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November 18, 2025 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, as we know today, the House will vote on
whether or not to release the Epstein files. And then
the President said, let's go get these things released. He
did pivot on that. He was all about keeping it
quiet before I got to think that there's something in
there that somebody doesn't want getting out, joining us not
to talk a little bit more about this. Former CIA
Operations officer Adam Hartage, Adam, welcome back in thanks for

(00:21):
being here.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hey Jack, great talking again, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, there is a lot of salacious stuff going on,
and everybody's like, who slept with all these young girls?
Was it Zuckerberg? Was it Trump? Was it Clinton? What
about these heads of these corporations? And what about the
Hollywood stars? Yeah, it was a big party island if
it wasn't it? And now there's a bit more to this,
And I think there's a lot of people who thought, Okay,
you know this is salacious, but there is something deeper

(00:46):
going on here. And this guy was pure evil and
he did not kill himself, although they say I swear
he did. I don't believe he did. I think that
there's always been something more to this. But now, as
a former CIA operations officer, apparently the sagin all of
this was that you believe covert influence operation is hiding

(01:08):
and playing sight right here, what's going on with this
in your mind? Tell talk to me about your new book,
The Alpha Blueprint, and who alex Acosta? You know, what
did he mean when he said Epstein belongs to the
intelligence and talk to us about alex Acosta?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah? Well, so, first thanks for having me back. And secondly,
I will say what everything I'm about to say is
my opinion, and I don't I'm not in the government anymore.
I've been out for seven years. But nevertheless, I think
my opinion is fairly informed just because of my experience.
I've done four wars in twenty years. And I'll say this,

(01:51):
my impression is my opinion, which seems to be verified
by testimony, video emails, you know, I mean, on and
on and on. We've all known about this stuff years.
I had believe that Jeffrey Epstein ran the largest blackmail
operation political blackmail operation, probably in the world, or one of,
if not the largest, and I think he's got everybody

(02:12):
from you know, I don't want to, I mean, in
my opinion, to get sued Tom Hanks, you know, you
know all the names, right, I mean the former presidents.
I don't think that my opinion, I don't think that
there's anything with regard to the current president because of
their stance on it. But I have no idea. This

(02:34):
is the kind of stuff where I don't know if
you ever actually get to the bottom of this. I
do think that it was probably the worst human trafficking,
sexual exploitation, blackmail operation, you know. I mean we all
know that Epstein had cameras and bedrooms, and that he
would have celebrities out there and that they would be recorded,

(02:58):
you know, engaging these acts which could then be used
against them to leverage them to do whatever he wanted
to get done. I mean, it's kind of like it's
a nasty bit of business, but it's like one of
the oldest spy tricks in the book. And we supposedly
don't engage in this kind of stuff. I remember when
I was trained as an operator. I mean, that kind

(03:19):
of stuff was explicitly no, no, no, you don't ever
do stuff like that. You don't mess with the media,
you don't blackmail people, because as soon as you blackmail people,
you can't even know if you're actually getting real information
and then you know, you don't sleep with you know,
recruited sources, and you don't do all those kind of things.
But I mean maybe when you're at the lower level
like I was, maybe it's still all kind of like

(03:41):
Johnny Law and.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Good guy stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
But as you get deeper and deeper and deeper into
it and the more senior ranks, and maybe it gets dirtier.
I can't speak to that, but it does seem that
this was the worst. I think it's still going on.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Adam. Let me ask you this, who is alex Accostum?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Your guess is as good as mine, So it's uh.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I think there are people that that are.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
That are that are informed, that are uninformed their opinions,
and uh, I can't speak to Alex Acosta. I don't
know anything about them.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
But I do believe. But apparently he said that, you
know what, Epstein belonged to the intelligence. So if it's
a big blackmail ring, why who is he blackmailing? And
why just everybody just to have a lock on them?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Follow the money, right, always follow the money?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
So who who is going to be?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's going to be one of the big, you know, agencies,
and you can go back to I mean, you know,
it could be the you know, either one of the
major international intelligence agencies. I'm not going to name the
agencies obviously one I used to work for and and
our friends across the pulland and stuff. It could be
the political elite, the World Economic Forum. It could be

(05:02):
the federal you know, central cabal and bankers that you
know globally with money to fly.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
I mean that we get into real deep.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Conspiracy stuff here.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, I just I just looked up I just looked
up alex Acosta. Okay. He's a member of the Republican
Party appointed by President George W. Bush and he's a politician,
been involved in this for years, and you know, he
was in office from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. So

(05:36):
he has come out and said that he belonged to intelligence.
So when you talk about what intelligence in your world means,
you know, there's people protecting there's got to be people
protecting Epstein. So who or what was protecting Epstein and why?
You know you.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Let's see, I've seen the video that you're talking about
as well. It seems credible. I would not doubt that
there's top very very very powerful, very senior level folks
for their nefarious purposes. I don't I'm not going to
get down into the mud as far as who exactly,

