Sterling -- 10/31/25

Sterling talks haunted tours in Cincinnati with Patrick Simmons, scary movies with Kevin Carr, Bears vs Bengals with Charlie Goldsmith plus tons of Halloween talk with your calls!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Week of Halloween, last weekend through this week and then
here it is again technically Halloween weekend. Sterling seven hundred
double LW kind enough to give us some time, but
one of those behind the Phantom to the Pig Iron
Pass Cincinnati Ghost Tours. Patrick Simmons, Welcome to seven hundred
double ULW. How haunted is Cincinnati a lot more than

(00:24):
most people think?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I think part of what throws people off about Cincinnati
is when you think of a city like say Savannah,
or a place like Jettysburg, you tend to think of
a lot more hauntings there, but they tend to be
really concentrated. You can be in one spot and throw
a rock and hit like twelve hundred places. Cincinnati is
a bit more spread out than that, but we have
I think, I don't want to necessarily say more, but

(00:46):
at least as many hauntings as a lot of these
sort of more major players in the paranormal game.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's just they tend to be spread out a little more.
Around town. You know you're going to get like Eden.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Park has stories, the Music Hall has stories, and obviously
if you just take those two there are decents enough
distance apart you might not connect them the way you
would in some other cities.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well, and the other thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Talking to Patrick Simmons, by the way, Cincinnati ghost tours
have got the phantoms of the pig Iron past Halloween weekend.
It makes sense that a lot of people may be
lurking out and about trying to see where the haunts are.
There is quite a history. Cincinnati is an old city.
It's gone through a lot of changes. It's a river
city with the you know, the Great Ohio River and
the underground railroads. People trying to get to freedom. You

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think Porkopolis, you think o tr of all of the places,
all of the haunts, Spring Grove Cemetery. I was just
talking to a guy who did the Weird Ohio books,
and we were joking around about the fact that cemeteries
may not be as haunted as people might think. What's
your take on that, because this thought was I guess
the spirits aren't wanting to hang around, But I guess

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kind of makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I think that really is the case. Actually it's and
it's part of it. Might be the cemeteries are sort
of finished there. You know, if you go to a
semis and your lad's arrest, chances are on some level,
things have kind of come to an end ending there,
you know. So I mean in spring Grove, we it
has a few, there's a few hauntings that have been
associated with Spring Grove. But spring Grow is also a

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very large cemetery. It's the seventh biggest cemetery on the
entire planet.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
I mean, it's that huge.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
But if you take a place, you want to compare
Spring Grove to something like Washington Park downtown, Washington Park
has quite a few hauntings associated with it. Well, Washington
Park used to be a cemetery, but it isn't anymore.
And I think you're more likely to experience hauntings in
a place where something like that has happened where the
cemetery was moved and maybe I mean, I.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Know Washington Park was a major one for this.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
They moved a lot of bodies and obviously they missed
a few, and years later they found some.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Because I like how you said that.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
By the way, Patrick Simmons from Cincinnati goes to they
moved some graves and they miss some obviously, so which
it goes back to the like the Poltergeist movie from
the eighties, which if you're of a certain age, it's
still worth the look. Things went terribly wrong when they
put that subdivision on that burial ground that they relocated.
How common and how many cemeteries are there that have

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been moved in and around Cincinnati, I wonder because when
you think of the developments spreading from up and away
from the river on both sides in northern Kentucky as well.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
So I know just in OTR we have moved at
least two cemeteries because Washington Park at a cemetery underneath it,
and Music Hall had a cemetery underneath it, and it's
not the same one, even though it's right across the
street there, it was a whole separate cemetery.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
So we've moved at least two just in downtown Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
And that is even before you take into a towel
the fact that cemeteries move on their own, like over time,
bodies underground will just shift location because of the earth shifting.
And in the city like Cincinnati, where we're built on
so many hills, we have that problem a lot more
than other places. So if you live, say a couple
of blocks away from the cemetery, there's always a small
chance that one day maybe not in your life. Maybe

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whoever's there next somebody's going to be digging in a
yard or something and they're going to find a body
that that it was maybe fifty sixty feet away a.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Few years before.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Wow, that's a disturbing thought.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
You think about the hillside along Columbia Parkway, which is
you know, forever in a day, you know, looking for
mud slidges, reinforcement and more. In the country, and a
lot of rural areas there are just random if you
drive around the tri State, just little teeny cemeteries in
the little birds here and there. How are those comparatively
from your experience when you do these Patrick Simmons and

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these ghost tours. The lingering of ghost is it the spirits?
Is it the you know, something terrible happened at a
person's end that lingers.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
What exactly is that?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
So most of them do seem to be Most hauntings
seem to come from when a person's ending was terrible,
and there's a lot of theories as to why. You know,
some people think it's that that just generates more negative
energy or gives a spirit more reason to want to
hang around. But you do see the opposite occasionally, I
think a very good example of that is the Best House.
Just you know, it's in otr and it's the oldest

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standing building in Cincinnati, the oldest brick building in the
whole state. And several of the best children are told
to haunt that house, but none of them died tragically.
In fact, the ones who haunted didn't even die young.
They just seem to be sort of drawn back to
it almost because of their positive experiences there. So you
do see both directions, but it is far more prominent

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than a haunting comes up in somewhere with something negative habits.
And that's why those little rural cemeteries you see, you
don't hear as many hauntings about.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Them, and the ones you do tend to be a
lot more vague.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
And I think some of those is probably legitimate, and
some of those it's just if you grew up out
somewhere a little more rural, and there was that one
cemetery down the street from you, one or two nights,
walking past that home late at night back to your parents' house,
you're gonna start to get creeped out about it by
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
You know. Cemetery is just for better or for worse,
they're full of dead bodies.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
At night, when the conditions are just right, they always
seem a little at least eerie.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Is there a newer generation of haunts? I don't know
how else to put that. Patrick Simmons, by the way
from Cincinnati ghost tours were sterling on the big one
there this Halloween weekend. It makes sense tying in here
because a lot of us we talk about, you know, OTR,
we talk about the eighteen hundreds, we talk about early
nineteen hundreds, but there's a lot of time in between,
and we've been living and dying a lot here and

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there all this time and continue to be so. I mean,
I just wonder, as you do these tours, do you
find that there are more things popping up that are
more recent or is it all just a long time ago.
We're just much more calm and collected and easy going
now with our dead.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
You know, it's funny you say that. I've had people
ask that on the tour because a lot of people
notice a lot of ghost stories soon to be older.
I think part of that is we had a period
of time and I want to say this is waning
off a little bit. We're starting to see a little
more interested in the paranormal over the past, maybe about
twenty years, but there was a period of time more
interest in it really kind of sell off, and I
think because of that, hauntings that may be newer either

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they weren't seen because the sort of collected energy of
people believing in it is almost needed it for it
to be there. I think that's a theory, or the
other is just that you know, people would see something
paranormal and would just write it off because they didn't
you know, it wasn't as much of a thing that
was believed in at the time.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
But that said, I do see some newer ones.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I know a big one, and oddly it's in Otr,
So it's in an old neighborhood that the Symphony Hotel
in Otr is haunted, and the woman who we believe
haunts it, and who they believe haunts it, only died
there in the nineteen seventies, so comparatively a very recent apparition,
especially because the building it's in is older than just
slightly older than music all itself, so it's eighteen seventies,

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but it wasn't hought until about nineteen seventies, so it
took about one hundred years or it goes to show
up in it, but now there is one.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, that's kind of Patrick Simmons. By the way, Phantom
said the pig Iron passed one of the tours in
and around the tri State Cincinnati Ghost Tours. The website
is us ghost Adventures dot com. Doing these tours, have
you actually instead of just pointing and explaining the history
and having have people You know, everybody's a little amptive

(08:11):
than these. Everybody probably wants to sort of have something happen,
even though they may be not really. I mean, it's
that weird like watching a horror film. Have you had
some type of thing happen while doing tours?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I've had a lot of people who were guests
on the tour say they experienced things, strange feelings, voices
in their ears, especially in and around Washington Park that
seems to be a really hotspot for that kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
And a lot of.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
People who have been on the tour have taken pictures
of Music Hall and seen what appear to be people
standing in the windows. Now it's kind of hard to
work with those because I'm looking at a picture on
someone's cell phone.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
They just took.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
You know, you never know what was there someone in
the window a minute ago, or is it a reflection
off something?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Because there are a lot of life downtown.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Sure, But to me personally, I feel like I'm a
bit of a repellent. I think I said, I want
something to happen too bad, so the ghosts wilt Let
it happen.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
That is the joke.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I saw people and like, nothing ever seems to happen
to me, but it does happen to people.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Around me, which is good for the people around me.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
But I will say, I don't know if it's ghostly,
but it is always worth telling. I was doing a
tour and we just left the Wooden Nickel ante shop
and we were talking about how there's a lot of
stories out there about haunted antiques, and someone got on
the subjects of haunted dolls, you know, famously Annabel. And
in the middle of this crowd of people talking about
haunted dolls, a doll fell off of a balcony of

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a building about three stories up and just landed on
someone in the tour group.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
And there was no one up there to have dropped it.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
If it weren't for the fact that the whole group
was from out of town. I would have thought someone
had planned it as a prank. It was too perfect
and oh they're terrified for the rest of the night.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I still don't really know where the doll came from.
It was just a little, tiny.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Children's toy doll, but it just fell on them in
the midst of them talking about this.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
And to this.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I'll be honest, I still think about it and go,
that could have been paranormal.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
I don't know what that was very at least it
was great.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Yeah, I'd say so.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Patrick Simmons, by the way, Cincinnata Ghost Tours was stirling
on the bnglin. Where is that tiny doll?

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Now?

