Tri-State Chevy Dealers Bengals Postgame Show 11/2/2025

Chic and Bruce recap a Bengals loss along with your calls.

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Speaker 2 (01:00):
We are live at Wings and Rings in Oakley forty
six point fifteen Factory Colony Lane, and you are listening
to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented
by RNL Carriers. This is Chick Ludwig. I will be
joined shortly by Bruce Kazerski, Bengals legendary offensive linemen, and

(01:21):
we'll be breaking down the Bengals forty seven of the
forty two loss to the Chicago Bears at pay Corpse
Stadium today like a wrecking ball. Mike Mills is are
awesome on site. Engineer Joe Waddell is producing back in
our Kenwood studios. Wings burgers, sandwiches, salads, appetizers, drink specials,

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wings and rings, has it all. We'll be here in
Oakley until eight thirty tonight, and you are invited. And
if you can't be here in person, feel free to
join us by calling five, one, three, seven, four, nine,
seven thousand or one eight hundred do the Big One.
Were fifty four seconds away from a miracle victory. Down

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fourteen points, forty one to twenty seven. They score fifteen
points in forty nine seconds thanks to a pair of
touchdown passes sandwiched around the recovery of an on side kick,
and they lead forty two to forty one. And then
Cincinnati's ghost defense, and that's my nickname for him, their

(02:29):
ghost Defense, anything but Golden, reared its ugly head once again.
Chicago quarterback Caleb Williams fires a fifty eight yard touchdown
pass to tight end Colston Loveland with seventeen seconds remaining
and the Bears win, improving to five and three in

(02:51):
the Bengals fall to three and six two and three
at home. They lost their sixth game in seven tries
and just an unbelievable game today attract meet nine lead changes,

(03:11):
one thousand and seventy one total yards in this game,
five hundred and seventy six by the Chicago Bears four
hundred and ninety five by the Bengals. Joe Flacco was unreal,
throwing for four hundred and seventy yards four touchdowns with
two interceptions, but the most striking shocking number out there

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the Bears rushed for two hundred and eighty three yards
to the Bengals forty six. There were some incredible individual
performances in this game. T Higgins nine targets, seven catches,
one hundred and twenty one yards, two touchdowns, including an

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unbelievable forty four yarder, but the Bengals ghost defense could
not contain Caleb Williams and a rookie running back by
the name of Kyle Manangay, the two hundred and thirty
third pick in the seventh round, a rookie out of

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Rutgers rushes twenty six times for one hundred and seventy
six yards, and Bruce Kazerski. If I didn't watch it,
if I didn't listen, I wouldn't have believed forty seven
to forty two, Bengals so close to a miracle victory.
Disappointment once again.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I was sitting there watching it, and it was like
dejavou all over again. I felt like I was last week,
sitting in the same side of the club level watching
the same Bengal defense. This week, our special teams contributed heavily.
We had a great standing performance special teams. Wise, return
a kickoff, Yes, we get an on side kick, it's

(05:00):
all going our way. We block a kick, or yeah,
we blocked the kick field goal and they missed one.
It's all going right. We're throwing them all up and
down the field.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
And then and then what happens.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, you know. I left the stadium after the Bears
went up by that second score late in the fourth quarter.
I had to get home, had to get home, get
here for.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Seven, yeah, with like five and changed standing and.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Waiting for my ride, watching the jumbo tron from where
I'm getting a ride, and the Bengals court touchdown and
a two point conversion, and thinking, well, we gotta get
the outside kick we haven't got one of those laws
in forever. We get the hot side kicks, this can happen.
And then the worst thing happened in the world. We
scored too quick.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
We did.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
When's the last time we said that we scored too quick?
That's amazing, it really is. And that came with fifty
eight seconds to go. You know, you first thought is, well, OK,
fifty eight seconds, that they only have to go thirty
ards for a field goal, and that's probably the way
the Bengals will lose the game, the field goal.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Fifty four seconds and you're right, uh, Caleb Williams. They
just had too much time. And this is what we're
dealt with here, Bruce. And it's great to see you,
by the way, and thanks for joining me. Last time
on Sports Talk you called this a must win. Everybody did.
You can't lose back to back home games at this

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stage of the season, go to three and six and
keep falling farther behind the Pittsburgh Steelers, especially.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Going into the bye week. Yes, that that one week
off is going to feel like a month. It will
I feel like a month. It's like you play a
baseball game and losing on a walk off and you
play the next day, it's over. You got to drop it.
This one's this one's like uh, like I said, dejah vouit.
It keeps haunting, haunting the fans and they were livid.

(06:50):
You know, when you sit in the stands and you
watch the game, you're not sitting in the press corps.
You're not sitting. The fans were beside themselves livid.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
They were. I don't want to say as many because
they didn't have an accurate count, but the cheering was louder,
be honest, for the Bears at some points in the
game than it was for the Bengals, and that can't
happen at home.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Caleb Williams and Kyle Manonge and the Bears turned play
Course Stadium into their own personal playground there for most
of this game.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
It was truly sad. But you know, I sat up
there and I kept saying, this is what you know,
we actually had a stop in the first series. We
gotta call for a holding penalty, defensive holding and you know, okay,
well they stopped at once, and they'll stop them again.
Not the rest of the day, not the rest of
the day. I guess they made them punt once but
not the rest of the day. You feel when they
settle for a field goal, that's a stop anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Chase Brown drops a wide open pass that he might
have been able to score on. Yeah, okay, and that
caused a forty one yard field goal.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
So the Bengals go up ten to seven, and then
Cairo Santos misses a field goal, but dj Ivy gets
called for being in the neutral zone. They wind up
scoring eight touchdown.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
When they got new life.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
At that point in the game. You got the you
got the five yard illegal hand, legal contact by the defender,
and then you got that one off sides. You just
feel it's not gonna happen. There was another moment a
little while later where you just felt something was just
gonna happen against us. We're not gonna do this, We're
not gonna do that. Uh. And you start to get

(08:31):
the doubts because they certainly had enough unsuccessful But again,
Joe Flacco and the receivers, I mean Jamar Chason t
Higgins was out unbelievable, unbelievable, and they were playing their
butts off. They wanted to win this game in the
worst way. Uh. But there's something missing on defense. I
don't think it's I don't think it's effort. I I

(08:51):
really don't think it's efforts. Whether it's schemes, we're not
we're not getting We got pressure on Killer Williams on
on that long. The problem with get the pressure was
we didn't anybody when he ran. And that was my
biggest going in catching the rabbit. You know when he broke,
when he broke contain or stepped up, there was nobody home.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig. You're listening to
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(09:54):
tonight and Bruce. The Bengals came in really with the lead,
the least penalized team in the National Football League at
an average of five a game. Well, they had five
midway through the second quarter and a penalty, and every
one of them was crippling everyone. And finally Jamar Chase

(10:17):
gets his first catch at the nine to twenty five
mark of the second quarter, a Joe Flacco fumble got overturned,
thank goodness, and then he hits Chase for thirty seven
yards first and goal at the six yard line. And
what happens Orlando Brown on the next play an incompletion

(10:38):
in the end zone, Orlando Brown gets tagged with a
fifteen yard unsportsmanlike penalty and that just killed that drive.
So instead of getting a touchdown, they have to settle
for a field goal, and that.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Hurt every players had had situations in a game where
they've been chief shot at and they've been beaten. He
was beaten several times prior to that by the defense
and some men on that side probably, and the one
time he got run over, and it's he's a good player,
but you know, he just didn't have his best day
at that point and it was frustrated. And when whatever

(11:13):
happened on that play, he got in a fight. I'm
watching the play on this side, and next thing you know,
we get a melee going on the other side of
the field and he drew the flag. And you just
in that situation, knowing the way things are going, with
the frustrations mounting everywhere, you can't do that. You just
you just can't do that. And that's that's as big
a play in the game. That's a bigger penalties as

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in the game.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
And it was fourteen to ten at that point in
favor of Chicago. The Bengals had to settle for a
field goal. Fourteen to thirteen. Yeah, that that that.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
That's a four point, yes, four point penalty, and uh,
you know, momentum, you had all the momentum in the world.
You had players making plays and then then you get
the big fellaw getting that penalty, and that's that's that's crippling.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
It really is.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
There's no there's no excuse for it. I know they
they talked to him on the sidelines and I'm sure
he feels bad about it, but it happened.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
You know, you just you just can't do that. Let's
go out to the phones. Pat leads us off in
reading Pat Hi, how are you today?

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Oh? God?

Speaker 5 (12:17):
You know you know me. I usually don't listen to
the postgame show where when they lose, because it's such
a joke. But I thought i'd try today and see
if any truth or reality would be discussed. Now, just
as I thought, not a chance. Wayne box Miller said
that this team doesn't quit. Well, maybe the offense doesn't quit,

(12:41):
but what about the defense? He said, we did a
great job on special teams to get the on side kick.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
He said that the Bengals had a lot of time
to regroup. Really now, when Dave talked to the head coach,
Taylor said.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
That the defense is often unstepth Sorge and we didn't
have enough takeaways. What about knowing how to tackle and
putting more effort into that. I have never seen a
team that tackles so horribly. And they talked about having

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a bunch of guys that are leaders, who are our
leaders on defense. They went over fifteen minutes without even
intimating that our defense is absolutely horrific.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's why I'm calling it the ghost defense. Anything but gold.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 8 (13:37):
I mean I couldn't take any more, so I turned
it off. But now I just want to give.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
You one example of the embarrassing nature of our defense.
On Chicago's first drive in the second half, the Bears
running back who was fantastic, but then again, he was
playing the Bengals. He had just gotten a firm down,
but are number ninety eight.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
I had to look up his name, p J. Splayton.
I was shocked that I didn't know who he was,
but I have.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Never ever heard his name for anything describing a good play.
He was kneeling on the ground doing an Arnold Schwarzenegger pose,
flexing his muscles after they got a first down.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
I mean, how embarrassing is that?

