Sterling Saturday -- 11/8/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sports, weather not quite right, a beautiful day in the
Tri State, a football bear cat and to Bengal weekend
by and a lot of time to spend together on
a beautiful Saturday afternoon at Sterling, hanging out Sean McMahon
to keep me in line, Belovely, the talented, the award
winning Matt Reese with News in about twenty two minutes
with your three thirty report in a stack deck conversation

(00:24):
set up for this afternoon with Tommy g from FC Cincinnati,
the voice of such. I'm going to talk about this well,
it's a winner, go home, hell is real TQL Stadium,
FC Cincinnati Columbus Crew playoff coming up a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We'll talk to him.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Kurt Ryber from the Free Store Food Bank, going to
give us the latest on the issue with the food
access a way to help for people in need, snap
issues and everything else making headlines which you just heard
in the news, mighty wall with space stuff talking about well,
apparently what I always joke with him about about space
debris and needing to get into the business of rumky

(01:01):
waste removal in space has caused a problem. This debris
up there for the International Space Station so we will
talk to him after five o'clock about it and to
start because times are always changing, and monumental change is challenging.
And even now here we sit on the eighth of

(01:22):
November twenty twenty five, and there are still parts of
the country who have not recovered from the so called
rust Belt era and transition from a past time of
industrialization in these United States. And if you look at
the history of the country and all the things that
have happened that has been disruptive to the way we
live and the way we work, it can be a

(01:43):
challenging situation. And a guy who knows from a dramatic change,
and as a futurist from Rethink X had him on
the show I think once before. I appreciate him making
time to come back as Adam Dore's environmental scientist technology theorist.
He also has a book called Writer Optimism, Progress in
the Future of Environmentalism. Welcome back to seven hundred WLW

(02:05):
with Sterling Adam Door, How are you fantastic?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Thanks for having me back.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm curious because everybody at this point has heard it
seems like every time you listen to a newscast, anytime
you flip around on whatever device you choose to be
reading news, push messages or otherwise. It's all about artificial intelligence.
It's all about getting kids in elementary school, primary school,
and college all they need to get to the next

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level because the future is coming. In fact, arguably, Adam,
the future is here now. So what should people be
thinking and doing when AI comes for them in their job?
Because we don't want to end up as your social
media post that got a lot of flack a couple
of weeks ago talking about horses. When the industry of
a revolution and a mechanized transportation came, the horse did

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not retool itself. They're just not out there working except
pulling buggies these days. So what about the human So
for right.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Now, we have to find a way to use AI
to our advantage. It has to be us and them
for the time being. That means, like any other tool
we've ever invented in the past, the people who succeed
best are the ones who learn how to use it.
We have to do that, and certainly that's our near
term project for the next say, five to ten years,

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But it does remain true that in the longer term
we won't be able to compete with AI is like
this is like aliens invading or something like that. These
new machines, these new artificial intelligences will one day, one
day be more capable than we are, but that day
is not right around the court. It's years away still,

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and that means that in the meantime, the way to
adapt is to find a way to use these new
technological tools to make our lives better, to make us
do better work in our professional lives, and to have
to have richer and expanded personal lives thanks to these
tools as well. So that's my advice. It's what I

(04:07):
work on doing in my own personal life and professional
life onboarding this AI capability so that it makes me
as a human being more capable. But that doesn't change
the fact that in the long term we are going
to have to figure out how to adapt to a
world where machines are more capable than we are in

(04:28):
the long run.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Talking to futurists from rethink x, Adam dre was sterling
on seven hundred WLW, the numbers came out to at
least partial numbers. Because of the shutdown, we don't see
everything when it comes to employment stats, but they say
that you know, the numbers of job losses were larger
than expected. There's a whole lot of other things going
on in the economy globally, not just domestically. But one

(04:49):
of the things publication after publication that I'm looking at
in prep conversation for you is that they say that
a good number of those are jobs that aren't coming back,
that are more suit tie kind of C suite or
executive middle management types that are already seeing appealing away,
or a layer of jobs being affected by AI. So
it may not be coming for the bulk of us immediately,

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but for those that are in between, already getting a
taste of this, what do you tell them when it
comes to retooling and trying to find a way because
not all of us can do hands on kind of jobs,
which seems to be maybe that's where the future is
for a lot of us, if you're not going to
be controlling the machines and the technology.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yes, well, this is.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
One of the most surprising things about this technology is
for the longest time we thought, well, you know, any
any job that involves using your brain more than your hands.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Is a job that's going to be safe.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
That's why we go to college. That's why we try
to get, you know, get a job where we're sitting
at a desk, working behind a computer instead of out
with our hands. And it is an irony, and fate
tends to be ironic. History shows that irony is a
big part of the human story. Here's another example of irony.
That the ais are coming for those jobs where we

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use our brains more than we use our hands. First,
this was not something that we saw coming. It's one
of those things that has taken almost everybody by surprise.
We did not expect that artificial intelligence would be would
be capable of doing the sorts of things that only
human minds have been capable of doing up until now.

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So it is true that jobs where you're manipulating physical
the physical world, where you're fixing things, where you're building
things with your hands, those jobs are going to be
secure for quite a bit longer than the sorts of
jobs where you're only where you're only using your mind
and you're sitting at the desk behind a computer. Pretty
soon artificial intelligence will be able to do a lot

(06:49):
of that. But I will reiterate you are you as
a human being, are more powerful with an AI as
a partner today than any AI could possibly be its
own without you. What that means is that for the
near term, AI plus human being partnerships are going to
be the most competitive combo. And so while we are

(07:10):
indeed seeing some layoffs and we are seeing some adjustments
in the job markets in the labor markets where AI
has been okay, let's say it's let's call it competitive,
I think this is probably a little bit of a
misleading early indicator. And what we're going to see is
that companies are going to are going to discover AIS
are not able to completely replace human beings yet now,

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as I said, that day will one day, that will
one day come, but we're not that close to it.
And for right now, for right now, if you are
a company, and if you are an employee of a company,
you both have the same picture ahead of you. Find
a way to make your your partnerships between the human
and the computer, between the human and the AI as

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powerful as possible, because that is where the competitive edge is,
whether you're whether you're working for a company or whether
you're running a company.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Talking to Adam Dora from rethink X as a Future
is talking about AI and how to plan ahead and
what should someone be studying and retooling at this thing,
Because a lot of the stuff that we've talked about
when it comes to artificial intelligence is streamlining processes and
systems and its ability to gather information and reprocess and
rethink it. For one of a better way to tie

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into rethink X in the idea as to making things easier,
more cost effective in ways that our brains are not
capable of by processing everything that's out there to be consumed.
So what now in the next three to five years
do you think.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Well, if I were, If I were my kids are
are twelve years old. Is six years old, But if
they were a decade older, if I had kids in
college today and they were asking me for advice, my
advice would be listen. It's it isn't about learning a
specific skill that you need to worry about these days.
It isn't about downloading a certain set of knowledge from

(09:03):
your college courses that you need to worry about. The
thing that's going to make you competitive is learning how
to think, not what to think. It's it's that's the
key distinction here. So yes, specific skills will start to
be obsoleted by AI specific knowledge. The AI can know

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more in any topic than any person can. They're they're
literally have encyclopedic knowledge and in pretty much any domain
you can name. So you're not going to compete with
an AI by trying to know more or by trying
to have deeper, narrow skills. Intellectually, at this point, where
you're going to be valuable is knowing how to think effectively,
knowing how to solve any problem, knowing how to think critically,

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knowing how to think logically. That is where your advantage lies.
And so any any degree program, any kind of training,
can give you that broad set of thinking capability, of
of skills that aren't narrow and limited, but rather are
generalizable and applicable across many, many different domains. And that

(10:09):
is how you're going to be an effective partner working
with artificial intelligence instead of trying to compete against it.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
It's Starling talking to Adam Door from Rethink Acts About
the Future and Artificial Intelligence seven hundred wlw Okay, So
let's jump ahead a few more years. Adam and the
idea of arguably being like the horse or the randomly
seen and rarely seen phone booth. At this point, unless
you're waiting for a delayed flight at CVG or someplace
else as we try to, you know, get our airline

(10:40):
situation straight away in the midst of the shutdown and
everything else at this point, which is not funny, but
it is funny all at the same time. But the
idea of what will the excess people be doing with
their time and the talk of a universal wage, which
I am bewildered by, but a significant number of jobs

(11:02):
as we understand employment to be right here and right now,
what will be doing and how will they support themselves
to be able to have some sort of quality of life?
Is so much else has improved overall with artificial intelligence,
or at least as we see what the future might be.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, my team thinks that the biggest challenge that we
face as a civilization today, and hey, maybe that we've
ever faced, is figuring out over the next fifteen to
twenty years, how do we make this paradigm shift from
a world where almost all of us have to work
for a living to a world where almost none of

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us have to work for a living. How do we
make that shift? And by the way, in the middle
of that shift, because of AI and because of robots
because the machines will be doing so much of the
production work.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
We are going to be living in.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
A society where it isn't less prosperous than today, but
it's much much more prosperous today. And what I mean
by that is we're going to have to figure out
as a society how to have a world where most
of us don't work for a living. And at the
same time, there's way more goods and services available in
the economy than ever before. And I don't mean just

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a little bit more, but we're talking double, triple, five times,
ten times more goods and services, more prosperity across society
than ever before, with almost nobody needing to punch a
clock for a living. How do we transition? How do
we make the leaf from where we are today to
that kind of system which is very different. And what

(12:42):
my team is working on right now is what are
the steps along the way to make that transformation as
smooth and as stable as possible. We know that this
is a huge adjustment to make. We know that we're
heading as an incredibly awesome stellar future, the kind of
thing that we only even dreaming about in science fiction
for generations. We know that's now pretty much right around

(13:04):
the corner. You ask the key question, which is, how
do we get from here to there without running on,
you know, the entire train off the rails here. In
the meantime, we know we've got a tricky, a super
super tricky challenge of navigating this running the gauntless here
and getting there in one piece. That's our challenge, and

(13:25):
my team has a few ideas. But let me say
before anything else, that nobody knows the answer to this question.
It is the sixty four trillion dollar question that we
need to be asking ourselves as a civilization and as
a society. So nobody's got all the answers. I'll give
you one key guiding principle which is worth thinking about
in this context, and that is we have to admit

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we don't know the answers, and that means we have
to begin experimenting with an open mind and learning from
our mistakes and our successes and everybody else in this
else's mistake and successes as fast as possible. If nobody
knows what the right thing to do is, you have
to start testing. You have to start trying things out,
and wherever you see success, you copy it and wherever