Speaker 3 (10:08):
You know what? They took it home, which I was
surprised because.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I mean, well, listen, if as from three stories above
and hits me in my head and I survive, I
think I've earned it.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, I guess that.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
I guess.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I mean it was plush.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
It didn't like hurting too bad, but I yeah, I
had a moment of like, I don't know if it's
sell on me during that conversation.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I might have just set it somewhere and gone. Then
somebody else can have it. But no, they thought it
was They thought that was the perfect souvenir.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's pretty wild. Now I'm kind of curious the antique store.
I always you see these creepy toys all that they sell,
all these old pictures that people have with dead you know,
because people used to photograph they're dead and so forth.
Are those type of places do you think, you know,
maybe filled or at least those items in those locations,
maybe a place where stuff would happen, because those places

(10:52):
creep me out.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I think some of them are.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I think some of those old things definitely still have
sort of let's say, remnants of their owners attached to them.
You know, there is some element of a person that
is really a part of something that personal, you know,
being a doll that you had your whole young life,
or you know, especially something like a photograph of a
dead relative, there is something personal attached to that. And

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I do subscribe to the theory that it's those kind
of really personal connections that generate the kind of energy
necessary for something paranormal or seeming the paranormal to happen.
That said, I think a lot of those stories you
have to be careful with because, on one hand, they
do have.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
A lot of things that are likely to be haunted.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
On the other hand, they know that a lot of
their clientele wants set, so they're going to talk up
a lot of things as being haunted more than they
necessarily are, because it's.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
What you have to do.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I see, I don't think I would. I would not
want a either possessed or somehow misused. I'll use I
don't know who wants that on their mantelpiece. I mean,
you want that exercise before it leaves the sh don't you?
Or is it that the conjuring and all these you
know which, by the way, great series of movie isn't
a new one out now? I mean, Patrick Simmons, would

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you want to possessed item? Who the hell are these
people who want to possessed item?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Not me personally, but so I will say there is
a period on the tour where we have a very
long walk between two sacks and to fill the sort
of void on it. One thing I always ask tour
groups is is there was a house and it was
everything you wanted at a house, but it was haunted
and you believe given if you don't normally believe in hauntings,
if you believe this house is haunted, would just still
live in it if it was everything else you wanted.

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And I've noticed there are three types of people. There
is the type of person who says no, absolutely not.
There's the type of person who immediately says yes because
they don't care.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
They just think it we need to live in a
haunted house.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
And the third type of person is the person who says, well,
hang on, how haunted is it?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
And is the price knocks down because of it? Because
if it's I hear children's lapper in the upper rooms,
all live there. But if the walls bleed, that I'm
not going.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
To Well that's where you throw the line as bleeding
the walls.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, there always seems to be the person.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I had a guy who's toward his eightieth birthaid his
immediate question was, do you think I could traine a
ghost to bring me a beer? Because if I could,
then that's the house I want.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
I totally sign up to that. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
He said it so quickly, he clearly thought about it before,
And I thought, yeah, So there's definitely a type of
person who to them, there is an appeal to having
something paranoral or haunted or multiple somethings you know, with
them or in their home. And then there's a type
of person who I think are quite reasonable about this.
They don't want that, and I think that's perfectly fair

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because you.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Got to make your friends as a risk.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, exactly, there's always you know, you're never sure.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
And I've had people on as far to talk about
they have haunted things in their houses and they've had
friends with them who say.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, we don't go to their house. So yeah, I
can get that, you.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Know, another time, what to talk about an experience or
two that I've had this sort of odd that I
would like friendly ghosts. I'd like to you know, the
after they figure stuff out and got beyond trying to
like prop from it, you know, that whole beetlejuice vibe.
If we could get along and coexist and like your
an eighty year old tour guide or tour go where
I should say with the wisdom to say at least

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they could contribute and help me out with a cold
one from time to time is yeah, that's as similarly.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Absolutely, I could see his argument.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
If I could get a ghost that I could be
on that good terms with, then yeah, we could talk absolutely.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I know there's a bunch of stuff I haven't asked,
and hopefully you'll come back, but before we do anything
else that we've missed that you think is relevant talking
about Cincinnati ghost tours, talking about haunts enter around the
tri State or one.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You know, I'd say the two things that I think
are always worth mentioning are one, it's always great to
go on a tour, especially like one like Fantoms of
the Big Iron Past. Is the visits multiple locations. I
know there are a lot of people who prefer to
go to a tour that goes into an individual location
because you can get deeper into it, and I think
those are very cool, but one that takes you to
multiple locations can usually give you a more baseline. You

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learn a little more history of the city in general,
and then you have somewhere you can kind of build
from to go.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know, Oh that place, I'd like to go check
that out more. Oh that place, I.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Can stay there, or it's an open bar, I can
go have a drink there and maybe experience for haunting there,
so you can pick up a little more of that.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
And this is a great time of year to do it.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Because on Halloween, there's whether you think that the sort
of the veil is thinner and more things are happening
around Halloween, the fact is there are more people out
and about and into this kind of thing at Halloween
and just having that energy there. Whether it's from a
ghostly perspective, we're just having fun with it perspective, it's
a lot more fun to be out on a ghost

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store around Halloween.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Well stated, great conversation, Thanks for the insight, and I'd
love to have you back another time and hopefully not
to wait till Halloween next time. He's Patrick Simmons, Cincinnati,
go Thank you man, Thank you. It's us ghost Adventures
dot Com and a fandom to the pig on your
past is going on this weekend, Halloween weekend here, Patrick Simmons,
Thank you man. Take care of yourself, you too, Thank

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you so much more. Sterling coming back seven hundred WLW
Glad you're here. Sean McMahon, mister breman, keeping us in life.
Jack Crumley with News, Kevin Carr, a little bit lighter,
fat guys at the movie Silver Get go on the
sub stack. Got to talk of scary spooky movies. Big
weekend for at the Frankenstein movie.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
It was it Venia Garmo.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
He doing this new Frankenstein movie is supposed to be
like really violent, really good, which I'm kind of looking
forward to.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
We'll see how that goes.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I'm curious here because we were talking obviously about some
spooky Halloween stuff and the ghost tours here in Cincinnati
and the history that sort of goes along with that,
which I think is pretty cool, pretty wild actually. And
I don't know if you've ever had an interaction with
a ghost, an apparition A I mean, I've heard them

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called a lot of things over the years, poulter Geist,
I don't know, Guardian Angel, I mean, I don't know.
There's so many ways to look at it. Obviously, Halloween's
more about the spooky, scary stuff. I will share an
experience and give you a chance to get interactive on
this as well. I'm kind of curious. I had a
situation a buddy of mine this is some years ago,

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moved into an old early nineteen hundred's house and we
were waiting for other people who had been suckered in
to help him move. And I was there first, and
the other people were bringing food and beers, which is
how you get guys to show up to help you
move your stuff, unless you're a woman, and then you
usually just have to say, hey, well help me move,
and then we do, because that's how it works. Or

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we hire people, which is a good way to help
the economy and not hurt your back. But that's not
where we were at this point in time. So the
house is open, we're unloading the truck, we're moving stuff in.
It is a four square house for those who don't know.
So you sort of walk in. There's a front room
and then off to the right, it sort of goes
in a circle around dining room, kitchen, mudroom, stairs to

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go upstairs, and then bedrooms around in a bathroom. At
some point I asked my friend, I said, is there
who else is here? I thought no one else was
here yet, and he goes, what do you mean. I said, well,
I heard someone upstairs. I thought somebody had walked by
me and you just came from outside. Who's here? And

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he goes, nobody. So he was like, well, somebody must
have gotten in the house. So immediately I don't know
if he's thinking vagrant hooligain, I have no clue so
is we go upstairs. We look, there's there's no one upstairs.
There's no one who's gone into the attic space, which
was pretty creepy in its own right. No one in
the basement, no one around. Then a little bit later
we hear some more walking and it seemed, and I

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know this sounds freaky and made up in hokey, it
seemed almost peripherally like there was a shadow or some
person legitimately in the house that walked through the front
room and then up the steps, and you could hear
them go up the steps, at which point I got
a chill and I yelled my buddy Mike and like, Mikey,
who did you feel that? Did you see that there's

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somebody in the house? No, chase it down again? Nothing there?
And then it was unnerving. I'm like, dude, this is
not a good thing. You may need an extorcism. We're
sort of joking around. Buddies show up. Subsequently, they're bringing
the food, the beer, the more stuff, you know, to
the house, and then we were debating on whether or
not even to mention it to them or whatever. He

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never and he lived there like ten years. He had
no other problems there wasn't even really a problem that
day that afternoon. It just was an odd happening. He said,
once or twice he may have heard something, but that
was it. And the people, apparently, I can't remember exactly
how the conversation with he encountered them, the people he
had bought the house from, and they said there had

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been something, but nothing bad.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
And you talk to other people, and I've talked to
a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
They tell me that they, you know, either go'st to
their grandparents' house where they live in the country, somewhere,
you know, north side wherever, around Eden Park, in that
area east Wannut Hills.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
A lot of those old houses.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
The people next to me when I lived there, just
off the park, those people swore up and down that
they had something that was in their attic space and
that they would hear occasionally moving through the house, and
then they'd have a party and invite people over. I'm like,
I don't think I need to hang out in your place.
It just seemed a little creepy and uncomfortable. What have

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seven hundred WLW. It's Halloween, I mean the weekend Halloween,
not like one of the Halloween movies.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
And it is not just this weekend. It seemed like
it was last weekend.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Lots of parties, lots of good times and in a
whole week and the celebration really in the selling of
Halloween tends to start. I don't know when, when the
hell it starts. I think it's after the fourth of July.
How you doing, Sterling seven hundred w WELW. Kevin Carr,
Silver Gecko on the sub stack, How are you? How's everything?
And when did you get your Halloween decorations up at
the House.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
Of car Well, you know my birthday is September eleventh,
so I whenever I recently, I've been inviting my kids over,
you know, because they're adults now, yeah, they're.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Drown I want thanks for the way, by the way,
for making me feel old about that, because I remember
when they weren't. Makes you feel old, Well, yeah, that's true, Dad,
that's true. That's true.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
No.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
I like to have them come over on my birthday,
and you know we have. I get presents and stuff,
but I always want people to that's when I decorate.
So we start. I start celebrating Halloween around Labor Day.
We decorate usually on my birthday because I look at
it like this. You know, if Christmas can get two
months or more, then Halloween can get two months or more.
But here we are Halloween weekend. We got to wrap up. Yeah,

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and kill some turkeys.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
That's right. It's about time. You got to.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
You gotta slaughter the birds after the things get that's perfect.
You do that in time so they can cure for it,
or you hang them up in the cold cell. What
do you do with the carcass of the bird?

