August 9, 2023 • 43 mins
It's "Back-to-School" season, and we wanted to get into stories about our school life. From elementary school to college life, to getting that first new fit ready for the first day.
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This could give me for our podcastWhat Up I'm Schizo? That is John
Magic And we are back back toschool season, and this is the time
of the year where you start seeingon Instagram the parents posting whatever grade their
kids are at, and the picturesusually them either holding a sign or they're
out the front door. First dayof first grade, second grade, third
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grade, whatever it is. We'rein back to school season. Yeah,
so I think with this, withthis time of the year, we sort
of wanted to talk about our schoolingexperience, if you will. Yeah,
I mean, even if we rememberyou were asking me if I had any
like back to school memories, Idon't know if it was ever a thing
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for me. The only thing Ido remember about back to school is you
had you had to have like oneor two fits ready. Yeah. But
even if I go back before thatelementary school, I mean, were you
like that in elementary school where youwere you got your clothes ready? I
don't mean, I don't think Istarted carrying until maybe high school. I
remember in middle school we had towear a uniform, which sucks. That
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was two years. Seventh and eighthgrade at the school that I was going
to, we had to wear auniform, which was a uniform like the
school colors. We were like green, so we'd wear like a green polo,
like a green polo and some khakipants or something. It was bad.
I hated that time of the year. And they were like no logos
on your shirts. Like it wasso dumb. Like the whole uniform thing
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was dumb. It wasn't even aprivate school or anything. You had to
buy your own or to buy ourown. They just told you get this
color. Yeah, like this likethese type of clothing, like you know,
collared shirts, slacks, and thesecolors you can wear. And that
was like the guideline. And thenwe had to go and buy uniform and
we wear them every day. Andthen every day they would like, uh
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you know when they would do withthe announcements. Yeah, and then teachers
would have everybody in class stand upand she would like or hear she would
check everybody and make sure they werein uniform, and if there was like
a violation, you would be sentto the office and they'd give you fucking
clothes to wear. Wait. Ihate at that time in my life if
people had to buy their own clothes. Yeah, or quote unquote uniforms was
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it was everyone wearing a different shadeof green. It was never uniform where
like, oh, I mean theytold you there was shade of green they
wanted. But yeah, obviously therewas gonna be some off colors depending on
the brand that you bought. Butyeah, that's what I remember. Elementary
school, of course you wear whatever. High school, you know, there's
like little things about dress code,like it was no sports, no team
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logos was like the biggest thing.Couldn't wear hats stuff like that, But
yeah, it wasn't. It wasn'tuntil high school when I would put out
that, like the best fit thatI got over the summer would be out
and ready to go the night beforestarting school. Junior high for me,
seventh, seventh, eighth, ninthwas junior high for me, and I
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remember caring about what I was wearing. But with that being said, at
that time, you didn't you didn'thave a level of like what was cool
or not because where I got allmy shoes during that time was pay less
shoes. Damn during middle school too, well, junior high was we never
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during my era, we didn't havea thing called middle school. Eighth ninth
this is when ninth you were stillin junior high. You didn't go to
the high school yet. But payLess Shoes was the spot pro wings to
me. I thought that was theshoe like. I didn't know about Nike,
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Reebok, none of that stuff.Maybe, and not until ninth grade,
but seventh and eighth it was strictlyswapped me clothes. Whatever you would
buy at Miller's Outpost. That wasthat later turned Onto turned to Anchor Blue,
but it was called Miller's Outpost.Just whatever you're has got you in
seventh eighth grade because you just didn'tI didn't have my style yet. But
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yeah, that is a memory,A core memory I have is Payless Shoes
was my shopping spot because that's whereyour parents took you. Yeah, I
didn't. I don't think I hadmy style at that time either. I
know what I liked, but Ididn't really have a style, and obviously
I couldn't wear it because we werein uniform anyway. So I think that
transition period was kind of crazy.And I always talk about this, that
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that middle school or that junior high, it's such a crucial point in your
life. It's just I don't know, I just feel like that was when
I was most insecure. That waswhen like you know, puberty's kicking in.
You don't really know your identity yetduring that time that was I didn't
really like those years of my schoolyears. I would probably have to say
middle school is the time that Ididn't really like at all. I'll pick
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you back on that because eighth gradeis when I remember start getting bullied.
Yeah, I mean it's that it'sgrowing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and and then you start thinking,oh wait, these are not cool.
I thought these were cool, butyou start getting bullied and then that so
ninth grade that's when you were likeyou want all the name brand shit,
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right, I'm telling Mom's like,hey I need this. Luckily, the
swap meat carried the Nikes, andyou're like, yeah, anything with a
swosh on it, Like was ita real swoosh? Yeah, who knows,
but hey, it had a swooshon it, and you got it
the swap meat. From what Iremember, it was just like it was
real but maybe like a cheaper shoe. Yeah, but again, now you're
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just buying the name brand. Youstill. To me, ninth grade,
I didn't really have a style yet, Okay. I was just copying whatever
you saw, like the cool kidswearing or whatever. You like what you
saw, Yeah, whatever your friendswere wearing, Like, yeah, I'll
get those ray on silk shirts too. That was big during my years,
the starter jackets with the team.I remember having a Philadelphia Eagles one.
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But yeah, I didn't start theputting the fit together there. You know
the classic image of putting it onyour bid. Yeah, yeah, the
top, the shorts, whatever you'regonna wear, the shoes, and then
you just look stepped back a coupleof feet, looked at it. That's
the one. That's the one.And then But I don't know about you.
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I think I don't if I remembercorrectly, I would only have like
two new fits and then you wouldhave to recycle like all your older stuff.
Yeah. I didn't get that mucheither, because especially during that time
going into high school, I startedliking, you know, the brand stuff,
so I got a little bit moreexpensive. So, you know,
the budget wasn't as as much.I couldn't get so much for the budget.
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So yeah, i'd get just likea few fits and then maybe accumulate
during the year, maybe during Christmas. I would ask for some more clothes.
During that time, but yeah,man, that that was the time
that you start caring about your looks, your fit, your shoes. I
know, I was really big onky Swiss during that era. The classics.
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Yeah, that was also during anera which sucked because we weren't during
it, weren't at school, butI was. My era of high school
was during the time of like throwbackjerseys being big, and the matching cap
and the matching shirt and the logosall over the cap and the logos on
the jeans and the Air Force oneslike that was my era, and you
couldn't wear a lot of that ship. I was just about to say,
was that allowed? No, thatwas not allowed. So it sucked that
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I was not able. But likeout of school or even at school dances
where they didn't really care what wewore, I would bust out, you
know, the throwback jersey or whatever. But you just brought back school dances.
Yeah. Fun fact. I neverwent to school dance until my first
one was probably junior prom. Okay, but you went to prom. I
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went to prom. But the dances, there was dances in junior high.
Yeah, there was dances, youknow, in tenth grade and just like
little ones. That's the classic onesat the gym. Yeah, yeah,
like we I remember when going toBullard, we used to have like a
maybe a dance maybe that first fewweeks. It was kind of like a
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welcome dance to kind of like hey, you know, school started back up.
That was like the the the Falldance, I guess. And then
there was another dance we would calllike the Army dance, which was cool
because everyone were a camo yes,and those type of dances, like the
regular ones. I didn't go toany of those, so I went to
all those, but the ones wereit was like a couple like sadis or
formal. I never went to thosebecause of course my anxiety never wanted me
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to, never allowed me to asksomebody to go. But the other dances
were fun. I would go,of course. They would just like kind
of stand on the sidelines, notreally doing much with friends. Yeah,
I want my friends, and wewould kind of like dance among ourselves,
meaning like we because we were intolike dancing, like you know, pop
locking all that type of stuff,so we would kind of do that and
maybe like dance with you know,not like a battle dance, but you
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kind of dancing within a circle.With all your friends. But yeah,
I never I never even did prommy senior year or anything. You didn't
know I didn't. I didn't goto no formal. I didn't go to
no prom just because I didn't asknobody. Yeah, during those times is
when my fear of, like Ican't talk to girls. Yeah, so
you still ask somebody no, never, and how'd you go to form?
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The well? That was eleventh grade? I was, you know, I
think you know, I was onthe football team, and you know,
I think that one was a littleeasier, a little yeah, you know.
And eleven the grade, that's whenyou know, the less fear of
like going up to girls for sure. Okay, but just I'm just mostly
thinking remembering junior high school, thosedances you're talking about, the sadies the
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well, why didn't you go tothe fear of like like I don't have
a date. I never went withfriends, Like I never had the group
of friends that would say, hey, this is the plan, all of
us at the dance. Okay,see that's how we would roll. I
never had those kind of friends.Everybody squeezing in the car and then we
rolled up to the dance. Butyeah, I didn't do any of the
couple dances because my anxiety didn't allowme to ask a girl during that time
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you were so I was junior high, yours will. It was called middle
school already seventh and eighth grade.Yeah, it was a school for just
those two grades. Yeah, whatfor example? I mean, I remember
being in band and junior high.Did you do anything in middle school?
So in middle school I actually playedI played basketball, and oh yeah that
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was it because they didn't have likefootball or soccer during that time. I
was playing soccer competitive league outside ofschool. But I was playing basketball only
in middle school and I didn't reallydo much with that. I'm not gonna
go into this story because I knowthere's a podcast episode with this full story.
