September 28, 2025 • 38 mins
Peter Holland joins the podcast this week to assess the England’s Ashes squad and we reject the India and Pakistan sides for using politics to disrespect the game at the Asia Cup.
Plus, there's tributes to Bruce Morrison and Dickie Bird.
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Hello again, We're back on the front foot this week.
Challenges and controversy and sadly fairwells mark the current cricket
world news, the controversy and abrasive tea twenty between India
and Pakistan. Should we expect anything else? Well, yes we should.
The farewells to cricket identities pass on and England named
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their ashes squad the Black Caps and the White French. Prepare
for demanding challenges coming up ahead. Wow, you've had a
weekend of sport through the last few days. Jeremy Coney
to the All Blacks women's team. The netballer squeaked home
by one that sport of all sports, golf, the Ryder Cup. Boy,
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didn't they provide some close finishes for us.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I'm exhausted, once exhausted from those things. I need to
go and have a good light down. Sorry I was
late starting.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
No, never mind, we always make up for it in
the end.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Most you would have watched all that stuff when you're
or have you been busy doing other things?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
No, no, no, I very much took a considerable interest
and delight at Europe winning the Ryder Cup. Not sure
I'm that keen on on how the crowd seem to
be responding, and it's a bit unfortunate. We don't mind
a better hackling and enthusiasm, but it's it's went a
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bit far.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I think, yeah, it does, and that's the contest. And
I suppose that's a public opinion or the way the public.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
React these days.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But certainly it's a better sporting spectacle on what has
been seen in the Asia Cup cricket, and I'm afraid
India and Pakistan doing disservice to the game of cricket. Yes,
Harris Rolf across the line with his political gesture, but
he wasn't the only one. There were quite a few
of them across the line.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
In that series.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But I think the worst feature from my point of view,
whatever you believe about the political aspects, is neither side
shook hands at the end twice, and to me, that
is the tradition of the game. That is part of
the sportsmanship of the game. And whatever you do in cricket,
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you've got to respect your opponents and you've got to
respect the traditions of the game. You disrespect that and
that comes at a cost. I don't know how you feel, Jerry,
but to me it was totally disrespectful. You know, you
might not like your opposition, but you always respect them.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yeah, I can't disagree with that. Only takes about one
and a half seconds, doesn't it. But it says a
lot and as soon as it's not done, you notice it. Look,
they used to say sport built bridges, didn't they. It
doesn't seem to be the case in some instances anymore.
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I would have thought, if you want to make openly
political stances, which is what you're talking about, I think
you make yourself unavailable.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
I really do.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I think if you want to use that as a
platform to do that, then I'm afraid doesn't have a place,
and so do the good thing, and that's that's not
I can't play against these guys.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
In terms of how it should be. I completely agree
with you. However, what we have here is an intractable situation.
Let's be quite clear. India and Pakistan have been at
war since the effectively since the partition in the late
late nineteen forties, and that doesn't seem to be going
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away anytime soon. And sadly that's affected the relationships. Are
two great cracketing nations and they can't get on and
the sport is the worser for it. But I don't
see anything changing anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
No, that seems to be the way it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But here's hoping that some court kind of sportsmanship will
still exist between players and the kind of friendship you
see on the golf course at the end of a competition.
They've fought hammer and nail at that Ryder Cup, but
they were all able to shake hands and the winners
ragodas the losers, well, they're still in the background. The
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headlines out of the UK say England have gathered their
most hostile Ashes bowling attack since nineteen seventy when they
played seven Tests in the Ashes. If you remember back
to seventy seven seventy seventy one, England won two of them.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Well look what they've got now Wood.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Archer, Tungue, Atkinson, casts Pots Stokes as their bowling lineup.
Back in seventy seventy one they had snow Willis, Lever Shuttleworth. Interesting, Jerry,
is that more potent? Is that more hostile than the
seventy seventy one attack that they had overall?
Speaker 7 (05:53):
Perhaps? Yes, Look it's it as predicted side.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
I think they've adhered to their beliefs and the philosophy
from the selectors. They weren't going to abandon that day.
They've picked bowls who bowl at eighty five plus. Apart
from Potts, perhaps you might say he's a more kind
of traditional seema from England. They've got positive, aggressive batting
and they've got tall release spinners who may get bounce
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In Australia, I suppose the features you've mentioned one of
them the bowlers.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
The batting is pretty settled.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
There is an issue about Hope or Bethel perhaps, and
Brook the new vice captain instead of Pope is another
little slight issue maybe. And the second spinner, Will Jacks,
is a bit of a surprise and he returns a
couple of years after a Test in Pakistan.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, we'll have a look and see how it's going
to impact on the Australians when we move a little
bit further through on the front foot suggestion that Bethel
should come in over Pope at three most I'm not
convinced yet that he is the so but they seem
to rate him. He's he's got golden balls.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Isn't he Well, he's talent. But I look at the
side and this has been developed and prepared now over
My observation is eighteen to twenty four months as they've
bought players in from your Atkinson's cars and others, Josh
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Tungue and then you already had Wood and they needed
to have They need to have a big court, a
big group of these balls because a few of them
have been rather injury prone Wood, Archer and co. But
this looks like a very very very good side because
you do need pace, You needed to hit the bat hard,
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and that's what they're bringing here against what will be
an aging Australian attack. So I think it's not an
act in what we see here, and I and I
applaud McCallum and Stokes and Key and co. Who have
who have actively worked to sort of develop our team
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which is going to give them the best chance to
win the Ashes, and by gee, it's going to be interesting,
isn't it. I think I can't wait, Jerry.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Why will Jacks over any of the other spinners. I
guess route will spin as well. They're always quite clearly
going to take my shire.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
That will Jacks.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Sort of comes out from the back of the bike sheds,
doesn't he?
