August 28, 2025 • 29 mins
Archie Gottesman from JewBelong talks about her campaign to post billboards across the campus of the University of Alabama to fight campus antisemitism. Then Senator Katie Britt Joins JT to talk about her recent legislative priorities.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Being Jewish shouldn't require campus security. As one of two
slogans greeting Alabama students as they return to campuses this fall,
Hello and welcome to Viewpoint Alabama on the Alabama Radio Network.
My name is John Mounts. Jew Belong is a national
nonprofit organization that fights anti Semitism and makes Judaism accessible.
It's putting up three new billboards to raise awareness and
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spark conversations about rising anti semitism on college campuses. Joining
me now is co founder Archie Gotsman. Archie, Welcome to Viewpoint.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Alabama, John, I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
From January twenty twenty three, ye is Right chock graffiti
was discovered in nearly twenty locations across the University of
Alabama's Tuscaloosa campus, referring to anti Semitic statements made by
the rapper Yee. In April of twenty twenty four, controversy
at UAB where Students for Justice and Palestine organizers characterize
the October seventh hamas Let attack as natural and justified.
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Alabama college campuses have seen a sharp rise in anti
semi activity. Archie, why is this growing so quickly in
both Alabama and nationwide.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Because people are using Jewish people and Israel as a
scapegoat for for everything, and it is so dangerous and
really it's bothes terribly for Americans because one thing about
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anti Semitism, for anyone who knows history, is when anti
Semitism starts to grow, it is bad for everybody, not
just Jewish people. So it's important for Americans to really
really get enraged about the growing anti semitism in this country.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And of course the scapegoating is nothing new. Hitler did it,
and before that, it's been done for decades. And why
is it all of a sudden just now? And this
is it because of what happened in Amas. By the way,
was the aggressor back a couple of years ago on
October It was October seventh.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Right, correct, right? Yea, in twenty three, right.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So Hamas was the aggressor. And but then since then
it seems like they've kind of turned it on its
head and tried to make the Israeli government as the
aggressor or paint them that way.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yes, that's exactly what's happened in it. It was an organized,
really evil but huge pr campaign against Israel that has
really taken so many in the mostly progressive Americans to
believe that, I mean to think and say horrible things
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that like Israelis are you know, that it had been
coming to them, and like that women should have been
raped and babies killed and just awful, and the pr
campaign that was launched by the Moos and really just
many many glible Americans have just bought into it. And
that's really what's inciting. Now. I'm not saying that I
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want to be very clear that you belong. My organization
agrees that both Israelis and Palestinians should like have good
lives and happy lives and be able to live in peace.
But what's happening is Hamas doesn't want peace for Palestinians
and it certainly doesn't want peace for Israelis. But there
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is just they have really and I like, there are
just many many global Americans who are believing what Hamas
is saying. And just one more word on it is
that it's israel Is being used as a really like
a shiny diversion, like instead of saying, you know, the
stuff that's being done to Jewish and allies would never
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be accepted for others. It would be like saying, you know, oh,
if I was Russian, you know, people blaming me for
what Whoton is doing that doesn't happen. Yet, for some reason,
Americans are being blamed for a government decision that they
don't even vote in Israel. I mean, it's really it's
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just it's outrageous what is happening to Jewish people in America.
And so that's why it's so important that we raise
awareness with these billboards and conversations like this.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You can say a lot of things about Hamas, but
one thing, they're not stupid, and they know how to
strategically do things in a way that can rile up
international support for their side. Like, for example, they place
important war assets like artillery and weapons and things like
that basically on top of a school, so that when
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Israel launch is an attack and they destroy weapons because
there were weapons there, then they immediately have pictures of
the kids that were being kept right there with the
weapons and say, see look the attack today. It killed
twenty seven innocent women and children here in in Gaza.
And these pictures get circulated around the world and this
helps bolster their argument that the Israelis are the aggressors.
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Why is it that Israel is not able to counter
this narrative with some of the own their own material.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Israel has honestly never been worried about its own PR.
They are They're a very small country. They're the size
of New Jersey. They are. I think many like just
I think, as you said at the beginning when you
just said this, like mus has been planning this PR campaign,
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which really is that's what it is, for years, and
they I don't think that Israel is like, you know,
Israel does things that no other war would ever be happening,
Like they're being criticized that they're not sending in enough
aid to you know, and almass is stealing the aid
and they're being critic size. I mean, Israel warns like
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thns leaflets and texts and they you know, get out
of a building because there's going to be a you know,
because there's going to be an attack, and they're moving people,
and no other you know, this is a war going on,
and no other countries do that. Again just referring back
to what's happening with Russia, like they're not doing that.
But no matter, it almost seems that no matter what
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Israel does to save lives and to you know, to
be humane. It's just it's not the press, frankly, I hate,
you know, is not going to print that like it's
been printed so many times. I've probably seen where you know,
there's a child with birth defects who's been sick for years,
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and it's very sad that the child is sick and
has been sick for years. And so I think there's
just a massive press media wave that is not going
to want to put the truth in that Israel has
done anything. You know, the good that is happening, and
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the just again war is terrible and it's and it's awful,
but Hamas is really not trying to help the Palestinians.
And when there are uprisings of Palestinians who are saying,
you know, to overthrow a Flamas like they're I mean,
it's terrible. They've been killed, they've been jailed, it's it's
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a very it's a bad, bad situation. And I think
until leaders rise up who want peace, it's it's terrible.
Haamos doesn't want peace. They just they they just don't.
What's happening right now is when people play into their hands.
It's exactly what they wanted.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And that's an important distinction you kind of raised there
that Hamas does not necessarily represent the majority of views
of the people who are who are essentially trapped by
Hamas in the Gaza area. And they're doing they're saying
things on their behalf and waging this war on their behalf.
