November 14, 2025 • 51 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Episode will discuss the reasons we now know that our
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loved ones have survived physical doubt and so will we.
Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. On our episode today,
I want to play a few words from a grandmother
recalling her heavenly visit during an nd that she had
as a young woman. Also, this past Friday, on our
trance medium demonstration with Scott Milligan, someone asked a question
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about dealing with the pain of grief and the special
message that came back from our friend mister Eric and Spirit. Well,
it really touched my heart and I wanted to share
it with you. But before you hear those, I want
you to hear a few words from my friend Lisa Lenuski,
longtime listener of the show, whose daughter Amber is in Spirit.
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I've been encouraging Lisa and she just published the book
God Winks and Amber Waves, a Mother's Transformative Journey through Grief,
love and Purpose. Her book contains signs from her daughter
God Winks, help through grief, words to communicate with your
loved ones, but most especially her journey that I know
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would make a difference with your journey. Here's a few
words from a conversation I just had with Lisa.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
So we come from a military family. My husband and
I were high school sweethearts. We got married in college
and we started off traveling the world with his military career.
He was a career officer. It was wonderful, very very
normal family. I have two children, my oldest my Amber.
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The love of my life and my first born. She
died in twenty fourteen and sent our very normal family
in spirals. The story that I put into a book
is not so much about Amber, although there's a lot
about what Amber is doing now, not too much about
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what she did while she was here with me. But
her death sent me on an incredible search, and the
universe rewarded every little bit of that search. Things started
on the very very first day when we found out
from the police that our daughter's body had been found.
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We were at someone else's home at the time. It
was just my husband and I. We were house sitting,
pet sitting and standing in the kitchen at the end
of November. While we are literally I don't know how,
we were still on our feet. My husband is looking
over my shoulder out the kitchen window, and a red
tailed hawk came down and sat right on a stone
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wall and just stared in the kitchen window at us. Now,
I didn't really understand anything about birds at the time.
My husband was just absolutely mesmerized, and he was saying, like.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
And he takes his phone out of his back pope
and takes a photo of this, And I am not
happy about that. At this moment, I'm looking at him
like he's lost his marbles. And he said to me,
do you know how unusual that is? And I said, no,
I don't know anything about He said, I've never seen it.
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He was in his fiftieth time. I've never seen it.
I've never seen a bird come down a red tail
talk come down like that. Okay, Well it resonated with
him and made him feel good for a second. I
didn't write it down at the time. Obviously I didn't
know anything about that. But that same day, when we
were waiting for all of the family to come back
because they were all on vacation for the holidays and
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were coming back after they got the news, we were
alone in the house. My husband couldn't lay down, He
just wasn't able to lay into the bed yet, and
I was the all by myself, and I was awakened
that night by three really distinct and hard knocks that
were coming from above my head. It actually sounded like
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it was coming from outside of the house, but it
was really distinct, and it was just three really hard knocks,
and I knew that it was something. I didn't know
what it was, but I was like, I've never heard
this before. This is crazy. So I kind of talked
to the air, is that you, like, I'd never even
heard of death knock? Never researched it later on, but
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I never heard it. The following night, I went over
to my sister's home. The rest of the family had come.
I needed to kind of get away. I went over
to my sister's home, where my mom lived at the time,
and I spent the night with my mom in bed,
and the exact same thing happened in the middle of
the night, only three knocks. I acknowledged it, and I said,
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I really think that's you, and that's a little bit
intimidating at night like this. I know it's you. You
don't have to do it anymore. And it's never ever
happened again, no matter where I've been, And it wasn't
just the knocks. So I don't want to say that
every little sign or every little thing that happened. It's
the feeling that you get when it happens and you
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just know. That's really the only way I can explain it.
It's just a feeling that you get that I know
that this is not some random thing that's happening. So
the first time that I had a phone reading with Suzanne,
I want to say, I think it was twenty eighteen.
I was sick at the time. We were just doing
a zoom meeting just like this, and she was giving
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this evidence. I was in Florida, my husband was in Maine,
so the three of us kind of zoomed together and
she was giving us all this evidence and everything was
so very spot on, and she really had the essence
of who my daughter was and who I believe she
still is because she still has so much of that
sassy personality. If you tell a mother your daughter was
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really sassy, that either fits or it doesn't. You know,
if your daughter is a very quiet, little bookworm or
something like that, that doesn't fit. And you could be funny,
but not sassy. Was sassy. And so that word that
she used, and the way that she described her and
some of the experiences that she said that she had,
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all of it was accurate. And we were acquaintances at
the time. We weren't friends, and she's not looking things
up about me. But then she started talking about my
daughter's love for frogs, and Amber was a girly girl.
She was not in the dirt. She was not into frogs,
and she said, oh my gosh, she has the frogs
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on the bed and the frog's on the shelf. And
I'm like, no, no, that's not my daughter. And she said, oh, well,
I can't go back on that because I am seeing
frogs everywhere. I don't know, maybe it's a nickname for
somebody or whatever. All these great things were coming and
my crazy mind was thinking, you got that all wrong.
We ended things after that. The next day she emailed
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me and she said, I'm sorry about yesterday, and I
want to just give you a little bit of clarify.
The frog wasn't for you, And she said, occasionally she
has an interloper who comes into a reading, but it's
not meant for the person she's sitting with. At the time,
she didn't give me very much information other than that
it was a woman who had asked to hear from
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her beloved who had died in a traffic accident, and
the day of my reading was his first anniversary and
she had asked to hear from him. And she didn't
give me any more information about the woman, about anything
that happened. Nothing. So this was in July, now months
months later, It's the next year. It's March, and I'm
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online and I'm looking in a newsletter that I received weekly,
the Zamat Report, which is also referenced in my book.
I was looking on there and I saw there was
a little video on there of a woman who claimed
to be studying under Susanne Geeseman and her mediumship skills
were happening really fast for her. And I turned it
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on and I watched it and I listened to her,
and all of a sudden, goosebumps from head to toe.
I'm like, oh my god, this is the woman who's
beloved was in the accident, and I just know it's
her the way that I know it is. She referred
to him as Froggy, and she talked about how he
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had died the year before. Now it's almost two years
and I'm just putting all this together, and I'm thinking,
do I reach out to this person or is she
going to think I'm a nut? So that's exactly what
I did. I found her on social media and I
just wrote a quick note and said, I am not
a nut, but I just watched this and I'm just wondering,
did your fiance die in July of twenty seventeen, and
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she wrote back to me and she's like, are you
the lady that my froggy came to? She said that
Suzanne had explained it to her that she had asked
for known as Scott, she had asked him to please
come to Suzanne on his first anniversary, just so that
she'd has some consolation, and he did, but she was
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talking to me at the time, not her, so he came.
And then shortly after that, Cheryl and I started sharing
all kinds of stories about our loved ones. And I
have seen my daughter in video cursing her lips and
throwing me a kiss. I had asked for the wink
because I did it one time when I was doing
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something with Sonya, and Sonya kept saying, why do you
want her to blink at you?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
And I said, I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I want her to wink at me. I keep telling
her I want her to wink at me, and I
actually got to see it in video. I got to
see her winking in video. I got to see her
kissing in video. I've got to see her looking as
a toddler. With photos that once I supplied them to Sonia,
she was just like, oh my gosh, like that's pretty incredible.
She's only three. Knowing this pictures fantastic area of study.
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These lessons are horribly painful, and some of the lessons
that we're learning through grief, we've never experienced them before,
and other people are experiencing things that we've never experienced before.
