April 4, 2024 • 34 mins
Can ChatGPT diagnose Clint's current health problems? What is helping Dr. Jenn dig deeper in her sexual vulnerability? Plus, Clint offers terrible advice to Dr. Jenn about attending an elementary school's talent show.
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All right, doctor jan we gotsome stuff to talk about today. I
want some advice from your health wise. Ah well, first of all,
you look like you got a haircut. You look very stugly. It looks
good. She's thank you very much. Are you drinking? When did you
get a haircut? Let's come,uh, thank you. I got a
haircut. Today's Thursday. On Sunday. Nope, Saturday. Nice, Thank
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you very much. You're welcome.Almost made fun of myself, but I
thought, nope, I don't talk. Oh, I know, it's funny.
There's just like awkward pauses when you'relike gonna make fun. I think
maybe I'm used to you making fun. You're waiting right, yeah, and
there's just this sort of like awkwardlike okay, that conversation went nowhere.
I was gonna say, I can'tfix my face, but then I thought,
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don't talk to me anyway. Thereyou did. It's all we know.
All right, Okay, wait,wait, what's going on? Healthwise?
So last Thursday night, five o'clock, I get a massage. And
I've had a massage from this girl. I am fantastic. She's wonderful.
She does in home visits. Mywife and I each get her. I
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don't know, once every five weeksor so. I'm not even sure.
Okay, and really good. Well, she's never used this. I think
it's called guasha or something. It'sa it's a scraping tool. It's like
a stick that you like a likescraping is different than rubbing deeply. Well,
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this is rubbing deeply, but mywife calls it scraping, so I
don't know that interesting. Okay,So it's I didn't get a good look
at it, but it looked likea dowl almost, not like a roll.
But she treats it like a youknow, to push and really break
up the tense areas of your body. And she spent of the hour.
I'll bet she spent thirty minutes onjust my lats and my neck. She
said, you are so tight,it's unbelievable. And I go, okay,
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she goes, I'm breaking up theyou know, the lymphatic fluids and
the blood. We got to raiseit to the surface. She was also
cupping, and she was also doingmassage in between that butt. Oh wow,
let me tell you, with thisthing, my wife loves it hurt
when she was doing it, notreally Oh wow, Okay, it was.
It was intense, but no,and for me what hurt was when
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she used her hands on my forearms, they felt like steel vices clamping.
So I had to help tell hertwice she's a strong old thing, yeah
that hey, it feels like you'regetting to the bone. And she's like,
oh, okay, sorry, butthis was after this tool that was
used. Well, she says,drink a lot of water, taking up
some bath and I said okay.So that night I go to bed and
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I'm like, oh man, yuck. I wake up in the morning,
I feel like absolute horse shit.And so now this is Friday morning,
so I have to go to work. I can't, you know, and
like so like like, I mean, because it's one thing to feel super
super sore and aching on the muscleslike you felt bad inside. Yes,
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this was this was flu like symptoms, probably from the toxins that were you
know, now out and about inmy body and trying to release. I
was literally just going to say,I was like, let me just guess
they told you that it's because ofthe toxins being released and you're gonna feel
worse before you feel better, andthat means it's working. Yeah. No,
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I know, there's a lot ofthat out there. Do you understand
that's like literally, and so ifyou feel good, they're like, it
worked, And if you feel bad, they're like it worked. Do you
understand like it's literally kind of meaningless. Okay, so here's my thing.
I woke up that next morning eyeballshurting, just like the flu. Like
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when I look up and left andaround, Oh my god, my head,
oh all the way down my traps, my back, everything, and
my knees and my tops of myfeet. It was like what the I
felt like I was in a fight, and so went to work. Probably
shouldn't have thought, Okay, atleast it's the weekend. Went to the
shop in the morning and felt likecrap as well slight nausea. I have
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no appetite whatsoever. I have nothad coffee since Thursday, well until today
today, I have, you know, me with coffee. Yeah, and
I because I felt like nothing.I'll bet if I get on the scale,
I'll bet I've lost ten pounds,like I ate, maybe the equivalent
of a meal a day. Maybe, Well, did you have a fever?
So it felt like it did whenmy face was burning and it was
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sweating, But then i'd get intothese uncon Remember I told you about the
uncontrollable chills, and I'd be like, you get couldn't even hold my tooth.
Remember this happened like when I hadCOVID before, about a year and
a half ago, years ago.Other people Okay, yeah, oh my
god. So it was both ofthose things. And so yeah, So
this is going on all the wayuntil this morning, and maybe until about
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midway through yesterday. So I thoughtI turned a corner last Sunday at six
oh five pm. And I rememberthat because I went, oh my god,
something's happening. I'm good. Oh. And then that night, Nope,
not good. Monday light crap,Tuesday light crap, Wednesday light crow.
I was like, damn it.And then I took an eb some
salt bath lab this night and thenight before and the night before last really
helped nice. And I started sweating, which was good. And then yesterday
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morning in the studio, when Iwas sweating through my shirt, that's when
I started feeling better. I'm like, oh, oh yeah, please please,
I don't care how I look upright now, how well, I
let's do this. And then middaythrough the day yesterday, I was still
goodish, but not perfect. Today'sa marked improvement right now. I don't
want to slip back into that.But I'm just weak. I'm very I
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get fatigued very easily. Yeah,And I don't know, man that I
just I'm not going to do itagain. And I'm also I would say,
i'm I think it's coincidental timing.I don't think it's related to that.
I think that's a whole lot ofBS that's out there in the woo
wooh holistic health world. I thinkit's just I think it just happens to
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be timing. Like honestly, onthe day of it, you know,
the day before you got sick,you could have gone and like gone for
a jog for the first time.You know you haven't done that forever.
You could have gone for a longbike ride. You could have had something
else, and you're like, ohmy god. I think it's from that.
I don't know, I get that. But here's the thing. I
also have dry mouth cotton mouth nomatter how much I drink water. No,
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I think you're sick. I thinkyou got a virus. I think
you got to you had a virusthat kicked in and you've been very sick,
You've been fighting something. Yeah forseven days. No, I know,
but my point being is like,yes, clearly you are very sick
and you have something. Your bodyis fighting something, but I don't think
it's from that treatment, is whatI'm gonna say. Okay, well then
there we go either way. AllI know is this. I'm just glad
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I'm on the mend, still weakbut improving, because that was absolutely miserable.
And yeah, I'm going into work. Was stupid. I didn't miss
a day or work. Yeah,and getting up, I mean hell,
there was a cup of morning deo. I get up at like three forty
five, that's right. Yeah,And I stood in front of the in
front of the mirror, put myhands on the counter to just rest for
a second. And I don't I'mnot gonna say I was gonna pass out,
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but I was feeling just shit.And I was like, whoa,
whoa, whoa, what's going onhere? So it sucked. It just
sucked. But I called my doctor. He said, you're dehydrated. And
I gotta be honest. I likemy doctor a lot, but he was
not much helping this. He wason the phone and he just kept saying
drink more water. I'm like,yeah, but I got dry mouth,
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tops on my feet hurt. Now. I had another buddy who told me.
