11-13-25 Scott Sloan Show

Scott debates teen curfews to curb violence with Councilmember Meeka Owens. Also Patrick Holland from CNET has tips to extend your phones battery life. Finally Pete Schinn breaks down what was in the Epstein file release last night.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you want to be an American idiot?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome to We got lots going on this morning in
scotslone show on seven hundred w welw.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
I don't have to tell you.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
The government's reopened and we've got Epstein files to talk about.
In just so much more, a little closer to home,
Cincinnati proposing a stricter nine to five curfew for miners
under eighteen on short Fine. We're talking about this yesterday
with other council members, so short Finding, you see, and
it's gonna be a think between Daniel Street and Corey
and it moved out of committee and now Consul's a

(00:29):
whole vote for this thing. And so the idea is
we have crime that since they've been cracking down on
Fountain Square in downtown and OTR that we're seeing juveniles
in particular move towards short Vine. And of course we
had a fifteen year old charge with murder in April.
Remember the shooting outside of the liquor store Halloween weekend.
There was gunfly fire. A bunch of tons of UC
students out there in costume enjoying the fun of Halloween

(00:52):
weekend that was upset by gunfire. Fortunately, no one was
struck there and so we're going to try another curfew
here of many curfews. She is counselmber re elect. Mika
Owhen's joining the show this morning on seven hundred WW Mika,
welcome back and congratulations.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
By the way, thank you, Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
I am very happy to do that your listeners and
the voters of this city and trusting me to get
back to work in the city Hall. There's so much
for us to do. Safety is at the top of
the list, uh, you know, and no one moves to
a city where they don't feel safe until it's important
that we make sure that every single neighborhood feels that way.

(01:31):
So building more housing, transportations, so many things for us
to accomplish.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Were you surprised do you finish third?

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Overall?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
You know, I never take anything for granted. You know,
you run a race, and you run at this it's
your first time running, and so I am just grateful
that again, folks, you know, decided that the work that
I've been doing is valuable to moving this city forward.
And at the end of the day, you know, it's
like the placement is great, but for voters to say yes,

(02:03):
I want you to represent me, represents the city at large.
That is a huge responsibility, and so it's really about
getting back and doing their work.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Good, good, good.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I want to name recognition obviously, but finishing third and
ahead of another bunch of other prominent Democrats is pretty
big final point on the election because this is obviously
concerning as well. We know that the Charter Rights three
is a Democratic sweep on council. Democrats had a great
night like yourself on Tuesday election night, but relative to
the Charter Rights who made a lot of noise, and

(02:33):
I think they made some really strong arguments about getting
serious about public safety. And even though they didn't place
and it was a sweep, do you still listen to
that and go, well, you know what, there's a lot
of animosity here and we've handled things poorly relative to
crime here in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Do you get a message from the voters on that,
you know?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I would say the voters have entrusted and have looked
to the city's budget to understand that we are investing
in public safety and it's a continual investment, and so
I think voters see that we are taking that seriously
and crime. Getting a handle on crime takes a lot
of components, one of which your CPD you know, environment improves,

(03:15):
improved communities, investments in communities, young people having opportunities. These
are all factors. But certainly the way that we respond
and give the resources to CPD uh and the laws
and policies that we would create around that are also
very very important.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, and then that's the outlart too, is we have
to wait for all these police recruits and classes to
come to fruition before we see the fruits of that.
So it's going to be a while before all this happens,
and we're still going to have, sadly some crime going on.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I mentioned what's going in and around you.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Ce Mika Owens, one of the people who were interviewed
out there, said, hey, listen, now we put a curfew
up here, the crowd comes up, Well, they'll just move
somewhere else. Are we just playing like whack a mole
with this problem?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
You know, I don't think we're playing black them all.
I think we're being very responsive. And certainly, again, you know,
you apply the resources where you see there might be problems,
and at the end of the day, and it's so
important that our young people feel safe. Those that are
you know, going to uce to to further their education.

(04:21):
No one should live in an environment where gunshots become
the norm, and so it's it's all hands on deck.
You know, we're knowing that that folks are stilling done
out of vehicles, and so it's important that people keep
their firearms stored properly in the city of Cincinnati, including
in your home in the car. So it's you know,

(04:43):
it's something that we're not taking our foot off the deack.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well not only that, I mean, let's talk about this
from a consumer spurtsvactive here. We know the trouble that
colleges are going through. The bubble feels like it is
deflating and sometimes rapidly the value of a college degree
for what you pay for worse as you get that's
a can But as we have fewer students and schools,
some schools going out of business, let's put it that way.
We're seeing that across the country, if not in Ohio.

(05:09):
Now we all of a sudden, you know, we have
schools that are vying, going to be vying shortly for
kids to come there. If crime is a huge factor
in and around universus Cincinnati, does that hurt enrollment. Is
that a concern of the administration you see be the city.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well, I'm not talked directly to see it administration, but
certainly if you know any time that again, people perception
of safety is not one that is positive. And certainly
people will make decisions on where they go, where they
invest their money, where they send their young people to school,
and so absolutely from not only a community perspective, but

(05:46):
from a talent perspective as well. And so when we
as not only a state but a city, are competing
with other places, it's important that you know, young people
feel like they can come to Cincinnati, get an education,
and ultimately stay here as well.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, Mika Owens.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
With the problems you have with this, of course, is
that this is going to crack down on teenagers, those
under eighteen and short vindor you see from nine to
five it's gonna be nine to five curfew. Other In fact,
we have all these staggered curf kind of like parking.
You know, the different parking zones across the city. I
can figure that with an app but in one area,
I can be eighteen and it's eleven o'clock here, it's
nine o'clock here, it's a that can be kind of
confusing relative to enforcement. But the more important element is

(06:26):
the fact that you're now restricting eighteen year olds around
a whole bunch of other eighteen year olds are going
to be there, the bulk of those go to UC
or any college for that matter, and the eighteen to
twenty year old range. How do you discern the people
who should be there versus the ones that should no?
Or does this simply stop people from going out after
nine o'clock in a college campus and generally going to school?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Myself, I remember the days, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
You'd stay up till three, four, five o'clock in the
morning sometimes because the way your body clock works. How
is that going to work with these students that are
out spending money and joining their lives versus those who
shouldn't be there.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, certainly, I think this is going to be something
that CPD and you see are going to have to
work out through our shirt MoU. But ultimately, again, it's
about making this environment safe, which, by the way, I'm
sure you're aware that you know, Chief Isaac, the chief
of UC suggested that this was a good step forward
as well, and so you know, we're taking in all

(07:19):
of the information and data, and you know, the city
the administration is not making just decisions and silos. But
you know, listening to CPD is important in this as well.
But ultimately, you know this is going to take business owners.
You see CPD young people communication to make sure that
people are safe, but also making sure that there are

(07:42):
no unintended consequences. And you know, as it relates to
business owners, I too, you know I went to Miami
and so uptown, yes was that place that you you
went on on the weekends and patronized businesses And so
ultimately we want to make sure that our businesses are
not suffering. And so this will again be the continued
part of the conversation. And I certainly am invested in

(08:04):
working with the administration on these things, including our food
trucks right, making sure that food trucks even looking at
you know, where they might be able to be so
that they can continue to gain business and people, you know,
will patronize our small businesses.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Do you agree with the eleven o'clock food truck band?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Again, I think it was a response to what the
administration and TGD saw with the fight that happened. You know,
people congregating at three o'clock in the morning around food
trucks is not the best idea, and so I think
having something that is more consistent, something that also helps

(08:45):
to create more of an economic, you know, development opportunity.
When we think about food trucks that want are certified,
you have the health certification, you're doing all the right things,
you have a place to do business, and the city
is creating a foundation for that. I think these are
all things that are part of the tools and so

(09:06):
again I think what's important is that we're not doing
these things blanketly, but also making sure that we are
coming back and reviewing what are any unintended consequences and
how might we create solutions around that.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I'll be honest with the MECO.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And it feels punitive to me as a business owner
in that, you know, I'm out there selling a product
to people I don't know their background. I had a
new background checks when somebody buys a hot dog, nor
should you. And then because of some few bad actors,
I have to shut down eleven o'clock when I could
be making pretty good money. And let's face it, I
don't know what the options are. Clifton at midnight or
one o'clock or two o'clock in the morning when the

(09:40):
bar's closed. But I know, as you went to Miami,
there's a lot of windows, says, food trucks up there now,
robots and everything else. And so you know, you can
get food on the campus of Miami. That's a little
different that you see. But the point is there's a
market there for that, and someone created a business and
models satisfy that. It's kind of like going, hey, you
know what, we had a problem with people stealing cars,
are driving the recklessly on the street to downtown Cincinnati,

(10:02):
which we see all the time now with the sheriff
or the State Highway Patrol helicopters.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
You know what we're gonna do. We're having a curfew now.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
You can't drive on the streets after eleven o'clock because
some people are driving too fast.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Isn't it the same thing?

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, well, you know, I certainly hear that from members
of the community, and so I think our best response
right now is to one create an environment that build states,
you know, create a baseline for even understanding the economic
impacts to our small businesses, our food trucks specifically, and

(10:34):
so by way of you know, really creating an environment
where we know where people are, you know, how to
get a spot. All of those things help to really
shape an environment that's probably an improvement and where we
are now. But again, I am very committed to working
with the administration to make sure that their solutions rather

(10:56):
than you know, people thinking they are obstacles or cogencies.
So it is something that I again I am hearing
and it's something that is a priority for me.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
To follow up on.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Council memory Colt Lock Mika Owens on the show on
seven hundred WLWN talking about the curfew proposal. Downtown Law
and Public Safety voted on this. It moved out of
committee to Council as a whole. Now they'll vote equal,
will vote on this shortly to propose as a nine
to five curfew on short find. You see, because of
the problems they had there, we saw some of the
violent crime move from Fountain Square OTR and downtown to

(11:29):
Clifton and that's a no go because we saw what
happened on Halloween. We saw a fatal shooting back in April,
and it's not good when you have college students around
and you know, mom and dad foot the bill or
you're you're taking out a lot of money for college education.
Public safety at this level should not be concerned, and
yet it is because of the nature of the urban campus.
And we're talking about that vote coming up here on

(11:50):
the show on seven hundred WLW. Back to the curfew itself,
because we had the curfews downtown, o city wide curfew,
the curfew of the banks. We've got this curfew you
have the same time. We've been doing this since what August,
So it's a fairly okay sample size, I think, and
now that summer is over. But we have the curfew
centers where we'll take teams and drop them off, and

(12:10):
there's only been four teams taken the queue for curfew
centers downtown. Is that because do you think the terms
is working or is it simply because it's under enforced.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I think it's working, and so which is a good thing.
We certainly don't want to see a curf youth center
filled with young people, and so I think people are
being compliant and that is what that is what's important here.
And so you know again and the curfew center being
a place that if one has to go there there
are services and support systems that that will help to

(12:43):
not only get people to young people to back home,
but also additional resources that maybe needed. So I think
we're turning in a good direction right now, and again
I think that's because of the partners that have helped
to communicate her few boundaries and expectations, and so I
think we'll have to continue to do that and continue

(13:06):
to again and monitor what is the success and products
that we're making here.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I'll point out, Mika that if you go back to
one of the two big events, the shooting and the
gun play over Halloween weekend, but the one in April
or the fifteen year old charged with murdering I think
the man name is Kyle Merrick, and a horrific crime
at that. If you witness the street crime, it's absolutely
depraved that at the time of day that happened that
wouldn't have been prevented by a curfew. So is this

(13:33):
a time of day issue or is this more of
a youth violence issue, And if so, that's greater than
a curfew.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
I think it's both. It's important to know that young people,
if they're supposed to be in school, that they are
in school. For one, it's important and that takes you know,
the village. This is that that helps support young people,
the environment, but there is also a need that within
the conversation of safe and young people, we've got to

(14:03):
provide more hope and options and opportunity for young people.
And so again if young people one, they should be
in school, if a s full age, and also what
kind of skills and training and opportunities and resources and
outlets do we have for young people, which is why

(14:24):
you know, coming back into city Hall, this is such
a priority for me. Uh. You know, one, there are
lots of games on the streets where young people have
access to and so that becomes an issue as well.
But it's one that the city has to be in
partnership with the state, has to be in partnership with
the federal government to really get a handle on this.

