November 7, 2025 • 16 mins
Scott talks with attorney Jeff Meadows about Ohio Senate Bill 55 which would change the OVI rules.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you want to be in American Idio Scott's loan
on seven hundred W which you need to know this
morning is important if you're gonna have got to have
a good time this weekend or any time for that matter.
Encourage you not to drink and drive or smoke and
drive because it's just it's not worth it. But they're
changing the OVI laws, at least they want to. It's
Ohio Senate Bill fifty five, and that would definitely I'm
(00:22):
looking at this going.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I got a lot of issues with it. Namely, it's
not the smoking and the edibles and the stuff with
THHC and now especially with the cbdsah slash THC and
fused beverages that are extremely popular right now you can
get in bars at the General Assembly just figured out
how to do that. Now you're gonna get a whole
bunch of people who may enjoy those beverages that wind
(00:43):
up getting stopped and arrested and charged well after they
consume that beverage, like days later on that jeff Meadows
from the Law Metals Law Firm making sense of it. Jeffrey,
how's life great, Scot? Everything is fine? I could be
driving right now like I think you're on your way
to Batavia. You said, so this time a year with
the all with the leaves, and it looks good, beautiful,
absolutely gorgeous, nice little drive. So, uh, the bill pass
(01:05):
the Ohio Senate unanimously. It's in the House Judiciary Committee
and looks like it's going to move forward. So the
big question a while with them, because you're listening this going, well,
maybe I, you know, like to go out and have
a few drinks or smoke or whatever it is, can
you explain like what the problems they're trying to fix.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So there's two issues in under Ohio viilaw as it
relates to marijuana and marijuana by products. When we consume
a marijuana product, the chemical compound that gets us high
makes this happy, hungry, sleepy, whatever is delta nine THCHC
(01:44):
or what's commonly referred to as THHC. THHC then breaks
down into something called hydroxy THCHC, which is the first
past metabolite that further breaks down into something called carboxy THHC.
And under the current law, it's there is a per
(02:06):
se limit for metabolites and for actual THC. And when
I say a per see limit. Most people are familiar
with alcohol, it's point oh eight. If you're a point
o eight or higher, you're guilty. It doesn't matter whether
you're buzzed or hammered or not. Same thing with marijuana.
Prom with this is especially as it relates to the
metabolites is CARBOXYPHC. We currently have a limit of thirty
(02:32):
five nanograms in urine, and it doesn't matter if there's
thirty five nanograms of carboxy in your urine or thirty
five million. It has zero psychoactive properties. What that means
is it doesn't affect your ability to do anything. It
doesn't make god, it doesn't make you hungry, doesn't make
(02:53):
you tired, It doesn't affect your ability to stand, walk, talk,
or most importantly drive. So we've had this loss for
a number of years now, and anyone even prior to
the legalization of recreational marijuana. If you went to Las
Vegas and you got highs a kite and legally in
(03:14):
Las Vegas under Las Vegas ball not federal law. Course,
when you fly home and get in your car and
cross over the river into Ohio, you're guilty because this
carboxy THC metabolite is stored in your fat cells, and
it's going to be there's gonna be a different retention
(03:35):
period forever.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Got so instead of kind of bringing around with all
the numbers in that Jeff Metters, what you're saying is is, basically,
this would be like, we know that the alcohol is
a component with beer or wine or whiskey that gets
you drunk. Alcohol obviously evaporates quickly, you metabolize it fairly
quickly compared to this and once it's gone to suit
side of your system, but there could be some components
(03:57):
in that wine or beer whiskey that remain in your
body because it's a nutrient for lack of a better term,
and it's going to hang around till your body digest.
I'd be like testing for those components of it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It'd be like the apple flavor in I don't know,
Crown Royal, for example, hangs around longer than the alcohol does.