He goes, look, dude,my son's got diabetes. He goes,
that's every sign of diabetes. Hegoes, if that continues, go
get seen. And I'm like,yeah, but I had a blood draw
last year completely clean. It wasn'teven close. He goes, well,
my next physical is I think amonth from now. Wait wait, wait,
can we can we use chat CHEAPTfour right now to type in and
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see what it thinks was going onfor you? Sure? Yeah, okay,
wait web MD now CHATCHPT four Okay, so tell me. Okay,
my friend Flint, who is howold are you? Fifty four? Fifty
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four years old, was recently sickwith an odd group of symptoms including go
ahead, achy eyeballs, No,that's so weird, headache from front to
back, achy balls, hold on, headache from front to back, okay,
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top of feet, hurting, topof feet when I would stand up,
yes, but not when I wasa while walking or anything standing.
Okay. Super bad chills, uncontrollablechills, and then hot face with with
a little bit of sweat. Hotface with some sweat, and then uh,
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super sensitive on my back, likeif I leaned even against the car
seat, it was like I hadto be like soft. That to me
definitely is probably from the treatment,but we will because you know, you
could have been super you could havebeen achy muscle achy from that. But
then you've got all of this otherstuff going on. I feel like you
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said something else that we missed achyeyeballs, just like overall fatigue. I
presume, oh yeah, fatigue slightnausea, not oh that's it, slight
nausea maybe maybe more like upset stomach, almost almost repulsed for food or anything.
Okay, the pulse just had nono desire to eat. Okay,
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you know for me that's big ideahrmouth, that's it. Okay. I
knew there was a couple more soupputs super dry like it's dry now any
frye mouth, and didn't change anyother like drugs or anything like that.
I am on bactrum. I'm onbactrum. Uh before you started that,
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before this, I did bactrum andI took the last one this morning,
bactrum antibiotic. Because of my PSAtest. He wanted to see if there's
a any kind of infection in there, because if my PSA test goes down
when I take it another week anda half. Because when I finished today,
now a week from tomorrow, Ican go in and take the A
p s A blood drag in andif it's down, he said, okay,
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then it's an infection. If not, he's going in through my unit
with a oh yeah, yeah.I'm not looking forward to that, but
I want to make sure I knowwhat's going on here. Trump, Wait,
is a side effective bactrum dry mouth? I feel like it is.
I don't know for some time.When you said that, I was like,
I feel like I know that name. Okay, okay, I said
I. So I taped that allin and I asked chat GPT, what
are your top five ideas of what'sgoing on? And chat GPT is saying,
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your friend Clint. Symptoms are quitediverse, affecting multiple systems in the
body, which can make pinpointing theexact cause challenging without a medical examination.
However, I can offer some possibilitiesbased on the symptoms. It's essential to
console to healthcare professional. YadA,YadA, YadA, okay. One viral
infection thank you very much. Manyof Clint's symptoms, such as headache,
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chill, sensitivity, fatigue, andupsets stomach are common, and viral infections
like the flu or other respiratory viruses. Viruses can cause a range of symptoms
and often affect multiple body parts.Second dehydration, there's your doctor. Symptoms
like dry mouth, headache, feelingoverly tired can also undertake dehydration, especially
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if he has a decreased desire ofeating and has been sweating. Autoimmune disorders,
some of them, can cause widespreadinflammation in the body, leading to
diverse symptoms including pain in various bodyparts, sensitivity, fatigue, and digestive
issues. Conditions such as lupus orrheumatoid arthritis can have varied presentations. For
thyroid disorders, an overactive or underactivethyroid can lead to a host of symptoms,
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including sensitivity to heat or cold,fatigue, digestive issues, changes,
an appetite fibromyalgia. This is characterizedby ryot must go. But are you
You're feeling better though? Yeah?Yeah, today's like the first marked improvement.
Yeah. Any memory issues with it? Last week? I mean I'm
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slower in my thinking. I'll tellyou that and my in the studio,
I'm having, like have Sarah repeatthings a couple of times just because I'm
tired. Right, that's the thing. So anyway, I will chat GPT
show that I am not just adoctor of sex, the doctor of Clint's
ailment. You're a doctor of chat. Well thank you for that, doctor
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Jen. I know nothing more thanI did just about ten minutes ago.
You know you should listen to me. That is what I learned from that.
Oh man, all right, I'msorry. That's really crappy, like
really crappy. Wow, let metell you. I'll probably get on the
sk tomorrow morning. Though. Whatam I? Ronning Dandeville? Let me
tell you what? All right?But what about you, Yea? With
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some of your work? Yeah,well it's been so I can't remember how
detailed I've gotten about this on ourshow or not so last so i've you
know, most of my speaking workat this point has been with an organization
called YPO Young President's Organization, butyoung being in under fifty and so these
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it's a worldwide organization of CEOs whomake it from a young age because they
have to be kind of accepted intoa chapter before age forty five, and
they're CEOs of multimillion dollar companies withusually at least fifty employees. So these
are you know, high level folkswho have made it at a young age,
but then they can also stay inthe organization once they turn fifty.
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So I have been slowly getting intothis a my name being passed around specifically
for YEPO events for like Valentine's eventsand a sex game show I do.
And so I've been, you know, I travel around the US doing this.
I've done some in Europe. I'vedone some virtually. Last year I
had one for a Tanzania chapter andI did it virtually. So anyway,
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part of what hypos are particularly knownfor is that every hypo member and a
chapter, say there's one hundred peoplein a chapter, each of those people
is going to be in a smallgroup called a forum that has between six
and ten members. They meet oncea month. They have for four hours,
and they have a very specific structurethey follow through and they like adhere
to confidentiality at a level that evenblew my mind as an intimacy coach for
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the past sixteen years. And anyway, they have a specific structure and conversation
style that helps facilitate vulnerability and authenticityand helping them dig at what's keeping them
from being better leaders, better partners, happier, more successful, better parents,
all of those things, because theyreally are focused on the big person.
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So while these are very successful peoplein the world and in their companies
and in their communities, they reallywant to focus on the big person.
So that's where you know, I'vebeen brought in for couples events and communication
events. But last year I gotaccepted into a program to get trained as
something that's called a CFF, aCertified Forum Facilitator where I specifically am hired
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to come in and speak to thesesmall group forums of only about eight members
and where I have more time togo deeper with them for like four hours
or for a day, like doingretreats with them. And so I got
accepted into the program. It's quitea competitive program people from around the world.
There's like one hundred and forty fiveof us now cffs around the world
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for over you know, for almostforty thousand YPO members around the world,
So it's a kind of exclusive group. Hard to get in, hard application.
I got trained last fall. That'swhy I was in Portugal last December
for the in person training, andso I passed the virtual training. I
passed the in person and so Iam off to the races and I'm still
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getting coaching and stuff around it,but I'm already getting hired for retreats,
which is fantastic because go ahead,well I know you wait, maybe I
didn't understand before you did this.Oh wait, now you got hired personally
by groups that might have been atretreats, but they were private groups.
So it was this group, butthey were YPO chapter couple retreats. That's
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right. That's like the Costa Ricaone for my birthday last year, so
same organization, but it's different,so it's different levels. So I do
I do full chapter events like withthe members and spouses, like for Valentine's
events. Then sometimes I'm hired togo to places and do couples retreats,
which is you know, smaller groupsthat's anywhere from you know, maybe fifteen
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to good be up to sixty.I've had some big couples retreats. And
then now this is smaller groups specificallyof forums, it's usually about eight members.