But I don't believe that there's anything that's been given
to us here that we can't handle. And that's what
I want to do with the rest of my time
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here is I want to make a difference. And I
feel like I've been doing more in the last ten
years to make a difference than I did in the
first fifty plus. And I've lived and I loved, and
I was a very good and kind person. But these
lessons that we live after what we think is the
worst thing that could possibly happen bodily death, the person
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is gone, gone forever. Well, if you believe that the
person is gone forever, you still have to figure out
how to live without them. So why not just investigate
a little bit, because one, don't you know that they're
not gone forever, you're still going to live without them,
that you're going to live very differently now when Lisa
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talks about seeing Amber. That's through what's called instrumental trans communication.
You may remember back on episode one hearing the story
of Sonya Rinaldi and we made that film that's on
my website called Renaldi. With many of her experiments, Lisa
is a giver. She has donated five or six years
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working by Sonya Andaldi's side. With all these experiments with parents,
she's also become a certified grief educator. She's looking for
stories your godwinks evidence from your loved ones, and she's
just a fantastic down to earth person. To contact Lisa,
visit Lisa Lanuski dot com or you can email me
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Sandra Champlain at Gmail and I can put you in
touch with Lisa. Well, let's go to the break and
when we come back, you'll meet a now grandma who
talks of her near death experience and a surprise visit
from her grandson in the afterlife. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
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AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sandra Champlain. Next, we have a story from Jackie.
It's a powerful account to what happened to her during
a time she was incredibly vulnerable, and how that experience,
though initially dismissed by others, planted a seed of knowing
that completely changed her perspective on life and death. Jackie's
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journey reminds us that sometimes the most profound evidence comes
not from dramatic lights or tunnels, but from quiet moments
of peace and recognition.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
This was in nineteen eighty six, in April that this
event happened to me. At that time, I was having
some physical problems, and I was scheduled to have a
surgery in the Women's hospital in Lake Charles, Louisiana, where
I was living at the time. Sometime during the procedure,
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I had this experience happen to me.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Jackie explains that unlike many stories we hear, her experience
didn't start with bright lights or moving down a tunnel.
It was simpler, yet just as profound.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
I just came to conscious in my mind in this
big room, and this room was circular, and all around
the walls of this circle were these You could tell
they were people, they were images, but I could not
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make out anyone's faces.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
They were just images. The only exceptions.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Were and it was right on my left side there
was my maternal grandmother and I could see her face
and make out that was her, and standing beside her
was my children's father.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
That's Jackie's ex husband, who had also passed.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I remember a thought I had, I wonder what he's
doing here in my whatever this is, but that left
me really quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I just like, yeah, of course he's here.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So in this space filled with indistinct figures, Jackie clearly
recognizes two specific people she knew who had died, her
grandmother and even her ex husband, but the main focus
was on someone else.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
The focus of this room, this round room, there was
this little platform. It was like maybe a few inches high,
and in the middle this platform was this big wooden
chair with arms, and in this chair was my dad,
who had passed away the Christmas before this, so that
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would have been Christmas time.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
And I remember that I felt so excited to see him,
and I walked over and I sat down on whatever
this little platform was, and he was sitting in this chair,
and I remember I laid my head down in his lap.
I just had just the greatest sense of peace. That
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I've ever experienced in my life.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And the experience wasn't just visual or emotional. It included specific,
familiar sensory details.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
The only color I could see was this old plaid
flannel shirt that he had on. There was reds and
blues and whites. Now, it was one of those things
like whoever does your law wants to throw it away,
but you insist that they have to keep washing it
so you can wear it. And this was how that
shirt was. And then there was a smell. There was
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a smell of like old spice. I just remember I
laid my head in his lap and I just said, Dad,
I'm so happy to see you, and I'm so happy
to be here. And he said, I'm happy to see
you too, honey, and he patted me on the head.
He said, but you have to know that this is
not your time and you can't stay.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You have to go back.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
And I remember that I said something like, oh, but
I'd rather stay here, I says, because this is so wonderful,
and he said, no, it's just not your time.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
And just like that, the peaceful reunion was over.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I don't remember leaving the room.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Then I remembered I could hear these voices of people saying,
miss Lundy, you need to wake up. And when I
came awake, I said, I.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Was in the most wonderful place.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And the nurses, of course, looked at me and said, oh,
miss Lending, that's just the drugs we gave you so
that the doctor could operate on you. So that happens
to everybody, you have some hallucination or something.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
This is such a common experience, isn't it. Someone has
the most real, most profound experience of their entire life,
and the first response they often get is dismissal. It
really does make people doubt their own experiences.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
So I just let it go. Although it stayed in
my head for a long time. I may have shared
it with someone I'm not sure, maybe with my sister
somewhere along the line, but I never actually ever heard
of NDEs. I had no knowledge of that until somewhere
along that line, pre pandemic, I met my friend Rob.
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Rob said something about NDEs and I was just fascinated
because I thought, I wonder if that's what happened to
me sometime over the years. I mentioned that to him
and he said, yes, most definitely.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But even before she had a name for it. Even
when the medical staff told her it was just a hallucination,
the feeling of that experience stayed with Jackie and began
to change her and give her some unexpected faith.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
I think that when I really accepted and had some
base understanding of what that was about, that it really
increased my faith because I got into recovery with a
belief that there was a God, but I had no
concept of how I could have any kind of a
relationship with a God. I always wondered because nobody would
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substantiate that it was real, and so I would sometimes
say it was just a reaction to drugs.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
It was just a hallucination. It wasn't real.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
But even when I couldn't get anyone to confirm that
it was real, it did change my faith for the better.
Felt absolutely real to me at the time, absolutely real.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Now I wanted to stay.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Because it was just the most peaceful place, the most
peaceful event I've ever experienced in my life. There was
no doubt, there was no fear, there was no sadness,
there was just nothing. It was joy, but it was
beyond joy, and I think that feeling probably is what
helped my faith the most is it. That was real
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to me, and I really from that point just said, yes,
there is something beyond what we put up with and endure.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And learn in this tough world.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
You know that there is a peaceful existence of some sort.
I started just feeling less fearful. And I was always fearful.
Someday I was going to die and that was it.
There was never ever going to be anything else. But
that experience gave me the aha, there really is something
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beautiful beyond this earthly life.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
So Jackie's experience laid a foundation of knowing for her,
and years later other experiences would build upon that foundation,
bringing comfort during other times of loss. She had another
brief dream like visit after her late husband Ron passed
away in two thousand and four, and it was.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
At night also, which made me think was just a dream,
because it was daytime in the dream and I was
outside and here comes Ron walking down the street into
my driveway, and the only thing he said to me.
I don't remember saying anything back to him. He says,
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I just came to make sure you were okay.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
That was it. Clearly, this was a short and sweet,
simple message, but a deeply comforting one for her, and
then much more recently, in twenty twenty one, he faced
another heartbreaking loss when her grandson Thomas died at just
twenty years old from a fentanyl overdose after struggling with addiction.
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This time, the visit was even more profound and brought
a surprising sense of peace.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
After he visited me about ten days after he passed,
I could feel a different kind of gratitude.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And this was at night.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
I was sleeping and I woke up, and I was
just so overwhelmed with that. I really did feel that,
beyond a dream, that Thomas had visited me. He was
just there and he said, Grandma, He said, it is
so wonderful here. None he was gone, but he wanted
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me to know how wonderful it was.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Hearing that her beloved grandson, Thomas, who had suffered so
much in his short life, was now in a wonderful
place brought Jackie an unexpected perspective.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
I've had more thinking about Thomas and the experience I
had in my years with him and his visitation to me,
instead of thinking why did this happen to happen to him?