But in junior high when I wasin when I joined band. I've
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never played drums before, never inmy life. But where you start is
there's three levels, beginning, intermediate, and marching band. Marching band was
like the top level. That's,you know, the highest that you want
to be at, that's the goal. But in junior high, I just
had to go to I had togo to beginning band because it's my first
time ever playing drums. And thatmovie drum line with Nick Cannon is basically
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my junior high story really is becauseyou learn how to read notes. But
it's so simple because you're in thebeginning band and I understood it, like
I understood it quickly. You justgot you just understood music. Yeah.
And then and then they would,you know, play something and I would
copy it, like I could easilyplay it on the drums easily. So
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from beginning band, they moved mestraight to marching band and I was in
junior high. That was like mybig thing. I was a drummer in
marching band. Not knowing the noteswere way more difficult. So I would
just ask my bandmates, just tellme how this goes, yeah, and
I'll just copy it, just likethe movie. So you didn't know how
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to read music like how Nick cando it? Great? Yeah, I
knew, I understood it. Ijust when you're in marching band. It
was Yeah, it was complicated stuff, but that, yeah, that was
like a highlight from my junior high. Now during that time, you don't
perform at games, do you right? Oh no, we we did.
We did parade that did. Wegot to do Disneyland that I've actually been
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to Disneyland where I've seen like studentscome in to perform. We got to
do that. And but ninth gradeis when I started my athletic side.
Okay, ninth grade we had afootball junior high football team. Okay,
so a fun fact of my ninthgrade football team. We went ah and
nine. We didn't win one game. We did not win one game.
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So it was just a team ofninth graders, all ninth graders. Okay,
so no eighth graders to be onthe team. No, only ninth
graders. You play other ninth gradersfor other junior high ninth graders yet,
so yeah, we it was this. Like I said, ninth grade was
my first time being on an actualfootball team, organized football team, and
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I didn't know what I was doing. But I was a starter. Yeah,
I was like fast enough, bigenough, strong enough, but we
just did not win a game.Fast forward to high school. I ended
up we ended up winning like thechampionship where we went underfeed and all that
stuff. But so when you gotinto high school, you played all three
years, all three years, andit kind of goes into the whole back
to school thing. When you're playingfootball in high school, that's like right
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away, right right when you start, when you go back to school,
it's football season. Yeah, anddon't you even practice a little bit before
even school starts. So I thinkgoing back to school for the first day
in high school was always a highlightbecause you always got to wear your athletic
gear. Did you do that thingwhere you know, uh, you're playing
like a home game and then agirl would wear like you're away jersey that
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Yeah, one of the cheerleaders waswearing yeah, my my jackets or whatever.
But but the weird thing is Iwas like a big guy, so
it was like super big on herbecause she was like super small. Warm
though, this give me school inthe stadium. Yeah, we we did
that. But back to school inhigh school was always fun because people looked
up to the football players the classalways it's always the biggest sport. And
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it's like you said, as soonas you get on campus, it's like
already football season. Friday nights isalways a big thing. When I got
into high school, then I wasable to play soccer. I had played
soccer my entire life competitively, butthen when I got into high school,
I was able to play for myhigh school team. That was a lot
of fun playing high school soccer.That's the only thing I did Outside of
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that. I was in one clubmy senior year. It was called Hip
Hop Nation, which was cool.It was basically like a lot of dancers.
One of our homies was like aturntable list too, And towards the
end of the school year on mysenior year, we actually like performed in
front of the Kroad my boys tohob was scratching on the turntables and my
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boy Greg and my boy Adam,we were all like dancing and we put
on a little dance routine. Itwas It was fun. That was kind
of like the only thing that Idid. And when I did that,
I had looked back and wish thatI had did more in high school,
like joining other clubs or just beingpart of things. If I could redo
it, I would probably tell myselfto do more. But that goes back
to the whole anxiety thing, right. I didn't really. I was just
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too nervous to sign up for stufffor being extra curricular activities. Yeah,
were you in any clubs or anythinglike that? My cousins and I started
the Asia, the very first Asianclub in our high school. Okay,
there was never because you know,there was the Black Student Union BSU.
Yeah, there was Metcha. Idon't know what the Mexican Club was called
for. You guys had one,but m E C h A. Okay,
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uh, I forget what it stoodfor Chicano and was was it the
Chicano No? How did think?I don't know, I don't, Yeah,
but there's called Metcha, and Ithink that was it. Those were
the two big like nationality clubs.And my cousins and I were like,
let's start an Asian club and westarted one. We found our we found
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the one Asian teacher to be ouryeah, our supervisors, supervisor of some
sort. But it was fun,like we did not know what we were
doing, but we just started it. We held meetings, we did talent
shows, We were part of youknow, things that were that were happening
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in schools. Fundraisers. I rememberwe were. We were selling like Asian
food. We I remember putting outlike a table and every kid bought their
moms like dish and we would havelike you know, would sell it as
the lunch. And that was likeour fundraiser. And if I'm not mistaken,
I think that club uh is stillexisting to this day. It's called
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ASU Asian Students School. Yeah,I think it is, And we were
the start. We started that likea plaque over there something like that.
How I wanted to get to this. How was lunch? What was lunch
time in school for you? Soin high school it was just always chilling,
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hanging out with with our friends.We had like a certain area on
the quad where we all hung out, right, Like everybody's had that area
and everyone just went there. Sothat was my vibe in high school.
And we would just sit there andjoke and clown on each other the entire
time. That's all we did.Like I just remember every lunch, were
just laughing the entire time. AndI know senior year we were able to
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go off campus, not all years, but only senior year. And even
then we didn't really go off thatmuch because about time you you know,
get off campus order your food,it was like already time to come back
to class. And to me,I wanted to hang out with friends and
chill. I didn't give a fuckabout going off campus to eat. Some
people just thought it was like thebiggest thing, like, oh my god,
we can leave school and go eatsomewhere, And to me, it
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was never that big a deal,Like, Okay, I could do that
when I get off of school.It wasn't a big deal. But I
don't know, some people just likeneeded to get off campus right away,
and I just thought that was littledramatic for some reason, like relax what
I'm saying. So we would justhang out on campus. Every once in
a while we would go, butfor the most part, we would just
clown each other, go to thesnack bar, grab some chips in a
drink. That's all you needed,and uh, what about you? Well,
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I'm that one guy that my senioryear, that's when I started driving.
I had a car my senior year, and so did my other friends.
And we would just mob like fourpeople in a car. Whoever as
a car, you take thirty minutesand you just we went to there.
There was two spots. It wasthe Carls Junior across the street or the
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Baker's Bakers is this Ie Burger joint, But those are the two spots that
we would drive to and it wouldbe a line of the homies cars just
like six cars lined up really justlike going out the parking lot and driving.
Yeah, That's another thing. There'sonly like a select number of places
that are close to the school,right, so when everybody goes there,
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it's so like the lines are heldalong and you're just like looking like,
oh, it's almost time to alreadyget back. We made it happen,
and we made it a fun thing. But you're right, you were rushed,
like everyone get back in their cars. Yeah yeah, but even before
that, were you bringing your lunch? Nah, you're buying it over there.
I mean, I just just likehow I am today, I just
don't really I'm not a big luncheater, so I would just grab a
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snack. So we had like wehad like a snack bar area, which
was cool. They would sell likeuh was it me? And it's like
pizza's little mini pizzas, or theywould have subway or chips. And then
of course like we had, youknow, so of machines everywhere. So
that's the type of stuff that Ineeded. I just always needed something to
keep me going. I was neverlike I need to just go order a
meal and have like a big gasslunch like everybody was so dramatic about.
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But yeah, elementary school, Iwas somebody that always brought their lunch,
so I never liked what they calledlike the hot lunch. I was always
a kid that brought my lunch toschool in elementary school. I remember the
that hot lunch thing where you uhtray and then you went down the line,
very prison style, right it was. But in the fucking chocolate milk.
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That's so weird to me? Wasthat weird because you're eating lunched with
chocolate milk? Like, give mea bottle of water or something. I
was all right with the chocolate.I mean, I'm a fan of chocolate
milk, but just looking back onit, that's so weird to give someone
here's your lunch in milk. Likewhat, Let me ask you this.
Did you did your school ever havewhere they looked for volunteers to serve?
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Yeah, that was always fun.You had to wear the hair and the
hair and give your friends a littleextra. Yeah. I did that a
lot because you got free food afterthat, and I think you got to
get out of class a little,yeah, to prepare and then maybe go
late to class a little bit.Man. That's crazy. How that's funny.
That's a memory because, like youknow, with the interest of owning
a restaurant. Yeah, dam whowould have thought? Yeah, man,
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I do remember volunteering a lot forthat. Yeah, so that was my
elementary school, the hot lunch thingjunior high. I remember in the beginning,
I would pack a lunch and itwould be that classic your whatever the
leftovers your mom made from either Asianfood and the cool whip man. But
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yeah, I remember again like gettingbullied. So then you would just be
like, mom, I need likefive bucks a week or foreting bully for
what you ate. Yes, yeahthat was that's that's so sad to me.
Man. I never really got Iguess I got. I guess if
you're getting made fun of your gettingbullied. But when I was going to
elementary school, and I would takemy own lunch from a very young age
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because my mom's just how she raisedus. I was always into spicy food
at a very young age. SoI would pack like tabasco sauce or a
hollow pino like stuff like that,or salsa in my lunch, and people
would make fun of me for that, like made me feel insecure about bringing
like spicy food. So I feelyou on that. And then I wasn't
big on lunch anyway. So onceyou got into middle school or junior high,
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for you guys, it wasn't youdidn't have to go to lunch.