(14:44):
Of course, supporting the constitution absolutely, but young people have
access to fire arms and is not good for our community.
It's not good for policing. And this is also part
of you know, what makes officers safe to do this job.
So when we think about recruiting people, you know, this
is a part of that. And so we have to

(15:04):
make sure that this job that people feel safe doing
this job. We have to make sure that young people
are in the right places, and so it's going to
take again. This is just, you know, a continued conversation,
and these are actually things that I am looking at
as well in from the timers.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Gay gotcha.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Finally, I live in Warren County and we had the
other day an incident there where an individual was driving
was rush hour traffic.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
He passed somebody. They took offense to it.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
The guy comes after him, chases him, he takes off anyway,
long story, shirt dude pulls out a gun and puts
I think a round in the back, which car fires
around at him. And the end result was this individual
shot was stopped by the State Highway Patrol because somebody
called it a nine to one one where he went
to Warren County jail. He's being held on a five
hundred thousand dollars boud half a million dollar bond for that.

(15:56):
I don't know what his history is, but I look
at that in Warren County and people at Weren't County
aren't going to say for that nonsense. I look at
Hamlin County, go these are youthful offenders with guns and
they're released sometimes in their own recognizance extremely little bond,
and I think that just encourages more of the same behavior.
What message can you get to judges to start going, hey,
you know what, Warren Butler, Claremont County, they don't mess

(16:19):
around when somebody is involved with a gun crime. And
if you have a gun at your disability, God help you.
We should be throwing the book at you. From a
federal perspective, that's a strong message to these individuals. But
yet it feels like they're being treated with kid gloves.
Why and what role do you have as a counsel
person to make that change if needed?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, no, you're pointing out that there is you know,
this is a three sixty issue, and so that means
the courts have to respond as well. And I absolutely
agree that someone who is a violent offender been convicted
of the selonies and should not own a firearm. You know,
those are reasons tonot have someone back on the street,

(17:00):
and so I think it's important that that that we
won are are sentencing in the in the right way
bonds And I'm not an attorney, but whatever the maximum
should be, then that's what it should be. But also
what's to make sure we're creating as it relates to juveniles,
we're creating more of the upstroom opportunity to say one,

(17:22):
not only okay, you shouldn't be with a you know,
a llegal firearm on the street, but also let's make
sure we are moving people into more of a productive
place in their lives. And so certainly this takes the
court system to be a part of that.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, how are you going to vote on that?

Speaker 4 (17:41):
You know today is we'll see what happens this afternoon.
But I am certainly someone who is supporting public safety initiatives.
We're listening to CPD on these things as well. Uh,
And so I want to make sure that we as
a city are responding in all of the appropriate ways
that help to keep our community safe, make people feel safe,

(18:04):
all of us showing that we can walk down M
Street in the City of Cincinnati and not be alarmed
by gunshots or violent crime. H And so this is us,
you know, again showing up. But also it doesn't stop there.
It is uh, you know, what might we need to
do to improve going forward? And say those are the

(18:26):
questions that remains Okay, so well if.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Those questions are answered, you say yes on us? Yeah, okay,
got it.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
I don't see reasons to not support this.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Council Member Mika Owens, appreciate the time as always, Answeredship
and I congratulations again on.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
The big win.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Thank you so much. I'm looking forward to getting back
to work for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
All right, let's go, let's go. All right, thanks, take care.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
We got to get a news update in and more
to follow on this, and of course we'll dive into
the Epstein file dump just ahead here on the Scott's
Loan Show seven hundred other.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Scott Flowing seven.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Hundred WLWI off the show beautiful Thursday. Marnino looks a
good weekend ahead too.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
For that matter. On the backside, what do we got today?

Speaker 6 (19:14):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Today is the death of the American penny. The penny
that costs about four cents to mint is going to
be discontinued as of today because that production costs is
way outside of what it's value was, and plus they're
just so damn annoying. It's going to remain legal tender
offecy for a while until they fade out. I don't
know how long it's gonna take a long time. Wonder

(19:36):
are luck it's going to take to get rid of
all the pennies, probably not going to see it in
our lifetimes. If you're a live right now. I will
say this though, that the fastest way to get rid
of the penny is to get it off the market.
I am a I don't know if you know this,
but a licensed penny recycler, and if you want to,
according to the government, you want to get rid of

(19:57):
these pennies. Eighty forty four Montgomery Road, Cincinnati, Ohio four
five two three six. If you want unload all your pennies,
I'm a authorized penny recycler.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Just I want to think about it. Watch it get
like a wheelbarrow full of pennies or something like that.
I get anying for it. I'll just take the pennies,
make it someone else. It'll probably cost you more to Well,
you're rolling all those coinstar machines. How you roll that
into the bank. They look at it and go, we're
not taking that stuff. But you can't even get rid
of pennies if you want to unless you're rolling them

(20:30):
at yourself. So or pay the big at a coinstar machine.
You know, they had the old days of walking in
the bank and I got a bunch of pennies, put
it in your counter. Nope, not gonna do it.

Speaker 7 (20:39):
Do't know way.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
You gotta roll it yourself too. It's like I could
cheat you out of a couple of pennies maybe, and
and if you then weigh them, you then could just
weigh the pennies without the little sleeve on. It's just
a pain in the butt. They're a pain in the butt.
That's what it is as we move towards more of
a cashless society. So yesterday it was the Epstein drop.
We had twenty fous from the Republicans, which felt like

(21:01):
a classic legal move to kind of obscure what's really
going on here. Normally, you know, you just dump a
whole bunch of information on some of lepago. Here, here's
twenty thousand on top of the three that makes our
guy look a little more dirty than he is, and
that would be Donald Trump. It's going to be interesting,
and I hope it's more interesting than sickening to see
how this thing goes. Look, the fact the matter is,

(21:25):
this is an ongoing problem, has been an ongoing problem
for Trump and the Republicans for a while now. And
I think what's telling about this is Trump comes out
and says, look, this is the Republicans who flipped. The
four of them, including Thomas Massey, were very bad or
stupid Republicans as he called them. And it's a Democrat
trap in the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. But remember, you got
a whole lot of people to support and vote for

(21:46):
you and campaign for you based on the fact you
were going to be crystal clear in your transparency when
it came to Jeffrey Epstein and his misdeeds, his crimes.
And then because of expedient see if oh there's nothing,
there's nothing in this report, We're going to release and
release and then then there's nothing there. Well, you wonder
why people, even those who supported you, are at the

(22:08):
very least giving you side eye, at the most turning
their back on you or voting against you. In this
case is Laura they brought a look at it this way,
said it's a hoax. But at the same time, yesterday,
bring Lauren Bobert in from Colorado and they're trying to
sweat her to try and get her pull her name
off because you got this Democratic senator from Arizona who's
getting sworn in, and they didn't want the votes to

(22:30):
go through, and the end result as it did, because
Bobert and three others stood up and said, no, I
want this stuff to come out, and reports are not surfacing.
He was playing phone tag with some other reps to
try and get them to flip so they didn't have
the two hundred and eighteen signatures. And all this over
a hoax. I mean, if it's a hoax and you
really really believe that, then what exactly are you afraid

(22:52):
of people seeing? But I think it's part and parcel
for what we're talking about here in that I'm pretty
sure that Trump's named a lot in these things. On
the other hand, you wonder about prominent Democrats like Bill Clinton.
How look what happened to Prince Andrew right. I mean,
they stripped him of his crime. They said, okay, you're
not you're out.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
That.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
And you know how protective and secluded and private the
royal family is. For them to do that over this
and for us to go ad nothing to see here,
it doesn't look good. And is there a crime that
I don't know because we don't know everything that's in there.
I understand there's a context that the Democrats are going

(23:36):
to drop the stuff that they want to use to
make Trump look bad. Absolutely, are there some politics behind
There's a lot of politics behind this. If you look
at this, is just what a partisan weaponsization is. What's
going on here. Republicans are accusing Democrats are selectively leaking
the emails, but they're also withholding records that named Democrats,

(23:57):
so we think anyway, and Democrats accuse Republicans are covering
for true up and back and forth. So you know,
you look at that and I'm about quite honestly, I
don't really care Republican, Democrat or otherwise. If you were
accused of, caught up in, or guilty of doing all
the misdeeds, you should be going to prison, just like
others have in this particular case. I don't think there's any.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Debate for that. I don't think there's any room for that.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I mentioned the time he was impeccable because of Prince Andrew,
and now you look at us and go, okay, what
are we doing over here? It's just not negotiable that
the facts are out there. Did he what level involvement
did he have is a big question. What did he
know and when did he know it to coin a phrase.
I think there's enough cover for him right now, going okay, well,

(24:47):
you had Maxwell come out and say, now there's really
nothing going on here. Jeffrey's family's been critical of Trump
after he said Epstein stole her from mar A Lago,
And I don't know what that means. Stole her from
our alago. Is it's stilling her because he knew what
he was going to do with her, or stole her
because you know, good employees are hard to find, so

(25:10):
there's wiggle room there. And Trump is really really good
to get out of legal jams. I don't know if
you notice that or not. I wouldn't say I give
him the benefit of the doubt. I just you need
more proof as to what's going on here, the full
depth of this whole thing, and you know, releasing little
pieces here and there to make the other side look
bad is not justice at all, as we've seen in
the past. You know, did he have some level of

