good luck to Anderson. Thursday,
they will take on the Avon for the Division Tuesday
championship in Canton. Who do you like there? Mac, I
will take the local team, you know, raptors.

Speaker 8 (01:06:02):
Anderson has managed their enrollments, so they're just in Division two.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
That too, they expelled kids. You get too close, they
expel a bunch of kids out. Get out of here. Saint
x we'll go up against old and tangy Orange Friday
for the Division one state champions Agent Orange. Who's no
Northern Kentucky teams playing for a state title for the
first time? What I could gather from first time since
nineteen seventy eight, no team from Boone, Kenton or Campbell

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County playing for a title. Beechwood got beat. So they're
playing Agent Orange. Who's sant X playing old and tangy Orange.
They're very good. That's a Columbus happen. What about that out?
They're out? They're out?

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Well, if Anderson gets too many kids, they kick out
twenty kids and stay in Division two.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Want to play X? Kentucky fired football coach Mark Stoops today.
How much money? Say five and seven season he's owed?
He had a contract through twenty thirty one remaining salary.
He is a thirty seven and a half Wallian dollars
for Kentucky football. Correct Mack your reaction.

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
They got nipped by Louisville forty one nothing, so that
that was the final nail.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
He's done a good job, done a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
He gets fired and lose the Louisville by six touchdakes
for I mean out the door.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
He's no who's going to hire him? Again are they?
I think Ryan Kella as Doug Flynn pay him out
of the Central Bank.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
He does.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Wow, Mick, we got to go. But thanks for coming
in to breakdown all the statistics.

Speaker 8 (01:07:30):
Musky's winning the seventy four to sixty nine the Andy
mac prediction. But I'm not terribly objective.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Write that down on seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
By Billy cunning in The Great American this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Of many of the talk shows, Senator Mark Kelly, others,
who are they are talking about possibly charging Pete heg
Seth or Donald Trump once he leaves office with murder
and war crimes. Actually incapability of running for reelection twenty
twenty eight is not enough. But the allegation the charges
might be murder Pete Heckseth, for example, and may be

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charged by a state, or by the Feds or by
the Geneva Convention on a war crime. And this has
to do with taking the lives and individuals involved in
the international drug cartel trade. And also seemingly there's an
allegation that a couple of the drug runners might have
lived and we're on a raft and that heck Seth
ordered their execution on a raft and Donald Trump was

(01:08:34):
asked that question a few days ago, he said it
didn't happen. Nonetheless, the allegation is tantamount to proof and
the views of the mainstream media. So let's get what
the what the framework is. Of course, Steve Gooden has
for those who may not know, as an attorney, he's
also been in the on the reserve for long periods
of time. He's also taught courses on the Geneva Convention

(01:08:56):
and Attorney Steve Gooden, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Of all, Steve, tell the American people your credentials when
it comes to this area, so we know of what
you speak.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
Well, Dave, my pleasure. God.

Speaker 10 (01:09:08):
So yeah, when I was on active duty as a
young captain in the JAG Corps during the Iraq War,
I was down at Fort Bragg with the eighteenthar One
Corps and I taught the rules of war law, rules
of engagement, Geneva Conventions to a lot of the deploying troops.
So you know, I've got some experience studying this, and

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I know that the rules of engagement can be kind
of difficult to discern, particularly for civilians or folks who've
never had to had to take a deep dive into that.
So happy, happy to share with you what I know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
All right, So Senator Kelly is making the allegation, which
of course is true. What they're all saying is is
black letter law. You don't have to follow an illegal order,
an unlawful order. In fact, you're required not to follow it.
But how do you know it's legal or illegal? How
do you know if someone for example, the drone strike
that Biden indirectly ordered on a family after the Cabbo

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massacre of our thirteen soldiers, he ordered a drone strike
that killed like twenty family members, including mainly women and children.
He said, oh, I'm sorry, it was a mistake, and
that wasn't a big deal at all. But when it
comes to two drug runners, in the media's perspective, it's
a big deal. So what is a legal order? What's unlawful?
During the fog of war? How do you know which

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is what?

Speaker 10 (01:10:25):
Well, first, let's have a moment of silence for the
drug runners. I mean, this is a human I'm kidding.
That's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
That Senator Kelly would like to have you understand that
a murder was committed, a war crime was committed, and
the victims were two cocaine drug runners out of Venezuela.
Let's have a second of silence. That's enough tell us
what the answer is.

