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November 12, 2025 32 mins
On this abbreviated show, Lance talks with FC Cincy's Nick Hagglund about the club's playoff victory over Columbus, and comments on Reds and Bengals topics.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Sorry, let's get to it. Seven eight seven hundred WLW.
Welcome in RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet.
I'm Liance Pacanist. I'm like the middle of the sandwich tonight.
I follow Red's hot stove. I lead you into the
Scott Saderfield Show. That means one hour of sports talk.
We've got ground to cover, not much time to do it.
Let's get to it. Let's start with this. Let me

(00:45):
take you back to Saturday night at TQL. This is
how it sounded in the final few seconds into the midfield,
Powell will touch How long will Chris Pencil let it go?
There's your nine minutes Powell into the Night's there it
bounces across the midfield.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Hey, full time, whistless. Cincinnati defeat Columbus and they are
dancing in the bailey tonight. Ohio is orange and blue.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Tommy g with the call. Listen to that crowd. FC
Cincinnati rallied beat Columbus to advance in the MLS Cup playoffs.
They now face enter Miami CF a week from Sunday
at TQL and MLS Cup Conference semi Final Action. Two
weeks ago. My first guest tonight was named MLS Comeback
Player of the Year. Represented the Orange and Blue friend.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Always good to spend a few minutes with him. Let's
welcome in, Nick Hagland.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
How are you.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm doing great, Lace, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
It is a great catching up. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think back and getting ready for this tonight. I
was visualizing you running towards the bailey, you climb into
the stands Saturday, you're celebrating with him, and it just
felt like a culdred of emotions for you, of beating
a rival, of advancing in the playoffs, of coming back
from all those injuries, having missed two years ago. In
that matchup against Columbus, there had to be a lot

(02:09):
flowing through you at that moment.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
One hundred percent you nailed it. I mean there was,
you know, several different things going through my head. One
beginning of the year, I would have never imagined being
able to play this many games this year, then being
able to be in the playoffs and starting you know,
we didn't make we didn't make it past the first
round last year, and two years ago we lost the Columbus.
So being a part of this, all of it. Getting

(02:32):
to celebrate with the fans was just an awesome night.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
You used words like grit and response after the match.
You guys are down one to nothing second half. Talk
to me about the grit and response, and I think
you alluded to this being a club that is built
for moments like that.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, I think it would have been easy for us
to put our heads down when the goal happened. But
after it happened, I kind of looked at that everyone
and was.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Like, look, we can do this.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
We're we'd we'd been playing well all night and obviously
it was one play which I believe was off side,
but they didn't call it. And for me, we you know, together,
we we decided to you know, keep fighting, keep battling,
and within four minutes we got to go back.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Brenner scores in the eighty six minute you go up.
And then nine minutes of I'll never forget Tommy, Tommy
g on the on the radio call saying and it's official.
Nine minutes of stopping time, And I'm thinking nine minutes
and I swear my watch stopped. And it just proceeded
to drag and drag and drag what's it like in
your mind in real time working with nine minutes of

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stoppage time?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, I mean you want to when the board goes up,
especially when you're winning, you want the number to be low.
Nine minutes was nine minutes was a lot. But again
I said that this club was built for this because
we had been in so many one zero games all
year and had been able to close them out. And
I think, you know, even though was an onslot, we

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had a Vander who's usually attacking it up in the
up in the field, he's all the way in the
back line defending with us their goalkeeper of that half field.
We were prepared to like take whatever on for as
long as we needed to to get the win.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Brenner with the brace the game winner, and what we
talk about a club being built for the moment, he
seems to live for moments like that. How big has
he been for this club this year?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Oh, he's been so important since he's came in, just
his energy, his connection with the Vander and Kevin up there.
He you know, when he left, he kind of left
on bad terms and came back a different player who
I feel like has appreciated what the club has to offer,
and you know his energy and his creativity, the type