And I never voiced this to my family because I'm
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not quite sure how my son would take this, but
I had this sense of gratitude that he did not
have to suffer anymore. And beyond that, I had this
sense of gratitude that his father and his mother and
his little sister no longer had to live a life
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that was controlled by Thomas's addiction. I got very grateful
for that. Because the morning after Thomas died, and I'm
sitting out on my son's back porch and we're drinking
our coffee watching the sun come up. I said to him,
I said, honey, did you get any sleep last night
at all? He says, Mom, it's the strangest thing. He said,
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I slept better than I have slept in years. And
I realized this morning when I woke up rested instead
of exhausted, that I had not slept with my hand
on my phone all night, waiting for the next Thomas trauma.
And he said, and I realized I had not done that.
He said, today is Thomas's first day of sobriety in heaven.
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And I said, yeah, honey, that's so true. So that
helped my faith when I could really know that this
young man that he knew he was okay. I mean,
my children's father, my grandmother and my father were older.
The fact that they were no longer here and that
they were in this place was not strange to me
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to say, because it's normal because of their age, where
Thomas was a young man who was twenty years old,
so it was not normal. But I got that piece
with that also and just really help my faith more.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Jackie's story shows us that these experiences really do build
on each other. Her Nde comforted her in the later
visitations from her husband and grandson, helped her faith and
her peace. And isn't that what this evidence is all
about for us, finding that inner certainty that love never
dies and even our deepest suffering can be met with
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understanding and grace from the other side. Will be right
back with some words on grief and how close our
loved ones are from a friend in the Afterlife. You're
listening to Shades of the Afterlife and the iHeartRadio and
Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to
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Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. There are three
things that keep me really connected to the reality of
the afterlife. Because I too am a human. I don't
think We're designed to remember the bigger picture twenty four
hours a day, seven days a week, that we are
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these immortal, divine souls having a human experience. I think
there is this game called life mostly painful. I understand that,
but it's an opportunity for our soul to learn and
to experience. But how do I stay plugged in? Well,
one of the biggest things is being right here with
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you each and every week doing my investigation, finding a
new topic or a new story for you, because I'm
hoping they keep you engaged and open minded about the
reality of the afterlife and that your loved ones are
still around. Of course, I hope to entertain you a
little bit too sometimes. One of the other things I
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love is our free Sunday gathering two pm at New
York time, every single Sunday going into our sixth year.
Now why this is important to me is it's inspirational
and empowering. Yes, but there's a medium demonstration in everyone,
and I'm blown away by the evidence that comes through
our mediums to people all over the world that there's
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no way they can know. Not general comments or evidence,
but really specific things that often move me to tears.
The third thing is. On many Fridays we offer what's
called in the Arms of Eternity. You can come for
free send distant healing to the world. But also it's
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a demonstration of trance mediumship, where medium Scott Milligan will
close his eye and after quite a while, another voice
comes to speak through him. For six years now, mister Eric,
who speaks through Scott, never misses a beat, never hesitates,
filled with love and compassion, can answer just about every
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question thrown at him about life, death, and afterlife. People
type their questions in the Q and A box on Zoom.
I'm the only one who can see them. Scott's eyes
are closed, and mister Eric not only can often know
the next question to be asked, but knows the person
who's going to ask it. It really helps me on
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a weekly basis, remember that we're all divine souls having
a human experience. This question was asked this past week
and it really hit a place in my heart that
I knew I had to share it with you. The
question was what advice can you give to people who,
despite trying their hardest, are still struggling with grief after
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two years. Here's mister Eric, Well.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Two years is still too short. You'll know, my friend,
the advice I would give you, which may mean nothing
to many, but may have something for you for as
you reminisce of your photographs on your devices as well
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as what was gathered through boxes. Remember the happier times,
my friend. But know that when you gaze upon this,
there is an arm around you. There is laughter all
around you, the gasp of breath and the sound of ah.
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Do you remember this? It may cause you to weep,
my friends, because you feel the tremendous love, but you
feel it as overwhelming grief. I have often said, and
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I may have to remind you all if it was
you who has come to our side of life, and
to you it has only been a brief moment. But
to those who are left behind, may years have passed
and you see them broken, or you see them stop living.
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What would you say back to them? What would be
your sage that you would give them? You would shout
in their ear, you would wave in their face, you
would embrace them, because that's exactly what your loved one
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is doing back to you now. They are trying to
remind you that only their pain has faded away. If
you are to travel they will travel with you. If
you are to place a drink out for them, they
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will sit in your company, even though that the glass
may still remain full. They are experiencing the generosity the
same when you place flowers, they receive that kindness. But
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as you stare upon the etchings on the stone, they
stare into your eyes and say, that is not me.
This is not where I stand or lay. I come
with you live, and through the music that you hear
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that reminds you of us, Through a sense of cologne
and perfume, you sense our presence because it causes memories
to come back. Holding on to the very thing that
brushed hair, It is not them, but it reminds you
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of them. If I could lend you of the sight
that I have, you will never question or weep again.
Your room that seems empty to you is full of
people that love you. Try to hold on to that,
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my friend. But also, even though we can give you
spiritual counseling, you must also as of someone in your
world that can help you to make sense. And this
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is why we always say it is a partnership between
our world and yours. We will look after your loved
one as long as your world looks after each other.
We have held on to our promise to you. Now
allow your world to fulfill that promise. That would be
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my advice to you to know that your loved one
stands with you, not with me, even though we look
after them. Our love permeates like perfume. They know they've
never left, but they are just too bright for your
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eyes to see at the moment. And that is why,
my friend, when you are in bed, you become aware
in your dreams you stand with them. But then you
are reminded when you wake. Let your life be the
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testament that you have known true love. But now live
your life. You have often liked seen the joy in
other people. If you see joy now, then it is
your loved one speaking with you. Live and I will
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live with you. Dance, I will dance with you. Sing
and I will sing badly with you. And I will
sit and I will walk, and I will rest with you.
This is a message for all of you. This is
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why your world is in deep need to now wake
up and see through the spiritual.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Eyes that our world is the reality, and your world
will join our.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
World through the journey of life. I will leave you
now with the blessings of all who gather at this time,
wipe away the tears of sadness, allow the clouds of
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confusion to fade, and know that we are tevered to
one another through the ecx of love, through the acts
of kindness. We will never let go. Even know that
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sometimes your world chooses to take care and sleep with ease,
and know that our world walks with you. Good day
to you, my friends.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
His words really mean a lot to me, and over
all these years he's become a good friend. I said
that sometimes Eric acts as a medium. Not too long ago,
our friend Ramona had a question and he answered it
whatever it was. But he also told her to buy
a pair of slippers for her feet that had a
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solid non skid coding on the bottom because a friend
in the spirit world saw her slip and fall. I
thought this was really weird because I asked the question
on behalf of Ramona and there was no sign anything
about slippers or her feet or her falling. Ramona left
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me a message after the sitting that her sister was
a foot doctor and just the day before she had
gone out to buy a new pair of slippers because
she had slipped and fallen wearing her old slippers. She
almost bought a pair that didn't have the non skid coating,
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but she thought better of herself and this was confirmation
from somebody in the spirit world, which Ramona believes. It's
one hundred percent her deceased sister who can see Ramona
in Germany and talk to Sandra in the United States
through a trance medium in England. When we get back
from the break, we'll take a look at being in
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communication with our loved one through the advice of evidential
medium Dominic Bogue. We'll be right back. You're listening to
Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Cost to
Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of
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the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and just a reminder, my
home base is we Don't Die dot Com. I mentioned
the Sunday gathering. It's one of the best ways I
stay connected. The next recording I'm going to play is
from Scottish medium Dominic Bogue. This past Sunday on our gathering,
I gave the reading about psychology professor doctor Matt McKay
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and how he communicates with his son and using automatic writing.