Speaker 6 (22:09):
I boil it down and I make soup or like
pot pies.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
Out of it or something.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
That's the way to do it all.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Right now, before we continue on to because I mean
there's scary movies in theaters, they're scary movies streaming, there's
scary movies and TV show marathons everywhere that's been going on.
There's tons of parties, tons of candies and everything else.
But you have done for the longest I can remember,
and longer probably than we've known each other, which has
been a minute, the marathon of the scary films or

(22:38):
horror films. And I know that has evolved over the
years because the boys have gotten older as well.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah, my kids when they were younger, you had it.
You couldn't. You couldn't show them like really hardcore stuff
when they were like ten Arch seven or something like that.
But I mean, I used to go to all night
movie marathons. They'd have them up at the Direxel North
and Columbus UH. And I did that since high school.
And then when I had kids, I said, well, let's

(23:04):
let's kind of cater it to ourselves, and we did
all night movie marathons. We did other UH marathon type things.
And now that my kids have grown and two of
them are adults working on their own, they come back
and and and we have shorter marathons because they have
to go to work in the morning or whatever. But
this year we're doing We're doing a Tom Atkins Marathon. Now,

(23:26):
if you don't know who Tom Atkins is, you've probably
seen him. He is an actor. He's generally known for
stuff he did in the eighties. He did a lot
of John Carpenter stuff.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
He was he was in Halloween three, season of the Witch,
Night of the Creeps. He was in the Fog Maniac Cop.
He was an escape from New York. Yes, and you
know he's he's he still does stuff. Heel like he
did Drive Angry. He was in Drive Angry, you know,
which was about fifteen years ago. Uh, and and My
Bloody Valentine remake. But we're watching several of his movies

(24:00):
because he's such a cheesy actor, because he always plays
usually he's a cop with a trench coat and a mustache.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
Sometimes he doesn't, like in the Fog, he doesn't have
a mustache.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
And creep show he does.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
That's the big dives off the top of you. What
is your fixation with Tom mackins? I mean what I mean,
that's an odd Like everybody loves Chris Walking, everybody imitates
Christopher Walking, but Tom mackins and he did. He always
played the annoyed cop about those meddling kids or something.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
Yeah, he's like and I describe it to people as
like he's like your friend's father who comes home from
work and kicks off his shoes with his black socks
on the autumn and then just drinks beer and watches
sports all night. That's right, that's basically the kind of
character tom Atkins plays.

Speaker 8 (24:43):
And he's it's it's it's it's really fun because like,
like you mentioned Christopher Walking, You're like, there was no
oddness about Christopher Walking, and you know, he wasn't necessarily
like like a face.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Man or anything like that, but he certainly had a
vibe that kind of made him famous.

Speaker 9 (24:59):
What's so fun about what I love about Tom Atkins
is he's not a bad looking guy, but he's not
that good look he's but he always he got this
weird leading man status. And like Halloween three, he plays
a boozing, womanizing chainsmoking doctor who then decides to take

(25:19):
out this this evil Irish maskmaker in uh In, California
from killing everybody in Halloween. So I mean, but on
his way he doesn't even pack a bag, but he
gets a six pack of Miller Light or Miller Beer.
It's not not like he doesn't do He did Miller
genuine draft, you know, the champagne of beer.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
So that's the kind of guy he's And I mean
he and he just kind of played that. But somehow
he was a leading man, which is bonkers in my opinion,
but it's it's a lot of fun because he just
comes in there, you know, just sleezing it up and
and you know, he's the hero.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
He's made the all the like sort of comic con
kind of circuit and everything else too.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Over the years. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Carved out quite an inch of a career. I mean,
I would love a career about half that well done.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Oh yeah, I mean he doesn't have to work ever
again because he just does these conventions. He's like it is,
he's got it. He's like at least late eighty.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I looked it up and and it's correct. He's eighty
nine years old November thirteenth to thirty five. So get him,
enjoy him, soak up his time, because I mean to.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
Turn ninety the next month, like two weeks and.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
I'm not wishing it. I'm leary. I don't even want
to say it. It could be charmatically bad.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Kevin Carr, by the way, Silver Geck go and on
the subject was Sterling on the Big One. But I mean,
we do all have an expiration.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
Well, yeah, we do. But the thing with Tom Atkins,
I've heard, and I don't know if it's true. I've
never met him.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Wells right over that I respect that, go ahead, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
I.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
Think if I recall, he's not even a huge fan
of horror movies, but they played like Jeremy Combs or
Jeffrey Combs who played in Reanimator and stuff like that.
He played in some very violent dark movies. He does
not like horror movies. Who's the guy does the voice
for Chucky Brad Doris. Yeah, he doesn't particularly like horror

(27:08):
movies at all.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
No, another unique character on screen and off. Yeah, he's
not all right, HW, So you're watching the Tom Adkins marathon.
This is like a fun weekend for you, and I
appreciate that and admire that of all the I'm telling Yeah,
that's right, that's what it is. So what I'm curious
about is because we've seen now multiple generations. This is

(27:29):
the thing that's super interesting to me is we've seen
the scary movies and they you know, multiple numbers. Then
they reimagine it. They bring new characters like new generation
really like sort of like the next version of Charmed
or the next version of Hawaii five Oh, or Magnum
p I or whatever. So, I mean there's been quite
a change from like the very beginning of Nosferatu or whatever.

(27:49):
Where did the horror or scary movie genre start?

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Do you think, Well, it started as soon as they
made movies. Really. I mean you can find old stuff
from the George Malaise Day, you know that the Trip
to the Moon type stuff that has what could easily
be described as horror movie elements to it. And you know,
like look even like in the twenties you mentioned nos Faratu,
which what's funny about nos Faratu is it was not authorized,

(28:14):
which is why it's not called Dracula. And they made
the movie without the permission of bron Stoker's estate, and
I mean bron Stoker that was only about a thirty
year old book at that time or less, maybe twenty five,
and they were sooned. They were supposed to destroy the
prints of that. Well thank god they didn't, because Max
Shrek is count Orlock is iconic. But but yeah, I

(28:37):
mean that was infancy of film, quite literally Dracula itself.
They're coming up in six years to the one hundredth
anniversary of Dracula nineteen thirty one. It was a very
early sound movie, which which you can see in the
way they they shoot it, in the way they mix
the mix the sound because it's very minimalist. But you know,
even going farther back, I mean you had plays. You know,

(29:02):
Shakespeare's time had the Witch's scene amblet. So there's been
tales and stories, and as soon as you started committing
those to film, you started getting horror elements. And you know,
then they diversify and you get the genres and sub genres.
You know, the slasher films kind of showed up in

(29:23):
really technically the first slasher film was maybe Peeping Tom
or Psycho, but then it was not until Halloween came
out in nineteen seventy eight that kind of became a phenomenon.
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
The other thing we talked about zombies in the Undead
and the Waking Dead with the multiple universes of that,
whatever you want to call that.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Kevin Carr.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
By the way, Silver Gecko on Substack was sterling a
Halloween weekend upon us here, a big one. But we
talked about that before, and even the zombie thing in
the Undead, which I thought was Night of the Living
Dead and it's beginning. It was like the early thirties, right,
I mean White Zombie, which was the movie with Bela Lagosi.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
Yeah, Legosi played his name. His name is what murdered
was strange in that movie. But but those are different
zombies because that that comes from the Haitian voodoo history
of zombies, where they were basically people that were drugged
and they would think they've died and then they dig
them up and they think that they're the walking dead,

(30:20):
so they believe that they're they're just they're like, they're
just like walking zombies. And they used them in like
as slaves on sugar plantations and that sort of thing.
And that's what White Zombies about.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
Now.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Another great classic zombie movie, what that was is Serpent
in the Rainbow.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Fantastic. Yeah, that creaked me out as a younger man.
That that really bought aside from like the nail or
the spike in the scrotum, which I can say because
it's technically accurate.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Yeah, it's it's it's a medical worm.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
But that that that really bothered me when I saw
that the first time.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
It should but it had its intended purpose. I know,
my sister saw it and she thought it was the
funniest scene in there, and I'm like, you would.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
That's terrible though, that's what it's crazy and people, I
mean that stuff still isn't. I mean, that's because that's
stuff that people in real life sort of navigate that
world in a way, right, I mean maybe not like
bringing back the dead, but well no, but.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
But certainly that drug they they would they used in Haiti,
which is where they found it. I'm sure there's versions
of it elsewhere. But The Serpent of the Rainbows literally
based on a book about a guy who goes to
track that down. And I remember my my aunts years
and years ago, before that even came out, she found
an article and mailed it to me because you know,
I was into all that kind of stuff, and it

(31:38):
was about the guy who the books based on before
Serpent and the Rainbow even came out. And it's basically
it's it's a it's a drug that mimics death. It
lowers all of your your your heartbeat and rhythms and
all that kind of stuff, so that like you know,
just an average doctor with a stethoscope and a and
a mirror for you to breathe on, would would think
you were dead. I mean if he did rain scan,

(32:00):
you see it. But they didn't have that and in
you know, one hundred years ago, you know, so that
is that's a real drug, and they've brought it back
and used it in the pharmaceutical industry for for anesthesia
and that sort of stuff. But yeah, it's a that's
actually based on real stuff as opposed to the flesh

(32:21):
eating zombies, which are it gets technically ghouls if you
really want to the.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Sub genre, yeah, I mean, that's that's the other thing
that's in. You have the creature features, which is like
what like the vampire, which are the Mummy or what
I mean, there's so much of those we talked about
the undead. Here here's the other thing and we're short
on time. Kenn Carr, by the way, Silver Gecko and subspect,
I'm loving this Halloween talking movies and area. But even
the other sub genre and you can go anywhere you
want with this. But I mean like the Dead Don't

(32:47):
Die or you know, zombie Land or yeah, zomb come zie.
You already have a term for its army of darkness,
I mean, and there are a bunch of them that
go with it. There is a dark humor with it too.
Is that people coping with it or just pure comedy?

