11-6-25 Roundtable Show with Lance McAlister and Rocky Boiman

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Speaker 3 (01:33):
Ready to go.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
The way I look at it rock every week. The
way we can break this down over the next two
hours with fifteen miss tackles on Sunday, we could spend
each segment breaking down two miss tackles and cover all
of them by eight o'clock tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
If this was a visual medium, we could definitely do it.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
This is unbelievable, unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, there is the stork at this.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Point it is and I thought, Wow, they are going
to make an unbelievable comeback here. They're gonna score twice
in forty nine seconds and win this game somehow, some way,
and get to the buy at four and five with
so momentum to take into the Steeler game coming out
of the buy. And then I thought, well, they have
to kick it off to the Bears in.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
The same when there was a minute left, you knew
what was going on.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
And then four plays seventy two yards thirty seven seconds,
and you know, with this team, you start making little
concessions in your mind. I'm thinking, all right, well can
they hold him to a field goal range? And maybe
something happens on the field goal and I'm thinking as
the pass goes to Colston Lovelin, I said, all right,
get him down right there, and the line on the
TV it's right on the range of the field goal,

(02:38):
and I think, get him right there and it'll maybe
be a fifty to fifty proposition on the kick. And
then he bounces off three Bengals and goes to rest.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
He was triangulated. He was, as they say, had three
guys around him.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
That's absolutely tough, unbelievable. All right, we have two hours tonight,
this show so big. We're on two stations. We're on
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UC basketball or yeah, no Xavier basketball tonight. So many
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Trags coming up in a few minutes. Chad Brenda l

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of Bearcat Journal, Greg Shoemaker tries a football tonight, and
Dan Kla how about some headlines? Can I do that?
Sire way? Start with the Reds? A lot of Reds
news Today, the Reds Hall of Fame announced eight former
Reds appear on the twenty twenty six Modern Player ballot
for the Reds Hall of Fame that includes Homer Bailey,
Francisco Cordero, Zach Cozart, Aaron Harang, Mike Leak, Brandon Phillips,

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Scott Rowland, and Edinson Volcz. Fans can vote Atredsmuseum dot
org through November twenty seventh winners announced in December induction
ceremonies April twenty fourth and twenty fifth, The top two
vote getters will go other Reds News today. This was
later in the afternoon. They have reinstated from the sixty

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day injured list Julian Agiar, Tyler Callahan, Rhet Louder, Carson Spiers,
and Brandon Williamson. They have sent Sam Benschotter outright to
Triple A Louisville. They have selected the contract of right
handed pitcher Jose Franco from Triple A Louisville, and they
have claimed right handed pitcher Roderay Muno's off waivers from

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the Cardinals. Raver San Martin claimed off waivers by the Giants.
The Reds forty man roster currently at thirty seven. There'll
be a quiz on all of this a little bit
later on in the show. Free agency starts today. Red's
free agents include Miguel and Duhar, Nick Martinez, Emilio Pagan,
Sam mal Zach Lettel Santiago Espinal, and Ian Jabou, all

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free agents. The Rays today claimed former Reds autfire Jake
Frehley off waivers from the Braves. College basketball Xavier hosting
Lemoynes College the Dolphins tonight at seven at centas it's
the first ever meeting between the two programs. Joe and
Byron have coverage starting at six point thirty on seven
hundred WLW Again, We'll continue on ESPN fifteen thirty till eight.

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The Bearcats host Georgia State Tomorrow. Night Talk Bearcats tonight
at eight on The West Miller Show. It follows us
on ESPN fifteen thirty Thursday Night Football Raiders at the
Broncos eight fifteen Kick Fox Sports thirteen sixty College Football.
Luke Fickel, we'll return to coach the Wisconsin Badgers next
season with a significant increase in financial investment in the

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Badger football program. According to ESPN, He's two and six
this year fifteen to nineteen in two seasons in Madison.
Soccer FC Cincinnati preparing for a Game three decider their
first round playoff series against the Columbus Crew on Saturday.
Laurel Faylor of Queen City Press says Pat noonan coach,
that everyone except Matt Miosga and Yu Yakubo he's out

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on a red card available for Saturday. Roman Celentano and
Miles Robinson named the US men's national team twenty five
man roster for the upcoming November FIFA International Window. They'll
report on November ninth for a training camp ahead of
two matches November fifteenth and November The eighteenth Hockey Bluejackets
skate at Calgary versus the Flames. Nine to thirty puck

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a straight set win. Today. Wow, that's a lot of headlines.
We've taken care of them. Let's take a time out.
Trags will check in. We'll talk Bengals on the bye
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on YouTube. We welcome in Mike, Petrolia Trags. How we doing.

(07:51):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Lance, how about yourself?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
We are We're well. And let's kind of sort through
the week that has been for the Bengals in the
obvious question. First, your reaction to the dealing of Logan
Wilson to the Cowboys for a seventh round pick.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
I think it was a move that could be expected.
The Bengals were trying to get a resource in return
from anybody, and they were able to do that in
getting a seventh round pick. They were able to free
up about two to three million dollars in cap space
immediately going forward, and that's something not much, and they

(08:31):
weren't going to get much for Logan Wilson. And I
think they were doing right by Logan Wilson. They knew
he was not happy in the situation that he was
in here in Cincinnati, and unfortunately, I think somebody said
it was like going from the Titanic to another to
the Hindenburg Happenberg kind of a yeah, it's kind of

(08:54):
a graphic comparison analogy, but you know, there's some truth
to that. Because of Dallas, boys don't exactly have all
of their ores in the water right now either. But
with Logan Wilson they get some type of commodity in
return that they can use next year, although obviously it's

(09:16):
not a huge bargaining ship at all that they're getting back.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
All right, Well, same question involving Trey Henderson. But you're
reactioned him not getting traded to me, I just feel
like this Bengals team, for whatever reason, is reluctant to
give up on this season.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
What about you?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Tracks are surprised they did not trade Hendrickson.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Mildly surprised. I wasn't surprised, Rocky, because of the price
tag that they put on Trey, they weren't going to
get that. They weren't going to get a first or
second rounder back in return, and so in that regard,
I wasn't surprised that they didn't trade him. Do I
think they should have traded him perhaps and gotten a
little bit creative?

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:00):
I do. I don't think Trey Hendrickson at this point
in time is a piece that can help the Bengals
get to the playoffs. I happen to believe at three
and six, given the way the defenses play, even with
Trey Hendrickson in there. The way the defenses play, they
are nowhere remotely close to being a playoff caliber team.

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And I think when teams recognize that early on and
make a decision to start building and building aggressively for
the future. To me, those are successful franchises with dynamic
general managers, and of course we could go down that path,
and it's like beating a dead horse. But the Bengals
don't have a true general manager. Of course, they have

(10:44):
a defecto one in Duke Tobin, but that is not
like somebody who is in complete control of football operations,
and the Bengals desperately need somebody to come in and
be in complete control, one single voice who has authority
on all football personnel matters. And again, we could spend
hours and hours and hours we have hasn't spent on that,

(11:07):
but that's not going to change.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Tregs. I thought you had a great question to Zach
earlier this week, and I'm paraphrasing, but it was, what
would he say to the outsiders or to the fans
who wonder why there isn't change taking place this week
with where the season is. What did you think of
his response?