You know how elementary school everyone linesup to go to lunch. It was
an option in middle school for us. And so when I found that out,
I was like, thank god,Like I hated eating lunch, everyone
rushed to lunch line. I'm like, now I'm chilling. I got my
drink and bag of chips, andI'm good to go. So I did
appreciate how you weren't forced to eatlunch anymore. I remember the when I
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would bring the Asian food, andI remember they would do the whole classic
ching chong chin like that. Yeahyeah, man. So it's crazy how
back then when you're a kid,because you know now like you don't give
a fuck, yeah a fuck whatanybody said, but you are back then
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it sucks. Yeah, you careabout what everybody said, care about what
everyone thinks. So that's when I'mlike, mom might need to buy my
lunch. So junior high, youI would get in line, and this
one was more of a cafeteria stop, meaning more of like a not a
restaurant, but you would pick certainthings okay. It wasn't. So you
would go to the register, gotyou. They would say, okay,
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all this adds up to five bucks. Okay, So it wasn't like a
school lunch where they're like, oh, these are the sides and sandwich.
You pick the drink. That's abetter vibe. Yeah. Yeah, so
I remember doing that, and Iremember one year, uh they had French
fries, and I remember that wasthe biggest thing. They got French fries
to choose from, so you couldpick French fries and put it on.
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To this day, I think themiddle school French fries had to be some
of the best French fries ever had. Like they people would get so crazy
and back to that thing where somepeople would work, you know, work
the work the lunch line. Iremember people being like, hey, I'm
working the lunch time. If y'allneed extra fries, I got you.
And then they would have the sauce, which is everyone always it's like secret
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sauce, but it's always what thousandIsland dressing or whatever. Any people would
eat that with their fries. Yeah, the fries middle school were hanging.
A side note, my mom wasactually a lunch lady at the school that
I went to, So there wastimes where we had like an early dismissal
day. I forgot what they calledthose days where it's like early dismissal I
don't know, half day or whatever. But my mom would still have to
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be at work, so I wouldgo to the lunch room until she was
done, and I would eat someonelike the leftover food that they had from
that day. So that was likealways cool, and I got to be
friends with some of the lunch ladiesduring that time. But yeah, man,
I mean, did you have acertain food that you can remember?
A lunch food that just slapped forsome reason? The fries, I remember,
that's a core memory, but thereis I do have another core memory.
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In high school, you would justget the French bread pizza, the
oval one, So that's what theywould serve as the pizza. And one
year they made an announcement I forgetwhat, I'll just say it's probably not
Shaky's, whether they're like Shaki's thenew sponsor of the pizza, and we
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started getting the mini boxes. Yeah, it was a brand one, and
I remember everyone going crazy for those, like finally some real pizza. Yeah,
that's that's a that's a memory.How about getting in trouble? Were
What kind of kid were you inschool? I mean, so obviously I
was like a good kid. Inever got bad grades. I remember distinctively
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in high school I was getting myfirst C. Yeah, that's how bad
it was. I got as andb's all the time, and it was
a C plus. It's like aseventy nine point nine, and the fucking
teacher didn't want to round me up. And I just remember being like,
my dad's gonna be mad at this, and it's a fucking seed. I
just remember like, just you knowwhat, I'm just gonna tell him before
the fucking report card even comes out. Let me, let me just get
it because I was about to goon break. Yeah, and I was
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just like, hey, I gota C plus. I was like,
but I'm gonna get it up.Don't worry. But I thought i'd let
you know. And he respected mefor for me telling him. But yeah,
I was a good student, man, I was. I always got
rewards or is it awards, perfect, perfect attendance all the time. I
got you know, four point erGPA. A lot of the times I
never got in trouble, like likeon campus doing dumb shit. So I
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never got suspended or anything like that, maybe since to the office a couple
of times for like dumb shits.To this day, I mean, i've
ever since, ever since I firstsaw it in elementary school. I don't
know if it was the first person, maybe Vanilla Ice the lines in the
eyebrows. So I remember when Istill saw the lines in my eye and
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if you know me, you know, to this day, I still do
that. And it was an elementaryschool and I just remember seeing it and
I was like, why is thatso cool to me? And I remember
my dad was like, yeah,if you want to do what I could
do it for you. So Iused to put lines in my eyebrows and
teachers hated me for that. Theywould send me to the Yeah, they'd
be like, you know, youneed to tell your mom to like she
needs to put makeup and cover that. Yeah. Yeah. And then another
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thing that I used to do becauseagain I see shit and I think it's
cool. You know, like footballplayers, they were their number on their
chain. Yep, I had that, and so okay, so yeah that
too, right, So so Iwas number eight growing up to this day.
That's still my favorite number and itwas my soccer number, and so
I had like a chain with likean eight, and they would send me
to the office like, oh,that's gang related, like eight what They're
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like, yeah, that's gang Yeah. So I would get sent for like
dumb shit. There wasn't even myfault, you know what I'm saying.
But because the way I looked andI was into like the urban ship and
I was into like the hip hopculture, that they always judged me on
that. But it was funny becauseevery time my dad would get pissed and
you would come down like I'll bethere, and they would try to like,
you know, oh, he's doingthis, and my dad would be
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like, give me a favorite.Look up his academics right now. And
they pull up and they'd be like, see that perfect attendance. See those
straight a's like hauler at me whenhe gets like when he starts sucking up
in school. So I always lovedthat my dad like had my back in
that sense because he knew that Iwas a good person and a good student.
It's just I was being judged bythe way I looked, or maybe
some of the guys that I hungaround with. But at the end of
the day. I was still gettingshit done. I was good kid as
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well to studious a's and b's untilprobably my junior year, eleventh grade,
like I'm almost done, I'm gonnastart slacking. It's because you start more
interesting girls and yeah, man again, I played all the sports during eleventh
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on the popular side. No,I wouldn't think so there were popular kids.
I would I would see myself inthe middle. Okay, I was
somewhere in the I was a middleperson. I was right there. I
wasn't, you know, I wasn't. I mean, let's just do school
terms. There was always the nerdsand the geeks and a lot of stuff,
which you know, I was aband geek, but I was at
like a hidden like you know.That's what I would always say, is
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I played the drums, right,I'm not like on the flute or something.
But I was always in the middle. I wasn't the super popular ones,
but I hung out with them.I had good friends. But yeah,
my junior and senior years when Istarted slacking, start getting seized.
I think I had one d atone time. My parents were like tripping
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out on me. But yeah,I didn't get in trouble because I don't
know if this happened in your school. You would always make friends with the
security guard. Yeah, always hadthe security guard homies. And then also
in my senior year, I hadthose birthdays where I turned eighteen my senior
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year, and you could sign yourselfout. So I remember doing that a
lot for no reason. I wasalready driving, So you would just go
to the office, show your IDand say, yeah, I'm signing myself
out, and I would just leavefor no reason, just because I could.
Just like how I said with thelunch situation, when did you start
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did you start driving? Or whendid you have a car right away?
In high school? What maybe liketenth grade of senior years when I got
my car, Conda Civic hatchback,the cheapest model fifth that stereotype even more.
I mean during that time that wasthat was the racing scene was the
biggest thing. But my car wasYes, that's the kind of car people
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would soup up. My car wasstock. It was just it wasn't lowered.
It was it was pretty pathetic.Crazy fast forward to to my high
school era, that's when Fast andthe Furious came out, I think maybe
a year prior, and so thatwas like the craze of like the hot
imports shit. Everyone was driving youknow Accuras and Hondas and Civics and ship
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and so I actually started driving inMan pretty early, like I got my
you know, permit as soon asyou could. I got my license as
soon as you could. Like myparents were on top of it, so
I started driving one of their carsin maybe middle of sophomore year. And
I got my car junior year,which, of course, during that fast
and furious era, had a blackHonda Chord. Had to fucking exhaust the
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whole fucking shit, right, AlthoughI didn't race because I didn't. I
wasn't. I didn't like it forracing. I just liked the look of
the car. So I had myblack Honda Chord and yeah, man,
it was dope during that era.But I went to Bullard and there's a
lot of rich kids, so theyhad cars that just shit it online.
But my group of friends we allrolled in those you know Accuris and Hondas
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and we would mob out with thefucking exhaust. Everybody hears, so that
was like a fun time. Thisis the reason why I didn't get my
license till my senior year. Doyou remember when you were sixteen seventeen,
that's when you could start. Therewas a process, but when you turned
eighteen, you could just take thetest, yeah and get it. So
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I think I remember my parents werelike, just wait till you're eighteen,
and I was okay with it becauseI didn't want to go through the anxiety
of the process of yeah, becauseit is a process. Yeah, if
you're sixteen seventeen, it's a wholeI had to go to go to school,
yes, yeah, I was likemaybe like a week. My parents
paid for that. That was offcamp. That was a lot of money.
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And then you pay to like takethe permit test, and I think
i'd felt the first time, butthen I passed, and then you have
your permit tests or where you canlike drive, but you still have to
have like an adult with you orsomething. It was like weird rules,
right, and then like every sixmonths, like the rules got a little
lighter, and then you take yourdriver's tests and I don't know it,
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and then you can't like drive withsomeone under eighteen in your car for a
while. But yeah, I wentthrough that whole process that you're talking about.
So that's what my parents were like, just wait till you're eighteen.
You don't have to do any ofthat. And I was like, okay,
yes, and it all worked out. A funny story about getting my
first car going into my senior yearis do you know how to drive stick?
