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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have a new pope, an American Pope. Jonathan Savage,
our Fox correspondent, is live in Rome. Jonathan, good morning,
Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, good morning. An unbelievable moment of history.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Boy, I'll tell you exciting. Yesterdays we saw the White
Smoke and I think you know, Catholic kids in their
classrooms were watching this with baby breath in schools across
the country. And the excitement that just roared as this
pope was announced, being from Chicago, that's the first time ever.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It is the first North American pope and with the
second Pope from the Americas following on from Pope Francis yesterday.
I was in Saint Peter's Square when they made the announcement,
and the nurses made in Latin, so you're trying to
get your ear in just to pick out the name
amid the Latin if you don't speak Latin, and I
(00:49):
thought I heard Prevost. I thought, God, really we were
talking about him. The American is an outsider but not
really taking his chances very very seriously, because you know,
they they generally don't pick people from superpowers, and people
have said, oh, they'll never appoint in American America too powerful.
But yeah, that was people looked at each other and
(01:12):
then thought who what, and then just the ripple around
American American American just confirmed that it was Robert Prevost,
the first pope to come from the United States.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Incredible, It's unbelievable. How many people are in the Catholic
Church too. It's like close to one and a half
billion people that he will now lead. And he's no
longer Prevost. He is Gardner Leo the fourteenth, so young,
two sixty nine. He'll he'll be around for quite some time.
What was the reaction once it settled in there in
(01:45):
Vatican City, And I'm sure you've talked to some friends
back in London. What's been the reaction over there?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I think the reaction is when you take out
the nationality factor, you realize actually he is the choice,
obvious choice for the cardinals at this time. He's seen
as someone who was a kind of a compromise between
the progressive and conservative wings of the Catholic Church, someone
who was very close to Pope Francis, who talked a
lot about poverty. He spent years working with underprivileged communities,
(02:18):
particularly in Peru, and that international aspect of him made him,
I suppose more than an American, but someone who had
Latin American roots, someone who traveled the globe, but also
someone who had experienced inside the Vatican working heading of
a committee recommending bishops and dealing with any issues arising
(02:39):
among bishops. So he had that internal and external experiences.
So a lot of people nodding their heads and saying, yeah,
I can see why he got chosen, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And it came kind of quick, relatively speaking. I think
a lot of people were thinking three or four days,
but hey, twenty four hours. A lot of people moving
in the right direction quickly on this.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes, that was something which was noted. This came in
the fourth ballot, and it was thought that because there
was no obvious real front runner, because there was a
geographically diverse group of cardinals, a larger number of cardinals
than before, it might take time for someone to emerge
in front runner. But clearly Robert Preboss peak up momentum early,
(03:21):
and the cardinals decided that he was the one to
go for. And of course a quick decision suggests a
unified Catholic Church, a unified conclave, and that's good news
in terms of the Catholic Church's public image hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I mean, it's like getting wordle on the second guess
you know, it happened so fast. So let's talk about,
you know the fact that whether or not, I mean
the most important thing is he a White Sox fan
or a Chicago Cubs fan. The Chicago Cubs put up
immediately on Wrigley Field's marquee signed in front of the stadium. Oh,
and he's a Cubs fan too, And quickly his brothers said,
(03:55):
not so fast.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
He was always a Sox fan.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Our mother was a Cubs fan.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I don't know, maybe that in there, and our dad
was a Cardinals fan, So I don't know where that
all came from.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
But he is a white Sox fan there too. I
was talking about this earlier. He's been living in Peru.
He is from Chicago, but he'll ultimately take residence in
Vatican City, correct.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, absolutely, And this is now his home. He has
lived in more Tier for some time anyway. But now
he's not just the head of the Roman Catholic Church.
He's the head of state. He's got jobs that go
beyond the pastoral, go on the ministerial. He now has
to essentially run a country. He's got a point of Cabinet,
he'll have a Secretary of State, He'll be talking to
(04:36):
world leaders. So this is a job which is something
that his previous experience working in the Vatican will have
given him a bedrock in.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I would imagine as he started his duties already
with his first match today, that he's hitting the ground
running and no time wasted.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yes, he had this first Mass this morning inside the
Sistine Chapel, and he talked about his vision for the church,
that it should be something that illuminates the world in
its darkest times. And this follows on from his initial
address to the crowd yesterday evening where he mentioned the
word piece nine times and got rounds of a pause
(05:16):
that most of those occasions, that was something the crowd
really wanted to hear at a time of stripe and war.
The mention of the word peace. I think he wants
to be seen as a bridge builder. He used that
term as well, and someone who will create unity at
times of division.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, world leaders like President Putin and President Trump, you know,
applauding this decision and Donald Trump speaking about it yesterday,
and this being an honor.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
What greater honor would it be.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Has to be.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
We're a little bit surprised and very happy, which is
a great, absolutely great honor.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, he's not the only one that was a little
bit surprised on it, being an American from the United
States here in Chicago. The question I have is how
much time do you think he'll spend here back in
the States now that he is the world's pope.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I would think not that much time at all. I
think that one of the reasons he was chosen was
because he had this, you know, he called prove his
second home. He feels so comfortable in Latin America, so
comfortable traveling the world, and I think he's going to
spend time in countries where there are lots of a
lot of poor people, the countries rich are not rich,
because poverty was a cause that is close to his heart. However,
(06:27):
I think it may come in very handy that he's
an American, although it has to be said, earlier this
year his Twitter, his ex account did criticize the views
of Vice President jd. Vance, So there is the possibility
of maybe some conflict in future.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, we'll have to wait and see. One thing's for sure.