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Well, that's a great question.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Lance Uh.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
The way I read into that is he's trying to
keep the peace in the locker room. He's trying to
satisfy ownership and the football operations. He realizes there is
tension abound in the building, and he just gave the
answer of you know, we are happy with the people

(11:50):
that we have. We are confident that we can turn
it around. And to me, it's it's sort of an
empty answer, but it's an I understand why Zach gave
that answer, because he's trying to keep all parties happy.
Please understand that Zach Taylor is a guy caught in
betwixt and in between. He is in between a rock

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and a hard place between trying to keep a team
that's certainly on the defensive side of the ball. Offenses
is great, it's playoff caliber or even Super Bowl caliber again,
but the defense is nowhere close to that. He's trying
to keep the peace in the locker room, and he's
trying to keep the peace with ownership and take the

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bullets for the ownership group and the management group, which
is they won't come forward and speak to the media.
So if the management isn't going to speak, if ownership
is not going to speak to the media. Guess who
that falls on, Zach Taylor. And you can criticize Zach
Taylor for the lack of accountability I think sometimes on

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the team and for players, especially especially on the defensive
side of the ball, making mistakes. One problem I have
and I'm thinking of this just as I say it now.
To call out Chase Brown for being upset but not
call out the defense for being horrific in its play
on Sunday, it doesn't strike well with me, and I

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don't think it strikes well with the locker room. And
he's got to be very careful going forward that he's
not getting on players for saying the wrong thing instead
of getting on players for doing the wrong thing on
the field. That is a very fine line that Zach
Taylor is going to have to walk.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Treig's you were all over this even during the bye week.
Tell everybody who wants to read, watch and follow how
they can do that.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Yeah, I've got to call them up on Steel and
Stency with a y dot com talking about why the
Bengals did nothing, essentially nothing and the status quo is
just fined by them at the trade deadline. That's up
on Steel in Essincy with a y dot com. You
can also check out all of my locker room reaction
and other musings on on my x page at trags

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t r agf and as always my YouTube my Jungle
War podcast page on YouTube dot com Flash Jungle War Pod.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Always appreciate and enjoy the conversation. We'll do it again
next week.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Thank you, Lance, Rocky, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Thanks tracks, he is Drags, Mike Petralis c l NS
Sincy with a y dot com. All right, we'll take
a time out and officially make the transition. If you're
listening on seven hundred WLW, you'll get Xavier basketball. After
the news, Joe and Byron setting up pregame coverage. We
continue on on ESPN fifteen thirty and to eight o'clock tonight.

(14:47):
Let's as we roll on, rock talk about the Logan
Wilson trade, a little bit on Trey Hendrickson and more,
and then we'll get into the offense and Joe Flacco's offense,
Joe Burrows offense, what we make of the role this
offense is on under Joe Flacco. As we roll on,
He's Rocky, I'm Lance. We're at long Necks in Hebron.
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into this week in the trade deadline Rock. But first
before we do that, it is time to review. Are
you ready for this last week's defensive play of the game,

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Rock The challenge is for the second straight week. One
stared down by me and reading the current correctly, but
two actually picking a defensive play of the game. We're

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gonna go with DJ Turner, who had four tackles on
the day, he had a pass defended, and on a
day where you gave up what forty seven points, We'll
go with someone who had a pass defendant. To his
credit and not to make light of his performance, Roma
Dunze was targeted three times, did not have a catch
on the afternoon. That's incredible in its own that he
had no catches and the Bears still put up that

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many points. Turner wasn't on him every single passing play.
But when you're looking for a defensive player of the
game on a day they gave up forty nine or
forty seven, you find one in DJ Turner. He is
our defensive play of the game recipient.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
And if you're looking for bright spots on this defense.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yes, that would be the loan one.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
That is maybe the one person you build this thing
around and try.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
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Call eight four to four Postman. So Logan Wilson, we
can go big picture and then the micro on this
Bengals make one trade. It's Logan Wilson. Look to me,
and I would agree with what Trag said if you'd
already made the decision. It was cut and dry. You
were you were demoting Logan Wilson, and you wanted your

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young linebackers to play and get snaps and find their
voice in the locker room. I understand trading Logan Wilson.
If that's your plan, then that's the next step in
that plan. I guess what is frustrating is Rock When
it was all said and done, a team that's three
and six saw the deadline come and go and they

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didn't do anything to make themselves better this year, nor
did they do anything to make themselves better next year.
So it's just a kind of a spinning of the
wheels where you really didn't do anything. And that seems
typical of this team that's unwilling to jump one way
or the other.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Right, it's like, you know, we don't know which move
to make, so we'll just kind of stay in the middle.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, and kind of.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Half the people be upset but happy over here, and
half the people will be upset and happy over there.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
I have about m by you, Lance, but of all
the problems with this defense and all the issues that
need to be solved, I thought there was such an
emphasis on the linebacker room, and I can make a
case there's like five other things that I would make
the emphasis before that. And also I don't know how
you feel, but well, Logan Wilson, you and I talked
about it. Yes, the splash plays are missing, the big

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players are missing, but the solid plays were there.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
We need solid plays at this point.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yes, that's a fantastic Just like basic title guy for
a three R game, somebody who knows where they should be,
they might not make the play all the time. But
they're gonna be in the right spot. They're gonna be
able to communicate to others where they should be.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yes, And if you know, and I hope Barrett Carter
and Demetrius Knight turn out to be great pros, but
right now they're not.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
No, you saw that that.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
You know it's some complicated thing, but it was like
how they were rated like the lowest two linebackers of
the last draft.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
And I'll give you just I know Prora has some
I know people look at Pro Football focused, some people
roll their eyes. All I know is it's a metric
that ranks things, and it's what I have in front
of me, So I can give you this. They're overall
linebacker great. Out of eighty two linebackers, Logan Wilson is
ranked fifty eighth, Barret Carter is ranked eightieth out of
eighty two. Dimitris Knight Junior is ranked eighty two out

(20:10):
of eighty two. Now, we both certainly understand their rookies,
they're learning and their arrow hopefully will eventually start trending up.
But what I don't get is, and this goes back
to my frustration of the mixed messaging this team. The
message all offseason was fast start. That was important, and
they got off to a fast start, and then Joe

(20:30):
got hurt. Things started to go sideways. There was a
sense of urgency in going and making a trade in
the division to get Joe Flacco to save the season,
and yet while doing that, they decided that Logan Wilson
should be benched and they should play the rookies and
go with all that came with it, their inexperience and mistakes. Well,
what is it? Is there an urgency because you traded

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for a quarterback to save the season, and yet you
bench the guy who knows what he's doing and maybe
not make all the plays, but you go with two
rookies who just don't know enough of what they're doing
right now.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
I agreed, and I guess a lot of the thought
out there is, you know, they're they're clearing the deck
and allowing so there's no pressure on Night and Carter there.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
They know they're the guys moving forward. But to me,
that's earned.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Like if they were playing at a at a rookie
Pro Bowl level, you say, okay, it's clear, let's kind
of you know, get on with the new and out
with the old kind of thing. But they've not. It's
not it's not been the case, and give us no
indictment on them as players in their future. It's just
the reaction where we're at. But so much time and
emphasis have been placed on on this linebacker room thing

(21:35):
when there's so many other fish of front.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I ask James Rapinabengals Talk dot Com earlier this week
on Sports Talk about this very point of Logan Wilson
being demoted, playing time taken away and given to the
young guys, and and the mixed messaging of all this.
Here's what James said earlier this week on Sports Talk, Logan.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
Wasn't so bad that you've had the bench, And in turn,
when you did that, you're right, you open yourselves up
to a lot of mistakes when you're still very much
in it. When you had just traded for Joe Flacco,
Barrett Carter's first start was Joe Flacco's first start at Lambo.
And the other element here is it completely tanks any
value Logan Wilson might have had. So there are a

(22:15):
lot of people that look at this and say, you
couldn't get a fifth for Logan Wilson or a sixth
for Logan Wilson. Well, maybe you could have if he
had another thirty tackles and he's on the field and
maybe had an interception or two and they made the
move then.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
And I do think it's.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
A questionable move that as THO now, has it made
them better? Maybe it will, but benching Logan Wilson has
not made them better on defense. And the past four
games are pretty obvious where the defense has had every opportunity,
even at Lambo at third and eight, to get the
ball back to Joe Flacco and the Bengals to win

(22:51):
that game, an opportunity to put the Steelers away, didn't
do it. Have multiple opportunities to put the Jets away,
opportunity to put the Bears away.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
This defense hasn't done it.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
And you do wonder, man, if Logan was out there,
would he have made a play, just that one play
that could have put one of those games away.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
James Rapeen Bengals Talk dot Comner Laer this weekend. Rock
I'll add to it, Trey Hendrickson because back to the
mixed messaging, if if it's important to take time away
from Logan Wilson to clear the deck for young guys,
Then why is it important to trade Trey Hendrickson to
clear the deck to get playing time for Miles Murphy
and Shamar Stewart and let them grow and develop. And

(23:31):
yet they're gonna they're gonna play around with Trey and James.
You hear it, James. James believes that they might eat
very well franchised tag tray next year. So I don't
get the and the Bengals held true. They wanted a
first round pick from trade at the trade deadline and
didn't get in. They were going to trade him. Well,
what is it? If you value him that much, then
why didn't you sign him to a multi year deal?