But at the end of the day, that's not they're
not concerned about the people. They're concerned about their own power,
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and they're concerned about carrying this on so that they
might be able to grab more power and more land
from Israel to use for their own purposes, probably to
wage and even wider war in the region.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's not even just the region. So what's happened is
if Hamas is a is a terrorist organization, AMAS leaves
in jiha jihad is a holy war, okay, And this
is their words, This are not my words, and they
are as much as they focus is on Israel a
MOS doesn't like Americans either, unas with some of the
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well many of the protests on you know, campuses and
around our country. Our people are screaming death to America.
And that's why it is so important that Americans realize,
like this might like Today it's about Israel. Tomorrow it's
about America. They don't like the Western way of life.
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It is just it's it's a holy war. It's hard
for Americans to understand. It's like sometimes we're like, well,
let's let me make sense of this, and it's about land,
and it's it's really not. It's about you know, Islamist
radical islam Is wants to take over and that is that.
It's it's very dangerous and people who don't realize that
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are naive and it is it really is. It's an
American problem, and that is why that's why Jubilong is
putting up the billboards that are you know, trying to
raise awareness with people who are not just Jewish. I
mean this is Jus are only two percent of the
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entire country. I mean we are a very very small group.
And yet you know, for all this focus to be
on and for anti Semitism growing so much in America,
it just doesn't make sense. And but today it's about America,
but it's also about I mean, sorry, today's about Israel,
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but tomorrow it's about the Christians and you know, other
other groups too. It's really really that's what she hot
is that's it's that's what nine to eleven was. I mean,
this isn't you know, you just have to read about
and understand that. That's what you know, radical terrorism is
about taking over.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
And that's one of the reasons why you've posted these
billboards because there are people, there are a lot of
people in America who don't realize what it is. That
why they're chanting what they're chanting, because they misunderstand the situation.
They're misreading it. But there's also people who are evil
actors who they're well aware of the situation, but they're
all all perfectly happy to have miss the mist understanding
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and have people in America going right along with it
and saying, yeah, death to us, and they don't realize
that there they missed, they're missing the point, and they
don't understand just how how horrible Hamas is and how
this is not like a simple disagreement between two people
on even footing. One person wants death and destruction to
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the other group and the other group is just trying to,
you know, achieve some sort of peace in the region.
But sometimes that piece comes at a price, and that's
the reason why you put placed these billboards now describe
if you would, because this is radio. What what do
these billboards look like?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
They're pink and white. They're pink background, white writing, and
they are that's they they're you know, right, pink. And
one of them says you don't need to be a
Jew to protect Jews, and the other that one's on
fifteenth and Hackberry Lean, and the other it says being
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Jewish shouldn't require campus security, and that's on the Farland
Boulevard and Hargrove Road. And there's another on Bridge Avenue
to Seventh Street, and and the one that says you
don't need to be a Jew to protect Jews. Like
that's so, you know, that's the message, and it's you know,
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it's a good billboard usually has eleven words or less.
So hobously, we can't do an entire discussion like you
and I are having, but it's just raising awareness so
that people like think about it and then they hear
this discussion and they realize this is not you know,
it isn't a Jewish problem. It's exactly what you were
saying a moment ago. It's it's a it's a larger
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issue that is going to It bodes very poorly for America,
and just one other thing that you when you were
when we're talking about the main of it always amazes
me that, you know, radical Islam is very oppressive to women.
I'm always amazed when I see women, you know, marching
with you know whatever, we're in shorts or something for
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us am And I'm like, do you know that if
you were you know, if you lived in a in
a radical musclem country, you'd have to be completely covered.
Your hair would be covered. You'd be killed if you're
if you showed your hair. And it's just there's such
a lack of understanding of what people seem to be
cheering for, so that when you said yeah, death to me,
like you're you're not wrong. People are really marching against
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their own freedom. Well you've seen those, you don't.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
You've seen the people marching, you know, the trans community,
you know, gay people for Hamas. I'm thinking that has
had is such an oxymoron. They'll be happy to take
it for now, but once they would, if they ever
gain control over you, you'd be one of the first
ones thrown off of a building.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Exactly, You've thrown off a building. And you better start right,
and you better cover all your hair, you know, ladies,
Like it's just it doesn't make any sense. And so
just in the billboard, it's like people really like. We
get a lot of responses from people, but they'll go
to ju below with Instagram or our Facebook, or they
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just email us, and most people really liked them. And
most of our messages that you know, responses come from
people who say, hey, you know, I'm not Jewish, but
I really I saw your billboard and I like, like, go,
I'm so glad to see it, and I'm so glad
you're speaking out and thank you, you know that, like
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so many things, I just got one. You know, I'm
a Christian man and I drove by your billboards and
I really appreciate you, you know, speaking out. Or sometimes people say,
I don't hate Jews. I don't know why there's so
much you know, do hate, but loved your billboard. We
get a lot of you know, just allies, and it's
so important because again, there's just so huw Jews in
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this country in the whole world that like we need,
we need allies who understand to speak out and to like,
you know, hear their voices.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, I hope Archie that America is considered an ally
for the Jewish people overall, even though there's a few,
as it's often called, useful idiots who are in you know,
determined to support Hamas and the killing, not even realizing
what it is they're supporting. And I think it's a
good thing that you purchase these billboards in the Tuscalusa
area because right now we're getting into fall football season.
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There's going to be a lot of people from out
of town, not just students at University of Alabama, but
students from all over the Southeast coming to these games.