Speaker 10 (01:10:48):
The answer is this, though it's like, it's actually a
lot more simple than Senator Kelly seems to want to
make it. I mean absolutely, a soldier, a marine, a
Navy officer, midshipman, whoever it might be, does have an
obligation not to follow an illegal order that is defined
typically as your superior officer tells you to do something

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like shoot a prisoner or something to that effect. You
have an obligation under the Geneva Convention to say no,
you know, that's not how I was taught, that's not
what we're going to do. But these big issues of policy,
you have no obligation whatsoever. So I know in the
past there have been people insinuating that National Guard troops
who were deployed in DC had some obligation to resist

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under this idea that's an illegal order.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
That's not the case.

Speaker 10 (01:11:35):
That's a matter of public policy for the elected officials
to decide. And so trying to figure out whether or
not these interdiction actions they're taking down in the Caribbean
primarily are are actually not part of an armed conflict,
which is the whole issue.

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
Wheer the Geneva.

Speaker 10 (01:11:53):
Convention, whether or not an actual armed conflict is going on,
that is a policy decision well above the end of
vidual sailors or Coastguard members pay grade. They're not required
under the law to have to try to figure that out. Now,
if there are specific orders that are being issued that
they no violate the Geneva Conventions, like cruelty to prisoners,

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et cetera, that's another matter. But I think that is
murky at best, and I think this is all just
a lot of political chess stumping that's going on at
this point.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
So if it's a policy matter, soldiers can't involve themselves
or airmen in that. If it's an order to do something,
Donald Trump is saying, I am sure that Hexseth did
not order two guilty individuals on a raft to be executed.
They were like giving up, so in battle, this in
a sense is a war. If they give up, raise

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the white flag, say I surrender. Does that mean they
can't be harmed.

Speaker 10 (01:12:52):
Under the Geneva Convention yes, and under our rules of
engagement yes. So somebody really did surrender and they fired
on them and shot at them.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Then they might have a problem.

Speaker 10 (01:13:01):
But just the practicality of a court martial, and I've
done court martials, is that you know, you can bring
the charges, but typically in my experience, and I only
did a handful of them down at Fort Bragg, I mean,
you're entitled what they call a panel, which is a
jury of your peers, which are soldiers who are of
your rank or higher, and they tend to there's a

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lot of jury nullification that goes on under those circumstances.
They tend to give the individual soldier the benefit of
the doubt in these cases, and it's one of the
reasons why a lot of them are not brought. So
you know, yes, you have this, like you know, theoretical
scenario where you could bring up an individual, you know,
soldier or sailor on some sort of on a court

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martial for doing something to a surrendering individual, but proving
that is very, very difficult, and you really don't have
a prosecuting witness unless, you know, unless there's video, which
in a lot of cases there is some drove video
these days, but even that can be in So I
think this is all in all likelihood much to do
about nothing. I do think and hope that the Trump

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the First Department or Department of War I guess they
call it now, does do a better job of flushing
out the fact that this is an armed conflict and
actually putting out some policy papers explaining why we're there.
That is the kind of thing that does trigger and
change the rules of engagement legally. I mean, right now,
you know, I guess the argument that a Senator Kelly
has is, well, it's not really a war, so there

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really are no of the military style rules of engagement
going on, so any person who's killed is being murdered.
I don't know that that's really the case, but I
do know that the Trump folks, I think, need to
get a better paper justification out for what we're doing
in the Caribbean. I do think there's likely some precedent
for what they're doing, but I don't know that they've
really stated that publicly in the way that they need

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to to define it as an armed conflict. But all
that being said, I just don't see usual court martials
being referred for these sailors or I guess they're Coast
Guard members. I'm not sure exactly who is actually doing the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Fire ivy sealed tamer in its Navy pilots and Seal
Team members, so.

Speaker 10 (01:15:12):
Well, and yeah, and that's if that's the case, then
the good luck convincing their commanding officer if you refer
them for court martial, because.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
That's how this starts.