(25:33):
Alma's hands in the sure he's involved, He's on planes
and everything else, So you know what, just release all
the names, release all the associations instead of milking this
out for political sake and we'll be done with this.
And I look at Michael Wolfe. That's the guy who
wrote Fire and Fear. I believe it was Fire and
Fury the one and just hanging around with Trump for
a while. But he said, you know one of the emails,
I hear Cen on plane and asked Trump tonight about

(25:55):
this relationship with you either on air and a scrum afterwards.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
And this was to Epstein.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
And six months after Trump had declared he was running
for the presidency of whatsoe that's back in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's to be twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
And Epstein replied to wolf if we were to craft
an answer for him, what do you think it should be.
I think you should let him hang himself as a
wolf road. If he says he hasn't been on the
plane or the house, that gives you a value of
pr and political currency. You can hang him a way
that potentially generates a positive for you. Or if it
looks like he could win the election, which you did,
you could save him and that would generate a dat

(26:28):
And that's the politics of it. That's the you know,
I'm sad. That's that's pretty damning right there. And I
think we as a people deserve to see more. But
we now live in such a hyper partisan world that
any criticism and saying, hey, you know, we should be
looking at this somehow doesn't make you mag enough, and
it's just you're falling for Democratic Democrat lies and like

(26:50):
and then okay.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
The other side is that we're probably pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
That the Clintons or someone else's in the person the
Democrats are involved in this as well, because you know,
this whole classism battle that we face, there's an element
of truth to it in that the people were talking
about they all swim in the same fish tank. You know,
you think we think it's about hyperpartisan politics. I mean
that's okay. Inside the Bellway, it's a little bit different,

(27:15):
especially inside those towers, a lot different when these are
very very wealthy, well connected people and you do have Democrats, Republicans, agnostics,
atheists and everyone hanging out with it. You know, last
time I checked, if you're gonna be a pedophile, it
does not know any political affiliation. And so if that's
the case, Republicans have a lot to protect as new Democrats.

(27:37):
I mean, our Congress can't be bothered to pass a
balanced budget, can't be vouchered to It's happened twice in
my lifetime. I know about you seemingly can't do the job,
but they're really really good about trying to block stuff
like this, the real truth and stuff from getting out there.
And that should tell you everything. You know, if you're
a hyperpartisan, you may want to really, you know, look
at that. And I'd say, look at the Democrats. You know,

(27:58):
you're having no kings rallies to rail against Trump and
the like. But again, it's what you preach is also
not what you practice. Because we have a kingdom, and
the kingdom was not started under Donald Trump, but was
started well in the past. When it comes to executive order,
and because Congress is beholden to the presidency whomever that is,

(28:18):
they will allow either executive auto pen whatever it is,
to do the bidding the presidency, and they feel like
they don't have to act because they've given that power
away to the executive branch as opposed to really having
a balance of power. That's going on, and we saw
that with what's going on with the debt or the
vote on the big beautiful bill, or in this case here,

(28:38):
it's like just we just walk away well, do we
have Congress for them? The hard things are not willing
to do, but really really good at making sure that
the truth doesn't get out there, which makes one think
there's something there and I think we deserve to see
all that. Maybe we'll find out next week. We'll see
at five and three, seven, four, nine, eight hundred the
Big One talk back iHeartRadio up over to A Dayton

(28:59):
and Jeff one hundred.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
W W Hey, Jeff, thanks for checking in.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Marty Sony Hey.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I was in the Air Force and in nineteen seventy
nine to eighty I was at Coonsan Air Base, Korea,
and we didn't use painties at all on base. The
basic change if it was round, you'd round up to
the nearest nickels. So it really it never mattered. And
I don't think it will be a problem.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I don't think so either.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I mean people will say, well they'll just round up,
do they won't because you have competition. You have to
look at gas, you know, if the if the UDF
on one side and the speedway and the other. If
it's a if it's a three cent different one cent difference,
people will go to the one that's cheaper.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Absolutely yeah, yeah, issue really compared to the others that
we have now.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, so don't figure if you want to get rid
of those petties, you know where to send them. Okay,
all right, there you go, eighty forty four Montcomerer News
on the way in about eight minutes here on seven
hundred WLW. Patrick Collin from CET is here. I love
the seet guys because they're geeky and wonky and it's
so what you need to know on better, better battery
life for your phone. And you know, we this time

(30:03):
of year especially see how they Kevin Hart's and every
commercial and if the commercials he's not in shacks and
would be the other one, and then Matthew McConaughey and
a select few others. So there's really three guys who
do all the commercials. And you got all three. But
now they you know, Kevin Hart, the iPhone ads and
then we'll see the Antifa.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
We got the Google phones.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
You know all they got all these things on them,
really really cool features that most of us don't use. Now,
if you're an influencer, you know there's a phone for you.
It has multiple cameras and all they need is a
phone I need texting, I need social media, I need
the Internet. I need a phone phone, maybe a few apps,
but primarily I need a battery that lasts a long time,

(30:49):
like at a perfect world.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
I need a battery that lasts like Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Time you ever notice on a show streaming otherwise, movie
people always in the they never charge a day. You
never see them, like We'll go to sleep and then
the phone ring and will wake up and pick the
phone up. It's never in a charger now, but to
hold on, I gotta unplug it. I got to take
it up the the bag safe older, No, none of that.
Where's my dad off?

Speaker 3 (31:14):
I'm out of you.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Unless it's somebody that is about to get killed or
something like that, then there's a good chance they have
no cell service or they're down it's blinking or low
power that one percent the phone goes off like the
phone has always said, never seemed charge it, and it's
always on. I would love a phone like that where
I could literally have an entire season of shows and

(31:36):
I'm always on the phone and it always has a
full charge.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
That could be a dream. That is a dream of mine.
Uh real quick.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
One other thing of note this morning and just kind
of trivial. At that is just about the time I
do the trivial kind of stuff on the show. Not
that the Jeffrey Epstein stuff was that that critical, but
or that trivial. I guess I should say next time
I go to the state, and this may happen next week.
It's not a done deal. But this is another thing
to confuse your wallet. You're ready for tiered pricing at

(32:09):
checkout based on what credit card you use. Now we
hear the stories about you know, Kroger changing their tags
in store, which is more about saving money for them
because of the cost of seven switch out prices and
do an electronic and store pricing. People, Oh, they're just
going to go to this tiered model, right, It's going
to be surge pricing maybe, but probably not tiered pricing
at checkout based on what credit card do. So Visa,

(32:30):
MasterCard and merchants reached the settlement, ending a twenty year
anti trust battle over they're called interchange fees. So these
are the chargers that banks collect for merchants for credit
card transactions. They charge them a percentage and the deal
is struck. And before this, merchants, for example, if you
accepted Visa, you had to take all visa credit cards,

(32:51):
doesn't matter what the brand was or what point it was.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
And the new rules would allow them now to pick
and choose rich category.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
So the categories we're not talking about, you know, is
it a points card to know different categories are. For example,
you've got your entry level cards like the Capitol and Quicksilver.
Then you got the mid market cards which are like
a Chase Sapphire Preferred. You have your premiums, which are
like an MX Platinum, or the super premiums, which is
thousands of dollars a year, would be a black card
because it's a status item. So those are like the

(33:17):
different categories of cards that they have. So the way
the new rule would work is basic cards might have
lower search chargers than a premium awards card. So if
you use your AMX instead of that I don't know
Discover card for example, you may be paying more in
that too as well. And now some merchant's course charge
flat fees for this too, but the pricing can be

(33:39):
more granular, and so the outcome they projected outcome here
is you'll see more fees as opposed to refusal. Some
places you can use this card. You can't use that
when I get that, but buy and large. You'll check
that statement and go, wait a minute, I just bought
a coffee and use this card here, and the one
that I just bought is twenty five cents more. Yeah,
it's because of which car you use. So just FYI

(34:02):
if indeed this goes into effect next week, well the news,
we'll talk about your phone battery life, very important stuff.
Just ahead, Scott Sloan, home of the best Bengals coverage
seven hundred WW Since now do.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
You want to be an American?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
It's got phone back on seven hundred wlw's all the
bells and whistles like multiple camber lenses and pixels and
health tracking. It's got a microwave in it, an AI
and what users really care about with the phone. I
think I may be wrong is battery life. How much
battery can I get out of this? How when do
I I gotta charge this again? I'm almost I'm done

(34:35):
a one bar, I'm one done as it's good to
oh man, you know phones right?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
And yeah, I'm not shooting a Hollywood film.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I'm not Steven Spielberg. All I want to do is
text somebody can you help me out? Patrick Hollin is
here from Cnet our friends at seen at He studied
three years of phone data so you didn't have to.
And Patrick, of course spend a lot of time here
in cincyback and they how are you?

Speaker 7 (34:57):
Hey, I'm very good. Still trying to find that in
my away by my iPhone, but.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, there, I think it's there. It's just buried in
like one of the I forget what happens, and it's
somewhere in there. But that's a disturbing parer. We've got
all these cool features and bugs on the phone. The
commercial we see a lot now right is, oh my god,
I'm shooting a Hollywood movie on this great.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Can I get a battery to last better than like
eight hours? That'd be fantastic.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
Yeah. Absolutely. I've been in reviewing phones for almost a
decade now, and the number one and number two things
people want are a lower price and more battery.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
That's that easy, okay, And I know you probably did
did iPhone too, But this this applies is most of
us upgrade simply because our battery wears out right. It's
not the camera, the processors. I got the latest chip
on all that stuff. You know, it's basically about my
battery doesn't charge long enough. Absolutely, you look at your

(35:48):
battery and there's two things you can do. You you
can either take it in and pay like thirty to
fifty dollars to have it swap down and get a
new one in and there'll probably last a couple more years.
Or what most people do is they buy a new phone.
And what's great about these new iPhones for the iPhone
seventeen series is all of them have bigger batteries and
it's no logic there that bigger is better and you

(36:09):
get more battery life because of it. So you spent
you looked at three years of data and testing all
this stuff. But what's the most surpriing prising of finding
for you, Patrick came out of.