Be Okay, we got you because you've got too much
apple in your system. Same thing here. It's a component
that doesn't get you high, but it's an after effect
and artifact from the original product. So you know, it
could be two days, three days, which is why when
you have a drug test, you know, okay, well I
(04:27):
can't smoke for thirty days because it takes that long
for those metabolites to get out of your system. You're
not high in day twenty nine, but the metabolites are
still there.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Correct, And actually alcohol Scott has a metabolite. It's called
apple gluecoran EID or ETG. It hangs around in your
body for up to eighty hours. And some probation departments
who you know, they do urine test for ETG to
see if probation or inter drinking. So that'd be like
testing people that leave a judicial fundraiser, a prosecutors fundraiser,
(05:00):
e Lodgy testing them two days later, Hey, you're guilty,
and that would be moronic. So, but what SB fifty
five does. There is a per se limit for actual
THHC presently of two nanograms in your whole blood, and
(05:22):
SB fifty five raises that from two to five. And
in doing a little bit of prep for our discussion
this morning, I actually found an article that was submitted
by an opponent of Senate Bill fifty five, and it's
a seven page letter that is actually I was very
(05:45):
skeptical going into it. But I read and I'm like,
this guy's pretty smart, and it talks about how people,
based on scientific studies, chronic users of marijuana product can
test five nanograms any time of the day when they're
not impaired whatsoever. And the crux of this letter to
(06:08):
the Senate was that any per se limit for marijuana
is still advised. And again it's it's based in some
pretty solid studies. There was one study from a guy
over in Europe that I've actually attended some of his
(06:28):
lectures right in aw Jones, And this is actually cites
actual science, which oftentimes our General Assembly doesn't well, they.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Don't want to look at Jeff Meadows.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It made me think of what we've just talked about
previously with like the CBD you know, can't drink bands
and stuff because the craft beer industry is fading out
and a local brewery's Ryan Geist fifty West, all those
guys are coming up with new products. And it was
you know, CBD infused or THC infused drinks, and there's
a nuance between the THC that you extract from and
(07:03):
you know, from from hamp and from from marijuana, and
there's a nuance there, and I get that. I don't
want to mingle the two together. But point it is
people drinking and go wow, I like the feeling better
than alcohol by drinking these THC and fused drinks that
comes from hamp and not marijuana. Would would this all
get caught in there too? So someone who's maybe you go, hey, man,
I don't care. I don't you know. I don't use
(07:24):
tin cheer, I don't smoke, I don't do edibles, but
I enjoyed the THHC infused beverages. Would would people also
be subject to this? Does that work as well?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So the short answer is yes. Delta THHC, which is
largely what's derived from the hemp product, can cause you
to test positive or over certain limits depending on the
frequency and quantity of use for the marijuana metabolite. So
Cinebill fifty five was a wife bipartisanville. It passed the
(07:57):
Senate unanimously, and now it's in the House Judiciary Committee,
and it completely eliminated this metabolite section of our OVII
Wall forty five eleven nineteen of the Higher Revised Code.
So first glance, it's awesome because it completely gets rid
of the per se component of metabolite. It does say
(08:20):
that a finder of facts, whether it's a judge or jury,
can consider a chemical test namely learned along with any
other competent evidence, an officer's observation, you know, what he smells,
what he sees on your performance. But the problem again
(08:42):
is that the carboxy THHC, which is typically the only
thing you're ever going to see identified any urine test,
is not psychoactive, so there shouldn't be impairment psychomotor skills
or fields based solely on marijuana.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
MATAE interesting does that well? Actually, by the way, Jeff Meadows,
he's an attorney metals law from one of the great
ov I attorneys. It's Ohio Senate Bill fifty five. And
even if you don't live on know how, you should
know this because it changes our ov E laws and
basically the way it changes metabolite testing for OVA metabolizer
will fill over the byproduct from using thhc so marijuana
(09:20):
or in this case, some of those thhd infused beverages
that the state legislatures will wound up cleaning up, so
you can continue to enjoy those, if you drink those,
if you smoke edibles, whatever. You could be jammed up
in this thing because the metabolites or this hang around
much much longer than the effects, the high effects that
you'd have. It's kind of like, you know, doing a
(09:41):
breathalyzer test after you had a few drinks three or
four or five or twenty nine days later. It's not fair,
And I wonder. I can't help but think that this
is like a de facto way to get people to
use less marijuana, because we know the state legislature absolutely
hates anyone who uses marijuana. They fought tooth and nail
against all this thing for whatever reason. Is this a
way to undermine the demand for it?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's a good question. Are telling what they're thinking. But
you know, there's some good language in this, like I said,
eliminating the person day limits for the metabolize, you know,
and if you're sitting at home in the evening watching
Super Troopers and then marijuana, you shouldn't be convicted of
(10:30):
an ov I for driving to work the next day
when the active THHD is gone.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
He is a Jeff Meadows Attorney's a lawyer, scientist, the
metals law firm. Ov I guy, and again it's an
Ohio Senate Bill fifty five pass unanimously, a change ov
I laws. If you got pulled over on a Friday.