(23:52):
And if you don't value him that much, then why
didn't you trade him at the deadline when you're three
and six and you've got young guys who need snaps.
It just I struggle to make sense of idiot.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
There's no confident, organized planned that. That's exactly what it
comes down to.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's you know, yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Over here, we're gonna try this, But over here you've
got to have a strategy and everybody's gotta be on board,
and it can't have any feelings to it, but it
must be universal, So you don't make exceptions, right, you
don't say, well, we're gonna do this here, but yeah,
but maybe we'll kind of dabble off over into here too. No,
it's gotta be one plan, confident everybody's gonna be on
the same page moving forward. And with those two players,

(24:34):
it's treated completely different here. So they're also very unrealistic
about what they thought they were gonna get for hundreds
exactly right. Anybody who's ever sold anything a car or house,
anything get you know, I can say the market value
in my house is two hundred grand, but until someone
gives me two hundred grand, can go it ain't worth that, right,
you know, And you've got to be realistic about what

(24:56):
about what the reality is of what you're gonna get.
You can jump up and down and say he's worth this,
if no one's willing to give.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
It, he's obviously not.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
So then you got to go into okay, well, still,
what is the best for the direction of what we're
trying to do here is we're moving on and we're
trying to find younger guys and play on. Okay, then
we you know, maybe you take a little less and
complain about it, but you move on, you do it
and say it's the reality, but it's not treated like that.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Here's James earlier in the week on Sports Talk talking
about what the future might hold for Trey Hendrickson and
what he made of the Bengals not ultimately dealing trade.
Take a listen.

Speaker 7 (25:31):
I'm not surprised. I'm I'm disappointed, but there's there's so
many layers to this. I'm disappointed because I'm afraid that
we're going to go down the same pack that they
went down this past year, which is trade is kind
of in the wind. They can franchise tag him and
his agent left him open for the franchise tag, and

(25:52):
I think that's very much in play. I know he
dismissed that a few months ago, but I do. I
think that's very much in play. This trade thing, it's
just continuing to dangle, and it is a distraction and
it is an issue, and it impacts Trey and.

Speaker 8 (26:05):
It messes with him. I get it.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
You need playmakers. Fine, well, if you need playmakers, then
pay him, and if you don't want to pay him,
then trade him. And instead, it's it's weird in between
where they're three and six. But Trade's gonna come back
and he's gonna help them some and they're going to
be in this little middle ground. But I don't think
any team should want to be in, and I think
that's where they're going to be.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
The weird in between. A great way of putting it
where the Bengals are right now, And I'll go back
and James made it very clear even back to the
off season, the whole thing with Trade that extended through
camp and ultimately the holdout or the hold in or
whatever you want to call it. They they should have
decided in the off season we're either going to give
him the contract that he wants or we are going

(26:48):
to trade him, and instead they let it drag and
drag and drag.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
The trategy We're gonna wear them desk and then then
Trade is standing outside of practice in a golf shirt
doing his own interview while the team's.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Probably the whole It just became a circus. And can
you imagine next year if this story continues and they
tag him and how Trey's going to react to that.
It'll just be more unnecessary drama. This organization is so
good and unnecessary drama it drives me crazy.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Yeah, and all again comes down to not being definitive
with things, and sometimes you got to accept the reality,
move on, not think twice about it.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
But yeah, to your point, you don't have the chaos.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
And the yes, the question and the unneeded things we
got to deal with.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
It's every camp got to deal.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
With things that that that that shouldn't be as.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Big of an issue.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
And the other thing, if if they knew what they
were doing and scouting and drafting and developing and had
hit on somebody like Miles Murphy, hit on somebody like
Shamar Stewart, hit on somebody like Joseph Osai, your decision
is made. You just let Trey walk because you've got
guys in the pipeline that you've developed who are ready

(27:57):
to go instead right now if you take well, we've
seen it the last couple of weeks with al Trey
Hendrickson on this the it's it's horrifically bad. But without him,
from a pass rush standpoint, they have absolutely zero pass rush.
And that's after investing in Miles Murphy and Schamar's do it.
And I'm not writing Schamar off because it's a rookie

(28:19):
year and he injured an angle and all that but man,
there have been no signs from anybody else of any
ability to pressure the quarterback. And how sad is that?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Again?

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Reality and accepting the situation for what it is, you
got to be honest with your something said, you know,
we did not do a good job drafting defensive end.
So guess what that means. We're gonna have to pay
a lot more for the one that we have. We
wish it were different, Yep, we could jump up and
down and say why isn't it different, But that that's
the reality of the situation. And hey, we're gonna we're
gonna here's what we're gonna have to pay this guy.

(28:49):
And if you don't want to do that, boom you
move on, or you say, all right, we got we
gotta suck it up and write that check.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Still ahead, let's get into the offensive side of things.
They did put up forty what forty two points last week.
We'll talk about Joe Flacco and his four games in
a Bengals uniform and so much more. Then at seven
oh six, Chad Brundle with the Bearcats on the buy
but coming off a beating on Saturday night, Holy Callagan's
Utah will get into reaction to that. Round seven thirty six,

(29:17):
Greg Shoemaker has four games of the high school football
playoff docket. We'll get into seven point fifty. Dan Klaskins
has your fantasy football fix, and around seven twenty or
so we're going to get into Trags talked about use
the word accountability in the situation that Zach is put
in where he has to answer for this organization. I
want to get into that aspect. Plus the players on

(29:38):
the defensive side, many not choosing to talk on Sunday,
and what Drags alluded to, Zach kind of calling out
one member of the offense for talking and the reaction
to that. That's a whole lot to get to it.
We better just get to a break. It's since a
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(30:20):
in on seven o'clock Cincinnati Tax a Solution to Stop
Looking at My shoes. Round Table Show, Long Necks and
Hebrew presented by Postman Law. Brought to you in part
by every dry water pooping It's not dry till it's
ever dry. I was asking you, like man to man
what you thought of my shoes?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Does most men do?

Speaker 2 (30:39):
They're they're new, They're they're I bought them this week,
I got them shipped. They were twenty five. But I'm
just looking at my other shoes are wearing out and
they're not. They look dressier than I want them to.
They're missing like a stripe that would make them look
like basketball like tennis shoes, I guess. But they're very
comfortable and they're soft, and they seem to go hit.
I asked you, because I asked my daughter. You know,

(31:01):
you'll reach a point where you ask your kids what
they think and and and my friends coming to check
out my shoes. Now, my daughter's text was as follows.
Because here I sent her a picture, I said, what
what do you think? And her response was kind of
strange but not bad. So I took that as with

(31:26):
my daughter. That's a wind. That's a win when when
your twenty three year old daughter says kind of strange
but not bad. I hit purchase on the Amazon sent
them to me the next day.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Everything is relative, as we just got done disgusting. Now,
if you told me those things cost two hundred dollars,
I would have said, Noah, twenty five bucks. I thought
in the kind of kind of the trend now is minimalist.
I'm trend shoes. Yes, you're trending. Yes, minimalists. So you
have you know, it's better for your feet. Yeah, not
have all this art support and high heel lift and
all this crap.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
So you're on top of it man.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right, Yeah, I'm trendy. Kind of strange but not
bad according to use that. Yeah, you know, I wouldn't
put it past my daughter to give me like a
shirt that says that for Christmas, so my dad. Kind
of strange but not bad. Well, okay, let's do a

(32:24):
couple of things before we get into the offense. One,
it is time to review last week's drive at the game,
brought to you by Driveway Dumpsters in Cincinnati. Black and
yellow does mean trash. Visit d dumpsters dot com. I'm
gonna cheat. Technically not a drive, but it was the
play of the game. It was the opening kickoff return
for touchdown by Charlie Jones ninety nine yards to open
the game. The Bengals led seven and nothing rock. Did

(32:45):
you ever play it a game where the other team
had an opening drive kickoff to open the game and
scoring a touchdown?