You can go back to episode two to nine to
hear that Dominic is a young medium who has been
demonstrating since he was a teenager, and I think he's
one of the best around. So enjoy his thoughts on
communicating with our own loved ones.
Speaker 8 (39:19):
Especially coming up for holidays, Christmas and New Year coming up.
That's one of the most challenges parts of the years,
is when we miss our loved ones just that little
bit more. And a lot of people, especially as a medium,
that's a question I get asked a lot, is how
can I feel my loved ones more? How can I
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communicate with them? How is it easy for you as
a medium but difficult for me. I always say to
people as a medium, please do not be under the
illusion that I have the golden telephone to contact my
people in the spirit world a lot easier than what
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it is for you. I always say to them, it's
actually easier for me as a medium to communicate with
your loved ones than it is for me. And why
Sandra said it when she was telling us about the Professor,
that one word doubt, Because if I meet someone for
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the very first time as a stranger, then the information
that I'm receiving. I trust it's coming from them. Whereas
if I'm wanting to maybe connect with my father and
I may she have a name John, I'm going to
doubt that because it's my dad's name. I know it's
my dad's name. Is it what I know? Is it
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just what I want to feel? So then I, damn
it didn't really work, did it? And that kind of sucks,
doesn't it? But here is the thing. Throughout my life
as a medium, I have went to a place of
questioning to actually knowing that there's life after death and
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knowing that we can communicate.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
With the other world.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
And I spent some time just trying to see if
there's other ways that maybe I could have influences from
my people in the sport world without me actually trying.
Something that I did many years ago when I first
started to develop my mediumship is I had written a
letter to my father because I found it easier to
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write rather than to maybe sit in the silence, So
it was easier for me to write it. But what
I started to realize when I was writing my letter
to my dad, my words and my feelings started to move,
and it took me to a place that I didn't
intentionally set out to go. So I then started to
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believe that was me perhaps becoming a little bit more
aware of my father in the spirit world coming closer
to me. And this is something that I get lots
of my students to do, and I would encourage you
to do that, but I would encourage you to do
it in a way of I guess you could say,
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testing the spirit world and also proving to yourself, because
I know you all, I sit there with doubt when
you asked for signs. Did that feather really come from
my loved one? Or is it because the cat has
killed another burden? So you doubt it, And when you
doubt it, then you move away from believing it. So
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when you write, what I would encourage you to do
is write your letter and maybe put some questions in it,
and fold it up, maybe put it in your bedside
drawer or in your pocket book or your handbag, and
carry it with you, and before you know it, you
probably will have forgotten your letter. But then you may
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begin to become aware of the answers of it. So naturally,
but I says to you, going to help you understand
or figure a way of moving from is it my imagination.
Am I feeling what I want to feel? Is it
coming from me rather than them? And as in medium,
I spent many years trying to figure out how the
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spirit world are communicating with me. But one thing I
started to realize is this is crazy. But I receive
a very weird shiver. And this very weird shiver tells
me that I am very connected with the spirit and
it's almost on my right hand side. And that's when
I know any thoughts, any visions, any feelings, any smells
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to whatever is in fact not coming from dominic but
coming from the Spirit. As you sit in silence, get
yourself in a place you feel safe and a place
that you could feel maybe quiet, Send that fought out,
send that fort out to the spirit world. Dad, I
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am here for you. Come closer to me, allow me
to feel you once again. It's not going to happen overnight,
is it not won Because we're going to need to
ever so gently reprogram how we are starting to look
at the relationship. But I guarantee you, through time, you
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will maybe become aware of that gentle touch from the spirit.
Like I said, my crazy, wacky little shiver, but it's
in my face enough that I know one hundred trillion,
billion million percent that I'm connected with spirit. Maybe you
need something like that. Maybe you need to take a
(45:00):
moment to shift your awareness from I to them and
ask them to come close and give you your physical
sign that you know that they're very much with you.
Why would your loved ones not come and be around you?
Why would say not come and want to embrace you
and let you feel them. Sometimes it's just about us
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moving out of our way and giving an opportunity for
them to come close. In today's society, life moves very quick.
There's always something to do, and I ask you, do
we really actually dedicate enough time for us to actually
feel that gentle touch with our loved ones. I really
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don't think we do. Another thing I would encourage you
to do if you want to try, is start to
write journal all the things that you would want to
say to them that day, that week, and do it
before you go to bed. Maybe take ten minutes before
you turn your light off at night to write a
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little conversation to your loved ones and ask them, at
the end of every conversation, please visit me in my
dreams and see if we can continue this conversation gently
given then the permission to come close to you and
your dreams as well. I loved also, like Sandra shared
with us with the Professor, he held his son's card.
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He held something that has an emotional and also a
physical connection. Some of you may still have beautiful things
belonging to your loved ones as well, and I encourage
you to hold it, hold whatever it may be, and
talk to it and listen. If anyone says you're crazy
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for talking to a hat or a scar, or a
ren or a piece of jewelry, but you tell them
to come and see me and I'll show them how
crazy it is. But talk to them. Because your loved
ones can hear you. They also can hear and receive
your thoughts as well. So even if it feels like
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maybe you're talking to yourself or no one's listening, I
promise you they are listening. Also, going back to the
writing and the conversations, write some of the memories that
you have shared together down and watch and see if
maybe the memory becomes more deeper, or you remember things
(47:33):
from that day or that time that maybe they are
then influencing you with their thoughts of that memory. Also
see if you remember other memories that are attached to that,
and just trust that through their consciousness, through their physical thoughts,
they're reaching yours as well. Many of you are always
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looking for signs from your loved ones feather was it
the eleven? The eleven? And sometimes you will find yourself doubting.
Why not try asking your loved ones as you sit,
maybe with a cup of coffee in the morning, Hey, dad,
can you make your sound be a clown this week?
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Or hey, rather than the pennies, can you show me
more times? Or can you show me fireworks? Rather than
looking for a needle in a haystack that maybe your
loved ones are trying really hard to show you you're
missing because well maybe you don't know what to look for.
Maybe you gently give them a suggestion of can you
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show me this? Or can you show me that? Or
can you remind me of that song? I guess what
I'm really trying to say is there's many ways that
we can attempt to communicate with our loved ones. There
is a library of different ways out there. But I
encourage you for and foremost to find your crazy shiver.
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I know our good friends Scott calls it the tingle.
So go out there, take time out for you to
find when your environment or your energy shifts, when your
loved ones are a little bit more closer to you.
But always remember the key is love. The cancer may
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have died, or the heart issue may have died, or
the stroke condition may have died. But ladies and gentlemen,
I promise you your loved one did not die. They maybe
just got a special invitation to a big VIP party
that you're just not ready to go to yet. And
one day you will, but for now, let's give them
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the permission or the invitation for them sometimes to come
to our party here in our life as well.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Thank you, dominic. I always welcome you and invite you
who come to our free Sunday gathering, but I may
not have ever told you. On the Sunday gathering page
at we Don't Die dot com, you can watch past replays.
Our human machinery forgets that we are divine souls having
a human experience, so it's important to stay involved. Read
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a good book. You can have a copy of my
book right there on the front page of my website.
We've got a couple of movies coming out. You'll find
them at the bottom of the page. Come join me
at one of Scott's in the Arms of Eternities, or
watch one of the replays. I'm here for you, my friend,
and as always, from the bottom of my heart, thank
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you for engaging in this conversation and listening to Shades
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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Episode will discuss the reasons we now know that our
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loved ones have survived physical doubt and so will we.
Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. On our episode today,
I want to play a few words from a grandmother
recalling her heavenly visit during an nd that she had
as a young woman. Also, this past Friday, on our
trance medium demonstration with Scott Milligan, someone asked a question
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about dealing with the pain of grief and the special
message that came back from our friend mister Eric and Spirit. Well,
it really touched my heart and I wanted to share
it with you. But before you hear those, I want
you to hear a few words from my friend Lisa Lenuski,
longtime listener of the show, whose daughter Amber is in Spirit.
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I've been encouraging Lisa and she just published the book
God Winks and Amber Waves, a Mother's Transformative Journey through Grief,
love and Purpose. Her book contains signs from her daughter
God Winks, help through grief, words to communicate with your
loved ones, but most especially her journey that I know
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would make a difference with your journey. Here's a few
words from a conversation I just had with Lisa.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
So we come from a military family. My husband and
I were high school sweethearts. We got married in college
and we started off traveling the world with his military career.
He was a career officer. It was wonderful, very very
normal family. I have two children, my oldest my Amber.
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The love of my life and my first born. She
died in twenty fourteen and sent our very normal family
in spirals. The story that I put into a book
is not so much about Amber, although there's a lot
about what Amber is doing now, not too much about
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what she did while she was here with me. But
her death sent me on an incredible search, and the
universe rewarded every little bit of that search. Things started
on the very very first day when we found out
from the police that our daughter's body had been found.
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We were at someone else's home at the time. It
was just my husband and I. We were house sitting,
pet sitting and standing in the kitchen at the end
of November. While we are literally I don't know how,
we were still on our feet. My husband is looking
over my shoulder out the kitchen window, and a red
tailed hawk came down and sat right on a stone
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wall and just stared in the kitchen window at us. Now,
I didn't really understand anything about birds at the time.
My husband was just absolutely mesmerized, and he was saying, like.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
And he takes his phone out of his back pope
and takes a photo of this, And I am not
happy about that. At this moment, I'm looking at him
like he's lost his marbles. And he said to me,
do you know how unusual that is? And I said, no,
I don't know anything about He said, I've never seen it.
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He was in his fiftieth time. I've never seen it.
I've never seen a bird come down a red tail
talk come down like that. Okay, Well it resonated with
him and made him feel good for a second. I
didn't write it down at the time. Obviously I didn't
know anything about that. But that same day, when we
were waiting for all of the family to come back
because they were all on vacation for the holidays and
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were coming back after they got the news, we were
alone in the house. My husband couldn't lay down, He
just wasn't able to lay into the bed yet, and
I was the all by myself, and I was awakened
that night by three really distinct and hard knocks that
were coming from above my head. It actually sounded like
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it was coming from outside of the house, but it
was really distinct, and it was just three really hard knocks,
and I knew that it was something. I didn't know
what it was, but I was like, I've never heard
this before. This is crazy. So I kind of talked
to the air, is that you, like, I'd never even
heard of death knock? Never researched it later on, but
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I never heard it. The following night, I went over
to my sister's home. The rest of the family had come.
I needed to kind of get away. I went over
to my sister's home, where my mom lived at the time,
and I spent the night with my mom in bed,
and the exact same thing happened in the middle of
the night, only three knocks. I acknowledged it, and I said,
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I really think that's you, and that's a little bit
intimidating at night like this. I know it's you. You
don't have to do it anymore. And it's never ever
happened again, no matter where I've been, And it wasn't
just the knocks. So I don't want to say that
every little sign or every little thing that happened. It's
the feeling that you get when it happens and you
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just know. That's really the only way I can explain it.
It's just a feeling that you get that I know
that this is not some random thing that's happening. So
the first time that I had a phone reading with Suzanne,
I want to say, I think it was twenty eighteen.
I was sick at the time. We were just doing
a zoom meeting just like this, and she was giving
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this evidence. I was in Florida, my husband was in Maine,
so the three of us kind of zoomed together and
she was giving us all this evidence and everything was
so very spot on, and she really had the essence
of who my daughter was and who I believe she
still is because she still has so much of that
sassy personality. If you tell a mother your daughter was
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really sassy, that either fits or it doesn't. You know,
if your daughter is a very quiet, little bookworm or
something like that, that doesn't fit. And you could be funny,
but not sassy. Was sassy. And so that word that
she used, and the way that she described her and
some of the experiences that she said that she had,
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all of it was accurate. And we were acquaintances at
the time. We weren't friends, and she's not looking things
up about me. But then she started talking about my
daughter's love for frogs, and Amber was a girly girl.
She was not in the dirt. She was not into frogs,
and she said, oh my gosh, she has the frogs
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on the bed and the frog's on the shelf. And
I'm like, no, no, that's not my daughter. And she said, oh, well,
I can't go back on that because I am seeing
frogs everywhere. I don't know, maybe it's a nickname for
somebody or whatever. All these great things were coming and
my crazy mind was thinking, you got that all wrong.
We ended things after that. The next day she emailed
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me and she said, I'm sorry about yesterday, and I
want to just give you a little bit of clarify.
The frog wasn't for you, And she said, occasionally she
has an interloper who comes into a reading, but it's
not meant for the person she's sitting with. At the time,
she didn't give me very much information other than that
it was a woman who had asked to hear from
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her beloved who had died in a traffic accident, and
the day of my reading was his first anniversary and
she had asked to hear from him. And she didn't
give me any more information about the woman, about anything
that happened. Nothing. So this was in July, now months
months later, It's the next year. It's March, and I'm
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online and I'm looking in a newsletter that I received weekly,
the Zamat Report, which is also referenced in my book.
I was looking on there and I saw there was
a little video on there of a woman who claimed
to be studying under Susanne Geeseman and her mediumship skills
were happening really fast for her. And I turned it
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on and I watched it and I listened to her,
and all of a sudden, goosebumps from head to toe.
I'm like, oh my god, this is the woman who's
beloved was in the accident, and I just know it's
her the way that I know it is. She referred
to him as Froggy, and she talked about how he
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had died the year before. Now it's almost two years
and I'm just putting all this together, and I'm thinking,
do I reach out to this person or is she
going to think I'm a nut? So that's exactly what
I did. I found her on social media and I
just wrote a quick note and said, I am not
a nut, but I just watched this and I'm just wondering,
did your fiance die in July of twenty seventeen, and
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she wrote back to me and she's like, are you
the lady that my froggy came to? She said that
Suzanne had explained it to her that she had asked
for known as Scott, she had asked him to please
come to Suzanne on his first anniversary, just so that
she'd has some consolation, and he did, but she was
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talking to me at the time, not her, so he came.
And then shortly after that, Cheryl and I started sharing
all kinds of stories about our loved ones. And I
have seen my daughter in video cursing her lips and
throwing me a kiss. I had asked for the wink
because I did it one time when I was doing
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something with Sonya, and Sonya kept saying, why do you
want her to blink at you?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
And I said, I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I want her to wink at me. I keep telling
her I want her to wink at me, and I
actually got to see it in video. I got to
see her winking in video. I got to see her
kissing in video. I've got to see her looking as
a toddler. With photos that once I supplied them to Sonia,
she was just like, oh my gosh, like that's pretty incredible.
She's only three. Knowing this pictures fantastic area of study.
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These lessons are horribly painful, and some of the lessons
that we're learning through grief, we've never experienced them before,
and other people are experiencing things that we've never experienced before.