Let's say you get pulled over on a Friday night,
take me through that stop. If you had some of
these metabolites in your system. Let's say you're out having
some of those beverages that have THC in them. Maybe
(10:55):
you did that on Friday and it's now Sunday and
you get pulled over before lane violation and the officer
suspects that you have you've been pulled over and you've
been using I don't know, either alcohol or that type
of drug. How do you defend that? What's the process
like from the first out?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well, honestly, Scott, I mean this is the starting point.
If I'm going to go out and have beverages, I
actually uber from home. That way, I'm never tempted to
drive you home. Yeah, and it amazes me. I still
have a job with all the rideshare opportunities. But if
you do, because it is legal to drink and then
get in the cars, why there's parking lot at every bar. Right,
(11:36):
you know, always be polite, respectful, hand your documents to
the officer. Quite frankly, I'm a fan rolling the window
all the way down. This bull craft of cracking your
window and sliding your license out. Everybody knows what that's about.
Your hiding something. Just roll your damn winded down and
give them your documents. Let that car air out a
little bit. When they ask you if you've had anything
(11:58):
to drink or smoke or edibles, I think at that
point you just invoke your constitutional right. The officer, I'd
like to have an attorney if you want to question me.
I really don't want to answer any questions. It is
none of their business where you're coming from and where
you're going to. So when they say so, where are
(12:19):
you coming from? Officer, not answering that question? Where are
you headed? Not answering that question either. If you want
to keep questioning me, I'd like to talk field lawyer.
We can call Medos right now. His numbers three h nine,
jeffs my mood right. When they tell you to get
out of the car, get out. They've got fifty thousand
(12:41):
bolts on their hip to coerce you if you don't.
And then I recommend nobody do feel sobrieties, especially the
eye test when they're moving their finger or pin across
your field of vision. They're looking for a neurological condition
called nice stagnus. Most of the people who administered the
test on a regular basis have more education than these
(13:03):
officers do. They're called brain surgeons, and it's a test
that's administered routinely every day in neurology and ophthalmology offices.
These are people that have significant education and experience. When
you've got an officer doing these tests and you're looking
into the sun, you're looking at rotating lights. They're doing
(13:24):
it on the side of the road with cars going
buy a fifty five or eighty miles an hour. Overwhelmingly,
Now that we have body warn camera, I can zoom
in on my client's face and see that there is
verifiably no nice stagnats, even though the officers believe they
see it. And I don't think they're lying when they
put it in their own Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
(13:46):
it's confirmation by it, right, Yeah, And that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's why you never you know, you have lawyers and
judges and they get pulled. They never take the test.
You just say, listen, I'm not doing anying. I'll talk
to an attorney, can they force you to take a
blood alcohol test, you've got to get a quart order
for that.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Right, Yeah, you got to have a war Yeah. And
you know, like the doormat at my in my house
has come back with a.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Warrant, come back with a warrant. Yeah, that's a bad
and that's that's just one on one kind of stuff there.
But they changed these laws and then you wonder, Okay, well,
is it just gonna make it? Is? Is it? Is
it a de facto way to prevent people from enjoying
what we wanted and that is recreational and in cases
medicinal marijuana and Ohio is Jeff Meadow's attorney with the
Metals law firm. What's that number again?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Five nine, Jeff is myself. Hopefully it's going to be
going up here tonight. Well, I hope not.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's the thing is, it's like, you know, it's a
you represent your clients very very well, you're the best, uh,
but at the same times, like you shouldn't do it,
and you wouldn't have to call Jeff And because it's
a it's a pain in the ass. From what I understand,
I've never done it. I hope never have to call you, Jeff,
I'm trying, in my almost sixty years of life never
to do that. So all the best, buddy, have a
good one. I appreciate the insight. Thank you two. Have
(15:00):
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Interesting observation. All of the people that they have had
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(15:21):
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(15:43):
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Do you want to be in American Idio Scott's loan
on seven hundred W which you need to know this
morning is important if you're gonna have got to have
a good time this weekend or any time for that matter.