Speaker 9 (14:31):
Naturally they went on to score a touchdown. Is he
one of those great leaders we have or is anyone
on this defense accountable or anything? Would you tell me.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
It's bad and we're stuck with it. This is who
they have, and there's too many young players. They're counting
on them and they're giving them experience. Meanwhile, they're getting
run over. They're not getting taken to the wood shed.
They're getting taken to the wood chip.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I'm just looking at some stats here. Myself and Jordan
Battle five tackles, seven assists for twelve. Carter linebacker five tackles,
five assists for ten. Dax Hill defensive back four tackles,
three assists for seven. Gino Stone four tackles, three assists
for seven. Those top four tacklers defensive backs are one linebacker.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
That's it, yep or Burks three tackles, three assists.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
I'm just watching that last touchdown they got again once again,
two guys trying to tackle the guy who scored the
touchdown and they just off of them. Yes, yeah, they
each back in the pros.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
Or do they assume you already know how to tackle?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I assume they expect you to tackle the defensive backs.
I played with tackle and I'm certain I'm not going
to speak too badly about I think this was all foreseeable.
I'm not sure that they're they've grown a whole bunch
in the Al Golden defense.

Speaker 10 (16:14):
And I.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Know he's a great guy and he's a good coach,
but they have not gotten better and just skimat wise.
Whatever it is they've not gotten better, and they're not
taking chances to get better. They're not the blitzer aren't
working when he calls them because somebody gets wide open

(16:36):
that they dropped the coverage on a back out of
the backfield completely one time. And there's just so many,
so many little things, and they are a step here
and a step there. As the coach said, it is
a step. But it's the NFL. You're a step behind.
You're a step behind, you lose.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
They'd give it up at least twenty seven points now
since the openers. That's eight straight games at least twenty
seven points. And we had the stat last week fifty
four and four when scoring thirty eight or more points. Well,
now he's one and four. Scoring thirty eight points. One

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and four is their record in the last two years.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
We were crying over our spilt milk last week when
they scored thirty eight and lost. Today they scored forty
two and lost. Yeah, that makes it even worse.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
I mean, I don't understand why the coach won't even
call them out and say something up besides their one
step behind.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
I mean, come on.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, if you saw what the what the players only meeting,
what that meant?

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, He's in a very, very tough situation because because
his neck is more on the line than theirs, be honestly,
because you can't you can't get a whole new set
of players at this stage. You know, I think he's
doing a great job offensively, but it's not working defensive.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Pat, We've got to run. We've reached the top of
the hour. News. Appreciate you calling. And Hey, he's Bruce Kezerski.
This is Chick Ludwigan. We are live at Wings and
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Speaker 2 (19:17):
You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports
Talk presented by RNL Carriers. He's Bruce Kazerski. This is
Chick Ludwig. We're live at the Wings and Rings Oaklegh
forty six fifteen Factory Colony Lane. We will be here
till eight thirty tonight and we're breaking down the Bengals
loss to the Chicago Bears like a wrecking ball. And Bruce,

(19:40):
you mentioned it as soon as you came in today
that the Bears had a great game plan, knowing how
aggressive this young defense wanted to be trying to make
up for last week, and they kind of played right down.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
That was my first thought watching sitting up there watching
the first couple series, is the Bengals are flying around
to the ball trying to take away I mean that talk.
This is the defense only meeting they were gonna fly
around they were gonna make plays, and they were except
for all the trick plays that they kept overlooking. And
they ran every trick play the book. Remember this head

(20:15):
coach came from the Detroit Lions and Dan Campbell, and
they ran every trick play in the book, and I
swear we saw every one of them today. They ran
lateral pat double passes, they were in reverse passes, they
threw back screens to the quarterback. It was just a
tremendous game plan. I thought they didn't run out of tricks.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
They turned the Bengals defense every which way but loose.
It really did they Wow.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
They were flying around, but they were going the wrong
direction sometimes and that's again that hurts, and it's a
one step that's coach said, you're you're one step away
from making the play. And then all of a sudden
they were able to get that pass off and throw
it backside to a screen to the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah. Caleb Williams he catches two passes, yeah, one for
a touchdown. So it was crazy. It really, this was
just a wild game, Bruce, And it was like it
was almost reminded me of flag football for a while.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, there was not a lot of hit. There was
not a lot of tackling going on.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Well and point all you hit to do is touch
your pinky on a player and he's down. Yeah, okay
after the interception, and that really helped the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
I'm looking at Joe Flacco throwing for Feurner in seventy
yards and the running game that's that ran so well
last week thirty one yards.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well, two hundred and eighty three rushing yards for the Bears,
forty six for the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And not only did they throw it
a bunch, they ran out of a bunch the Bears.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
It was.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
It was the six hundred or five hundred and fifty
total yards offense, five seventy six, it was. It was
just unbelievable. Look a track meet. Every time they got
on the field, it was up and down the field.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
You're right, let's go out to the phones. Mark is
in Florence, Hi, Mark.

Speaker 11 (22:00):
Yeah, how's it going.

Speaker 12 (22:01):
I just wanted to make three points about the game.

Speaker 13 (22:05):
I thought the momentum changed when when Chase Brown dropped that.

Speaker 12 (22:10):
Pass oh yeah, early in the game.

Speaker 13 (22:14):
And then the big the big one was that when
that missfield goal happened and the dj Ivy was outside.

Speaker 12 (22:21):
I thought that was a big game changer right there.

Speaker 13 (22:25):
And and the last point I'm gonna make, even with
that completion to the tight end at the end of
the game, if you tackle him, get him on the ground,
and don't because they were running out of time. That
field goal kicker was struggling the whole game. He missed
two field goals. So my my thing was get him

(22:47):
on the ground, make that kicker beat you with his leg,
because it wasn't no guarantee he was gonna make it.
And Jordan Battle was just he just put his shoulder
into him. He didn't wrap him up and try to
tackle me.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
So I'm not I'm not even going to go so
far as to say they needed to get that guy
on the ground. If they'd got the guys on the
ground earlier in the game, you know, if they stopped
and drive earlier in the game, maybe there's not fifty
seconds left.

Speaker 13 (23:15):
I mean, this particular game, I don't blame Zach the
coach on them losing it.

Speaker 12 (23:22):
I think you just have to point the finger all
on that defense.

Speaker 13 (23:24):
That defense, it just didn't get the job done at
no point in the game. And then those penalties. You know,
the Bengals kind of you know, kind of beat themselves.
So I'll get off and listen to the rest of
the show.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I know we had a we had the holding penalty
or in the game.

Speaker 12 (23:42):
Sad we here Bob Trump, he passed away.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Past interference that we have. We weren't close enough to
get the pass interference.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, and Demetrious Knight with the illegal hands. Yeah, and
I thought it was kind of a tickie tack clawtack.
But still that kept that drive going and they score.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
You might see that kind of call earlier in the
game to let everybody know we're calling it tight today.
Don't get handsy and h then you didn't see at
the rest of the game.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
And Bruce, how often don't we see it? This happened
in the Super Bowl down in Miami where the Chicago
Bears ran back the opening kickoff for a touchdown and
then Peyton Manning goes out and beats him for the Colts.
But anyway, that was my thought. Yeah, great for Charlie Jones,
that was awesome. Ninety eight yards a lightning bolt right

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out of the gate, and that caused the the time
of possession to be really skewed and the number of
snaps too. By the by the Bengals conversession.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
The conversation was about, you know, they won, they won
the toss and elected to kick off. They wanted, they deferred,
they wanted the ball start of the second half because
they get the potential pre pre half and post half score,
which they they got. But then we returned the opening
kickoff and uh that that supposedly shoots that theory the heck,
you know, but it didn't.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
It didn't. It haunted us, it really did.

Speaker 14 (25:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Let's go back out to the phones. Keith is in Muncie. Hey, Keith, Hello, Yes, sir, Hey.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Good day to you. I wish you the best, as
want to tell you you're one of the legends of radio.

Speaker 10 (25:26):
You are.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
You belong in the Hall of Fame your voice. But
I mean, just like the guy from Louisville Radio up
here in Fort Wayne.

Speaker 15 (25:35):
But want to tell you that it's like your it's like.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Your defense and your coach is bought off. I don't
understand it. And I mean, you guys are good, but
I just don't understand why they fall on their faith.
I mean, I'm sorry for UC for falling the other
day over the Utah. You know, I've followed you guys

(26:02):
all the time, but that's just like the Rids and
the Sinident at Bengals. I have so much faith in
you guys.

Speaker 12 (26:10):
Hell, you want to know.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
The truth, I could buy almost either team all by myself.
You want to know the truth. I could buy them.
But you guys are good, and I'm sorry for what
you have to have to deal with.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Well, Ken, we appreciate it, We appreciate the call, Thank
you very much. Bengals fans are frustrated, They're angry, they're upset.
They have every reason to be angry and upset. You
can't lose at home, and now they're two and three
at home, and they've lost six out of seven games.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
And now the frustration of a bye week coming off
two horrible losses, eighty points in two games and you're
zero and to the fans are gonna gel on, are
gonna sit on this for for another two weeks before
another game and won't be home and so who knows
in the time period it takes for them to get home.
It's it's gonna be a long period of time.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Hey, we've got to take a break, but we're gonna
come back with another Bengals legend when we return. This
is Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski, and you're listening to
the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by
RNL carriers live from Wings and Rings and Oakley on
seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati ZESPN fifteen thirty Welcome back

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to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented
by RNL carriers Bruce Kazerski, Chick Ludwig, and we are
live at the Wings and Rings, Oakley, forty six to fifteen,
Factory Colony Lane. Bengals fall forty seven to forty two
to the Chicago Bears. Today in the Bears turn pay

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Course Stadium into their own personal playground. And on the
phone right now with us former Bengals. Wow. From special
teams to wide receiver, He did it all, Mike Martin, Mike,
Welcome to seven hundred WLW. We love you much.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
What's going on, Chicken, because how you guys doing?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Man? All right, Mike, We're hanging in there.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Man, let me tell you something coming from Chicago. You
guys know that's where I live now, Yes, sir I
was back before.