Not just students but but you know, tourists coming and
they're going to see your billboards there in tuscaloosas So
that's probably a very smart buy on your part. I
don't know if you've considered buying some in the Birmingham area,
you know, home of UAB, because as you point out,
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it happens here, happens in Huntsville, happens all over the
state and unfortunately all over the nation. So I guess
you're doing what you can. What should people do if
they wish to support the actions or the mission of Jubilong, Well.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Jubilang is a nonprofit organization and if they wanted to
support us, they just to go on their webs and
we have a big donate button and that is how
we take donations, which would be amazing. And we're actually
a really small organization. We only have eight people, and
so sometimes people reach out to us on our email,
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which is on the website and it's jubilong dot org
by the way, it's j e w b E l
o n g dot org. That's our website. And sometimes
people have ideas about where we should be putting other
billboards and it's interesting and sometimes very helpful. So yeah,
people can donate. It's all on the website j e
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w b E l o n g dot org. And
we love to hear from you know, from people, uh,
because that's how you were You're right with the That
is one of the reasons that we bought those billboards
there because it's gonna and they're gonna be there till November,
till the beginning of November, so and that's football season
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and everything. So we're really excited for to get the
word out and for people to see them and just
and to be aware because most Americans, you know, John,
most Americans don't hate, like they don't get up in
the morning and being like, I hate tooish people are
I hate anybody. They just don't have hate in their hearts.
But unfortunately they may not realize how how bad the
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anti Semitism is. And as you said, it's Alabama, you
know there was a one hundred and thirty nine percent
increase in anti Semitic incidents, and that's a lot. Like
that's a lot of hate, and there doesn't need to
be that, so we always want people to be aware
of it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Archie, I'm a firm believer that people are inherently reasonable,
and sometimes when you get a crowd, they're unreasonable as
a whole. But when you talk about like you get
one person and you have a one on one conversation
about things, usually you can find middle ground and you
can find reason. And when you have a reasonable conversation,
it seems like the reasonable thing would be to support life,
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support not killing, and support the sovereignty of Israeli only
state in the Middle East that is basically an ally
of the United States. That's a one and only ally
over there, really and truly, and we as a country,
we need to support the people over there, and we
need to be willing to do what it takes to
help them defend their borders, defend their people, and to
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quash the efforts of groups like Hamas who, like you said,
you know, it's not just a music festival, it's not
just from the river to the sea. Eventually, it's the
whole world that they.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Hope to conquer, exactly, and people don't realize that that
this is. It's literally, you know, there's a saying that
first the Saturday people.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
That's exactly what I was going to say. It's first
just a Saturday people. That's the Jewish people. Then it's
a Sunday people, that's the Christian people. Then it's every
day of the week that's everybody, and that's the goal.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Literally in the the Islamic you know, statements like it's
not about and it's just important don't understand. And I
don't know if I'm sure you've probably seen that some
of the views that you hear from like London or France,
where there's just you know, a lot more sort of already,
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you know, people who don't feel safe, you know, whether
it's the Jewish community feeling unsafe or people who just
feel like Wow, I there's a you know again, not
all muscles. This is not an anti muscle, but this
is the radical when people are radical and say you
have to believe what I believe and you need to
you know, dress the way I want you to address.
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That's what we are talking about is not okay. It's
not okay for anybody to tell anyone else how to
live their lives.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Absolutely, and to find out more about Archie Yachtsman and
do you belong the website? Is you belong dot org?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yes, it is great.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Thank you so much for coming on with us. Thank
you for raising awareness of this discussion. I hope that
you're able to put more of these billboards up in
other places and we're able to continue the discussion because
as as long as we're talking, we're actually going to
maybe persuade some hearts and minds and deal with this
war with words, not with weapons. Thank you so much
Archie for coming on the show today.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You're welcome. John, thanks you too. I really appreciate it.
It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Up next our own JT had a chance to check
in with Senator Katie Britt last Wednesday. Let's hear some
of that conversation.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Joining us now is Senator Katie Britt on a number
of issues. Not that there's anything to talk about in
DC these days, but Katie, welcome back in Thanks for
being here.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, I am hey, I am so glad to be here.
It has been an eventful morning already, got Ridgeway dropped
off at football at seven am. I have gone to
the grocery store back home and getting the day started.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
So always good to be on with you.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Nice to be home too, sometimes after all the busyness
that you're doing in DC for us here in Alabama,
and it has been crazy hectic in Alabama. So I
wanted to start with what you're doing as far as
you know the crime stoppers. You know, you've received this
award Crime Stopper of the Year. Congratulationsations by the way,
But you know, we all know back here at home,
you know you've always been you know pro law and
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order and law, you know law enforcement, and you know
doing the right thing when it comes to this. And
we watch and see what the President's done with the
National Guard in DC and he's looking at other cities
to kind of help clean up the crime there. And
I just saw a new stat out thirty five percent
of Americans kind of welcome that. If my city's a mess,
yeah we'll take the help, thank you very much. But
oh my gosh, Katie, the blowback from the Democrats on
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this thing.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Your thoughts, well, it's absolutely ridiculous. It shows that you know,
they're there once again, you know, the party of You know,
they seem to be they lack common sense and seem
to be somehow embracing crime. I mean, think about that, JT.
And just to rewind to your earlier point, it is
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wonderful to be home, you know, to get to be
in Alabama. We have been working NonStop. That's exactly what
we should be doing. We've actually taken over five hundred
votes in the US Senate twice the number of votes
that have been taken in the House to date. The
record ever and a whole year in the Senate is
five hundred and thirty eight and we will surpass that
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when we get back next week or the week following.
So we're working non stuff because we know how important
this is. We have done things like the Lake and
Riley Act and like Halt Sentinel to make sure that
our law enforcement officers have the tools they need I
was so proud to lead that effort in the Senate.