Encourage you not to drink and drive or smoke and
drive because it's just it's not worth it. But they're
changing the OVI laws, at least they want to. It's
Ohio Senate Bill fifty five, and that would definitely I'm
(00:22):
looking at this going.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I got a lot of issues with it. Namely, it's
not the smoking and the edibles and the stuff with
THHC and now especially with the cbdsah slash THC and
fused beverages that are extremely popular right now you can
get in bars at the General Assembly just figured out
how to do that. Now you're gonna get a whole
bunch of people who may enjoy those beverages that wind
(00:43):
up getting stopped and arrested and charged well after they
consume that beverage, like days later on that jeff Meadows
from the Law Metals Law Firm making sense of it. Jeffrey,
how's life great, Scot? Everything is fine? I could be
driving right now like I think you're on your way
to Batavia. You said, so this time a year with
the all with the leaves, and it looks good, beautiful,
absolutely gorgeous, nice little drive. So, uh, the bill pass
(01:05):
the Ohio Senate unanimously. It's in the House Judiciary Committee
and looks like it's going to move forward. So the
big question a while with them, because you're listening this going, well,
maybe I, you know, like to go out and have
a few drinks or smoke or whatever it is, can
you explain like what the problems they're trying to fix.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So there's two issues in under Ohio viilaw as it
relates to marijuana and marijuana by products. When we consume
a marijuana product, the chemical compound that gets us high
makes this happy, hungry, sleepy, whatever is delta nine THCHC
(01:44):
or what's commonly referred to as THHC. THHC then breaks
down into something called hydroxy THCHC, which is the first
past metabolite that further breaks down into something called carboxy THHC.
And under the current law, it's there is a per
(02:06):
se limit for metabolites and for actual THC. And when
I say a per see limit. Most people are familiar
with alcohol, it's point oh eight. If you're a point
o eight or higher, you're guilty. It doesn't matter whether
you're buzzed or hammered or not. Same thing with marijuana.
Prom with this is especially as it relates to the
metabolites is CARBOXYPHC. We currently have a limit of thirty
(02:32):
five nanograms in urine, and it doesn't matter if there's
thirty five nanograms of carboxy in your urine or thirty
five million. It has zero psychoactive properties. What that means
is it doesn't affect your ability to do anything. It
doesn't make god, it doesn't make you hungry, doesn't make
(02:53):
you tired, It doesn't affect your ability to stand, walk, talk,
or most importantly drive. So we've had this loss for
a number of years now, and anyone even prior to
the legalization of recreational marijuana. If you went to Las
Vegas and you got highs a kite and legally in
(03:14):
Las Vegas under Las Vegas ball not federal law. Course,
when you fly home and get in your car and
cross over the river into Ohio, you're guilty because this
carboxy THC metabolite is stored in your fat cells, and
it's going to be there's gonna be a different retention
(03:35):
period forever.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Got so instead of kind of bringing around with all
the numbers in that Jeff Metters, what you're saying is is, basically,
this would be like, we know that the alcohol is
a component with beer or wine or whiskey that gets
you drunk. Alcohol obviously evaporates quickly, you metabolize it fairly
quickly compared to this and once it's gone to suit
side of your system, but there could be some components
(03:57):
in that wine or beer whiskey that remain in your
body because it's a nutrient for lack of a better term,
and it's going to hang around till your body digest.
I'd be like testing for those components of it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It'd be like the apple flavor in I don't know,
Crown Royal, for example, hangs around longer than the alcohol does.