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you see failure, you steer clear by a mile. And
that's the best single guiding principle to get us through
this enormous, challenging transition period today.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
This is a huge transition. I mean, just in the
news before you came on. We'll hear about it again
in about eight minutes. You know, those in DC lawmakers
at this point fighting about point three percent of the
US federal budget when it comes to snap funds to
feed the better part of eleven percent of our population
that regularly does have a food insecurity with a help
without a helping hand from Uncle Sam. To go to

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the next level to say where there's all this prosperity
and hardly anyone relatively speaking to now will need to
be working. That is a huge paradigm shift to where
we are now, where people are concerned about if they
get to know the food bank or if they're going
to have to figure out on how much they're going
to be able to feed their kids before Monday comes.
I mean, that is some ponderous stuff. What have I

(15:06):
not asked Adam Dorr about the future about retooling, about
artificial intelligence, because I know enough to know I don't
know enough.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
That's a wise question, my friend. I would say that
we need to take comfort and we need to have
confidence that we can do this because we've had challenges
like this before. Believe it or not, we've overcome massive,
massive technological transformation challenges before. Our ancestors. Ancestors have been

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through radical change before. It's any time in any at
any point in history. It feels like now is the
exceptional moment and we face unique challenges. And to some extent,
of course, that's always true. But it's also true that
we we've been through some rough patches before, our grandparents,
great grandparents and on back into history based enormous, enormous transformations,

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and they got through it okay, and so can we.
I'll give you a couple of examples. One is that
in the late eighteen hundreds, virtually virtually everyone around the world,
and even in the most advanced countries like the United States,
more than eighty percent of people were still farmers. More
than eight out of ten people that you met were farmers,

(16:28):
because that is what it took. With the technology, we
had to grow enough food to feed everybody. It took
almost everyone in society. Fifty years later, that number was
down to just three or four percent, and today it's
under two percent of our population are farmers, and yet
we're producing more food today than ever before. Now, that

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was a huge transformation in just a couple of generations,
going from almost everyone to being farmers to only a
tiny fraction of people being farmers, and what happened to
everybody else? They made via They could do it. They
did it our our grandparents and great grandparents, not that
long ago, not thousands of years ago, but in some
cases almost in living memory. They managed to make that

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kind of that kind of leap into a new technological era.
So we can do it again. They did it, and
so can we. I'm optimous students in ourselves. You make
me feel a little bit more positive. And we are
closer to flying cars at least a flying taxi sooner
than later, so it won't be bad. He's Adam dor
I appreciate you making time. I know you're very busy
rethinkx dot com. He's a futurist and by the way,

(17:33):
a good reading the book Brighter Optimism, Progress in the
Future of Environmentalism. Thank you for making time. I hope
you enjoyed the rest of your weekend, and I hope
you're correct about everybody being okay.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
In the future. I'll probably be dead by then, so
we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Always a pleasure, Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Take care of yourself. He's Adam dor More Sterling coming back. Also,
Tommy G. FC Cincinnati going to join me. We'll talk
on Columbus Crew in town, Hell Israel, as FC Cincinnati
looks to play on in the MLL playoffs on seven
hundred ww glad here along. It's a beautiful afternoon in Cincinnati,
the tri State looking good before we talk of snow

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and cold downtown West NTQL Stadium the place the round
of sixteen. I don't call it a sudden death match,
but it's a winner go home kind of situation. As
FC Cincinnati founded in twenty fifteen, going to the USL
twenty sixteen. Here they are, twenty twenty five, facing off
against their foe, making their way down seventy one from

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Columbus the Crew and Hell is real on the line now,
Tommy G. Tommy Gallagher, the voice of FC Cincinnati, Fox
Sports thirteen sixty with a six o'clock kick tonight as
it gets underway. First of all, I appreciate you making time.
I know you are getting prepared like everyone else to
do the game tonight. How are you? How is the vibe?

(18:52):
How exciting has the organization been for this club?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Right now? Is once again they try to get to
the next level.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
Sterling my man, good to hear you.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
You really set the tone there with the bumper music
coming back from break so I appreciate that. Sean nick Man, Yeah,
that is it is sewn me Mann. Either way, that
gets me juiced up even more. We're now what two
and a half hours away from kickoff, and I feel
like these two and a half hours are gonna go
by very very slowly to get us a six twelve
pm tonight. But listen, I think everybody's excited. I think

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everybody you know a little nervous when you take on Columbus.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
That's the case.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
They won game one, you know, in a match in
which they really controlled most of the game, and then
obviously went up to Columbus and things went sideways pretty quickly.
So I think it'll be a very intense night. The
crowd obviously is going to be fantastic. But yeah, I
would say everybody who is here in the building right
now and at this point it's just staff and the
player are starting to trickle in. Everyone is very excited

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for this game three this evening.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Talking to Tommy GFC Cincinnati used to voice calling the
game tonight Fox Sports thirteen sixty this playoff. I think
it's funny because I'm talking to my neighbor about this
and he's like, I'm trying to understand all the different
cups in the tournaments. Okay, Well, I'm like, this is
MLS Cup. This is not some of the other side
items that sort of go on through the season. For
those who were still new or uninitiated and starting to

(20:11):
see how all these different things come together. Can you
break down MLS Cup compared to some of the others
that they've been including International Attorneys.

Speaker 7 (20:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Look, there's been four opportunities to win trophies this year
for s C Cincinnati, and now the biggest one is
still out there with MLS Cup ahead if if they
can advance beyond tonight and get to that. The first
week of December, so they started with COCKCAFF champions Cup,
that's the Continental Championship of North America and Central America,
and then the Caribbean Islands are in there as well,

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so that's the one they participated in the last two years.
Took on Monterrey a couple of years ago, and we
saw Tea Grace this past year down from Mexico, went
to Honduras, Jamaica. So there's been some different trips involved
in that competition. You have League's Cup when it's all
the Leagua, some of the Leagua MX teams and some
of the MLS teams are throwing out the mix that
was this summer, and then of course you're fighting for

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the Supporter Shield and now you're now you're battling for
MLS Cup. So the way that this tournament works, the
first rounds the best of three, so game one and
three here in Cincinnati, Game two and Columbus and the
home team has won the two previous games so far
here in this series. The rest of the way, it'll
be a single match elimination, so no more of these
best of three series. There however, is an international break

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next weekend, so next weekend off, if f C Cincinnati
were to advance, and then they would be home against
Miami or Nashville in the conference semifinal, and then potentially
I have to go to Philadelphia if they're still alive
at that point and the Union are in it in
the conference final. The good news is if they get through,
they host MLS Cup or they make it MLS Cup,
then they know they will host it because they finished
with more points overall in the regular season than everybody

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in the Western Conference.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
So that's where we're at right now.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
It's all one game elimination the rest of the way
and the really really big one against the rival here
this evening talking to.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Tommy Gallar's the voice of FC Cincinnati Crew in Town
Hell is Real, Part three of this first leg of
the Less Cup playoff a TQL and on Fox Sports
thirteen sixty with Sterling.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
It's time to gee.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
So breaking it's an interesting thing some seasons, and there
are stretches depending on who's playing and who's not. On
any club, you will see home being more friendly in
teams performing better this year. Columbus Crew, I think they've
only won maybe four or five matches while on the road.

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We saw a drastic difference in the way they played
and the way FC Cincinnati was able to react and
handle business in these first two matches. As far as
FC Cincinnati is concerned who is in, who is out,
and what is it that you think makes them so
strong generally, because it has been an amazing thing outside
looking in, just talking from the very beginning to where

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they are now, to be so much of a contender
in a relatively short period of time, just trying to
get to the next level.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Well, there was a lot of good news on Thursday
from Pat Noonan as he did his press conference that
the health of the team is pretty good. Matt Miaska
is still out. They were hoping, maybe, you know, he'd
be able to work his way back. He got a
little bit of on field time this week, but not
able to be part of the roster for today's match.
But should if Cecincinnati advance, the thought is that we'll
see Matt potentially in two weeks in that conference semifinal

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here in this building. So Matt is out in the
New Yakuba who got the red card in the first
half at Columbus, he's not available, but everybody else is
available for selection, so that's great. That means that Nick
Haglin's back in to the mix and potentially could start
after missing game two. Of course, he started game one,
picked up a little bit of a knock and then
was not able to go, and they knew that they
were going to play another one no matter what happened,
whether you win Game two or you lose Game two,

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there was going to be another match for Cccincinnati.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
They wanted to make sure that Nick was available for that.
So he is available today.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
Certainly could provide a big boost should he start on
the back line. The team has done really well when
he has started this year. Lucas Engel came in, he
played a half against Columbus in Game two, so he's
available and the potential that he could start, I mean,
he talked with the media this week and certainly had
the mentality that he wants to start that He said
that you got to go out there and fight for
ninety minutes and essentially die in your boots. So he's

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ready to go. And this is a player that's on
loan in this first season with that c Ccincinnati. He
wants to fight, you know, to the very end here
for this game tonight. Luga or Ashano has been working
his way back to fitness, so he's available potentially to
step into the starting lineup. Obviously, there has to be
a change because you got Kubo cannot start because he
is suspended, so it'll be very interesting to see where
pat Nowon goes there as he makes his decision and

(24:26):
who he decides to put out there at left wing
back against this very talented Crew team.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
What if I missed Tommy g Is.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I'm thinking about it because there's about twenty directions I
want to go in this and I can get down
to the minutia of little stuff that I realize in
a short amount of time. It's not that so what
in short order to do? People drive in right now
around towntown and joining themselves trying to figure out, you know,
how big of a deal this really is.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Generally speaking, I think the key here, Stirling is that
the team has to start and be strong defensively from
the beginning of the match handle the pressure that Columbus
will now no doubt throw at them. That wasn't the
case in the game in Columbus, and therefore it got
away from him, and you know, it got away from
them very quickly, and the Crew were able to control
that match. So I think if you control the match

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defensively early and then you settle into the game and
you let your offensive weapons get going you haven't done
a whole lot so far through the first two games
of the playoffs, then you're setting yourself up for success.
I felt like in game one the team followed the
game plan really really well, and in game two they
were missed assignments. So if you can follow the game plan,
you can be strong defensively. Then the Orange of Blue