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of player he is helps everyone be great.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
There's always great satisfaction and eliminating a rival. I would
think part of Pat's message since is the kind of
the cloche. There's bigger fish to fry here.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Absolutely, absolutely, it's you enjoy your moments, enjoy your couple
of days of reading the news and people reaching out
to you and whatnot, and then it's time to move
on to the next one. Because the goal wasn't to
just beat Columbus in the playoffs, it was to win
MLS Cup.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Two weeks ago, you're named MLS Comeback Player of the Year,
voted on by the MLS club, technical staff, the media,
the players. It's had some time to sink in. You'll
probably appreciate it more in the off season when you're
not working on games. But what does it mean in
the moment knowing you're the MLS Comeback Player the Year
voted on by peers.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I mean for me, I feel like this is an
award that is a reflection of all the people that
are around me. You know, I couldn't have done it
without my wife and my kids, and the staff, the
medical staff, and you know, all the fans that were
cheering me on when I got hurt, They're like, we're
going to see you come back. I think there's a
reflection of all the people that were around me pushing

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me to continue on, to believe in me, and it's
it was just so cool because at the beginning of
the year I really didn't think I was I told Mary,
I would have been happy to be subbed in for
like ten minutes for one game and be like, yeah,
that was it.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
What's it like?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
And I've always I've talked with athletes over the years
who when they're going through the injury process and the
rehab process, just the sense of being alone or detached
from teammates for so many moments where it's just you
and the grind. What's it? How do you get through
stuff like that?

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
For me, it feels like, you know, playing soccer isn't
the goal you know every day, If you just like
put that in front of you, like I'm going to
be back to who I was before the injury, and
you think about that all the time, I think it
puts this unnecessary pressure on yourself. For me, it was
like making these like mini goals every day to like
get a little bit better or see a little bit
of improvement here or there, or maybe it takes a

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couple of days to see the improvement. And these little
like milestones, these little markers. I feel like you take
every day, one one thing at a time, and that
helps you get to your end result.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I had your general manager, Chris Albright on the show
about ten days or so ago and and ask him
about you and winning the award and your comeback. Take
a listen to what he said. Here's a general manager,
Chris Albright.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
That's great.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Nick is so deserving of all the success accolades the
way that people talk about him. He's an integral part
to the to the culture, the kind of heartbeat of
the club, A player that when I first saw to
when I arrived about four years ago, I knew he
was going to be a part of our plans. And
he really is an extension of myself, the coaches down
there in the locker room, you know, helps helps get

(07:35):
across exactly what we're trying to achieve. And really happy
to see him score the other night in front of
his family and his hometown.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, Nick, I hear him use words like culture and
heartbeat and extension and and man, that's got to mean
a lot to you. And I hear him describe it,
and what a perfect marriage you with them and then
with you.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, no, it is honestly for me, there's nothing more
than I want them this club to succeed. And being
able to put everyone on the right the right page,
from from top to bottom, from the general manager to
the players to the staff. Being able to you know,
help everyone out in some regard to create this culture

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that is a winning culture is incredibly important to me.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
And so.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
That's really nice to hear. Well.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I remember we talked back in Uh, this would have
been around May. After the injury in Atlanta. Your hospitalized
for ten days there, the two fractured ribs, the collapse
along your your family was scared to death, Your kids
were scared to death. Your your wife dropped him off
with the grandparents. She flies to Atlanta to be with you.
How's how's the family doing these days? And do they
still call you rib boy?

Speaker 4 (08:44):
They still call me rib boy? I often I also
I often get threatened by my daughters if I do
something wrong. They're like, I'm gonna get you.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
But they're all good.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
They're very happy. They've been enjoying watching me play, and
they enjoy enjoyed eve in the stadium watching the Columbus
Crew games that we just had this weekend. So they've
been enjoying the process.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
That is awesome.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Hey, I'm really happy for you. Congrats on all things,
just the health, the success, the team success, your success.
I can hear in your voice how much it means,
and keep this thing rolling in. Best of luck and
always enjoy our conversation.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Thank you so much, appreciate it, Lance.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Take care all right, there you go.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Nick Haglin, FC Cincinnati defender, your MLS comeback Player of
the Year. By the way, that award, winning that award
and what he went through came up in our lunch
conversation today and I wanted to bring it up with
you as we continue because it got me thinking and
was rolling through a lot of different names that have

(09:49):
come through this city over the years athletically and injuries
and comebacks. We'll do that and more. Thanks for being
here tonight, hang on, we gotta go. Got till eight.
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(10:11):
Hope yet at least a manageable Wednesday afternoon. Thanks for
making your way here. I get you till eight. Scott
Satderfield Show. After that, here's some headlines. Bengals back on
the practice field today getting ready for the Steelers on Sunday.
Zach Taylor says Trey Hendrickson is doubtful this week, listed
on the injury report with a hip issue and now
a pelvis issue. So hip pelvis the designation on the
injury report. Shamar Stewart listed as week or Zach saying