Speaker 10 (28:23):
We got here.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
I'm talking trash all week by what by what was
going to happen? I get in town yesterday, I go
off to a couple of events the Bears fans. They
got five buses people in a club. I walked in
with bingle KEI on, and I almost thought I was
back in Chicago. That's how I mean, that's how many

(28:45):
Bears fans that there were. But oh, listen, I'm so frustrated,
and and I know, you know. I was with a
couple of guys, a couple of former players to day,
and everyone's frustrated. And you cannot play defense the way
these guys are playing defense.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
You just can't.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
You cannot win any games. You can't bump people anymore.
This is a physical game.

Speaker 10 (29:09):
You gotta rap.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
I told someone, I don't know what they do throughout
the week. I know it's not real physical practices and
all that kind of stuff. I'm hitting and tackling. They
have to get back to fundamentals. They have to get
They need to bring out a tackling dummy and have
every defensive player hit and wrap the dummy and take
the dummy to the ground. Because for the last couple

(29:33):
of weeks. That's all that's been happening. They think they
can bump a guy and expect the cat to fall,
and it's just ridiculous. Man. I had friends from all
over the country calling me after the game, Mike, the
Bengals are embarrassment, and I'm like, well, you know, I said,
I'm not gonna totally say that. I said, I said,
offense is putting up some points, but they still you know,

(29:55):
offense still making little small mistakes as well. But and
defensive league, they gotta get back to fundamentals of chocolate,
that's all.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah. The gap control is just brutal.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
We saw this Manongae just slither through, you know, like
a shot through the defensive line.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
That's that's that all pro Monogae, the future Hall of
Famer in Mononga.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
That's exactly right. And they brought in a guy. They
brought in a guy that they they just brought up
from the practice squad and he went two carries for
thirty yards.

Speaker 7 (30:32):
Yeah, it's read, but yeah, I'm talking about angles. They're
taking bad angles. They're they're losing contained that stuff you
learned in college.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, and they're drafted. They're drafted. To not do that
right right?

Speaker 7 (30:49):
How you lose containing when you know that's one of
your only responsibilities. If if if you, if you have contains,
stay outside, put your show on outside, stay out there.
These guys are different in different inside and folks is
running right around them.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
TV's are coming inside. They did it all last week
to the dv's to coming inside that block in life.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
There was there was a play when when Britain Brown
ranch with the twenty two yard touchdown to make a
thirty one to twenty seven. Okay, the announcers pointed it
out the Bengals defensive line they were slanting to the
weak side and the Bears were overloaded on the right side.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
That's that's what I'm talking about. Scheme wise. How could
you either somebody made the wrong call or or they
just are are coach to do that. And it doesn't
make any sense whatsoever. They're constantly goad to the wrong side.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
Yeah, and and and when those kind of things happen, man,
it makes you wonder do you have competent players on
the team or, like you guys said, are they being
coached wrong? Something something has a change, you know, I
don't think they gonna you know, it's hard to figure
out if they even got a shout of getting in playoffs. Uh,
but something has to change because if this continues, the

(32:10):
Bengals defense will be the laughing stock of the NFL.
This game is going to be talked about on every
major network for the rest of the week until Thursday.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Night for two weeks. They don't play again for a while.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
Ye two weeks, right, that's true, that's true. And now
they got to sit back and hear all this stuff for.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Two weeks losing the next week. It feels like two
or three weeks. Go bye week two losses, it's gonna
feel like a month, like a month.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Yes, And the thing is the best thing these guys
can do, you know, to get.

Speaker 12 (32:48):
Their minds back.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
Go home, wherever you live, go home, go home, and
come back with a fresh with a fresh fresh.

Speaker 16 (32:55):
Mind, so you can get down to tackling, wrapping up
and tacking.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Eight straight games, giving up twenty seven points.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Well, no, there was a and you were you were
part of this mic. There was a period of time
when we were when Browning was a quarterback and everybody
was throwing their their hands up in the air about
how poorly the offense was performing and they were they
own they had to own it. But at the same time,
was the defense doing a whole lot better? And it
was it was so bad offense will be that nobody
even paid much attention to how poorly the defense was playing.

(33:30):
We constantly put them in bad situations and they weren't
answering the bell at all. You know, they were giving
up touchdowns. And and so here we are now here
all the nine games in the regular season, and now
it's it's come to a head, Like you say, something
has to happen.

Speaker 10 (33:44):
Here's the thing. Let me tell you this real quickly.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
If I'm a defensive coach, is exactly what I do, and.

Speaker 10 (33:49):
You cant sugarcoat it. I'm pulling up the field.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
And cause you know how Bruce and these of the
coaches and all of the coaches would play one play
ten minutes and go down the line and look at
everybody's position, look at what you're doing, Look at this,
look at your footwork, look at this, look at your attack.
They need to do that all next.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Week, you know what, then they can take one game
and make a highlight film of what not to do.

Speaker 7 (34:21):
Exactly comes a tackling exactly, because Eric, I guarantee you
every last player on that field pretty much is an
example of what you don't do. And here's the thing
I'm gonna tell your guy to say, I left the stadium.
I left the stadium when they were down by fourteen.

(34:43):
I'm yeah, right, I get to the car and I say, okay,
bing okay, bingles went down the score. If they go
down the score, maybe they can get the off side kick. Boom,
they got the downside kick. I'm like, okay, now they
can put themselves in a position and in the game,
they go right down the field score, win the game.

(35:04):
And I'm thinking, okay, uh uh, the other team has
a ball now, so so first down, nothing, sucking down nothing.
By this time, I'm in the car listening to any radio.
The radio goes out. I don't know what happened. The
radio go Who's out? When it comes back in, uh

(35:28):
laughing him saying, yeah, that was that was a great
touchdown fifty a young Chicago.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
I'm like, what, wait, wait a minute.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
Fifty yell. I just saw it not too long ago.
I just saw what happened, and I was almost sick
to my stomach.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
You know what it would have been better.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
It would have been better to be down by by
like h two points and making and had the Bengals
slow play and kicking field goal to win that game
rather than having to have a touchdown because they had
to have a touchdown they made a big play. Congratulations,
now you put Now you put us in position to
have to play defense again.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
And Mike, I hate to cut you off. We've reached
the bottom of the holler.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
Bak. I just want to listen. I just want to
I just want to say hello to you guys. Man,
I listen to you guys at Chicago. So y'all do
a great job.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Appreciate you, Mike, thank you so much. Wow. All right,
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(36:41):
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(37:02):
phones and welcome in. Is this touchdown? Tommy and Milford?

Speaker 10 (37:07):
What do you need to say?

Speaker 17 (37:08):
Their checkter?

Speaker 10 (37:08):
It's like somebody you know.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yes it was. It was like, you know, it was
like last week was bad? Can we top it? Yeah?
We topped it this week again.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Now it's gonna take him two weeks to make it better.

Speaker 10 (37:22):
Yes, it's pretty.

Speaker 17 (37:23):
It's pretty hard to do, Okay. I think we're making
it way too complicated. If you can't stop the run,
you ain't gonna beat nobody. I mean, that's just the
way it is. And I think the last Pro Bowl
guy we had on defense was Atkins. So let's look
at what's going on with with Tobin and what they've
been drafting. I think part of the problem is they
don't have the players on the field that can play

(37:44):
this particular scheme. So whether you can change the scheme
or you can't change the players quickly, but these guys
ain't getting it. They're making the I mean even battle.
On the last play, Hey, you know what they're trying
to do. You're gonna go twenty yards try to get
a field goal. He's playing thirty yards eight. He was
trying to play against a touchdowns. I thought what they
were trying to play. They're playing for a freaking he

(38:05):
caught that right in front. Well heal didn't try to
wrap up nothing tackling tackling iss have that mental idea.
Let me tell you this crap wouldn't be going on
in Pittsburgh. Them guys would be out of here. They
don't put up with that nonsense. This defense is sawt
no tackling, arm tackled. Nobody tackles the legs. That guy's

(38:27):
five foot seven to two oh five and everybody's trying
to try to tackle him on his up by shoulder pad.
Why didn't somebody.

Speaker 8 (38:33):
Game around his freaking legs?

Speaker 10 (38:35):
Stoppers?

Speaker 8 (38:36):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
The two hundred and thirty third overall pick in the
draft out of Rutgers, Oh my gosh, what are the
running backs doing there? Uh? Pacheco a seventh rounder in
this guy manage, He's unbelievable. Twenty six carries one hundred
and seventy six yards six point eight a pop long
game of thirty nine and gush. DeAndre Swift is uh

(39:03):
is injured. This guy looks like Barry Sanders.

Speaker 17 (39:06):
Right, I mean, I don't know how I think. I
think since they've got the smallest scouting department, which is
part of the problem too. You can't constantly look at
PFF and figure out who you need to be drafting.
You've got to be close to these guys. You've got
to know what.

Speaker 10 (39:20):
They can do.

Speaker 17 (39:20):
You've got to know how they really are. I mean,
are you look back at our drafting. Our drafting in
the last ten years has been pathetic. Outside of Higgins,
Chase and Burrow, the rest of them, I don't think
I can name one that's made an impact. You've got
Miles Murphy, You've got Jordan Battle. I can go DA's Hill,
I go for them all. There's not a Pro Bowl

(39:42):
option in there at all. If I was starting his
defense over, I'm not sure I'd be able to hold
any of them.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Agreed, I thought, yeah, And then then uh, you know
there's new uh uh flyers gout mail looking to solicit
new tickets for next year, you probably has gone up.
And you know, uh someone told me that they had
called the uh the ticket's office about their the price
of their tickets and they said, well, you guys want

(40:10):
us to sign Jamar Chase and and Joe Burrow and
t Higgins and uh and Hendricks. You know, where's the
money coming from. We gotta we gotta raise the prices,
you know, And and that's the bottom line, you do.
But you know, at the same time, these guys that
aren't those four or five guys aren't making a lot
of money. You know, they're not type one. I was
watching a real play on the board because where it

(40:31):
was sitting, we had a good view of the board
that the pile was moving, you know, the running back
in the scrum.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
And he's movement and and battle comes in.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
He has a chance to take the legs of the
running back out and he like jumps into the pile
like he's a you know, jumping to the ball pit
at the pois r us instead of taking the legs out,
knocking the whole pile down, and they got four or
five more yards out of it.