But I don't believe that there's anything that's been given
to us here that we can't handle. And that's what
I want to do with the rest of my time
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here is I want to make a difference. And I
feel like I've been doing more in the last ten
years to make a difference than I did in the
first fifty plus. And I've lived and I loved, and
I was a very good and kind person. But these
lessons that we live after what we think is the
worst thing that could possibly happen bodily death, the person
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is gone, gone forever. Well, if you believe that the
person is gone forever, you still have to figure out
how to live without them. So why not just investigate
a little bit, because one, don't you know that they're
not gone forever, you're still going to live without them,
that you're going to live very differently now when Lisa
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talks about seeing Amber. That's through what's called instrumental trans communication.
You may remember back on episode one hearing the story
of Sonya Rinaldi and we made that film that's on
my website called Renaldi. With many of her experiments, Lisa
is a giver. She has donated five or six years
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working by Sonya Andaldi's side. With all these experiments with parents,
she's also become a certified grief educator. She's looking for
stories your godwinks evidence from your loved ones, and she's
just a fantastic down to earth person. To contact Lisa,
visit Lisa Lanuski dot com or you can email me
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Sandra Champlain at Gmail and I can put you in
touch with Lisa. Well, let's go to the break and
when we come back, you'll meet a now grandma who
talks of her near death experience and a surprise visit
from her grandson in the afterlife. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
(13:11):
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sandra Champlain. Next, we have a story from Jackie.
It's a powerful account to what happened to her during
a time she was incredibly vulnerable, and how that experience,
though initially dismissed by others, planted a seed of knowing
that completely changed her perspective on life and death. Jackie's
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journey reminds us that sometimes the most profound evidence comes
not from dramatic lights or tunnels, but from quiet moments
of peace and recognition.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
This was in nineteen eighty six, in April that this
event happened to me. At that time, I was having
some physical problems, and I was scheduled to have a
surgery in the Women's hospital in Lake Charles, Louisiana, where
I was living at the time. Sometime during the procedure,
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I had this experience happen to me.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Jackie explains that unlike many stories we hear, her experience
didn't start with bright lights or moving down a tunnel.
It was simpler, yet just as profound.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
I just came to conscious in my mind in this
big room, and this room was circular, and all around
the walls of this circle were these You could tell
they were people, they were images, but I could not
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make out anyone's faces.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
They were just images. The only exceptions.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Were and it was right on my left side there
was my maternal grandmother and I could see her face
and make out that was her, and standing beside her
was my children's father.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
That's Jackie's ex husband, who had also passed.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I remember a thought I had, I wonder what he's
doing here in my whatever this is, but that left
me really quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I just like, yeah, of course he's here.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So in this space filled with indistinct figures, Jackie clearly
recognizes two specific people she knew who had died, her
grandmother and even her ex husband, but the main focus
was on someone else.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
The focus of this room, this round room, there was
this little platform. It was like maybe a few inches high,
and in the middle this platform was this big wooden
chair with arms, and in this chair was my dad,
who had passed away the Christmas before this, so that
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would have been Christmas time.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
And I remember that I felt so excited to see him,
and I walked over and I sat down on whatever
this little platform was, and he was sitting in this chair,
and I remember I laid my head down in his lap.
I just had just the greatest sense of peace. That
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I've ever experienced in my life.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And the experience wasn't just visual or emotional. It included specific,
familiar sensory details.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
The only color I could see was this old plaid
flannel shirt that he had on. There was reds and
blues and whites. Now, it was one of those things
like whoever does your law wants to throw it away,
but you insist that they have to keep washing it
so you can wear it. And this was how that
shirt was. And then there was a smell. There was
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a smell of like old spice. I just remember I
laid my head in his lap and I just said, Dad,
I'm so happy to see you, and I'm so happy
to be here. And he said, I'm happy to see
you too, honey, and he patted me on the head.
He said, but you have to know that this is
not your time and you can't stay.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You have to go back.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
And I remember that I said something like, oh, but
I'd rather stay here, I says, because this is so wonderful,
and he said, no, it's just not your time.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
And just like that, the peaceful reunion was over.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I don't remember leaving the room.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Then I remembered I could hear these voices of people saying,
miss Lundy, you need to wake up. And when I
came awake, I said, I.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Was in the most wonderful place.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And the nurses, of course, looked at me and said, oh,
miss Lending, that's just the drugs we gave you so
that the doctor could operate on you. So that happens
to everybody, you have some hallucination or something.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
This is such a common experience, isn't it. Someone has
the most real, most profound experience of their entire life,
and the first response they often get is dismissal. It
really does make people doubt their own experiences.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
So I just let it go. Although it stayed in
my head for a long time. I may have shared
it with someone I'm not sure, maybe with my sister
somewhere along the line, but I never actually ever heard
of NDEs. I had no knowledge of that until somewhere
along that line, pre pandemic, I met my friend Rob.
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Rob said something about NDEs and I was just fascinated
because I thought, I wonder if that's what happened to
me sometime over the years. I mentioned that to him
and he said, yes, most definitely.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But even before she had a name for it. Even
when the medical staff told her it was just a hallucination,
the feeling of that experience stayed with Jackie and began
to change her and give her some unexpected faith.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
I think that when I really accepted and had some
base understanding of what that was about, that it really
increased my faith because I got into recovery with a
belief that there was a God, but I had no
concept of how I could have any kind of a
relationship with a God. I always wondered because nobody would
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substantiate that it was real, and so I would sometimes
say it was just a reaction to drugs.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
It was just a hallucination. It wasn't real.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
But even when I couldn't get anyone to confirm that
it was real, it did change my faith for the better.
Felt absolutely real to me at the time, absolutely real.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Now I wanted to stay.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Because it was just the most peaceful place, the most
peaceful event I've ever experienced in my life. There was
no doubt, there was no fear, there was no sadness,
there was just nothing. It was joy, but it was
beyond joy, and I think that feeling probably is what
helped my faith the most is it. That was real
(20:31):
to me, and I really from that point just said, yes,
there is something beyond what we put up with and endure.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And learn in this tough world.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
You know that there is a peaceful existence of some sort.
I started just feeling less fearful. And I was always fearful.
Someday I was going to die and that was it.
There was never ever going to be anything else. But
that experience gave me the aha, there really is something
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beautiful beyond this earthly life.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
So Jackie's experience laid a foundation of knowing for her,
and years later other experiences would build upon that foundation,
bringing comfort during other times of loss. She had another
brief dream like visit after her late husband Ron passed
away in two thousand and four, and it was.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
At night also, which made me think was just a dream,
because it was daytime in the dream and I was
outside and here comes Ron walking down the street into
my driveway, and the only thing he said to me.
I don't remember saying anything back to him. He says,
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I just came to make sure you were okay.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
That was it. Clearly, this was a short and sweet,
simple message, but a deeply comforting one for her, and
then much more recently, in twenty twenty one, he faced
another heartbreaking loss when her grandson Thomas died at just
twenty years old from a fentanyl overdose after struggling with addiction.
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This time, the visit was even more profound and brought
a surprising sense of peace.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
After he visited me about ten days after he passed,
I could feel a different kind of gratitude.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And this was at night.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
I was sleeping and I woke up, and I was
just so overwhelmed with that. I really did feel that,
beyond a dream, that Thomas had visited me. He was
just there and he said, Grandma, He said, it is
so wonderful here. None he was gone, but he wanted
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me to know how wonderful it was.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Hearing that her beloved grandson, Thomas, who had suffered so
much in his short life, was now in a wonderful
place brought Jackie an unexpected perspective.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
I've had more thinking about Thomas and the experience I
had in my years with him and his visitation to me,
instead of thinking why did this happen to happen to him?