If he does come back to visit his brother. He's
not going to a Cubs game, that's for sure. All right, buddy,
Thank you, I appreciate you. Jonathan Savage Live at Vatican
City
We have a new pope, an American Pope. Jonathan Savage,
our Fox correspondent, is live in Rome. Jonathan, good morning,
Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, good morning. An unbelievable moment of history.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Boy, I'll tell you exciting. Yesterdays we saw the White
Smoke and I think you know, Catholic kids in their
classrooms were watching this with baby breath in schools across
the country. And the excitement that just roared as this
pope was announced, being from Chicago, that's the first time ever.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It is the first North American pope and with the
second Pope from the Americas following on from Pope Francis yesterday.
I was in Saint Peter's Square when they made the announcement,
and the nurses made in Latin, so you're trying to
get your ear in just to pick out the name
amid the Latin if you don't speak Latin, and I
(00:49):
thought I heard Prevost. I thought, God, really we were
talking about him. The American is an outsider but not
really taking his chances very very seriously, because you know,
they they generally don't pick people from superpowers, and people
have said, oh, they'll never appoint in American America too powerful.
But yeah, that was people looked at each other and
(01:12):
then thought who what, and then just the ripple around
American American American just confirmed that it was Robert Prevost,
the first pope to come from the United States.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Incredible, It's unbelievable. How many people are in the Catholic
Church too. It's like close to one and a half
billion people that he will now lead. And he's no
longer Prevost. He is Gardner Leo the fourteenth, so young,
two sixty nine. He'll he'll be around for quite some time.
What was the reaction once it settled in there in
(01:45):
Vatican City, And I'm sure you've talked to some friends
back in London. What's been the reaction over there?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I think the reaction is when you take out
the nationality factor, you realize actually he is the choice,
obvious choice for the cardinals at this time. He's seen
as someone who was a kind of a compromise between
the progressive and conservative wings of the Catholic Church, someone
who was very close to Pope Francis, who talked a
lot about poverty. He spent years working with underprivileged communities,
(02:18):
particularly in Peru, and that international aspect of him made him,
I suppose more than an American, but someone who had
Latin American roots, someone who traveled the globe, but also
someone who had experienced inside the Vatican working heading of
a committee recommending bishops and dealing with any issues arising
(02:39):
among bishops. So he had that internal and external experiences.
So a lot of people nodding their heads and saying, yeah,
I can see why he got chosen, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And it came kind of quick, relatively speaking. I think
a lot of people were thinking three or four days,
but hey, twenty four hours. A lot of people moving
in the right direction quickly on this.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes, that was something which was noted. This came in
the fourth ballot, and it was thought that because there
was no obvious real front runner, because there was a
geographically diverse group of cardinals, a larger number of cardinals
than before, it might take time for someone to emerge
in front runner. But clearly Robert Preboss peak up momentum early,
(03:21):
and the cardinals decided that he was the one to
go for. And of course a quick decision suggests a
unified Catholic Church, a unified conclave, and that's good news
in terms of the Catholic Church's public image hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I mean, it's like getting wordle on the second guess
you know, it happened so fast. So let's talk about,
you know the fact that whether or not, I mean
the most important thing is he a White Sox fan
or a Chicago Cubs fan. The Chicago Cubs put up
immediately on Wrigley Field's marquee signed in front of the stadium. Oh,
and he's a Cubs fan too, And quickly his brothers said,
(03:55):
not so fast.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
He was always a Sox fan.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Our mother was a Cubs fan.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I don't know, maybe that in there, and our dad
was a Cardinals fan, So I don't know where that
all came from.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
But he is a white Sox fan there too. I
was talking about this earlier. He's been living in Peru.
He is from Chicago, but he'll ultimately take residence in
Vatican City, correct.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, absolutely, And this is now his home. He has
lived in more Tier for some time anyway. But now
he's not just the head of the Roman Catholic Church.
He's the head of state. He's got jobs that go
beyond the pastoral, go on the ministerial. He now has
to essentially run a country. He's got a point of Cabinet,
he'll have a Secretary of State, He'll be talking to
(04:36):
world leaders. So this is a job which is something
that his previous experience working in the Vatican will have
given him a bedrock in.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I would imagine as he started his duties already
with his first match today, that he's hitting the ground
running and no time wasted.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yes, he had this first Mass this morning inside the
Sistine Chapel, and he talked about his vision for the church,
that it should be something that illuminates the world in
its darkest times. And this follows on from his initial
address to the crowd yesterday evening where he mentioned the
word piece nine times and got rounds of a pause
(05:16):
that most of those occasions, that was something the crowd
really wanted to hear at a time of stripe and war.
The mention of the word peace. I think he wants
to be seen as a bridge builder. He used that
term as well, and someone who will create unity at
times of division.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, world leaders like President Putin and President Trump, you know,
applauding this decision and Donald Trump speaking about it yesterday,
and this being an honor.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
What greater honor would it be.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Has to be.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
We're a little bit surprised and very happy, which is
a great, absolutely great honor.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, he's not the only one that was a little
bit surprised on it, being an American from the United
States here in Chicago. The question I have is how
much time do you think he'll spend here back in
the States now that he is the world's pope.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I would think not that much time at all. I
think that one of the reasons he was chosen was
because he had this, you know, he called prove his
second home. He feels so comfortable in Latin America, so
comfortable traveling the world, and I think he's going to
spend time in countries where there are lots of a
lot of poor people, the countries rich are not rich,
because poverty was a cause that is close to his heart. However,
(06:27):
I think it may come in very handy that he's
an American, although it has to be said, earlier this
year his Twitter, his ex account did criticize the views
of Vice President jd. Vance, So there is the possibility
of maybe some conflict in future.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, we'll have to wait and see. One thing's for sure.
If he does come back to visit his brother. He's
not going to a Cubs game, that's for sure. All right, buddy,
Thank you, I appreciate you. Jonathan Savage Live at Vatican
City
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