Speaker 10 (40:53):
Yeah, he just kept frustrating, kept moving forward.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
He just kept moving forward, didn't he Oh.

Speaker 17 (41:00):
Every d J Reeder you know left, We've got nobody
in the middle that can move the defense of an
offensive line. I mean those offensive line guys for the
last two weeks, I mean they're pushing us back four yards.
There's nobody hitting these running backs for for a good
six yards. You're right, they'ret get hitting them backfield.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
They brought in a two guys in the last few
years that were run stuffers where they came from, and uh,
it's not helping they I mean they got the guy
from the.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Packers, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Then they got the guy before that from the Patriots.
Big was it?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I think the Jags Jag Yeah, the Jags, and and
uh it hasn't helped.

Speaker 17 (41:41):
So but I mean, I mean, and they weren't great players.
I mean they were role players, you know at Green Bay.
And I mean, guess what I mean, we can't be picky.
But on the other hand, I don't think we're I
don't think we're we're not getting more out of these players.
I mean, it's one thing getting the player and be
able to coach them up. There's none a coach up.
These guys are flat lined. You're getting negative.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, getting coaches have to coach, you have to get
more out of them, and if that's not happening, there's disconnect.

Speaker 10 (42:09):
I totally agree. I totally agree. We'll let you go.

Speaker 17 (42:12):
I know there's a bunch of others that need to
be on the couch and talking about this with therapy,
you know. But I appreciate you guys taking my call back.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
All right to exactly Steve guys, he loves his Virginia Cavaliers.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
How about that, go.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
On break the top ten.

Speaker 10 (42:27):
We're gonna be there.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Oh man, awesome, Say hi to your son for us.
Appreciate you, my friend. All right, thank you very much.
We got to take a break. We'll come back to
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(42:56):
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and we are live at the Wings and Rings in Oakley,
and we're breaking down the Bengals forty seven to forty
two loss to the Chicago Bears today. Well, Bruce, let's
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touchdown reception by the incredible Chi Higgins.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
I couldn't believe that was from my perspective. I thought
there's no way. And even if you listen to Flacco
in the post game, he says he just threw the
ball up there because he had man coverage and he's
fully expected to be an incomplete out of bouncer or
knocked down, and sure enough he came down with them
catchy were right at the top of him. It was
one of the greatest catches you'll see.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
It came just seventeen seconds after Cairo Santos's field goal
gave the Bears a seventeen to thirteen lead, and here
Higgins is with a buck twelve to go before halftime,
forty four yards. The coverage was like draped all over him.
There was a flag on the play against the defense,

(44:17):
and he went up and somehow caught that that football.
It kept going.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
The second touchdown was just as good. The one he
caught and rolled into the ends on that one side. Yes, yeah,
that's the one that they got in. The judge on
that side said it was down at the one.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yard mind, that's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, what a day for Tea. It really was. And
nine targets, seven catches for one hundred and twenty one
yards as seventeen point three yard average with that long
gain of forty four touchdown.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Everybody that caught the ball today had huge plays, you know,
I mean, you don't throw the ball for four in
the seven yards and have a lot of big plays.
But you can't stop anybody. That's that's the problem. And
what's enough? How do you you got to score every
time he had the ball? You feel like if you
have to, if you have to punt, you throw on
the game away.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
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Speaker 8 (45:21):
Hey, no need to rehash all the uh yeah, how
you doing?

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Uh?

Speaker 18 (45:28):
No need to behead most of what happened out there
because it's the broken record.

Speaker 8 (45:32):
Uh.

Speaker 18 (45:33):
Couple things I saw that. I I thought Orlando Brown
was an All Pro. He got knocked on his butt
by a guy that's smaller.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Than him on that fumble.

Speaker 18 (45:42):
Two guys there, you think you'd be pumped up, you
can't make the tackle. But real quick, a couple of things.
You can tell me what you think the off side
on the missfield goal.

Speaker 15 (45:56):
That guy's head was almost.

Speaker 18 (45:57):
Completely across the line. Don't guys can't they tell when
they're lined.

Speaker 10 (46:02):
Up off side?

Speaker 12 (46:03):
They just I couldn't believe that.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Dji. Yes.

Speaker 18 (46:07):
Another thing, I hope I don't hear any more talk
about Burrow coming back because there's no need for that.
And I'm looking at the schedule and you think it's bad,
now it's gonna get worse. The Steelers, they'll kill them.
I think the pages in them. But then they got
the Ravens, Bills, Ravens, those guys are licking their chops.

(46:29):
You you talk about yardage, now, wait till.

Speaker 10 (46:31):
They play those guys.

Speaker 18 (46:32):
I don't think they can win another game unless it's
trash games at the end of the year, maybe maybe
the Cardinals, maybe the Browns.

Speaker 19 (46:39):
But good season's toast.

Speaker 18 (46:41):
There's not too much reason to talk about anymore unless
you just like pain.

Speaker 12 (46:46):
Thanks a lot, man.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Oh we're Cincinnati fans.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
We have endured our share.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
We are resilient. We are resilient. And you know, if
you come down to the stadium to watch offense, you know,
Joe Joe Flacko and the boys have given us offense. Yeah,
I think it's a it's a great opportunity. Now the
defense has improved, can go through that over and over
and over. Ornando Brown has had a tough, tough goal
over lately and and he needs to play better. And
and that was a frustration that that probably calls that fight.

(47:17):
You know, he got bold rushed in the cause of
fumble and uh, the next play got pressured. And you
know he's got a prize. He's a prideful guys had
a great history. I don't know what's going on with
his technique or or what, but he's obviously working hard,
but it's not panning out.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Hey, do we have Tenny in Westchester?

Speaker 12 (47:39):
Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
So here's my point.

Speaker 20 (47:44):
I am waiting for Zach to be honest in his
press conference after a game like this one and say.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
The defense sucks.

Speaker 8 (47:58):
They are horrible, they can't tackle. I mean that last
take it down to you know, I give all the
credit to our special teams and the offense Joe Flacco.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
God blessed Joe Flacco.

Speaker 8 (48:14):
They got them in the position to win.

Speaker 15 (48:17):
This game at the end of the end of the game.

Speaker 8 (48:20):
And what happened. They get down to the end of
the game and they're that final pass play by the
Bears and there had to be at least three Bengals
around that dude, and none of them can tackle that guy.
Are you kidding me? I mean, the tackling on this

(48:41):
team is terrible.

Speaker 21 (48:43):
It's terrible.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Now, well, I think on the first thing about Zach,
he can come out and say I mean, some coaches
will come right out and say it publicly. Uh, He's
he's a player's coach, and he's he's not going to
dress people down in public. What he says behind the scenes,
we don't know. And I think I think that's his

(49:05):
way of handling this type of thing. But it's gonna
come down on him. You know, that's the bottom line.
It's gonna come down on the head coach and his
assistance if something doesn't change quickly. And then as good
as they are offensively and as good as an offense
can play. Obviously, Joe Burrow is a big loss, but
Flacco is outperforming all expectations. And where would this team

(49:27):
be without Joe Flacco? These games wouldn't be close, you know,
in terms of playing these opponents, the Steelers and the Ravens.
Their defense hasn't been a whole lot better than ours.
They've just got some good triggerment on the.

Speaker 8 (49:39):
Other indible Yeah, incredible, Yeah, forty years old and he's
playing this game on an injury, a painful injury. And
what he threw for damn near five hundred yards offense?

Speaker 15 (49:57):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yep? Yeah. And then and that and that's that's part
of the problem is is as good as he is
throwing from the pocket, he's not a mobile guy. And
so when you're a pass rusher, you're coming after the quarterback,
you know where Joe's gonna be, you know, And and
so that makes everybody's on the offensive line's job more
difficult because you know where the guy is, he's gonna
throw it quick. He's gonna get it to the open

(50:19):
receiver if he has time. Uh, and they just there
were times they didn't give him a time.

Speaker 12 (50:28):
Blew to this game.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
They lost this game.

Speaker 8 (50:31):
Everybody on the defense needs to pay Joe Flacco like
one hundred grand out of their pay because the way
he played this game and they lost this game for
his effort.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I'm going to slather repeat right and appreciate the call there,
thank you very much. And gosh, look at a Caleb
Williams here. He was the elusive butterfly. Five rushes fifty
three yards. That's ten point six six per Okay. He
was twenty of thirty four throwing for two hundred and
eighty yards. He was sacked twice, three touchdowns, including the

(51:08):
long gain on the final fifty eight yarder, and he
caught two passes.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah, that's rare. That's a rare combination.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Just a credible for twenty two yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
And watching and watching the game. Though he wasn't setting
in the pocket, the defense on the line got a
lot of pressure. They forced him to scramble all over
the place, but they never were able to get him
on the ground or take away his vision from downfield,
and so as he scrambled around a lot more time
and then you can't cover anybody for eight seconds actually

(51:43):
in any league. Absolutely you got pressure that forced him
to scramble, and that's a no go. You got to
keep him in the pocket. You get no pressure. He
stands around there and looks. So something has to change
in the scheme of things that we go after him more,
you get you know, Hendrickson back, who knows. But in

(52:03):
the next two weeks, they got two weeks to fix
the problem.

