October 23, 2024 • 9 mins
In this special episode of the BYC Podcast, Dylan Cleaver phones into share his thoughts on one of the greatest weekend’s in New Zealand cricket history!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okiday there live sort of from the export Big Ann
Studios and you're sort of listening to the BYC. I'll
explain shortly, and what an extraordinary week it's been for
New Zealand cricket. If I'm being honest, I would never
have predicted those two results in a million years. The
cricket world has flipped on its axis. So convinced was
(00:28):
I that the Black Caps were going to be utterly
humiliated and the White Ferns were not going to even
cause a blip at the World Cup. I would have
bet my house on it. Fortunately I didn't, or I
might have woken up today in a tin Tinranui. It
truly boggles the mind and reminds us all of the beautiful,
unpredictable nature of sport. So let's get to it, but
(00:52):
it with a little bit of a twist, as our
correspondents are currently scattered around the world. But I believe
we have a bit of check from our one and
only Dylan Kleaver.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, I get avabyc is did you hear the one
about the cricket correspondent who mistagably the greatest twelve hours
in the history of the sport in this country? By
finding himself up the Mekong Delta. Yeah, it's still in
cleaver here. And as the Black Caps and White fans
carried out their sensational results in Dubai and Bengalaru, I
was living in my own version, very tame version of
(01:25):
that of apocalypse now in a gunboat up the Mekong River.
It's unlikely that the cricinfo dot com live storing has
ever been refreshed as often from the Greatest Saigon area
as it was in those twenty four hours where I
was trying to catch, desperately trying to catch the results
from Bengalaru and Dubai. Have we now returned to the
(01:49):
land of along white cloud. I'm still working my way
through the highlights packages and we'll watch the full final
of the World T twenty. But I do have some
top of the head thoughts, so I'd like to share
before a return to the show properly following the second
test in Pune, first from BEng Laru. Look, I'm not
(02:12):
telling you anything you don't know here. Barachin Ravendra has
the tools to be a multi format superstar. Some of
his shot making and difficult conditions is breathtaking. That guy's
ceiling would appear to be limitless. And I know it's
very early and it's test career to be talking like that,
but the guy just has something special and watching him
(02:34):
go about his work has become one of the great
cricket watching pleasures. Now, I thought New Zealand even in
even in spinning conditions, although you know there wasn't so
much spinning conditions in Benglaru all. Obviously it wasn't particularly
on that first morning, but I just think they look
a better balanced team with a three man seam attack.
(02:56):
All were very good, even Jim Sounder, who again just
couldn't get that kind of clutch of wickets that he
said desperately needs to convince people that he belongs there
and who was actually there's facing a controversial selection beforehand,
and I'm sure if Ben Sears hadn't been injured that
many of us would have been calling for him to
play rather than Sali. But I thought Saudi was very good,
(03:17):
whereas Matt Henry and Willow Rock just had moments of
brilliance in as I said, admdtly helpful conditions. But I
just think the whole thing is held better together, is
more glue to that attack. When they do have the
three seamers, Pune will almost certainly offer a totally different
surface that I mean ready reports, so that it looks
(03:39):
like a very bare black soil wicket that's going to
spin from day one. So there must be a temptation,
I guess, to bring a Santana back into the fold,
but I'm not sure i'd change anything at all. I'd
be very tempted to run out that same bowling attack.
Another thought that I had, And look, I don't think
(04:00):
it's been mentioned many places, and perhaps my cd CAN
connection has been a lot for this a little bit more.
But I thought it was a quite important job that
was done by will Young, who was under immense pressure
to provide just a semblance of the ballast that came.
Williamson gives it. Three came. Williams is not going to
be there again in poone, and I guess it's probably
(04:20):
looking more and more unlike as each day passes, and
you'll get to India at all for the Tests, with
the third and final one to be played at wan
K Stadium, so Will Young will get at least one
more run at number three. The forty Old Night Out
and turned what could have been a treacherous chase into
a formality. So well done there, and because I guess
(04:45):
it's cricket and things just changed so quickly. We now
find that Given Conway is no longer on the run
scoring hot seat, but Tom Latham certainly still is. You
know again probably difficult conditions to throw too much heat
his way out. He desperately needs the score and just quietly.
(05:08):
I don't think General Richell would say no to one
either at the moment, but anyway, it was just, you know,
it's an amazing result to win a Test in India,
to do it in those circumstances, to running for losing
the toss and then running through them on the well.
It was the second morning, but the first day of
any action was amazing. And then to fight back after
(05:30):
India pretty much put themselves in a position where it
looked like they might steal it with the sensational third
innings betting effort was really good bad you know, if anything,
it paled to what happened and do by going into
this tournament, if you had told me that the White
Ferns would end up winning it, I would have thought
you were smoking something. A lot of things had to
(05:55):
go their way and they did. They didn't face Australia
or England to have been the twin nemeses in the knockouts,
which was obviously advantageous for them, but you know that
doesn't really matter. You play who you play. And in
the semi final, in the final, they were wonderful. And
(06:16):
I say that in a slightly compromised position, and that
I haven't seen any other than the highlights at this point.