Speaker 10 (01:15:20):
I mean, you know, it's a little different than the
civilian system that you're commanding officer that you work with
every day that refers you for a court martial, that
says that you're out of line. I mean, they go
and they involved the JAG lawyers, but it ultimately boils
down to the chain of command. So good luck to that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
The last time America declared war was nineteen forty one,
so it's been it's been about what eighty four years,
been a while, and so all the military actions since
nineteen forty one have not been under a declaration of war.
Does it since you're a military or been a military
attorney who taught subjects, does it make a difference to
the Seal Team or to naval pilots of which Senator

(01:16:01):
Kelly was one, whether a declaration of war has been
declared or simply another military action. We've had hundreds of
military actions in the last eighty four years. Does that
make a difference.

Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
It really doesn't.

Speaker 10 (01:16:15):
I mean the term is armed conflict that they use now,
I mean, you know, we had we you know, we
had you know we Actually you're right, we haven't had
a war declared since World War Two. But then we
had the Korea Police Action and they kind of gave
up on those terms. We were in Vietnam for god
knows how many years without a declaration of war.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
Likewise, in Iraq, in.

Speaker 10 (01:16:34):
Afghanistan, under the Geneva Conventions and under our you know,
internal rules of engagement, the term is armed conflict. We
have to show that the individuals that that you're you're
engaging with are capable of either returning fire or are
engaged in some sort of terrorist type activity like the
urban terrorism we saw, you know, in Iraq. So it

(01:16:55):
really we don't need a declaration of war to trigger
these rules in these rules of engagement.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Now, the flip side of this, I'm listening to Senator
of Gegos of Arizona about a week ago, and he
put out the missive that guess what, at some point
soon I guess three years from now, maybe hopefully at
seven years from now, but maybe as soon as three
years from now. The Congress is going to change, the
presidency may change, the Senate's going to change. And the senator,
the good senator from Arizona, said, you know, what we're

(01:17:23):
going to do is go after those who gave these
who followed illegal orders. That I guess the naval pilots.
I guess Pete Hegseth, I guess Donald Trump, maybe jd Vance.
Senator Diego said, guess what. Right now, it may be
non prosecutable, but when we take over, we're going to
prosecute the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of War.

(01:17:46):
We're going to go after the pilots themselves for following
an illegal order. Since you've been in the military as
far as Geneva Convention, how would that look like if
five years from now the president's different and they go
after the naval aviator who lit up those cocaine boats,
what would that look like?

Speaker 10 (01:18:05):
Well, it would it will be a very sad day
for the country, and it would really be undermining the
rule of law. I mean, there is sort of this
weird attenuated process whereby the Senate I guess, could could
through its oversight capabilities ultimately have hearings in refer individual
service members for prosecution in the federal court system. But

(01:18:27):
that's something that I don't know that has occurred ever.
I mean, even back in the time of the Myli massacre.
I think there's always been a deference to an allowance
for the military justice system to take precedent because there's
just this, I mean, just the bottom line is that
really only other military personnel could put themselves in the

(01:18:49):
shoes of the individual who is being court martialed and
being charged, and there's some deference that comes with that.
There's some common sense in that, and I mean we've
had this court martial system pretty much for as long
as as we've had a military, even going back to
revolutionary war days. So I mean, look, there is a
theoretical way that that could occur, but it hasn't occurred

(01:19:12):
in our system before, and I think it would really
really undermine military morale. I mean, if there is this
idea that you're going to take individual soldiers who were
following what appeared to be lawful orders and because now
the elected officials later I disagree with the policy behind
those decisions, that you're going to pull them out of

(01:19:32):
the military justice system and try to force them into
the federal criminal system.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
I mean, I think that.

Speaker 10 (01:19:37):
Would destroy morale, It would undermine what we have built
over the last two hundred and thirty four years in
terms of a military justice system, and it will be
a very very bad day for everybody involved. If they
don't like it, then they need to, you know, they
need to in some way or another make their political
arguments about what's going to happen here, rather than try

(01:19:58):
to go after the service members who were really just
trying to do their job.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
For what I can tell, yeah, Steve goodin military type attorney,
the Trump administration wants to go after our Senator Mark
Kelly to put them back in the military. I think
he's fully retired now and court martial him for what
he said on the video.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Is it fair to say what he and the other
four Democrats said on the video itself is black letter law,
which is you don't have to follow in illegal order.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
But that wasn't their intent.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
What would you describe as their real intents other than
telling the military what it already knows.

Speaker 10 (01:20:32):
Well, you know, I've watched that video at three or
four times trying to discern whether or not there is
something court martial abole if that's a word in the video,
and my opinion is just my opinion, is.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
It truly not.