A stick shift for this day?No? Okay? So my dad
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and I go get my car.We pick it out, red Honda Civic
hatchback stock and I'm like, it'san automatic, right, and my dad's
like, no, it's a stickand I'll like you, no, no,
it can't be. I don't knowhow. He's all, well,
don't learn today, You're gonna learnday, and he forced me to drive
it home and I did not knowhow to drive out so many times,
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so many times. But in retrospectit was a good thing because I could
drive any car. During that timethere was a lot of stick shifts.
Yeah, and it was popular.Yeah, so yeah, I actually enjoyed
it because you were driving. Yeah. I missed driving stick shift kind of
gave you something to do, Iguess, yeah, But that that was
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my first car story of going intomy senior year. Did you date during
high school? No I or anything, So I didn't know that that's what
it was like you were supposed tolike just date one person. But there
was a girl that I started talkingto during my senior year and now looking
back at it, oh man,I think we were together. But during
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that time, ye uh put atitle on it. We were never official.
I didn't know that that's what wewere to do. But that's who
I would be with at school.That's who wore my jersey and was like
we went to like prom with andstuff or no, I didn't. No,
I didn't go to prom with Liketo me, she was just my
friend, but a friend that Iwould like go kiss, you know,
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kiss kiss goodbye in front of herhouse and we walked each other home or
whatever. Yeah, but so no, I didn't really date. But I
think I was into girls like letme go meet and try to like meet
as many girls, but there wasone particular girl that I would always just
hang out with. Yeah, Imean I always use this and maybe this
was my reason. Maybe it wasjust my excuse, but I was just
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always like I'm just too much intomy academics and sports that I just felt
like I didn't really have time toor I didn't care. I guess I
just didn't care too honestly. Butyeah, I mean there were still girls
that like I flirted with or likewhenn't that mind dating? But I just
never just did it. I don'tknow if this is a fact. I'm
trying to put my mind back tothat mode of high school. I never
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knew, like I'm like I said, I'm just guessing I didn't. I
wasn't sure the whole process of youhaving a girlfriend, Like to me,
that didn't mean like to me,it didn't compute that oh like go look
for go be with a girlfriend.You would have friends like, oh,
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man their boyfriend and girlfriend. Buton my end, I'm like, like
it do this. It wasn't areality like oh wait, am I supposed
to look for a girl? ButI would just I would like to hang
out with girls, like we hadto hang out and hang out. But
yeah, I didn't have the conceptof relationship in high school. Yeah,
I mean, I guess that wasthe same way. Like again, I
hung out with girls. I was. I was actually one of those dudes
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that kind of was cool with everybody, you know how you talk about like
we were kind of in the middle. Yeah, like I talked to the
popular kids, but I also talkingto their kids. Man, Like even
the kids that were you know howthey always say, hey, you should
just go talk to that quiet kid. I was that dude to talk to
the quiet kid. Man. Iwas cool with everybody. I was super
cool with like the foreign exchange studentsthat came in. I always thought that
was cool. I would ask themquestions about their country. So I was
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never I was never like the bully, you know what I'm saying. I
was always the one like, letme talk to the kids same they don't.
They don't get talked to. Andalready hang out with like the white
dudes. I'll hang out with theblack dudes and mexic Like. I was
cool with every the Asian dudes.And I think I think that's a honestly
helped me in life because to thisday, like everybody's like always cool with
me, girls, guys, everybody, because I've always been that person just
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opened to everybody. It's wild thatI still remember a guy's name. His
name is Portericay Porcay. He wasa stutterer. He had like a heavy
stutter and he wouldn't get made funof. And I befriended him and I
was like, ye know, wewere hanging bro. Yeah, yeah,
I remember, just like I'm goingto befriend you. Yeah, just because
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I saw people making fun of them. Yeah, so I was like the
same way. But you're but you'reright, I hung out with everyone.
There's a good balance, right,especially like when you're in sports, then
you really get to kind of morepeople. Yeah, yep, you know
we had our best friends. Youknow, my god J c McKee.
That was he lived like a fewblocks away from me and we just go
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hang out. That was like myhigh school best friend. I think I
liked hanging out with him because hewas like a ladies man. He all
the girls were always around you like, oh cool, it's gonna make it
easier for me. He was likehe was the classic, like blonde hair,
blue eye. Yeah, you know, he was our quarterback in junior
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high and then uh, you knowwe played We played all the sports together.
But he's the one that taught mehow to play baseball. Okay,
so but yeah, I enjoyed hangingout with him, but he became my
best friend. But yeah, Ithink it's because you got so many girls
hanging out with you, so Iwant to hang out with this guy.
Did you guys have a sober grador end of the year trip or anything
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like that. Oh man, Ithink we did, but I don't even
remember going. Or I think wedid, but I didn't go. Okay,
we did. Add I think itwas Disneyland during my year, but
I didn't end up going. Ohwait, grad night is that the same?
Oh? Yeah, we had gradnight? Yea. I was like
two, So sober grad is somethingwe did, like in town. And
then there was a grad night.Yeah we didn't. We didn't do that.
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It was just grad night. Andwhere was that Disneyland? Oh Disneyland?
Okay, yea, Yeah, Iremember enjoying that. I was with
a group of friends. That thatwas a fun night. Yeah. Fast
forward to me going into radio too. Let's see through two to three years
later, I was in radio.Isn't crazy? And I was DJing grad
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nights. Wow, that's the samefor me. I was in high school
and then a year or later I'min radio. That's so wild to me.
Yeah, wow, way to go, like this has basically been my
my job my entire life. Andyou're too right. I mean, I
mean, you know, in highschool, I had my we talked about
and we talked about my fucking funeralhome that I worked at. But yeah,
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I mean for the most part.Yeah, radio has been our career
from the get We've been blessed.Yeah, twenty like basically we're reaching twenty
years. I've reached twenty years.Yeah, I'm getting there. You're getting
there. And yeah, so man, how crazy our life is from from
school to now school to now.Yeah. So with that being said,
back to school season, shout outto everybody returning to school, whether that's
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you know, high school, college, elementary, middle school, junior high
or whatever. Yeah, we didn'teven get to the college. Yeah,
I mean, do we want totouch on it? And we might have
to say that I wasn't. Iwasn't a big college student. College was
not for me. I tried.I even tried going to Davry. Yeah,
Davry Institute was what are those collegescalled the trade school the trade schools
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where you just learned about our computersand stuff. And then I all,
I already started having interest in radio, So I started majoring in communications with
a broadcasting thing. And I justremember in college, I just I could
not I don't know if it wasmy add but I just could not sit
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there through a class, say,man, I just couldn't we almost have
the same like schooling experience because Idid the same I mean I do.
I did some community college shout outFresno City College out here, and then
I got into Fresno State and Idid it, and I just I didn't
care anymore. At least I wasduring the time where I started to get
into radio and I was doing parttime stuff and it was just like,
(40:35):
man, I could be a fulltime or now, but I didn't really
want to. But I still neededsome some classes to finish college. And
I'm like, yeah, but I'mlike not even caring. I'm even like
failing classes to waste of money.I'm checked out at this point because I
know what I really want to do. Speaking of money, I wanted to
ask you that just because you know, I never went to state. Yea,
there's no state you know sort ofthing. What was the financial situation
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were you paying? Like, okay, so and so I was hell of
good in high school. I hadgrants to take care of my ride.
Yeah yeah, so my ride wastaken care of all right. Yeah yeah,
so it was almost worth giving ita shot. Yeah yeah. So
you know, like I had youknow, FAFTSA shit paid for my you
know, school at City College,and then my grants were taking care of
my state college. And uh butI was wasting a lot of money on
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books and you know, time andenergy and just didn't want to be there.
And when the opportunity came for meto be a full on on air
personality and I wanted that's really whereI wanted to invest my time and energy,
I just I just dropped out andI was like, I'm over this,
you know what I'm saying, yeah, real quick with mine same mine
was all was community colleges. Yeah, so Chafee Community College was my first
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school. And of course it's itwas so hard for me to make friends
because you had your friends already.Hardly anyone was ever in class. There's
maybe like five people in a class. This is definitely a different vibe man.
Yeah. So it's yeah, andyou're trying to get that feeling of
school, yeah, of high school, but it was it just wasn't And
so you were I'm assuming you werelike in town, right, yeah.
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Yeah, see a lot I knowother people that really got that college experience
by going to another city, sleepingin dorms. I mean, I live
out here, so I was.I mean it was easy obviously didn't have
to pay for any of that stuff, but it just never felt like that
college experience, like, uh,kind of just still going to school and
I don't really want to be here, and I have a choice not to
be here, so I took it. I even did a thing where I
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started dating somebody in college, butshe lived far away, okay, and
she lived in Pasadena, which wasa good forty five minutes away from where
I was living, and I transferredschools just so I was that guy.
But that school also had like aradio broadcasting department, and so I took
those classes, just those classes,and I remember understanding everything they were teaching.
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I understood it, and to thepoint where the teachers were always using
me as the guy that John,can you come up here the class show
the class how to do this demonstrator? Yeah, I just understood radio.
And then fast forward to me winningthat contest during my college years in Pasadena
and me leaving because I got thejob I wanted. Yeah, it's like,
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why this is why I'm going toschool for it, but I already
got the job selling. I don'tknow if that's a good mentality. But
that was my mentality, Like thiswas my goal. Yeah, why am
I still going to school to reachthe goal that I already have. That
was pretty much my mentality. Thatwas like, yes, I guess again,
whatever works for your life. Youknow what I'm saying. That's I'm
not here to tell you what youshould and shouldn't do, but whatever works
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for your life, do that.This is what worked for my life.