Speaker 7 (36:17):
Us absolutely the going through set labs. We have decade,
over a decade worth of data, but over the last
three years, specifically for battery testing and charging. It's no
surprise that the iPhone seventeen series has a longer battery
life than the iPhone sixteen series and definitely than the

(36:37):
iPhone fifteen series. In fact, the iPhone seventeen promacs that
you've probably seen like pictures of that orange color. That
one has the biggest battery ever in an iPhone, and
it's no surprise it actually topped all of our battery tests.
It's the highest rated phone you can get and raid
or iPhone at this time. We know there's probably gonna

(36:59):
be some more end phones coming out soon. And the
other thing is there's that really den iPhone, the iPhone
Air you may have heard about, and there was a
lot of worries about the battery life of that because
a very thin phone doesn't have a lot of room
for a battery. But turns out it's battery life is
it gets through a day. I wouldn't want to recommend
it for a power user, but it scored an our
test on on par with the iPhone fifteen from just

(37:22):
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
So looking through on the scene at lab Data really
helps us put just pretty clear in perspective which phones
people should get and spend their money on.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, I saw this metric the seventeen promacs a new one.
You did a three hour streaming test, so that's you
know that's gonna eat ups in battery. It just it
lost less than ten percent battery. That's incredible. What are
they doing differently this year? I mean, it seemed like
we've hit peak battery. I know, back of the day,
you know you're lucky if you get forty five minutes
out of a half hour out of a charge. Right,
But as we progressed here in the lithium batteries and

(37:52):
ion is a new technology that just getting is about
heat dissipation.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
What are they getting out of it to make it less?
How long?

Speaker 7 (38:00):
It's a little bit of both. So traditionally the iPhone
has at olythium ion battery. It still does. There are
some exciting Android phones coming out. One of them, the
only one in the US, I believe, is the one
plus thirteen that has a silicon carbon battery. And all
that means is for the same sized battery as the
lithium ion, you get one one and a half times

(38:21):
more capacity to it, so you get much more battery life.
But Apple didn't go that route. Instead, what they did
is they just put a physically larger battery in, but
then they also optimize things. They optimize for video playback
so it has less heat from the processor. In the
Pro models, there's actually a cooling chamber now that goes

(38:41):
over the processor, so it allows it to work a
little harder without causing more heat, and heat therefore makes
things go slower and you have to slow things down.
That doesn't turn off.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, okay, bigger batteries great, But does that it more weight?

Speaker 7 (38:55):
It definitely does. So the seventeen Pro and Promacs are
the heaviest iPhones we've tested. While they have an aluminum body,
so that is different from the titanium frames before, but
I think most people probably wouldn't even notice that it's heavier.
I will also say, though, I would recommend if you're
looking at just a regular seventeen Pro, take a look
at the iPhone seventeen. It's battery life is right on

(39:18):
par with it, it costs hundreds less, and for most people,
if you don't need that telephoto camera, it's actually quite
an amazing deal.

Speaker 8 (39:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I mean, if you're a creator, the Promax is great
and you're shooting those Hollywood movies, I guess, but you know,
if you're a creator three hour streaming, you're going to
need that.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
But for most of us, we're not.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
So yeah, and they're still going to be. There's still outliers, right,
you get the creative types you're making the movies and stuff.
But you also have people who are like obsessively online
and they're always on their phone, and there's not going
to ever really be a phone with a battery that's
going to be what they need. And part of it's
a behavior thing. Part of it's just you're using it
so much. But I have to say for most people, yeah,

(39:57):
these new iPhones should do really well. I really am
surprised by the iPhone seventeen from that just how much
of a jump of tad the last two years. So
if you're holding onto an old iPhone, like an iPhone fourteen,
just know you're going to get better battery life. But
if you have an iPhone fifteen, I would challenge you
to think about just having your battery or place. It's

(40:18):
much more affordable. It's going to extend the life of
your phone. And you like the screen and the cameras,
you've got nothing to lose.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
If you're a business user, maybe you'll run your own business.
My wife, for example, is a real estate barker. She's
on her phone all the time, talking or texting. How
does that three hour streaming test where it loses just
nine percent battery, how does that stack up to just
using the phone is what causes the battery to cook
more talking on the phone or streaming.

Speaker 7 (40:41):
Yeah, so the biggest killer for the phone's battery is
going to be your cellular connection. So if you look
at the bars in your phone, if you have full bars,
it means you are in a good place and the
phone's not struggling to reach that antenna. But it's like
missing a bar too. That's going to be that your
phone's going to really be pushing to grab that five

(41:01):
G data and stuff like that. The other thing is display.
These displays get so bright and the new phones have
even brighter displays, and there's some efficiency in the materials
they're using, but it's still going to draw a lot
of power for that. So the other thing we do
is in Sceneate Labs, we not only have the three
hour video streaming test, we have a forty five anecdotal
test where where we just put it under stress for

(41:23):
forty five minutes and what we're doing is we're doing
as we're playing video games or streaming, scrolling social news
feeds and things like that to really reflect what my
people might be using it on. And again, the iPhones
perform very well in that test. And our ultimate test
is we actually use these phones as our daily driver
while we're testing them, and so we know that if

(41:45):
we start the day at six am with a full battery,
something like the Promax is ending the day at thirty
thirty three thirty five percent. Wow.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Great, I think that's incredible. Patrick Collin from c NEET
and they're the guys that look at the equipment, all
the cool tech that we buy and break it down
tell you what the value is. He study three years
of phone data find out which all we care about
really outside of you know, all these big cameras and
bells and whistles is battery life, and which phones get
the best battery life? I iPhone seventeen Promacs and the

(42:14):
I seventeen the best. Right now, it's like a three
hour streaming test lost nine percent of battery. Obviously it's
going to consume more if you're using cellular and the like.
So in bigger batteries don't does mean bigger life?

Speaker 6 (42:25):
Is that true?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
That's true?

Speaker 7 (42:27):
I mean we look at Android phones, they traditionally have
much bigger batteries than the iPhone, but their software is
not optimized because that Android software has to work across
a variety of different phone designs and different processors and
things like that. So since Apple controls the software, the battery,
the processor, it's able to get much more efficiency out
of these I will stay smaller batteries. They don't want

(42:50):
you to know that, so if you ever go on
their site, you don't see them say how big the
gas take is, so to speak. But just know that
if you have a big truck with a big gas take,
it doesn't mean it gets great fuel efficiency. I So
in the case of the iPhone, it's all about that
fuel efficiency.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Are you sai.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
You're saying, basically, is the iPhone just a better phone
battery wise than androids?

Speaker 7 (43:10):
I would say there are Android phones that compete with it.
So the one plus thirteen really impressed us. And there's
a lot of the Chinese brand phones that we don't
get in the US that are probably even better than
the iPhone in some of these tests. As we don't
get them here, we don't get to test them all
in the same way, or they're in mandarate and things
like that. But yeah, so the iPhone is not the

(43:32):
only way to go to get a big to get
a long battery life, but it's the phone that most
people have in the US, and it's the most people
care about the US.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's that's entirely juman. I'm an
Apple user and it just all works like it should
and maybe a little more expensive, but it works, and
I pay a premium for stuff working and sinking as
it should. When you go back years of like maybe
I have a sixteen or fifteen or fourteen, and I'm like,
and well, I mean, it's working, okay, Can I slug
out for another year? You know, the way the economy
is and money's tight. These damn things are expensive and

(44:04):
I gotta extend my contract depending who I have. Is
there a difference? What's it is like the sixteen plus
and name the seventeen promax? I mean, is it night
and day?

Speaker 7 (44:15):
In terms of batter life? It's not night and day.
And even in terms of like cameras, it's not night
and day. Obviously, if you go back three four years,
you start seeing some major differences in noting battery life,
but the cameras your photos will look better, have more
dismos to make you take better photos, even if you're
not a great photographer. You'll have a bigger screen or

(44:37):
brighter screen and things like that. But if you really
go back, like I would say for most of these phones,
if you have an iPhone fourteen and you're thinking about upgrade,
that's a good place to be. If you have an
iPhone fifteen, and unless you really are going to get
a good deal, I would say it's worth sitting out.
But that's the other thing I feel a lot of
people don't look at and one of our scene at

(44:57):
surveys we found that a lot of people don't even
trade in their old phones, and you could trade that in.
Think of it like a car. You're going to get
much better value toward that new phone. And the best
time to trade in is actually when they first launched,
because Apple, O, Verizon, all these all these carriers are
offering these really these deals sometimes I can quote unquote

(45:19):
pay for the whole phone, right, So you got to
look out for that too, all right.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Patrick Collin was seen at studying a phone data which
ones had the best battery life Right now, the Apple
seventeen Pro Max is pretty damn good, or the seventeen
Pro for that matter, is doing really really well, and
it's one I spo.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Okay, the battery share. What about charging time?

Speaker 2 (45:36):
So if I get a battery charger bank, battery bank,
or I plug in somewhere, I need to get some
juice in my phone. That is a I think as
an outlier, right, because not all charging platforms are built
the same.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Something's charged faster than others. What about the phone itself?

Speaker 7 (45:52):
Yeah, so Apple has increased the charging on it. So
we have kind of two types of charges. We have
wired charging and we have wireless or app calls it
mag safe, right. I don't know if you or your
wife have like one of those magnetic stocks.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
And I notice we got one.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
I've got one in my next to my nightstand. I
put my phone on it on my alarm clock and
that charge is pretty fast. And then she's got one
she used for her phone in the kitchen and it's
like half as fast.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (46:15):
Yeah, So with those wireless charging there's kind of these
different standards. So Apple, Google, Samsung and hundreds of other
companies are part of the thing called the Wireless Power Consortium,
and they have the standard called KE it's called you
spell it out QI, and the original like standard is
like very slow charging there's Key too that came out
maybe two years ago, and that's a bit faster. And

(46:38):
then the last version's Key two point two. So that
gives us these twenty five watt speeds that you're probably experiencing.
But sounds like maybe your wife might have an older
mag safe stock, but it still has the magnet, it
still does the wireless charging. And what's great is that
those speeds you're not killing the battery. You're not I know,
years ago we'd recommend not keeping it on the charger
all the time. Most phones have SOWT for the AI

(47:00):
that kind of solved for that problem. But with these
wireless chargers, it just goes slow and steady. And for
the iPhone, the wireless charging on the new phones can
hit twenty five lots, which is pretty pretty fast.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
How much factor that I mean, okay, ten walk difference
Let's say between a fifteen minutes or fifteen twenty five
Let's just say that for measure how much and that.

Speaker 7 (47:25):
Ten wats Like if you were just throwing it on
a wireless dock for twenty minutes, you're going to probably
see the difference between like ten or fifteen percent more
charge on the newer one, right, But then there's the
wire charging, which if you plug that in and have
they don't give you the wall charger in the dock.
But if you get a one of the newer wall

(47:46):
chargers that's capable of these speeds, you're gonna be able
to hit fifty percent in twenty minutes on all the phones.
So in our scene at lab testing, we also tested
the charging speed and found that Apple's claims of fifty
percent in twenty minutes where we're ballot, one of them
hit forty nine. But that's margin of error.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Right, So yeah, interesting, So yeah, look for that twenty
five watch charger or the mag safe charger or the
things for your phone and get the fastest when you can.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
So the more waded, the faster chargers.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
That makes a lot of sense, yeah, because that's a
big question too, is like, man, my phone doesn't charge
fast enough, and that that could be wise. Well all right,
so bottom line here, head into a holiday shopping season,
maybe gonna last minute Christmas gift wherever it might be
for the holidays.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
What are you looking at? What'd you get?