Speaker 10 (01:20:44):
I think they were being very cute in what they did.
They were clearly making an effort. Kelly and all the
other people on the video were clearly trying to tell
send a message of political message to troops that they should,
in some way or another not follow along with the policy,
either whether it be in d C or an urban

(01:21:05):
deployments or in the Caribbean going after these drug places.
But they don't specifically tell them which orders they feel
are unlawful. And it's that lack of specificity that I
think probably keeps them from being returned to active duty
in court martial. A lot of folks don't notice, but
you know, when you are retired, you can be return
actually was involved in the case of where this happened,

(01:21:27):
where you can be brought back onto active duty in
court martialed if they find that you did something while
you're on active duty that was actionable, or whether you're
doing something to affect morale and so forth.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
Here.

Speaker 10 (01:21:38):
So it was very clear to me watching that video
that they that it had been. The words were very lawyered,
very Bill Clinton esque, where you know, they're kind of
they kind of cut through this middle ground where they
go right to the line of saying, you know, of
urging soldiers and sailors not to engage in certain activities.

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
But then they pulled act. They speak in generality.

Speaker 10 (01:22:01):
So I don't think there's going to be a successful
court martial there of Senator Kelly or any of these
other folks. I think that's also kind of political theater
at this point, but it is very distasteful. It is bad,
and I think everyone's got a right to call these
guys out because they are going right up to the
line of telling troops not to obey.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
Their commanding officers.

Speaker 10 (01:22:21):
And that is a very strange place to be, particularly
for elected officials, and particularly people like Senator Kelly who
have national profiles and who have kind of gotten themselves
into the Senate largely because of their military credentials. It's
a very strange place to be. Again, they're they're trying
to thrust individual members of our military into these big

(01:22:42):
public policy decisions that is to be hashed out in
DC and at the Pentagon and in the Senate and
in the White House. It's not to be hashed out
on individual military basis.

Speaker 5 (01:22:54):
Chips.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
You know, Steve Gooden, I could see B two pilot saying,
you know what, I don't think dropping those the mothers
of all bombs, those bunk or buster bombs and nuclear sights.
I don't want to do that. I'm not going to
do that. And I think it's a bad policy to
blow up these drug runners. I don't want to do that.
Or if the next time we have something at Heaven's

(01:23:15):
Gate as I call it in Cobble and there's thirteen
American Service personnel about to be blown up, and all
of a sudden, someone says, you know what, I'm leaving this.
This is too dangerous for me. I don't want to
be in this Foxhoul. I'm getting the hell out of here.
That's illegal, It's unlawful to do that. Wouldn't that so
absolute chaos in the military, which is what the Democrats intend,

(01:23:36):
of course.

Speaker 10 (01:23:37):
I mean, look, these issues have been legislated and litigated
to hell and back over the past one hundred and
fifty years or so, so I mean, really, the way
it works is if you disagree with if you were
in the military service. If you've been drafted previously or
enlisted now and you truly disagree with the policy and
the war or whatever armed action is being undertaken, you

(01:23:59):
have two two options.

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
One is you can get out.

Speaker 10 (01:24:01):
Most of the time, we'll have a what they call
a chapter proceeding and they'll let you go. Second, if
you're still on active duty and they can't let you
go for whatever reason, you can argue that you're a
conscientious subjector and there's a procedure for that, and they
try to figure out whether you have some sort of uh,
you know, religious belief or or other belief that would
entitle you to some sort of conscientior or conscientious objector status.

(01:24:24):
But other than that, sorry, you don't get to you know,
there's you know, there's almost two million people at the
different bridges of the military right now. We can't have
two million different takes on the policy behind it. If
you're in the military, you have to obey orders. That's
the whole point of it. And UH and just and
even even you know, four star generals at the at

(01:24:45):
the end of the day have to obey what the
Secretary of Defense and the UH and the and the
and the Commander in chief and our other leaders, civilian
elected leaders tell them to do. There are many times,
particularly saw this during Iraq and a game stand where
there's different parts of the war where clearly there were
disagreements among the higher ranking generals. But at the end

(01:25:06):
of the day, you know, we have civilian control of
the military. It's a top down organization. It has to
be a top down organization in order for it to work.
And the orders are given and they have to be followed.
So unless you fall into one of these specialized like
conscience subjective kind of statuses, it doesn't matter. And we
can't have you know, two million plus different different takes