I'll end with that. There itis until next time. This could give
me fire. Podcasts
This could give me for our podcastWhat Up I'm Schizo? That is John
Magic And we are back back toschool season, and this is the time
of the year where you start seeingon Instagram the parents posting whatever grade their
kids are at, and the picturesusually them either holding a sign or they're
out the front door. First dayof first grade, second grade, third
(00:29):
grade, whatever it is. We'rein back to school season. Yeah,
so I think with this, withthis time of the year, we sort
of wanted to talk about our schoolingexperience, if you will. Yeah,
I mean, even if we rememberyou were asking me if I had any
like back to school memories, Idon't know if it was ever a thing
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for me. The only thing Ido remember about back to school is you
had you had to have like oneor two fits ready. Yeah. But
even if I go back before thatelementary school, I mean, were you
like that in elementary school where youwere you got your clothes ready? I
don't mean, I don't think Istarted carrying until maybe high school. I
remember in middle school we had towear a uniform, which sucks. That
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was two years. Seventh and eighthgrade at the school that I was going
to, we had to wear auniform, which was a uniform like the
school colors. We were like green, so we'd wear like a green polo,
like a green polo and some khakipants or something. It was bad.
I hated that time of the year. And they were like no logos
on your shirts. Like it wasso dumb. Like the whole uniform thing
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was dumb. It wasn't even aprivate school or anything. You had to
buy your own or to buy ourown. They just told you get this
color. Yeah, like this likethese type of clothing, like you know,
collared shirts, slacks, and thesecolors you can wear. And that
was like the guideline. And thenwe had to go and buy uniform and
we wear them every day. Andthen every day they would like, uh
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you know when they would do withthe announcements. Yeah, and then teachers
would have everybody in class stand upand she would like or hear she would
check everybody and make sure they werein uniform, and if there was like
a violation, you would be sentto the office and they'd give you fucking
clothes to wear. Wait. Ihate at that time in my life if
people had to buy their own clothes. Yeah, or quote unquote uniforms was
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it was everyone wearing a different shadeof green. It was never uniform where
like, oh, I mean theytold you there was shade of green they
wanted. But yeah, obviously therewas gonna be some off colors depending on
the brand that you bought. Butyeah, that's what I remember. Elementary
school, of course you wear whatever. High school, you know, there's
like little things about dress code,like it was no sports, no team
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logos was like the biggest thing.Couldn't wear hats stuff like that, But
yeah, it wasn't. It wasn'tuntil high school when I would put out
that, like the best fit thatI got over the summer would be out
and ready to go the night beforestarting school. Junior high for me,
seventh, seventh, eighth, ninthwas junior high for me, and I
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remember caring about what I was wearing. But with that being said, at
that time, you didn't you didn'thave a level of like what was cool
or not because where I got allmy shoes during that time was pay less
shoes. Damn during middle school too, well, junior high was we never
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during my era, we didn't havea thing called middle school. Eighth ninth
this is when ninth you were stillin junior high. You didn't go to
the high school yet. But payLess Shoes was the spot pro wings to
me. I thought that was theshoe like. I didn't know about Nike,
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Reebok, none of that stuff.Maybe, and not until ninth grade,
but seventh and eighth it was strictlyswapped me clothes. Whatever you would
buy at Miller's Outpost. That wasthat later turned Onto turned to Anchor Blue,
but it was called Miller's Outpost.Just whatever you're has got you in
seventh eighth grade because you just didn'tI didn't have my style yet. But
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yeah, that is a memory,A core memory I have is Payless Shoes
was my shopping spot because that's whereyour parents took you. Yeah, I
didn't. I don't think I hadmy style at that time either. I
know what I liked, but Ididn't really have a style, and obviously
I couldn't wear it because we werein uniform anyway. So I think that
transition period was kind of crazy.And I always talk about this, that
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that middle school or that junior high, it's such a crucial point in your
life. It's just I don't know, I just feel like that was when
I was most insecure. That waswhen like you know, puberty's kicking in.
You don't really know your identity yetduring that time that was I didn't
really like those years of my schoolyears. I would probably have to say
middle school is the time that Ididn't really like at all. I'll pick
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you back on that because eighth gradeis when I remember start getting bullied.
Yeah, I mean it's that it'sgrowing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and and then you start thinking,oh wait, these are not cool.
I thought these were cool, butyou start getting bullied and then that so
ninth grade that's when you were likeyou want all the name brand shit,
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right, I'm telling Mom's like,hey I need this. Luckily, the
swap meat carried the Nikes, andyou're like, yeah, anything with a
swosh on it, Like was ita real swoosh? Yeah, who knows,
but hey, it had a swooshon it, and you got it
the swap meat. From what Iremember, it was just like it was
real but maybe like a cheaper shoe. Yeah, but again, now you're
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just buying the name brand. Youstill. To me, ninth grade,
I didn't really have a style yet, Okay. I was just copying whatever
you saw, like the cool kidswearing or whatever. You like what you
saw, Yeah, whatever your friendswere wearing, Like, yeah, I'll
get those ray on silk shirts too. That was big during my years,
the starter jackets with the team.I remember having a Philadelphia Eagles one.
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But yeah, I didn't start theputting the fit together there. You know
the classic image of putting it onyour bid. Yeah, yeah, the
top, the shorts, whatever you'regonna wear, the shoes, and then
you just look stepped back a coupleof feet, looked at it. That's
the one. That's the one.And then But I don't know about you.
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I think I don't if I remembercorrectly, I would only have like
two new fits and then you wouldhave to recycle like all your older stuff.
Yeah. I didn't get that mucheither, because especially during that time
going into high school, I startedliking, you know, the brand stuff,
so I got a little bit moreexpensive. So, you know,
the budget wasn't as as much.I couldn't get so much for the budget.
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So yeah, i'd get just likea few fits and then maybe accumulate
during the year, maybe during Christmas. I would ask for some more clothes.
During that time, but yeah,man, that that was the time
that you start caring about your looks, your fit, your shoes. I
know, I was really big onky Swiss during that era. The classics.
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Yeah, that was also during anera which sucked because we weren't during
it, weren't at school, butI was. My era of high school
was during the time of like throwbackjerseys being big, and the matching cap
and the matching shirt and the logosall over the cap and the logos on
the jeans and the Air Force oneslike that was my era, and you
couldn't wear a lot of that ship. I was just about to say,
was that allowed? No, thatwas not allowed. So it sucked that
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I was not able. But likeout of school or even at school dances
where they didn't really care what wewore, I would bust out, you
know, the throwback jersey or whatever. But you just brought back school dances.
Yeah. Fun fact. I neverwent to school dance until my first
one was probably junior prom. Okay, but you went to prom. I
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went to prom. But the dances, there was dances in junior high.
Yeah, there was dances, youknow, in tenth grade and just like
little ones. That's the classic onesat the gym. Yeah, yeah,
like we I remember when going toBullard, we used to have like a
maybe a dance maybe that first fewweeks. It was kind of like a
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welcome dance to kind of like hey, you know, school started back up.
That was like the the the Falldance, I guess. And then
there was another dance we would calllike the Army dance, which was cool
because everyone were a camo yes,and those type of dances, like the
regular ones. I didn't go toany of those, so I went to
all those, but the ones wereit was like a couple like sadis or
formal. I never went to thosebecause of course my anxiety never wanted me
(08:24):
to, never allowed me to asksomebody to go. But the other dances
were fun. I would go,of course. They would just like kind
of stand on the sidelines, notreally doing much with friends. Yeah,
I want my friends, and wewould kind of like dance among ourselves,
meaning like we because we were intolike dancing, like you know, pop
locking all that type of stuff,so we would kind of do that and
maybe like dance with you know,not like a battle dance, but you
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kind of dancing within a circle.With all your friends. But yeah,
I never I never even did prommy senior year or anything. You didn't
know I didn't. I didn't goto no formal. I didn't go to
no prom just because I didn't asknobody. Yeah, during those times is
when my fear of, like Ican't talk to girls. Yeah, so
you still ask somebody no, never, and how'd you go to form?
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The well? That was eleventh grade? I was, you know, I
think you know, I was onthe football team, and you know,
I think that one was a littleeasier, a little yeah, you know.
And eleven the grade, that's whenyou know, the less fear of
like going up to girls for sure. Okay, but just I'm just mostly
thinking remembering junior high school, thosedances you're talking about, the sadies the
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well, why didn't you go tothe fear of like like I don't have
a date. I never went withfriends, Like I never had the group
of friends that would say, hey, this is the plan, all of
us at the dance. Okay,see that's how we would roll. I
never had those kind of friends.Everybody squeezing in the car and then we
rolled up to the dance. Butyeah, I didn't do any of the
couple dances because my anxiety didn't allowme to ask a girl during that time
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you were so I was junior high, yours will. It was called middle
school already seventh and eighth grade.Yeah, it was a school for just
those two grades. Yeah, whatfor example? I mean, I remember
being in band and junior high.Did you do anything in middle school?
So in middle school I actually playedI played basketball, and oh yeah that
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was it because they didn't have likefootball or soccer during that time. I
was playing soccer competitive league outside ofschool. But I was playing basketball only
in middle school and I didn't reallydo much with that. I'm not gonna
go into this story because I knowthere's a podcast episode with this full story.
But in junior high when I wasin when I joined band. I've
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never played drums before, never inmy life. But where you start is
there's three levels, beginning, intermediate, and marching band. Marching band was
like the top level. That's,you know, the highest that you want
to be at, that's the goal. But in junior high, I just
had to go to I had togo to beginning band because it's my first
time ever playing drums. And thatmovie drum line with Nick Cannon is basically
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my junior high story really is becauseyou learn how to read notes. But
it's so simple because you're in thebeginning band and I understood it, like
I understood it quickly. You justgot you just understood music. Yeah.