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trying to run out the crazy and that Eric Thomas
gets lit up by Jerry Rice. And then we launched

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Brett Farve's career in Green Bay. Gosh, Carl Pickens runs
back a punt for a touchdown his rookie year. They
knocked On Makowski out of the game, and on comes
this second year dude who got traded from Atlanta in
the offseason, Brett Farv and he throws the touchdown past
the kid, Trick Taylor in the final minute.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I've been there, done that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
And then the Kansas City game, Oh my gosh, it.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Just you're crazy. Denver in Cincinnati, Denver and Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Leon Hall bats the ball but he goes up in
the air and the Denver receiver grabs it. Right after
Cedric Benson scored a touchdown and the dude goes like
with nobody else left, nobody, nobody's there, tips it up
seventy yards seventy yards and he kind of walks along
the one yard line to burn some more clock and

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then steps into the end zone and just like that,
you're shocked. So the Bengals Masters of Disasters today was
another one. How can you give up forty seven points?

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Well, just come to Cincinnati. It's it's it's it's really,
it's really a shame. I don't doubt these guys are
giving it what they got, but they're what they got
is not good enough. They're not tackling well enough. And
again it's not just a recent issue. It's been the
whole progressive season, and we just it sticks out now

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that you're scoring so many points, to score eighty points
in two weeks and still still lose both games.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
And my partner here, Bruce Kazerski, he talked about it
when he first came into the store tonight that the
Bengals had a defensive meeting, so you knew they were
gonna come out and showed great energy. They're running around,
they're flying around, and what does Caleb Williams do? He
takes advantage of their aggressiveness. They are running the Bengals

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every which way but loose double pass throw back. Oh,
Caleb Williams catches a touchdown?

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Will he catches two passers today?

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, it's playing too.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
They took advantage of our meeting.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yes, took advantage of.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Yes, yes, you gotta. They came out flying and the
defense was flying. They were gonna make plays at all
the best intentions. And then they took advantage of us
slowed us down. And then you see the same thing
over and again. Once they slowed us down, you see
the same thing over and over and over.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Well, let's highlight the drive of the game. Bruce brought
to you by the BMW Store. They're over three hundred
and fifty BMW centers in the United States, but there's
only one store, the BMW Store where Passion loves company. Well,
how about right after the on sidekick recovery, the Bengals
drive six plays fifty seven yards. It only took forty

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nine seconds and Joe Flacco, whoop, not your touchdown pass
to Andrey Josavage and then the extra point by Evan
McPherson giving the Bengals a forty two to forty one
lead with fifty four seconds to go. It's gonna be
a miracle win, No, And then it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
That's what I said at that point. If they'd only
been down by two points, they will have taken all
that time off the clock and sell it for a
field to win the game. But you can't do that
when you're down a touchdown. You gotta score.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
When you can.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Big play, big play, what little plays, big play, whatever
it is. And we left fifty seven seconds or so
on o'clock and that was too many.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
That's exactly right. And Colston Loveland from the University of Michigan,
a rookie, he has a career day and it happens
against the Cincinnati Bengals. We're becoming like everyone's home coming.
That's what it's starting to feel like.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
I'm looking up Cole Comett. He had a field day
as well.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Colston Loveland seven targets, six catches, one hundred and eighteen
yards nineteen point seven per two touchdowns, including the long
of fifty eight yards, and once again, Bruce Kazerski, the
Bengals get burned and murdered by a tight end.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Awful Cole Commet it only said one here. I thought
he had several big ones. It was the other guy. Yeah, yeah,
Colston loved one and just yet brutal. You know, you're
taking away from receivers. I get it, but that tight
end is another in this league. Tight ends are great
receivers and you got to find a way to handle that.

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They're bigger fellas, So maybe they don't want to hit him.
I don't know, but but this this is just not
going to get we get it done. And it's is
it more and more discip this morning every week and
the fans leave more and more frustrated every week, and
you know it's just it's just not good for business.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Let's go out to the phones. Is Aaron from Greenville
still with us?

Speaker 14 (59:40):
Hi, guys, it's good to good to talk with you tonight.
Always good to be on with Chick and Bruce. I
want to start with one thing. First off, we need
to get Jim breaching and the Ring of Honor. He's
a he's one of the bringals legends. Always always good
to hear him when he's on the postgame show. But
the unfortunate part about the last two weeks. Is this,
this is what we've signed up for. You know, we've

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we've invested a ton of our cap space into offense
and have no cap space to put into any defensive players.
And we're playing a bunch of young guys. I mean today,
I'm I'm at the game today as a season ticket holder,
and we're looking up on the Bengals roster some of
the defensive guys that are on the field. So our
inability to tackle is a direct reflection of our inability

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to pay defensive players.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Completely agree, There's there's a lot of money and invested
in a handful of guys, and uh, I mean, these
other guys aren't making chump change. Don't get me wrong.
Uh they were. They were drafted to play defense in
the NFL, and that means they must be pretty good
and they're just not tackling right now. It doesn't matter
whether minim.

Speaker 10 (01:00:47):
Yeah, I agree with that completely.

Speaker 14 (01:00:50):
But when when when you've got you when you have
the opportunity to buy a paid you know, a proven
commodity that you've seen proved them selves in the NFL,
versus that risk of the draft. You know, the draft
is always a risk when you're when when you're drafting guys,
you never really know if they're going to be a

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quality NFL player. And you know what, what what let's
go to Logan Wilson for for for three years he's
as good as a linebacker as we've got and here
recently he can't tackle, you know, and he's he's one
of the guys we've invested money in. Orlando Brown today
was it was embarrassing to watch some of those defensive
those defensive ends push him around. I mean, that's that's

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that guy was supposed to be an answer we've got.
We've got sixteen million dollars invested in in a in
a left tackle that gets thrown around like a rag doll.

Speaker 10 (01:01:43):
He's getting used as a weapon. He's getting thrown on
our quarterback. At what point?

Speaker 14 (01:01:47):
At what point do we start talking about we've invested
too much money in an offense that scores a bunch
of points. It's fun to look at It's like buying
a Ferrari but not really looking under the hood to
see if it's got any of the pars that are
going to win win the game and and are defensively.
We we scored eighty points in two weeks and we
were walking away of that stadium disappointed both weeks because

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we can't stop anybody. Jamar Chase said it in the
locker or in the hallway walking out today. One Efen
he actually said the word, but one Efen stopped.

Speaker 10 (01:02:20):
We didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yeah, our offense is a ferrari. Our defense is a galope.

Speaker 14 (01:02:27):
It's that galopi, whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
You know, that was that was unfortuant to negotiate a
part of it. Everybody's everybody's wanting Jamar and te and
and Joe and and uh, all these guys under big
buck contracts. They wanted to stay in town. And that's
just the way the league is structured anymore, you know.
But but you know, you got to find some money
for the defensive side of the ball. The revenue is

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sharing eye and I don't know what the what the
salary cap is and how it's going to affect us
the rest of the way. But like you said, Brown's
having a bad couple of weeks here, if not more,
and something's got to change. He's a guy that was
brought in here to solve problems. And uh, right now
that that's that's a lot of the that's the best

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pass rushers on that side.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
He was here and here's brought here to solve it
and Aaron, we got to run. Appreciate the call.

Speaker 10 (01:03:19):
Thank you very much, appreciated.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Thank you. You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers
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(01:03:41):
So the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented
by RNL Carriers. This is Jick Ludwig. I'm alongside my
good friend and Bengals legend Bruce Kozerski, and we are
live at Wings and Rings and Oakley on Factory Colony Lane.
We're here till eight thirty ten night, and this is
the place to vent taking your calls. Let's go out

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to the phones. We got is this Bill in Dayton?

Speaker 10 (01:04:10):
Yeah, that's me, Thanks guys.

Speaker 22 (01:04:11):
All right, Bill, Bill Burn, building on an earlier caller,
how about we and the defense from posing and flexing
and performing on plays five thousand dollars per occurrence until
after their next win.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, don't you love it when a guy makes a
play and they pose and then they get burned on
the next play.

Speaker 22 (01:04:37):
Yeah, it's the game. Yeah, show some class and play
the game.

Speaker 8 (01:04:44):
Yeah, that's all I got to think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Right, all right, appreciate it. Jeff is in Dayton, the
Jem City. Hi, Jeff, Okay, we've got Brooks in Southern Illinois. Brooks,
what's going on? Hey, thank.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Yes, sir, family. I've had a long time with your.

Speaker 21 (01:05:15):
And my falls when I was in high school on
Forts pomp Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
He love.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Hey Brooks, you're up, you're fading in and out, but
you're exactly right. Bob Trumpy the Godfather, Okay. I got
to interview him several times over the years. Loved him,
absolutely loved him, and he had an edge to him,
but man, the kindest heart, he really did. And he

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told just the greatest story about training camp. How Paul
Brown had air conditioning in his room and Bob was
able to secure what he called an air cooler, and
he was busted, but he was able to say, it's
not an air conditioner, it's a air cooler that he

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got out of an addict from a woman's house that
he knew, and just just awesome stuff. And he was
a tight end, but a wide receiver. The dude could
flank out. He had unbelievable speed and just a tremendous
all around player. And yeah, early on in his career,

(01:06:29):
I mean, Paul Is bringing players in left and right,
flying them in, uh, working them out in Wilmington, giving
him a bus ticket back to the airport. And man,
the odds of Bob Trump he making it were minimal,
and man, he convinced them. And then as a broadcaster, gosh,

(01:06:50):
nobody better, nobody better. He's in the he's in enshrined
in Canton the Pro Football Hall of Fame as a
broadcaster for the NFL. And just what a voice and
what knowledge.

Speaker 21 (01:07:04):
Absolutely can you hear me any better?

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (01:07:08):
Yes, okay, I've got a follow up question though about
the current day Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:07:15):
I like Bruce's analysis. So obviously, the defense is our
major problem, as we all know. Can't tackle, we can't
get after the passer much. Uh, I can't get off
the field on third down, you know everything. But there's
one thing at the top of.

Speaker 10 (01:07:29):
The list.

Speaker 21 (01:07:31):
That the Steelers used against us, that the Jets used
against us, that this game today was used against us,
and that is simply defending the off tackle run to
the right side, especially either the B gap or the
sea gap.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Either one.