(10:35):
today week to week they'll see just like Bear's week.
Joe Flacco didn't throw today, he will throw tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
He said.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
The shoulder feels good after the rest. Zach also said
he thought Joe Burrow looks sharp, really sharp. On Monday.
You'll hear more on that a little bit later. On
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(11:04):
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(11:27):
the class of twenty twenty six. According to twenty four
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Baseball Today, the Reds claimed catcher Ben Rortvett off waivers
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(11:51):
Bay Rays. He was part of the three way trade
that eventually sent Zach Lttel to the Reds. He appeared
in both NL Wildcard games again the Reds. Catching for
the Dodgers. In two games in the NDS against the Phillies,
he hit for twenty nine in seven at bats. Twenty
eight years old, left handed hitting a catcher. Four years
in the big leagues, two hundred and twenty seven games,

(12:12):
one ninety career average. Think insurance in depth at the
catching position. Hockey Cyclones dropped a three to two morning
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(12:33):
Hill's senior lacrosse player Lauren Christy, she signed with my
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get to see her play within a couple hours of home.
Congrats on that. Those are your headlines, all right. I
want to mention Nick and how Nick came up in
our lunch conversation today. I mentioned Nick Haglin of FC
Cincinnati hometown kid, Xavier Kid, Lakota Kid one MLS Comeback

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Player of the Year. I understand what he's come back from.
In June of last year, he suffered a fractured fibula,
torn ligaments and torn tendons and courtilage damage in his ankle.
He started a two hundred and fifty day rehab process

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and he returned to the pitch the field in March,
and then in May he suffered two fractured ribs and
a collapsed lung in Atlanta. It was so bad he
could not fly back with the team. He was hospitalized
in Atlanta for ten days. He told me they had

(13:39):
to pop a rib back into place it had been
bent in and they had to pop it out.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
He came back from all of.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
That, and you could see by if you were watching,
the look on his face Saturday night as he ran
to the end where the bailey is and climbed into
the stands and celebrated with the crowd, how much that
moment meant to him. And we were talking about that
today at lunch, and this came up, and it was

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the idea of the Cincinnati athletes who have authored the
greatest injury comebacks in this city sports history.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Nick certainly in the.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Conversation the name I submitted today at lunch, and I
don't know how anybody whatever top this is Jose Rio.
Jose Rio, at the age of thirty seven, returned to
the big leagues after a five year absence, three Tommy
John surgeries and a total of five elbow surgeries. He

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missed the nineteen ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety
nine baseball seasons. He came back in two thousand and one.
He missed the two thousand season as well. Came back
in two thousand and one in August. In fact, doctor
James Andrews did the surgery and there was no There
was really no ligament to attach to the two bones,

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so he kind of winged it and it. A medical
director at the time, Tim Kremchek, said he had to
find a strand of ligament, a strand of tendon, anything
he could find in there that would stay together, and
heal uh dot. Kremchek called it biblical what happened. Jim Bowden,
the Reds general manager at the time, said, if the
if the Good Lord's going to bless someone, give someone

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a miracle, he's going to pick someone like Jose Rio.
Rio represents the word perseverance better than anyone in baseball
probably ever in the game.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Five seasons missed.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
And Jose Rio made it back to the He had
been retired so long, he made it on the Hall
of Fame ballot, and then came back to the big
leagues after all of that. I would submit that is
the greatest injury comeback by Cincinnati, Cincinnati athlete in Cincinnati

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sports history. That was our conversation today at lunch. We
kicked arounds a pretty good name. I got another one
I will submit. Will we continue, and I'll welcome you
into the mix. If you want to jump into this
while I have some time, you're gonna hear from Zach
Taylor still ahead. I got a little bit of reds
to get to, but maybe a name to add to
the list of the greatest injury comebacks by athletes around
here over the years. Pretty good company if if we're

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starting with Nick Haglin and Jose Reel on that list.
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Speaker 3 (16:50):
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from Long Necks in Hebron tomorrow night. We were talking
about Nick Haglan winning MLS Comeback Player of the Year
and how that became a conversation at lunch today about
the greatest injury comebacks by athletes in Cincinnati sports history.