And then and then they would,you know, play something and I would
copy it, like I could easilyplay it on the drums easily. So
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from beginning band, they moved mestraight to marching band and I was in
junior high. That was like mybig thing. I was a drummer in
marching band. Not knowing the noteswere way more difficult. So I would
just ask my bandmates, just tellme how this goes, yeah, and
I'll just copy it, just likethe movie. So you didn't know how
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to read music like how Nick cando it? Great? Yeah, I
knew, I understood it. Ijust when you're in marching band. It
was Yeah, it was complicated stuff, but that, yeah, that was
like a highlight from my junior high. Now during that time, you don't
perform at games, do you right? Oh no, we we did.
We did parade that did. Wegot to do Disneyland that I've actually been
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to Disneyland where I've seen like studentscome in to perform. We got to
do that. And but ninth gradeis when I started my athletic side.
Okay, ninth grade we had afootball junior high football team. Okay,
so a fun fact of my ninthgrade football team. We went ah and
nine. We didn't win one game. We did not win one game.
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So it was just a team ofninth graders, all ninth graders. Okay,
so no eighth graders to be onthe team. No, only ninth
graders. You play other ninth gradersfor other junior high ninth graders yet,
so yeah, we it was this. Like I said, ninth grade was
my first time being on an actualfootball team, organized football team, and
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I didn't know what I was doing. But I was a starter. Yeah,
I was like fast enough, bigenough, strong enough, but we
just did not win a game.Fast forward to high school. I ended
up we ended up winning like thechampionship where we went underfeed and all that
stuff. But so when you gotinto high school, you played all three
years, all three years, andit kind of goes into the whole back
to school thing. When you're playingfootball in high school, that's like right
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away, right right when you start, when you go back to school,
it's football season. Yeah, anddon't you even practice a little bit before
even school starts. So I thinkgoing back to school for the first day
in high school was always a highlightbecause you always got to wear your athletic
gear. Did you do that thingwhere you know, uh, you're playing
like a home game and then agirl would wear like you're away jersey that
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Yeah, one of the cheerleaders waswearing yeah, my my jackets or whatever.
But but the weird thing is Iwas like a big guy, so
it was like super big on herbecause she was like super small. Warm
though, this give me school inthe stadium. Yeah, we we did
that. But back to school inhigh school was always fun because people looked
up to the football players the classalways it's always the biggest sport. And
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it's like you said, as soonas you get on campus, it's like
already football season. Friday nights isalways a big thing. When I got
into high school, then I wasable to play soccer. I had played
soccer my entire life competitively, butthen when I got into high school,
I was able to play for myhigh school team. That was a lot
of fun playing high school soccer.That's the only thing I did Outside of
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that. I was in one clubmy senior year. It was called Hip
Hop Nation, which was cool.It was basically like a lot of dancers.
One of our homies was like aturntable list too, And towards the
end of the school year on mysenior year, we actually like performed in
front of the Kroad my boys tohob was scratching on the turntables and my
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boy Greg and my boy Adam,we were all like dancing and we put
on a little dance routine. Itwas It was fun. That was kind
of like the only thing that Idid. And when I did that,
I had looked back and wish thatI had did more in high school,
like joining other clubs or just beingpart of things. If I could redo
it, I would probably tell myselfto do more. But that goes back
to the whole anxiety thing, right. I didn't really. I was just
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too nervous to sign up for stufffor being extra curricular activities. Yeah,
were you in any clubs or anythinglike that? My cousins and I started
the Asia, the very first Asianclub in our high school. Okay,
there was never because you know,there was the Black Student Union BSU.
Yeah, there was Metcha. Idon't know what the Mexican Club was called
for. You guys had one,but m E C h A. Okay,
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uh, I forget what it stoodfor Chicano and was was it the
Chicano No? How did think?I don't know, I don't, Yeah,
but there's called Metcha, and Ithink that was it. Those were
the two big like nationality clubs.And my cousins and I were like,
let's start an Asian club and westarted one. We found our we found
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the one Asian teacher to be ouryeah, our supervisors, supervisor of some
sort. But it was fun,like we did not know what we were
doing, but we just started it. We held meetings, we did talent
shows, We were part of youknow, things that were that were happening
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in schools. Fundraisers. I rememberwe were. We were selling like Asian
food. We I remember putting outlike a table and every kid bought their
moms like dish and we would havelike you know, would sell it as
the lunch. And that was likeour fundraiser. And if I'm not mistaken,
I think that club uh is stillexisting to this day. It's called
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ASU Asian Students School. Yeah,I think it is, And we were
the start. We started that likea plaque over there something like that.
How I wanted to get to this. How was lunch? What was lunch
time in school for you? Soin high school it was just always chilling,
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hanging out with with our friends.We had like a certain area on
the quad where we all hung out, right, Like everybody's had that area
and everyone just went there. Sothat was my vibe in high school.
And we would just sit there andjoke and clown on each other the entire
time. That's all we did.Like I just remember every lunch, were
just laughing the entire time. AndI know senior year we were able to
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go off campus, not all years, but only senior year. And even
then we didn't really go off thatmuch because about time you you know,
get off campus order your food,it was like already time to come back
to class. And to me,I wanted to hang out with friends and
chill. I didn't give a fuckabout going off campus to eat. Some
people just thought it was like thebiggest thing, like, oh my god,
we can leave school and go eatsomewhere, And to me, it
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was never that big a deal,Like, Okay, I could do that
when I get off of school.It wasn't a big deal. But I
don't know, some people just likeneeded to get off campus right away,
and I just thought that was littledramatic for some reason, like relax what
I'm saying. So we would justhang out on campus. Every once in
a while we would go, butfor the most part, we would just
clown each other, go to thesnack bar, grab some chips in a
drink. That's all you needed,and uh, what about you? Well,
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I'm that one guy that my senioryear, that's when I started driving.
I had a car my senior year, and so did my other friends.
And we would just mob like fourpeople in a car. Whoever as
a car, you take thirty minutesand you just we went to there.
There was two spots. It wasthe Carls Junior across the street or the
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Baker's Bakers is this Ie Burger joint, But those are the two spots that
we would drive to and it wouldbe a line of the homies cars just
like six cars lined up really justlike going out the parking lot and driving.
Yeah, That's another thing. There'sonly like a select number of places
that are close to the school,right, so when everybody goes there,
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it's so like the lines are heldalong and you're just like looking like,
oh, it's almost time to alreadyget back. We made it happen,
and we made it a fun thing. But you're right, you were rushed,
like everyone get back in their cars. Yeah yeah, but even before
that, were you bringing your lunch? Nah, you're buying it over there.
I mean, I just just likehow I am today, I just
don't really I'm not a big luncheater, so I would just grab a
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snack. So we had like wehad like a snack bar area, which
was cool. They would sell likeuh was it me? And it's like
pizza's little mini pizzas, or theywould have subway or chips. And then
of course like we had, youknow, so of machines everywhere. So
that's the type of stuff that Ineeded. I just always needed something to
keep me going. I was neverlike I need to just go order a
meal and have like a big gasslunch like everybody was so dramatic about.
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But yeah, elementary school, Iwas somebody that always brought their lunch,
so I never liked what they calledlike the hot lunch. I was always
a kid that brought my lunch toschool in elementary school. I remember the
that hot lunch thing where you uhtray and then you went down the line,
very prison style, right it was. But in the fucking chocolate milk.
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That's so weird to me? Wasthat weird because you're eating lunched with
chocolate milk? Like, give mea bottle of water or something. I
was all right with the chocolate.I mean, I'm a fan of chocolate
milk, but just looking back onit, that's so weird to give someone
here's your lunch in milk. Likewhat, Let me ask you this.
Did you did your school ever havewhere they looked for volunteers to serve?
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Yeah, that was always fun.You had to wear the hair and the
hair and give your friends a littleextra. Yeah. I did that a
lot because you got free food afterthat, and I think you got to
get out of class a little,yeah, to prepare and then maybe go
late to class a little bit.Man. That's crazy. How that's funny.
That's a memory because, like youknow, with the interest of owning
a restaurant. Yeah, dam whowould have thought? Yeah, man,
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I do remember volunteering a lot forthat. Yeah, so that was my
elementary school, the hot lunch thingjunior high. I remember in the beginning,
I would pack a lunch and itwould be that classic your whatever the
leftovers your mom made from either Asianfood and the cool whip man. But
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yeah, I remember again like gettingbullied. So then you would just be
like, mom, I need likefive bucks a week or foreting bully for
what you ate. Yes, yeahthat was that's that's so sad to me.
Man. I never really got Iguess I got. I guess if
you're getting made fun of your gettingbullied. But when I was going to
elementary school, and I would takemy own lunch from a very young age
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because my mom's just how she raisedus. I was always into spicy food
at a very young age. SoI would pack like tabasco sauce or a
hollow pino like stuff like that,or salsa in my lunch, and people
would make fun of me for that, like made me feel insecure about bringing
like spicy food. So I feelyou on that. And then I wasn't
big on lunch anyway. So onceyou got into middle school or junior high,
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for you guys, it wasn't youdidn't have to go to lunch.