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Shut up? How dare you?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I look that up? Just to make sure today, Devin Hester,
what it so? Your Your super Bowl has arrived and
the opening kickoff and the cameras are flashing in the
stadium and everybody's and Devin Hester take the kickoff to
the house against Jesus her Well.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
I mean, and the backstory is as I've described on
air before. You know, being a guy who is a
special teams leader on the on the team, you know,
the whole week leading up to the you know, there's
two weeks of super Bowl practice and we're you know
that the plan by Dungee implemented was we're not kicking
to him. The guy's like the best kickoff returner in
the history. We're not kicking to him. And me and

(33:35):
a couple of the other guys leaders on the team said,
you know, Tony doesn't kind of send the wrong message
of you know, we're gonna go out there and we're
gonna take the fight to him, but.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
We're gonna just kick it away from this guy.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
So night before the super Bowl, he says, and we're
kicking off to Devin Hester. So I'm partly to plan
for it to be honest, I am, and uh yeah.
All can say is Marlon Jackson had him tackled on
about the eighteen yard line and it slipped out as
he's done so many times. Oh I remember like running,

(34:06):
like chasing him, being like I can't e fing believe this.
I can't.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Sorry to bring that up a little bit of.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Small small piece.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
All right, it is time for our standing Ovation from
last week. It's presented by Ovation the Urban Resort where
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for four hundred and seventy yards four touchdowns. Rocket was

(34:42):
his one hundred and ninety ninth career start. It was
the first time he's thrown for over four hundred yards
in a game. He just didn't go over four hundred.
He went to four hundred and seventy yards. This team
in four weeks with Joe Flacco is leading the NFL
in points scored, eleven touchdowns, two interceptions. I mean, what

(35:04):
are the odds when that trade happened? If somebody had
said to you, hey, you want to make a bet.
I'll bet you over the next four weeks with your
quarterback who just got here three days ago, he will
go on a run where the offense scores more points
than any team in the NFL over a four week stretch.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I mean, what award is? Could he be up for?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Me?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Comeback Player of the Year, MVP? I'm serious?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Well, you know, and given all the contents, yes, yes,
and if I mean think of it, during this run,
they're one and three. If they were winning, he'd be
one of the dominant storylines in the NFL. Like, look
at what is happening in Cincinnati. The forty year old
quarterback is leading at their resurrection to the Bengals without
Joe Burrow and instead they've won one game.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
I mean, he's got to be just I mean, beside himself.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
What is to be made of, what is to be
learned from and what can be translated to next year
with Joe Burrow returning his quarterback with what they've done?
Is there anything of how they're doing this running the ball,
getting Joe Flacco under center on occasion, how the offensive
line playing better, they've established the run? What what do

(36:12):
we make of all this?

Speaker 4 (36:13):
And to me, I think Joe Burrow should learn from
Joe Flacco on how to give up on a play.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
And and and I don't know if.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
This is where you want to get into this or
notre but but I remember saying when when Joe for
a while, but especially when Joe Burrow got hurt, and
everyone's all.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
The offensive line sucks, y'all.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Is they may have been complaining about the offensive line
in the last three four weeks. It's kind of it's
the same line, right, But it doesn't seem to be
affecting Joe Flacco as much as did Joe Burrow. And
I just don't think Joe Burrow has learned how to
be a professional quarterback. He's still playing hero ball where
he doesn't give up on a play, and that's admirable
and it's why we'd love him, because he not he

(36:52):
never gives up, and he finds a way he spins
out and he throws.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
But it's to his own detriment.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
I mean, you look at the stats. I mean, Joe
Flacco has been sacked seven times in four games for
a three point nine percent per dropback.

Speaker 9 (37:04):
Right.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Burrow is sacked five times in two games. I mean,
those are small it's a small kind of you know,
stat to look at. But I feel like he's got
to learn how to be a professional player when Joe,
when Joe Flacco is getting rushed and just not there, boom,
that ball is thrown right into the dirt, yep, because
he realizes that no singular throw made in that game,
or even the result of one singular game, is worth

(37:26):
his health.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Burrow has not learned that.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
And there's also they have They've established a run, and
I think there's something to sticking to and not bailing
on a run to the standpoint of offensive lineman. I've
never been an offensive lineman obviously, but they love to
impose their will and when their success early running the football,
that means something to an offensive line, and that never

(37:52):
seems to be given enough of a chance. When Joe's caught,
Joe Burrow's quart up, because.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
That is, as I always say, the philosophy with Burrow
is Joe will ball us out and we got this
amazing weapon, so we better we should use him every
play instead of trying to have a situation where he's complimented,
where he's a compliment to even an average run game. Yes,
and that would that would help him out in so
much and in so many ways. To be able to

(38:19):
have that, it would take so much pressure off him
to again to not be that guy that has to
make a play. Part of it is think is his fault.
Part of it is the organization's fault, because I feel
like he faced this tremendous pressure and if I don't
make a throw here, we're done, We're screwed, Like we're
not gonna we're not gonna win. But I just really
hope Joe Burrow learns from next year on just how

(38:42):
to give up on a play.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
As a franchise quarterback. You got to learn how to
do that, and he just he hasn't.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
That's a good segment. We reviewed my shoes and you
you had the stuff you wrote down. He was good.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
You say this if I don't write no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I just I wanted you. I didn't want your stuff
to go to waste. That was good. I like percentages
and stats and stuff like that. Yeah, and you like
my shoes.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
They're passing me again.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
I mean, I played with Peyton Mann, you played against
Tom Brady. Those guys were absolute statues in the pod.
They never seem to get get sacked all the time
and get hurt and get broken toes and.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Knees and stuff that, because they don't have to get
rid of the ball. He say to learn how to
do that.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
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Speaker 2 (40:35):
Anyway, we go our number two of two underway. We're
hanging out a long next in Hebrin. It's the Round
Table Show. It's brought to you in part Pye Miami
University where today's students become tomorrow's leaders. Visit Miami oh
Dot E d U, Lance Pacallister, Rocky Boyman, Mike Mills
Engineering tonight. Always good to see Mike Joe Wadell producing
back in the studios. The gangs are here. Fran and

(40:56):
his lovely wife Phyllis are here. The way Fran was
checking out my shoes, Fran might be purchasing these shoes.
There may be an Amazon delivery to friends house with
the shoes like mine. Those are those are sharpes?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Sharp Man, your styling profile.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Am. Mike Gleason is here. Good to see him. Gregnapolitano
of Accent is here. So the gang is all here
and we are rocking and rolling. Let's talk some UC football.
Our next guest talks it and uh writes it and
covers it for Bearcat Journal dot Com. Bearcat's coming off
a forty five fourteen beat down by Utah. They have
the weekend off before hosting Arizona week from Saturday. Let's

(41:34):
welcome in from Bearcat Journal, Chad Brendle. How are you.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Just getting ready to you know, spend a couple hours
pulling for the Lemoyne Dolphins and my favorite new name
in college basketball Tennessee Rainwater.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah? How about that? So you're not cooking? There's nothing
on the on the on the grill or on the
spit or something. Yeah, what were you You were doing
risk brisket nachos last week? How those turnout?

Speaker 6 (42:07):
I was doing nachos. It turned out amazing. They were great.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
To be fair, are good? Sorry, Chad?

Speaker 6 (42:16):
I had radio today, so I just did Greek to
me on the way home tonight.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Oh there you go? All right? All right? Okay, so
let's go back to Saturday night, forty five fourteen at
Utah on the on the on the shock scale. How
how maybe shockings over over hyped? But what how surprised
are you by the way it unfolded Saturday night?

Speaker 6 (42:41):
Not very surprised, if we're being honest. I mean, if
you would have told me that they missed the field
goal and they fumbled in the you know, inside the
twenty five yard line in the first quarter. Yep, I
would have told you they probably got beat pretty bad
like that. They played right into Utah by which is
get a lead and then lean on you. And they

(43:05):
played great defense. They run the ball with six seven
offensive linemen like it's old schools smash mouth football. If
you give them the opportunity to get up ten, you're
in big, big trouble. And Cincinnati let them get up
ten quick, and they were in big, big trouble.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
The path ahead is as lopsided as the score was.
They still are in control of their Big twelve destiny
to Dallas, are they not.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
Yes, if they went out, they're in Dallas now. It's
the toughest three game stretch of the season. But the
way things are lined up, they got one loss, Texas
Tech has one loss. BYU doesn't have a loss BYU,
and Texas Tech played this week, so either Texas Tech
has two or all three have won. Cincinnati plays BYU,

(43:59):
that would give BYU ipothetically their second loss if they
beat Texas tex So, Cincinnati is in the driver's seat
for getting to the conference championship if they can win out.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
All right, So what's gonna be the key to these
three pivotal games coming up. Is there anything I mean,
striking the Bearcats just from my overall team aspect, weren't able.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
To do last week. What was the key the next
three weeks?