And I never voiced this to my family because I'm
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not quite sure how my son would take this, but
I had this sense of gratitude that he did not
have to suffer anymore. And beyond that, I had this
sense of gratitude that his father and his mother and
his little sister no longer had to live a life
(23:46):
that was controlled by Thomas's addiction. I got very grateful
for that. Because the morning after Thomas died, and I'm
sitting out on my son's back porch and we're drinking
our coffee watching the sun come up. I said to him,
I said, honey, did you get any sleep last night
at all? He says, Mom, it's the strangest thing. He said,
(24:10):
I slept better than I have slept in years. And
I realized this morning when I woke up rested instead
of exhausted, that I had not slept with my hand
on my phone all night, waiting for the next Thomas trauma.
And he said, and I realized I had not done that.
He said, today is Thomas's first day of sobriety in heaven.
(24:33):
And I said, yeah, honey, that's so true. So that
helped my faith when I could really know that this
young man that he knew he was okay. I mean,
my children's father, my grandmother and my father were older.
The fact that they were no longer here and that
they were in this place was not strange to me
(24:55):
to say, because it's normal because of their age, where
Thomas was a young man who was twenty years old,
so it was not normal. But I got that piece
with that also and just really help my faith more.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Jackie's story shows us that these experiences really do build
on each other. Her Nde comforted her in the later
visitations from her husband and grandson, helped her faith and
her peace. And isn't that what this evidence is all
about for us, finding that inner certainty that love never
dies and even our deepest suffering can be met with
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understanding and grace from the other side. Will be right
back with some words on grief and how close our
loved ones are from a friend in the Afterlife. You're
listening to Shades of the Afterlife and the iHeartRadio and
Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to
(26:09):
Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. There are three
things that keep me really connected to the reality of
the afterlife. Because I too am a human. I don't
think We're designed to remember the bigger picture twenty four
hours a day, seven days a week, that we are
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these immortal, divine souls having a human experience. I think
there is this game called life mostly painful. I understand that,
but it's an opportunity for our soul to learn and
to experience. But how do I stay plugged in? Well,
one of the biggest things is being right here with
(26:51):
you each and every week doing my investigation, finding a
new topic or a new story for you, because I'm
hoping they keep you engaged and open minded about the
reality of the afterlife and that your loved ones are
still around. Of course, I hope to entertain you a
little bit too sometimes. One of the other things I
(27:11):
love is our free Sunday gathering two pm at New
York time, every single Sunday going into our sixth year.
Now why this is important to me is it's inspirational
and empowering. Yes, but there's a medium demonstration in everyone,
and I'm blown away by the evidence that comes through
our mediums to people all over the world that there's
(27:34):
no way they can know. Not general comments or evidence,
but really specific things that often move me to tears.
The third thing is. On many Fridays we offer what's
called in the Arms of Eternity. You can come for
free send distant healing to the world. But also it's
(27:54):
a demonstration of trance mediumship, where medium Scott Milligan will
close his eye and after quite a while, another voice
comes to speak through him. For six years now, mister Eric,
who speaks through Scott, never misses a beat, never hesitates,
filled with love and compassion, can answer just about every
(28:17):
question thrown at him about life, death, and afterlife. People
type their questions in the Q and A box on Zoom.
I'm the only one who can see them. Scott's eyes
are closed, and mister Eric not only can often know
the next question to be asked, but knows the person
who's going to ask it. It really helps me on
(28:38):
a weekly basis, remember that we're all divine souls having
a human experience. This question was asked this past week
and it really hit a place in my heart that
I knew I had to share it with you. The
question was what advice can you give to people who,
despite trying their hardest, are still struggling with grief after
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two years. Here's mister Eric, Well.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Two years is still too short. You'll know, my friend,
the advice I would give you, which may mean nothing
to many, but may have something for you for as
you reminisce of your photographs on your devices as well
(29:26):
as what was gathered through boxes. Remember the happier times,
my friend. But know that when you gaze upon this,
there is an arm around you. There is laughter all
around you, the gasp of breath and the sound of ah.
(29:50):
Do you remember this? It may cause you to weep,
my friends, because you feel the tremendous love, but you
feel it as overwhelming grief. I have often said, and
(30:12):
I may have to remind you all if it was
you who has come to our side of life, and
to you it has only been a brief moment. But
to those who are left behind, may years have passed
and you see them broken, or you see them stop living.
(30:35):
What would you say back to them? What would be
your sage that you would give them? You would shout
in their ear, you would wave in their face, you
would embrace them, because that's exactly what your loved one
(30:59):
is doing back to you now. They are trying to
remind you that only their pain has faded away. If
you are to travel they will travel with you. If
you are to place a drink out for them, they
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will sit in your company, even though that the glass
may still remain full. They are experiencing the generosity the
same when you place flowers, they receive that kindness. But
(31:43):
as you stare upon the etchings on the stone, they
stare into your eyes and say, that is not me.
This is not where I stand or lay. I come
with you live, and through the music that you hear
(32:05):
that reminds you of us, Through a sense of cologne
and perfume, you sense our presence because it causes memories
to come back. Holding on to the very thing that
brushed hair, It is not them, but it reminds you
(32:28):
of them. If I could lend you of the sight
that I have, you will never question or weep again.
Your room that seems empty to you is full of
people that love you. Try to hold on to that,
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my friend. But also, even though we can give you
spiritual counseling, you must also as of someone in your
world that can help you to make sense. And this
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is why we always say it is a partnership between
our world and yours. We will look after your loved
one as long as your world looks after each other.
We have held on to our promise to you. Now
allow your world to fulfill that promise. That would be
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my advice to you to know that your loved one
stands with you, not with me, even though we look
after them. Our love permeates like perfume. They know they've
never left, but they are just too bright for your
(34:01):
eyes to see at the moment. And that is why,
my friend, when you are in bed, you become aware
in your dreams you stand with them. But then you
are reminded when you wake. Let your life be the
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testament that you have known true love. But now live
your life. You have often liked seen the joy in
other people. If you see joy now, then it is
your loved one speaking with you. Live and I will
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live with you. Dance, I will dance with you. Sing
and I will sing badly with you. And I will
sit and I will walk, and I will rest with you.
This is a message for all of you. This is
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why your world is in deep need to now wake
up and see through the spiritual.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Eyes that our world is the reality, and your world
will join our.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
World through the journey of life. I will leave you
now with the blessings of all who gather at this time,
wipe away the tears of sadness, allow the clouds of
(35:52):
confusion to fade, and know that we are tevered to
one another through the ecx of love, through the acts
of kindness. We will never let go. Even know that
(36:13):
sometimes your world chooses to take care and sleep with ease,
and know that our world walks with you. Good day
to you, my friends.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
His words really mean a lot to me, and over
all these years he's become a good friend. I said
that sometimes Eric acts as a medium. Not too long ago,
our friend Ramona had a question and he answered it
whatever it was. But he also told her to buy
a pair of slippers for her feet that had a
(36:51):
solid non skid coding on the bottom because a friend
in the spirit world saw her slip and fall. I
thought this was really weird because I asked the question
on behalf of Ramona and there was no sign anything
about slippers or her feet or her falling. Ramona left
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me a message after the sitting that her sister was
a foot doctor and just the day before she had
gone out to buy a new pair of slippers because
she had slipped and fallen wearing her old slippers. She
almost bought a pair that didn't have the non skid coating,
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but she thought better of herself and this was confirmation
from somebody in the spirit world, which Ramona believes. It's
one hundred percent her deceased sister who can see Ramona
in Germany and talk to Sandra in the United States
through a trance medium in England. When we get back
from the break, we'll take a look at being in
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communication with our loved one through the advice of evidential
medium Dominic Bogue. We'll be right back. You're listening to
Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Cost to
Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of
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the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and just a reminder, my
home base is we Don't Die dot Com. I mentioned
the Sunday gathering. It's one of the best ways I
stay connected. The next recording I'm going to play is
from Scottish medium Dominic Bogue. This past Sunday on our gathering,
I gave the reading about psychology professor doctor Matt McKay
(38:57):
and how he communicates with his son and using automatic writing.