Getting Crime Stopper of the Year in Alabama was a
huge honor. And to be able to stand in front
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of so many of our courageous law enforcement officers that
lead the safety of their home every single day so
that we can return to ours was truly humbling. And
so to be a resource for them, to be a
partner to them, to make sure that they have what
they need, both from support and tools, resources, etc. It
is absolutely something that our prioritize every day and it
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is an honor to do it. We're going to keep
doing that because keeping communities safe is not only common sense,
but allows people to flourish. And that's what President Trump
ran on. He said, we're going to secure our border,
We're going to make our streets safe, We're going to
make America more prosperous. And he's making good on that
at every single turn. That's exactly what he's doing in Washington,
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d C. I mean, you think about the crime rate
in DC and President Trump is lated in front of
the American people. He has put it in front and said,
look look at the look at the capital of Columbia,
look at the capital of.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
This this this He's gone down.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
One by one and shown how disproportionate the crime is
there in Washington, d C. It's simply unacceptable. And the
greatest country in the world. We should people should be
able to come, school groups should be able to come.
Famili should be able to come and listen. Young people
should be able to come and work for their state,
work for their country without fear of having to walk
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home to their apartment or their hotel at night safely.
And I, for one, this is personal. You know that
I had a staffer that was actually held at gunpoint,
you know, just and just over a year ago, and
so you know, we've got to clean this up. President
Trump is doing what no one else has done before.
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Over one thousand arrests, over one hundred illegal firearms seized,
and so he's doing what should have been done a
long time ago. And I have a feeling it's going
to be a model for doing it across the country
unless these mayors and governors step up and do it themselves.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, I really don't get the pushback from these mayors
and governors, you know, and I know it's not a
good look. If the president comes in and says, look,
you're not doing a good enough job here, so we're
going to help you out. Yeah, that'll smack you.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I mean, they're not doing a good enough job, but
that beginning and end of story, they're not. They continue
to allow crime to run rampant. They prioritize the criminal
and not the victim, and they're not doing what it
needs to They're soft on crime, and therefore, you know,
their streets are unsafe, and it's got to stop. Because
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if you want communities to flourish, if you want people
to come in and build a small business or raise
their family there, they want to know that those the
people are safe and that there is a pathway to
the American dream for their children. And safety is paramount
in that. If we can't keep people safe, you know,
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there are so many other things that follow. So I
think it's imperative and I think we've got to clean
up our streets and we've got to do it.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Now, and with the safety in mind here. That's kind
of the mandate. The American people voted Donald Trump. And
when it comes to our border as well, and you know,
the folks at Ice are under attack like crazy, right now.
And yesterday the DNC had their big meeting, and you know,
one of the members there says that the ice crisis
is worse than the pandemic in our country. Right now,
listen to this, and I want to get your thoughts
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on the how tone deaf the Democrats seem to be
on this.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
We've had a tremendous amount of raids. I you know,
we're dealing with different circumstances here, but I've said this
a lot, but Latinos in California are dealing with this
ice crisis. I think we're living worse times than the
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times of the pandemic ice crisis.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I think we're in a boom of protection and the
President doing great work with ice, and recruiting is up
and safety is up, and the numbers of illegals are down.
I mean, I don't get the Democratic position on this.
And they had some strife in their own room yesterday
amongst each other. They're just not aware of what the
American people want or they don't care.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Once again, they are allowing the far less to run
their agenda and to run their party, and this is
why they lost on November fifth. They are sitting here
saying no, we need wide open borders and there's no
way to stop the flow. They want to even send
taxpayer dollars, hard earned American taxpayer dollars to the people
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who came here illegally. I mean they consistently they don't
want to actually crack down and say we will not
have crime on our street and we will do to
keep people safe. I mean, common sense has gone out
the window. And look, this was the most litigated issue
of the last four years, and the American people said,
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if you don't have borders, you don't have a country.
And we are ready for some safety, some security, and
some stability. And so I mean you think about all
of the things. I mean, they stood up literally and
voted against us.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
No tax on tips, no tax on.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Overtime, the things that we were doing to hert to
help hard working families. I mean, here for the very
first time ever since so since nineteen eighty six, since
Reagan was in office, I led the effort to change
the tax code so that childcare could be more affordable
and hard working parents could keep more of their money.
They voted against it. So consistently they seem to be
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out of touch with the American people. The American people
do not want to have to go through another Lincoln
Riley or Rachel Moren or Joscelyn Nungary. And these Democrats, remember,
have yet to apologize to those parents or to go
sit with those parents and families. But yet they go
and these MS thirteen gang members, they seem to be,
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you know, carrying the mantle four. That's that's not that's
not what the American people want, and unfortunately they're out
of touch yet.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Again, one hundred percent. Well, Katie, I really appreciate this morning,
Thank you so much. Quickly, what's on your agenda for
the next week or two. What's front and center for you?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Breton center, We've got I'll be traveling the state. Will
also be going to volleyball games and football games, watching
my children, and then we get back to work.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I have been working with my colleagues, truly on both
sides of the aisle, trying to figure out a pathway
forward to this backlog. Democrats are actually using obstruction tactics
that have never been used to this degree before. President
Trump did not have one nominee, not one that had
an opportunity to move through, you know, with by voice vote,
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which is unprecedented. You look back on Obama, look back
on Bush. You're talking about upwards of ninety ninety two
percent of their nominees went through.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
By voice vote.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
So we're working on how do we make the Senate
actually function again for the American people. So I'm meeting
with my colleagues, tons of calls. I'm trying to figure
out that pathway, pathway, and get this backlog on jammed
for President Trump and for the country, not just now
but in the future.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Well, Katie, I appreciate all the work you're doing it.