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And I would find it hard, if not impossible, to
find somebody who tops Jose Rio, who missed five seasons,
five major league seasons, and after three Tommy John surgeries
and five total elbow surgeries, came back at the age
of thirty seven, and in that two thousand and one season,
he pitched thirteen games in relief, had an urn run

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average of two thirteen, and because he pitched so well,
he decided he couldn't walk away from the game. The
original thought was, I just want to make it back
proven to myself I can pitch well. He came back
and proved he could pitch, and then thought, well, maybe
I can keep doing it. So he went to spring
training the following year, made the roster, and in April
of two thousand and two, he took the mound as

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a starter. Never forget the night at Synergy. He had
gone seven years between major league starts and wins, seven years.
He beat the Cubs five innings, no earned runs.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
No.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Actually, that game, I'm thinking about it. That game was
at or was it at Wrigley Now I'm trying to
I think it was at home because I remember him,
you know, maybe he was tipping his cap in his
initial return. I think the start was at regularly if
I remember, he made thirty one appearances that year in
two thousand and two and then called it a career.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
After that, you knew also, I had put in the conversation.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
He came up at lunch today and I can make
strong support for maybe pushing him higher. I don't even
know third does justice to what he went through. Tim
Krumrae broke his tibia and fhibula on the seventh snap
of the Super Bowl. They then inserted a fifteen inch
steel rod into his leg to stabilize. Less than three

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months later, he was ready for the opener and played
every game that season. Fifteen inch steel rod in the
leg played six more years, total of one hundred and
eighty eight consecutive games played in with the Bengals. You'd

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have to put King Griffey Junior on that list. I
mean what and for You could pick a variety of injuries.
I think front and center. First and foremost would be
two thousand and four spring training. He's rounding third and
he tears the hamstring off, the bone, off the bone,
and Dot Krem had to reattach it and he was

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on that little wheelie, one knee up on the pad
and wheeling himself around in his recovery. Came back the
next year, hit three to ZHO one with thirty five
homers ninety two ribis and got MVP votes.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
The next season.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I'd put Eric Davis in the conversation one going back
to the World Series nineteen ninety the lacerated kidney comes
back from that, had a really tough time for the
next two He played the next year, appeared in eighty
nine games. I think it was that maybe seventy. The
next year it was rough and then of all things
went through it again, battled colon cancer. Missed the ninety

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five season, beat that came back, hit twenty three homers,
stole twenty six bases, and was comeback Player of the Year.
I'd put Johnny Bench on this list. In nineteen seventy two,
Johnny ben She was twenty four years old. He just
won his second MVP at the age of twenty four.

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He'd already won his second MVP seventy and seventy two,
and in that offseason had surgery after it was discovered
in a routine team physical that he had a spot
on his right lung. Turned out to be non cancerous,
but they had to remove it. Had surgery after that
seventy two season, after winning the MVP, and it was
at the time an experimental procedure and it involved like

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cutting muscles and nerves and bone. And he has always
said he wondered if he'd ever play again, and has
always thought it changed his career. Still went on to
be a Hall of Fame catcher, but now he played
after all that that surgery. He played at one hundred
and fifty two games the next season. I had looked
that up in double check it. Today, I would put

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tj in Tone on this list. One, two, three surgeries,
Tommy John surgeries.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Who makes it back after a second.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
He made it back, pitched then tore it again, and
he was rehabbing last season, pitched at a ball double
A and triple A with the dream and the goal
being to get back to the major leagues. I put
Eralda's Chapman on that list. Roaldas Chapman came back from
a line drive off his face. I will never forget

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listening to that spring training broadcast. It was against the
Kansas City Royals, and Salvador Perez was at the plate
and Eroldis Chapman threw a ninety nine mile an hour
pitch that Salvodor Perez absolutely crushed a liner right back
up the box and it hit Eroaldas Chapman above the
left eye. Fractured the orbital bone. Concussion. Game was called

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happened in the sixth inning and the sound even through
the radio. In Murdy's reaction to it, I will never
forget they called the game. Titanium plate inserted above his
left eye, made it back to pitch in May of
that year, and still amazingly going strong at thirty seven.