Like I said, has they arevery bonded. They really work on
vulnerability and confidentiality and conflict resolution,and just like super impressive me somebody that's
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been in these fields for decades,and I'm very The more I get into
like hypo and see how they dothings, I'm just super impressed. Like
it's really neat, and so it'sneat for me. I get to come
in. I get to help themgo deeper with vulnerability and communication with their
forum groups, so they're getting moreout of their meeting each month. Because
if you think these are like reallyhigh level people who are prioritizing four hours
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once a month, sometimes they haveto like leave a business trip to fly
back to be with their forum inperson. So people really commit to this
and if you want to get themost value out of it personally, professionally,
you know. So I'm helping themdo that, and then I'm often
being hired now for these retreats tothen also teach relationship and intimacy stuff to
help them in their marriages. Yeah, so this is am I right,
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It's almost like another example. Butlet's just say in the construction business,
right, let's say you're a rooferand you had, you know, word
of mouth people would randomly call yourbusiness, Ay, come do my roof,
but then all of a sudden youget referred to, say Jack in
the box, and they say,okay, we want you to do all
of our roofs throughout the country whenwe need them done. Is it kind
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of like that because you're now you'renow their girl or yes and no,
and that I am on their websiteand like in their database, so they
could, but we do not getany guaranteed work, so they only accept
you already have to have a lotof connections into YPO, Like a lot
of the CFF actually are YPO membersor spouses of YPO members who have been
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informs and they were so moved bythe experience of what they learned that they
want to Even though these people don'tneed the money, you know, like
they're doing well, they want tobe able to help facilitate this for other
other people. So so no,you don't. There's no guaranteed work,
but so you need to do goodwork and already have connections and people who
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are going to pass your name around, but there's no formal like, Okay,
Jen's up next, somebody needs aretreat. Jen's name is at the
top of the list. Now youtake her. There's nothing definite like that,
so it's still it's still like hustlingin a subtle way. So anyway,
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and you know, and what sofar I had, You know,
I only got official stamp of approvalat like, you know, my certificate
around it at the end of Januaryand already mid March, in the week
I came back from Italy, Ihad my first two retreats huge and they
went fantastically, one in la andone in Austin, and they went so
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well, and the feedback was sostrong, and already people are like,
like the people who hired me specificallyfor it for their group, they're called
moderators. They were like, ohmy god, I will totally be passing
your name on so like and that'show it works. So yeah, but
what's neat is and then I justbooked two more for May already, wow,
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and which is great. And whatevery almost every group, not all
but most most of them that havebeen popping up, like, once they
find out my specialty area, they'relike, oh, yeah, we would
love to hear that. Also,oh, like we weren't looking for that
specifically, but we would love tohave an expert talk on that. So
it's neat. So I think it'syou know, it's helping me get events.
But the reason I'm mentioning this,what's what's super unique about this style
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of like facilitation is I mean alwayswhen I'm teaching, I always share some
personal examples or stories that come tomind, just to you know, be
vulnerable with folks. And if Ithink not that I'm not to talk about
myself too much, like it's afine line, but to share stories that
I think will resonate with people.But part of my facilitation of these forum
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groups is I am supposed to needby example in terms of vulnerability and authenticity,
and so when I am doing activitieswith them with really personal sharing,
I need to model that for them. And so it is like each time
I'm preparing for one of these retreats, I was like, oh man,
I'm digging deep here, but Iwill say it totally freaking worked. I
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like brought up this, you know, and two of them that I had
in that first week. I broughtup the same like relationship stuck point in
my in my relationship with Reuben andsomething that I it was around sexual topics.
I don't want to go into details, but for his sake in that,
like, you know, hey,I joke sometimes, I was like,
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you should listen to the podcast.You don't know what I'm saying about.
But yeah, and something I wasstuck in that I wanted to bring
up, but then I'd sort offelt thwarted in the past and I felt
out of integrity with that. Itdidn't feel like who I want to be,
and so I shared that with thesegroups and then was able to kind
of pull apart more layers to it. And it feels incredibly vulnerable, like
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at a whole other level than I'veever done excuse me and teaching and facilitation.
But then it's powerful, you know, it sets the tone. You're
like, oh shit, if she'swilling to do it and she doesn't even
know us, like and we knoweach other and trust each other, like,
let's do it. So anyway,it's just been interesting. And then
it totally helped because then two daysafter that, the second retreat, I
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totally brought up the conversation topic withReuben and so it totally did Yeah,
and it's good and we're talking aboutit now, and so I was like,
ah, this shit really works.So it's neat. It's neat that
I you know, I'm it works, I need to work it to best
model it. And then like it'sgenuinely helping my life and relationships. That's
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all. So yeah, it's reallycool. How are you in the rubes
doing? We're doing good? Hasanybody called them the rubes? No?
Please, it sounds sounds like cubes. Cool? All right, how about
this then, instead of rubes therube? The rube? No, I
don't does mean like a negative thing. Oh, I don't know. Hold
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on, you know what is it? Is it rube? Hold on?
Now I'm looking back. What amI thinking of? I know you're you're
a chaired roube or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah rube? Okay,
No, that is not good forhim. I meant it as a it
says what's it says? An awkward, unsophisticated person, A naive or inexperienced
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person. He is all but that, Okay, he's not a rube.
That's funny. Now I need toask him if anyone ever has used that
term. When I said rubes atfirst, that guy games, well,
this almost sounds awful. That's sofunny. No, we are we're going
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to his son's minary school talent showtonight. You must love him. You
know what I did say? Iwas like, can we sit in the
back, like on the aisle sowell, because the thing is its supposed
to be ninety minutes, And Iwas like, okay, fine, uh
huh. Apparently though there are fortyfive kids or groups of kids that are
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supposed to go, and they eachhave two minutes. Okay, that's ninety
minutes on its own, with notransition time on to the stage and off
the stage, and so the planningclearly can only somebody who hasn't done event
planning, like I've done tons ofevent planning and continue to do it anyway.
Yeah, so I was like,oh my gosh, is this gonna
be like three hours? He's like, yeah, babe, it could be
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because he told me not to come, and I was like, you know
what, I want to go.I mean, this is when we don't
get a lot of nights together,and I was like, I want to
hang out with you. I gosome of it could be like gems of
material idea, I got an idea. Okay, okay, you want to
make your man's naughty. He wasletting me off the book Oh yeah,
he would be upset at all ifI didn't go as you stated. Sit
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in the back as far as youcan sit in the furthest corner possible,
the darkest corner. Get my handywhile you're watching, Oh, at the
elementary school, as long as there'sno children watching. Oh, Mike,
right, there's no children at anelementary school. No parents are in the
audience. They're all scared stiff thestage yet no, no, no,
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but their siblings are in the audience. Yeah, so that's not gonna work.
No, Okay, Okay, PlanB what chat ept is way better
than you are for ideas. Wait, I got another one. Plan be
handy in the car on the waythere. Okay, it's pretty short.