And it's a hot minute since we've chatted, so we'll
stay in touch and do it again.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
So you've been listening to Viewpoint Alabama, a public affairs
program from the Alabama Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
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Being Jewish shouldn't require campus security. As one of two
slogans greeting Alabama students as they return to campuses this fall,
Hello and welcome to Viewpoint Alabama on the Alabama Radio Network.
My name is John Mounts. Jew Belong is a national
nonprofit organization that fights anti Semitism and makes Judaism accessible.
It's putting up three new billboards to raise awareness and
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spark conversations about rising anti semitism on college campuses. Joining
me now is co founder Archie Gotsman. Archie, Welcome to Viewpoint.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Alabama, John, I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
From January twenty twenty three, ye is Right chock graffiti
was discovered in nearly twenty locations across the University of
Alabama's Tuscaloosa campus, referring to anti Semitic statements made by
the rapper Yee. In April of twenty twenty four, controversy
at UAB where Students for Justice and Palestine organizers characterize
the October seventh hamas Let attack as natural and justified.
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Alabama college campuses have seen a sharp rise in anti
semi activity. Archie, why is this growing so quickly in
both Alabama and nationwide.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Because people are using Jewish people and Israel as a
scapegoat for for everything, and it is so dangerous and
really it's bothes terribly for Americans because one thing about
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anti Semitism, for anyone who knows history, is when anti
Semitism starts to grow, it is bad for everybody, not
just Jewish people. So it's important for Americans to really
really get enraged about the growing anti semitism in this country.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And of course the scapegoating is nothing new. Hitler did it,
and before that, it's been done for decades. And why
is it all of a sudden just now? And this
is it because of what happened in Amas. By the way,
was the aggressor back a couple of years ago on
October It was October seventh.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Right, correct, right? Yea, in twenty three, right.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So Hamas was the aggressor. And but then since then
it seems like they've kind of turned it on its
head and tried to make the Israeli government as the
aggressor or paint them that way.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yes, that's exactly what's happened in it. It was an organized,
really evil but huge pr campaign against Israel that has
really taken so many in the mostly progressive Americans to
believe that, I mean to think and say horrible things
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that like Israelis are you know, that it had been
coming to them, and like that women should have been
raped and babies killed and just awful, and the pr
campaign that was launched by the Moos and really just
many many glible Americans have just bought into it. And
that's really what's inciting. Now. I'm not saying that I
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want to be very clear that you belong. My organization
agrees that both Israelis and Palestinians should like have good
lives and happy lives and be able to live in peace.
But what's happening is Hamas doesn't want peace for Palestinians
and it certainly doesn't want peace for Israelis. But there
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is just they have really and I like, there are
just many many global Americans who are believing what Hamas
is saying. And just one more word on it is
that it's israel Is being used as a really like
a shiny diversion, like instead of saying, you know, the
stuff that's being done to Jewish and allies would never
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be accepted for others. It would be like saying, you know, oh,
if I was Russian, you know, people blaming me for
what Whoton is doing that doesn't happen. Yet, for some reason,
Americans are being blamed for a government decision that they
don't even vote in Israel. I mean, it's really it's
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just it's outrageous what is happening to Jewish people in America.
And so that's why it's so important that we raise
awareness with these billboards and conversations like this.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You can say a lot of things about Hamas, but
one thing, they're not stupid, and they know how to
strategically do things in a way that can rile up
international support for their side. Like, for example, they place
important war assets like artillery and weapons and things like
that basically on top of a school, so that when
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Israel launch is an attack and they destroy weapons because
there were weapons there, then they immediately have pictures of
the kids that were being kept right there with the
weapons and say, see look the attack today. It killed
twenty seven innocent women and children here in in Gaza.
And these pictures get circulated around the world and this
helps bolster their argument that the Israelis are the aggressors.
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Why is it that Israel is not able to counter
this narrative with some of the own their own material.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Israel has honestly never been worried about its own PR.
They are They're a very small country. They're the size
of New Jersey. They are. I think many like just
I think, as you said at the beginning when you
just said this, like mus has been planning this PR campaign,
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which really is that's what it is, for years, and
they I don't think that Israel is like, you know,
Israel does things that no other war would ever be happening,
Like they're being criticized that they're not sending in enough
aid to you know, and almass is stealing the aid
and they're being critic size. I mean, Israel warns like
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thns leaflets and texts and they you know, get out
of a building because there's going to be a you know,
because there's going to be an attack, and they're moving people,
and no other you know, this is a war going on,
and no other countries do that. Again just referring back
to what's happening with Russia, like they're not doing that.
But no matter, it almost seems that no matter what
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Israel does to save lives and to you know, to
be humane. It's just it's not the press, frankly, I hate,
you know, is not going to print that like it's
been printed so many times. I've probably seen where you know,
there's a child with birth defects who's been sick for years,
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and it's very sad that the child is sick and
has been sick for years. And so I think there's
just a massive press media wave that is not going
to want to put the truth in that Israel has
done anything. You know, the good that is happening, and
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the just again war is terrible and it's and it's awful,
but Hamas is really not trying to help the Palestinians.
And when there are uprisings of Palestinians who are saying,
you know, to overthrow a Flamas like they're I mean,
it's terrible. They've been killed, they've been jailed, it's it's
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a very it's a bad, bad situation. And I think
until leaders rise up who want peace, it's it's terrible.
Haamos doesn't want peace. They just they they just don't.
What's happening right now is when people play into their hands.
It's exactly what they wanted.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And that's an important distinction you kind of raised there
that Hamas does not necessarily represent the majority of views
of the people who are who are essentially trapped by
Hamas in the Gaza area. And they're doing they're saying
things on their behalf and waging this war on their behalf.