Be Okay, we got you because you've got too much
apple in your system. Same thing here. It's a component
that doesn't get you high, but it's an after effect
and artifact from the original product. So you know, it
could be two days, three days, which is why when
you have a drug test, you know, okay, well I
(04:27):
can't smoke for thirty days because it takes that long
for those metabolites to get out of your system. You're
not high in day twenty nine, but the metabolites are
still there.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Correct, And actually alcohol Scott has a metabolite. It's called
apple gluecoran EID or ETG. It hangs around in your
body for up to eighty hours. And some probation departments
who you know, they do urine test for ETG to
see if probation or inter drinking. So that'd be like
testing people that leave a judicial fundraiser, a prosecutors fundraiser,
(05:00):
e Lodgy testing them two days later, Hey, you're guilty,
and that would be moronic. So, but what SB fifty
five does. There is a per se limit for actual
THHC presently of two nanograms in your whole blood, and
(05:22):
SB fifty five raises that from two to five. And
in doing a little bit of prep for our discussion
this morning, I actually found an article that was submitted
by an opponent of Senate Bill fifty five, and it's
a seven page letter that is actually I was very
(05:45):
skeptical going into it. But I read and I'm like,
this guy's pretty smart, and it talks about how people,
based on scientific studies, chronic users of marijuana product can
test five nanograms any time of the day when they're
not impaired whatsoever. And the crux of this letter to
(06:08):
the Senate was that any per se limit for marijuana
is still advised. And again it's it's based in some
pretty solid studies. There was one study from a guy
over in Europe that I've actually attended some of his
(06:28):
lectures right in aw Jones, And this is actually cites
actual science, which oftentimes our General Assembly doesn't well, they.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Don't want to look at Jeff Meadows.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It made me think of what we've just talked about
previously with like the CBD you know, can't drink bands
and stuff because the craft beer industry is fading out
and a local brewery's Ryan Geist fifty West, all those
guys are coming up with new products. And it was
you know, CBD infused or THC infused drinks, and there's
a nuance between the THC that you extract from and
(07:03):
you know, from from hamp and from from marijuana, and
there's a nuance there, and I get that. I don't
want to mingle the two together. But point it is
people drinking and go wow, I like the feeling better
than alcohol by drinking these THC and fused drinks that
comes from hamp and not marijuana. Would would this all
get caught in there too? So someone who's maybe you go, hey, man,
I don't care. I don't you know. I don't use
(07:24):
tin cheer, I don't smoke, I don't do edibles, but
I enjoyed the THHC infused beverages. Would would people also
be subject to this? Does that work as well?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So the short answer is yes. Delta THHC, which is
largely what's derived from the hemp product, can cause you
to test positive or over certain limits depending on the
frequency and quantity of use for the marijuana metabolite. So
Cinebill fifty five was a wife bipartisanville. It passed the
(07:57):
Senate unanimously, and now it's in the House Judiciary Committee,
and it completely eliminated this metabolite section of our OVII
Wall forty five eleven nineteen of the Higher Revised Code.
So first glance, it's awesome because it completely gets rid
of the per se component of metabolite. It does say
(08:20):
that a finder of facts, whether it's a judge or jury,
can consider a chemical test namely learned along with any
other competent evidence, an officer's observation, you know, what he smells,
what he sees on your performance. But the problem again
(08:42):
is that the carboxy THHC, which is typically the only
thing you're ever going to see identified any urine test,
is not psychoactive, so there shouldn't be impairment psychomotor skills
or fields based solely on marijuana.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
MATAE interesting does that well? Actually, by the way, Jeff Meadows,
he's an attorney metals law from one of the great
ov I attorneys. It's Ohio Senate Bill fifty five. And
even if you don't live on know how, you should
know this because it changes our ov E laws and
basically the way it changes metabolite testing for OVA metabolizer
will fill over the byproduct from using thhc so marijuana
(09:20):
or in this case, some of those thhd infused beverages
that the state legislatures will wound up cleaning up, so
you can continue to enjoy those, if you drink those,
if you smoke edibles, whatever. You could be jammed up
in this thing because the metabolites or this hang around
much much longer than the effects, the high effects that
you'd have. It's kind of like, you know, doing a
(09:41):
breathalyzer test after you had a few drinks three or
four or five or twenty nine days later. It's not fair,
And I wonder. I can't help but think that this
is like a de facto way to get people to
use less marijuana, because we know the state legislature absolutely
hates anyone who uses marijuana. They fought tooth and nail
against all this thing for whatever reason. Is this a
way to undermine the demand for it?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's a good question. Are telling what they're thinking. But
you know, there's some good language in this, like I said,
eliminating the person day limits for the metabolize, you know,
and if you're sitting at home in the evening watching
Super Troopers and then marijuana, you shouldn't be convicted of
(10:30):
an ov I for driving to work the next day
when the active THHD is gone.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
He is a Jeff Meadows Attorney's a lawyer, scientist, the
metals law firm. Ov I guy, and again it's an
Ohio Senate Bill fifty five pass unanimously, a change ov
I laws. If you got pulled over on a Friday.