It's it's like less than a fiveminute drive. Okay, well, I
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don't know what can you imagine?You image? Actually, he's so,
he's gonna leave work early. He'sgonna come home. He's gonna pick me
up. I met his house rightnow today, working from here. He's
gonna pick me up. We're gonnahave less than five minutes to a son's
school. And then I'm gonna sayI'm gonna grab his crotch and he's gonna
say what are you doing? AndI'm gonna say Clint told me to do
this. I either be his mortalenemy or his best friend. I want
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to do it. See oh mygod. Well And the only thing is
he can't even say why are youand Clint talking about that? Because he
knows we talk about that. Iwas like, it's called sex talk,
just saying okay, do you haveany ideas that don't involve anything any sexual
touching. I want to see ifI can get wait that don't involve any
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sexual touching. Yes, how aboutrub his neck on the way over and
just give him a little massage onthe way over while you're watching the show.
I totally do those things already.Yeah, I like that, that's
nice, kiss him on the temple, and maybe just during the show,
say I'm happy to be here withyou. Okay, those are all things
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I do already. You're not makingit any better. What I think perfect.
What I kind of feel like doingis that I want to bring a
notebook. And like every time Igo to some of his kids things,
I feel like I because I'm notin this world at all, and it
is an interesting world of children todayand parenting today. And such, So
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I always feel like I learned newthings, and as a sociologist, it
gives me sort of insights. SoI feel like I want to go as
like a sociologist and then that makesme feel better because I'm like gathering data
for something. Hmm. Yeah,maybe your plan's just the best I'm trying
to think of anything. I know. Yours are definitely more exciting and potentially
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uh you know, leading to thepolice being called. So maybe after the
show, I'm assuming it's you guysleaving alone. Yes, say take the
long route home and then you givethem him. It's so funny because it's
just like this one like street shotroad. Okay, there's a lot of
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handies. I see somebody's a littlestuck on handies right now. Massage.
I guess I'm the temple. I'mhappy to be here with you. I
think that's what we you know.Yeah, you could go in the direction
of like I could whisper inappropriate likelike BDSM kinky stuff. You know what
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I can't do here right now becausewe're in a child's place. Of course
that sounds creepy. Yeah, Ijust creep myself totally does Yeah, that
was really there. As a parent. Okay, okay, we have done
with this conversation. Now do youhave anything else you'd like to say?
And I see we have eight minutesbefore we're gonna No. I just want
to move on from that last reallybad comic because even when I said it,
I almost really uncomfortable. I feela little dirty now too. You
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have that impact on women that,oh, don't talk to my friend like
that. Wait, no, don'ttalk to your friend like that. There
you go. Yeah, shoot,anyway, that's fun though. You know.
I didn't used to be in thetheater until my boys and my wife
and you to go their first show, Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor dream Coat.
They were they were ensemble, andthis was years ago. The boys
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just started theater. It was theirfirst role, no speaking part. I
think one was like a tree andthe other one was like some part of
a I don't know, like aplant. And I remember in front of
the theater, Oh, I stuckon one of the other dads, and
the boys are getting ready in theback, and I'm kind of excited to
see it because I want to bewith my family and I want to support
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my boys. But I'm not intotheater at all. And I'm sure as
hell not into musicals, and Iknew nothing about this, so suddenly I
go, hey, so I knowthey don't have any speaking parts, but
you know there's probably some cool scenesin here, right, like with the
kids are And she goes, oh, honey, no, there's like almost
zero speaking parts. I said,what do you mean? And the guy
the dad, goes, oh,it's a musical. It's all music.
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And I myself, Oh, Iliterally I didn't mask my reaction. I
go what and he goes he kindof looks at me funny. And my
wife looks at me and I go, ell, did you get me into
serious? I go, I don'tlike musicals so annoying? Yeah, but
now I do ya that's good.You know what, I get frustrated because
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I am I like clear communication,as you know that. I'm all about,
like say the thing and say itclearly, and I'm all about teaching
people how to clearly communicate. Andyou put that together with the fact that
I'm not good at hearing lyrics.I listened to songs, It's very hard
for me to pull out words andmeaning. And so you put those two
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things together when you're in a musicaland then like the person starts singing something.
I was like, just say thething, say the thing, don't
sing the thing, and so it'slike a double whammy to me. I
actually feel frustrated and I can't thenfollow it because I can't I don't hear
it. Well, it's really somethinginteresting about how my brain works, and
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like a limitation what it has.I mean, And I know I am
a better visual learner. I retainthings better that way. Yeah, but
the same way. But it's overtime, I've gotten really into it now.
Of course, there's a difference betweena professional production and a production that
is not, and it can justdepends on the age range and the quality
of the microphones and the sound systemthat that theater has, because let me
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tell you, when the music's tooloud for the for the kids singing or
talking, or too loaded back boy, let me tell you, I used
to sit at some of those showstill they fix the issues and I just
be stopping my foot like, ohmy god, I'm gonna fall asleep.
But yeah, overall, no joke. I've learned to love it over the
years, Like I wouldn't miss oneof my boys shows were boys are very
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talented also. So oh and myson Gavin just got accepted to BOCO Boston
Conservative, and so I think it'sfifth or sixth school he's gotten accepted to.
Now he's going to decide between BOCO, Fullerton, Manhattan School of Music,
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and I think those are the threeI know. I don't think.
I know. Boco's is number one, Fullerton's number two, MSM's number three.
But it, you know, dayto day, I could shift.
It just depends on what kind offinancial aid he can get, if any
you know that. So, yeah, congrat it's a proud father. Oh
yeah, he's you know. Inever read to you my my thing when
he turned eighteen. Oh you readthe one from your son like two years
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ago. How about we do thatnext week? Oh my god, I
love it. Please do because rememberI actually posted that to my ended up
posting that to my blog, andI loved that piece. This one was
even tougher because I didn't want torepeat. Yes, but I feel the
same way about both boys. It'slike I don't want to put the same
thing I love. I laughed withmy wife for a minute because I did
it last minute, because I keptputting on because I'm like, I don't
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know what else to say. Imean, this thing, Ray, I
said, maybe I just copy andpaste and just put a smiley face.
And you know, of course Iwas kidding, but it kind of it
turned out okay. You know,oh, I would love to hear it.
That's awesome. Good okay, Andthen we need to h yeah,
we need to get some sexy topics. Yeah, we do. I'll have
some next week. I'm actually gettinga few of those with my morning show
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prep oddly enough, so I willmake that. Then I have a couple
of those. Great. I'm tryingto think if I have any Yeah,
I've been you know, I hireda PR woman for the first time,
like a little over two months ago, and she's doing fantastic and getting me
all sorts of like you know,media interviews and all. So I'll have
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to think if any of those seemparticularly good for us to discuss on the
show as well. All right,this is planning behind the scenes in front
of the microphone. I know,I was thinking that. I was like,
man, it's on my mind.I'll just say it right now.
There we go. It's funny.I almost said, do you I'm gonna
stop recording. We're good, allright. Do you take phone calls?
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I mean, I don't know whatyou're talking about. I've never done that.