But you know, they did what they needed to do.
They did it in the way that we've been asking
for a long time, which was from contributions from people
other than Susie Bates and Safety Divine and Amedia Occur.
(06:40):
I mean, Amenia cur had at a magnificent final with
bat and ball and in fact you're bowling probably made
a dominant figure of the tournament as a whole. But
they got contributions from players who have been straggling big time.
They got contributions from Rasmie Meyer, who is superb. They
got really telling contributions with the bat from Georgia Plymouth,
(07:03):
who has spent a long time being labeled the most
promising young woman's batter in the country. But it just
hasn't been able to put the runs on the board.
She said they did that at the right time. There
was a physic and energy clearly to the way they
went about their work. And I pondered in the bounce
with this sort of deep philosophical question, whether all the
(07:27):
pain of the past couple of years, and remember they
came into this tournament having lost ten, ten, twenty eyes
in a row, which is really hard to do for
a competitive team, is it worth it to get a
result like this? And it clearly is worth it to
get a result like this, But at the same time,
they cannot fall back into those patterns that enabled them
(07:50):
to or not enabled them, which sort of saw such
a string of poor results. This is going to be
a catalyst for so real dynamic White Ferns cricket over
the next couple of years. Sure, they've got a couple
of other veterans who are still very important, who ain't
getting any younger, But I see this as a real
(08:11):
opportunity for a springboard. Not only that, I think if
you look at the bigger picture, a women's cricket in
New Zealand has struggled to get the cream of the
best athletic talent, and I think this could be a
catalyst for New Zealand cricket to be more proactive in
that space, because if I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
At it as a as a parent of a young
female athlete who's got real talent, real eye hand coordination,
cricket offers some serious pathways, some serious career pathways.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Now with the Women's opl the Woman's one hundred, the
Women's Big Besh and as we just saw the White
Perns each creaming a couple of one hundred k from
winning this tournament, is a real opportunities there, and I
hope New Zealand Cricket grasps all.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Anyway, that's for me. I've been gone for long enough now. Yeah,
an amazing twelve hours to follow, even if it was
done in foreign conditions, and I look forward to talking
to you in a more formal setting next week thanks
to your patience. Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That's a wrap of this peculiar bee way. See, we're
very confident that next week all hands will be on
deck and we'll be able to delve further into what's
happening in the cricket world. Until then, thanks for taking
the time to listen. To us, and we'll see you
next week.
Okiday there live sort of from the export Big Ann
Studios and you're sort of listening to the BYC. I'll
explain shortly, and what an extraordinary week it's been for
New Zealand cricket. If I'm being honest, I would never
have predicted those two results in a million years. The
cricket world has flipped on its axis. So convinced was
(00:28):
I that the Black Caps were going to be utterly
humiliated and the White Ferns were not going to even
cause a blip at the World Cup. I would have
bet my house on it. Fortunately I didn't, or I
might have woken up today in a tin Tinranui. It
truly boggles the mind and reminds us all of the beautiful,
unpredictable nature of sport. So let's get to it, but
(00:52):
it with a little bit of a twist, as our
correspondents are currently scattered around the world. But I believe
we have a bit of check from our one and
only Dylan Kleaver.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, I get avabyc is did you hear the one
about the cricket correspondent who mistagably the greatest twelve hours
in the history of the sport in this country? By
finding himself up the Mekong Delta. Yeah, it's still in
cleaver here. And as the Black Caps and White fans
carried out their sensational results in Dubai and Bengalaru, I
was living in my own version, very tame version of
(01:25):
that of apocalypse now in a gunboat up the Mekong River.
It's unlikely that the cricinfo dot com live storing has
ever been refreshed as often from the Greatest Saigon area
as it was in those twenty four hours where I
was trying to catch, desperately trying to catch the results
from Bengalaru and Dubai. Have we now returned to the
(01:49):
land of along white cloud. I'm still working my way
through the highlights packages and we'll watch the full final
of the World T twenty. But I do have some
top of the head thoughts, so I'd like to share
before a return to the show properly following the second
test in Pune, first from BEng Laru. Look, I'm not
(02:12):
telling you anything you don't know here. Barachin Ravendra has
the tools to be a multi format superstar. Some of
his shot making and difficult conditions is breathtaking. That guy's
ceiling would appear to be limitless. And I know it's
very early and it's test career to be talking like that,
but the guy just has something special and watching him
(02:34):
go about his work has become one of the great
cricket watching pleasures. Now, I thought New Zealand even in
even in spinning conditions, although you know there wasn't so
much spinning conditions in Benglaru all. Obviously it wasn't particularly
on that first morning, but I just think they look
a better balanced team with a three man seam attack.