Speaker 6 (33:03):
Well, I think I think it's sort of like how
people react to something scary and how people react to
something funny. It's a lot closer than people think. I mean,
there's a hysteria, there's a height and awareness and you know,
it's that catching of your breath and there's there's a
certain fun to being scared. Now, nobody wants to be
dangled off a building or anything, but that's why we

(33:25):
ride roller coasters.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
It's true, close to the edge, right, controlled nightmare chaos.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
It makes you.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
Feel something, you know, that sort of thing. But it's
but that's why they come close together, and that's why
you can do these comedy elements. Or it's horrifying and terrifying,
but kind of just heighten it up so much it
almost becomes hysterical. I'll tell you. It's talking about stuff
that's available now. I think it was last weekend HBO
Max just got Weapons, the movie Weapons Okay, which which

(33:55):
came out I think in August, and it was a
huge hit, a massive hit. It's directed by Zach Creger,
who started off in comedy as the Whitest Kids.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
You know.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
Yes, he did Barbarian a couple of years ago. And
this is a great horror movie. I mean, it is chilling,
and it's weird, it's different, but by the time you
get to the end, it is so bizarre and crazy
it becomes funny. And when you look at like somebody
like Zach Kraiger or Jordan Peel, these guys have their

(34:26):
history in comedy, but they're kind of seeing their biggest
success in horror movies, which, like I said, they're kindred
spirits in terms of the genre.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, I mean, it's a very fine line unless you're
actually being consumed by the undebat anything. No, no, no,
I mean this is the stuff nightmares are made up. Seriously,
And I found a new candy bar by the way,
that's an old one. Let me just leave you with
this and then anything else you got going on. I
digging through the bag because I buy the candy. We

(34:57):
know this that I like because if the kids don't
show up at least, it's not good for me eating it,
but it's good for me not having bags of crap
that expire.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
He heath Bar. I don't know that I ever had
a heath Bar.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
What's what's expired candy? I've never experienced that in my life.
I usually finished.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
You don't know what that is exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
That's what I'm by point exactly even bag candy, I guess,
And that's probably the truth of the matter. Am I
the only one who hasn't had a heath Bar?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I didn't even know they still existed, but they were
in the multi variety bags that I bought, and I
grabbed a handful. And that's what was in the car
driving with my coffee, which is chocolate covered. I don't
know if it's caramel or what exactly it is in
a crispy crunch. I love the heath Bar.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
Yeah, well, heath Bar is basically toffee in the Score bar.
I don't even know if they make score anymore, but yeah,
chocolate covered coffee like that or it's crispy though, Yeah,
that's that's but I've seen I've seen heath Bar and
in ice cream. It's really good. Like there are places
that I have actually heath Bar crunched up in Iceman
gets like a blizzard or something like that.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
I'm ready now.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
I love the kind of old time candy. I love
neck A wafers. I'll eat Circus peanuts. I mean, I'm
not WEIRDO.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
You like the candy corn, don't you.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
I love candy corn. I mean you really, it's it's
there is no candy corn left anywhere in the house,
and we got a lot. So yeah, you know, I'll
eat the regular stuff too, But I love that the
old fashioned, old timey candy, Smarties and Mary Jane's and
and uh like like like a Charleston shoe.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
We're going down to the deep bend of the pool. Yes,
these are all the old classic candies. As kids coming up,
you're like, I don't want that. I don't want this,
like the Smarties or whatever else. It sort of goes
with it as long as they're not giving you. Oh
I like those, yeah, the popcorn ball or you know,
occasionally I just remember and we've talked about this before
at a neighbor who was a dentist, and it was
he gave away like baby teeny toothbrushes, but as a kid,

(36:48):
nobody cares about doing.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
I hated that guy.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
If you want your house egg, you can give out.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Toothbrushes, correct anything else before we let you go. Because
we've gone way along. I'm so sorry, but I appreciate
you being free on time.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
No, that's okay. The only thing that I will say
this because I know we've talked about turk or treat
in my house. I live in the crazy neighborhood with
all the tricky treaders we gave out. I think it
was a thousand pieces of nine thousand pieces of candy
last night.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Oh my gosh, I'm gonna take a mortgage out.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, the chocolate this year, if thank god, you weren't
giving away free coffee for the kids to be terrible.
He's Kevin Carr, silver Gapto on substack.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Thank you man. Have a happy Halloween weekend. It will
be back.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
It's more sterling seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Don't be scared to rush. They'll be touring soon.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Mister McMahon very excited, gonna take a road trip to Chicago.
I think he may have like coughed up the I
mean like an enormous sum of money, like really, like
at least a college textbook.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
One.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I coughed up a paycheck a paycheck. Yeah, that's crazy.
But I've had the joy of seeing Russia a couple
of times in the first time touring, and it's been
like a decade, which is just disturbing. I got a
great new drummer a part of the project, and they'll
be on the road, so hopefully we'll get him closer
to home. Maybe a road trip won't be necessary. A

(38:12):
couple of minutes away from ten o'clock report. Jack Crumley
will have news on that at Stirling Radio. On X
or Twitter, call it whatever you want. It's been X
for a long enough time I probably could stop saying Twitter,
but people still tell me they're getting me on Twitter,
so whatever it is. There's a couple of pictures there
I came across that seemed appropriate for Halloween that you

(38:33):
can check out, one of which is I was rolling
by I stopped sort of out in the sticks a
bit on the side of the road. There were a
bunch of buzzards and occasionally you see him flying around
where we are along Montgomery Road, and they'll be up
outside our windows and so forth. McMahon, Mister McMahon, I
don't mean any disrespect. He was telling me how like

(38:54):
he had seen something like that and taking pictures and
thought he was very concerned about the circumstance.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Same thing with me. When I've been on the air.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
We were in the other place, on the other side
of the building, had a situation where you'd look outside
the windows of the studio and then all of a
sudden there are all these buzzards around. Hard not to
think perhaps you were like the carnage that they were
looking to eat the scraps of. So I'm like, man,
I better get it together. I got to give good show,
and we will.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Coming up.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
We'll talk to Charlie a Goldsmith Charlie's Chalkboard about Bengals
and the Bears. They're playing a pay course Sunday, and
we'll talk about Flacco the shoulder and the transition with him,
and well what happens if he can't go, and how
they look at QB two and maybe QB three for
that matter as well, and a lot of other ground
to cover, including some issues of other places around the

(39:42):
world and different traditions for Halloween, like maybe say Day
of the Dead in Mexico or Hide the Knives in Germany,
which is a pretty disturbing scenario, or the way they
do it in Bolivia or Peru or Japan. Yeah, I
got all that and more coming up here. Home of
the Bearcats in action tomorrow night Primetime Big twelve Max

(40:04):
matchup taking on those utes a Utah and back in
the afternoon Stirling with Donna d and of course Bengals
Sunday right here where the Hoode play. Home of the
best Bengals coverage. News Radio seven hundred w WELW Cincinnati News,
tracture of things.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Perfect weather for it. World Series.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
By the way, if you're keeping track, Game six underway,
Blue Jays leading the series three games to two, Dodgers
in front and the top of the seventh three to one,
so they're not looking to keep this thing extended.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Get a shot at it.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
We'll see how it goes, should go seven. It's game
six now, Swain, it is all right. Let's see how
about this Halloween stuff, because we were talking about Halloween
and I think this makes great sense.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I'll go through some different types of I guess rituals
or ways that other parts of the world celebrate or
go through some Halloween spooky stuff. Talked to Kevin Carr
talking about the different movies and all the stuff that
sort of goes with that, which was kind of cool.
And then also, of course candy stuff, which is great
and Dennis loved this season. It wasn't oh, yeah, there

(41:13):
we go, let's make secial comments step in mawhouse anytime
you can do that on the bit what do I
feel good about it? So you know, Dennis love it
because people have fillings that are pulled out, a lot
of chocolates, a lot of gummy candy.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
By the way, keep an eye out.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
You got to check the kids bags or the containers
that I would use like a pillowcase when I was
a tiny sterling, and then you had to avoid the
older kids who would go around and snatch bags after
you did the hard work of going door to door begging,
speaking of which it's an amazing thing in the midst
of it, and I don't want to change the vibe fully,
but you know, you're talking about hungry people and begging

(41:51):
and for candy. But if somebody knocked on your door
for food. What the hell would you do? Here's some food,
Have some candy. If your blood sugar is low, have
some sweet stuff. Sorry, you can't get any food tough times.
Tomorrow we'll see if we can't get free store food
bank Boss on to talk a little bit about that,
Kurt Riber. We're work out scheduling for him to see

(42:12):
when we're on in the meantime. Five point three seven
four nine seven eight hundred, the Big One, your chance
to get interactive. I'm curious as we open up these phones.
The favorite candy, least favorite candy I remember going through.
Kevin mentioned a few of these in our conversation, like
the Mary James, the cow tails, all that, the Jolly Ranswers.
I'm a fan, but I always want to gnaw on

(42:34):
those and chill them, and that'll yank of filling out
or break a tooth. And nobody needs that except Dennis
trying to get themselves a summer house excuse to play
some talking heads too. Gotta like that, Yeah, Psycho Killer,
A lot of the good spooky movie stuff. I wondering
about that. Your spooky is just sort of like a
Halloween spooky movie scenario. I mean, beatle Juice is fun