Oh my god, you've answered thepump from your dad multiple times,
lots of buddies, Hey buddy,Yeah, I don't remember that. You're
so foolish. All right, doctorJen, have a great day, have
a fun time tonight at the threeHour Show. Shu
All right, doctor jan we gotsome stuff to talk about today. I
want some advice from your health wise. Ah well, first of all,
you look like you got a haircut. You look very stugly. It looks
good. She's thank you very much. Are you drinking? When did you
get a haircut? Let's come,uh, thank you. I got a
haircut. Today's Thursday. On Sunday. Nope, Saturday. Nice, Thank
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you very much. You're welcome.Almost made fun of myself, but I
thought, nope, I don't talk. Oh, I know, it's funny.
There's just like awkward pauses when you'relike gonna make fun. I think
maybe I'm used to you making fun. You're waiting right, yeah, and
there's just this sort of like awkwardlike okay, that conversation went nowhere.
I was gonna say, I can'tfix my face, but then I thought,
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don't talk to me anyway. Thereyou did. It's all we know.
All right, Okay, wait,wait, what's going on? Healthwise?
So last Thursday night, five o'clock, I get a massage. And
I've had a massage from this girl. I am fantastic. She's wonderful.
She does in home visits. Mywife and I each get her. I
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don't know, once every five weeksor so. I'm not even sure.
Okay, and really good. Well, she's never used this. I think
it's called guasha or something. It'sa it's a scraping tool. It's like
a stick that you like a likescraping is different than rubbing deeply. Well,
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this is rubbing deeply, but mywife calls it scraping, so I
don't know that interesting. Okay,So it's I didn't get a good look
at it, but it looked likea dowl almost, not like a roll.
But she treats it like a youknow, to push and really break
up the tense areas of your body. And she spent of the hour.
I'll bet she spent thirty minutes onjust my lats and my neck. She
said, you are so tight,it's unbelievable. And I go, okay,
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she goes, I'm breaking up theyou know, the lymphatic fluids and
the blood. We got to raiseit to the surface. She was also
cupping, and she was also doingmassage in between that butt. Oh wow,
let me tell you, with thisthing, my wife loves it hurt
when she was doing it, notreally Oh wow, Okay, it was.
It was intense, but no,and for me what hurt was when
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she used her hands on my forearms, they felt like steel vices clamping.
So I had to help tell hertwice she's a strong old thing, yeah
that hey, it feels like you'regetting to the bone. And she's like,
oh, okay, sorry, butthis was after this tool that was
used. Well, she says,drink a lot of water, taking up
some bath and I said okay.So that night I go to bed and
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I'm like, oh man, yuck. I wake up in the morning,
I feel like absolute horse shit.And so now this is Friday morning,
so I have to go to work. I can't, you know, and
like so like like, I mean, because it's one thing to feel super
super sore and aching on the muscleslike you felt bad inside. Yes,
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this was this was flu like symptoms, probably from the toxins that were you
know, now out and about inmy body and trying to release. I
was literally just going to say,I was like, let me just guess
they told you that it's because ofthe toxins being released and you're gonna feel
worse before you feel better, andthat means it's working. Yeah. No,
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I know, there's a lot ofthat out there. Do you understand
that's like literally, and so ifyou feel good, they're like, it
worked, And if you feel bad, they're like it worked. Do you
understand like it's literally kind of meaningless. Okay, so here's my thing.
I woke up that next morning eyeballshurting, just like the flu. Like
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when I look up and left andaround, Oh my god, my head,
oh all the way down my traps, my back, everything, and
my knees and my tops of myfeet. It was like what the I
felt like I was in a fight, and so went to work. Probably
shouldn't have thought, Okay, atleast it's the weekend. Went to the
shop in the morning and felt likecrap as well slight nausea. I have
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no appetite whatsoever. I have nothad coffee since Thursday, well until today
today, I have, you know, me with coffee. Yeah, and
I because I felt like nothing.I'll bet if I get on the scale,
I'll bet I've lost ten pounds,like I ate, maybe the equivalent
of a meal a day. Maybe, Well, did you have a fever?
So it felt like it did whenmy face was burning and it was
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sweating, But then i'd get intothese uncon Remember I told you about the
uncontrollable chills, and I'd be like, you get couldn't even hold my tooth.
Remember this happened like when I hadCOVID before, about a year and
a half ago, years ago.Other people Okay, yeah, oh my
god. So it was both ofthose things. And so yeah, So
this is going on all the wayuntil this morning, and maybe until about
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midway through yesterday. So I thoughtI turned a corner last Sunday at six
oh five pm. And I rememberthat because I went, oh my god,
something's happening. I'm good. Oh. And then that night, Nope,
not good. Monday light crap,Tuesday light crap, Wednesday light crow.
I was like, damn it.And then I took an eb some
salt bath lab this night and thenight before and the night before last really
helped nice. And I started sweating, which was good. And then yesterday
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morning in the studio, when Iwas sweating through my shirt, that's when
I started feeling better. I'm like, oh, oh yeah, please please,
I don't care how I look upright now, how well, I
let's do this. And then middaythrough the day yesterday, I was still
goodish, but not perfect. Today'sa marked improvement right now. I don't
want to slip back into that.But I'm just weak. I'm very I
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get fatigued very easily. Yeah,And I don't know, man that I
just I'm not going to do itagain. And I'm also I would say,
i'm I think it's coincidental timing.I don't think it's related to that.
I think that's a whole lot ofBS that's out there in the woo
wooh holistic health world. I thinkit's just I think it just happens to
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be timing. Like honestly, onthe day of it, you know,
the day before you got sick,you could have gone and like gone for
a jog for the first time.You know you haven't done that forever.
You could have gone for a longbike ride. You could have had something
else, and you're like, ohmy god. I think it's from that.
I don't know, I get that. But here's the thing. I
also have dry mouth cotton mouth nomatter how much I drink water. No,
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I think you're sick. I thinkyou got a virus. I think
you got to you had a virusthat kicked in and you've been very sick,
You've been fighting something. Yeah forseven days. No, I know,
but my point being is like,yes, clearly you are very sick
and you have something. Your bodyis fighting something, but I don't think
it's from that treatment, is whatI'm gonna say. Okay, well then
there we go either way. AllI know is this. I'm just glad
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I'm on the mend, still weakbut improving, because that was absolutely miserable.
And yeah, I'm going into work. Was stupid. I didn't miss
a day or work. Yeah,and getting up, I mean hell,
there was a cup of morning deo. I get up at like three forty
five, that's right. Yeah,And I stood in front of the in
front of the mirror, put myhands on the counter to just rest for
a second. And I don't I'mnot gonna say I was gonna pass out,
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but I was feeling just shit.And I was like, whoa,
whoa, whoa, what's going onhere? So it sucked. It just
sucked. But I called my doctor. He said, you're dehydrated. And
I gotta be honest. I likemy doctor a lot, but he was
not much helping this. He wason the phone and he just kept saying
drink more water. I'm like,yeah, but I got dry mouth,
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tops on my feet hurt. Now. I had another buddy who told me.
He goes, look, dude,my son's got diabetes. He goes,
that's every sign of diabetes. Hegoes, if that continues, go
get seen. And I'm like,yeah, but I had a blood draw
last year completely clean. It wasn'teven close. He goes, well,
my next physical is I think amonth from now. Wait wait, wait,
can we can we use chat CHEAPTfour right now to type in and
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see what it thinks was going onfor you? Sure? Yeah, okay,
wait web MD now CHATCHPT four Okay, so tell me. Okay,
my friend Flint, who is howold are you? Fifty four? Fifty
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four years old, was recently sickwith an odd group of symptoms including go
ahead, achy eyeballs, No,that's so weird, headache from front to
back, achy balls, hold on, headache from front to back, okay,
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top of feet, hurting, topof feet when I would stand up,
yes, but not when I wasa while walking or anything standing.