Let's say you get pulled over on a Friday night,
take me through that stop. If you had some of
these metabolites in your system. Let's say you're out having
some of those beverages that have THC in them. Maybe
(10:55):
you did that on Friday and it's now Sunday and
you get pulled over before lane violation and the officer
suspects that you have you've been pulled over and you've
been using I don't know, either alcohol or that type
of drug. How do you defend that? What's the process
like from the first out?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well, honestly, Scott, I mean this is the starting point.
If I'm going to go out and have beverages, I
actually uber from home. That way, I'm never tempted to
drive you home. Yeah, and it amazes me. I still
have a job with all the rideshare opportunities. But if
you do, because it is legal to drink and then
get in the cars, why there's parking lot at every bar. Right,
(11:36):
you know, always be polite, respectful, hand your documents to
the officer. Quite frankly, I'm a fan rolling the window
all the way down. This bull craft of cracking your
window and sliding your license out. Everybody knows what that's about.
Your hiding something. Just roll your damn winded down and
give them your documents. Let that car air out a
little bit. When they ask you if you've had anything
(11:58):
to drink or smoke or edibles, I think at that
point you just invoke your constitutional right. The officer, I'd
like to have an attorney if you want to question me.
I really don't want to answer any questions. It is
none of their business where you're coming from and where
you're going to. So when they say so, where are
(12:19):
you coming from? Officer, not answering that question? Where are
you headed? Not answering that question either. If you want
to keep questioning me, I'd like to talk field lawyer.
We can call Medos right now. His numbers three h nine,
jeffs my mood right. When they tell you to get
out of the car, get out. They've got fifty thousand
(12:41):
bolts on their hip to coerce you if you don't.
And then I recommend nobody do feel sobrieties, especially the
eye test when they're moving their finger or pin across
your field of vision. They're looking for a neurological condition
called nice stagnus. Most of the people who administered the
test on a regular basis have more education than these
(13:03):
officers do. They're called brain surgeons, and it's a test
that's administered routinely every day in neurology and ophthalmology offices.
These are people that have significant education and experience. When
you've got an officer doing these tests and you're looking
into the sun, you're looking at rotating lights. They're doing
(13:24):
it on the side of the road with cars going
buy a fifty five or eighty miles an hour. Overwhelmingly,
Now that we have body warn camera, I can zoom
in on my client's face and see that there is
verifiably no nice stagnats, even though the officers believe they
see it. And I don't think they're lying when they
put it in their own Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
(13:46):
it's confirmation by it, right, Yeah, And that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's why you never you know, you have lawyers and
judges and they get pulled. They never take the test.
You just say, listen, I'm not doing anying. I'll talk
to an attorney, can they force you to take a
blood alcohol test, you've got to get a quart order
for that.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Right, Yeah, you got to have a war Yeah. And
you know, like the doormat at my in my house
has come back with a.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Warrant, come back with a warrant. Yeah, that's a bad
and that's that's just one on one kind of stuff there.
But they changed these laws and then you wonder, Okay, well,
is it just gonna make it? Is? Is it? Is
it a de facto way to prevent people from enjoying
what we wanted and that is recreational and in cases
medicinal marijuana and Ohio is Jeff Meadow's attorney with the
Metals law firm. What's that number again?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Five nine, Jeff is myself. Hopefully it's going to be
going up here tonight. Well, I hope not.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's the thing is, it's like, you know, it's a
you represent your clients very very well, you're the best, uh,
but at the same times, like you shouldn't do it,
and you wouldn't have to call Jeff And because it's
a it's a pain in the ass. From what I understand,
I've never done it. I hope never have to call you, Jeff,
I'm trying, in my almost sixty years of life never
to do that. So all the best, buddy, have a
good one. I appreciate the insight. Thank you two. Have
(15:00):
a great weekend, yeap. Stuff you need to know as
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Interesting observation. All of the people that they have had
fired in their administrative stabs, you know, chiefs and fire
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how binge watching start? You gotta binge watch this weekend.
The weather, the way it is, no football, The story
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