But at the end of the day, that's not they're
not concerned about the people. They're concerned about their own power,
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and they're concerned about carrying this on so that they
might be able to grab more power and more land
from Israel to use for their own purposes, probably to
wage and even wider war in the region.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's not even just the region. So what's happened is
if Hamas is a is a terrorist organization, AMAS leaves
in jiha jihad is a holy war, okay, And this
is their words, This are not my words, and they
are as much as they focus is on Israel a
MOS doesn't like Americans either, unas with some of the
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well many of the protests on you know, campuses and
around our country. Our people are screaming death to America.
And that's why it is so important that Americans realize,
like this might like Today it's about Israel. Tomorrow it's
about America. They don't like the Western way of life.
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It is just it's it's a holy war. It's hard
for Americans to understand. It's like sometimes we're like, well,
let's let me make sense of this, and it's about land,
and it's it's really not. It's about you know, Islamist
radical islam Is wants to take over and that is that.
It's it's very dangerous and people who don't realize that
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are naive and it is it really is. It's an
American problem, and that is why that's why Jubilong is
putting up the billboards that are you know, trying to
raise awareness with people who are not just Jewish. I
mean this is Jus are only two percent of the
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entire country. I mean we are a very very small group.
And yet you know, for all this focus to be
on and for anti Semitism growing so much in America,
it just doesn't make sense. And but today it's about America,
but it's also about I mean, sorry, today's about Israel,
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but tomorrow it's about the Christians and you know, other
other groups too. It's really really that's what she hot
is that's it's that's what nine to eleven was. I mean,
this isn't you know, you just have to read about
and understand that. That's what you know, radical terrorism is
about taking over.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
And that's one of the reasons why you've posted these
billboards because there are people, there are a lot of
people in America who don't realize what it is. That
why they're chanting what they're chanting, because they misunderstand the situation.
They're misreading it. But there's also people who are evil
actors who they're well aware of the situation, but they're
all all perfectly happy to have miss the mist understanding
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and have people in America going right along with it
and saying, yeah, death to us, and they don't realize
that there they missed, they're missing the point, and they
don't understand just how how horrible Hamas is and how
this is not like a simple disagreement between two people
on even footing. One person wants death and destruction to
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the other group and the other group is just trying to,
you know, achieve some sort of peace in the region.
But sometimes that piece comes at a price, and that's
the reason why you put placed these billboards now describe
if you would, because this is radio. What what do
these billboards look like?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
They're pink and white. They're pink background, white writing, and
they are that's they they're you know, right, pink. And
one of them says you don't need to be a
Jew to protect Jews, and the other that one's on
fifteenth and Hackberry Lean, and the other it says being
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Jewish shouldn't require campus security, and that's on the Farland
Boulevard and Hargrove Road. And there's another on Bridge Avenue
to Seventh Street, and and the one that says you
don't need to be a Jew to protect Jews. Like
that's so, you know, that's the message, and it's you know,
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it's a good billboard usually has eleven words or less.
So hobously, we can't do an entire discussion like you
and I are having, but it's just raising awareness so
that people like think about it and then they hear
this discussion and they realize this is not you know,
it isn't a Jewish problem. It's exactly what you were
saying a moment ago. It's it's a it's a larger
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issue that is going to It bodes very poorly for America,
and just one other thing that you when you were
when we're talking about the main of it always amazes
me that, you know, radical Islam is very oppressive to women.
I'm always amazed when I see women, you know, marching
with you know whatever, we're in shorts or something for
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us am And I'm like, do you know that if
you were you know, if you lived in a in
a radical musclem country, you'd have to be completely covered.
Your hair would be covered. You'd be killed if you're
if you showed your hair. And it's just there's such
a lack of understanding of what people seem to be
cheering for, so that when you said yeah, death to me,
like you're you're not wrong. People are really marching against
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their own freedom. Well you've seen those, you don't.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
You've seen the people marching, you know, the trans community,
you know, gay people for Hamas. I'm thinking that has
had is such an oxymoron. They'll be happy to take
it for now, but once they would, if they ever
gain control over you, you'd be one of the first
ones thrown off of a building.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Exactly, You've thrown off a building. And you better start right,
and you better cover all your hair, you know, ladies,
Like it's just it doesn't make any sense. And so
just in the billboard, it's like people really like. We
get a lot of responses from people, but they'll go
to ju below with Instagram or our Facebook, or they
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just email us, and most people really liked them. And
most of our messages that you know, responses come from
people who say, hey, you know, I'm not Jewish, but
I really I saw your billboard and I like, like, go,
I'm so glad to see it, and I'm so glad
you're speaking out and thank you, you know that, like
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so many things, I just got one. You know, I'm
a Christian man and I drove by your billboards and
I really appreciate you, you know, speaking out. Or sometimes people say,
I don't hate Jews. I don't know why there's so
much you know, do hate, but loved your billboard. We
get a lot of you know, just allies, and it's
so important because again, there's just so huw Jews in
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this country in the whole world that like we need,
we need allies who understand to speak out and to like,
you know, hear their voices.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, I hope Archie that America is considered an ally
for the Jewish people overall, even though there's a few,
as it's often called, useful idiots who are in you know,
determined to support Hamas and the killing, not even realizing
what it is they're supporting. And I think it's a
good thing that you purchase these billboards in the Tuscalusa
area because right now we're getting into fall football season.
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There's going to be a lot of people from out
of town, not just students at University of Alabama, but
students from all over the Southeast coming to these games.