Speaker 8 (48:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (48:28):
So I think if we're just for sticking with iPhones,
I would say that if you want the best battery life,
you're get to go with the Promac. If you want
a really good battery life, and we're not talking dramatically
less than the Promac, I would say, look at the
iPhone seventeen. It not only costs hundreds of dollars less,
it has an amazing battery life. And that battery life
is still better than the iPhone sixteen and the iPhone

(48:50):
fifteen before it. And definitely as you get to older phones,
and if you're looking into things like charging, also think
about accessories. I feel like that's a place where a
lot of forget. So if you want to take advantage
of some of these faster speeds, take a look at
the stuff that you have in your house, or you
might have to get something from Apple or Amazon that
supports these faster speeds to really enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Utcha And once again, if you're going Android.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
If you go on Android, I would say the phone
I would recommend and I hesitated about this is the
Galaxy S twenty five Ultra. That's going to be a
very good battery life phone. However, we they traditionally launched
a new model in January, so I would say, if
you can wait on buying an Android phone, like for

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a month or two that you're probably going to have
a new one waiting for you on the other side
of the new year. And another good one to look
at is the one plus thirteen. This thing has a
seven over seven thousand million our battery that's almost one
and a half times bigger than the iPhone Promax. It
gets incredible battery life, and it has insane charging speeds.

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It can get eighty lot of wireless charging. And again
this is a Chinese brand, and out side the US
that same phone gets one hundred watch. But we have
some regulations that we have regulations.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Correct, they don't care about radiation and burns or fires,
answer and things like that fires in China some regular Now, okay,
those Now that the the phone that Ted Danson advertises
for the elderly folks, right, that one that still runs
on coal.

Speaker 7 (50:21):
Right, I'm sure it does.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
But you know what, four.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Just numbers.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I don't need mail, I don't need to take pictures.
I just need a phone with numbers on it. And
I've got my numbers in my purse and I type
them in.

Speaker 7 (50:36):
I say, look to our elders, because I think there's
something to say about.

Speaker 8 (50:39):
Having a phone.

Speaker 7 (50:40):
That's that's simple, and that you're not on your phone
all the time. Granted, we're able to run businesses, we're
able to make movies, we're able to do all these
amazing things in our phones. But for a lot of us,
it's a lot of place to go when we're boord
and get swelled into scrolling and doom scrolling right.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Right, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
My mom passed away four years ago and she's still
at eighty percent on her phone. It's incredible because it's
like it's just there's nothing else going on here, all right.
He is Patrick Collin with CNET. Thanks again for the
I always love your stuff. Man, you guys are great
and I'll always love having you on, So don't be
a stranger.

Speaker 7 (51:10):
I appreciate. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Take care.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Crazy story with Denver Broncos linebacker Alex Singleton. He gets
a NFL you know, random drug test shows up and
it looks like, wow, you're on steroids or you have
testicular cancer because your hormonne levels are utivated. He said, well,
I'm not on steroids. Goes to doctor so right after
the game on Thursday night, Friday morning, is in surgery
It's amazing what these screenings can't catch. And that was

(51:32):
just lucky. Doctor Asanj's on the show. Next to our
weekly health and fitness segment with him, we'll talk about
the test you need by age, so in your thirties, forties, fifties,
sixties and beyond, which ones are necessary, which ones are
just stupid. We'll get to that just to head Sloaney,
seven hundred WLW. Scott's phoning back on seven hundred w
LW Thursday Morning check in kind of a new segment

(51:54):
of the show. Sanjay Schevacremani is an EIR physician here
in Cincinnati, but also his entire brand is about health
and food and fitness, so all those things are interesting
come together. Not the kind of pushy like do a
thousand push ups and only eat avocado kind of guy.
He's like a normal dude. He was talking about a
favorite steak a minute ago. Son Jay, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
How are you?

Speaker 9 (52:13):
It's only morning, Sloan. It's only nine hundred and fifty
push ups a day for me, not a full thousand.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I like some of the men's magazines where I don't
need to squad a refrigerator I'm good man, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I'm exactly.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
It's an interesting story that just happened on Thursday. Denver
Bronco linebacker Alex Singleton, if you heard the story, had
nine tackles on Thursday nights when Friday morning he's in
surgery for testicular cancer. What had happened is the NFL
gave me random drug screening tests to do all players,
and it came back and said, hey, you're positive. And
he said, well, I know I don't take steroids. The

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only other thing that could be with the raised hormone
levels is testicular cancer. He went to a physician, he tested.
It was that he went to surgery and I guess
he's doing much much better. But no, hear that someone
young and vibrately an NFL player testicular cass. Had they
not had that drug screen that could have been fatal.

Speaker 9 (53:06):
Yeah, I mean fortunate, really fortunate and lucky. It's actually
it reminds me of a story from Reddit about ten
years ago where a guy posted a pregnancy test strip
from his girlfriend and it was He's like, I urinated
on this and it's positive. Isn't this funny? And then
people chimed in one after another. That's like, hey, get

(53:26):
checked out. That's probably testicular cancer, right, because of the
hormones that are secreted when you have it. He saw
a doctor and then had surgery, and so again it's
the same lucky thing. The concern being, you know, what
if it wasn't for that drug test, What if it
wasn't for him being on a pregnancy test strip, what then?
And that's the real thing about preventative care is getting

(53:49):
ahead of things, and not by luck alone, but because you're.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Pernously doing there. I know there's a lot of things
in medicine like that. I mean, I'm gonna butcher this
because it's been a long time. But as I recall,
I knew someone who was he and I exam and
they found some doesn't quite look quite right there anyway,
A long story short, I think there's is there a
connection between the the ocular nerve or the the eyeball
and is it delivered the kidney is something along those lines,
And it turns out it was to be a cancer,

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they will to catch it extremely early simply because the
optomologist saw something like that doesn't look quite right.

Speaker 9 (54:19):
Yeah, there are links between kind of all the organs
that the kidneys can change your eyes, change your eyes,
and so like, yeah, everything's connected and just getting some
getting yourself looked at can lead to a lot of
important findings that that can you know, save your life.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, and you as an er doc, you see this,
you know, you see the result of this stuff of
either the bad luck where you don't catch the stuff
or people just ignoring the symptoms. You talk about preventative
measures too. One of the biggest things we're starting to
learn more about, and I'm a big proponent of, is
vitamin D.

Speaker 9 (54:50):
Yeah, and this is this is something that has been
around for a long time that people have talked about
vitamins and vitamin D and specific But when we think
about vitamin D usually you think about what it's usually sunshine,
sunshine and then leading to bone health, and people think
about calcium and everything. But what we're learning is there
are so many more benefits to vitamin D and getting

(55:12):
through that data of what you know, what it helps,
and what it may not is part of the plan.
But really, vitamin D seems to be one of the
most important things that we can measure in our body.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Is vitamin D going to be the new protein because
you just said because everything's got protein and the protein
has extra protein, water with protein and it now cereal
has extra protein. We're getting protein all the time, which
is not a bad thing, But are we going to
have everything with extra vitamin D at it now?

Speaker 9 (55:37):
Because of this, I wouldn't be surprised. So you know,
in time we'll see. So again, vitamin D healthy for
bone health. It helps your body get calcium into it,
phosphorus that goes into your bones. But also it turns
out that almost every organ in our body has vitamin
D receptors, So it's not just the bones, it's in
our brain. So you know, the serotonin that makes you

(55:59):
happy that relies on vitamin D our heart. There's actually
a study that just came out about men with that
I've had a heart attack. If they had their vitamin
D levels increased to greater than forty they had a
fifty percent less chance of a second heart attack after that.
That was just released like a month ago from Inner

(56:20):
Mountain Health. And so knowing that data, I think there's
going to be a lot more studies into what vitamin
D can do to help us.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Yeah, of all the supplements, is that the one you
recommend the.

Speaker 9 (56:31):
Most Yeah, of all of them, that would be it.
I mean there's a lot of stuff out there. We
talked about zinc last week for getting better, but I'd
say vitamin D is one of the most things you
can take for your own health, and.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Real quick on that to the de belaevor. But what
about delivery, because there's you know, if gummies, you have
the typical big giant vitamin, you have the liquid caps
that I take.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
What.

Speaker 9 (56:51):
Yeah, the liquid caps are great, that all of them
are fine, the best way that works for you. But
you want to take the vitamin D three. It can
come in D two form, but D three is the
one you want, and really it's hard to get toxic
on it, right, So these things come in international units.
If you're taking more than ten thousand international units a
day for a long time, that can hurt you. But

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usually in the range of like two thousand to four
thousand and six thousand a day, you're okay. That being said,
the benefits in that study were really for the people
who were low to start, and so you do want
to also get your levels checked so you make sure
that if you're deficient, you're getting to a good level.
If you're in a greater than forty range, which I
know is slow and you're probably around there. Oh if

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you're there and there's less need for it, but you're
also doing stuff to bring up your vitamin D.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yeah, all right. Then there's the different things you can have, right,
you have, you have D two, D three, you have
K two. You have all these things right right.

Speaker 9 (57:48):
I mean it's like it's just it's alphabet soup as numericals,
So really matter as long as you're getting D three, Yeah,
D three is what you want, and whatever form it
comes in, you should be Okay. I just I literally
after seeing that internat and the house study about heart attacks,
not that I've had a heart attack before, but I
bought gummies myself. I okay, you know, I didn't think
about it. But as we enter the cold season, there's

(58:08):
a couple of things that drop our vitamin D levels. So,
as you mentioned, the sun is what produces most of
our vitamin D. It hits our skin, vitamin D is produced.
But in the winter times November to February in Cincinnati,
we're not getting the sunlight we need for a couple
of reasons. One, we're not going out because as we
all experience, it's cold as heck right now. And then two,

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the sun is actually at a lower angle, so it's
hitting our body at this weird angle that does not
produce vitamin D anymore.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
All right, So that's a good start. I'm real quick
because you know, like like a few minutes. But Sonjay,
let's talk about the tests that you should be getting
based on age. You know, twenties, you're having a good
by the time you get thirty, it's time to start,
you know, get a base one with what blood pressure, skin,
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Yeah, that's where we want to be.

Speaker 9 (58:51):
So our bodies are pretty forgiving, as we've all experienced
in our twenties and thirties. There's a lot of things
we can do and don't have to do, but it
is a good time to set up habits. That is,
you know, seeing a physician or at least having your
blood pressure checked annually, making sure you like cholesterol is okay,
and then also developing the habits including you know, good
dietary lifestyle, but also fitness and and lifting to help

(59:15):
set yourself up for a longer, higher quality life that'll
be your twenties.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
And maybe what about things like baseline EKGs diabetes screenings.
What wage group does that.