(01:25:27):
on things. No one's really interested in your opinion when
you're in the military.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
A JAG attorney, former JAG attorney, Steve good and we
have to run. But the military is stainless characters, and
the Democrats want to sew the idea of insurrection. If
someone would say I'm not following that order, sir, they'd
be on CNN first thing in the morning. But Steve goodin,
once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Steve, you're a great American. Thank you, Thank you, sir,

(01:25:53):
take care.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
God bless you always continue with more. There you have it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
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Speaker 11 (01:26:01):
What an adjustment to the ball by Hudson And do
you knock sober the back right pilot for a fourteen
yard touchdown Joe Burrows first since returning from the toe injury.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
Hello, Wyett, I'm spoke.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
God saying rock I have the five games right here.
I'm gonna hold it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
Results not yet, of course, I'm listening and watching them
get it against the Ravens, and I'm angry.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
At the end of the game. I'm thinking, where was
that team all year? Why can't they do that on
a regular basis like a champion team would do, could do,
should do? Like the forty nine ers did it for years.
So Joe Montana or Pittsburgh did it for years? Uh,
just Ben Roethlisberger picked the team. Tom Brady did it
for years. That team dominated the Ray and I was unhappy.

(01:27:01):
Can I understand my psychologically what I go through?

Speaker 9 (01:27:04):
No, yes, I understand, but again, not taking anything away
from the wind. But Baltimore turned the ball over five times.
Some of that because of what the Bengals did, but
five times Lamar Jackson doesn't look good. It looks like
Michael Jackson. Yeah, set the Lamar.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
I don't know are they going to do anything. Most importantly,
everything went all right with you at the Palacial Estate
and thunder getting correct.

Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
We had.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Nobody, no injuries, no hospitalization or nothing. Everywhere well.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
We had the manes were done by four, the ladies
going nuts. Then they come up ed Reddin's Fine Meats.
They catered the whole thing, came in with the turkey
and mashed potatoes to the dressing some of the ladies,
and we had twenty two people and it all went
very well, no issues. In fact, they stayed around and
watched the Bengals game. What about the reef, it's lit

(01:27:58):
and it's up. Stayed up about eleven o'clock on Thanksgiving, noight.
I went upstairs, put my pajamas on, in my uh
in my house coat, and came down and my pj's
on and said, everybody, it's time to go.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
That that one that looks like Hefner right there. Are
you ready?

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:28:15):
Go?

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
First matchup was Green Bay and the Lions. The Rockhead
green Bay win seg had the Lions. Willie had the Lions.
Give you plus one right there. Second game is Kansas
City in Dallas. The Rockhead Kansas City seg had Dallas, yay.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
I had Kansas City. Yay.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
There's one for me, one one zero. Third game Baltimore
and Cincinnati. Rock Baltimore seg Cincinnati, baby Willie Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
Yeah, I believe. I believe he said, like Baltimore Baltimore already.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Then we had the Bears in the Phillies, not the Phillies,
but the Eagles. Are you ready, yes, Rockhead, the Bears
seghead Philly. Willie had the Bears. So right now it's
the rock has two. Seg has two and I have two.

(01:29:28):
Now we go to the tie breaker.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
St X v. Middletown. We go, but we gave.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
You ten points controversial.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Would you agree?

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Yes, well, Rockhead Saint X minus ten, Seghead Middies plus ten.
I had Saint X Bingo bongo bango three three two.
You lose hot Foot Sunny to each of us along
with North Carolina is going to win seven games seven games?

Speaker 4 (01:29:59):
Are you paid off the they you owe me one
that that you paid that off? I did because you
bet me on molar and you bet me on another
that one.

Speaker 9 (01:30:06):
He still owe me one for for the net result
of those two games plus one on this one.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
Yeah, you sound like betting Joe Dieters. I'll never get
paid from him either. I owed you something from somewhere
before that. What you're saying and say, how do how
do I beat you consistently? But I direct you picked Moler.
I picked X and they're big matchup. So yeah, he
seems to forget these things. Yeah, we won once again,
but we don't get paid. That. That was your same.