(25:31):
set themselves up for success in this one.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Look forward to hearing you tonight Fox Sports thirteen sixty.
If you're not watching Apple Plus or whatever it is,
Tommy gen Tommy Gallo.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah, and Apple TV, you could switch over.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
You can use the home radio option and tune in
to myself and Kevin on the broadcast.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
Then it's SYNCD up for you. You don't have to.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
You know, one of my good friends on the road games,
he'll pull up his laptop and he syncs it up
every game. But this one, no, you just go click
on the little audio icon you switch over to the
home radio option.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
So if you're not going to be here.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
Which should be, it's an absolutely beautiful night before you
had me on, I'm listening to the weather forecast. It's
about to you know, dip a little bit temperature wise,
but not tonight. It is beautiful tomorrow tonight.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
To end the cruise season. That's what I'm looking at
right now.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Well, let's say not end it. Let's just say keep
the goaling. No no, in the cruise season. Oh cruise season.
I'm sorry, yeah yeah, okay yeah, send them back up.
Seventy one miserable.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Seventy one miserable, and then book of date two weeks
from now against Miami or Nashville.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Here in this building.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
There you go, because hell Israel. He's Tommy G. Tommy Gallagher,
Thank you for making time. You're a good man. I
look forward to the match as well. Tonight. It's a
FC Cincinnati hosting Columbus Crew. It's a winner go home
scenario for MLS Cup. Thank you, my man. Have yourself
a great game tonight.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Thank you you too.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Take care of yourself. More sterling coming back seven hundred
WLW Cincinnati and action later trying to get ahead in
the MLS playoff.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Thanks to Tommy G.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
For making time earlier Fox Sports thirteen, where you'll get
an ear full of that, or to watch it and
listen at the same time later. Kurt Ryber Freestore Foodbank
going to join us. We'll find out about snap benefit
issues and how you can maybe lend a hand to
help those in need or if you need a little
assistance with it since there's a whole lot of people
on furlough or laid off or whatever else when it
comes to the government shutdown situation. That's after four. Mike

(27:19):
Dwall from space dot Com gonna join us later too.
I have for years, I guess now, talked about in
debris in space, junk in orbit up and around and
the dangers of it with Mike d Wall and other
scientist types. Apparently the reality is that there's caused a
problem with it, and now the International Space Station is

(27:40):
dealing with some debris hit issues. So we'll pick his
brain on that and whatever else after five o'clock. Good
way to go on that flying solo today. Donna de
later on with her relationship show, and I believe Chick
Ludwig coming up after me. Let's see what all is
going on. Indiana one earlier, talking to college football, I
remember when the Hoosiers were horrible, like my entire childhood.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
They sucked.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
They got by Penn State twenty seven to twenty four,
ranked number two, in the country. Ohio state, of course,
leading the nation number one, thirty four to three right now,
fourth quarter over those Purdue boiler Makers is going to
be a rough ride home to Indiana for them. Oregon
plays later against Iowa, Washington, Wisconsin a bit later Louisville
in action at home taken on California Notre Dame, Rocky's

(28:28):
alma mater, hosting Navy tonight as well in prime time.
I want to mention something is There's not a ton
of time to get into it, but I feel like
I need to and maybe we'll get into a bit later.
I don't know if you've seen this in the news.
You may have heard about it. There's the father of
a kid from Cincinnati public schools. I believe it was

(28:49):
Roberts Academy. Thursday came out, they've published WLWT Channel five
has got some photos of this picture in the back
of this van with this young kid student, a child
who I don't want to say duct taped and it
wasn't zip tized, but it looked like it says taped
in some fashion. Apparently was out of control, apparently having

(29:10):
a behavioral issue, didn't want to go to another school.
I don't know exactly what was happening. Either way, it
was like a twenty minute drive, as it's been talked
about here, and the guy was basically subdued in a
way that you would expect it to be for a
criminal or criminally insane, or as somebody messaged me after
last night's show when I talked about this, like maybe
they were an illegal immigrant who was being taken away

(29:32):
to buy ice to be deported or something, and not
a school student in these United States, let alone Cincinnati,
So you know, looking at it, I don't know if
you ever watched like Locked Up or the Jail series.
They've done a few of those in Cincinnati at the
Jail Downtown and a few others. They do Las Vegas regularly,

(29:52):
sort of the way they've done like First forty eight
and so forth.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
That's the homicide show.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
And you'll show like prisoners that are acting like out
of control, and they'll put that spit guard on them
when they're spitting or if they're acting out or whatever else.
But in a school setting, wouldn't you think that maybe
possibly they would have someone who might be able to
help a kid who is having some type of issue

(30:18):
with behavior and how they're dealing with whatever is presented
to them, rather than just tying them up or taping
them up. Seeing the picture, hearing the story, reading the story,
and there'll be more details to come out on this.
I don't want to miss speak on it. The facts
still have to come out. If you listen closely, you

(30:39):
can hear the litigation beginning. You can almost hear the
briefs being put together and someone looking to get a
big fat money check for somebody not handling their business correctly.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I was a kid of the eighties, basically in the seventies.
When I came up, the corporal punishment.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Was common.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
You get like with a paddle. You had teachers that
would occasionally sometimes you just go to blows. I sought
in one of my five high schools, at least one,
they would take gum. If you were chewing gum in
the classroom, put your nose in it, and have you
stand against a blackboard or in the hallway.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
They would mock you and ridicule you.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
I got suspended for being late to school three days,
three days in a quarter. I could have skipped school
the third day and not been suspended. Instead of showing
up late because I thought I'd be better late than not.
I guess it was a lesson learned, but it was
a ridiculous thing to kick a kid out of school
for three days who was busting his ass to get there.
You would think in twenty twenty six, whether it's a

(31:42):
transportation situation and somebody is a driver, it's someone from
a school, or otherwise, would somehow have a better handle
on navigating a kid with a behavioral problem. You would
think whether it's a resource officer, a psychology or something
along those lines. I mean my observation or hallucination, or

(32:05):
is this parent as I understand it to be. Ask
the most basic question of all, why would they not
have reached out to the parent to navigate this circumstance
which really seems glaringly obvious to me. But we'll see,
there'll be more details to come out. We'll talk on
kids and navigating that. You know, the unsung heroes, and

(32:25):
people always talk about schools underperforming and this, that and
the other thing. It's very difficult, I believe, just like
police and you know, emergency room and first responders like
fire and ems, teachers are public servants and they have
to navigate a lot, and it's the great equalizer because
all kids should be going to school unless they're homeschooled.

(32:46):
So you know, some kids navigate these waters better than others.
Some have issues and coping skills, and apparently some adults
have coping skill issues too and don't know how to
actually handle somebody tape them up, throwing them in the
back of a van, as it's alleged, seems a little
over the top, but that's just my observation or hallucination.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
My name is Sterling.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Saturday Afternoon, beautiful Day or four o'clock reports straight away.
A guy who doesn't tape anybody up unless it's private time.
An award winning newsman who knows a thing or two
about a thing or two to dispense mass quantities of
information and food for our head. He is the legendary
Matt Reese. We'll come back, We'll talk to Kurt Riber, Freestore,
food bank, space, stuff coming up, and a whole lot more.

(33:27):
On a Saturday, Sterling. Where the Woday play when it's
not a bye week, as do the football bear Cats
basketball beer Cats won last night and they stay undefeated
as the Xavier two nights ago hang out. It's more
Sterling here home of the Reds as well. The hot
stove season is upon us seven hundred W well covered
your pantry or otherwise. More and more people in these

(33:48):
times we're living in right now, government workers, employees, government contractors,
you name it. Not just even in good times when
the Free Store Food Bank and others are doling out
to lots of food. People that even though they work,
that they have maybe even multiple jobs, have kids, or
otherwise need a helping hand from time to time. Very generous.

(34:09):
We are here in the Tri State trying to help
people out. And a guy who oversees all all kinds
of giving at the Free Store Food Bank, including educational
opportunities and everything else to help people stand up on
their own and to be able to get by in
a better situations. The head man in charge, Kurt Riber,
Welcome back to seven hundred WLW on a Saturday afternoon, Sterling.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
How you doing hey, Sterling meets you with you and
always we appreciate the opportunity to share what's going on
and you know, clear up some misperceptions on some folks part,
but also let people know how they can get assistance when.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
They need it.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Now, what are the misconceptions, because this is the thing
that's interesting to me, and I don't care where people
fall in the political spectrum, It makes no difference. I
don't want anyone to be hungry. But SNAP benefits, as
I understand it, which accumulate to about forty seven point
on forty one point seven million Americans on a regular basis,
a third of which are children, as I understand it

(35:04):
from stats from twenty three, the last fiscal year available,
which works out to be somewhere in the neighborhood of
seventeen point eight billion dollars of federal tax money to
help those people regularly with their food cards or food stamps,
whatever else. And that means children, that means elderly, it
means veterans, it means hard working people, it means retirees.

(35:25):
That is still just zero point three percent of the
federal budget. That is factual information. But I have heard
people talk about a lot of different things about the
need in the tri state and just in general, how
overblown it may or may not be. What is misinformation
or misunderstood and can you clear it.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
Up for us?

Speaker 8 (35:45):
Well?

Speaker 4 (35:45):
I think some of the challenges right now is whether
not Stamp is going to be paid or not going
to be paid, and right now it's tied up in
the courts. And that's unfortunate because we thought that at first,
the unfortunate you know, a partial pain was going to
be made on Snap benefits and that right now is
being withheld you pending some litigation is going on. But

(36:09):
one thing I want to make sure that people know
is that if they have Snap benefits that are currently
on their cards, you know, from October or earlier, they
can still use those those Snap benefits through the month
of November and in December if they last that long.
And that's really where we want people to understand. We
also want people to know that they can come to

(36:30):
our tow markets, our liver sheet market, and our betailor
market throughout the week and get the fixings further Thanksgiving meal,
but also we're providing an additional twenty to thirty percent
more food, trying to trying to bridge that gap from
when the family's next last benefit check was till their
next benefit check is. And I think that's something that

(36:53):
we want people to understand that you know, we're here
to support them and be with them and really can
continue to provide the supports needed to really give them
a hand up.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Talking to free store food banks, Kurt Rber was sterling
on the Big One. I heard of the last couple
of days here on the Big One, as well as
reading that you were in need of those that would
be able to donate some time maybe to step up
to help distribute some of the food stuffs that you
have for people that are in need at this point.
Where do you stand on that and how can people

(37:26):
lend a hand I obviously know about Freestore Foodbank dot
org dot org. I can talk English in being able
to get more information and also to donate as well
as link people to waste to get help.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Absolutely, we have the ability, and we have one hundred
and forty amazing team members that are on the front line,
one hundred working at Freestore, but we have over twelve
thousand volunteers, and right now we need those volunteers because
the volunteers are going to help us because we're seeing
just a massive amount of people. We're seeing twenty five
to thirty percent increase in demand in our two markets,

(38:00):
plus we're seeing that anecdotally in our six hundred plus
pantries that we serve in the twenty counties. So if
folks can come and donate some of their time and
volunteer to either pack our power backs, pack our senior boxes,
or help us restock the shelves of our markets, that
would be critically important right now, and we're seeing upward.
We're seeing over four hundred families a day at both

(38:22):
our Livery Street Market and our Betailor Market, and that
is up almost thirty five percent over the same time,
you know, last month, and last year. It's even even
above that during the Thanksgiving holiday season, So that's what
we're seeing. We had a lot of great volunteers that
came in the past, you know, you know a week