You can go back to episode two to nine to
hear that Dominic is a young medium who has been
demonstrating since he was a teenager, and I think he's
one of the best around. So enjoy his thoughts on
communicating with our own loved ones.
Speaker 8 (39:19):
Especially coming up for holidays, Christmas and New Year coming up.
That's one of the most challenges parts of the years,
is when we miss our loved ones just that little
bit more. And a lot of people, especially as a medium,
that's a question I get asked a lot, is how
can I feel my loved ones more? How can I
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communicate with them? How is it easy for you as
a medium but difficult for me. I always say to
people as a medium, please do not be under the
illusion that I have the golden telephone to contact my
people in the spirit world a lot easier than what
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it is for you. I always say to them, it's
actually easier for me as a medium to communicate with
your loved ones than it is for me. And why
Sandra said it when she was telling us about the Professor,
that one word doubt, Because if I meet someone for
(40:29):
the very first time as a stranger, then the information
that I'm receiving. I trust it's coming from them. Whereas
if I'm wanting to maybe connect with my father and
I may she have a name John, I'm going to
doubt that because it's my dad's name. I know it's
my dad's name. Is it what I know? Is it
(40:50):
just what I want to feel? So then I, damn
it didn't really work, did it? And that kind of sucks,
doesn't it? But here is the thing. Throughout my life
as a medium, I have went to a place of
questioning to actually knowing that there's life after death and
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knowing that we can communicate.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
With the other world.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
And I spent some time just trying to see if
there's other ways that maybe I could have influences from
my people in the sport world without me actually trying.
Something that I did many years ago when I first
started to develop my mediumship is I had written a
letter to my father because I found it easier to
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write rather than to maybe sit in the silence, So
it was easier for me to write it. But what
I started to realize when I was writing my letter
to my dad, my words and my feelings started to move,
and it took me to a place that I didn't
intentionally set out to go. So I then started to
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believe that was me perhaps becoming a little bit more
aware of my father in the spirit world coming closer
to me. And this is something that I get lots
of my students to do, and I would encourage you
to do that, but I would encourage you to do
it in a way of I guess you could say,
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testing the spirit world and also proving to yourself, because
I know you all, I sit there with doubt when
you asked for signs. Did that feather really come from
my loved one? Or is it because the cat has
killed another burden? So you doubt it, And when you
doubt it, then you move away from believing it. So
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when you write, what I would encourage you to do
is write your letter and maybe put some questions in it,
and fold it up, maybe put it in your bedside
drawer or in your pocket book or your handbag, and
carry it with you, and before you know it, you
probably will have forgotten your letter. But then you may
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begin to become aware of the answers of it. So naturally,
but I says to you, going to help you understand
or figure a way of moving from is it my imagination.
Am I feeling what I want to feel? Is it
coming from me rather than them? And as in medium,
I spent many years trying to figure out how the
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spirit world are communicating with me. But one thing I
started to realize is this is crazy. But I receive
a very weird shiver. And this very weird shiver tells
me that I am very connected with the spirit and
it's almost on my right hand side. And that's when
I know any thoughts, any visions, any feelings, any smells
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to whatever is in fact not coming from dominic but
coming from the Spirit. As you sit in silence, get
yourself in a place you feel safe and a place
that you could feel maybe quiet, Send that fought out,
send that fort out to the spirit world. Dad, I
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am here for you. Come closer to me, allow me
to feel you once again. It's not going to happen overnight,
is it not won Because we're going to need to
ever so gently reprogram how we are starting to look
at the relationship. But I guarantee you, through time, you
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will maybe become aware of that gentle touch from the spirit.
Like I said, my crazy, wacky little shiver, but it's
in my face enough that I know one hundred trillion,
billion million percent that I'm connected with spirit. Maybe you
need something like that. Maybe you need to take a
(45:00):
moment to shift your awareness from I to them and
ask them to come close and give you your physical
sign that you know that they're very much with you.
Why would your loved ones not come and be around you?
Why would say not come and want to embrace you
and let you feel them. Sometimes it's just about us
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moving out of our way and giving an opportunity for
them to come close. In today's society, life moves very quick.
There's always something to do, and I ask you, do
we really actually dedicate enough time for us to actually
feel that gentle touch with our loved ones. I really
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don't think we do. Another thing I would encourage you
to do if you want to try, is start to
write journal all the things that you would want to
say to them that day, that week, and do it
before you go to bed. Maybe take ten minutes before
you turn your light off at night to write a
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little conversation to your loved ones and ask them, at
the end of every conversation, please visit me in my
dreams and see if we can continue this conversation gently
given then the permission to come close to you and
your dreams as well. I loved also, like Sandra shared
with us with the Professor, he held his son's card.
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He held something that has an emotional and also a
physical connection. Some of you may still have beautiful things
belonging to your loved ones as well, and I encourage
you to hold it, hold whatever it may be, and
talk to it and listen. If anyone says you're crazy
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for talking to a hat or a scar, or a
ren or a piece of jewelry, but you tell them
to come and see me and I'll show them how
crazy it is. But talk to them. Because your loved
ones can hear you. They also can hear and receive
your thoughts as well. So even if it feels like
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maybe you're talking to yourself or no one's listening, I
promise you they are listening. Also, going back to the
writing and the conversations, write some of the memories that
you have shared together down and watch and see if
maybe the memory becomes more deeper, or you remember things
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from that day or that time that maybe they are
then influencing you with their thoughts of that memory. Also
see if you remember other memories that are attached to that,
and just trust that through their consciousness, through their physical thoughts,
they're reaching yours as well. Many of you are always
(47:57):
looking for signs from your loved ones feather was it
the eleven? The eleven? And sometimes you will find yourself doubting.
Why not try asking your loved ones as you sit,
maybe with a cup of coffee in the morning, Hey, dad,
can you make your sound be a clown this week?
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Or hey, rather than the pennies, can you show me
more times? Or can you show me fireworks? Rather than
looking for a needle in a haystack that maybe your
loved ones are trying really hard to show you you're
missing because well maybe you don't know what to look for.
Maybe you gently give them a suggestion of can you
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show me this? Or can you show me that? Or
can you remind me of that song? I guess what
I'm really trying to say is there's many ways that
we can attempt to communicate with our loved ones. There
is a library of different ways out there. But I
encourage you for and foremost to find your crazy shiver.
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I know our good friends Scott calls it the tingle.
So go out there, take time out for you to
find when your environment or your energy shifts, when your
loved ones are a little bit more closer to you.
But always remember the key is love. The cancer may
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have died, or the heart issue may have died, or
the stroke condition may have died. But ladies and gentlemen,
I promise you your loved one did not die. They maybe
just got a special invitation to a big VIP party
that you're just not ready to go to yet. And
one day you will, but for now, let's give them
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the permission or the invitation for them sometimes to come
to our party here in our life as well.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Thank you, dominic. I always welcome you and invite you
who come to our free Sunday gathering, but I may
not have ever told you. On the Sunday gathering page
at we Don't Die dot com, you can watch past replays.
Our human machinery forgets that we are divine souls having
a human experience, so it's important to stay involved. Read
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a good book. You can have a copy of my
book right there on the front page of my website.
We've got a couple of movies coming out. You'll find
them at the bottom of the page. Come join me
at one of Scott's in the Arms of Eternities, or
watch one of the replays. I'm here for you, my friend,
and as always, from the bottom of my heart, thank
(50:39):
you for engaging in this conversation and listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost
Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out
all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going
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