(42:57):
that certainly categorically fits in Hollow.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
It goes along with that.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
But I like the fun stuff, all the undead shows,
all the undead movies, even I Zombie. Somebody messaged me
earlier at Sterling Radio they were saying, that's fun and
kind of spooky. Since we were talking about undead in
comedy and that was a series that ran. I'm not
sure if it if it's strange, I think it was
on like the CW or something could have been on

(43:22):
Fox that was on for a few years and it's
still out there. People are enjoying that as well as
something to sort of go along with that. In Ireland,
the Samheim traditions I hope I'm saying that right, the
oldest Halloween traditions around. I mean that's where Halloween pretty
much originated with the Celtics Festival of Samheim. And they

(43:44):
say it marks the end of the harvest season, which
makes sense, the start of winter, which nobody likes. Well,
I don't know, maybe you're a fan of the winner.
I'm not a fan of that. And then they say
the veil between the living and the dead the thinnest
where we can maybe reach out and have communicate with
relatives and friends or maybe roaming spirits that are out there,
and the Celts would light bonfires and where outfits that

(44:07):
were disguising themselves and carved turnips because who doesn't love
some turnips, which, by the way, it didn't start with pumpkins.
It started with a turnip, which seems to me it'd
be a lot harder to carve a turnip than it
would be to carve a pumpkin.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
But I like both.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I can eat both, not necessarily a turnip pie, but
a whole thing altogether. There and they still celebrate obviously
Halloween and Ireland costume parties on it. Houses, fire, they
do fireworks. We'd like to blow stuff up. Fireworks would
be good to go along with that. Here all Saints
Day and All Souls Day. It is the sort of

(44:44):
a scary, spooky season, if you will, in Peru, with
a bunch of traditions that fall along religious lines. That's
the first day of November, so that'll be tomorrow All
Souls Day, November all nice.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Yeah, yeah, I got a ticket.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Families go to cemeteries in Perua honoring the loved ones, relatives, friends.
They bring food and drink and good music. They clean
up and decorate the graves, show them some love, respect,
clean them up. Some people actually stay overnight in the
cemeteries to keep their loved ones company. I don't see
a lot of people doing that here in the States.

(45:28):
I had a friend and she'd like to go sometimes
grab lunch, you know, Spring Grove. I was at Woodlawn,
I think up in Dayton. We did it there too,
and would tour around and she loved to take pictures
like an old cemeteries and stuff, which kind of was
kind of a little on the creepy side to me.
But she got into a big time and a lot
of people do, but she never wanted to to sort

(45:49):
of stay over. I don't know if they'd allow that.
Maybe a private cemetery, which when I lived in Preble County,
there are a lot of places in the country, in
the boondocks, in the sticks, call it what you want,
that actually have little teeny baby cemeteries here or there,
little Quaker cemeteries, little community cemeteries, and if you walk

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through there's maybe maybe not tonight, but when you do
and you take a look around, you'll often see when
like different sicknesses would blow through a region because you'll
see like mass graves, I mean mass numbers of graves.
I don't mean like a mass grave flow with mass bodies.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
I haven't done any like excavation in that situation or exhumation.
But what you would see is that you know, oh,
the flu was really bad this year, or you know
there was other types of sickness that may have come through,
because you'll see like huge populations in these cemeteries in
a certain window of time over one winter or another
it was a harsh winter and people froze or starved

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or something along those lines as well, which can be
kind of tough. You know, that's not one of those
things we think of here in relation to that. In general,
in Germany hide the knives and this is really apparently
in the last couple of decades started to pick up again.
That's a November first kind of thing with All Saints
Day and one of the most unusual or strange things

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in hiding the knives in the house.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
People in Germany.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Germans tend to believe that aler Heigen are all Saint's Day,
the spirits of the dead return, leaving knives out for them.
Could accidentally hurt them in some fashion. I guess they
can't hide from sharp objects in drawers or something.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
So to avoid any mishaps, any accidents, any catastrophe with
the I guess the spirit world, they take all the
sharp objects and they hide them away someplace safe for
the benefit apparently of the undead more than the living.
And they say it's also a practical way to keep
your ancestors and yourself safe from any mishaps of the

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super natural five point three seven four eight hundred The
Big One. Curious about unusual or strange activities that you
may have encountered in your travels or in general. A
lot of costume parties. Maybe this weekend, I would imagine
all the trick or treating is done. Are you checking
the kid's bags for you know, safe food products. When

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I was a kid coming up in the eighties, early
eighties and late seventies, I can remember my mom and
I think a lot of it was just to steal
the good candy, though she denies it. She was like,
you have to watch the news. They were talking about
people and they would have, you know, razor blades that
it would be at a like an apple or they'd

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hide them in other food products, and she would like
and no kid really wanted to get apples or pears.
You'd see people occasionally, maybe they ran out of candy.
You'd always see that one person. My neighbor across the street,
my buddy Mike earlier today, he's telling me because he's
got these one mechanical like skeleton and then another one
lounging on a chair on the front porch, was I

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don't know if I want to deal with the kids.
I got the game on. I'm like, okay, what are
you gonna do? He goes, I'm just going to put
a big bowl out, I said. The first group of
kids will see the big bowl filled with candy, and
that will be the end of your big bowl of candy.
He goes, you think, so, I go, yeah, probably, And
that's how it would happen. You'd always show up and
there'd be an empty bowl because you knew that other
kids had gotten there beforehand, or maybe they were polite

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and just did one thing at a time.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
What have you dealt with?

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Have you gone through and gotten good candy and staying
topical and timely with the news. I'm curious if anybody
came across because the big fear was just some of
the people out there that somehow legal hemp packaged looking
like candy would end up in kids beggars or trick

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or treating bags.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
I hope to God that's not the case.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Some parents might be happy if they came across it
for themselves, but you certainly don't want kids ingesting it,
so you might want to keep an eye out and
look for that as well. Five point three for ninety
seven thousand, eight hundred The Big One. Tell me about
your Halloween, uh and the candy and all the stuff
that goes with it. We get the cleaves Chuck first
room for you as well as e J all before

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the break, and we'll talk to Charlie Goldsmith from Charlie's
Chalkboard about Bengals Bears coming up as well. Chuck, appreciate
your holding her with Sterling on the Big One.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Happy Halloween, Happy Halloween. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (50:23):
What do you have?

Speaker 7 (50:25):
I went to I went to a Halloween party one night.
I seen a sexy nurse costume.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
I'm a fan.

Speaker 7 (50:31):
I gave her a bag. I gave her a bag
for Hershey kisses and a bit of honey.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Hey, that seems to be about the right way. Yes,
that's the right way to Did she smatch you?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
That's the best, and that wasn't necessarily probably all bad either,
I'm guessing now, did you know the nurse?

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Or wasn't a new friend?

Speaker 7 (50:48):
No, it was it was somebody at a party.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yeah, just just just somebody else at the party. I
got you. Do you do any trick or treating?

Speaker 7 (50:55):
I mean, who doesn't like hershey kisses and bit of honey?

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Everybody does? Everybody does. I would imagine that's for sure, Chuck.
I appreciate the call. Man, you got any other Halloween stories?

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Or is that it?

Speaker 7 (51:08):
I'm good man?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
All right, Well I am too. I appreciate the call,
and thank you for listening. I always like to ask,
I'm told occasionally I get a premature click finger on
hanging up on people. I don't mean to do it,
it's just a it's just one of those things.

Speaker 10 (51:20):
EJ.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
What's going on. How's your Halloween?

Speaker 8 (51:23):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Pretty good?

Speaker 10 (51:24):
I'm going to hand out candy tomorrow night. Well I
got a weird story. Yeah you're from Purple County.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
I've spent a few years there.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah, yeah, Well I got a weird one.

Speaker 10 (51:35):
We lived at the house on Wolf Road in West
Delic's and uh, once in a while I would hear
like a ball in the attic, kind of like bouncing. Oh,
and uh, you know, yeah, years later or not years later. Uh,
people live next door, friends of mine. We'd said, you know,
in our front porch, drink of beer whatever, and he

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claimed it is there. His wife claimed to hit him
in the hit her in the back of the head
with a ball.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Oo.

Speaker 10 (52:06):
Yeah, And then a s story long. One night, I
was worsing clothes.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
We had a dog.

Speaker 10 (52:14):
My girlfriend bought a ball and it was in the
house somewhere, and I was walking around and there was
a ball there and the opening where there was nobody
in the house. But anyway, that's that's kind of a
weird story.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
That's all right.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
So you had somebody with an encounter. Have you had
any other encounters with something strange like that? It was
It's one of those things. He's a kid growing up,
you'd hear stuff in the basement or whatever, and parents
or grandparents would tell you like crazy stories, and I
could I always wonder were they just messing with us
or were there really experiences that they had that they
were sharing.

Speaker 10 (52:45):
No, there was nobody there, and that was fucks creepy.
The guy that lit next door told me the story
of him his wife or girlfriend whatever hitting him in.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
The back of the head with a ball right right,
And I didn't.

Speaker 10 (53:01):
I didn't. I didn't like put two or two together,
is what I want to say.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
I understand it, but I go to bed.

Speaker 10 (53:06):
We lived right next door, and I go to bed
every night. I'd hear like a bouncing in the attic.
I even got a ladder up there one night and
looked around with a flashlight. There's nothing up here?

Speaker 7 (53:16):
What a bird? A posa?

Speaker 6 (53:17):
Okay, what's going on here?

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Huh?

Speaker 10 (53:20):
And then and I kept hearing. I mean, i'd say,
for like, I don't know. It wasn't a off for
like a month or a week or whatever.

Speaker 7 (53:26):
And we did have a doll.

Speaker 10 (53:28):
Me and my girlfriend had a dog, and then she
bought it this little blue ball. Nobody was there that night.
It's like midnight. I'm working my clothes and I come
walking from the working machine through like an opening in
the door. I mean, you know where you're catching in
your living area.

Speaker 11 (53:47):
And nobody was there.