(38:43):
or so helping us restock those shelves. But the food
is going out, families are coming in, and our volunteers
help us really make a difference for those families because
they can come in, you know, get the food they need,
and then you know, get back onto into their lives,
and those volunteers help us do just that.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Kurt Ryber Freestore Food Bank bus with Sterling on seven
hundred WLW. You know how much of the increase you say,
twenty five to thirty percent.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
How much of that, do you see.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I don't know how you get your data, but it
can be attributed to the government shut down and either
employees at right Pad or contractors in and around the
Tri State so many other government agencies where people are
either working for free at this point for back money
later they hope to get in trying to struggle through.
Because even those government employees that are essential workers that

(39:35):
a lot of people, you know, want to mock and
ridicule about cutting fat are people that help the government
in the nation keep moving and they're doing their work
and not getting paid if they're able to actually go
to work. How many of them are a part of
this increase or is this just an economic situation with
the downturn.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Do you think it's a couple both of them come together, Sterling,
and we have fifteen thousand federal workers and contract workers
that are here in the Tri State area that we're supporting.
But we've also seen just the increase due to the
fact that we've got inflationary pressures out there. Grocery prices
are high, gas line prices, housing prices, all those things,

(40:14):
you know. You know, the government shutdown and the loss
of snap benefits just exacerbate that that problem, you know,
many times over. So when you say we have fifteen
thousand workers, I mean, you know, this is hitting my
family personally. I've got I've got a son who's been furloughed.
It's not being getting paid. I've got a son in
law who's in the Air Force, and you know, fortunately

(40:38):
they got their last paycheck, but they don't know about
the next paycheck. This is hitting everybody, and it's you know,
it's not these are people that are working that are
just not getting paid, that have been furloughed, that have
been laid off, that have missed paychecks. You know, so
many families in our Tri state area with paycheck to paycheck.
And we saw this during the pandemic as well. Folks,

(41:00):
we're struggling and they haven't really recovered from the pandemic.
So now we throw on top of this the government
shutdown and the loss of snap benefits, and that is
just really stretching. You know, everybody's reserves, everybody's resources, and
the Free Store has been there and will continue to
be there for the families that we serve. And that's

(41:21):
what I want people to understand, is that we're digging
into our reserves. We are already have committed to purchase
another one point eight million dollars worth of food just
to cover November and December of this year. That doesn't
you know, and we don't know what's in pr for
us in the new year, but we know that November

(41:42):
and December we're going to be there for our families.
So in addition to the food additional food that we're
providing in our markets, we're also providing all the food
that we're purchasing at a fifty percent discount to our
six hundred plus pantries across our twenty county service area.
And that's something that I think will go a long
ways towards trying to meet those neighbors right where they're

(42:03):
at in their communities, because that way we can buy
it a much better price than any of our pantries
can purchase, but then beating it, we're giving them a
discount so that they I mean, we'll continuing to get
all the donated product that we get in free to everybody,
but even the purchase product, we're giving it a discount,
which I think will hopefully help, you know, stematize bridge

(42:26):
the gap, whatever you want to say in terms of
helping us get beyond this government shutdown.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Talking to Kurt Ryberies for the Free Store Food Bank
was Stirling on seven hundred WLW and people are able
to go to Freestore Foodbank dot org. They can donate
there as well. We know that a huge you know,
when you look at the charity organizations and so forth,
you're wanting to see most of that money pass through
it and go to you know, the calls of which
you care about, and you were tremendous at that it's

(42:54):
an excess of ninety percent that actually goes straight through
to help those in need.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Correct as we're very good storages of the resources we
get in. I think that's why people have rallied behind us,
you know, and certainly I have to you know, I
have to commend our team that's been going out and
raising funds, but also letting folks know what the impact
is of this government shutdown for the families that we're

(43:18):
that we're serving. As you said before, seventy to seventy
five percent of the families we serve are working. They're
just not making enough money to make ends meet, so
they you know, they skip meals, they forego medicine, they
have to make a decision do I pay my rent
or do I buy food? And then two thirds of
the families have to make those tough decisions each and

(43:39):
every day. So the work that we're doing right now
is critically important to keep people stabilized and moving in
the right direction. You know, we're imploring our elected officials
to get back to work to get the government reopened,
and you know, and and and move forward because you know,
the families that we're serving are relying on those efforts

(44:03):
to really make a light and life for themselves.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Allie and Covington asked as she reached out at Sterling
Radio on x She said, what about kids in school
lunch programs in WIK program? Have those been affected with
the shutdown? And how does that play into what you
do a freestore foodbank.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
The WIK program, is my understanding, has been funded under
some reserve dollars that they were at the USDA was
able to access. So that's going to be available through
November and December. My understanding, when the new year comes,
that will be a different model at that point in time.
As far as school lunches for kids, eight out of
ten kids in the twenty county served by the Freestarre

(44:44):
FUBEC are eligible for free and reduced lunches. So if
this continues on the funding of the USDA could be
impacting those lunches and breakfast items for the kids. And this,
you know, goes on beyond the next so two or
three weeks, So we're keeping a very close eye on that.
We're trying to find out what resources and reserves the

(45:07):
federal government can put into those two programs to keep
those operational. We already know that there's a challenge as
far as what available funding is for the SNAP benefits,
but the other two programs appear to be programs that
have received at least alternative funding sources that allow them

(45:27):
to continue to operate good well.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
I hope that stays the case.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
It's not so great or healthy when kids are hungry
and can't be prepared to learn, which we talk about
on a regular basis when we have you on her
Kurt Ryberfreestorefoodbank dot org, where you can find out more
and you can donate time. Find out how you can
do that, or call up some cash or get yourself
some help if you are in a food insecurity situation.
Anything else before I let you bounce into the rest
of this beautiful Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Kurt, absolutely, Strillian. What I want to tell people folks
as well, is that this coming week we are going
to have a double yr dollars day. We have to
have some one tiful donors that have contributed dollars, our
second helping donors that have contributed dollars, so that the
dollars that are going to come in, these gifts that
come in, these donations that come in this week will

(46:11):
be doubled. So instead of being able to have one
dollar equal free meals, one dollar for them the equivalent
of six meals. So that's going to go a long
ways towards helping us restock the shelves, meet the needs
of the families that we're serving, and really make a
difference in our Tri State community.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Well, I appreciate what you do, your entire team, and
everyone from the Tri State who coughs up a little
cash donates their time those with the double and matching dollars,
which is tremendous. And a lot of people who are working,
people that hit it and do it every day, some furloughed,
some expected to work and continue without getting paid, which
is also bewildering in the midst of this shutdown, but

(46:47):
I guess that's the nature of life. Thank you for
making time doing what you do, and I hope the
rest of the weekend is a good.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
One for you.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Hey, Sterlin, thanks so much for having me on and
appreciate your all support.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
He's Kurt River, man in charge at the Free Store
Food Bank. More Sterling, coming back. We've been serious. We've
looked at solving the world's problems, as ken Brew likes
to say that I do. On the other side, and
through the rest of the afternoon, we'll have some fun
trying to cause some more. We'll talk to Mike d
Wall from space dot Com after five. We'll talk on
some odd unusual smells or sense that you appreciate. I

(47:21):
touched on this last night, but I found one that
I had forgotten about, and then I know that I'm
not the only one who appreciates them. So we'll star
talk on smells and sense the unusual and a lot
more before space stuff before we get to our man
chick Ludwig and then Donna d later on. It's a Saturday, Sterling.
Appreciate you being here. It's a beautiful one in the
tri State before the snow comes. We'll give you details

(47:44):
on that on the other side, seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
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are tough, I know I can count on Bill Cunningham,
and you may be feeling beaten like a birthday pinata.

Speaker 9 (47:57):
Sometimes I wish I could give him a big wet
kiss and say thank you.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
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asking me, why can't you be more like Willie? Open
your ears and hear my mighty words of hope?

Speaker 6 (48:09):
Bill Cunningham, Monday at twelve noon on seven hundred w
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Speaker 2 (48:15):
Have you taken your family to dinner recently?

Speaker 7 (48:17):
Have been shocked by the price of that Bill?

Speaker 10 (48:20):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Recent studies are saying there's.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Really inducted in the Rock Hall of Fame Cleveland tonight.
Paul Roger. I didn't know he was under the weather.
Heard weather at weather, what is that about? I can't
talk heard and brew talking about it earlier. Sound going
to be in as well as Salt and Pepper and
white stripes. The legendary now dead warren Zevon and Cindi Lauper,

(48:43):
she's still here. Joe cocker'stad too. They're all getting into
the rock Hall of Fame. Chubby Checker, Carol Kay. Who
would I leave out? Nicky Hopkins, I think, and Lenny Warnker.
So there you go, coming up after your four thirty report. Though,
we'll talk on odds smells in night. I touched on
this last night, which sounds dirty. I want to talking
about odd smells and touching, so don't get weird on me.

(49:04):
But let me just say this. So I was getting
rid of the decaying pumpkin or jack O lantern at
the House of Sterling, and then I'm getting it because
it's starting to fall apart, and I get a whiff
of the smell of the burning candle inside the pumpkin.
I was like, it took me back to being a
tiny like little Sterling, and I was like, man, I
love the smell of that. It made me almost feel

(49:26):
like eating the decaying pumpkin, which is probably not the
wisest choice, but it got me thinking about odd smells
that you like. So on the other side, we'll talk
stuff that may stink to others that you may enjoy
or just strange things that you go.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I like it a lot after Matt Reeves, who smells great.
By the way, I'm sure not that I've been that close.
He's in a room with the window into a hallway
all by himself right now. To give you news that
you need to know what the hell is going on
in your world. Right here, right now, on a Saturday,
sterling seven hundred wulw seven hundred wlw smells good.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Some stuff.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
It doesn't smell good to a lot of people, but
it might smell good to you. Whatever that smell is.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Sean McMahon, I like mister McMahon.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
I shared my story of the pumpkin or jack O'Lantern
burnt from the inside with the candle, which made me
flash back the other day when I was taking it
off the porch, had a couple of them, and the
neighbor hollowed down the street that he liked that, and
he mentioned gas and he was like, I like the
smell of gas too. I was like, dude, don't be
huffing the lawn mower gas situation. That's a bad plan.

(50:29):
Off the air, you mentioned that you had an odd
smell that you can appreciate too, which made me very disturbed.

Speaker 11 (50:36):
Yeah, I feel like I'm gonna bump into some friends
or somebody like in a few months and they'd be like, Hey,
I heard you like this particular smell.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
You're weirdo. But the smell of skunk.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
The skunk not like something from like a dispensary or something,
but like actually one of those black and white, sorely
looking little furry creatures from the woodlands.