(01:30:36):
I met like two sundays here. I know, we'll leave
a hot fud Sunday in the studio to you get
back next week.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
I'm gonna go play golf for final. It'll just melt.
I'm gonna go hit the ball in Naples. They're angry,
high temperatures early seventy eight. I said, guys, I'll be
there to seventy tough. I'll be there tonight. What's the
big issue around the club? I remember a couple of
years ago was like that. The custard, like when you
wanted chocolate, a little bit of a nello would hang over,

(01:31:03):
and this was a huge problem. What are the big
issues facing the country club these days. It is the
alligator still at your door. There's a big alligator down
there called Big Owl. Do you want to leave big
Al alone?

Speaker 5 (01:31:14):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
I used to walk at night through the to the
golf course. Guess what I don't walk at night through
the golf course Big Owl. But we have many issues
at Port Royal and the Paul New issues.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
Yes, where are they? What black topping the driveways. There's
a couple of women when they cut the grass and
the liver where the grass savings get something instead of
a quarter? Bob co Opp knows what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Well, there are some women that walk into the dining
room with a certain kind of a heel and they
click when they hit the floor the porcelain tile, click
click click, And some of the diners.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
Be tough on the rock must be how do you
deal with these? Some of the diners are saying is
disrupting the mood. That's like the sound of pickleball letting
people up. I'm going, well right, Pennies like the oversea
everything he's in charge of bears, so she's gonna get
on the ladies that were the wooden heels she.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Said, we're not going to address this issue. Another complaint
from a member apparently my shrimp flombay, and all of
a sudden here.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
Clink clink, click, clink, clink, click click, And.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
So there's a motion of the next board meeting to
bar women from wearing heels that calls noises.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
Is that a problem? Big one, many bigger ones. Yeah,
we got great, we got Ukraine and Russia and and
and you with the shoes at the pall.

Speaker 9 (01:32:48):
That's a bigger problem than Ole Miss has. Right now,
what would you do?

Speaker 5 (01:32:51):
It is late.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
I watched this morning steven a and and Paul. They
went out at hard and the issue on one side
of the table is he recruited every player, he hired
every coach six years at Old Miss.

Speaker 9 (01:33:04):
He got them to places they never ever, ever would
have been since nineteen sixty. I don't recall what happened
with Johnny Pother or somebody anyway, And now he's leaving
for like eighty million dollars instead of I guess the
Old Miss said we'll match it, and he said no.

Speaker 5 (01:33:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:33:19):
So it's not the money, because yes, they would have
matched it. It's the fact that is a popular opinion
and somewhat justified that if you want to win a
national championship, if you're Lane Kiffing, you have all the money,
you got all that, but you want to go down
history is winning a national title.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
The popular opinion is.

Speaker 9 (01:33:39):
There's about four or five schools that you can really
do that at LSU's one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Ole Miss is not historically. Now, Brian Kelly win a
national that's your guy from Notre Dame.

Speaker 9 (01:33:49):
I know, yeah, I would argue that. Okay, I understand
that five years ago. But now, with nil and the
movement of the players, I think you can build Old
Miss into a roster because all they care about is
the money and I having.

Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
A great coach.

Speaker 9 (01:34:06):
I mean, who get the top offensive players, you know, quarterbacks,
receivers in the country.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
Everything here in Oxford?

Speaker 9 (01:34:11):
I would if I had taken a visit to Oxford,
I would have second guessed my college choice.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
What's better about Oxford, Mississippi than Oxford, Ohio, asked Bill Belichick.
Is Jordan Hudson from there?

Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
Not?

Speaker 9 (01:34:25):
Well, but there's got a lot of a lot of
girls that look like Jordan Hudson, a lot of twelves
running around there.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
Okay, I'm just gonna say. It's gonna tell you there's
nothing Baton Rouge. There's none in South Bend. We know that.

Speaker 9 (01:34:35):
But if you if you go to Ole Miss like
it's an isolated campus.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
It's kind of like almost like.

Speaker 9 (01:34:41):
Miami Oxford, where it's kind of like it's separate, it's away,
it's it's kind of your own.

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
Little kingdom there.

Speaker 9 (01:34:46):
It's beautiful, it's warm, beautiful people everywhere, the LSU.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
It's like a place. But yeah, you're kind of dealing
with what.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
It just doesn't seem as likely beautif. But again, they
have the money. What about the click click click in
the dining room. I mean, somebody on top of that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
I told you better get on top of that. We
can't have that. How about Kentucky fire Mark Stoops.