Speaker 9 (59:25):
Commend diabetes screening, I'd say is in the It depends
on your risk factors. You know, if you're if you're obese,
if you have a family history of diabetes, you want
to get checked earlier. Usually it's thirties and forties that
diabetes it is starting to be checked for the most part.
You know, again, I'm emergency room doctor.

Speaker 7 (59:45):
It is not what you do.

Speaker 9 (59:47):
This is the stuff and so, but what I do
see is the long long standing effects or the problems
that develop because people haven't gotten screened or haven't had
their symptoms managed. And diabetes is one of those things
that's easy to check for that would be important to
check early.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
All Right, when you see people coming to the emergencery
with symptoms, I'd imagine too many times you're not diagnosing
cancer in the ED right.

Speaker 9 (01:00:10):
Unfortunately more often than you said.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
So let's let's rewind that. Then that's gonna come probably
in your sixties fifties, we.

Speaker 9 (01:00:19):
I mean, that's that's when it's more normal. Yes, but
I'll tell you I've had twenty year olds diagnosed with
breast cancer that I've diagnosed with breast cancer, pancreatic cancer.
It's a terrible one which is even hard to screen for.
But that that I've diagnosed in forty year olds, it
can happen at any age, which is not I don't

(01:00:40):
mean to be doom and gloom, but it's my reality
and that's what I see. Yes, it's rare, but these
are there are certain ones that can be prevented. You
talked about testicular cancer, So guys, just doing a testicular
exam annually we can help screen for those women doing
breast exams that you can screen annually for that before
we get into the time of mimography stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Right, so then colon ascoby is the happy time right
around fifty. But with PSA, with the advanced test, the
PSA tests and stool tests and stuff like that, has
that gone the old digit test is that done now?

Speaker 9 (01:01:12):
So less digit tests now that we have the stool test,
so fortunately there's less of it. But we still check
for prostate cancer, you know, manually. Although PSA has has
shown some promise, it's just not a catch all and
so your your physician may want to still do the
digital exam to check your prostate but it's an important

(01:01:32):
part still just to screen. It's a it's a thing
that most men will have by the time they're eighty,
they will have some form of prosta cancer. But you know,
for the most part, it's not going to be life threatening.
That being said, it can be, and so it's always
good to get it checked and also have someone who
can put it into context for you because there's a
lot of noise out there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I know a couple of people wouldn't do it and
then they wind up getting prostate cancer, dying and regretted it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
I mean, it's certainly something you don't want to have
to go.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
It's not the highlight of your day either, nor is
for the patient, but it's one of those necessary things.

Speaker 7 (01:02:06):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Some of these things you see about different types of scans,
the calcium whatever that is where you've got the blood
pressure cuff on your ankle and they jump on your
chest or whatever the hell is done. I was fine,
I guess I don't know what this is, but Okay,
there's different tests like that that are offered, and yet
there are other ones where are like get a full Hey,
we're gonna be the library with this truck tomorrow for
two thousand dollars you can get a full body seet

(01:02:28):
What do I really need.

Speaker 9 (01:02:30):
Need is an interesting thing. I hesitate to do the
full body scans or advise people to get it, just
because there's so much information there. I'll tell you that,
like even in our scans we do in the emergency
department for reasons for symptoms, we'll find a lot of
what we call incidental lomas, things that we find just
by accident that probably don't mean anything.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Probably benign exactly, but would work a.

Speaker 9 (01:02:55):
Patient up and and you know then they may have
unnecessary scans to follow that up. Said, occasionally we do
find something that needs follow up, but for the most part,
we're finding more things than we need to with those
full body scans. That being said, there's things like the
DEXA scan, which is very low radiation X ray for
the whole body that tells you a good idea about

(01:03:17):
how your bone health is, how your muscle health is,
and how much kind of fat you have on you
And those are cheaper. They're usually run about one hundred
dollars and they're definitely gaining popularity as far as getting
an idea of where you are, and a lot of
places are.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Offering, especially for women in their sixties and sixty five.

Speaker 9 (01:03:33):
And for sure, and that's kind of where it started,
was to check FROs your porosis, so basically thinning bones.
But now they've they've found ways to actually expand that
to say how much lean muscle mass do I have?
And that can be that is an important part as
we're learning more and more. You mentioned protein earlier, Yeah,
it is an important part of our lives, is are

(01:03:54):
how much muscle mass.

Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
Do we have?

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
I mean it's fascinating because you see these tests and go,
I really need that. I know someone had added and
I think the problem with that is it's so granular,
right is if you looked at the human skeleton, which
is pretty clean, but you know, as you know, if
you look at the imaging of body, you're going to
have inperfections all over. Nothing is exactly the same in everybody.
And then it's going to cause you to go, oh
my god, it's a tumor. Well, it's probably not a
tumor exactly. It could lead you down a.

Speaker 9 (01:04:20):
Dark place, spend a lot of money for tests you
don't need exactly, but there there is some valuable information.
But it's also important to have someone that can help
you interpret that to go forward, whether it be if
you get this done. You know, I know some medspas
offer it, but your primary care doctor can do it too,
and so someone to help you interpret what it means
so you can make the lifestyle changes you need.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Perfect son Jay Shevacrimani. He's our expert on Scotsland. Shi
the Fitness Guy. Fitness Doc at dine Well Doc is
his handle on social health, food, fitness and more and
he pops in every Thursday morning and talk about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Good.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
Good than man.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Good to see you again, Graty, Thank you for popping in.
Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
I got to get a time in it because we
got news on the way in just about four minutes
and we're I turned the shit you know Peachins here
from Epstein Justice dot com.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I'll tell you what the bad part, the awful part
about partisan politics is now you've got to defend people
on your team instead of finding out what the real
truth is. We'll get into that coming up next on
the show seven hundred WW Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
Don't want to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Scott Flow here seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
A couple of big stories going on of course, the
government reopening, and you wonder the timing of that, along
with the fact that the Democrats in the House Oversight
Committee dumped a whole bunch of emails, including one from
twenty nineteen which Jeffrey Epstein alleges that President Trump quote
knew about the girls behind the scenes. You had a
bunch of administration officials meeting with representatives they thought vulnerable.

(01:05:41):
Do would agree Representative Lauren Bobert maybe not vulnerable. Those
who want to play ball met with her about the
effort to force a House vote.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
On the release. They tried to get her to pull
her name. She refused.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
She's one of four Republicans, including Kentucky's Thomas Massey, to
go against the party, which I think is interesting because
we talked about transparency and let's release the records on
the campaign trail, and then when your name is in there,
all of a sudden, well maybe not so much. But
on the other hand, you wonder how many Democrats are there,
because that committee is going to be very selective about
the records they release. Republicans dropped about twenty thousand on

(01:06:13):
their own as well, and you wonder what names are
in there. I'm in the camp of just release it
all and let's figure it out. He's Pete chin Now,
founder of epstein Justice dot Com. And I like it
because they're a nonpartisan organization, grassroots, a bunch of folks
who got together sick and tired of this and sickened
by the fact that young women in particular are being
victimized by the wealthy and powerful and connected, and it's

(01:06:34):
been a conspiracy for a long time, and so it
just wants to get the truth. I think you're with
me on that peak. Just looking through your site quickly here.
First of all, welcome. Secondly, I look at it and go,
you know, just we'll release it all. And there's going
to be Democrats, Republicans and a whole bunch of people
who are caught up in this thing. But again, it
gets to show you the protectionism that power affords.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
No question about it, Scott. And first of all, thanks
of all, thanks for.

Speaker 8 (01:06:59):
Having me on.

Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
And second of all, you're right. This issue isn't going away.
And the reason it's not going away is because the majority,
and I mean a vast majority of the American people
of both parties and those of no party all agree
that transparency is the only thing that is going to
sunlight is going to be the only disinfectant that can
possibly erase this stain. What I call it is a

(01:07:24):
stain on the Republic. We actually don't know, and this
is the big problem, Scott. We don't actually know how
far the corruption goes, how deep it went, who all
was involved, who got paid, who was where did the
money come from, and where did it all go. And
at the end of the day, Scott, at the end
of the day, what's most important to Epstein Justice and

(01:07:46):
Epstein Justice dot Com is that these victims finally get
some sense of justice. You know, this is the largest
potentially child sex trafficking operation that's ever existed on US soil,
and the only person that has.

Speaker 7 (01:08:01):
Faced any kind of punishment is Dwayne.

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
Maxwell, and she's currently at the Pushift federal facility we have,
having been transferred from one only slightly more onerous. So
we've got a problem. In the United States. The vast
majority of both parties and those of no party want proof,
they want transparency, and they want these files released because

(01:08:23):
irrespective of which party is involved, and let's face it,
we both know that members of both parties are likely involved.
Whoever is involved should have their name exposed and at
a minimum subjected to public approbation. But perhaps there should
be some legal consequences for some of these folks too,
who facilitated the movement of money, who facilitated the movement

(01:08:47):
of people. And at this point, only one person has
faced any sort of consequences, And it is a national
crisis in part because we don't actually know what Jeffrey
Epstein's full motivations were. Was he sponsored by a government?
How did he become to be a near billionaire himself,
a guy who had parents that were middle class people

(01:09:08):
in Queen's We don't know the answers to these questions,
but the American people know one thing, Scott. There's something
rotten here and it's not going to get dealt with
by any other way than getting to all the facts.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Well, this is this is an indictment.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I think of our political parties that both are protecting
their their own kind. And we'll get into that in
a second, but let's get to these email releases here
that just came out so democratical.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
These emails.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Epstein wrote that Trump knew about the girls, and Trump
asked Helene to stop and there's one in twenty eleven,
and this is the cryptic one. And you've studied all
of this documentation. There's a lot of six stuff in
the Epstein files if you look under the hood, and
it's it's horrible. But wrote at one time, I want
you to realize that the dog in that the I
want you to realize that the dog has embarked in

(01:09:58):
Trump and he's hours at my house with him. He's
never once been mentioned. You hear those communications. What's your
analysis and what does that mean about the dog?

Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
I think all of that means is that President Trump
had knowledge that Jeffrey Epstein liked underage girls. But you
know what, that shouldn't really be any sort of mystery.
He disclosed in a New Yorker article in two thousand
and two that Jeffrey Epstein's a lot of fun. He
likes girls.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
Some say he likes.