Not just students but but you know, tourists coming and
they're going to see your billboards there in tuscaloosas So
that's probably a very smart buy on your part. I
don't know if you've considered buying some in the Birmingham area,
you know, home of UAB, because as you point out,
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it happens here, happens in Huntsville, happens all over the
state and unfortunately all over the nation. So I guess
you're doing what you can. What should people do if
they wish to support the actions or the mission of Jubilong, Well.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Jubilang is a nonprofit organization and if they wanted to
support us, they just to go on their webs and
we have a big donate button and that is how
we take donations, which would be amazing. And we're actually
a really small organization. We only have eight people, and
so sometimes people reach out to us on our email,
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which is on the website and it's jubilong dot org
by the way, it's j e w b E l
o n g dot org. That's our website. And sometimes
people have ideas about where we should be putting other
billboards and it's interesting and sometimes very helpful. So yeah,
people can donate. It's all on the website j e
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w b E l o n g dot org. And
we love to hear from you know, from people, uh,
because that's how you were You're right with the That
is one of the reasons that we bought those billboards
there because it's gonna and they're gonna be there till November,
till the beginning of November, so and that's football season
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and everything. So we're really excited for to get the
word out and for people to see them and just
and to be aware because most Americans, you know, John,
most Americans don't hate, like they don't get up in
the morning and being like, I hate tooish people are
I hate anybody. They just don't have hate in their hearts.
But unfortunately they may not realize how how bad the
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anti Semitism is. And as you said, it's Alabama, you
know there was a one hundred and thirty nine percent
increase in anti Semitic incidents, and that's a lot. Like
that's a lot of hate, and there doesn't need to
be that, so we always want people to be aware
of it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Archie, I'm a firm believer that people are inherently reasonable,
and sometimes when you get a crowd, they're unreasonable as
a whole. But when you talk about like you get
one person and you have a one on one conversation
about things, usually you can find middle ground and you
can find reason. And when you have a reasonable conversation,
it seems like the reasonable thing would be to support life,
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support not killing, and support the sovereignty of Israeli only
state in the Middle East that is basically an ally
of the United States. That's a one and only ally
over there, really and truly, and we as a country,
we need to support the people over there, and we
need to be willing to do what it takes to
help them defend their borders, defend their people, and to
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quash the efforts of groups like Hamas who, like you said,
you know, it's not just a music festival, it's not
just from the river to the sea. Eventually, it's the
whole world that they.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Hope to conquer, exactly, and people don't realize that that
this is. It's literally, you know, there's a saying that
first the Saturday people.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
That's exactly what I was going to say. It's first
just a Saturday people. That's the Jewish people. Then it's
a Sunday people, that's the Christian people. Then it's every
day of the week that's everybody, and that's the goal.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Literally in the the Islamic you know, statements like it's
not about and it's just important don't understand. And I
don't know if I'm sure you've probably seen that some
of the views that you hear from like London or France,
where there's just you know, a lot more sort of already,
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you know, people who don't feel safe, you know, whether
it's the Jewish community feeling unsafe or people who just
feel like Wow, I there's a you know again, not
all muscles. This is not an anti muscle, but this
is the radical when people are radical and say you
have to believe what I believe and you need to
you know, dress the way I want you to address.
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That's what we are talking about is not okay. It's
not okay for anybody to tell anyone else how to
live their lives.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Absolutely, and to find out more about Archie Yachtsman and
do you belong the website? Is you belong dot org?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yes, it is great.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Thank you so much for coming on with us. Thank
you for raising awareness of this discussion. I hope that
you're able to put more of these billboards up in
other places and we're able to continue the discussion because
as as long as we're talking, we're actually going to
maybe persuade some hearts and minds and deal with this
war with words, not with weapons. Thank you so much
Archie for coming on the show today.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You're welcome. John, thanks you too. I really appreciate it.
It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Up next our own JT had a chance to check
in with Senator Katie Britt last Wednesday. Let's hear some
of that conversation.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Joining us now is Senator Katie Britt on a number
of issues. Not that there's anything to talk about in
DC these days, but Katie, welcome back in Thanks for
being here.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, I am hey, I am so glad to be here.
It has been an eventful morning already, got Ridgeway dropped
off at football at seven am. I have gone to
the grocery store back home and getting the day started.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
So always good to be on with you.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Nice to be home too, sometimes after all the busyness
that you're doing in DC for us here in Alabama,
and it has been crazy hectic in Alabama. So I
wanted to start with what you're doing as far as
you know the crime stoppers. You know, you've received this
award Crime Stopper of the Year. Congratulationsations by the way,
But you know, we all know back here at home,
you know you've always been you know pro law and
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order and law, you know law enforcement, and you know
doing the right thing when it comes to this. And
we watch and see what the President's done with the
National Guard in DC and he's looking at other cities
to kind of help clean up the crime there. And
I just saw a new stat out thirty five percent
of Americans kind of welcome that. If my city's a mess,
yeah we'll take the help, thank you very much. But
oh my gosh, Katie, the blowback from the Democrats on
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this thing.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Your thoughts, well, it's absolutely ridiculous. It shows that you know,
they're there once again, you know, the party of You know,
they seem to be they lack common sense and seem
to be somehow embracing crime. I mean, think about that, JT.
And just to rewind to your earlier point, it is
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wonderful to be home, you know, to get to be
in Alabama. We have been working NonStop. That's exactly what
we should be doing. We've actually taken over five hundred
votes in the US Senate twice the number of votes
that have been taken in the House to date. The
record ever and a whole year in the Senate is
five hundred and thirty eight and we will surpass that
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when we get back next week or the week following.
So we're working non stuff because we know how important
this is. We have done things like the Lake and
Riley Act and like Halt Sentinel to make sure that
our law enforcement officers have the tools they need I
was so proud to lead that effort in the Senate.