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You know, he made sixty seven appearances last year and
had an earned run average of one seventeen. Still fired,
the missile still launching at age thirty seven. I put
Carson Palmer on this list of great injury comebacks two
thousand and five Playoffs, his first pass of the day,
Chris Henry up the sideline and we know that the
knee and what was shredded, just shredded. He was twenty

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six at the time. It signed a nine year, one
hundred and eighteen million dollars deal. I'll never forget him
being on the cover of one of the coolest sports
illustrated covers. In the rehab pool, the shot of him underwater,
his head above the water, the rest of his body,
the clear shot through the water of him rehabbing came
back through for four thousand yards. The next season, twenty

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eight touchdowns and made the Pro Bowl, and you can't
leave Joe Burrow off the list for goodness sakes. Joe
Burrow's wrist injury led to a surgery that had never
been done on a quarterback and came back last season
and did what he did. Some of the names that
came up today on our conversation on the heels of

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Nick Aglin being named MLS Comeback Player of the Year
for some of the great injury comebacks in Cincinnati sports history.
Zach Taylor spoke earlier today in advance of Bengals and
Steelers on Wednesday. We'll talk plenty about it tomorrow night
on the Roundtable Show. A couple of things Zach said
today caught my ear maybe of interest to you. Zach
was asked about Joe Burrow on Monday throwing, and this

(24:43):
was prior to today's practice. Here's Zach assessing what he saw
from Joe burrowing.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Joe Burrow on Monday really sharp. You know, I had
not watched him throw. He'd been doing that with the trainer,
So seeing him live on Monday get a chance to
do that, I was I'm not gonna say I'm impressed
because That's that's how it always looks. But he was
really sharp. Didn't look like he had been coming off
an injury. I mean, did how much how much could
you tell? No, not from a Thrones perspective, I mean

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everything was in the pocket. There wasn't It wasn't eleven
on eleven, so he wasn't required to move. He did
normal movements through the ball nice and so for now,
that's just that's where we're at. You know, like I said,
we're not doing any eleven on eleven. We'll have a
really good progression plan for him as part of his
rehab and we'll go from there. You don't have an
idea of when you want to start eleven on eleven.
We'll just get through this week and then figure out
what next week holds. But we internally we got a

(25:32):
good plan in place. We'll just keep working through that.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Zach Taylor earlier today talking about Joe Burrow and how
he looked in practice on Monday. Also, the question of
the young rookie linebackers came up today. They have traded
Logan Wilson. That clears fully clear's playing time. It clears
room in the room for young voices to be heard
as developing leaders. Zach was asked what he hopes to

(25:57):
see now going forward out of both Barrett Carter and
Dimitri's Night Junior, here is the coach.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
Keep gaining experience from the reps they're getting. I don't
think that the trade has anything to do with that.
You know their position and where they're at. Just keep learning.
They're going to make mistakes the times they're sol to
react to something. Let that be the one time it happens,
you know, and learn from that one, put it behind you,
and continue to grow. And I expect full those guys
continue to do that.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I know Barrett has talked about Warren so as Dimitrice,
what kind of impact leadership does.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Yeah, he's been around a lot of winning teams. You know,
he's played countless NFC championship games. So I think he's
been a really good resource for that room as especially
right now, the veteran in the room, him and Joe
Giles Harris have got great experience. They've done a great
job mentoring those guys, doing a good job with the
roles that they're playing, and so I'm glad to have one.

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I think he's done an excellent job just helping outside
of the coaches develop those those young linebackers that we have.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Zach Taylor on the back end of that talking about
Orrin Burks, the freeg of linebacker formerly of the Super
Bowl winning Eagles, and final thought from what Zach said
today of note, you'll hear more from Dan Horde in
a matter of minutes. At eight o'clock on the Scott
Centerfield Show, Dan asked Zach about the state of the
offensive line and if he believes the old line is

(27:15):
trending in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Here's the coach.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
I think that they're trending out. You know, if has
this ability at center, in the two tackle spots, and
then you get the two young guards that are ascending
and learning a lot really fast. This is a huge
challenge for them. You know, this game in a lot
of ways, goes as they go. It's a tremendous front
that pittsfordh has it a lot of times comes down
to the trenches in this one and especially on the road.