Speaker 6 (01:10:27):
Beautiful women as much as I do, some even on
the younger side. Now, President Trump ran the miss Kean
US faith aagint, so for him to say that Jeffrey
Epstein likes women on the younger side or girls on
the younger side, that tells you that he had knowledge.
But then again, almost all of the elites in public

(01:10:48):
life had knowledge that Jeffrey Epstein was a child sex trafficker.
This was one of the most open secrets in American society,
and people as high as Bill Clinton listen. This spans,
This corruption spans the administrations going all the way back
to George W. Bush and encompass encompasses all of them,

(01:11:11):
both Democrat and Republican, across that time period. It was
the George W. Bush administration that allowed Jeffrey Epstein to
receive a sweetheart deal instead of getting buried under the
prison for the clear evidence that they had of child
sex trafficking. They had dozens of affidavits against him, did
the Palm City police. No one was more frustrated by

(01:11:33):
the outcome of that case than the police, who corrupt
plected all of the evidence against him, which was and
still remains substantial. So questions that remain about how that
happened in two thousand and five under the George W.
Bush administration haven't been answered, much less why the whole
situation was ignored under two terms of Obama, a term

(01:11:55):
of Biden, and of course President Trump's first term as well.
When Jeffrey Trump was re arrested. Why would Jeffrey Trump
re arrest it? We still literally don't have a good
insight into that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
There were questions and answers, largely because, well, you know,
we have those no Kings protests and are you followed
any of that stuff? I'll laugh, because you know, it's
a lot of the same things that they're protesting against
their own party does and general that's Democrats. But I
think people don't realize that this is a different class
of people entirely. Not necessarily the deep state stuff because

(01:12:26):
that goes with the territory, but the fact that the rich,
the elite, the powerful are connected and they swim in
the same fish.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Take. You think it's about politics, it's not. It's about
us and them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
And I think most Americans want to see all these
documents released now. The twenty thousand released by the Republicans
a huge document dump. The same day Democrats release these
three emails.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
What's in that? Have you looked through it?

Speaker 6 (01:12:49):
I certainly haven't had time to four through twenty thousand
pages the email, But what I have done is I've
reviewed some of the coverage of it, and the reality
is that this is this document dump without any real investigation.
Just here's raw files.

Speaker 8 (01:13:05):
Here they are.

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
This is why we at Epstein Justice. We're not calling
for simply a release of the files. We're calling for
a non partisan congressional investigation that would involve members of
both parties acting in good faith to expose this and
in reality, creating such a commission only requires a simple
majority of both parties, but it requires a good faith

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willingness on the members of Congress to hold the executive
branch to account. Look, this has covered both administrations, so
or rather both parties over multiple administrations. So this really
is a non partisan issue, which is why we are
a non partisan organization. If you wanted to put some
kind of label on it, it's like you said, it's
us in them. If you wanted to get fancy, you

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could call it a class issue, because it really is.
It's the wealthy people. I mean, we can't live in
a country scott where billionaires can take our daughters and
rape them with impunity and face no consequences. That's what
we're talking about, and that's why we have to fight
as Americans, and we urge every American to call their

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member of Congress, both in the Senate and in the
House and say, hey, we demand you members of Congress
do your jobs, form a commission and investigate this on
a nonpartisan basis, so all the facts can come to life,
and those who need to be held accountable can finally
be held accountable. So Scott, we can finally get some

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sense of justice for the dozens, perhaps hundreds. In fact,
the Department of Justice says over a thousand victims of
Jeffrey Epstein's criminal child sex trafficking network.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Yeah, I mean, here's here's the thing with and this
says a lot to me and base and of course
the politics of it behind the scenes, but even more
so than that, I look at it and go, okay, well,
Trump says, hey, there's nothing here, don't worry about It's
a nothing burger, no big deal. On the trail, he's
gonna we're gonna work, going to dump all this stuff.
And of course back those backed up from that position.

(01:15:04):
But you look at maxwell statement about Trump and she
said I never saw him in any appropriate setting. You
saw what Jeffria said before she took her own life,
and say, you know, Trump is it's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
If that's the case, then you think you'd have nothing
to hide.

Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
Then well, and that's that's part of the irony, isn't
It's got that if you ask the executive branch. And
by the way, my last job in the Air Force
was I was a liaison from the executive branch to
the congressional branch. Which is why I can tell you
with some authority that the executive branch's official position on
everything is don't tell Congress anything. And so this is

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why Congress has to force the executive branch really to
disclose much of anything, because it's the executive branch's view.
And this is again across administrations, it's not exclusive to
the Trump administration. But the executive branch's view is that, hey,
we need this information to be We don't want to
disclose anything that might embarrass the government, that might embarrass

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any powerful officials. We don't want to dispose anything that
might harm national security, whatever that means, and so and
so it's the executive branch's role to keep secrets. Well,
it's the Congress's role. It's the congressional branch's role to
get the executive branch to disclose those secrets. And that's

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and it's as simple as that.

Speaker 7 (01:16:23):
In our system.

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
But the issue though is that in order to get
Congress to do their job, especially these days, you have
to have a mass movement, a real mass movement, not
one that's AstroTurf with fake money. And by the way,
we don't have any money. This is all a grassroots effort.
We're all volunteers. None of us are getting paid, you
can believe that. And so and so we're trying to

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urge every American to say, look, this just isn't tolerable.
We need the facts in this case. And I believe
that if every American comes together and frankly, the show
that as many as eighty percent of all Americans and
this cuts across party lines, think that the Epstein file
should be fully related and that this matter should be

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fully investigat.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
No question.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Is with Epstein Justice dot Com. He's a found we're
talking about this, this document done. But that's the problem, right,
I mean, there are so many people, not not all,
but so many people on Trump's side that are just
silent about this whole thing, and of course Speaker Johnson
trying his best to subvert this whole process. It shows you,
as you just described, the partisanship in Washington that's killing us.
If you can't get justice for underage girls of victims

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of pedophilia.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Let's call it what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Then you start to lose hope here because it's so
partisan and so divided. We'll protect our own at all costs,
and you look at the effect we had with this
government shutdown. Congress has one job. Their job is to
pass a budget. I have only done it twice in
my lifetime.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
We allow that to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Occur as voters, as taxpayers, as citizens. The fact that
we have completely given the authority to the executive branch
and taken away Congress is factless.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
They don't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Everything is done, and it was on Biden and it's
also on Trump relative to executive order. And so if
you just have executive orders coming out, you don't really
don't need Congress.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
And that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
They don't want to do their job basically and oversee
the executive branch when their person's in power.

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
I agree with you, and that's become a huge problem.
But at the end of the day, I still am
a believer in the American system. I fought for this country.
I served in uniform for thirty six years. I'm a
combat veteran, and I believe in our constitution. That's what
I swore an oath too, That's what I fought for,
and I still believe in that document, and I still
believe that in America, the average citizen, banded together with

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his fellow American citizens, can have an impact and make
our Congress do what we want them to do. Because ultimately,
you're right, Scott, if we don't have a Congress that
is willing to act in accord with the overwhelming will
of the American people than what we have as an
authoritarian say, and nobody wants to live in a country

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that's not a democracy. We are America. We get things
done because we've been together as people and we decide
that we're going to do what's right. We've done it
for two hundred and fifty years, and we're going to
do it in this case. I believe that, and I'm
gonna I'm gonna let I mean, I know that's an
upbeat and optimistic note story this dark, but you know,

(01:19:28):
I wouldn't be doing this, Scott, if I didn't believe
it was possible. You know, great changes in America take
great effort, and they take a long time, and oftentimes
they take money which is something we don't have. You know,
my co founder doesn't like to talk about raising money,
but I have to tell you billionaires aren't taking our
fall Scott, and they're not interested in this. They're interested

(01:19:49):
in covering this up. So if anybody would like to
go to Epsteinjustice dot com and make a donation, we
would certainly welcome that to help continue these efforts in
this work.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Yeah, well, God bless it's a grassroots effort. Any money
off this and I just just get the truth out.
I think I speak for a lot of people going,
let's find out what's in there, who's in there, and
we'll make our own minds up and let justice take course.
But this is not justice, not at all. Peach In
at Epstein Justice dot com. Thanks for the input I
appreciated got.

Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
Thanks for having me. I look forward to talking to
you again sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Yes, sir, I thought it was excellent, was really really good.

Speaker 8 (01:20:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
A lot more questions and answers right now, And the
politics behind the scene is icky. You know, I don't
know quite honestly. I for those people who believe in
God and family and country, those thing three things are
coming together right now. I don't understand As someone who
votes generally Republican, I tend to be more independent and

(01:20:41):
make my own mind up and more to libertarian. But
not many libertarian candidates on the ballot. But even there's
problems with libertarian candidates. What about just doing the right
thing and putting kids over politics. And yet there's a
lot of people in our government and a lot of
enablers that will look the other waiter in this end
there's nothing there. Because while I was told there's nothing there,

(01:21:01):
I didn't buy that with a Catholic church. I'm not
buying it with my government. Scott's Sloan Show, seven hundred
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Speaker 8 (01:21:09):
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or meek. The real estate world can be a vicious
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Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
Boss.

Speaker 8 (01:21:19):
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Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
Well? Hello, the sun is shining. The UH shutdown is over?

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Did you see the northern light last night.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
No, I was sleeping.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
It's on the story the other morning. It's like you
looking out the window, going, I don't see the northern lights.
You know it's because you're what.

Speaker 7 (01:21:54):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
It wasn't looking No, I wasn't looking south.

Speaker 8 (01:21:58):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
It is not south out that window. It's still in
the northerly either north or south.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
There's no near near north. It's almost north. It's almost north,
halfway between north and south of the east or west. Yeah, anyway, anyway,
it's fine. We didn't see it in person because a
I was sleeping. You're next bucket list because Australia was
a bucket list.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Do you want to see the northern line?

Speaker 6 (01:22:25):
I know you.

Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
I do want to see the northern lights. But you
know what, here's the thing. I feel like that might
be falling down on my list of things that I
would like to do.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
All right, what's next?

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
Because you know what when you usually when you see
the northern lights, Yeah, you have to be somewhere where
it's really cold, It's true, and yeah, oh you're not.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
You don't have to be outside to see the northern lights.
You could be inside.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
Maybe I would, you know, if I could be in
one of those little domes.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
I think, yeah, I think they have those.

Speaker 5 (01:23:00):
There's never any guarantee that you're going to see the
darn things. I've heard horror stories people spending thousands of
dollars to go see the northern lights and then they
don't happen. I don't know, I'm I I think that
that might be falling off the list.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Okay, all right, fair enough. I don't know. You can
do the cheap version of this.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Go to Cleveland and just close your eyes and rub
your thumbs really hard in your eyelids when they're closed,
Look northern lights. Okay, let's look towards Canada. The north side. No,
that's that's south. The other the other window, the other window.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
Oh my gosh, fine, same thing. Just fine, close your eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
All right, let's talk about I imagine the topic today
is going to be the fifty year mortgage.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
I can feel you, I could sense you champions to
talk about this.

Speaker 5 (01:23:47):
It is because it is. I don't want to say
that it's the dumbest thing that I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
No, don't ever say that. God, don't say that, because
somebody's going to go hold my beer. We had a
guy in Pennsylvan who was cleaning his shotgun loaded and
his dog jumped on the bed and shot him. Oh,
so don't say it's the dumbest thing you've heard today,
because that would be the dumbest thing you've heard today.

Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Yeah the dog.

Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
Yeah, we're going to smell he kill him? Did he
kill us? I don't know the whole story there, but
the guy got shot, so oh yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
that's that's pretty dumb anyway. So this idea was floated
by our president and the administration showing the comparison of

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the thirty year mortgage with Franklin Delano Roosevelt and a
proposed fifty year mortgage a lah Trump. I guess. So
the fh FA, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and the
director he said, you know what, we are working on
a fifty year mortgage, and it's a complete game changer.

Speaker 7 (01:24:56):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Okay, you want to go back to two thousand and eight, Well,
that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
So the aim and the thought process, and if you
dig into it a little bit deeper from someone that
is our age fifty year mortgage, we will not see
the end of that fifty year mortgage. If we try
to live to the end of the fifty year mortgage,
we're basically passing on debt to our children or whoever

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ends up selling the property that we own with a
fifty year mortgage on it. So, you know, just if
you're thinking long term, thirty years is a long time.
Even depends on how much you like your kids. I guess, well,
I suppose if you want to leave them with a
whole budge of debt, that's fine. But the purpose of
this thought process of the fifty year mortgage. The aim

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is to relieve monthly payments, so having payments be less
and improve access to home ownership. But here's the thing.
We have a low supply of homes. So that's not
going to change mad because the supply and demand issue
is not going to change magically because we have a
fifty year mortgage. And if whose bright idea is going

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from the average right now is a thirty year mortgage
and jump all the way to fifty that's like going
you know, to eleventy billion. I mean, it just seems
so far away.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
If it's forty your mortgages, we were like, okay, fifteen
to thirty year right.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
And there have been talk of forty year mortgages, but
I've never seen anybody use one, and I don't know
how many products are available in the lending world that
offer forty year mortgages. You know, here's the thing, you're
going to pay more. Everybody complains about, you know, the
cost of interest rates. Mortgage interest rates are high. Guess

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what with the fifty year mortgage, your interest rate is
going to be higher than it would be with a
thirty year mortgage.

Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
Why is it?

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
Well, because you know what it's it's more of a
risk for the lender. You know, it's all about risk.
It's a higher risk for the lender. A fifty year
mortgage means the lender has their money tied up for
fifty years, So there's more risk for the lender. The
lender is not going to take any risk, Are you kidding?
And then think about it. So usually when you're in

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a thirty year mortgage, the first couple of years, not
couple even the first ten years, you're paying mostly interest.
You're not really paying down the debt, got it. And
so if you think about a fifty year mortgage, just
double it the first twenty years. Maybe you're not even
paying down any debt. So why don't you think about Okay,

(01:27:38):
I just thought about this in my brains while we
were talking, So this should be really good real you know,
why not just do an interest only loan because you're
not building any equity with that, and those products are available.
An interest only loan, you pay less and you never

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ever basically as you either have to sell the property
or you have to get a different product to get
another loan, but you never pay down the debt. So
if you take it two hundred thousand dollars loan and
you only and you're an interest only loan, you just
pay the interest on that loan, you're never.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Paying back the isn't that just rent?

Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
But you still own the property?

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
No you don't. The bank owns the property.

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
Well okay, all right, well technically you are right you're
paying rent. No, you're right, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Well what's the advantage of buying a house if you're
just paying the interest? I it's amazing that they can
get away with this kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
Well, and I don't know that they will, you know,
I don't know that this is actually going to become
a sing when you look at it. So how much
are you going to save? Right, that's the big question.
So the thought process is younger buyers can't afford a mortgage,
so let's get them into a fifty year mortgage. If
you're twenty five years old, you know you'll be seventy five.

(01:29:07):
You're not going to pay it off. And here's the thing,
how long do you stay in your home? I always
tell people, even with a regular thirty year mortgage or
a fifteen or whatever, when you're buying a home, your
best bet is to stay in that home at least
five years so that you can build some equity.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Got it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Here's the thing. Fifty year mortgage, You're never going to
build equity. You are passing deck to future generations. You're
never going to get ahead. You're always going to be
chasing your tail. And that's the one thing that makes
me absolutely crazy that anybody in an administrative with a brain. Yeah,
and I know that everybody, everybody in my industry is

(01:29:48):
just going absolutely berserk. It's a great talking point. And
the savings isn't that much.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
It's like, so I saw someone do the maths on this, Michelle,
and I think like a half million dollar loan. It
was I think it was basically two hundred dollars less
a month, I mean two hundreds, I mean fifty bucks
a week. You look at well, you know you're paying,
but you're just paying the bank. It's like having a
credit card never paying the balance off.

Speaker 5 (01:30:14):
Correct. Absolutely, it is that you're constantly chasing your tail.
So if you have a thirty year mortgage at six
point twenty five percent, your monthly payment is going to be.
This is for a four hundred thousand dollars home. So
just try to do some easy math. So a four
hundred thousand dollars loan, which is pretty typical, maybe a
little high for our area, but anyway, so thirty years,

(01:30:38):
six and a quarter monthly payment is about twenty four
hundred dollars. Over thirty years, you end up paying about
eight hundred and eighty seven thousand. So you're doubling what
because if you make every payment, if you include all
the interest on a four hundred thousand dollars loan, you're
paying four hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars in interest,

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all right, And you're thinking about this, it's like, Wow,
that four hundred thousand dollars home is really worth eight
hundred thousand dollars at least, it's what you're putting into
it now. If you do a fifty year mortgage, and
the estimate would be about six point eight percent, so
about a half a percent higher. Your monthly payments are

(01:31:24):
twenty two hundred, so that saves you two hundred dollars
a month. Okay, spread out over six hundred months, you're
paying one point three three zero over a million dollars
one point three million dollars for a loan for a

(01:31:45):
four hundred thousand dollars house.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
The other side of this, too is a lot of
people will tap into home equity in order to fix
it up, because houses, while they break the fixed stuff,
where you going to.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Tap into that money in the future, Well, there won't be.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
You won't.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
You won't have the money. It's kind of like we saw,
you know, like the subprime auto market. For example, right
car everything's going up with inflesh and so car prices
go up, so order dealers just tack on extra months
to the loan for if you're less credit worthy, will
just stretch it over five, six, eight years or whatever
it is. And so just like the housing crisis in
a eight or with kind of cars a little less

(01:32:19):
than a home because of property values and such. But
nonetheless does go okay, well I repossess it or I'll
turn my keys in and the lenders wind up getting
big losses as well. And if you trade your car
and you can't afford a new one because you know
more than your car's worth, how's that different than we
did in O eight?

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
Isn't that setting this up for that?

Speaker 5 (01:32:36):
I believe, in my opinion, in my humble opinion, it's
setting up future generations to fail. And you know, there
are already future generations, our kids, our kids' kids, they're
already at a disadvantage to a certain extent financially because
the price of you know, the price of entry is

(01:32:58):
so high. This is this is not the answer. A
fifty year mortgage is not the answer. Now, some people,
you know, you may hear people in my industry even saying, oh,
well you can just refinance. Yeah, that's more money in
the pockets of lenders.

Speaker 8 (01:33:16):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
Every time you refinance, you got to pay closing costs.
Most of the time. Again, there are some lenders who
will waive that if you do it within a certain
period of time, or some lenders will you know, they'll
offer some incentives or lower but no matter what, you're
not if you get a refin aanswer, you're gonna get

(01:33:37):
a new loan on a property. At any point you're
gonna pay. You're gonna pay extra, and that extra will
add up to months worth of monthly payments. So you're
saving two hundred dollars a month, But yet you're not
building equity. You're not building wealth. And that's the one
thing that I've always been able to say is when

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you buy, it's the greatest investment of your life, when
you buy property.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
It feels like Michelle, that this is going to be
one of those almost like the payday lenders and to
get a bad report, and people need payday lenders. I'm
not knocking it. I get what it is, but you know,
rent to own schemes and stuff like that as wells.
People are just gonna look at the monthly cost, go hey,
I'm saving two hundred dollars a month, sign me up,
and then they'll get hamstring with this loan and then
later complain about it. So I think this might be

(01:34:25):
predatory in a way, And I hate using that term
because it's so thrown around these days as well. I
mean all loans feel I mean college loans feel predatory
to me.

Speaker 7 (01:34:33):
So what do I know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
But in that case, you're gonna I think you're gonna
have that. People going, wow, you know, I just want
to have a safe place for as crime continues in
urban areas, for example, people going, look, if I can
get this for two hundred less a month, I don't
care that it's a fifty year loan. I just want out, sure,
But you wonder if that sets them up for success
or failure.

Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
Well, the one thing is, and I'm glad we're talking
about it because when we were getting those predatory loans
twenty years ago, when I first gotten to the business,
and when I was trying to figure out how in
the world are buyers getting money back when they buy
a home, because there was they didn't have to have

(01:35:10):
a down payment, they didn't have to have there was.
It was a setup to failed situation. Now, and you're right,
it's it's like buying a car. You know, they're not
going to tell you the big numbers because those are scary. Yeah,
this is a car for forty thousand dollars or whatever.
How much can you afford to pay? Per month, and

(01:35:30):
then they're going to put you in a product that
will get you to that number, But then they won't
tell you all of you know, you'll have to really
ask some hard questions as to what does that mean?
You know, Okay, you got me to my number. I
can afford it today, But what happens if I lose
my job? What happens? Do I have any equity if

(01:35:53):
I need to go and resell and sell my property? No,
you're not going to if if hope fully that home
has gone up in value, if you've been and there's
a lot of ifs, if you've been in that home
long enough, if you, like I said, it's to me,
it is a setup for failure. And guess what, people

(01:36:16):
are going to stay in their homes longer. There's not
going to be the turnover that we need for younger generations.
So right now, everybody's stuck in that home with a
three percent mortgage that we got whatever five ten years ago,
and nobody wants to get rid of that three three
percent mortgage. So they're holding onto their home and they

(01:36:36):
don't want to buy something for seven percent mortgage. So
what is this going to do. It's going to paralyze
our country. I'm sorry, I'm going to get a little
fired up about this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
I think I love it. I like feisty Michelle.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
That's the that's my girl right there, smart cookie, my wife,
Michelle Sloan with Remax Time and Sloan Cells homes dot
Com Open House Show. That's on the iHeartRadio app there
or Apple wherever you get your podcast, and of course
uh on YouTube as well too. So thanks again, love
your good stuff. Let's not do a fifty year mortgage
unless our kids really piss us off, and then we're.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
Gonna do it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:11):
We're gonna do like three of them.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
You can one hundred year.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Mortgage come with its generation, all right, don't upset mom?

Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Love you gotta go see I gotta get news in.
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Maybe not, I don't know. We'll find out who it
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