Speaker 21 (01:07:47):
If they ran at one hundred times, they're going to
get positive yards ninety nine times out of one hundred,
and most of the time it's ten yards. So can
you explain to us, Bruce, what is going on why
we cannot defend that play?

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
I had. I had a very similar first thought when
I when I was sitting out there watching the game today.
They seem to be running so much to the offensive
right side to our defensive left side. And you know,
when you game plan, you scheme things up, you you
kind of have your favorite places to run. You not
only is it your matchups because of who you have

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playing on your right side, but it's also maybe the
defense of who they have playing on their left side.
And it might be that you really favor the matchup
the last few weeks or the last three weeks, and
you're seeing the same kind of result every every week,
week in and week out. Today that that first year
player average seven yards of carried almost on the same

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type of same type of play, and again, yeah, you
know what's coming. I'm sitting up there in the first
row of the club. If they're thinking, here it comes again,
they gotta know what's coming seven yards.

Speaker 21 (01:08:57):
One other follow up, one other follow up there to
that last week after the Jets game, you mentioned that
they would come out and be overloaded, uh, to one side,
and it looks like we didn't adjust to that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
They overloaded their formation, they brought another offensive lineman, or
they put two extra tight ends on that side, and
we didn't adjust.

Speaker 21 (01:09:19):
Did they do that again today and not adjust?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:09:23):
Well then, I mean this is not this is like
football one on one. I mean, what's the problem there
On the defensive coaching side.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Well, I guess they plan on filling those holes with
linebackers and safeties. I mean we look at safety. No,
it's not the safety. The safety led the team in tackles.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
That's it. All the dbs hit all the tackles, and
that tells you right there, they were busted through the line,
and uh, they're in the second level before you can blink.

Speaker 21 (01:09:48):
That's right, the second and they're getting blown off the
line of scrimmage too. It seems like our defensive tackles
aren't really helping us much.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
I don't think crazy. I don't know, Brooch. We got
to run. We've reached the bottom of the hour break.
Thank you so much. Hey, you're listening to the Tri
State Chevy Dealers post game Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers.
He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig. We're live in
Wings and Rings in Oakley until eight thirty tonight on
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(01:10:22):
to the Dri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented
by RNL Carriers. We're live at the Wings and Rings
in Oakley Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski, and we're talking
Bengals football. They fall today forty seven to forty two
to the Chicago Bears, so close to a miracle win

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to come back from fourteen down, outscoring Chicago fifteen zero
in a matter of forty nine seconds, but they left
enough time. Fifty four seconds left and Colston Loveland hauls
in a fifty eight yard pass from Caleb Williams and

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two guys right there, they bounce off of him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
They need that block tackle instead of wrapping them up,
they just blocked. You know, you give him to make him,
make him make a field goal from there for crying out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Uh, absolutely, it just h it hurts. And I finally
got to see the final play because heck, we're driving,
you know, I'm driving to get here to Oakley and
listening at the at the very end. So hey, do
we have John and Cedarville still with us?

Speaker 15 (01:11:39):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Yeah? John, Yeah, John, go ahead, we'll be recorded.

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
Good evening, Uh, Bruce, and get.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
Good evening, can you hear me? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Yes, what's on your mind?

Speaker 23 (01:11:53):
Hey, listen, I just want to start off again another week,
h both carrot can't run without his feet and and
then again you start off the game with it with
with a runback. You're up seven nothing, stop the press

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out board is your defense?

Speaker 15 (01:12:16):
You know?

Speaker 23 (01:12:17):
Seven nothing's enough to win the ball games. Oh, you
got to just go out and play defense the rest
away and maybe shut him out.

Speaker 12 (01:12:25):
Then you go home with a victory.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Yeah for later yeah, yes, yes, and then.

Speaker 23 (01:12:31):
You got you got you got Flacoh, he may just
see the NFL Comeback Player of the Year this this season,
and he's being overshadowed by a bad defense. I mean,
come on, some guy's got to pick it up if
it I mean here, and you look at the rest
of the schedule, I mean, you're either gonna lay them

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out of they're gonna lay you out. But there's nothing
intimidating left on that dag on schedule the rest of
the season.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Hey, the Baltimore Ravens are getting healthy, John, The Baltimore
Ravens now have Lamar Jackson back, so they're going to
be difficult. The Pittsburgh Steelers are waiting. They're waiting for
the Bengals in a couple of weeks. And John, Hey,
appreciate the call. You call us every week. We thank you.
We've got to move on. Appreciate you as Bob Trumpy

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real quick.

Speaker 23 (01:13:26):
I just want to say prayers to his family and
and thank you Bob Trumpy for taking my first call
to WLW Sports Talk mat before Chris Collins took over.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Absolutely appreciate that. Thank you very much. Hey, we've got
Mike in La. Mike, welcome back to seven hundred WLW. Man.
We love you.

Speaker 10 (01:13:53):
Well you chick.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Don Donahers God he may reincarnated.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Yes, I see La, and all I can think of
is the Dodgers beating Toronto.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Oh.

Speaker 19 (01:14:09):
I didn't want to lead off with it, but man,
I'm still in seventh freaking heaven. Brother, that's the best
world series. That's the best world series we've had in
many years.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
And what were you thinking? What were you thinking when
pa Has basically slams in the key k Hernandez. It
makes that.

Speaker 19 (01:14:31):
Catch unbelievable because Kek can always get it done. But
pa Has is a gold glover. No, I was freaking out.
I was almost see my pants. To be honest with you, well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
I didn't see who was named the MVP, but in
my mind, Yoshi Yama Moto. That dude was an absolute beast.

Speaker 19 (01:14:55):
That was the MVP, and well, well well deserved. But
if it wasn't for our starting pitchers, we'd have never
won that damn thing. So thank God for those fellows
because we sure as hell couldn't hit. But I'm glad
you brought it up because I still have a smile
on my face. But if somewhat diminish with the passing
of Trump, you know, people don't realize this guy was

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a tremendous golf analyst on NBC for years.

Speaker 24 (01:15:25):
Oh and thanks football football, football, But like like he
was saying earlier, Trump, Trump was very intelligent man, very
intelligent man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
And as for crying out loud, the guy was so
versatile for for NBC. It was amazing. I did his homework.
He was always prepared.

Speaker 19 (01:15:46):
Yes, yes, he was around before you, right cause.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Yes he was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
He was doing radio in Cincinnati when I got here.

Speaker 19 (01:15:56):
Okay, hell yeah. I just want prayers out to his family.
God love them. But I'm looking at the rest of
this Bengals schedule, Fellas Deelers on the road after the
buy Patriots at home, Ravens on the road, Bills on
the road, Ravens at home, Dolphins, you might win that one.

Speaker 12 (01:16:17):
Cards.

Speaker 19 (01:16:18):
I don't know if they can beat Arizona and then
the Browns. You know, I don't see many more wins, guys.
I'm just sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
I Donald, I agree with you, and I think the
line went to six and a half, you know, over
under six and a half. I'm not picking them to
win seven games, not the way they're playing now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
No, Well, it's the NFL. Everybody, everybody on any given
Sunday can win. And we've proven that we have the
ability to lose and even when we score forty two points,
which should not happen. Yeah, it's happened twice.

Speaker 19 (01:16:54):
Because with your Harold background and the great offensive lines
you played with. How and then I know you got
to go, how do you explain how things have kind
of diminished with our drafting capabilities, our development capabilities.

Speaker 15 (01:17:10):
Do you have any insight into that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Car Well, my offensive line, Anthony Munos was the only
first round pick on it. We had two six to
seven and I was a nine across the board. They
don't even have they don't have that many many rounds anymore.
But the coaches, it was a coaching They brought us
along and made us players and made us play together.
And we were healthy enough, fortunate enough to stay healthy

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for the entire period of time. And you know, these
guys are transit because of the free agency markets and everything.
They move in and out and it's hard to get
that cohesiveness. And we seem to be playing much much
better as an offensive line. But right now, defensively, you know,
we couldn't tackle O their way, you know, out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Of the box.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Right now, the best, the best Jim was the best
line coach in for football.

Speaker 10 (01:18:01):
Absolutely.

Speaker 19 (01:18:02):
I mean, I'm I'm a native Cincinnati.

Speaker 10 (01:18:04):
And born and raced and proud of it.

Speaker 19 (01:18:06):
But I've been in California for a long long time
after Vietnam. But how do you Oh, gosh, I always
do this. I've lost my train of thought. I'm sorry, guys,
thanks for the time.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
I appreciate appreciate it. Mike, Yeah, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Man. You just well, Scott Peters was doing doing a
heck of a job because these guys when the season started,
it was a nightmare. You watched Joe Burrow run for
his life until he finally uh got hurt. Uh. And
then the first week that Flacca was in here, it
wasn't a whole lot better. But all of a sudden,
now we're running the ball, we're able to pass protect
most of the time, and sometimes we got to get
some help. I don't know what happened with Orlando today

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because he didn't do that last week or the week
before early in the season. Yes, it could be the matchup,
could be that that player happened to have his number.
I'm not sure, but I know it has been better,
and we give a lot of respect to Scott Peters
from his ability to get that out of those guys.
Something has to happen on the other side of the ball.
Though it's not the offensive uh collapse in the last

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few weeks. It's the defensive collapse. And you know that
somehow the coach has got to get more out of them,
and and and and scheme and whether it's schemat ley
or or what, because there there's not not enough, not
enough success on that side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
I fact one one punt, one punt. I could just
hear former defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer. You know, four guys,
and then the linebackers fill the gaps and.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
They're gaping holes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
You saw what Manangae did today.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
They're running the stretch plays just so everybody knows they're
running a stretch play, so they're they're getting a lot
of lateral movement. And all you got to do is
get one guy out of his own one guy not
clean in his in the proper hole, and there's a
there's a hole there for the running back to get through.
And then these guys are so powerful it's difficult to
make arm tackles. You got to what to them. You
gotta shoulder pads and helmet down on there and get