Okay. Super bad chills, uncontrollablechills, and then hot face with with
a little bit of sweat. Hotface with some sweat, and then uh,
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super sensitive on my back, likeif I leaned even against the car
seat, it was like I hadto be like soft. That to me
definitely is probably from the treatment,but we will because you know, you
could have been super you could havebeen achy muscle achy from that. But
then you've got all of this otherstuff going on. I feel like you
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said something else that we missed achyeyeballs, just like overall fatigue. I
presume, oh yeah, fatigue slightnausea, not oh that's it, slight
nausea maybe maybe more like upset stomach, almost almost repulsed for food or anything.
Okay, the pulse just had nono desire to eat. Okay,
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you know for me that's big ideahrmouth, that's it. Okay. I
knew there was a couple more soupputs super dry like it's dry now any
frye mouth, and didn't change anyother like drugs or anything like that.
I am on bactrum. I'm onbactrum. Uh before you started that,
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before this, I did bactrum andI took the last one this morning,
bactrum antibiotic. Because of my PSAtest. He wanted to see if there's
a any kind of infection in there, because if my PSA test goes down
when I take it another week anda half. Because when I finished today,
now a week from tomorrow, Ican go in and take the A
p s A blood drag in andif it's down, he said, okay,
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then it's an infection. If not, he's going in through my unit
with a oh yeah, yeah.I'm not looking forward to that, but
I want to make sure I knowwhat's going on here. Trump, Wait,
is a side effective bactrum dry mouth? I feel like it is.
I don't know for some time.When you said that, I was like,
I feel like I know that name. Okay, okay, I said
I. So I taped that allin and I asked chat GPT, what
are your top five ideas of what'sgoing on? And chat GPT is saying,
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your friend Clint. Symptoms are quitediverse, affecting multiple systems in the
body, which can make pinpointing theexact cause challenging without a medical examination.
However, I can offer some possibilitiesbased on the symptoms. It's essential to
console to healthcare professional. YadA,YadA, YadA, okay. One viral
infection thank you very much. Manyof Clint's symptoms, such as headache,
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chill, sensitivity, fatigue, andupsets stomach are common, and viral infections
like the flu or other respiratory viruses. Viruses can cause a range of symptoms
and often affect multiple body parts.Second dehydration, there's your doctor. Symptoms
like dry mouth, headache, feelingoverly tired can also undertake dehydration, especially
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if he has a decreased desire ofeating and has been sweating. Autoimmune disorders,
some of them, can cause widespreadinflammation in the body, leading to
diverse symptoms including pain in various bodyparts, sensitivity, fatigue, and digestive
issues. Conditions such as lupus orrheumatoid arthritis can have varied presentations. For
thyroid disorders, an overactive or underactivethyroid can lead to a host of symptoms,
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including sensitivity to heat or cold,fatigue, digestive issues, changes,
an appetite fibromyalgia. This is characterizedby ryot must go. But are you
You're feeling better though? Yeah?Yeah, today's like the first marked improvement.
Yeah. Any memory issues with it? Last week? I mean I'm
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slower in my thinking. I'll tellyou that and my in the studio,
I'm having, like have Sarah repeatthings a couple of times just because I'm
tired. Right, that's the thing. So anyway, I will chat GPT
show that I am not just adoctor of sex, the doctor of Clint's
ailment. You're a doctor of chat. Well thank you for that, doctor
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Jen. I know nothing more thanI did just about ten minutes ago.
You know you should listen to me. That is what I learned from that.
Oh man, all right, I'msorry. That's really crappy, like
really crappy. Wow, let metell you. I'll probably get on the
sk tomorrow morning. Though. Whatam I? Ronning Dandeville? Let me
tell you what? All right?But what about you, Yea? With
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some of your work? Yeah,well it's been so I can't remember how
detailed I've gotten about this on ourshow or not so last so i've you
know, most of my speaking workat this point has been with an organization
called YPO Young President's Organization, butyoung being in under fifty and so these
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it's a worldwide organization of CEOs whomake it from a young age because they
have to be kind of accepted intoa chapter before age forty five, and
they're CEOs of multimillion dollar companies withusually at least fifty employees. So these
are you know, high level folkswho have made it at a young age,
but then they can also stay inthe organization once they turn fifty.
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So I have been slowly getting intothis a my name being passed around specifically
for YEPO events for like Valentine's eventsand a sex game show I do.
And so I've been, you know, I travel around the US doing this.
I've done some in Europe. I'vedone some virtually. Last year I
had one for a Tanzania chapter andI did it virtually. So anyway,
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part of what hypos are particularly knownfor is that every hypo member and a
chapter, say there's one hundred peoplein a chapter, each of those people
is going to be in a smallgroup called a forum that has between six
and ten members. They meet oncea month. They have for four hours,
and they have a very specific structurethey follow through and they like adhere
to confidentiality at a level that evenblew my mind as an intimacy coach for
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the past sixteen years. And anyway, they have a specific structure and conversation
style that helps facilitate vulnerability and authenticityand helping them dig at what's keeping them
from being better leaders, better partners, happier, more successful, better parents,
all of those things, because theyreally are focused on the big person.
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So while these are very successful peoplein the world and in their companies
and in their communities, they reallywant to focus on the big person.
So that's where you know, I'vebeen brought in for couples events and communication
events. But last year I gotaccepted into a program to get trained as
something that's called a CFF, aCertified Forum Facilitator where I specifically am hired
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to come in and speak to thesesmall group forums of only about eight members
and where I have more time togo deeper with them for like four hours
or for a day, like doingretreats with them. And so I got
accepted into the program. It's quitea competitive program people from around the world.
There's like one hundred and forty fiveof us now cffs around the world
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for over you know, for almostforty thousand YPO members around the world,
So it's a kind of exclusive group. Hard to get in, hard application.
I got trained last fall. That'swhy I was in Portugal last December
for the in person training, andso I passed the virtual training. I
passed the in person and so Iam off to the races and I'm still
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getting coaching and stuff around it,but I'm already getting hired for retreats,
which is fantastic because go ahead,well I know you wait, maybe I
didn't understand before you did this.Oh wait, now you got hired personally
by groups that might have been atretreats, but they were private groups.
So it was this group, butthey were YPO chapter couple retreats. That's
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right. That's like the Costa Ricaone for my birthday last year, so
same organization, but it's different,so it's different levels. So I do
I do full chapter events like withthe members and spouses, like for Valentine's
events. Then sometimes I'm hired togo to places and do couples retreats,
which is you know, smaller groupsthat's anywhere from you know, maybe fifteen
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to good be up to sixty.I've had some big couples retreats. And
then now this is smaller groups specificallyof forums, it's usually about eight members.
