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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our buddy Jonathan Savage, or Fox correspondent, is at Vannikin
(00:03):
City right now with the latest on the conclave. Good morning, Jonathan,
Good morning. So day one brings us the black smoke,
perhaps white smoke today. I guess they're already in conclave, right.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, perhaps, And we've already had black smoke today as
well as the first pops of smoke came at nine
o'clock local time last night. Today, they came just before
noon local time, a little bit earlier, in fact, that
we had anticipated that rush of excitement that swept across
the people who were gathered in the Vatican City when
the smoke started to come out of the sixteen Chapel,
chimney quickly tempered by the fact that it was black smoke,
(00:38):
but I think people were excited to be part of it.
The black smoke means that the cardinals had two voats
this morning and neither produced a conclusive result. They have
left the sixteen Chapel for now. They returned there and
around ninety minutes for two more boats today.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So when they do the black smoke and it starts pouring,
is there any pre warning? Hey, it's smoked, We'll release
some smoke here in sixties seconds, or they just we
do it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We don't get that kind of warning. I mean, last
night the smoke came about ninety minutes to two hours
after we anticipated. The Vatican, they've told us roughly when
the cardinals are going to vote, roughly when we can
expect smoke, and you know, last night was much later
than expected. Nobody knows why, maybe we never will. And
(01:26):
today was a little bit ten minutes earlier than expected.
So we know roughly when to look. And that's those
times are when the Vatican, when Spear Square really started
to fill up last night, thirty forty thousand people during
the evening and waiting for those initial puffs of smoke.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, we see that this has taken quite some time
in history. I think the longest was what three years
to get a pope, but normally at this point, since
the eighteen hundreds, it has not taken longer than four days.
What's the discussion outside Basilica when it comes to where
they're at now? You know, two rounds of black smoke
(02:05):
means they've got to be getting closer, I would think,
because they'd certainly discuss and eliminate some people do they
narrow it down. Okay, we're down to you know, the
top five. Let's go with these five.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, I'm sure that some preferred candidates that have fall
away when they realize they're not really in the running,
tell their supporters to go to lender votes elsewhere. And
we are getting towards that time where in the past
two conclaves we got white smoked and we got a
new pope in the afternoon and evening of day two.
So if history repeats itself, we will have a pope
(02:40):
by the end of the day. However, jump all the
second in nineteen seventy eight, that was day three, a
little bit longer. All everyone is saying, is this such
an unpredictable conclict. More cardinals than before, a wider variety
of geographic of geography among the conclaves than before. One
cardinal it is forty five. All there's so many different
(03:02):
factors that play here.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, And they keep it pretty private as to what
they do in there, and it's not really a lot
of discussion happening. It's kind of quiet. And then they
vote again, do they discuss the leaderboard so to speak?
As to all right, here the top five that got
the most votes. So this is, you know, forget about
everybody else. Let's go ahead and you can only vote
(03:23):
for these.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Not just private JT. It's secret. The smoke is caused
by the burning of the ballot papers, and also the
cardinals have to turn in any notes they've taken for
burning during each session. However, over the piece, you know,
cardinals have memories, they remember who voted for who, and
these things do leak out. Go to the Wikipedia pages
(03:46):
of the last two conflicts. You can see exactly how
many votes each cardinal got in each round of voting.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Excellent, all right, very good, Jonathan Savage. Thank you for
the update. I appreciate you.
Our buddy Jonathan Savage, or Fox correspondent, is at Vannikin
(00:03):
City right now with the latest on the conclave. Good morning, Jonathan,
Good morning. So day one brings us the black smoke,
perhaps white smoke today. I guess they're already in conclave, right.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, perhaps, And we've already had black smoke today as
well as the first pops of smoke came at nine
o'clock local time last night. Today, they came just before
noon local time, a little bit earlier, in fact, that
we had anticipated that rush of excitement that swept across
the people who were gathered in the Vatican City when
the smoke started to come out of the sixteen Chapel,
chimney quickly tempered by the fact that it was black smoke,
(00:38):
but I think people were excited to be part of it.
The black smoke means that the cardinals had two voats
this morning and neither produced a conclusive result. They have
left the sixteen Chapel for now. They returned there and
around ninety minutes for two more boats today.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So when they do the black smoke and it starts pouring,
is there any pre warning? Hey, it's smoked, We'll release
some smoke here in sixties seconds, or they just we
do it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We don't get that kind of warning. I mean, last
night the smoke came about ninety minutes to two hours
after we anticipated. The Vatican, they've told us roughly when
the cardinals are going to vote, roughly when we can
expect smoke, and you know, last night was much later
than expected. Nobody knows why, maybe we never will. And
(01:26):
today was a little bit ten minutes earlier than expected.
So we know roughly when to look. And that's those
times are when the Vatican, when Spear Square really started
to fill up last night, thirty forty thousand people during
the evening and waiting for those initial puffs of smoke.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, we see that this has taken quite some time
in history. I think the longest was what three years
to get a pope, but normally at this point, since
the eighteen hundreds, it has not taken longer than four days.
What's the discussion outside Basilica when it comes to where
they're at now? You know, two rounds of black smoke
(02:05):
means they've got to be getting closer, I would think,
because they'd certainly discuss and eliminate some people do they
narrow it down. Okay, we're down to you know, the
top five. Let's go with these five.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, I'm sure that some preferred candidates that have fall
away when they realize they're not really in the running,
tell their supporters to go to lender votes elsewhere. And
we are getting towards that time where in the past
two conclaves we got white smoked and we got a
new pope in the afternoon and evening of day two.
So if history repeats itself, we will have a pope
(02:40):
by the end of the day. However, jump all the
second in nineteen seventy eight, that was day three, a
little bit longer. All everyone is saying, is this such
an unpredictable conclict. More cardinals than before, a wider variety
of geographic of geography among the conclaves than before. One
cardinal it is forty five. All there's so many different
(03:02):
factors that play here.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, And they keep it pretty private as to what
they do in there, and it's not really a lot
of discussion happening. It's kind of quiet. And then they
vote again, do they discuss the leaderboard so to speak?
As to all right, here the top five that got
the most votes. So this is, you know, forget about
everybody else. Let's go ahead and you can only vote
(03:23):
for these.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Not just private JT. It's secret. The smoke is caused
by the burning of the ballot papers, and also the
cardinals have to turn in any notes they've taken for
burning during each session. However, over the piece, you know,
cardinals have memories, they remember who voted for who, and
these things do leak out. Go to the Wikipedia pages
(03:46):
of the last two conflicts. You can see exactly how
many votes each cardinal got in each round of voting.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Excellent, all right, very good, Jonathan Savage. Thank you for
the update. I appreciate you.
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