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Well, I mean, I think you'd agree with me. Rockets
pretty simple. They were on a seven game winning streak
because they took care of the football, They moved it
efficiently on offense, and they played great special teams and
the defense while they gave up a lot of yards,
kept teams out of the end zone. They played pretty
mistakes free football. If you can play mistake free football,

(44:52):
you're usually in a pretty good position to win a
football game. So you know, that's the big thing for
them is can they play clean and get back to
that because they were anything but they turned it over,
they had bad penalties, they played poorly on special teams like,
they did things that they have not done all season
that resulted in that loss to Utah. If they get

(45:15):
back to playing clean football, they're going to be in
good shape. If they're sloppy, they can lose all three
of these games because if you look at the metrics
just one for example, they're one spot ahead of Arizona
and sp plus and TCUs within like three spots of
them as well. BYU obviously is ahead of them because

(45:36):
they're undefeated and they're playing really well. So all three
of these games can be trouble if they don't play well.
They're not talented enough to go out and and you know,
it's not U se in the American Athletic Conference, where
they could go out and they could be a little
sloppy and it didn't matter because they were so much

(45:56):
more talented than everybody else. They were still probably gonna win.
That's not the case in this league. So they've got
to do a little soul searching during the bye and
get back to what got them here. And if they
do that, I feel good about it.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
A couple of former Bearcats reunited now in Indianapolis with
the Colts. With the trade of Sauce Gardner to Indy,
He's reunited with Alec Pierce. Offensive player, defensive player. Obviously,
I love the story that was related this week about
the two and you you watched them day in and
day out. Add some context to Sauce and Alec Pierce

(46:33):
back in the day.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
I think my favorite guys. So we had the start
of the twenty one seed twenty twenty one season, and
we are out at camp Hire Ground and Sauce was
obviously at that point, like it was pretty clear he
was all world and Alec was good, but he had
been hurt a little bit, had missed some time throughout

(46:57):
his career, like he was trying to take that jump
as well. And they'd do something called the opener when
Luke Fickel was here, which they'd have like a competition
at the start of every practice. And at the start
of the first practice out of Camphire Ground, they went
one on one Alec Pierce against Sauce Gardner and des

(47:21):
Ritter threw a fade ball into the end zone that
started at like the three yard line, and at went
up and made a big time play on the ball
right on Sauce. And I think at that point like
Alec kind of stamped himself as I'm gonna be like

(47:42):
this guy is going to make me great. And every
day they'd walk up first play of practice, every day,
they'd line up across from each other, they'd shake hands,
they'd nod heads, and then they just went at it
for two hours every day and it was maybe the
most fun thing I've done covering you see was watching

(48:04):
those two every day.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
And it's why I love.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
Watching practice like I'm a nerd about that stuff. I
love watching stuff like that where those two guys were
just every day making each other better.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
That's fantastically cool. Love that. I gotta ask you about hoops.
Give me a takeaway or an observation from the opening
night win.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
Bobba Miller made me look smart, So I thank him,
I've been saying throughout the offseason. As Cincinnati is to
reach their ceiling this year, it has to be with
Bobba Miller playing like he did on sound on Monday.
Eighteen points, ten rebounds, can get the ball and go
off the rim, push tempo, he can shoot it, he

(48:50):
can back down smaller guys and score over him. He
can pass, knows how to play offense. I can't remember
the last time Cincinnati had a guy like him at
six foot eleven seven foot that was that skilled. And
if he can continue where he's at and continue that
upward trajectory, this can be a really good team.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
You've got it all covered at Bearcat journal dot com.
Layout what listeners, viewers, followers, readers will find.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
Got a lot of great stuff right now. We've obviously
still been going strong through the bye week. We'll have
the aftermath tomorrow night after the UC game. Kegan nickoson
working on a great story on the UC recruiting department.
I think I mentioned this stat to you guys last
week or a week before. They took twenty two transfers

(49:44):
in the transfer portal this cycle for this team. Eighteen
of them are impacting this team.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
The hit rate has been incredible with Jack Griffith and
Zach Grant and that group. So that's coming up soon
and all your cover.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Rich excellent as always. Thank you for making time, sir.
We'll talk next week.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
Appreciate you, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Talk then there you go, Chad Brenda, Bearcat Journal, Bearcat
journal dot com. When we come back, I want to
I want to probe the idea of talking with the
media in good times and bad times, and also the
idea of Chase Brown said something that was construed by
Zach as crossing the line of what a player should

(50:33):
say about others on the team. I just I want
to take a listen to what Chase said and what
Zach said and get your reaction, as a former player
can we do that got it As we continue, He's Rocky,
I'm Lance. We're at Long Necks and Hebrew Cincinnati Tax
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(51:07):
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We give up away a print every week. All you
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If we draw your name. There is a sign up
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There is a pen that is not my pen because
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(51:49):
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the pen Tonight we'll draw at eight o'clock. Somebody is
gonna win rock. You know why I did over the
weekend quickly as I just thought about this, I got

(52:11):
another story that the order shoes that besides ordering shoes,
this will lead you once again another chapter in what
is concerning about me. We have a we have a girl.
We have a freezer in the garage, okay, and we
keep yeah, and so we have a tendency to lose
track of and forget about things that are in that freezer.

(52:32):
And it drives me crazy because we just we keep
adding more stuff, and I'm like, well, what about the
stuff that's already in there. So on Sunday, I took
all the stuff out of the freezer and did inventory,
and I wrote it all down, and then I typed
it all up, and I put it in categories of
breads and sides and made dishes and meats, and then

(52:53):
I put it on the refrigerator in the house so
we can keep track of and now we're well not,
Kelly's not participating any of this. I've drawed. I'm crossing
off each item we eat. I cross off the list,
the master list. But long way around to this point,
among the discoveries I was Kelly said Monday, she was

(53:15):
gonna be late coming home from work, and she said,
can you do dinner? And I'm like, whoa, yeah, okay,
I got this handle. So I went into the freezer
and I thought, you know what we're going to do
parmesan encrusted telapia tonight with a couple of sides that
are in the freezer.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Sounds great.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
I'm thinking this is aw sound it? So I get
it out of the freezer. I take it into the
kitchen and I've already set the table before I even
begin preparation of it. And I happened to look at
the instructions and right underneath the instructions was the expiration date,
and it said June of twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
Wow, I think you're gonna say, yeah, twenty twenty two
or something.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
To look on Phyllis's face tells it all, yes, twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
So I assume you pitched it.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I went to Plan B at that point, and you know,
I made lasagna. I went to the store and got
ingredients and I made lazangna. But my Plan A.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Was expired by a long shot, and that already died.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
The lesson why you should do inventory of your garage freezer, No,
I know.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Exactly what you mean, because we got a big freezer too,
and we buy a half side of beef and on stuff.
There you go, there's I should do the same thing
because God only knows what's in the back back of that.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yes, because you start digging underneath and you look at it.
Oh well, I forgot about that. Now you got to
inventory it like me. You got to do categories like
I got fat breads and sides and manes and desserts.
I'll send you my sheet.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
They send me a prototype of your sheet. What is wrong?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
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We'll make it a hot topic around the NFL is
just simply about talking and frustrations in a locker room.

(56:02):
And we'll approach it. We'll we'll baby step This first
part is I want you to take a listen after
the game. There was visible and clear frustration by the players.
The way that the game turned out understandable. You're gonna
hear what Chase Brown said about how things ended, and
he mentions the defense, and well, then we'll hear what

(56:22):
Zach said in reaction to that. Here's Chase Brown after
the game on Sunday.

Speaker 8 (56:26):
Just don't turn on each other, like we we know
how they can play.

Speaker 9 (56:29):
They played really well at the start of the season
like they did, and they like they were carrying us
on their back. So now that we're stepping up, I
think like we just got to play complimentary football, like
we put the ball in the end zone and go
up a point at the end, finish the game like
this ended, Like.