Speaker 8 (50:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (50:56):
No, like if it was if it sprayed me, that
might be a different story. Like if it was if
it was extremely potent, because I admittedly I've never smell
it up close, but just when it lingers in the air.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yes, I don't know what I just I just like
that smell. And here's another thing.

Speaker 11 (51:09):
I don't really get how people get cannabis and uh
skunk confused, because to me, they don't smell like is
it just me?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Or like am I am I crazy?

Speaker 5 (51:20):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Just walk through any parking lot these days and you'll
get with it, because I think wildlife is everywhere now
and then what he minds like, Nah, dude, that's weird.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
People are smoking out. I'm like, so, who knows? I
mean people liked it.

Speaker 11 (51:30):
I feel like they're so distinctive, Like I like, one
smells like it's been burned, and then the other just
smells like like that, like nature.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, like one smells more natural, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Like I don't know, I just mister McMahon is one
with nature, uh and not so much with the icky sticky.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
I totally get it.

Speaker 11 (51:48):
I'm gonna steal another one from a collar who called
it and he decided not to hang up, but he
said asphalt, And I think that's a great Oh you mean,
like freshly rolled asphalt that can driveway of what they're
doing on seventy five.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, Like yeah, black top.

Speaker 11 (52:00):
Is I think specifically because I remember every like almost
every year when I go to Coney Island as a kid,
like they would put down new black blacktop yep, And
that smell just always reminds me of going to Coney Island. Man,
So that that's another good smell that I like. That
is a little strange. That is a good one. And
the ceilant or the code on there too might be
for some people as well. Five point three seven four

(52:22):
nine seven eight hundred the big one. What strange or
unusual smell or scent do you like or love that?
Maybe others would be disturbed by your appreciation. Uh, it's
a chance to talk back on the iHeart radio app.
Click the microphone. Uh there and five one three, seven,
four nine, seven eight hundred, the big one, the other one.

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And I'll admit to this, and I I don't think
I hurt my brain too much on this. But as
a kid, when I would get off the school bus
or what I would take, I used to have to
take the city bus to go to like the doctor's
office as a latch key kid. And sometimes I just
take the bus downtown go to the library and so forth,
because I was a fine upstanding young citizen trying to
read newspapers before the internet on those big chopstick looking

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things that they would have there. But I would get
off the bus and I would get a with of
what I assume would be diesel, which and I always
thought it'd be cool to be a trucker, you know,
and that type of thing. But I don't think a
lot of them are actually whiffing the exhaust from their vehicles.
But there was something about it that I appreciated. And
I know I'm not the only one on that because

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there were a couple of kids who did that I
knew from the neighborhood as well. So what strange unusual
smell or scent do you like that? Others may be
troubled by five went three, seven, four nine, seven, eight
hundred the big one Carlton, or with sterling, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (53:44):
What do you like that?

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Other people go, I can't believe you dig the way
that smells, this is going to sound strange.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Diesel exalts same thing it me.

Speaker 10 (53:53):
It reminds me.

Speaker 9 (53:53):
Of my grandmother picking me up and taking me through
Dixie Terminal.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah, takes you back immediately.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
There are a lot of right that can immediately take
you back to that sense memory of being a kid
or whatever else to that moment.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Right, Yes, and that is.

Speaker 9 (54:10):
A string point people they make fun of me.

Speaker 10 (54:12):
How's diesel remind you of the grandmother?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
It's just Dickie Turmuld takes you right back there the
same Carlton. I appreciate you listening, being part of the
show man. You take care of yourself. That is an
odd thing that people can appreciate and sort of goes
along with that that the asphalt thing too. I think
is pretty maybe common for some Last night there was
a guy I was talking to and he mentioned this too.

(54:36):
He talked about going to like a lumber yard or
something in the smell of freshly cut wood, which I
absolutely do enjoy. And when I was getting the roof
done a couple of years ago and they had to
do some of the boards under as they were redoing
it a few years ago after Tornado, and the smell
of them cutting that is they were working, and that
I could get a whiff of on the inside because
it was some serious damage at the time, and I

(54:58):
even though it was a nightmare in that transitional period,
the smell of it was great. The other thing this
time of year that I love that I know some
people have a problem with it is the smell of
like a fireplace, a wood burning stove, or a backyard
kind of fire pit, or even burnt leaves, which is
just tremendous. The only problem with the fire pit or

(55:19):
what have you is the smoke was a kid what
always and continues. I don't know what it is some people.
It's like that that wherever I move around it, the
smoke follows. I don't need to be you know, engulfed
in the smoke. I just need to be near it
to get a good whiff because I like it a lot.
And Ross, it's Don with sterling on the big one.
What odd smell or scent do you appreciate that others

(55:41):
would be disturbed by?

Speaker 12 (55:44):
Well?

Speaker 13 (55:44):
Did it actually take me back to a Saturday night
in the seventies with my parents getting ready to go
out and go out with their friends and dancing and
all that kind of fun stuff. It's a very strong
scent of old.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Spice, old spices, okay, and bruite cologne.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
And what does that take you back to? Do you
still wear that or is it just you smell it
and you're like, oh, I'm in my happy place.

Speaker 13 (56:14):
My father, you know, he got old spice or brute
every year for Christmas and it was in the medicine
cabinet and the man must have showered in it on
his way out. But you know, I can remember late
Saturday night watching the heat all and and waiting for
my parents to go out for the evening.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
There you go, Don, that's great man. Thank you for
sharing that. I appreciate you being a part of the
show too. Take care of yourself. Five one three seven
four nine seven thousand, eight hundred The big one. This
from Elizabeth in Hyde Park. She says, the smell of
old books. You mentioned the library, She goes old books
like half priced books or antique stores. What she added too, So, yeah, yeah,

(56:56):
there is a smell and antique store. Uh that is
there sometimes. I don't know if it's a musty smell.
Is this just smells old, which I guess to some
might be appealing depending on how you look at it.
Five point three seven four nine, seven thousand, eight hundred
The big one. What smells good to you that others
would not necessarily appreciate? Oh, this is tremendous. Ken works

(57:17):
at a bank, he says, he won't say which one,
but fresh money, I'll agree with that.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I like the smell of cash too. Fresh cash the
smell that I don't like, though, And we don't have
as much of it because the penny is in short
supply and it's been taken away and no more pennies
to be minted these days, and so the rounding up
and rounding down will be an issue. But this smell
of change, when I used to handle a lot of
change when I worked at the put putt golf and
people would come in and they'd get tokens or whatever.

(57:44):
There is a stink with coins in hands or otherwise.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
That is uh. I am not a fan.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I'm sure somebody likes it someplace, but it just smells nasty,
dirty and not so good. Chris, that's your turn with
Sterling in seven hundred l W.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
What do you know, hey, Sterling?

Speaker 10 (58:03):
How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (58:03):
I'm all right, brother, how about you?

Speaker 3 (58:05):
I'll do it well.

Speaker 7 (58:06):
Hey.

Speaker 8 (58:07):
During the COVID era, we used to have to wipe
our office down with bleach products.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Every day before we open.

Speaker 8 (58:15):
Oh yeah, and half of the staff hated it, half
loved it, and I was one who loved it. I
loved coming into work because everything smells so good and
clean bleach.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I dig that too.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
That reminds me of my grandma's house or going to
my buddy Tony's house. His grandmother's house. She always, I mean,
she was clean. It seemed like twenty four to seven.
She was always cleaning and always had that spick and
span like a chlorox smell too. And I dug it
big time. I'm with you, Chris, I appreciate the call. Yeah,
I'm sorry, go ahead, all right, they're gonna go. Sorry,
didn't mean to cut you off a quick there. Sorry.

(58:50):
Sometimes I hang up prematurely there. I just said something
and he was like, oh right, I gotta go. Uh
So anytime called back Indiana, Mike, A good day for
your Hoosiers if you're a fan. They gotta win, as
did Ohio State one and two respectively in college football,
and a Bearcat bye week along with the Who Day
as well. What do you have, Mike, As far as
the smells that may be troubling to others that.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
You like, well, I don't know if it'd be troubling.

Speaker 13 (59:14):
Dollars by the Spring is one of the.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Best spells there ever. Is alfalfa fresh cut alf alfa.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Hey, oh you know I like that too. Yeah, for
sure I do. That's very good, Mike. I appreciate it. Yeah,
alfalfa is pretty strong. And what is the smell. It's
not lavender, somebody told me last time I mentioned this.
Driving up seventy five between here in Cincinnati and going
towards Dayton, I think it's I'm guessing it's on the

(59:42):
east side primarily of the interstate. If you're going north Hamilton, Middletown, area.
There's a lot of something that grows up there, and
I don't know if they planted it or if it's
indigenous to our part of the world or what. And
I've smelled it in southern California too, and whatever it is,
it just reminds me of home. Uh, and uh, it's

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just it's just awesome. Five point three seven four nine
seven eight hundred. The Big One smells that are good
to you and maybe unusual or strange or maybe even
disliked by others. Westchester, Bob, your was sterling on the
Big One.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
What do you have, hey, Sterling?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
How you doing? I'm well, you are right good, good.
Now this is very strange.

Speaker 14 (01:00:22):
My my father was a lab technician at four micah,
oh wow, and he would come home, Yeah, he would
come home and uh, of course he worked around a
lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Chemicals, solving every stuff. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:00:36):
But one of the chemicals he worked around was from aldehyde.
And anytime I'd smell that smell. If I'm around some
chemicals or something like that and I smell from aldehyde,
it reminds me of my dad coming home from work
because he still had that smell, that smell on it
because it was pretty strong. But it all raised and
I lost my dad at an early age and I

(01:00:57):
was twenty four and he.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Was just fifty five.

Speaker 14 (01:00:59):
But it always reminds me of my dad and how
much I'm missing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
So that's actually, I mean, aside from the missing him though,
that's a nice sort of feeling obviously that it brings
back that sense memory. That's tremendous. Thank you for sharing that, Bob.
That's got to be kind of hard to bring up
to the public, so I appreciate it big time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Well, it's it's perfect to me.

Speaker 14 (01:01:16):
Fine, it's just one of those things that you know
you'll never forget.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
There you go, Thank you, man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I appreciate you being a part of the show and
listening to Bill Aron and others. Coming up a couple
two lines open five, one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand,
eight hundred, the big one. As our Willie would say,
his lines become available. It's your chance to get interactive
right now. Smell strange, unusual, maybe even stinky to others
that you go. I like it a lot, which, by
the way, when I just did that, I got a
whiff of nastiness too close to this microphone. That is

(01:01:44):
not a good smell. It's a Saturday Sterling five point three,
seven four nine, seven thousand, eight hundred the Big one
seven hundred WLW orders Saturday afternoon in the tri sick weather.
It's perfect tomorrow. No, I I hate to even say
it's a four out of work. Jim Scott loved to snow.
I just imagine over there wondering in the Anne and
looking to do some snowboarding or skiing or something like that.