Speaker 9 (01:35:11):
That is dumb because they fire him now they only
might think thirty thirty seven million, and they do it
at the end. Here, there's no good candidates out there anymore.
I know they hired who they hired, the guy from Morgan.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
How about Chuck Martin. I mean you didn't know about
Chuck Martin. Chuck Martin should should be considered like that.
And I explained this to you off here. Everyone's looking
for the.

Speaker 9 (01:35:32):
Next hot like you know, offensive coordinator, young guy, this
and that. Give me somebody that consistently wins, year after year,
through ups and downs, consistently wins.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
That's what Chuck Martin does. The quarterback walked off the
team two weeks ago. What he kept blinding? I know
I would dominate Kentucky. Why don't they want what you
tell you?

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
It's the Kurt Signetti model Indiana.

Speaker 9 (01:35:55):
Instead of trying to find some guy that calls great
plays and he's young and he's their five and all that,
how about hire a guy that every place he's been
winner like Signetti, he wins I U p U I
where else he was some dto schools, he just wins, wins.
When Chuck Martin's that mount wins. Chuck Martin not to
go to Kentucky. He should well, they already hired someone.

(01:36:18):
But it just seems stupid. It doesn't look like a
college football coach. Chuck Martin looks like a high school
football coach. Signetti doesn't look like. It doesn't look like
Lane Kiffin, doesn't look like.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Does it matter? That shouldn't matter what you win.

Speaker 9 (01:36:30):
But the problem is is you know, you're dealing with
a fam The presidents of these schools and athletic directors,
they're so scared to make a big time choice where
you got to like put your you know what's on
the line because they care about, Oh, what's the fans
gonna think?

Speaker 4 (01:36:46):
Who cares with a fan?

Speaker 9 (01:36:47):
Go with your gut. Go with a guy who wins
football games? How about that area? Anywhere everywhere he's been,
whatever level, does he win consistently? Does he turned programs around?
That's who I would hire Chuck. I would prioritize that
over the guy who's the best play caller, has this
some crazy unique offense.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
Everybody has that some sports and make it fast?

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
Will he?

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
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(01:37:28):
Bengals coming off that big win Thanksgiving night, and now
the Buffalo Bills are on the road on Sunday. Are
they going to beat the Bills on Sunday?

Speaker 6 (01:37:36):
Rock?

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
Yes, please continue. Bearcats and Tarlton State tonight six thirty
on seven hundred WLW excellent the guitar former UK coach
Billy Gillespie. He's probably running against Alan Cutler to the
fifth third arena. Saint Francis takes on Zager tonight six
thirty fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
What is Carlton is a Carlton, Tarlton, Carlton cigarette cigarette
no Tarbo Texas five and three.

Speaker 4 (01:38:07):
They've won three in a row and they're one. One
main guy is Deor Johnson. He's pouring in about thirty
points a game and Zager's playing Saint Francis.

Speaker 5 (01:38:15):
Of a c C.

Speaker 9 (01:38:16):
Yeah, that guy's charitable. Do you blame Lane Kiffin or
do you blame the system?

Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
This system? The system. The system's got to be changed.

Speaker 9 (01:38:27):
Lane Kiffen deserves some level of blame for out but
the system is gotta change.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
It's got a change.

Speaker 9 (01:38:33):
You can't in the NFL, you can't A coach can't
leave and go to another team.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
In the middle of the season. In the season, why
not wait until February till things.

Speaker 9 (01:38:42):
There needs to be a head person overseeing all of
college football because right if you're Greg Sank, you're the
commissioner of the SEC. All you care about is the SEC.
You'll give a damn what happens with the Big Ten
as long as you're branding the money and you're on top.
You want the rules and the regulations designed to help
you be the best, so that if someone needs to
be over top of all of them saying, Okay, this

(01:39:03):
may not be the best for u SEC, but it's
best for all of college football, and everybody wins, everyone
gets paid.

Speaker 4 (01:39:09):
That's what needs to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Say give me out of the Student's Report, please getting
ready for all things, including the Crosstown shoot out, the
Bengals and St X Anderson I was playing for state titles.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
Later in the week, Willia and Honor of the Snow
on the way with Ted McKay. We leave you with
the immortal words of the Stooge Report. Life's never easy
in the National Football League. This is It's just amazing,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
It's Dave Lappham, the legendary sixty two a news radio
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