Speaker 8 (56:45):
That's it, Like that's that's like, that's what we need
to do.

Speaker 9 (56:47):
Just end the game, like make them get us the
ball back, let us go to twenty two victory, and
let's end the game.

Speaker 8 (56:53):
That's how that's like, that's how I feel.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Profanity was bleeped out a couple of times that enforces
how frustrated he was. But rock I didn't take it
as the first part of that to me. He laid out,
Hey they carried us early in the season and now
so he I didn't take it as like a throwing
the defense under the bus. He was clearly frustrated, but
I thought he laid it out well at the start

(57:18):
by saying, hey, they carried they played well early and
carried us. Now we're and we just got it and
they got up, you know, ep and finished the game.
Did you did you take it as crossing a lot?

Speaker 4 (57:28):
I just felt like he didn't explain it well, you know,
cause and he probably shouldn't have said it right, but
but I yeah, to your point, he's he's mentioned, hey,
you know, they carried us early.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
You know, we're kind of carrying them now, let's all.
I didn't make as big of a deal of it as.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Some Now here's what Zach said when ask about it.
Here's the coach, not if you're.

Speaker 10 (57:50):
Not doing everything you can on your own, you know.
And I've pointed it out with Chase. You know, it's
there's two big plays that we could have done better
that would have led to points. And so I think
I like Jamar a little bit. I can tell Jamar
is frustrated, but he didn't want guys coming at him
if he's had a poor performance or something that he
was disappointed in. So I trust that that's a one
time thing and we'll learn from that. That's not how

(58:10):
we want to react. And one of our best players,
one of our highest character players, I think, in the
moment's frustration, said that, and I don't expect that time.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Now you're gonna hear how Jamar presented it here in
a second. But Zach's comment. I've gone back and forth
all week, and he's He's right that what's the old
saying every time if you want a finger at somebody,
there's always two pointing back. So Jamar, Chase dropped a
pass on a series that could have led to points.
Jamar was not perfect. So I understand, you know, don't

(58:40):
be saying what the other side of the ball should
do when you haven't done everything on your But I
do find it, and Trags mentioned this earlier. I just
find it odd that Zach publicly commented on on Chase
Brown saying something, and yet Zach hasn't been publicly critical
his defense as a whole. It just seems it seemed

(59:03):
odd on a day where Chase Brown gave up his
body and was diving over top of piles, and Joe
Flacco's playing with a sprained ac and guys are getting
hurt and busting their tails. It just seemed odd that
Zach pointed to Jamar Chase for public criticism when there's
so much on this team that could be criticized. Does

(59:23):
that make sense where I'm coming from?

Speaker 4 (59:25):
And see, I think Jamar Chase has earned the right
to be critical of the entire team.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Because the guy's unbelievable. Is he gonna make mistakes?

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Yes, everybody is, but and certainly comparatively, I do not
believe every player on the.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Team is equal, because they're not. It's just the reality
of it.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
So, yeah, Chase Brown, you know, you could make the
argument probably shouldn't be talking about anything, just kind of
be quiet.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Ye here cha right, Here's what Jamar said about all
of this earlier in the week.

Speaker 9 (59:54):
Often's got a find a way to put the butt
in the game away somehow, some way gotta do it.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Try to keep.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Putting it on the offense his shoulders.

Speaker 9 (01:00:02):
Considering what you've all watched the last month or so,
that's on the way We're gonna fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
I don't know how fine, And that's what I'm looking
to keep pointing at the offense. I can't point at
the defense.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
It's becoming frustrating at this point talking about No, it's
just meeting meeting stops as this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Time was by week to meet out. I'm getting teddy
asking me about the defense and stops.

Speaker 9 (01:00:23):
I asked the defense that stop asking me that on
my offensive player.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Through that, I love that part of it. I'm getting tired.
He all asked me about the That's what I'm tired. Yeah,
I have offense, bro go talk to the defense. And
that's probably the best way to alter those because.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
I think he was, you know, saying look, they got
to be better, but without being totally you know, over
the top with it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
And I thought I was good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Now one more and this was Zach. And this is
part of a bigger point that Trags alluded to earlier.
How Zach. The way this organization is set up, Zach
is pushed to the forefront to answer for everything that
happen with his team. And I know he's the head coach,
he's paid handsomely. But there's a lot of stuff that
are especially this week from a front office standpoint, transactional stuff,

(01:01:09):
trades that Zach was the one who's pushed out to
answer to nobody else, including Duke Tobin. Listen to two
questions that we're asking of Zach this week about the
front office and how they felt about things, and how
Zach had to answer Zach.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
What's been Duke's assessment of just what's going on defensively
and what.

Speaker 11 (01:01:28):
May be able to improve after the BOD I.

Speaker 10 (01:01:31):
Can speak for anybody. I mean for us, it's we
got to execute better. Obviously, We've got to get everybody
on the same page and execute the fundamentals and the
details of what we're trying to do. I think everyone's
in favor of that, and everyone wants to do that.
We just we haven't done a great job of that,
especially over the last couple of weeks, and so we're
all accountable for that. That's what we'll spend our why
we doing as coaches, trying to find a way to
get everybody to play on the same page all the time.

(01:01:52):
We've got a lot of young players that are out
there at the same time, and so getting those guys
experience they need together h is only going to make
us better in the future. And so again we're just
working through all that. Guys are all accountable for it.
Everybody wants to play winning defense, winning football, winning team, football,
winning offense, all that stuff. So that's what we'll continue
to try to do.

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
I know you're not going to give us exactly what
conversations have been like, but when it comes to Douke
toe men or ownership and they said are they confident
in the defensive side?

Speaker 10 (01:02:19):
I should not speak for anybody. We have great staff,
great great conversations. Everyone's on the same page that we
just want to win and we want it to look
good when we're winning. Yeah, and there's nobody that lacks
accountability in any area. We're all just trying to do
everything we can to get better. But I'm certainly not
going to speak for anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Three times in that SoundBite he used the word accountability.
And it amazes me and it incredibly frustrates me that
everybody is held accountable down the chain of that organization,
and nobody has ever held accountable up the chain of
the organization. Zach Taylor should not be put out there

(01:02:54):
each and every week to answer questions, specifically in a
trade deadline week, to answer questions about what the organization did.
That's for Duke Tobin. That's for the de facto general
manager to address, to talk about why they did things,
what their vision is, what their plan is, and what
they're going to do going forward.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
So when I was with the Colts, bill pulling. Okay,
our GM had a weekly radio show and I had
to go on remember that Floyd Reese would have one
when I was with the Titans, just because that's just
what you did, and it was just such a great
for no other reason, it was a great example. Is
the guy who's arguably higher on the totem poll than
the head coach, probably the guy who's just below the owner,

(01:03:33):
is getting out there and having to face some criticism,
being held accountable, and a great in any good organization,
everybody should kind of pull some weight and want to
maybe take a little Yes, I'll take a few of
the arrows from your plans so you don't have to
take all the arrows.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
You think you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Would just do that, like you know, of course you
didn't want to do it, but you think you're just
out of respect for Zach and some of these other
coaches that are just getting punched in the mouth every
day having to answer questions.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
You just be like God, I feel guilty for not
he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
No, it's just it's not fair. It's just fair, not fair.
Duke Toba specifically this week, should have sat there and
answered questions about what happened to Logan Wilson, How did
it reach this point? Why did you decide to trade him?
What do you see in the two rookies? Can you
explain how a team that felt an urgency to trade
for Joe Flacco to save the season also decided that

(01:04:26):
Logan Wilson would be demoted and you'd take all the
mistakes of learning that came with your rookie linebackers that
have put you in a buying Can you talk us
through those decisions? And why did you decide to keep
Trey Hendrickson. All of that is fair. That's not even
like caustic, like mean, like torches. Those are simple questions

(01:04:48):
that a whether you're a de facto general manager or
a legitimate general manager, you should be able to face
and answer those questions. That's not beyond the realm of fairness.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Again, you should want to distribute some of the pain
out amongst everybody, so not one person is taken all
the time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
It's only fair when.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
We continue, four games on the docket for the high
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(01:06:20):
talk to some high school football. Our next guest is
all over it for the High School Football Tonight show
Trying to Stay Football dot Com. It's the sectional finals
in Indiana, the first round of the playoffs in Kentucky
in round two of the postseason in Ohio. Our next
guest is all over all of it. That would be
Greg Shoemaker. How are you?