You know how elementary school everyone linesup to go to lunch. It was
an option in middle school for us. And so when I found that out,
I was like, thank god,Like I hated eating lunch, everyone
rushed to lunch line. I'm like, now I'm chilling. I got my
drink and bag of chips, andI'm good to go. So I did
appreciate how you weren't forced to eatlunch anymore. I remember the when I
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would bring the Asian food, andI remember they would do the whole classic
ching chong chin like that. Yeahyeah, man. So it's crazy how
back then when you're a kid,because you know now like you don't give
a fuck, yeah a fuck whatanybody said, but you are back then
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it sucks. Yeah, you careabout what everybody said, care about what
everyone thinks. So that's when I'mlike, mom might need to buy my
lunch. So junior high, youI would get in line, and this
one was more of a cafeteria stop, meaning more of like a not a
restaurant, but you would pick certainthings okay. It wasn't. So you
would go to the register, gotyou. They would say, okay,
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all this adds up to five bucks. Okay, So it wasn't like a
school lunch where they're like, oh, these are the sides and sandwich.
You pick the drink. That's abetter vibe. Yeah. Yeah, so
I remember doing that, and Iremember one year, uh they had French
fries, and I remember that wasthe biggest thing. They got French fries
to choose from, so you couldpick French fries and put it on.
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To this day, I think themiddle school French fries had to be some
of the best French fries ever had. Like they people would get so crazy
and back to that thing where somepeople would work, you know, work
the work the lunch line. Iremember people being like, hey, I'm
working the lunch time. If y'allneed extra fries, I got you.
And then they would have the sauce, which is everyone always it's like secret
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sauce, but it's always what thousandIsland dressing or whatever. Any people would
eat that with their fries. Yeah, the fries middle school were hanging.
A side note, my mom wasactually a lunch lady at the school that
I went to, So there wastimes where we had like an early dismissal
day. I forgot what they calledthose days where it's like early dismissal I
don't know, half day or whatever. But my mom would still have to
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be at work, so I wouldgo to the lunch room until she was
done, and I would eat someonelike the leftover food that they had from
that day. So that was likealways cool, and I got to be
friends with some of the lunch ladiesduring that time. But yeah, man,
I mean, did you have acertain food that you can remember?
A lunch food that just slapped forsome reason? The fries, I remember,
that's a core memory, but thereis I do have another core memory.
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In high school, you would justget the French bread pizza, the
oval one, So that's what theywould serve as the pizza. And one
year they made an announcement I forgetwhat, I'll just say it's probably not
Shaky's, whether they're like Shaki's thenew sponsor of the pizza, and we
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started getting the mini boxes. Yeah, it was a brand one, and
I remember everyone going crazy for those, like finally some real pizza. Yeah,
that's that's a that's a memory.How about getting in trouble? Were
What kind of kid were you inschool? I mean, so obviously I
was like a good kid. Inever got bad grades. I remember distinctively
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in high school I was getting myfirst C. Yeah, that's how bad
it was. I got as andb's all the time, and it was
a C plus. It's like aseventy nine point nine, and the fucking
teacher didn't want to round me up. And I just remember being like,
my dad's gonna be mad at this, and it's a fucking seed. I
just remember like, just you knowwhat, I'm just gonna tell him before
the fucking report card even comes out. Let me, let me just get
it because I was about to goon break. Yeah, and I was
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just like, hey, I gota C plus. I was like,
but I'm gonna get it up.Don't worry. But I thought i'd let
you know. And he respected mefor for me telling him. But yeah,
I was a good student, man, I was. I always got
rewards or is it awards, perfect, perfect attendance all the time. I
got you know, four point erGPA. A lot of the times I
never got in trouble, like likeon campus doing dumb shit. So I
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never got suspended or anything like that, maybe since to the office a couple
of times for like dumb shits.To this day, I mean, i've
ever since, ever since I firstsaw it in elementary school. I don't
know if it was the first person, maybe Vanilla Ice the lines in the
eyebrows. So I remember when Istill saw the lines in my eye and
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if you know me, you know, to this day, I still do
that. And it was an elementaryschool and I just remember seeing it and
I was like, why is thatso cool to me? And I remember
my dad was like, yeah,if you want to do what I could
do it for you. So Iused to put lines in my eyebrows and
teachers hated me for that. Theywould send me to the Yeah, they'd
be like, you know, youneed to tell your mom to like she
needs to put makeup and cover that. Yeah. Yeah. And then another
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thing that I used to do becauseagain I see shit and I think it's
cool. You know, like footballplayers, they were their number on their
chain. Yep, I had that, and so okay, so yeah that
too, right, So so Iwas number eight growing up to this day.
That's still my favorite number and itwas my soccer number, and so
I had like a chain with likean eight, and they would send me
to the office like, oh,that's gang related, like eight what They're
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like, yeah, that's gang Yeah. So I would get sent for like
dumb shit. There wasn't even myfault, you know what I'm saying.
But because the way I looked andI was into like the urban ship and
I was into like the hip hopculture, that they always judged me on
that. But it was funny becauseevery time my dad would get pissed and
you would come down like I'll bethere, and they would try to like,
you know, oh, he's doingthis, and my dad would be
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like, give me a favorite.Look up his academics right now. And
they pull up and they'd be like, see that perfect attendance. See those
straight a's like hauler at me whenhe gets like when he starts sucking up
in school. So I always lovedthat my dad like had my back in
that sense because he knew that Iwas a good person and a good student.
It's just I was being judged bythe way I looked, or maybe
some of the guys that I hungaround with. But at the end of
the day. I was still gettingshit done. I was good kid as
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well to studious a's and b's untilprobably my junior year, eleventh grade,
like I'm almost done, I'm gonnastart slacking. It's because you start more
interesting girls and yeah, man again, I played all the sports during eleventh
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on the popular side. No,I wouldn't think so there were popular kids.
I would I would see myself inthe middle. Okay, I was
somewhere in the I was a middleperson. I was right there. I
wasn't, you know, I wasn't. I mean, let's just do school
terms. There was always the nerdsand the geeks and a lot of stuff,
which you know, I was aband geek, but I was at
like a hidden like you know.That's what I would always say, is
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I played the drums, right,I'm not like on the flute or something.
But I was always in the middle. I wasn't the super popular ones,
but I hung out with them.I had good friends. But yeah,
my junior and senior years when Istarted slacking, start getting seized.
I think I had one d atone time. My parents were like tripping
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out on me. But yeah,I didn't get in trouble because I don't
know if this happened in your school. You would always make friends with the
security guard. Yeah, always hadthe security guard homies. And then also
in my senior year, I hadthose birthdays where I turned eighteen my senior
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year, and you could sign yourselfout. So I remember doing that a
lot for no reason. I wasalready driving, So you would just go
to the office, show your IDand say, yeah, I'm signing myself
out, and I would just leavefor no reason, just because I could.
Just like how I said with thelunch situation, when did you start
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did you start driving? Or whendid you have a car right away?
In high school? What maybe liketenth grade of senior years when I got
my car, Conda Civic hatchback,the cheapest model fifth that stereotype even more.
I mean during that time that wasthat was the racing scene was the
biggest thing. But my car wasYes, that's the kind of car people
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would soup up. My car wasstock. It was just it wasn't lowered.
It was it was pretty pathetic.Crazy fast forward to to my high
school era, that's when Fast andthe Furious came out, I think maybe
a year prior, and so thatwas like the craze of like the hot
imports shit. Everyone was driving youknow Accuras and Hondas and Civics and ship
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and so I actually started driving inMan pretty early, like I got my
you know, permit as soon asyou could. I got my license as
soon as you could. Like myparents were on top of it, so
I started driving one of their carsin maybe middle of sophomore year. And
I got my car junior year,which, of course, during that fast
and furious era, had a blackHonda Chord. Had to fucking exhaust the
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whole fucking shit, right, AlthoughI didn't race because I didn't. I
wasn't. I didn't like it forracing. I just liked the look of
the car. So I had myblack Honda Chord and yeah, man,
it was dope during that era.But I went to Bullard and there's a
lot of rich kids, so theyhad cars that just shit it online.
But my group of friends we allrolled in those you know Accuris and Hondas
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and we would mob out with thefucking exhaust. Everybody hears, so that
was like a fun time. Thisis the reason why I didn't get my
license till my senior year. Doyou remember when you were sixteen seventeen,
that's when you could start. Therewas a process, but when you turned
eighteen, you could just take thetest, yeah and get it. So
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I think I remember my parents werelike, just wait till you're eighteen,
and I was okay with it becauseI didn't want to go through the anxiety
of the process of yeah, becauseit is a process. Yeah, if
you're sixteen seventeen, it's a wholeI had to go to go to school,
yes, yeah, I was likemaybe like a week. My parents
paid for that. That was offcamp. That was a lot of money.
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And then you pay to like takethe permit test, and I think
i'd felt the first time, butthen I passed, and then you have
your permit tests or where you canlike drive, but you still have to
have like an adult with you orsomething. It was like weird rules,
right, and then like every sixmonths, like the rules got a little
lighter, and then you take yourdriver's tests and I don't know it,
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and then you can't like drive withsomeone under eighteen in your car for a
while. But yeah, I wentthrough that whole process that you're talking about.
So that's what my parents were like, just wait till you're eighteen.
You don't have to do any ofthat. And I was like, okay,
yes, and it all worked out. A funny story about getting my
first car going into my senior yearis do you know how to drive stick?
A stick shift for this day?No? Okay? So my dad
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and I go get my car.We pick it out, red Honda Civic
hatchback stock and I'm like, it'san automatic, right, and my dad's
like, no, it's a stickand I'll like you, no, no,
it can't be. I don't knowhow. He's all, well,
don't learn today, You're gonna learnday, and he forced me to drive
it home and I did not knowhow to drive out so many times,
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so many times. But in retrospectit was a good thing because I could
drive any car. During that timethere was a lot of stick shifts.