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and get physical. And and I think sometimes we're reaching,
especially on it's a safety coming down or a cornerback
having to come up. I watched them run a jet
sweep today, and you can see the motion coming. The
defensive end on the other side of the ball is
standing up. He has to see it coming. And yet
he did not widen a split second, not a foot.
You know, you're seeing the ball coming at you, you know,

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you don't widen the foot, and before you know what,
the balls.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Around you like. You're surprised, just crazy, You're right and
off to the races. And that's what this was today.
It was back and forth, nine lead changes, over one
thousand yards of total offense. I'm thinking the team that
has the ball last is gonna win. And less than
a minute to go, I tell you the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
That the Bears are going home wondering what the heck
happened to their defense too? Yes, you know, and and
and they're trying to figure out solve some problems because
they're not gonna win a lot of games playing like
they did. Uh defensively, but you outscore somebody, you score
forty seven points. I guess that's the number. It's not
thirty nine, thirty eight, it's forty.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Seven, that's right. And they were celebrating with a fourteen
point lead and the ball and with like five and
a half minutes to go, and it was a little
too early. Yeah, it really was. All right, Hey, we've
got to take another break. You're listening to the Tri
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Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Welcome back to the Tri States
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your host Chick Ludwig and Bruce Kazerski talking Bengals football.
They fall forty seven to forty two to the Chicago
Bears after last week's thirty nine to thirty eight loss

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at home to the Jets. You just cannot lose home
games like this. Bruce, and let's check the Guilty Windows
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Joe Flacco pulling the Bengals, and the two point conversion
to t Higgins pulling the Bengals within forty one to
thirty five with a minute forty three to go. It
came down to definitely needing the on side kick conversion,
and the Bengals got it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
They got it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
The ball did not go ten yards, but it hit
the ankle in the foot of a Chicago Bear and
the Bengals jumped on it. What a pile I mean,
it was about eight feet high with bodies unscramble it.
The Bengals are on it, and they took advantage. That
was their window of opportunity right there, and Joe Flacco

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his fourth touchdown pass of the day, a nine yarder
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Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
I left the stadium last week with ten and a
half minutes up by fourteen. We lost. By the time
I got to the car, I left with five minutes
and we were down by that many points. I get
to the parking lot and you could just barely see
the jumbo drawing whatever's left. The crowd in the stadium roars.
We scored a touchdown, make it six points right, we

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on side kicked. They're going nuts again. Then we scored
another touchdown. Said, I missed the entire game. I ship,
you know, in the last five minutes. I missed the
entire football game. And you know, we just saw those
plays about the big screen here and it's like any
time the last play, the tight end down the middle,
two guys our two safeties at same time. Instead of

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rapping they just hit him. Now maybe he catches it.
They tackle him right there and they kick a field
goal to win the game. You know what, That's a
better way to go out than what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Yes, it's amazing that you that were talking about this,
because when I was on the beat, they would you know,
open up the uh you know, they would make an
announcement in the press box. The elevator, you like, with
five minutes to go, elevator, you get trapped in that elevator.
You miss the final two three, four minutes of the game.

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When it's decided that I and I quit going down
early because you miss so much. And I said, I'll
wait until I know that the game is going to end,
you know, And they send the elevator back up, and
that's when we could get on the field the final
couple minutes of a game. And really before or they
stand in the tunnel. Sure, yeah, before nine to eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Really yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Know, and then nobody was allowed on the field. So
and you know this to Bruce the final quarter of
a game and you're the end of the game. The
speed of the game just heightens. Yeah, and it seems
to last forever. Yes, yeah, seems at last five minutes,
it felt like an.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Hour, an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
It was brutal, brutal. It just was incredible. But the
speed of the game is uh, it was shock fans
to be up that close seeing how fast it is.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
All the weeks, my son picked me up the same spot.
We're standing on the corner waiting for him to come
on and pick us up. Last week, you're saying, you're
not gonna believe it. You're not gonna believe it, You're
not gonna believe it. This week he calls me him,
you're not gonna believe this one. We came back, we
got onside kick, we scored another touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
We're leading, My guys, yeah, my guys. Crazy. Hey. Just
a reminder for fans out there, the postgame sports talk
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can depend on. Let's go out to the phones. We've
got Don in Cincinnati. Don are you there.

Speaker 11 (01:26:08):
I'm on yes, yes, Don, Yeah, yeah, yeah from Nashville.
But you said Cincinnati. But okay, Yeah, I just want
to say thanks to taking my call here. But I
really am really concerned about what's going on with the

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Bengals right now. When it comes to the defense. I
don't think this is an easy stake.

Speaker 10 (01:26:34):
I we don't.

Speaker 11 (01:26:35):
I think we really need to. We look at, you know,
far the schemes and and players we got playing in
this particular scheme that got going on right now, we
look at it. I look at Battle. I don't know
what's going on with him. The stuff he's doing right
now is no way he did that if he was
playing for Nick Satan.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Yeah, absolutely he was.

Speaker 11 (01:26:58):
He be playing you know, Nick State were having him
out so quick he wouldn't even know he was on
the team. And my point is, why are we assessing
players playing like this? If they're gonna play, It's like
people have there making business decisions.

Speaker 12 (01:27:12):
You know what business decisions mean.

Speaker 11 (01:27:15):
That means they're trying not to get hurt.

Speaker 10 (01:27:17):
They don't.

Speaker 11 (01:27:17):
They're not trying to play at all effort.

Speaker 10 (01:27:19):
That's just sounding. They make businesses on defense because they.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
Ain't trying to.

Speaker 11 (01:27:25):
No, no, no, they ain't joining one. I mean telling and
and and again. You know when look get the offense.
I don't know why people call him out the offense.
I don't know what else he can have on the offense.
I just don't offense is playing. I mean, seriously, Joe
Black though, are these kids? That dude is amazing right now?
And and we are more and we are making him

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look like I'm Please, don't bring Joe back. Don't blame
Joe back. If we take it the defense six, it
makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Get hurt again. Ye were fifty two points to win.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Hey John, we've got to run. Appreciate you venting. Thanks
thanks so much. Where does this team and we'll get
to Matt. We've got Matt, We've got Ron, We've got
Chad and others. We will get to you after the
top of the hour break. But but Bruce Kozerski, where

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does this team go from here?

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
I can tell you they're not. They can't make wholesale
changes because they are what they are at this point.
At this point, the concrete has been laid. All they
can do is continue to work schematically, maybe fix some
weaknesses with the scheme. If there is a if there
is a way. If there's not, then you're just gonna
have to outscore people. And and this is this is
the league that will exploit every weakness you have. They

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see you on film as much as you see yourself
on film, and they're going to study the Bengals defense.
They're going to tear it apart week in and week out.
Unless we fix or change some things, you can't be
You can't make too many personnel changes. There's no there's
no great bank of all Americans gonna come in here
and make them better overnight.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
No, they're relying on young players, and they're giving them
experience and they're getting lit up.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Well, you know, we talked about this a little bit
off the air, little Wago chick. Young players are gonna
make mistakes. You're gonna have blown coverage here and there.
But young players tackle too. Just like the last caller
was talking about not being able to get away with
that kind of tackling for for Alabama. He's right, one
hundred percent correct. You know, these guys are drafted because
they were good tacklers, because they were great football player

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and it's just not coming out right now, and somehow
that's got to change. They gonna look, They're gonna lookt
They're gonna look at themselves in the mirror and say,
I gotta fix my problem before we fix our problem.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
We're live at Wings and Rings in Oakley on Factory
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Chevy Dealers Post Game Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers.
He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig. We're breaking down
the Bengals forty seven of the forty two loss to
the Chicago Bears today like a wrecking ball. A lot
of Chicago Bears fans in here tonight. Man, They're going

(01:31:25):
crazy and I'm going around congratulating them, and the Bengals
are making A star is born in Caleb Williams. It
is the Bengals fault.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Well that somebody has to play the Bengals, That's exactly
we might as well, you know, promote the league.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
That's that's exactly right. Oh man. He did look like, hey,
he's the first overall pick. He looked like he was
playing for USC.

Speaker 7 (01:31:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
He was the best game of his career.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Man, fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
I've seen that a lot in Cincinnati. I've seen that.

Speaker 19 (01:31:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
I was there with Brett fall took his Like you said,
we talked about this a little bit earlier. Brett Favre
made his showing against the Bengals. And that's the way
the game is. You never know, you never know. These
young guys step out of the closet and all of
a sudden there's superstars. They've been waiting, wait and waiting.
They get their chance and before you know it, all
of a sudden and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
All Brett fav did was start like the next time.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
The next five games and when yeah, four thousand of them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And Post Game Sports talking with
in part by Ae Jordan Window Company. They sell the
best and service the rest. Matt in Springfield has been
waiting a while, Matt, how are we doing tonight?

Speaker 6 (01:32:35):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
Shick as always? Brother?

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
How you doing man? Thank you very much? Matt. Uh
you know what I'm gonna drive home, and yeah, it's frustrating,
but I'm like, gosh, I almost feel like a player.
I'm getting paid for this, so uh gosh, I can't complain.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
Would you say about football and radio? You know, bad football.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Making bad football makes for great radio and no one
out pieces of the Hut and no one out Bungles
the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
They're currently in for sure, and we hope that they
get out of it quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
And Mike Brown likes to say the ox cart is
stuck in the ditch. Yes, what's on your mind?

Speaker 15 (01:33:21):
I have done at that game?

Speaker 9 (01:33:22):
Man?

Speaker 12 (01:33:22):
I was done at that game.

Speaker 15 (01:33:23):
Less Il gets the Jets, And when the Jets started
getting close in that fourth quarter, I was like, you
know they're gonna blow this, aren't they sure enough? What's
gonna happen?

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Man?

Speaker 15 (01:33:30):
It really feels like we are back to the days
of the Bungles man, where you just know at any
moment they are going to snatch defeat from the jaws
of victory. To be honest, though, uh, let's be real today,
they really had no business even being anywhere close in
that game. To be honest, there was some questionable officiating
late in that game in favor of the Bengals shockingly. Uh,

(01:33:54):
because honestly, that was that was a blowout. Honestly, when
the Bears have that pick six, I don't I don't
even know why they got called back what they did
or whatever.