Like I said, has they arevery bonded. They really work on
vulnerability and confidentiality and conflict resolution,and just like super impressive me somebody that's
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been in these fields for decades,and I'm very The more I get into
like hypo and see how they dothings, I'm just super impressed. Like
it's really neat, and so it'sneat for me. I get to come
in. I get to help themgo deeper with vulnerability and communication with their
forum groups, so they're getting moreout of their meeting each month. Because
if you think these are like reallyhigh level people who are prioritizing four hours
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once a month, sometimes they haveto like leave a business trip to fly
back to be with their forum inperson. So people really commit to this
and if you want to get themost value out of it personally, professionally,
you know. So I'm helping themdo that, and then I'm often
being hired now for these retreats tothen also teach relationship and intimacy stuff to
help them in their marriages. Yeah, so this is am I right,
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It's almost like another example. Butlet's just say in the construction business,
right, let's say you're a rooferand you had, you know, word
of mouth people would randomly call yourbusiness, Ay, come do my roof,
but then all of a sudden youget referred to, say Jack in
the box, and they say,okay, we want you to do all
of our roofs throughout the country whenwe need them done. Is it kind
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of like that because you're now you'renow their girl or yes and no,
and that I am on their websiteand like in their database, so they
could, but we do not getany guaranteed work, so they only accept
you already have to have a lotof connections into YPO, Like a lot
of the CFF actually are YPO membersor spouses of YPO members who have been
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informs and they were so moved bythe experience of what they learned that they
want to Even though these people don'tneed the money, you know, like
they're doing well, they want tobe able to help facilitate this for other
other people. So so no,you don't. There's no guaranteed work,
but so you need to do goodwork and already have connections and people who
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are going to pass your name around, but there's no formal like, Okay,
Jen's up next, somebody needs aretreat. Jen's name is at the
top of the list. Now youtake her. There's nothing definite like that,
so it's still it's still like hustlingin a subtle way. So anyway,
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and you know, and what sofar I had, You know,
I only got official stamp of approvalat like, you know, my certificate
around it at the end of Januaryand already mid March, in the week
I came back from Italy, Ihad my first two retreats huge and they
went fantastically, one in la andone in Austin, and they went so
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well, and the feedback was sostrong, and already people are like,
like the people who hired me specificallyfor it for their group, they're called
moderators. They were like, ohmy god, I will totally be passing
your name on so like and that'show it works. So yeah, but
what's neat is and then I justbooked two more for May already, wow,
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and which is great. And whatevery almost every group, not all
but most most of them that havebeen popping up, like, once they
find out my specialty area, they'relike, oh, yeah, we would
love to hear that. Also,oh, like we weren't looking for that
specifically, but we would love tohave an expert talk on that. So
it's neat. So I think it'syou know, it's helping me get events.
But the reason I'm mentioning this,what's what's super unique about this style
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of like facilitation is I mean alwayswhen I'm teaching, I always share some
personal examples or stories that come tomind, just to you know, be
vulnerable with folks. And if Ithink not that I'm not to talk about
myself too much, like it's afine line, but to share stories that
I think will resonate with people.But part of my facilitation of these forum
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groups is I am supposed to needby example in terms of vulnerability and authenticity,
and so when I am doing activitieswith them with really personal sharing,
I need to model that for them. And so it is like each time
I'm preparing for one of these retreats, I was like, oh man,
I'm digging deep here, but Iwill say it totally freaking worked. I
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like brought up this, you know, and two of them that I had
in that first week. I broughtup the same like relationship stuck point in
my in my relationship with Reuben andsomething that I it was around sexual topics.
I don't want to go into details, but for his sake in that,
like, you know, hey,I joke sometimes, I was like,
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you should listen to the podcast.You don't know what I'm saying about.
But yeah, and something I wasstuck in that I wanted to bring
up, but then I'd sort offelt thwarted in the past and I felt
out of integrity with that. Itdidn't feel like who I want to be,
and so I shared that with thesegroups and then was able to kind
of pull apart more layers to it. And it feels incredibly vulnerable, like
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at a whole other level than I'veever done excuse me and teaching and facilitation.
But then it's powerful, you know, it sets the tone. You're
like, oh shit, if she'swilling to do it and she doesn't even
know us, like and we knoweach other and trust each other, like,
let's do it. So anyway,it's just been interesting. And then
it totally helped because then two daysafter that, the second retreat, I
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totally brought up the conversation topic withReuben and so it totally did Yeah,
and it's good and we're talking aboutit now, and so I was like,
ah, this shit really works.So it's neat. It's neat that
I you know, I'm it works, I need to work it to best
model it. And then like it'sgenuinely helping my life and relationships. That's
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all. So yeah, it's reallycool. How are you in the rubes
doing? We're doing good? Hasanybody called them the rubes? No?
Please, it sounds sounds like cubes. Cool? All right, how about
this then, instead of rubes therube? The rube? No, I
don't does mean like a negative thing. Oh, I don't know. Hold
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on, you know what is it? Is it rube? Hold on?
Now I'm looking back. What amI thinking of? I know you're you're
a chaired roube or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah rube? Okay,
No, that is not good forhim. I meant it as a it
says what's it says? An awkward, unsophisticated person, A naive or inexperienced
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person. He is all but that, Okay, he's not a rube.
That's funny. Now I need toask him if anyone ever has used that
term. When I said rubes atfirst, that guy games, well,
this almost sounds awful. That's sofunny. No, we are we're going
(23:56):
to his son's minary school talent showtonight. You must love him. You
know what I did say? Iwas like, can we sit in the
back, like on the aisle sowell, because the thing is its supposed
to be ninety minutes, And Iwas like, okay, fine, uh
huh. Apparently though there are fortyfive kids or groups of kids that are
(24:21):
supposed to go, and they eachhave two minutes. Okay, that's ninety
minutes on its own, with notransition time on to the stage and off
the stage, and so the planningclearly can only somebody who hasn't done event
planning, like I've done tons ofevent planning and continue to do it anyway.
Yeah, so I was like,oh my gosh, is this gonna
be like three hours? He's like, yeah, babe, it could be
(24:42):
because he told me not to come, and I was like, you know
what, I want to go.I mean, this is when we don't
get a lot of nights together,and I was like, I want to
hang out with you. I gosome of it could be like gems of
material idea, I got an idea. Okay, okay, you want to
make your man's naughty. He wasletting me off the book Oh yeah,
he would be upset at all ifI didn't go as you stated. Sit
(25:04):
in the back as far as youcan sit in the furthest corner possible,
the darkest corner. Get my handywhile you're watching, Oh, at the
elementary school, as long as there'sno children watching. Oh, Mike,
right, there's no children at anelementary school. No parents are in the
audience. They're all scared stiff thestage yet no, no, no,
(25:26):
but their siblings are in the audience. Yeah, so that's not gonna work.
No, Okay, Okay, PlanB what chat ept is way better
than you are for ideas. Wait, I got another one. Plan be
handy in the car on the waythere. Okay, it's pretty short.