Speaker 12 (01:06:39):
I'm wonderful man, how are you? This evening?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
We are well knee deep into it and we are
ready to get to it. I've strategically set this up
so rock against ask the samee next question and that
includes him being the leadoff hit or roes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
So we'll start with the number five Clinton Massey at
number four Taft.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Now this has to be a typer, Greg uh.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Taft has seven consecutive shutouts that have outscored their victims,
I mean opponents three and fifty to zero.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Is that true?

Speaker 12 (01:07:08):
That is true? It is something else and that to
have looks to defend its regional title. And they've been
fantastic all season long. And you know, the one thing
you got to say about this team is uh, they
do it on all phases of the game. The quarterback
Montsanta Torbott thrown for seventeen hundred yards. He's got twenty

(01:07:30):
six touch Yeah, yeah, you think three fifty to another zero.
We'll forb some infled into injury. And he has thrown
Torbert has thrown twenty six touchdowns this year, zero interceptions
and uh, you know, we talked about that the great defense,
but this is a great Senators team and they do
one thing very very well, and that is they can

(01:07:50):
put the ball in the end zone on special teams
and on uh on defenses. Likewise, that they'd have five
hunt returns fordowns this year for interception returns for touchdowns
do Fumbel recoveries for touchdowns and a kickoff returns twelve
total return touchdowns this season. So Clinton Mathews had its

(01:08:11):
work cut out for it down at Stargells Stadium in
the city. But you know this is these are two
teams are so different. Clinton Massy loves to run the football.
They've they averaged three hundred and twenty four yards a
game on the ground. Christian Trampler the senior there, He's
got over thirteen hundred yards and twenty touchdowns rushing. They've
got six guys with over two hundred yards rushing on
the year. So they spread the wells. They come at

(01:08:33):
you droves and that that could be interesting tomorrow night
in a game where you know weather plays a part
in it. I like the way Clinton Massy runs. The
one thing about Clinton Massy though, that's really interesting to it.
You know, this game's got all kinds of great little
nuances to it. Clinton Masthew has completed just twenty four
passes this year, but for six hundred and forty one yards,

(01:08:56):
and that is comes out to twenty six yards per
and they have ten touchdowns on those twenty four receptions.
So they're not just a wing key offense man. They
can do a lot of different things, and it's not
just like you know, a lot of wing wing t teams.

(01:09:17):
You'll see their quarterbacks with double digit touchdowns, low interceptions,
but usually most of those touchdown receptions or passes are
in the red zone. That's not the case here. Andrew
Smith has seventeen of those receptions, twenty four receptions for
four ninety seven yards twenty nine point two yards per catch,
and nine of those ten touchdowns, so he's had at

(01:09:37):
least one thirty yard catch in eight of their ten
games this season. And Clinton Massie, like Calf, both of
these teams have been up so much by halftime, they've
been on running clocks in the second half, and it'll
be interesting to see how these teams fare in a
fourth quarter in a knockdown, drag out battle for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
All Right, the Harris Wildcats, Kings Knights, get the scoreboard ready,
make sure the lights are in working order, because it
may be an active Knight on the scoreboard. Shootout wise,
it seems, yeah that both teams are averaging thirty.

Speaker 12 (01:10:14):
Two plus points a game. And now the cool thing
about that is Harrison's never given up more than thirty
two in a game and Kings has only done it
once this year, and that was against Anderson. So I
expect both these teams to put some numbers up.

Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:10:28):
Here's here's thing Aerson sitting at eight and three, they
are two two point losses and a one point loss
away from being eleven. And oh those three losses they
have are the teams who are currently a combined twenty
five and five. So even though that Wildcats are sitting
at number seven and their seed and they're at number

(01:10:49):
two Kings in this division to Region eight battle, it's
going to be much closer than you think. I think
it could be. In a really good night. King's quarterback
Grant Murray. He's got twenty seven touchdowns. He's a dual
Bratton strove for more than twenty two hundred yards, but
he's got sixteen touchdown passes and only three picks. The
cool thing about Harrison is they have nineteen intersections on

(01:11:11):
the season. Then Mark Carrion has six and Jack Dernier
has seven. So if this game gets into a shootout
or tries to get into a shootout, and they get
the ball thrown up in the air a little bit,
you know, Harrison might have that one pick six or
that one pick that changes this whole game into their favor.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Interesting, all right, let's go on to this one. Number six.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
The Code of East had number three Xavier and a
little drors Craig. The Bombers have been off for two weeks.
That's a long time. So their final regular season opponent
just scraped the game. They canceled the game, and then
they had a first round. By two weeks of not playing,
not hitting, are they going to be in sync? And

(01:11:55):
I know the Code of East has one heck of
a running back in Ryder Hooks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
How do you see this one?

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:12:01):
So You're right, will they come out floogish or will
they come out sharp? But I think that's the big question.
You know, they're picking on a Lakota East team taking
on the Lakota East team has won four straight and
they're averaging forty six points in that span. You know,
the best ball that they played in John Kitton era
for sure, and you know the two of the bigger

(01:12:22):
storylines in this game. He talked about Ryder Hooks. How
will Ryder Hooks be versus the Saint David's defense. Hooks
has nineteen hundred yards rushing in nineteen touchdowns. But he's
more than that. I mean, he's got twenty six hundred
dollars purpose yard twenty two receptions for four hundred and
three yards. So he has a way, he has a

(01:12:43):
way up a knack of getting yards put on the board. Now,
the other cool thing about Ryder Hooks is how will
Rider Hooks go against the Saint Xavier defense. Hooks has
started during this four game winning streak. He started to
play a lot more defense. He's got thirty four tackles defer. Yeah,
he's got one force fumble, one fumble recovery, and three

(01:13:03):
interceptions in the last four weeks as well. Two of
those are picked sixes, and he's got one hundred and
seventy five interception return yards, so he's gonna be able
to key on Jackson Fry and uh, you know, somebody
for Rex is gonna have to be on him, but
they're gonna have it. Has a trailer on him on
both sides of the ball, I feel. But the kid's
been fantastic. We had all district voting today and he

(01:13:26):
got my vote for on Ohio mister football. That's that's
just my nomination I should say for Ohio mister football,
because he's had one heck of a season there and Rocky.

Speaker 6 (01:13:36):
I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:13:37):
The other thing is, I don't know how evil Fair
going into RDII Stadium because the first time you go
in there as a team, it's a totally different vibe.
It's it's it's an intimidating and it's sort of all
striking experience for high school players. So if they if
they can get through that first quarter in good shape,
oh buddy, they NeXT's going to have their hands for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
All right. How about Winton Woods in Princeton, and boy,
you talk about a spotlight on a talent, level a
Division one college football talent level. This this matchup has
him all over the plays.

Speaker 12 (01:14:15):
Yeah, there's gonna be fifteen to twenty Division one college
players in this game, and with offers or signed somewhere.
Mostly of these guys are on defense. But you know,
I've seen both of these teams this year, and they
both tag tag teams on defense, and they fly to
the football. They're both very fun to watch. I do

(01:14:35):
think this will be a low scoring affair. Like Saint
X Kristin had a buy in the first round of
the playoffs last week, but they lost the regular season
finale to Middletown. So I really want to see how
they come out in this game. Whether they answered the call,
whether it was a good week of practice, that's you know,
still to be determined. But well I'll tell you what.

(01:14:58):
Like like, you know, they got a come out hot
because Winton Woods right now, they've been playing well. They've
held ten of their eleven posts seventeen points or less.
They're only allowing eleven points a game. Princeton gives up
just thirteen point eighty games. The key factor in this game,
I do have a feeling, especially if the weather plays
a factor, went Woods running back Isaiah Garrett returned to

(01:15:20):
the lineup three years ago. He had a one thousand
yards rushing as a sophomore last year. He's been out
for the first eight weeks he returns. He has He's
averaged one hundred and ten yards of game rushing in
his three games with five rushing touchdowns, and he had
one hundred and seventy six on the ground last week.
He's a difference maker in a game like this. If

(01:15:41):
he breaks one or two, it could be I mean,
that's about all you would need to put it in
the bag and ride at home with a victory for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
All right, Greg, looking ahead at tomorrow night, give us
a preview of the show.