Speaker 10 (53:49):
Doors or lock dogs outside changed up.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
She wasn't there.

Speaker 10 (53:52):
And I come walking through one night to get my
clothes after taking a shower, and this blue ball is
laying right there. There was nothing in there to move it,
no no wind.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Well, something wanted to play, Something wanted to play with you.
Jas See that's unerving. I mean, just thinking about that,
it just reminds me of my buddy's house, like I
mentioned earlier, when he was moving in, and he never
had a problem after he moved in. I guess it
was just checking out the spirit, like who was coming
in next, and maybe you just had a spirit that
wanted to play a j I appreciate the call. Quick break,
we'll come back, We'll talk who day Bengals Bears and

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hopefully not a scary Sunday here on the home of
the best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Aallcord like some stats.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Seven hundred WLW was Stirling, Bengals hosting the Bears Sunday. Flacco,
let's start there, how is mister Flacco and the shoulder
which would have kept a normal man down? But reading
you today which by a great piece on background Joe
Flacco by the way, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (54:47):
Flacco seemed like his Thursday practice went well, didn't throw
on Friday in practice, there's a way to give it
some extra rests, but feels pretty.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Solid about where he's at in terms.

Speaker 11 (54:59):
Of being able to give it a go on Sunday.
But then there's always the question of, you know, how
does he wake up, how does he respond to the
first hit? How does he respond when you're on throw fifteen,
twenty twenty five. That creates a lot of uncertainty and
it's an ultimate wolf See situation in terms of how
Flacco looks and what he's able to do.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Talking to Charlie Goldsmith Charlie's chalkboard on sub stack with
Sterling on the Big one Bears Bengals Sunday. You know,
this is a tricky thing. We've seen what Flacco can do,
you know, for driving down seventy one in a handful
of days. You know, if he first half decent second half,
he gets a second win. You know, now the injury
Jake Browning through all of this was the guy who

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didn't get it done when he got a shot after
Burrow's toe and he's still in there as the number
two in this situation.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
How is his mindset?

Speaker 1 (55:49):
What have you encountered and talked to him about this
because I mean, he's certainly focused on doing the work,
but that's a tough spot to be and prepared now
with a chance to get in there if Joe's shoulders bad.

Speaker 11 (55:59):
I think it's been good for him to get a
chance to reset. He kind of needed that and he's
done everything right. He's helped flacle A out behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
But ultimately, you know, you never really know until you're
right back in it.

Speaker 11 (56:10):
Until you're right back in that fire, it's hard to
kind of get that confidence back just on scout team reps.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
So you know he's on the team for a reason.

Speaker 11 (56:19):
I really believe that the Bengals like what he's about
now he's approached it, but it would be another Wolsey
situation in terms of what you would expect from Brown
and considering how it looked the first time.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Does that mean that they've tuned up Sean Clifford? Is
he still the number three in this situation?

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Clifford will be the number three.

Speaker 11 (56:36):
They signed him to the roster on on Fridays, you'll
technically be inact but he'll be available the emergency third
quarterback due to the.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
They have in the league.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
You're doing all right?

Speaker 5 (56:50):
Sound man?

Speaker 1 (56:51):
You sounds like you got a little bit of the
creeping crud, which is not good, but a Halloween weekend worth.
I hope you're doing all right. It is this team,
we've seen some growth every year. That's the case through
a season where you see guys get danged up, next
guy up steps in hopefully gets it done with, you know,
adjustments to teams you're playing as well as you know,

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just growth as a group, whether it's the offensive line,
the defensive line in the situation, we've seen them give
the Flacco more time and work around his skill set.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
What are they?

Speaker 1 (57:22):
How are they growing in your eyes as you see
this and as you talk to them moving ahead with
the Bear Sunday.

Speaker 11 (57:28):
Well, defensively, they've gotten younger, you know, especially with bart
Carter and there at linebacker, with from our Stewart getting
more playing time, and you see, like you know, they
keep calling them technical mistakes, you know, a mistackle here,
an assignment there. Ideally those guys keep developing and and
learn from new situations and new types of experiences. But

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that's just the type of process that has to happen
for a defense that's so young.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
As we look at this right now, are you surprised
in the AFC North with what this Bengals team has
already endured and still where they are in the scheme
of things that they're really not in the worst case
scenario circumstance, although we got questions of quarterback and all
the usual stuff.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
I mean, their competitive somehow.

Speaker 11 (58:16):
I think the big surprise is how bad the Ravens
were kind of up into the last two weeks as
they've wiggled their way back into this race. But the
Steelers have been about what I expected. The Browns have
been about what I expected. It's just the Ravens had
this collapse on defense and then the quarterback got hurt,
and whether or not they can kind of rebound.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Now was one of the biggest stories in the league.

Speaker 11 (58:37):
But you know that we're talking about that with the Ravens,
a team that's tied in the record, you know, standings
with the Bengals.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
So that's the sign of the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Truly haven't a shot now.

Speaker 11 (58:46):
They have a lot they need to justify and get
better and right the Ravens just got healthier and that
was a path for them to get back in the race.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
The Bengals have some harder questions to answer.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
It's a three and five Bengals team, it's a four
and three Bears team. How good is this Bears team?
Because I mean, you know, they're in a different world
in the NFC and what they have to navigate doing
what they do there in.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
The middle of the pack. Definitely talent. They've invested a
lot in the front.

Speaker 11 (59:15):
They have good experience, it's safety, some very talented corners, but.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
They've been injury riddled there. And then a lot of talent.

Speaker 11 (59:23):
They've invested in a receiver as well as one of
the most talented quarterbacks in the league. And Caleb Williams, he.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Just hasn't put it together.

Speaker 11 (59:30):
So it's a team that's a bit of a mystery
box that you know, one day can be one thing
and another.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Day to another.

Speaker 11 (59:35):
And which Bears team shows up is going to be
a big part of the storyline of what happens on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Charlie's chalkboard, you can find a sub stack with Sterling
on the big one. Now, Charlie, this a Bears team
running back situation. They look like they're a little thin there.
This defense coming up. How bad does that running game
being thin there for the Bears stress them out with
the throwing game. Facing a Bengals defense, as they already think, they'll.

Speaker 11 (01:00:02):
Probably stick to their plan. You know, every team has injuries.
Every team also schemes specific things up to counteract and
go up against strengths and weaknesses of who their opponent's
going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
So even though the Bears running backs hurt.

Speaker 11 (01:00:15):
Honestly, I think they'll just kind of try to stick
to what they do and kind of challenge a Bengals
defense that hasn't done a ton.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
On the other side, Bengals, we've seen the running game
step up last couple of weeks Chase Brown and company.
We've seen with Flacco also finding that in between passing game,
which opens up the long game with those long bombs
and so forth. The offense developing in that mode. I mean,
they are still bewilderingly strong weaponry wise. On the offensive

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side of the football. It's got to be an enormous
challenge for any defense, whether they come into pay Corps.
This Bengals team hits the road.

Speaker 7 (01:00:51):
We've seen that.

Speaker 11 (01:00:51):
We've even seen this offensive line really start to stabilize
and play well at a lot of spots and in
a lot of moments over the last couple of weeks
in the run game has taking a big weight off
everybody's shoulders. And then the run games complemented the past game,
and the pass game has set up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Other opportunities to run the ball. So it's all said
together really well. The offense has been.

Speaker 11 (01:01:11):
Playing great ever since the second half in Green Bay
in Flacco's first game, and that's something the Bengals are
genuinely optimistic about.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
This is a good spot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
If Flacco can get through this without making that shoulder worse,
this team can maybe handle the Bears. Then they got
a bye week to help him get healthy before they
start getting back at it. In the midst of that
thought process or anything else, what have I not asked, Charlie.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
That's about it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:01:36):
It's just another big game for a Bengals team that's
been alive in the Ante North because of some of
the situations around them. But at some point you just
got to win.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
There you go, good reading, It shows up in your
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He's all over Charlie Goldsmith Charlie's chalkboard on the sub stack.
It's Sterling coming back talking well more Halloween and stuff.
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words of wisdom before his passion because he knew he'd
been sick for some time. By the way, he said,
enjoy every sandwich, which I tried to startling.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Halloween night, were wolves and vampires, lots of different sort
of spooky Halloween songs, all kinds of different ones, fun ones,
scary ones. I remember I got a I think it
was from a bowl like a cereal box. At one
point there was a floppy, flexible like sheet of vinyl

(01:02:44):
that I was able to put on my play store
or playschool record player.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
That was the Monster Mash.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
And then a few years later I was old enough
and I remember riding my bike down this is in
Dayton was a second time around at the time record
store and I got like some of my first records
from there, and also Peaches at the time it was
a kiss a live record, uh. And then also I
think uh it was a Chik's lafreaka I think if

(01:03:11):
I'm not mistaken too so, even early on, a very
diverse and bipolar sort of a set of favorites in
good music five point three, seven hundred, the Big One.
I'm kind of curious. How's your Halloween going? Have you
had an interaction with an entity? A spirit, a haunted house,
haunted ghost, haunted car. I've had a few cars, especially

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as a kid, that seemed like they were haunted or
at least sick and broken a lot of the time.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I'm also at Sterling Radio one X or what used
to be called Twitter as well. Give you a chance
to get an interactive too. Let me just mention this real.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Quick, because this is this is wild.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
There is a major so called they call him a
popular candy distributor. So there's a company that distributes lots
and lots of candy all over the place. Just file
for bankruptcy. Ironically, just here a Halloween week, which is
pretty wild in a candy warehouse is what it's called.
My mother even texted him, you goes, so maybe you

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can get a good deal. I guess she's looking for
a clearance or knocked down candy prices. Depending on what goes.
I would think you'd wait till after Halloween, but you know,
you gotta do what you gotta do. I guess when
it comes to getting your business right. They've been around
for twenty seven twenty eight years, which is pretty big.
They sell bulk candies, but apparently having a hard time
selling enough of them. I don't know if people are

(01:04:31):
taking better care of their teeth or just many options.
It used to be the corner store. And then when
I remember going to a Kroger at one point when
I was a kid, and they had the bulk candies
so you could do it by weight. And then when
I worked in the grocery store for a while at
Grocery Bar, and you'd see people come in not even
Halloween time, and you'd see people grays in the bulk
food candy section. They just grab handfuls of candy. I'm

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like fifteen, sixteen years old working and I remember the
assistant manager goes sterling, you should talk to them about
I'm going to interfere with somebody who's boosting candy out
of the bulk food section and what get beat down
by a can of salmon or something. I don't think
so let's think get Jeffrey here first, and Joe and
room for you on a Halloween Sterling, Jeffrey, you're on
the big one seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
What's going on, hey, Starling?