(01:02:07):
How you doing at Sterling? Hanging out Saturday afternoon, seven
hundred WLW coming up after the five o'clock or fort
Matt Reese has news Mike Dwallspace dot Com. I'm going
to talk about the International Space Station and debris hit
issues affecting the Chinese coming in their own thing as
well coming and going, and the dangers of that on
the other side of the news.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
So hang out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
In the meantime, we were talking about odd or unusual
strange smells. Some might be offended by or disturbed by
the jew or others, you know, may enjoy. Let's rip
through some calls here. All we can about if anybody
goes about forty seconds forty five seconds, we can get
everyone I think who's on hold right now without you
hating me for taking too much time. Diana's first and Bradley, Bill, Ron,

(01:02:50):
Kenny Frank coming up. Diana, what do you have with
Sterling on the big one?

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Hi, Sterling.

Speaker 15 (01:02:56):
When I was a child, from nineteen forty eight nineteen
fifty five, we lived with my dad's great aunt in Lawrenceburg, Indiana. Yes,
and her house had been built I'm thinking early twenties
and it had a particular odor to it, shall we say?

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:03:20):
Well, the years later I was working for a company
in Cheviot and we had to move part of our
staff to a house on Glenmore Avenue. And I walked
into that house and it was like being in Aunt
Lu's house.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Again, just a flashback, that sense memory took you there
and it was what just the old wood that was
associated with the house.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
And the build. Yes, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
That's excellent, Dana, Thank you, I appreciate it. I hate
to be brief, but I got to bounce and try
to get everybody here to Yellow Springs. There's a lot
of good smells up there. Youngsterairy part of it and
Dave Chappelle roaming around doing his thing. Bradley, what do
you know.

Speaker 12 (01:03:58):
Hey, I got a lot for you. Back in the
early eighties, me and my little brother had a Kawasaki
seventy five with the chubby tire, and we had a
couple of mountain bikes and somebody came in the garage
and stole them. Oh no, and we saw the tracks
going out through the snow and we never did find

(01:04:20):
them again. And a year or two later, my dad
had been laid off from work and we weren't expected
a lot for Christmas, and so we opened a couple
of presents and the you know, my mom always right
up the tree, of course, before we could come out
and do all that. Well, I see you in the
in the kitchen area, and there's a giant red bow

(01:04:41):
kind of sticking out, and I walk in there and
there's the most bad you know what, RM eighty Suzuki
sitting in our kitchen with the kitchen table moved. And
I took that thing without even thinking, put boots on,
got it start, been in the snow, and rode it

(01:05:02):
about a mile away before it ran out of gas
because my dad and his buddy had been riding it
the night before. But the smell of that two cycle gas,
if I ever smell it again. It just reminds me
of the first time I pushed that bike back, grin
in the whole way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
That's treous made me grin just hearing a Bradley thank you,
but I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Uh Bill, what do you have?

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
Hey, thank you, thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
I love the first thing.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
I love to be real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
I love the fless cut blass smell.

Speaker 12 (01:05:34):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:05:34):
Number two is I love my own body smell.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
I mean, what hold.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Your natural smell? You're like, man, I smell good. I
love me so much.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
No, hey, now, let me all right, do you what
is it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
What is it about your smell? Come on?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Well, okay, okay.

Speaker 10 (01:06:00):
People out there.

Speaker 12 (01:06:01):
That those they're familiar with this, they do the same
things you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Only babe baby wants the moth.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Oh my god.

Speaker 12 (01:06:09):
And your body smell. You don't stink.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
You don't after an No, after a month, I think
there is a funk about you. I think there is
some stinking going on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
No, No, not after not after a month.

Speaker 7 (01:06:22):
No, because if you're clean, your clothes are clean, you're clean,
and you could put your hand up under your.

Speaker 12 (01:06:30):
Arms and take it out, put up on your nose
and it smells good, so that means you're not stinking.

Speaker 7 (01:06:38):
With that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Was it, Molly Shannon right on SNL with the Hooliday. Yeah,
let's just leave it there and the smell of the
stinky armpit after a month and not bathing news straight away.
This has nothing to do with Matt Reeve. He smells
great and he's got news now. Home of the Bengals,
Home of the Bearcats, Home of the Musketeers, and the
Reds A couple of bye weeks this weekend too, by
the way, seven hundred w W, Cincinnati, simly in allowed together. Yeah,

(01:07:02):
beautiful Saturday afternoon the tri State, seven hundred WLW. I
love talking space stuff the way up there. You know,
when you think about the history of well this part
of the world and Right Brothers activities, that bike shop
and Dayton on the west side Third Street there, when
you think about ge and all the technology between here

(01:07:23):
and there in development, it has continued when it comes
to jet propulsion and all kinds of other things to
get to space and air travel, which let's really not
talk about the issue right now which logistics delays and
package and parcel transport. After the grounding of the MD
eleven type aircraft after the ups crafts in Louisville. You know,
they killed like fourteen people, still nine people missing. The

(01:07:46):
dangers up above Terra Firma in space. In orbit, it
can be quite severe, aside from the cold and the
darkness and everything else that goes with that in the
lack of air. Generally speaking, Mike D wall knows a
thing or two about all that. He's an Ohio guy
out West space dot com. Welcome back to seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
How you doing doing, good man?

Speaker 12 (01:08:08):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
I'm doing fine.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
You know, for years and I appreciate you being so
generous with your time. For years we have talked and
I have said that the future, just like star Wars
or whatever else, collecting space junk and trash is the future.
We need to be like Runky in space and get paid.
And I came across the story the other day and
I'm like, I haven't talked to Mike in too long,

(01:08:30):
and I see that apparently space junk or debris and
impact issues for China's I'm gonna probably butcher the name
shen Zu twenty is an issue that has affected them
getting where they want to go, let alone, something that
the International Space Station has to navigate regularly, So explain
what happened to them with the space debris and how

(01:08:52):
bad of a problem this is.

Speaker 9 (01:08:54):
Yeah, so about four or five days ago there, yeah,
the three snouts of the Shenzi twenty mission, who are
who have been up on h on, yeah, on on,
like China's Tiangog space station in North orbit for about
six months. They were supposed to come down, like four
or five days ago, come back to Earth. But in
the kind of lead up to their departure, they the

(01:09:15):
sort of mission team noticed there was like this hole
in their in their spacecraft, which was apparently caused by
some yeah, some kind of like debris hit. Whether it
was like a little micromedia or a piece of space junk,
I don't think we know yet. You know, China is
not great about keeping us up to day and being
super transparent, but there was something hit there. Yeah, yeah, So,
so something hits their spacecraft and they're there's kind of

(01:09:38):
stuck up there right now while the while trying to
trying to figure out what to do if it's a
serious issue, if the if they shouldn't try to come
home in that spacecraft, they should try to launch another
one up empty to be their kind of rescue ship.
It's all sort of like that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
Those Yeah, those.

Speaker 9 (01:09:51):
Decisions are are being made right now, and yeah, it's
kind of it. It's just like you said. You know,
we've been talking about the space Garbageman business idea for
a while, and it's it's becoming in more and more
compelling case. Every day is more stuff gets up there,
and you have more close calls and more space strike
incidents like this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Spacelight editor for space dot Com mikey Wall was stirling
on the big one. Now, how regularly is it a concern?
Because occasionally you'll see like a little blip of an
adjustment in them trying to maybe move orbit for the
International Space Station. I probably have butchered what it really is,
but something along those lines, or they limit maybe when
they're trying to get where they're trying to go with

(01:10:29):
craft from Earth up there, which I know there's a
big blue origin like big rocket that's coming, the Glen Rocket.
I think it's tomorrow or Monday, I can't remember. But
they're regularly trying to avoid hits with stuff that's out
there that it's not just space stuff from space, but
our like trash or stuff that's come off of craft.

Speaker 9 (01:10:48):
Yes, yeah, yeah, So it's pretty common for space stations
and lowerth orbit to have to do these like collision
avoidance maneuvers. You know, like it happened, that's happened on
this space station dozens of times in the last quarter
century or so. You know, they there there are these
really good kind of radars down on Earth that can
track smallish pieces of space debris going around Earth. So

(01:11:09):
anytime you see one that might be on a collision
course with the ISS, you know that that gets radioed
up to NASA the machine control and the order like
let's just move the ISS up like two kilometers are
down two kilometers, so we're out of range of that piece.
And but and that's that's all well and good. But
what's really scary and what this what the Chande twenty
thing kind of highlights is there are lot of there's
a lot of stuff that you can't track from the

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ground that's too small. You know, like with what we're
able to do now, with the technology that we have,
we can find stuff that's only as small as about
four inches wide. It's like the size of a softball.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Or something that's pretty good when you think about how
far it is. I can't tell what hit my roof
if it's a squirrel or raccoon, or it's something from
high above where I might get a meteorite and paid
like big time if it hits the house.

Speaker 9 (01:11:52):
Yeah, no, it is very impressive. And I'm always astounded
with how how smart these these like space what engineers
are and how they're able to do these things like
just put exactly enough fuel edd and on their rockets
and burn the engines toward the exact right time to
get the exact right orbit, you know, to the kilometer.
It's all really amazing, but there are limits to how
amazing it can be. There's and these really small pieces. Yeah,

(01:12:16):
like presumably what hits Senze twenty. Even if something's like
two inches wide or even one inch wide, you know,
too small to be tracked in the ground, it can
still do a lot of damage in ourth orbit because
it's traveled at like seventeen thousand miles per hour. So
even tiny things have a ton of potential energy when
they're moving that fast. So it is like a legitimate
worry and what really worries kind of space flight engineers

(01:12:36):
and like mission planners and space agencies are if we
have a collision between like an old piece of space drunk,
like a discarded rocket body or a dead satellite, say
that hits another dead satellite or a piece of space
runk hits that and it gets destroyed, right, and then
you have like this new debrie cloud of like ten
thousand new pieces of debris just going everywhere. That's what

(01:12:56):
they're really worried about. And then like those pieces, some
of which you too small to track, might start hitting
other satellites and you get new debris clouds, and it's
this kind of it's the sphered kind of like cascade
of atrocity in lower thorbit called the it's called like
the Kessler syndrome after a NASA scientist who first kind
of proposed it decades ago. And it's possible if we

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let it get to that point, you know, it could
really make it hard to launch satellite sir at orbit,
to have accidats up there, to fly through Earth orbit
to get to Mars. I mean, we're there yet, but
that's like the dune space scenario that people worry about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
That's wild.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Spaceflight and Tech Channel editor from space dot Com, Mike
d wall was Sterling on seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
So it's not to that point yet. How bad is it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Because the only thing I can compare it to and
this is just you know, me short bus rider Sterling
trying to process this. Don't be offended. So is I
think about it? I think of the garbage patch that's
in like our seas, Like I know, there's the specific
or whatever else they tried to sort of last So
some of that garbage patch there, plastics and all this

(01:13:59):
other up in the water and it's massive, like I
mean like huge, like bigger than some countries. Yeah, which
is crazy? Is it to that extent?