(02:56):
All were very good, even Jim Sounder, who again just
couldn't get that kind of clutch of wickets that he
said desperately needs to convince people that he belongs there
and who was actually there's facing a controversial selection beforehand,
and I'm sure if Ben Sears hadn't been injured that
many of us would have been calling for him to
play rather than Sali. But I thought Saudi was very good,
(03:17):
whereas Matt Henry and Willow Rock just had moments of
brilliance in as I said, admdtly helpful conditions. But I
just think the whole thing is held better together, is
more glue to that attack. When they do have the
three seamers, Pune will almost certainly offer a totally different
surface that I mean ready reports, so that it looks
(03:39):
like a very bare black soil wicket that's going to
spin from day one. So there must be a temptation,
I guess, to bring a Santana back into the fold,
but I'm not sure i'd change anything at all. I'd
be very tempted to run out that same bowling attack.
Another thought that I had, And look, I don't think
(04:00):
it's been mentioned many places, and perhaps my cd CAN
connection has been a lot for this a little bit more.
But I thought it was a quite important job that
was done by will Young, who was under immense pressure
to provide just a semblance of the ballast that came.
Williamson gives it. Three came. Williams is not going to
be there again in poone, and I guess it's probably
(04:20):
looking more and more unlike as each day passes, and
you'll get to India at all for the Tests, with
the third and final one to be played at wan
K Stadium, so Will Young will get at least one
more run at number three. The forty Old Night Out
and turned what could have been a treacherous chase into
a formality. So well done there, and because I guess
(04:45):
it's cricket and things just changed so quickly. We now
find that Given Conway is no longer on the run
scoring hot seat, but Tom Latham certainly still is. You
know again probably difficult conditions to throw too much heat
his way out. He desperately needs the score and just quietly.
(05:08):
I don't think General Richell would say no to one
either at the moment, but anyway, it was just, you know,
it's an amazing result to win a Test in India,
to do it in those circumstances, to running for losing
the toss and then running through them on the well.
It was the second morning, but the first day of
any action was amazing. And then to fight back after
(05:30):
India pretty much put themselves in a position where it
looked like they might steal it with the sensational third
innings betting effort was really good bad you know, if anything,
it paled to what happened and do by going into
this tournament, if you had told me that the White
Ferns would end up winning it, I would have thought
you were smoking something. A lot of things had to
(05:55):
go their way and they did. They didn't face Australia
or England to have been the twin nemeses in the knockouts,
which was obviously advantageous for them, but you know that
doesn't really matter. You play who you play. And in
the semi final, in the final, they were wonderful. And
(06:16):
I say that in a slightly compromised position, and that
I haven't seen any other than the highlights at this point.
But you know, they did what they needed to do.
They did it in the way that we've been asking
for a long time, which was from contributions from people
other than Susie Bates and Safety Divine and Amedia Occur.
(06:40):
I mean, Amenia cur had at a magnificent final with
bat and ball and in fact you're bowling probably made
a dominant figure of the tournament as a whole. But
they got contributions from players who have been straggling big time.
They got contributions from Rasmie Meyer, who is superb. They
got really telling contributions with the bat from Georgia Plymouth,
(07:03):
who has spent a long time being labeled the most
promising young woman's batter in the country. But it just
hasn't been able to put the runs on the board.
She said they did that at the right time. There
was a physic and energy clearly to the way they
went about their work. And I pondered in the bounce
with this sort of deep philosophical question, whether all the
(07:27):
pain of the past couple of years, and remember they
came into this tournament having lost ten, ten, twenty eyes
in a row, which is really hard to do for
a competitive team, is it worth it to get a
result like this? And it clearly is worth it to
get a result like this, But at the same time,
they cannot fall back into those patterns that enabled them
(07:50):
to or not enabled them, which sort of saw such
a string of poor results. This is going to be
a catalyst for so real dynamic White Ferns cricket over
the next couple of years. Sure, they've got a couple
of other veterans who are still very important, who ain't
getting any younger, But I see this as a real
(08:11):
opportunity for a springboard. Not only that, I think if
you look at the bigger picture, a women's cricket in
New Zealand has struggled to get the cream of the
best athletic talent, and I think this could be a
catalyst for New Zealand cricket to be more proactive in
that space, because if I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
At it as a as a parent of a young
female athlete who's got real talent, real eye hand coordination,
cricket offers some serious pathways, some serious career pathways.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Now with the Women's opl the Woman's one hundred, the
Women's Big Besh and as we just saw the White
Perns each creaming a couple of one hundred k from
winning this tournament, is a real opportunities there, and I
hope New Zealand Cricket grasps all.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Anyway, that's for me. I've been gone for long enough now. Yeah,
an amazing twelve hours to follow, even if it was
done in foreign conditions, and I look forward to talking
to you in a more formal setting next week thanks
to your patience. Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That's a wrap of this peculiar bee way. See, we're
very confident that next week all hands will be on
deck and we'll be able to delve further into what's
happening in the cricket world. Until then, thanks for taking
the time to listen. To us, and we'll see you
next week.
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