Speaker 12 (01:34:02):
I forget, but.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:34:09):
That was still a lot closer than what it should
have been.

Speaker 8 (01:34:11):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:34:12):
And honestly, it's just so many mistakes this team continues
to make lining up all sides, I mean, and the
lysis continues to go on and on and on, and
you can see the offensive players after the game. They're
starting to really get, you know, kicked off of this defense.
This defense is literally look if you have to spear
the defense at this point, if you score three quick,

(01:34:32):
I'm fifty eight seconds, Come on, man, fifty eight that
that should have been game. That should have been confidentals.
I mean, come on, especially with the way their kicker
was kicking today. You know, he was kind of shaking,
so that should have.

Speaker 6 (01:34:43):
Been a game.

Speaker 15 (01:34:44):
But I mean, we.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Three rushing yards to the Bengals forty six. Yeah, are
you kidding me?

Speaker 12 (01:34:55):
To a backup a seventh rounder?

Speaker 15 (01:34:57):
Yeah, he was like a seventh round, seventh.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Rounder from from well what was that Rotger sixth pick
or sixth pick from the from to Denver Davis.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
He turned out to be pretty good too. Yes, this this, Yeah,
he may turn out to be a superstar in this league.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
No kidding, well, I Saya Pacheco was the seventh rounder
for kid.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Who did the mega star today Williams or this new
running back?

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Oh both really? Yeah? Yeah? Deontay Davis is out injury
their number one running back. This guy, man, he took
advantage of his operation.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
That's the reason you don't take it a week off
in the NFL, because someone will step in and take
your job.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
You're exactly right, man.

Speaker 15 (01:35:38):
One last bad for Joe, Yeah, real quick, and it
really it feels like it's a repeat of last season.
Just another Joe, you know, putting lipstick up against just
literally the same thing, all the points in the world.
But if you don't have a defense to stop it.
On the other side, it doesn't really matter how many
points you put up. You could put up fifty, sixty, seventy.
I mean, if you have no defense, guess what, You're

(01:35:59):
gonna lose pretty much ninety percent of the time. But
I don't know, it might be time to start dumping
some pieces like dre and logan and shooting all some pieces. Man,
It's just.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Think about how much misery the water cooler would be
if Joe Flecco hadn't been scoring all those points. I mean,
honest in goodness, it could be forty two to or
forty seven to fourteen. Yes, the game could be over
in the first half.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Hey, really really appreciate the call, Matt, Thank you very much. UH.
Let's review today's Postman Law injury report, brought to you
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Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
That's a big one.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
And he went down with a leg ankle floating injury, okay,
and he was down in big time pain. And then
he pops up and like jogs off the field. That's
how tough he is.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
And then it hit the bench right in front of
us and collapse again.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
Collapsed and headed to the uh and he was out
for the rest of the game. Uh. Demitrius Knight at
one point went into the locker room. I don't know
if he came back or not.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
Did not did not say that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
But really, other than that, egos, a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Of egos and a lot of egos that have to
set on it. Yes, they got to set on it
for a week, week and a half now.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
And that's today's Postman Law Injury Report, brought to you
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promised Postman delivers. Let's go out to the phones and
welcome in Ron and Milford.

Speaker 16 (01:37:39):
If you're still there, Ron, Hey, guys, I'm still How
are you guys doing?

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Okay, Sorry, we're hanging in.

Speaker 16 (01:37:48):
Have have to, you know, prolong this conversation after this loss.
But my question is when they draft guys, do they
give him an IQ test?

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Well? And I hes to get a the wonder Lick
test at the combine?

Speaker 16 (01:38:05):
Yeah, so because you know when they lined up off
sides on that.

Speaker 8 (01:38:10):
Fielgal or the extra point in the field.

Speaker 16 (01:38:14):
Goal, Yes, yeah, and gave him I think they gave
him seven points. I mean, how how hard is it
to know the line of scrimmage?

Speaker 12 (01:38:23):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 16 (01:38:26):
To see our defense, uh, defensive players not covering their gap.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
It's like it was there a defensive lineman, it was
a defensive back and they're very seldom ever run the line.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
That's exactly right. He's lined up, he's got he's on
all fours on the very far left end, and he
is way over the line of scri.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Got to know it. I mean, you're looking if you
turn your head the three degrees that there right, you're
looking right at the ball. You shouldn't be there.

Speaker 16 (01:38:55):
Well maybe if he's too stupid, the defensive line coast
should run down every time and look down that line
and say, hey man, you're offside.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (01:39:06):
And before I go on Candoe's sister, the Trumpet family.
But uh, the opening kickoff, was I the only one
waiting for them to say, there's.

Speaker 12 (01:39:15):
A flag on the five yard line?

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
Waiting ever expected? You expect it in the league. That's
the way the league is anymore. We're just that there
wasn't one and it was a great return.

Speaker 16 (01:39:28):
Well, I don't know where we go from here, man. Uh,
lou An Arumo was apparently not the problem. I think
we got a bunch of idiots that needed IQ tests
on defense. And uh, after watching the free safety just
try to blow people up, not wrap up.

Speaker 10 (01:39:46):
How many times has he been coached?

Speaker 12 (01:39:47):
Hey wrap up?

Speaker 11 (01:39:49):
Uh?

Speaker 12 (01:39:50):
You know it's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
And all right, Ron, we've got to run we've got
to run. Thank you for the call.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
If you continually do the same thing over and over
and over and expect different results, there's a name for that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Yes, Well, let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today.
Who brought to you by Cincy by coversincey dot com,
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Williams passed for two hundred and eighty yards and three touchdowns.

(01:40:23):
He caught a touchdown pass, and he ran for over
fifty yards. So all the the top tacklers on the
Bengals were all defensive defensive backs and one linebacker in
that group. And the coverage was not good.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
It's what soft shell coveroags they're playing. It takes me
back to the Jets a week ago. The first quarter
they played great defense, got two score lead, and it
looked like they went into a soft shell prevent. But
that looked like the same thing all all week today,
all day today. You know, we were getting pressure on

(01:41:06):
Caleb Williams, but when he when he broke contained or
got out of the pocket, he had eight seconds, nine
seconds at times to throw. You can't cover NFL receivers
for that long. A time in zones, you can't stay
with him in man's that long, and so.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
You gotta you gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
If you're gonna get to the quarterback, you gotta do
it three to four seconds at.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
Most, and we weren't getting there.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
We flushed him a few times, but you can't cover
him that long, and sometimes he was just dropping back
and throwing it and they were wide open anyway. Yes,
so what's the what's the solution? Somewhere in between, take
a shot, play some man, go get the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
This used to happen Bruce in the press box, Todd
Archer wrote for Missions at Post Now he's ESPN covering
the Cowboys and he's been there for years. Great guy
and a terrific rider and a good friend. He would
play the calliope and David Folter would be sitting there,

(01:42:05):
you know, a row or two behind us, and he
would get very angry when he heard the calliope because
as a Bengal alum sitting up there watching mistakes, it
wasn't pretty. Yeah, and I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Very comfortable talking about it, but what else can you say, chick?
You know, we're tired of we're tired of seeing it
and as an alumni, just like David was, and just
like all the alumni are tired of watching Mike Martin
called in today, tired of seeing the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
And it's like boss would call me or I would
call my boss, you know, near the end of the game.
What do you got coming? Okay, I've got a gamer
and notebook and sidebar, and this is what I'm going
to kind of concentrate on. And what does Arch or
Gary have? Are two columnists? Yea, and I said, and
I would always say a general debacle column, just a

(01:42:59):
general just how they lost, Just the general debacle column.
So that's what it's flu boy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Right now. You know, you think about we have the
best offensive weapons in football, we do, and they're playing
at their highest level, and we just we can't play
defense mediocre level.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
And the faster the Bengals score, the quicker the defenses
back out on the field. And that's what's said. It
is just they throw them all to our receivers.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
They're liable to go for.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
A touch at any time, That's exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
And so you can't say, well, we're going to take
eight minutes off the clock right now.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
You're right, yeah, And it started so well with Chuck
Sizzle Charlie Jones with the ninety eight yard kickoff return,
kickoff return, But then it ended so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
I think the special teams played their best game of
the year. Yes, with the exception of jumping off side
or being in the neutral zone on that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
Field goal, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
But how big a play was that? Oh huge? It
cost the Bengals seven points.

Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
And then the personal foul that cost the Bengals potentially touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Again touchdown, yes, yeah, because we take over. The Bengals
take over where the guy missed the field goal and
yet gives them a fresh set of downs and they
go down and score that could have Oh talk about
momentum swings big big and let's go out to the phones.

(01:44:34):
Rick in Dallas. You're taking us home.

Speaker 18 (01:44:36):
Here, uh hell yeah, Eric, yes, yes, something about here
about mom Trump?

Speaker 25 (01:44:45):
You know that by I remember, uh, I remember when
he talked to Sugar.

Speaker 12 (01:44:50):
I was at an.

Speaker 25 (01:44:50):
Air Force by get up to the right, Patterson and
I used to listen to the.

Speaker 19 (01:44:54):
Sports talk every night.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 25 (01:44:57):
What what show up? You had that on there and
I listening to that whole thing. Well, he's saying that,
you know, he you know he tried to say.

Speaker 12 (01:45:05):
That young lady's life.

Speaker 26 (01:45:07):
Yeah, and what's what then we're talking about you know something?
You know I said, I found a real uh uh
spot if at the college football You know that that
and it's showing up that you see, it's showing up
that you see yesterday.

Speaker 10 (01:45:28):
You know what the problem with that?

Speaker 4 (01:45:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Hey, Rick, uh, you're talking about the portal. I'm sorry,
I have to cut you off because we are we're closing.
We're shutting it down here, We're we're closing it out
of time. Hey, I'm hosting sports talk on Saturday night.
Please call me back. I will get you on. And
we were talking about the defensive secondary Bruce and the

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