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
In space?

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Could we harness something to maybe gather that all together
there in some way?

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Is it an AI solution or is this just hope
that you don't get punched by you know, if like
a pain it's seventeen thousand miles an hour if you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
A space walk.

Speaker 9 (01:14:25):
Yeah, So it's it's not to that point with the Yeah,
with the giant like Pacific Ocean garbage patch. You know,
in space, everything is much more spread out because you know,
like herth orbit's pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Big, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:14:36):
So yeah, but we yeah, so we aren't there yet
where we could just go up and bring all that
stuff down with like a net. You know, that's that's
too much space between everything. But what what companies and
space agencies are looking at doing is you know, targeting
the most dangerous big pieces, like the things and the
orbits that have the like have the greatest potential to

(01:14:58):
be hit and create one of those like the bri cascades. No,
let's just target like the top hundred of those. You know,
all these big, these big rocket bodies that just just
help launch like a mission and now are still up
there circling Earth and they're dead, but they still have
some fuel and that they're just giant, you know, like
the size of the bus. They get hit, they'll make
a huge debris cloud. So let's like try to bring
down those and that'll like reduce the risk. And as

(01:15:20):
a technology gets better, and I mean maybe if there's
a business case of space agencies won't pay you to
do some of this stuff, maybe go after the smaller
stuff and you just sort of just work at it
bit by bit to kind of take away the sort
of greatest risk. But there's just always going to be
a risk because there's so much stuff up there, and
there's more going up all the time.

Speaker 12 (01:15:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
There there are almost nine.

Speaker 9 (01:15:38):
Thousand operational Starling satellites up there right now, and there's
more launching, like just two or three times a week
at this point. So it's just it's it's a it's
a lot of stuff going up now, what.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Is this ceiling on low Earth orbit satellite disposition or
or you know launching in places there? Because I realized
that stuff over time and changes, there's a limited lifespan.
But if we're just continually putting them up there, and
it's not just SpaceX, it's not just the US or
our interest you know, in the international community, but I

(01:16:10):
mean China and elsewhere, we may not even know everything
that's up there, or do we, because I mean, there
are no rules. It's not like I can just go
out on Interstate seventy one outside from where I work
here and just start throwing stuff onto the interstate.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
It's a bad idea, it's a bad plan.

Speaker 9 (01:16:23):
Yeah, Well that it makes the problems so difficult. It
is because every country is responsible for their own spacecraft, right,
but China has no obligation to coordinate with us. We
have no obligation to coordinate with China and so forth.
You know, so each country tends to do what it
wants to do, and some have different priorities. No, China
is going is pretty hell bent on trying to become
dedominant space power and launching lots and lots of stuff.

(01:16:45):
And I mean, like, I don't know what the solution is.
I mean, it like depends on as far as the
question goes like how much is too much, It like
depends on the capabilities of the satellites that are going up,
you know. I mean I mentioned Starlik earlier, but I
think those are pretty low risk because they're pretty smart.
They can do automatic like debris avoidance maneuver's collision avoidance
maneuvers that they can do that on their own, and

(01:17:06):
they're kind of programmed to come down to Earth after
five years. They like they're intentionally diorbited at the end
of their life. So that's like that's pretty responsible space
traffic management, right, and that's what you want, But you
can't police that for other countries. Now, we don't know
if China is going to enforce those same sorts of
standards too, or if Russia is, or if another space
power in DASA that wants to get up there and

(01:17:27):
get going. And so it's that that's the difficult part
is it's not just the sheer number of things that's
up there, it's their capabilities and how responsible their operators
are and so on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Is there there's no group together in this thing they
can agree on those this, I mean because it is
so much of a military thing. Talking to Mikey wall
by the way space dot com about stuff in space
and security issues and everything we know about space force.
They're doing their thing. But even though space is vast
and huge, we are really just barely touching. I mean,

(01:17:59):
we don't even know everything about our oceans, let alone space. Yeah,
but I mean, how much togetherness is there in planning this?
And could i AI be a help in solution to
some of this problem aside from the fact that I
guess we have to have an enemy or something over time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
It's just the nature of the human condition.

Speaker 9 (01:18:19):
Yeah, there's not a lot of togetherness. I mean, there
was one nice milestone just like a month or so ago,
actually China announced that for the first time they had
alerted NASA that they had spotted like a potential collision
with one of their satellites in the NASA satellite and
they reached out to NASA and said, like, don't worry
about it, we will move our spacecraft out of the way.
And like NASA officials said, that's the first time they've

(01:18:41):
ever done that, Like we've actually done that with them,
like kind of multiple times and told them we see
this possible collision, We're going to move our satellite. You
just keep heres where it is. So there is apparently
some thawing of that, but you know, there is a
big library between China and the US and space and like,
actually NASA is forbidden from actively cooperating with China on
most based missions. They have been since like twenty eleven

(01:19:02):
by a congressional amendment, like unless they get express written
consent from Congress ahead of time. So there's a limit
to what we could do anyway, if we wanted to,
it would have to go through Congress and you have
to get approval because Congress has been and continues to
be worried about China trying to steal all of our
space ip, which is a legitimate concern, to be fair,
So it is it is one of those things. And
I'm kind of pessimistic about it in general, just because

(01:19:24):
as a species we've shown little inclamation to do anything
with a long term vision to halt things or to
make life better unless there's like pressing emergency to force
us to do it. So that's just like human nature
and like history kind of they suggest that we should
be pretty pessimistic about that, Like maybe we'll need a
debris strike and a debris class.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Oh, the phone.

Speaker 9 (01:19:48):
Into some kind of yeah, some kind of cooperation.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Yeah, it's an odd scenario.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
So this leads me to something else, because I mean
the idea of trash collection in space. Someone, let's be serious.
We want to get paid, but we also want to help.
I think that you can do both. That's my dream anyway,
do good things and make a living in that situation.
But because we do have enemies, I don't mean just
an up situation. But what about sabotage? Do we have
a history of any known sabotage circumstances or what could

(01:20:17):
be done to prevent sabotage situations? Because it seems like
to a great extent, it would take very little effort
to cause huge damage, which could affect weather capabilities as
far as forecasting and GPS and so many other things
as far as our warring capabilities and everything else for safety,
security of our nation, our interest for that matter, the

(01:20:38):
rest of the world.

Speaker 9 (01:20:40):
Yeah, that's something that is going on. If you talk
the Space Force official as you know, they don't talk
about anything in specifics obviously because they don't want adversarius
to learn our kind of methods about how we learn
about stuff like that. You know, there's been no attempt
as far as we know by Russia or China to
actively take out one of our satellites. That would be
very obvious if a missile just shot down like a USPI.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Satellite or something.

Speaker 9 (01:21:04):
But they do more subtle stuff. If you ask, Yeah,
if yous US military officials, they say that Russia and
China are actively trying to jam our like military retronois
and communication satellites. So we're taking we're taking defensive measures
against that, launching like more satellites with kind of kind
of better anti jamming features and stuff like that. You know,
our new GPS satellites that go up have all this

(01:21:26):
anti jamming software on them and stuff like that, And
that's a direct response to what military officials say is
a lot of anti satellite stuff that is going on
in orbit, and you know we're not Pollyanna's. I would
suspect we're doing stuff like that too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Hell yeah we should.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
I mean, you may not want to have bad things happen,
but the bottom line is, look at convention of war.
What is the first thing you do when you're going
to handle like going into a country or some type
of circumstance. You you know, go through infrastructure, whether it's
bridges and roads and water and electricity and communications, all
those things that I mentioned in So much of everything
about our lives right now is driven by what's going

(01:22:01):
on in space. So I mean it seems like a
natural Yeah, it.

Speaker 9 (01:22:05):
Seems like it would be a dereliction of duty if
we weren't doing some.

Speaker 7 (01:22:07):
Of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Absolutely well. I wanted to get into more, but this
has been great conversation. Thank you for bringing it. I
hope that you're doing well and that the family Wall
is all good and continue doing the good works that
you do with space dot Com.

Speaker 9 (01:22:19):
Yeah, sure thing, Thanks all the talking to chat.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Take care of yourself. He's Mike d Wall, space Flight Editor,
tech Guy space dot Com with Sterling on seven hundred
WLW that's just the band. I mean literally darkness and
we need the cover of night to bring the light
of the day. I know I'm a voice of reason
and master of the obvious. Saturday Sterling seven hundred WLW,
mister McMahon, keep me in line. Matt Reese with news

(01:22:41):
in about twenty minutes. Chick Ludwig after that, I've seen
him in the hallway. He walked by, he poked his
head into the window into a hallway. I was like, Yo, dude,
I know you've got next. And then Donna de up
after that, doing that relationship on a Saturday night show
kind of scenario. We were talking about odd smells that
other people may be offended by, don't like, or disturbed
by that you may enjoy. And some people still on

(01:23:03):
hold wanting to talk on that. We had a half
hour less to spend. We'll open it up to whatever
that includes this and the darkness issue. I love the
fact that the spring is coming, but what I do
at this point, I'm watching even before we fell back
in time, it's the minute by minute as the days

(01:23:24):
get shorter that it is depressing. Then we fall back
and it's really dark, really early. And when I left
Ohio and went to Nevada to live and work there
for a while. It got dark at like four point thirty,
which was really even more disturbing to me. But the
warm weather softened the pain of that particular issue, wouldn't
you think because all this talk, all this argument that

(01:23:45):
has gone on, and President Trump in the past said
he'd do it, They've tried and changed the issue with
daylight savings time and it did not go well in
the past. It's a safety and security issue for pedestrians
and kids trying to walk to and from school, hell
for that matter. The news in the last two weeks
how many and I'm trying to think of how weirdly
I saw it online printed in some news story. It

(01:24:08):
was a vehicle pedestrian strike is what they called it.
They didn't call it hit by a car, which they
had to use different language. And those numbers go up
with the darkness early in the evening as well as
in the morning, and they try to adjust it for that.
Wouldn't it be nice if AI could somehow solve the problem.
But I think it might be something about the whole

(01:24:30):
rotation of the Earth around the sun and everything else
that goes with it, which is beyond my pay grade
five one, three, seven, four nine seven, eight hundred, the
big one. Before we get to Frank holding on smells,
I want to mention something else. The lovely, the talented
Sarah Elisha here with kid Chris over a WEBN in
the morning. And it got me thinking about collectibles and

(01:24:53):
why you may ask because I have a friend of
mine and she was all geeked up and excited about
going to a very big chain coffee store who's not
paying to have their mention here. But I'm gonna They
have a bear resta, so you kind of know what
I'm talking about. Every year they have some type of thing.