Getting Crime Stopper of the Year in Alabama was a
huge honor. And to be able to stand in front
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of so many of our courageous law enforcement officers that
lead the safety of their home every single day so
that we can return to ours was truly humbling. And
so to be a resource for them, to be a
partner to them, to make sure that they have what
they need, both from support and tools, resources, etc. It
is absolutely something that our prioritize every day and it
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is an honor to do it. We're going to keep
doing that because keeping communities safe is not only common sense,
but allows people to flourish. And that's what President Trump
ran on. He said, we're going to secure our border,
We're going to make our streets safe, We're going to
make America more prosperous. And he's making good on that
at every single turn. That's exactly what he's doing in Washington,
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d C. I mean, you think about the crime rate
in DC and President Trump is lated in front of
the American people. He has put it in front and said,
look look at the look at the capital of Columbia,
look at the capital of.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
This this this He's gone down.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
One by one and shown how disproportionate the crime is
there in Washington, d C. It's simply unacceptable. And the
greatest country in the world. We should people should be
able to come, school groups should be able to come.
Famili should be able to come and listen. Young people
should be able to come and work for their state,
work for their country without fear of having to walk
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home to their apartment or their hotel at night safely.
And I, for one, this is personal. You know that
I had a staffer that was actually held at gunpoint,
you know, just and just over a year ago, and
so you know, we've got to clean this up. President
Trump is doing what no one else has done before.
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Over one thousand arrests, over one hundred illegal firearms seized,
and so he's doing what should have been done a
long time ago. And I have a feeling it's going
to be a model for doing it across the country
unless these mayors and governors step up and do it themselves.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, I really don't get the pushback from these mayors
and governors, you know, and I know it's not a
good look. If the president comes in and says, look,
you're not doing a good enough job here, so we're
going to help you out. Yeah, that'll smack you.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I mean, they're not doing a good enough job, but
that beginning and end of story, they're not. They continue
to allow crime to run rampant. They prioritize the criminal
and not the victim, and they're not doing what it
needs to They're soft on crime, and therefore, you know,
their streets are unsafe, and it's got to stop. Because
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if you want communities to flourish, if you want people
to come in and build a small business or raise
their family there, they want to know that those the
people are safe and that there is a pathway to
the American dream for their children. And safety is paramount
in that. If we can't keep people safe, you know,
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there are so many other things that follow. So I
think it's imperative and I think we've got to clean
up our streets and we've got to do it.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Now, and with the safety in mind here. That's kind
of the mandate. The American people voted Donald Trump. And
when it comes to our border as well, and you know,
the folks at Ice are under attack like crazy, right now.
And yesterday the DNC had their big meeting, and you know,
one of the members there says that the ice crisis
is worse than the pandemic in our country. Right now,
listen to this, and I want to get your thoughts
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on the how tone deaf the Democrats seem to be
on this.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
We've had a tremendous amount of raids. I you know,
we're dealing with different circumstances here, but I've said this
a lot, but Latinos in California are dealing with this
ice crisis. I think we're living worse times than the
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times of the pandemic ice crisis.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I think we're in a boom of protection and the
President doing great work with ice, and recruiting is up
and safety is up, and the numbers of illegals are down.
I mean, I don't get the Democratic position on this.
And they had some strife in their own room yesterday
amongst each other. They're just not aware of what the
American people want or they don't care.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Once again, they are allowing the far less to run
their agenda and to run their party, and this is
why they lost on November fifth. They are sitting here
saying no, we need wide open borders and there's no
way to stop the flow. They want to even send
taxpayer dollars, hard earned American taxpayer dollars to the people
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who came here illegally. I mean they consistently they don't
want to actually crack down and say we will not
have crime on our street and we will do to
keep people safe. I mean, common sense has gone out
the window. And look, this was the most litigated issue
of the last four years, and the American people said,
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if you don't have borders, you don't have a country.
And we are ready for some safety, some security, and
some stability. And so I mean you think about all
of the things. I mean, they stood up literally and
voted against us.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
No tax on tips, no tax on.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Overtime, the things that we were doing to hert to
help hard working families. I mean, here for the very
first time ever since so since nineteen eighty six, since
Reagan was in office, I led the effort to change
the tax code so that childcare could be more affordable
and hard working parents could keep more of their money.
They voted against it. So consistently they seem to be
(27:50):
out of touch with the American people. The American people
do not want to have to go through another Lincoln
Riley or Rachel Moren or Joscelyn Nungary. And these Democrats, remember,
have yet to apologize to those parents or to go
sit with those parents and families. But yet they go
and these MS thirteen gang members, they seem to be,
(28:14):
you know, carrying the mantle four. That's that's not that's
not what the American people want, and unfortunately they're out
of touch yet.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Again, one hundred percent. Well, Katie, I really appreciate this morning,
Thank you so much. Quickly, what's on your agenda for
the next week or two. What's front and center for you?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Breton center, We've got I'll be traveling the state. Will
also be going to volleyball games and football games, watching
my children, and then we get back to work.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I have been working with my colleagues, truly on both
sides of the aisle, trying to figure out a pathway
forward to this backlog. Democrats are actually using obstruction tactics
that have never been used to this degree before. President
Trump did not have one nominee, not one that had
an opportunity to move through, you know, with by voice vote,
(29:03):
which is unprecedented. You look back on Obama, look back
on Bush. You're talking about upwards of ninety ninety two
percent of their nominees went through.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
By voice vote.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
So we're working on how do we make the Senate
actually function again for the American people. So I'm meeting
with my colleagues, tons of calls. I'm trying to figure
out that pathway, pathway, and get this backlog on jammed
for President Trump and for the country, not just now
but in the future.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Well, Katie, I appreciate all the work you're doing it.
And it's a hot minute since we've chatted, so we'll
stay in touch and do it again.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
So you've been listening to Viewpoint Alabama, a public affairs
program from the Alabama Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
The opinions expressed on Viewpoint Alabama are not necessarily those
of the staff, management, or advertisers of this station.
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