Yeah, and it was popular.Yeah, so yeah, I actually enjoyed
it because you were driving. Yeah. I missed driving stick shift kind of
gave you something to do, Iguess, yeah, But that that was
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my first car story of going intomy senior year. Did you date during
high school? No I or anything, So I didn't know that that's what
it was like you were supposed tolike just date one person. But there
was a girl that I started talkingto during my senior year and now looking
back at it, oh man,I think we were together. But during
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that time, ye uh put atitle on it. We were never official.
I didn't know that that's what wewere to do. But that's who
I would be with at school.That's who wore my jersey and was like
we went to like prom with andstuff or no, I didn't. No,
I didn't go to prom with Liketo me, she was just my
friend, but a friend that Iwould like go kiss, you know,
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kiss kiss goodbye in front of herhouse and we walked each other home or
whatever. Yeah, but so no, I didn't really date. But I
think I was into girls like letme go meet and try to like meet
as many girls, but there wasone particular girl that I would always just
hang out with. Yeah, Imean I always use this and maybe this
was my reason. Maybe it wasjust my excuse, but I was just
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always like I'm just too much intomy academics and sports that I just felt
like I didn't really have time toor I didn't care. I guess I
just didn't care too honestly. Butyeah, I mean there were still girls
that like I flirted with or likewhenn't that mind dating? But I just
never just did it. I don'tknow if this is a fact. I'm
trying to put my mind back tothat mode of high school. I never
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knew, like I'm like I said, I'm just guessing I didn't. I
wasn't sure the whole process of youhaving a girlfriend, Like to me,
that didn't mean like to me,it didn't compute that oh like go look
for go be with a girlfriend.You would have friends like, oh,
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man their boyfriend and girlfriend. Buton my end, I'm like, like
it do this. It wasn't areality like oh wait, am I supposed
to look for a girl? ButI would just I would like to hang
out with girls, like we hadto hang out and hang out. But
yeah, I didn't have the conceptof relationship in high school. Yeah,
I mean, I guess that wasthe same way. Like again, I
hung out with girls. I was. I was actually one of those dudes
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that kind of was cool with everybody, you know how you talk about like
we were kind of in the middle. Yeah, like I talked to the
popular kids, but I also talkingto their kids. Man, Like even
the kids that were you know howthey always say, hey, you should
just go talk to that quiet kid. I was that dude to talk to
the quiet kid. Man. Iwas cool with everybody. I was super
cool with like the foreign exchange studentsthat came in. I always thought that
was cool. I would ask themquestions about their country. So I was
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never I was never like the bully, you know what I'm saying. I
was always the one like, letme talk to the kids same they don't.
They don't get talked to. Andalready hang out with like the white
dudes. I'll hang out with theblack dudes and mexic Like. I was
cool with every the Asian dudes.And I think I think that's a honestly
helped me in life because to thisday, like everybody's like always cool with
me, girls, guys, everybody, because I've always been that person just
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opened to everybody. It's wild thatI still remember a guy's name. His
name is Portericay Porcay. He wasa stutterer. He had like a heavy
stutter and he wouldn't get made funof. And I befriended him and I
was like, ye know, wewere hanging bro. Yeah, yeah,
I remember, just like I'm goingto befriend you. Yeah, just because
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I saw people making fun of them. Yeah, so I was like the
same way. But you're but you'reright, I hung out with everyone.
There's a good balance, right,especially like when you're in sports, then
you really get to kind of morepeople. Yeah, yep, you know
we had our best friends. Youknow, my god J c McKee.
That was he lived like a fewblocks away from me and we just go
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hang out. That was like myhigh school best friend. I think I
liked hanging out with him because hewas like a ladies man. He all
the girls were always around you like, oh cool, it's gonna make it
easier for me. He was likehe was the classic, like blonde hair,
blue eye. Yeah, you know, he was our quarterback in junior
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high and then uh, you knowwe played We played all the sports together.
But he's the one that taught mehow to play baseball. Okay,
so but yeah, I enjoyed hangingout with him, but he became my
best friend. But yeah, Ithink it's because you got so many girls
hanging out with you, so Iwant to hang out with this guy.
Did you guys have a sober grador end of the year trip or anything
(37:59):
like that. Oh man, Ithink we did, but I don't even
remember going. Or I think wedid, but I didn't go. Okay,
we did. Add I think itwas Disneyland during my year, but
I didn't end up going. Ohwait, grad night is that the same?
Oh? Yeah, we had gradnight? Yea. I was like
two, So sober grad is somethingwe did, like in town. And
then there was a grad night.Yeah we didn't. We didn't do that.
(38:21):
It was just grad night. Andwhere was that Disneyland? Oh Disneyland?
Okay, yea, Yeah, Iremember enjoying that. I was with
a group of friends. That thatwas a fun night. Yeah. Fast
forward to me going into radio too. Let's see through two to three years
later, I was in radio.Isn't crazy? And I was DJing grad
(38:43):
nights. Wow, that's the samefor me. I was in high school
and then a year or later I'min radio. That's so wild to me.
Yeah, wow, way to go, like this has basically been my
my job my entire life. Andyou're too right. I mean, I
mean, you know, in highschool, I had my we talked about
and we talked about my fucking funeralhome that I worked at. But yeah,
(39:05):
I mean for the most part.Yeah, radio has been our career
from the get We've been blessed.Yeah, twenty like basically we're reaching twenty
years. I've reached twenty years.Yeah, I'm getting there. You're getting
there. And yeah, so man, how crazy our life is from from
school to now school to now.Yeah. So with that being said,
back to school season, shout outto everybody returning to school, whether that's
(39:29):
you know, high school, college, elementary, middle school, junior high
or whatever. Yeah, we didn'teven get to the college. Yeah,
I mean, do we want totouch on it? And we might have
to say that I wasn't. Iwasn't a big college student. College was
not for me. I tried.I even tried going to Davry. Yeah,
Davry Institute was what are those collegescalled the trade school the trade schools
(39:50):
where you just learned about our computersand stuff. And then I all,
I already started having interest in radio, So I started majoring in communications with
a broadcasting thing. And I justremember in college, I just I could
not I don't know if it wasmy add but I just could not sit
(40:13):
there through a class, say,man, I just couldn't we almost have
the same like schooling experience because Idid the same I mean I do.
I did some community college shout outFresno City College out here, and then
I got into Fresno State and Idid it, and I just I didn't
care anymore. At least I wasduring the time where I started to get
into radio and I was doing parttime stuff and it was just like,
(40:35):
man, I could be a fulltime or now, but I didn't really
want to. But I still neededsome some classes to finish college. And
I'm like, yeah, but I'mlike not even caring. I'm even like
failing classes to waste of money.I'm checked out at this point because I
know what I really want to do. Speaking of money, I wanted to
ask you that just because you know, I never went to state. Yea,
there's no state you know sort ofthing. What was the financial situation
(40:58):
were you paying? Like, okay, so and so I was hell of
good in high school. I hadgrants to take care of my ride.
Yeah yeah, so my ride wastaken care of all right. Yeah yeah,
so it was almost worth giving ita shot. Yeah yeah. So
you know, like I had youknow, FAFTSA shit paid for my you
know, school at City College,and then my grants were taking care of
my state college. And uh butI was wasting a lot of money on
(41:20):
books and you know, time andenergy and just didn't want to be there.
And when the opportunity came for meto be a full on on air
personality and I wanted that's really whereI wanted to invest my time and energy,
I just I just dropped out andI was like, I'm over this,
you know what I'm saying, yeah, real quick with mine same mine
was all was community colleges. Yeah, so Chafee Community College was my first
(41:45):
school. And of course it's itwas so hard for me to make friends
because you had your friends already.Hardly anyone was ever in class. There's
maybe like five people in a class. This is definitely a different vibe man.
Yeah. So it's yeah, andyou're trying to get that feeling of
school, yeah, of high school, but it was it just wasn't And
so you were I'm assuming you werelike in town, right, yeah.
(42:06):
Yeah, see a lot I knowother people that really got that college experience
by going to another city, sleepingin dorms. I mean, I live
out here, so I was.I mean it was easy obviously didn't have
to pay for any of that stuff, but it just never felt like that
college experience, like, uh,kind of just still going to school and
I don't really want to be here, and I have a choice not to
be here, so I took it. I even did a thing where I
(42:27):
started dating somebody in college, butshe lived far away, okay, and
she lived in Pasadena, which wasa good forty five minutes away from where
I was living, and I transferredschools just so I was that guy.
But that school also had like aradio broadcasting department, and so I took
those classes, just those classes,and I remember understanding everything they were teaching.
(42:51):
I understood it, and to thepoint where the teachers were always using
me as the guy that John,can you come up here the class show
the class how to do this demonstrator? Yeah, I just understood radio.
And then fast forward to me winningthat contest during my college years in Pasadena
and me leaving because I got thejob I wanted. Yeah, it's like,
(43:13):
why this is why I'm going toschool for it, but I already
got the job selling. I don'tknow if that's a good mentality. But
that was my mentality, Like thiswas my goal. Yeah, why am
I still going to school to reachthe goal that I already have. That
was pretty much my mentality. Thatwas like, yes, I guess again,
whatever works for your life. Youknow what I'm saying. That's I'm
not here to tell you what youshould and shouldn't do, but whatever works
(43:35):
for your life, do that.This is what worked for my life.
I'll end with that. There itis until next time. This could give
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