(01:25:14):
Now it's a plastic bear, it's a bear with a
hat on that it's their brand, right Starbucks. And then
I see sarah e lease message and she had what
was it look like a Bucky's cup that I don't
know which came first. Somebody stole the idea from somebody else,
but who cares? It got me thinking about collectible items.

(01:25:35):
I don't know how many I have to count WEBN
fireworks shirts in sweatshirts from the Western and Southern WBN
fireworks that I have acquired over the years, if not
the winter year or the summer shirts.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
I think back.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
I had a guy who ran into the other day
who was wearing an old Channel Z T shirt which
was used to be at one O seven to one
before it was flipped to kiss. I used to work
a Channel Z and then I was a kiss and here, etc.
You don't need to know my resume or CV as
the Europeans like to call it at this point. And
then I ran into somebody the other day. You also had,

(01:26:12):
and I'd never seen this, a seven hundred WLW key
chain and they also on the same ring. They were
excited because it was weird because they recognized my voice,
which still creeps me out in a weird way even
though the majority of my life I've been on the radio.
At some point in time. They also had a Channel
Z keychain from back in the day. So it got
me thinking, whether it's the bear resta, whether it's the

(01:26:33):
Bucky Bear or whatever. The Bucky, I guess, is like
a beaver. I don't know if he had big teeth.
I don't know. People go crazy for the BUCkies or
like the WEBN fireworks T shirts or whatever else. What
a collectible do you have? Or that you go on
a mad rush that is a limited quantity that gives
you the sense of urgency to get your hands on it,

(01:26:55):
either annually, seasonally, whatever else it is. I'm just curious
because it's one of those things. I always look forward
to what those brilliant minds down the hall with the
brute force cybernetics at WBN when they come up with
the Western Southern WBN fireworks shirts, and then the collection
of those is. I look through the closet in the
T shirts that more than one X of mine has

(01:27:16):
said you need to get rid of all your T shirts.
I still have the shirts. The women maybe not so much.
In my life five one, three, seven, four, nine, eight hundred,
the big one that was not the cause of the breakup.
It was some other dumb stuff. I did talk back
the iHeartRadio app by clicking on the microphone. You can
leave a message there or on x or Twitter at
Stirling Radio. What collectibles are you in search of that

(01:27:39):
you have? I even have a subway shop cup refillable
in the cabinet at the house, A couple three or
four actually that I had accumulated because you know the
hey for an extra dollar, get the cup, and I'm like, sure,
I'll get the cup. And I know a buddy of
mine he had all these Happy Meal collectibles, and now

(01:27:59):
his kid has all these Happy Meal collectibles. It's a
multi generational collectible circumstance, which a lot of people do.
Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, eight hundred,
big one. Let's have a little fun before chick gets
in Here on a Saturday Night with Sterling on seven
hundred WLW. Frank, you have been holding since about July
of nineteen seventy six, and I appreciate your patience. I

(01:28:22):
hope the show's been good and compelling. On hold, what
do you have tonight?

Speaker 10 (01:28:25):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
I appreciate you being a part of the show.

Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
Okay, Sterling, I love listening to you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Thanks.

Speaker 7 (01:28:31):
I have like two or three real quick smells. One
of them is most of the women in the sixties,
seventies and eighties will recognize this smell. But I was
My mom was a legendary beautician in arl Ainger, Kentucky,
and she started out in my house in the basement.
She did hey her like five days a week, and

(01:28:54):
whenever she put a permanent on one of the ladies' hairs, there.
It just perminated the whole house. It came up through
the registers from the basement all through the house. And
and not going to say that I specifically enjoy it,
but whenever I do smell that smell occasionally, it takes

(01:29:16):
me right back to growing up in Erlinger.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
It brings you right back. It's weird how smells can
do that. I mean, I can smell, like, like certain
cookies that remind me of my grandmother, and she didn't
even make cookies a lot, but it reson. I can
vividly remember my Grandma Betty hooking me up with some
peanut butter cookies when I smell.

Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
Yeah, And it's kind of like a song. Whenever you're
growing up, you remember where you know where you were,
and whenever you heard that song. But another another smell
that I had my day was a professional truck driver
and all the all of the diesel trucks. Whenever it
gets to be like, you know, zero degrees, five degrees,

(01:29:54):
ten degrees below zero, the only way that you can
really start up a diesel and is the squirt ether
into the carburetor to get him to fire up. And
I remember it was about the size of a red
grape and he would, uh he would bring home one
from that he had left over from work, and he

(01:30:16):
would uh maybe poke a little pinhole in the red
grape and it was full of ether that he used
to squeeze into the carburetor or the truck to start
it up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
Off the books, medical procedures with the easter, hope, just
engine work. I got you, I got you want to make.

Speaker 7 (01:30:34):
Exactly just from just from a distance. Uh, it was,
it was interesting. And and then and the the last one.
Most everybody has a smell this smell and I really
don't mind it. But it's either a dead or alive skunk.
Oh that uh you know, I mean, it's it's it's
a sweet smell. And uh so as long as you

(01:30:55):
you know, you're you're not real close to it and
you have to stay there. But I'm really more enjoy
it whenever, you know, just a skunk is in my
yard or something. And most of the skunks they won't
squirt unless they're unless there's yeah, unless they're scared. So
but every once in a while I get a sniff
of that, and well that's kind of weird that I

(01:31:17):
don't mind it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
No, And I think a lot of other people like
the similar smell, but I think it's an icky, sticky
thing that's a dispensary issue.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Which is all together differently.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
I have a neighbor who just I guess it's probably
been springtime. I don't know if I'm not. I don't
know a whole lot about skunks, but I think they
may have had like a den near his yard or something,
but there were little ones, and in their lab got
close to one and they fought for days. I guess
they can every time I'd see me complain about the
skunk smell on the dog as a result of getting

(01:31:47):
a little too close to exactly what you're talking about. Frank,
I appreciate the call man, thank you for being a
part of the show. Uh and listening as well.

Speaker 7 (01:31:53):
Uh s.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
I don't know if it's Esther, and it must be
Esther uh. And Mason said that she likes to collect,
as I was mentioned, collectibles, the beer steins from October
for Cincinnati. Yeah, because they every year, there's like a
variety that you have a chance to sort of look
at as well. That's pretty cool, Montgomery Aiden. Then Rick
will wrap it up here before we're all done. And
chick gets in here. What do you have aiden your

(01:32:16):
with Sterling on seven hundred WLW Sterling.

Speaker 16 (01:32:19):
Massive fan of the show and I'm actually a good
friend of one of your coworkers, Sarah. Oh, you has
to work down at the University of Cincinnati.

Speaker 17 (01:32:27):
Yes, I'm actually huge into the sports.

Speaker 16 (01:32:29):
And Pokemon card market, which is at at all time
high as of late.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Really, why are the Pokemon so big right now?

Speaker 7 (01:32:39):
You know?

Speaker 16 (01:32:39):
I think it is, like you said, the limitation and
being twenty three and having listened to your show for
the past eighteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Oh, I don't say it like that, Like I'm like, oh,
you were like a kid, like a baby.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Oh my god.

Speaker 16 (01:32:51):
I've been listening since I was in kindergarten and I
appreciate it being on so much. But the Pokemon market,
the limitation and kids my age and between twenty and thirty,
I mean, that's what we grew up with. That's the
one thing we always wanted to have in real life
that you can never have. So let me ask you
the big quantities or driving the price.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
That's it now, Aiden, What about the POGs? I remember
those in the middle nineties were huge and we did
giveaways with the POGs and people would not. I think
that's the right term, and I still have a big
sleeve of them.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:33:23):
Absolutely, So what's interesting about the nineties, and for a
lot of people at home who would be interested, anything
in the nineties was printed to all. Heck, there is
so much stuff from the nineties, and the amount that
they made was as much as people wanted. So a
lot of the stuff from the nineties is and worth
a whole bunch.

Speaker 16 (01:33:43):
When you're looking at sports cards, especially during the nineties,
the only one you really wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
A Kobe Rookie.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
There you go, all right, Aiden, thank you appreciate the
kind words, being a part of the show and being
a listener too. I appreciate it. Man, thank you. It's tremendous.
To Dallas and Rick on seven hundred w W, it's
been a how are you, sir?

Speaker 10 (01:34:01):
Yeah, you know, I'm pretty good. I love any historic
pictures of Cincinnati, specifically like the old school buildings and stuff,
and someone the Polo, I've been looking for him. You
can't find You cannot find any construction photographs of any
of those old buildings from eighteen hunters, which really helped
me scratching my.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Head you know where you should look.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
And I don't know for sure, but cam Miller, who's brilliant,
and he's a great follow on X or any social stuff,
and he's made film and everything else he does in
great photography, and he has come up with I don't
know where I only gets this stuff. I should have
him on the show if you'd take my call. A
ton of old Cincinnati, downtown, Newport, Covington, old school stuff

(01:34:42):
and changes in and around the tri state. He might
be the guy who would have access to or direct
you in the right way. So what the check with him?

Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:34:51):
And another point that this is way a way off
the topic. You know, I'm always when I was there
since study, I used to always hang out, hang around
down there at that museum center, that library that's underneath
the rotunda. You've been in that library.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
It's been a minute, but yes, very interesting stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:35:09):
They know me, I know Anne, and if you know Ann,
I know Anne and those other ladies. Well, I was
in there one day. I met this gentleman. He was
the old gentleman. He was writing a book on historical
stuff like the sister name firing apartment. Yes, and this
guy his brother, his brother He says his brother was
the sister Fire Marshal of the State of Ohio. Wow, okay,

(01:35:31):
and yeah and and uh I reckon. He had a
very official sounding voice, this old gentleman, he said, I
think he was like it's probably in the seventies. He
was the old seventies, this gentleman told you know, it
was a very official side of voice. And you know,
you know what he did. He was the communicator on

(01:35:53):
the fire department. He used to work at the communications So.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Yeah, you got to get that out there. I hate
to cut you off, but I'm against the all time.
I can't be late for Hooda today talking Hooda their
bye week. Same as football, Bearcats, chick luck. He's coming up,
Donna d after that to get you through your Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Thank you, mister McMahon.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
Great calls, good guest, Adam Door, Tommy g talking FC Cincinnati,
beating the crew hopefully this night, moving ahead, ML's Cup,
Kurt Ryber, Mike d Wall and you podcast up sooner
than later. Sterling talking to you soon too as well.
Here home of the Bengals, the Bearcats, the Musketeers, and
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