(27:40):
Silent cadence, the advantages that that creates for them, and
so we have to do a great job. They need
to continue to trend upwards in a game like this.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Zach Taylor earlier today. I just thought of while that
SoundBite was being played. Two other candidates for our list
of the greatest injury comeback by Cincinnati athletes Ron Gant.
Ron Gant, he tore up his leg knee and broke
his leg in an ATV accident in the ninety four offseason.
With the ninety three offseason, I guess with the Atlanta

(28:09):
Braves they released him. Jim Bowden swooped in and signed
him and said, I'm gonna rehab you.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I'm gonna get you up to speed.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm gonna pay you a salary to do that, and
then i want you ready for ninety five. And Gant
did that and in ninety five, hit twenty nine homers
drove in eighty eight, was an All Star and got
MVP votes. And one other I thought of Rodney Oaster.
That eighty seven season, Ron Oaster was hitting a taken
out on a slide by Mioky Wilson. The Mets tore

(28:36):
his left ACL, had to have total knee reconstruction, and
made it back the next season to play in fifty
four games. Hit two eighty in fact, would win the
Hutch Award for Overcoming adversity after that season and played
a total of three seasons after the injury, including hitting
two ninety nine on that Wire to wire team. All right,

(28:59):
we got so down the stretch, will go finish it
off with a thought on the reds to check on
the scoreboard, and a couple of notes on this date
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(29:19):
you followed. If you do, already, thank you. If you don't,
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Speaker 3 (29:29):
Of what is going on. A couple of things, Oh,
a couple of scores. Halftime.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
NKU has crept within one of East Tennessee State on
the road tonight thirty three thirty two, big comeback Norseville
and a hole one point. I saw they were down
fifteen to two to start. They trail by one at
the break and in Bloomington at halftime. Hoosiers have dropped
fifty one on Milwaukee at the twenty minute mark, leading
fifty one thirty nine, fifty one to thirty nine over Milwaukee.

(29:56):
Couple of notes from this date in sports history. This date,
nighte teen eight, Reds become the first major league team
to play in Cuba, defeating a team in Havana. The
month long postseason barnstorming trip, organized and managed by business
manager Frank Bancroft, included a dozen games in Cuba. Nineteen
sixty four, sad note on this date, Reds manager Fred

(30:17):
Hutchinson died of cancer at the age of forty five.
The Reds immediately retired Hutchinson's number one, becoming the first
person so honored by the club. He managed the Reds
from nineteen fifty nine through sixty four, winning the sixty
one pennant. He also won ninety five games as a
pitcher for the Tigers in his career. And on this date,

(30:37):
nineteen air eighty two, Aaron Pryor scores a fourteenth round
knockout of Alexis Arguayo in the Orange Bowl to retain
his WBA super lightweight boxing title for the first of
two meetings between the Hall of famers, dubbed the Fight
of the Decade. This date, nineteen eighty two. By the way,

(31:00):
talk more Reds on Friday Night. Perhaps if you're not
reading Charlie Goldsmith Charlie's chalkboard. It is free if you
subscribe to it on substack, you get an email to
you every day. He's at the GM meetings with some
excellent stuff and talked with Nick Crawl about the three
objectives right now. Their main objectives to rebuild the bullpen.
They're going to fill a couple spots, the closer role

(31:21):
to be determined, need a left handed specialist as well.
How they Nick said he'd like to get themselves better
offensively and defensively. Key Brian Hayes helped that by moving
to third and Nova Marte in the outfield is going
to help that. And he said we're going to have
to figure out how to replace the production of Austin
Hayes and alluded to the fact of them along with

(31:41):
Brad Metterer talking with Charlie Goldsmith. Maybe moving Spencer Steer
back to the outfield or at least moving him around
and off of first base. Remember he was a finalist
for the gold Glove at first base. But where is
sal Stewart gonna play. He's not going to play third base,
and he's clearly not going to play second base, so
they have played him there in the month of September
when he was up. So it looks like south Stewart's

(32:03):
time is going to be as a first basement or
as a DH which means making Spencer Steer more mobile
in terms of moving around the infield. In the lineup
that a couple of the notes from the GM meetings.
Charlie Goldsmith Charlie's Chuckboard. I wish I had more time
an hour not enough. Thanks for hanging out though for
the hour. Thanks to Joe Wael for producing Stick Around.

(32:25):
It is the Scott Saderfield Show. After news, I'm back
at you tomorrow night with the Roundtable Show in Hebron
with Rocky from six to eight.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
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Speaker 2 (32:34):
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