(06:16):
because I don't have that's just all speculation.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Well, LaCosta was also the Acosta was also the US
attorney that you know, approved that plea deal that allowed
Epstein to you know, file the one charge of guilty
charge to a singles you know, state charge of solicitation
in exchange for a federal non prosecution agreement.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
So right, listen, I just can't speak with authority towards
that individual. I just so.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
But let's talk about.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
The broader issue, which is international blackmail, exploiting underage kids,
human trafficking, and what appears to be a very long
list of high profile, very powerful, well own individuals, some
of whom used to be leaders of our country being

(07:04):
compromised by this kind of stuff. And so in a
situation like that, where you have a total bankruptcy of morality, duty,
you know, adherence to their oath of office, all that stuff,
you lose complete credibility as a society and as a government.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Gosh, I mean, this thing is deeper than you can
even imagine. The people that go to the island to
hang out with partying people and get with girls. It's
just a tip of the iceberg. And once again I
got to ask you, Adam, who do you think is
you know covering up this the most? Now, obviously I
don't believe he killed himself Epstein, do you No.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I do not believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. I
don't believe that our current senior leadership out of DC
is being transparent or completely honest with us.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
What about the previous administry? What about THEE what about
the previous administrations? What about Let's start with you know,
Biden and go back and Barack Obama and Clinton.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Here's what I will say. I have heard Virginia jeffrase,
you know, basically on my death. This will be released tape,
and I'm sure many Americans have and she by name
names two former presidents Clinton and Obama.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
And it according to her testimony and even testimony that
she was that she gave. She said specifically that she
did spend time with President Trump at a party, but
they never there was no inappropriate conduct, and that he
actually was.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
She kind of cleared Trump on this, but she did
name Obama.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
To hold on, but then the deep state tried to
cover that up by remember they black out her name.
They just said victim claims this, and it's like no, no, no, no,
hold on, give us the whole thing. And the whole
thing was Yeah. Virginia testified that yes, she met Trump,
nothing untoward happened, but she also then testified that Clinton

(09:06):
was the worst and Obama was.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
There and liked little boys.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I don't know who has not seen the video of
the former president Obama on a boat driving out to
Little Saint James and there's a small appears to be
a young Chinese boy, pops his head up and Obama
literally pushes him back down. So I have seen that video.
Whether or not that was doctored, I don't know. This

(09:31):
seems to be before the world of deep fakes and
AI and everything else. But I mean this goes into
exactly what I mean. That's why I wrote the book
The Alpha Blueprint, because I'm trying to prepare the next generation.
I'm like, look, kids, you were not going to be
told the truth by the world about things. Everything that
you see from Instagram, you know, models, to you know,

(09:54):
filtered bodybuilders, to people in front of their car selling
their supposedly in front of their jet or their car
sell on their next high ticket course.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
All right, let me ask you. Let me ask you
about the vote they're about to vote today to release
the files. Okay, let's talk about that for a second.
If in fact we saw everything in these files with
no redactions whatsoever, would it explain everything about what went
on there and the blackmail that you believe was going on.
Would would would all come out there? Or is there
even more deep dark crap going on besides that?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Now? I don't believe it would. I don't believe it
would explain everything at all. I think with something like this,
probably a lot of things don't get written down, don't
get reported. I think that Jeffrey Epstein was running the
largest blackmail operation in the world. I think that it
is probably still ongoing. I don't believe that he killed himself.
I've seen hostage videos where the hostages were under less

(10:49):
arrest than it seemed that the current director, Bongino and
Cash Hotel were when they gave their video of Oh
he really killed himself. We swear there's no American to
believe that. In mind that I've ever talked, so, I
mean This is just the symptom of our society where
we are constantly treated like children who can't handle the truth.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Who do you believe? Your quick question? Who do you
believe today? Since Epstein is dead? Is the leader of
the cover up, the leader of let's keep this quiet,
the leader of oh no, this can't get out. Who's
the Obama? Somebody else?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I don't know. Well, this this, this is where you
start to get into where you know your this where
is where your deep state, your perma bureaucracy, your you know,
your senior level officials that they know that if there's
a president that comes in, all they have to do
and they don't like that president, let's say they just
have to wait four years. They got to wait the

(11:44):
president out and then they can get back to their games.
I mean that I saw that in the military over
a twenty year career, where I mean there would be
people that would be like, ah, we just got to
wait four years and then we'll get our way again.
And I'm like, what, it's not your way. You you're
you serve, you know at the pleasure you serve. There's
an oath of office.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
But right that that.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Line doesn't really play that well in the swamp, even
though they all claim to take their.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oath series well, Adam, I got to tell you, it's
very interesting. I'm not sure, as you said at the beginning,
we'll ever get to the bottom of everything on the
Epstein situation here. But your book, once again, it's called
the Alpha Blueprint, folks. Adam Hartage is the former ci
ops officer who wrote this book, and we'll talk again.
I'm sure Adam is more and more will come out

(12:32):
with the files, and then probably beyond that, they'll be
talking about this as long as they've been talking about
the JFK assassination. But Adam, thank you for being with me, buddy.
I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes, sir, please JT
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