Speaker 12 (01:15:54):
Yeah, we are on high school football tonight on Fox
Sports thirteen sixty and ESPN fifteen. I have the pregame
show and I will have on Ryan Lane from a
head coach at Mylon High School. They are playing for
their second straight sectional title against North to Cator. Those
two teams have met and knocked each other out of

(01:16:14):
the playoffs in each of the last seven.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Or eight years.

Speaker 12 (01:16:17):
Mike Orlando is surprising McNicholas Rockets is on with me
as well and Damick Surley, the head coach at the
Clinton Matthew Falcons will also join me. He has some
great stuff on that game and matchup with Taft. And
then after the Saint Xavier game, which will follow the
pregame portion of High School Football Tonight to Juan Alvi

(01:16:37):
and I will be back in the studio until eleven
o'clock giving you all the scores and highlights to meet.
You can check out the Tri State Football or the
Underground Sports Shop scoreboard on Tri State Football dot com.
Those those scores from all the playoffs games will be
updated all night long on Tri State Football dot Com
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Big Night, Big Night. Hey, I know it's an incredibly
busy day for you. Appreciate your making time tonight is
always look forward to talking next week.

Speaker 12 (01:17:03):
Yeah, sounds good.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
It's gonna be a good one next week for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Can't wait. Thanks Greg.

Speaker 12 (01:17:08):
All right, see you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
All right, there you go, Grand Shoemaker, Tri State Footballtnight
dot Com, the High School Football Tonight Show. On the
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Last week we looked at some players to trade to
target in a trade, and now as we head down

(01:18:12):
the stretch, I think we should take a look at
what lies ahead down this stretch. Who better to focus
on that than our guy, Dan Klaskins, Dan, how we.

Speaker 11 (01:18:21):
Doing going great? Going great? Happy to be here, can't
wait to get to week ten?

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
We got a lot of great Gamesley, Yeah, let's look
ahead into the crystal ball at maybe some favorable finishes
and some guys to target because of that.

Speaker 11 (01:18:39):
Yeah, I love looking ahead at that schedule, and there
are certainly some easy things to pick out, and probably
one of my top finishers will be quarterback Lamar Jackson.
Already through that bye week, there's no negative matchup. He
gets the Steelers Sandwich in between two massups with the
Bengals in weeks thirteen through fifteen. I think he's poised
to be QB one the rest of the way. In Fantasy,

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I feel really strongly about Miami running back to Von
Ahn as well. Back to back matchups again Pittsburgh and
Cincinnati the first two weeks of the Fantasy Playoffs, then
Camp in week seventeenth title game. I think that's a
shootout ik him the game flow agnostic. I love me
some Lad mccontee. And after a slow start, the second
year receivers really heating upland few teams have better slates

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for whiteouts and the Chargers down. This stretch gets a
little dicey at the end, but four plus matchups before
Week seventeen and dam Laporta. My favorable finish tight end
exploded a little bit last week. I expect that to continue.
Nobuy's left here either not a single negative matchup remaining
on the schedule four plus matchups. I think the Lions
tight end could finish in the top three at the position.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
All right, Dan, we're the significant injuries of note.

Speaker 11 (01:19:48):
Yeah, Rocky. The most gruesome one last week was Jade Daniels.
We all unfortunately saw that good news. It wasn't a
throwing arm. There is some hope he's back, but Marcus
Mario now taken over. You got Terry McLaurin another quad
issue here with his he's on the bench in Pining.
I mean, really, the whole Washington Commanders team, it's been

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sort of a lost season. Not looking good here for
any of their parts in fantasy. Brian Thomas Junior another
player I'm worried about playing this week. He hasn't practiced yet.
He's dealing with an ankle issue. Might not go for
the Jags in their matchup inside the conference. They've got
an aj Poop and Akua back on the practice field
in LA Though. That's good for the Rams, that's good
for fantasy managers. I also expect the Eagles that have

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a J Brown and sa Kwon Barkley a little dinged
up before their bye week they're looking good to play
here in Weekken. I expect Cleveland rookie quinch On Jenkins
to also be a full go out there. He banged
up his shoulder back in Week eight. Can't say the
same for Bucky Evering. This one's a little disappointing. He
is in practice all week coming out of the by
I don't think he played this week. Who knows when
he will. DeAndre Swiz didn't play last week against the

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Bengals fellas, but I do expect him back this week
for the Bears against the Giant. Kyle m Nungay is
going to get a little diaisy there first Swift. Aaron
Jones also trying to play through a shoulder issue there
for the Vikings, but Ramondre Stevenson is still not practicing
with his and the one that hurt me the most
last week, Tucker Kraft's on fire, one of my sleeper
tight ends going off for the Packers in the golf

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cart torn acl could even impact the start of next
season for him. And then, of course the other quarterback
new cj strout out with the cocusions of Davis Mills
starting for the Jacks, fire up the Jags defense Land, no.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Doubt about that. All right, how about some further lineup
advice in terms of studs, duds, and sleepers.

Speaker 11 (01:21:35):
Yeah, let's start with my studs, and let's start with
Jackson Dart. He's been one of my favorite players to
watch all season. Six qbs have thrown multiple TVs versus
the Bears. Dart as accounted for multiple scores in all
six starts he's made during his breakout rookie season. He's
a top five play this week at the position. I
think Rico Daddle a top five play at running back. First,

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the Saints the Panthers are all in. He's a big
reason they upset at the Packers and Lambeau this week.
He's a big reason fantasy managers might win fantasy championships
as this continues. And then on the dud side, to
Corey Krofsky, Merrit Bill, whatever you call him, he's starting
to be should be called a bust, one of summer's
hottest names. That running back hasn't had PPR points in

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five weeks, has only broke double digits three times all season.
I don't know if he's worth a roster spot, much
less than the lineup. I don't like Mark Andrews this week.
He scored twice last week for the Ravens. It's going
to be a little tougher at Minnesota, and we'll leave
you with some sleep. Sam Darnold, It's not going to
be five touchdowns again, but it will be a top
twelve finish in fantasy this week at home versus the Cardinals.

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He's the MVP candidate both in fantasy and in real life,
and tonight, fellas Troy Franklin, get him in your lineups,
top thirty wide out. He's been out played in Portland sudden.
I like him for double digit points tonight. I think
it's a great matchup for Denver at home versus the Rates.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
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Speaker 11 (01:23:00):
I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
More absolutely always enjoy and appreciate the conversation. Have a
great weekend and we'll talk next week.

Speaker 11 (01:23:50):
Looking forward to it. You guys, take care and enjoy
the games.

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(01:24:14):
can I lose track of days and times? And where
I can imagine how you keep track? Of But where
were you earlier this week?

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
You were last night?

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
That's right, last night, Yeah, I mean literally, uh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
Ago, I was in Toledo at n i U at Toledo,
uh and I was not a good football team right now.
It's I mean, and they're going to the Mountain West
next year. Yep, and not really you know, kind of
going off on in good fashion here, but uh, Taledo's
got a great team. It's it's shocking that they're five

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and four.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
They should be.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
They should have one loss this year, but they really
took it to and I you last night and then
I will have next Wednesday Toledo at Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
The Red Hawks just got beat by them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
But on Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, so we've got the buy.
We'll gather next Thursday night. We'll preview the Pittsburgh Steelers
and sort through what remains of eight games of this
season and the uh the the search for if it's
not a rallying point record wise, the search for finding

(01:25:24):
out things about this football team over the final eight
weeks of the season.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
What more are you an interested in, like one to
find pieces for next year? I mean you already on
the next year? Are you holding out hope right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
I mean, I think they as an organization, clearly with
the way they approached the deadline, aren't giving up on
this season. But three and six it's an awfully steep climb.

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
I think if it were a three and six where
we lost, like, you know, three games by six points,
it'd be one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Instead, it's three and six with the worst defense, historically
bad defense in the final eight. You you've got to
see something from my guys like Miles Murty. You got
to see something. I mean, you just have to because
it becomes the bigger offseason question of how the heck
do they improve a defense with limited resources and limited

(01:26:11):
you know, draft pick. I don't know how they're going
to do it. So something's got a flash in the
final eight or it's gonna be even tougher. Yep, all right,
thanks for hanging out with us. We got to get
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