It's it's like less than a fiveminute drive. Okay, well, I
(25:48):
don't know what can you imagine?You image? Actually, he's so,
he's gonna leave work early. He'sgonna come home. He's gonna pick me
up. I met his house rightnow today, working from here. He's
gonna pick me up. We're gonnahave less than five minutes to a son's
school. And then I'm gonna sayI'm gonna grab his crotch and he's gonna
say what are you doing? AndI'm gonna say Clint told me to do
this. I either be his mortalenemy or his best friend. I want
(26:11):
to do it. See oh mygod. Well And the only thing is
he can't even say why are youand Clint talking about that? Because he
knows we talk about that. Iwas like, it's called sex talk,
just saying okay, do you haveany ideas that don't involve anything any sexual
touching. I want to see ifI can get wait that don't involve any
(26:32):
sexual touching. Yes, how aboutrub his neck on the way over and
just give him a little massage onthe way over while you're watching the show.
I totally do those things already.Yeah, I like that, that's
nice, kiss him on the temple, and maybe just during the show,
say I'm happy to be here withyou. Okay, those are all things
(26:53):
I do already. You're not makingit any better. What I think perfect.
What I kind of feel like doingis that I want to bring a
notebook. And like every time Igo to some of his kids things,
I feel like I because I'm notin this world at all, and it
is an interesting world of children todayand parenting today. And such, So
(27:14):
I always feel like I learned newthings, and as a sociologist, it
gives me sort of insights. SoI feel like I want to go as
like a sociologist and then that makesme feel better because I'm like gathering data
for something. Hmm. Yeah,maybe your plan's just the best I'm trying
to think of anything. I know. Yours are definitely more exciting and potentially
(27:41):
uh you know, leading to thepolice being called. So maybe after the
show, I'm assuming it's you guysleaving alone. Yes, say take the
long route home and then you givethem him. It's so funny because it's
just like this one like street shotroad. Okay, there's a lot of
(28:03):
handies. I see somebody's a littlestuck on handies right now. Massage.
I guess I'm the temple. I'mhappy to be here with you. I
think that's what we you know.Yeah, you could go in the direction
of like I could whisper inappropriate likelike BDSM kinky stuff. You know what
(28:25):
I can't do here right now becausewe're in a child's place. Of course
that sounds creepy. Yeah, Ijust creep myself totally does Yeah, that
was really there. As a parent. Okay, okay, we have done
with this conversation. Now do youhave anything else you'd like to say?
And I see we have eight minutesbefore we're gonna No. I just want
to move on from that last reallybad comic because even when I said it,
I almost really uncomfortable. I feela little dirty now too. You
(28:51):
have that impact on women that,oh, don't talk to my friend like
that. Wait, no, don'ttalk to your friend like that. There
you go. Yeah, shoot,anyway, that's fun though. You know.
I didn't used to be in thetheater until my boys and my wife
and you to go their first show, Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor dream Coat.
They were they were ensemble, andthis was years ago. The boys
(29:15):
just started theater. It was theirfirst role, no speaking part. I
think one was like a tree andthe other one was like some part of
a I don't know, like aplant. And I remember in front of
the theater, Oh, I stuckon one of the other dads, and
the boys are getting ready in theback, and I'm kind of excited to
see it because I want to bewith my family and I want to support
(29:37):
my boys. But I'm not intotheater at all. And I'm sure as
hell not into musicals, and Iknew nothing about this, so suddenly I
go, hey, so I knowthey don't have any speaking parts, but
you know there's probably some cool scenesin here, right, like with the
kids are And she goes, oh, honey, no, there's like almost
zero speaking parts. I said,what do you mean? And the guy
the dad, goes, oh,it's a musical. It's all music.
(30:00):
And I myself, Oh, Iliterally I didn't mask my reaction. I
go what and he goes he kindof looks at me funny. And my
wife looks at me and I go, ell, did you get me into
serious? I go, I don'tlike musicals so annoying? Yeah, but
now I do ya that's good.You know what, I get frustrated because
(30:25):
I am I like clear communication,as you know that. I'm all about,
like say the thing and say itclearly, and I'm all about teaching
people how to clearly communicate. Andyou put that together with the fact that
I'm not good at hearing lyrics.I listened to songs, It's very hard
for me to pull out words andmeaning. And so you put those two
(30:45):
things together when you're in a musicaland then like the person starts singing something.
I was like, just say thething, say the thing, don't
sing the thing, and so it'slike a double whammy to me. I
actually feel frustrated and I can't thenfollow it because I can't I don't hear
it. Well, it's really somethinginteresting about how my brain works, and
(31:06):
like a limitation what it has.I mean, And I know I am
a better visual learner. I retainthings better that way. Yeah, but
the same way. But it's overtime, I've gotten really into it now.
Of course, there's a difference betweena professional production and a production that
is not, and it can justdepends on the age range and the quality
of the microphones and the sound systemthat that theater has, because let me
(31:30):
tell you, when the music's tooloud for the for the kids singing or
talking, or too loaded back boy, let me tell you, I used
to sit at some of those showstill they fix the issues and I just
be stopping my foot like, ohmy god, I'm gonna fall asleep.
But yeah, overall, no joke. I've learned to love it over the
years, Like I wouldn't miss oneof my boys shows were boys are very
(31:52):
talented also. So oh and myson Gavin just got accepted to BOCO Boston
Conservative, and so I think it'sfifth or sixth school he's gotten accepted to.
Now he's going to decide between BOCO, Fullerton, Manhattan School of Music,
(32:12):
and I think those are the threeI know. I don't think.
I know. Boco's is number one, Fullerton's number two, MSM's number three.
But it, you know, dayto day, I could shift.
It just depends on what kind offinancial aid he can get, if any
you know that. So, yeah, congrat it's a proud father. Oh
yeah, he's you know. Inever read to you my my thing when
he turned eighteen. Oh you readthe one from your son like two years
(32:36):
ago. How about we do thatnext week? Oh my god, I
love it. Please do because rememberI actually posted that to my ended up
posting that to my blog, andI loved that piece. This one was
even tougher because I didn't want torepeat. Yes, but I feel the
same way about both boys. It'slike I don't want to put the same
thing I love. I laughed withmy wife for a minute because I did
it last minute, because I keptputting on because I'm like, I don't
(32:58):
know what else to say. Imean, this thing, Ray, I
said, maybe I just copy andpaste and just put a smiley face.
And you know, of course Iwas kidding, but it kind of it
turned out okay. You know,oh, I would love to hear it.
That's awesome. Good okay, Andthen we need to h yeah,
we need to get some sexy topics. Yeah, we do. I'll have
some next week. I'm actually gettinga few of those with my morning show
(33:21):
prep oddly enough, so I willmake that. Then I have a couple
of those. Great. I'm tryingto think if I have any Yeah,
I've been you know, I hireda PR woman for the first time,
like a little over two months ago, and she's doing fantastic and getting me
all sorts of like you know,media interviews and all. So I'll have
(33:44):
to think if any of those seemparticularly good for us to discuss on the
show as well. All right,this is planning behind the scenes in front
of the microphone. I know,I was thinking that. I was like,
man, it's on my mind.I'll just say it right now.
There we go. It's funny.I almost said, do you I'm gonna
stop recording. We're good, allright. Do you take phone calls?
(34:07):
I mean, I don't know whatyou're talking about. I've never done that.
Oh my god, you've answered thepump from your dad multiple times,
lots of buddies, Hey buddy,Yeah, I don't remember that. You're
so foolish. All right, doctorJen, have a great day, have
a fun time tonight at the threeHour Show. Shu
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