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
How you doing? My man?

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
I'm all right, appreciate you being here. What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
So it's kind of it's kind of crazy. So my
wife was saying, hey, you got you gotta get on
you gotta get on here because he's talking about ghost
stories and we live in wonderful glend, Ohio. Yeah, and
kind of it seems like sometimes the capital right, But
so I kind of wanted to start with this story
a long time ago when we first moved and we've
been here for almost golly eight thirty years and I

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and I called in. It was probably a year and
we lived here and billbo Shar's late at night. We
used to tracing my wife and I we used to
just kind of be working in the house.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
Sure, he used to do Saturday nights. I used to
love billbo Shar.

Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
Yes.

Speaker 12 (01:05:54):
Oh, And so it was this night that we were
we were having some things happened happening in our home
and things that we couldn't explain, things like we you know,
we have you know, we always kind of kept to
the history of the home with old patrolas and things
like that, and you know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
Things like that, with little things bumps in the night.
We would hear, uh, we sometimes hear music playing. Would
be like, I can't understand where it's coming from.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
I said, I gotta call him.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
I'm gonna it's it's late. I'm gonna call Bill. I'm
gonna like, hey, get you know, and tell them some
of the stories. He said, Jeff, here's what you need
to do. You need to get just an old camera
and just you know, start putting on a slow shutter
and start taking pictures and then you know, call you
got to call it back. Let me do if you
if you see orbs in these pictures, and sure enough

(01:06:42):
we get and developed. You know, this is you know,
weeks later, and you can literally see these orbs kind
of just we have like a half sparrow sty staircase
that goes up to this front room, and sure enough
you could see like these orbs, like there was like
three orbers.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
You could just very you could just.

Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
Almost play the day and you can see him just
kind of hovering over the top part of the staircase,
almost like something was looking down, so kind of fast
forwarding as we moved as we you know, living here.
And don't get me wrong, you know, I'm working at
the village tavern, coming home late at night, bumping the grinding,
working there, coming home and hearing and seeing things at

(01:07:19):
three o'clock in the morning. As they say that's when
things happen. I've seen a lot. I've actually seen a
lot to a point where you know, I've had, you know,
previous owners call me and and things that they would
give us from previous owners, things like I just all
throw this one quick one out there before I kind

(01:07:40):
of before, but it's just the previous people that lived here.
The woman was an artist and she had done a
bust up her uncle who was the original owner. And
this guy calls me out to nobody, says, hey, I
got some art, you know, some factored things from the
house back in the day.

Speaker 10 (01:07:57):
And it was kind of weird as I got some
of this stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
And I had done a bust of myself for my
mom that when she had passed, I put it on
my shelf and it was crazy. And this is kind
of when all this really kind of started came to
a head to where I would come home and my
bus because we put we put this other bus of
this the original owner kind of like next to a
shelf down. I come home every dayn my trace, What

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is going on? She'd be like nothing. What I said,
my head is turned sideways.

Speaker 10 (01:08:28):
I'm like, I was like what.

Speaker 5 (01:08:32):
And I was like, okay, next day, same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
What what what were you looking the bust? What what
is it looking at when it's turned sideways?

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
It's just turned sideways. So like I you know, you
have it on a bookshelf and it would be in
our living room and you know, as I'm watching television,
i would go in to watch televison, I'm thinking, why
is my bus kind of turned sideways?

Speaker 6 (01:08:54):
This is just really odd?

Speaker 5 (01:08:56):
And the other bus was down on the bottom shelf
and it was it was fine. It never no, it
was none. But I mean for all that, for this,
every time I come home, I go sit down, like
it's jarred again.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Have you heard it move or just seen it after
it's moved, Just.

Speaker 5 (01:09:14):
Just after it's moved, right, like thinking that somebody's coming
and click, you know, I'm thinking, yes, somebody's cleaning. He's like, no, no,
sure enough. I'm like, I've had enough. So you know,
historically wise, we we had a little place we call
the train room. I'm like, your head's going in the
training room. Man, I'm like, so I moved it. You know,

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we put in the train room, and it never happened again,
never happened again.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
How about that? Well maybe it was wasn't it was
wanting to go to the train room.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
I think it was. I think it had had enough
of me and I had enough of it, and so
I I I moved them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
I moved them on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Well, at least it wasn't aggressive and like vindictive like
a poltergeist or some type of thing where it would
like randomly fall up and bust a foot or I
mean roll around like that creepy hand in the movies
when we were kids.

Speaker 11 (01:10:04):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
But I tell you I haven't gotten there yet. Oh no,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:10:10):
We should.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
We're just kind of starting so to the point where
as this thing started escalating to where we were having
two where we have we have we had four dogs
worth three dogs at that time we would come home
to sometimes. I mean I think it was kind of mad.
I mean, it would luck luck, our dogs and sometimes
closets to one night we were to do a point

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where it was it would seem like I'd come home,
you know, from the bar when I was working, and
and you know, you'd be laying there and you would
hear things like I would literally be like is it
my imagination? And you would hear this go down the
staircase kind of like we get, you know, from the
from the beginning to where the dogs be. Like when
I cleared his name was Malachi. He would always sleep

(01:10:56):
on our bed. And literally one night just when this
is the main been the main thing that happened is
when he had gotten pushed off the bed and then
I kind of lean over and then I swear I
thought somebody. I literally thought I was somebody in my house.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
That's not good.

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
And I said I've had enough to the point where
I called a priest, and you know, I was like
I'm going to have somebody, which I did. I had
a priest him in kind of.

Speaker 9 (01:11:23):
You know, you know, do the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
You know what, wait a minute, So for first clergy
you call he is the priest, and the priest comes
over and when you said, does this thing what what
is the thing that he does.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
It's not an exorcism.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
What do they do? I don't know how this works.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
So he goes into each room and he has this
holy water and he starts, you know, and he makes it.
He kind of has this has us go with him,
and he just said he blesses each room and he
does the holy water and he he says that he
says a certain verse and he you know, tells him
to go. And and so we were literally we spent
the time. So we literally had we went to each

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single room in our house and did.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
This and did it help?

Speaker 13 (01:12:05):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
No, did not.

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
And how did the priest did deplete priest believe you?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Or do the priest seem like he was just sort
of like trying to like just satisfy your ones and needs.

Speaker 13 (01:12:15):
That's a great question because you know that, you know,
I'm thinking that because Nolan Glendale and I know Glendale
is I think if you think of haunted places in
our house was built in eighteen seventy five.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
The old Morgan Mortgage trace trail right through Sharon on
Share Road, there's a lot of there's a lot of houses.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Yeah, I just mine that's kind of why so what
did did you do? And we're short on time. I'm
kind of curious, Jeffrey. So you have this going on,
the priest comes through, no luck with the priests. Subsequently
you still have problems. You have yet to move.

Speaker 11 (01:12:50):
See what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
This has gone on long enough a lot of people
would just been like, let's move.

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
Yes, So here's that's all. I'm I'm gonna cut it.
I know it's come to the end. So sure enough,
there's a there's a group and uh that was working
in Glendale and you could still they do haunted tours
in like some of the local breweries here and there.
They were. Yeah, and so they were in Glendale. I said, listen,

(01:13:14):
I need you to come to my house. And uh
so a day they came. Uh, they set up, they
came in. They started wiring our house up for sound.
And like I said, I not it short for time
and and I think this is when we really found Okay,
we've got something here, which to this day it doesn't
really scare me, but to the to make this short,

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so they wired this.

Speaker 10 (01:13:38):
They wire our house up.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
Fully for sound. They tried to do cameras, they couldn't
get any of the cameras to work, which I which
was kind of crazy. But as they were setting up,
they you know, these folks are great, and you know
they they've done other things that other homes, and then
there are certain things that they believe in different dementias
and and things that that occur to where we found

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that what we were kind of having. Yes, I think
there's a ghost that that we did see down I
have it like an old cellar, which I'll get to that.
But upstairs in our current I caught the portal in
our front room.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
And if you have no control over what's coming through
the Jeffrey.

Speaker 6 (01:14:22):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
So we wired the room up and she's downstairs. She's like, Tracy,
jeff I need you to come down here, and I
want you to listen while they're up there. So my
my at this time, my brother was kind of showing
them in the front room. They had two people that
going in there. Couldn't get any video. And I kid
you that all you hear, all you do is hear

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them kind of yelled what they're yelling, and we're like,
what's wrong, what's wrong? I hear one of the guys
on the you know, of her computer going the doll
just moved. I'm like, what what just okay? Now the
dolls Now, I'm going what's going on? So as this
starts to happen, this is so, this is what I
was I could shut it down because we literally as

(01:15:05):
these as they were talking, they were saying, we know
you're here, we know you're here.

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
Are you from here?

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
And you see as their voices on the screen as
the verberations of their vocal box is showing, right if
you watch ghose, yeah, they show this right, you could
see them talking. This thing goes no, just like I'm
talking to you. He goes no, and you don't see any.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Verberation from this voice, so you hear it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
There's no wavelength and you don't see that nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
So this voice was nobody in the room. So they're like,
where are you from?

Speaker 7 (01:15:39):
What you know?

Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
Are you from?

Speaker 6 (01:15:41):
Where are you from?

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
What time were you from and all? And this is
when it ended. He goes I'm just passing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Through, so just looking for a place to stay. How
long have you been there?

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
And to the people, the people that you bought the
house from, they didn't tell you that there was anything
happening in the house. No, do you think that you
think that it in when maybe in between your move
or see that's These are the type of questions I
would have. Did they know did they fail to disclose
like lead paints or termites?

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
I mean, I don't know. You know, there's a lot.
I got a lot of questions, Jeffrey, that's me WoT
you do? Thank you for sharing?

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
So it's no problem since nothing since like it just
passed through and then left after or is it just
like you cook out and you share beers.

Speaker 5 (01:16:27):
I would say you could, you could do it if
you're if I always we talked about to this day,
if you if you're in that front room in front
of the part of the house, you'll my dogs know it,
like you'll know when it comes through. You don't know
it just I kind of passes through, right But like
I can tell you right now, we have like an
old cellar that is under you have to open the

(01:16:49):
floor to get to. We went down there and we
and we don't know if it was part of during
the days when they were said we I still think
back then that hid slaves and things like.

Speaker 6 (01:17:02):
That in some of these houses.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
We thought that one of.

Speaker 5 (01:17:05):
One of the one of the there was a child,
and as he's talking this, I could keep going. And
that's the crazy thing, because I don't have enough time,
and I know you've got to do other people. But
I will tell you this, yes, that it was amazing
to least open my because we've had a lot of
things happened in.

Speaker 10 (01:17:21):
This house, from you know, coming down to the middle
of the night.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Here in a big trace, even more than you've already
told me. And what you've already told me is more
than I'm not looking to bring experts into my house.
I'm looking to sell what this type of stuff is
going on.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
Well, and I think that's what we became.

Speaker 7 (01:17:38):
We came.

Speaker 5 (01:17:38):
You can be kind of become part of it. It
doesn't now it's like I will say, like, we know,
we know it's not gonna stay here, right, it's just
coming through. Yeah. I mean my dogs might say, hey, bark, bark, bark, bark,
I know you're there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
See that's always unherving, even like I don't think there's
anything in mind house, and I know at least one
person has passed away there before. But my dog will
randomly just like stare off into the distance, and I'm like,
I don't know if he has Alzheimer's for dogs, or
if he actually sees or hears something, I'm like, what
are you talking about? And you hearing growl and there's nothing,
and it's in the center of the house. It's not

(01:18:17):
near outside exteror your wall, and I'm like, I don't
need or want to hear anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
This is very It could be. I appreciate that it could.
I hope, not hope. No, if I don't show up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
One day, you know, I don't want that. I don't
want that all you man, I don't either. I'm glad
you're here to tell the story. Thank you for sharing it.
I appreciate it because a lot of times you mentioned
this stuff, and Halloween maybe is the open door for it.
But you mentioned this type of stiff for some people,
and people get unnerved and they mock you and ridicule
you and marginalize you. And I probably won't do that

(01:18:49):
while you're on the phone.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
I always remember this, and I always say this to folks.
I always tell this to anybody. Why do you wake
up at three o'clock this when it always happens at
least here my house.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Usually you get to be a man of a certain age.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
You have a lot of water or coffee. You're like, well,
maybe I ought to like back off, but or you
got a ghost like Jeffery. Appreciate the call man, take
care of yourself and happy Halloween. Hey, Joe, I don't
want to be short. Can you do it in three minutes?

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Or do you want to wait?

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
Huh hey, I'll wait.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Okay, all right, well hang on, we'll come back and
we'll get to Joe and Mark and room for others.
Do you have a ghost story an interaction with some
type of something.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
I have so many questions. I'm looking for answers and
guidance and understanding. I'm also still wondering about the favorite
candy I found. I don't think in my entire life
where if I did. As a kid, I had it
sort of like dark chocolate and hated it. I remember
being in a situation where I like go to like
a relative's house or something, or or maybe a Halloween

(01:19:48):
and they'd have like the little miniatures, and they'd have
like the dark chocolate and then like the almond chocolate,
and I'm like our peanut chocolate.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
I'm like, I don't want that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
I just want like a milk chocolate, and then at
some point I embraced the dark chocolate. As I've got
and older. I found heath Bar this year and I'm
sure I probably had it, and it's like new to me,
and I'm a big fan now all of a sudden,
and it goes back to like the early twenties, early thirties,
apparently the Heath Brothers Confection Company, and I have found

(01:20:17):
I guess it's toffee or something and covered in chocolate,
and it's one of the greatest things ever. I've had
way more of those than I should have, and way
too much coffee. So if I seem like I'm vibrating
through your speakers or earbuds, or maybe on the podcast
as you streaming on the iHeartRadio app, or you could
leave a message by clicking the microphone. See I'm a professional.

(01:20:39):
You see how I weave that in here? Yeah, I
get things done on a Friday night, Mark Joe Others.
More conversation about ghost tours in Cincinnati and a lot
of ground to cover, all before midnight here where the
bear Cats hit the well. They're playing the Utes out
West primetime late for the West Coast with a ten
thirty five, I think kickoff, yeah, if I'm not mistaken,

(01:21:00):
And then you got the Bengals and the Bears Sunday
afternoon here on seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
All right, mister Penney, I'm going to show you some
images and you tell me what you see. Looks like
a butterfly listening to the Scott's Loan show, and this
one I.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
See a rocket ship.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
A rocket ship, yeah, lastingough for the planet Sloan I see.
And this one that looks like a fish swimming in
a mountain pond.

Speaker 7 (01:21:24):
Very good.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
Yeah, but a fish is angry because he's not listening
to Scott Sloan. Scott Sloan, please listen responsibly.

Speaker 10 (01:21:30):
Join me, Scott Sloan, Monday morning at nine on seven
hundred WLW.

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
Might be best for us to discuss some strong medications.
You know what your customers are doing.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
It was dramatic in Blue Jays fall to the Dodgers
three to one double play ended at last, just a
little bit ago after getting two to one in the
bottom of the ninth trying to get a walk off
or at least go to extras didn't work for the Bluebirds.
Dodgers and Blue Jays Tomorrow game seven scheduled for an
eight o'clock first pitch in Toronto.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
So there you oh and you see you get check
that out.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
And then you got bear Cats on the road taking
on the Utsa Utah Big twelve matchup. I think I
was wrong earlier. It's a ten to fifteen kickoff. That's late,
but a prime time for West coast markets. A lot
of people bleary eyed checking that out. And I was
talking to mister mc mannon off the air about this.
I didn't even think about it. Dan Horde, who is
like a madman, a marathon man, and just a consummate professional.

(01:22:25):
He'll handle that game play by play tomorrow night, of
course with Tony Pike, and I think Moegger is well
doing his bit, and then they'll fly home and then
he'll be up in time to handle the broadcast here
on the Big One. And are on the Bengals Radio
Network with Dave Lapham and Box Miller and company for
one o'clock kickoff with the Bears in town at pay
Corps before their bye week. So it should be interesting

(01:22:47):
to see how that all comes together. My guess is
probably drinking some caffeine. I would imagine hopefully, and I
can never sleep on a plane very well, he hopes,
maybe grab some sleep on the way home. I'd say, quickly, here,
let's get Charlie on seven hundred wl W. Appreciate your
patience and holding. What do you have with Sterling on
a Halloween night on the big One.

Speaker 14 (01:23:07):
Yes, I'm a radio w LW junkie. I've been listening
since eighty six. He's command Burbank Show three or four
different time now at a different time. But I used
to see stuff before it happened. My best one was
seeing Ronald Reagan killed. No, and my wife, she worked

(01:23:28):
at the State of Line, and she went and told everybody,
you know, my husband seem run. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
but of course he was shot, and after so many
years he was killed, he wasn't. They brought him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Back to life, right, So when did you start having
these visions, Charlie, Because I mean, that's an unusual thing.

Speaker 14 (01:23:50):
I've had several, but that was the best one that
you know, people knowed about, sure.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
And clearly also the best one to be because it
ended up that he actually was not killed, though he
did suffer and dealt with all well.

Speaker 14 (01:24:06):
He was killed but they brought him back to life
the exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Yes, that that's correct. So he did lose consciousness. Yes,
he apparently did pass away briefly before they resuscitate him.
I guess I'm brought him back. That's a pretty wild thing.
No other visions like that of consequence.

Speaker 14 (01:24:22):
I mean or no, nothing that makes you know, nothing
that anybody would.

Speaker 9 (01:24:27):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (01:24:27):
But you know several people this More than one. People
said they'd see me and they say, you have an
aura around you. I said, what I told, I don't
know what you're talking about. That was one person, then
another person. I think it happened three times. Didn't freak
me out, but I see I can see staff that happens.

(01:24:49):
That's not really significant, but I know it happens in them.
But the Ronald Ragan was my best.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
No, I'd say, so let me know if you're doing
that for the big, super fat, big dollar Lotto, at
some point we'll have you back on the show. We
can quietly have a vision and then collectively share the
bounty if you're willing to do that. Because I am
your radio friend, Charlie, I'm here for you.

Speaker 14 (01:25:12):
I've been I've been listening to LW since about eighty six,
and I've I went to Mount Adams, I come in
the big studio where you're at.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Sure three times I think, how about that?

Speaker 14 (01:25:25):
I'm with the friend. I'm with the friend of Garry.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
He was a good man, he certainly was.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
He made sure he made sure I ate when I
was doing afternoons at Channel Z and then later kiss
You'd always holler at me to come down the hall
early on when I was here sports or consequences and
make sure I had some good foods, some ribs or
whatever else before I went back up into my little
room with the window into a hallway. And all these
years later again a new building and everything. Charlie, I'm
looking through a window into a hallway, so some things

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don't change. Appreciate you being a part of the show
and listening. Straight away we'll have conversation with a guy
who knows from haunts and scary stuff, and I don't know,
maybe's vision two. Patrick Simmons, Cincinnati goes tour straight away
here on seven hundred W LW