Speaker 7 (08:42):
Yeah, he does a bit.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
It says basically England spinning stocks are very high, especially
for Australian conditions. It says that the selectors I think
don't feel a second spinner is really needed. They're saying, basically,
spin will not win games in Australia. Yes, maybe they're
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also saying we tried Bethel because they did try him
out against India during that five Test series there, but
we don't think he can do the job. So it
looks as if for me that they've gone for what
happens if, in other words, a contingency. So if Stokes
is injured and he couldn't get through five Tests against
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India and there's no obvious like for like a place
replacement for him, you know, a Seema who can bat
so then the other one, of course is if Basher
gets injured. Jacks has been in the side twenty two.
Late twenty two he got a six for if you
member in Pakistan. But more importantly he's a top six batsman.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Now.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
It seems a bit odd to be saying that when
you're picking a spinner. Rayan Armored had some runs and
he got a few wickets this season, but he's in
the second division and how will he go as a
lone spinner.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
They're unlikely to play two in them, aren't they.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
But can he bat with that extra pace and bounce
you're going to get from Australia.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
They don't know that. Liam Dawson left arm orthodox do.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
The holding job maybe, but he doesn't bat as well
as Jax does. Jacks hasn't played much red ball cricket.
I think he's played four or five games in two seasons.
He's more of a white ball player potentially, but he
might bat at number eight. That's a hell of a
batting lineup if he does that. The argument for Jacks
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comes in when you look how overseas spinners get on
in Australia. Overseas spin over the last decade have taken
one hundred and thirty five wickets at sixty two runs
a wicket.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
That's not great.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Nathan Lyon alone, over the same time period has got
one hundred and ninety wickets at thirty, so nearly fifty
percent more wickets and half the runs. If you play
in Australia, though, you've got to have a spinner. Why
it's not a very comfortable place to play, and not
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as comfortable as England. You don't get the intense heat
in England, you don't get the hard surfaces, and you
don't get the pictures with grass. You need to have
someone in the eighty overs to hold up an end
at some point and give the quicks a bit of
a break from bowling with the old cooker butter ball.
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Otherwise you finish your quicks off. They're gone. So someone
else needs to do a bit of a job. And
but sheher has been the man charged with that. He
might take the odd wicket in Australia. He's bowled lots
of overs and he's an important piece of that puzzle.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
For bas Ball does turn it, but doesn't have the
accuracy to be top class.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
So Stokes control the fields for him, deeper set fields
and that makes it hard for Bshar to go under
four and over.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Now, if Basher is injured, Jack's.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Or someone from the line squad, they don't forget. They've
got loads over there. I mean, Dawson will be there.
Basher at the moment has got sixty eight wickets nineteen Tests,
and his run rate or you know, economy rate is
three point seven eight nearly three point eight runs and
over Jack's less of a threat, only two Tests, six wickets,
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but his run rate four point twenty five. So what
the stats say from those tours from a holding role perspective,
bowling a few overs at one end and that kind
of thing. The difference after ten overs each ten overs
from Basher ten overs from Jack's is four point seven runs,
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and Jacks is a top six.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Bat probably a better fielder.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
The fact then that in those selectors' minds, it seems
to me that in that context, as a holding bowler
giving us runs, Jax Moore batting at number eight, no
other spin candidate for us kind of makes a bit
of sense from that perspective, And you know that's I
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think the reason they've looked at will Jacks.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Interesting For the English eyed moose.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Things aren't laid down as there for the Aussies are
they They haven't got an opening batting combination. You talk
about their bowlers aging, I think they are still capable
of doing well, but come and Stark and Hazel with
all injury prone Bolin is there. I don't know if
they've got any others that they can lay their hat on,
but I think their big problem is going to be
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at the top of the order.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Is Laboushine going to play?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Have they got Opener's Kwaja and who they're trying a
couple out? I presume in the tour of India with
the A side at the moment, I can.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Trust the two sides here where we've seen England actively
developing or coming up with what appears to be a
pretty cogent plan around who they're going to need, what
they're going to need. Bashir, he's tall and bounces. They've
thought about that, but there's been planning from a long
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time out.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
What I didn't what I haven't seen from Australia is
anything remotely like that, contemplating what it's going to look like.
And what we have now is we've got Kowadra apparently
is a lot to open, which I find fascinating because
to me. You just get in the first three or
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four overs, get along line because he's going to be
stuck on the crease, and make sure your second and
third slips are all ready to go. And thanks very
much costas well. The jury's out there. Love with Shane.
I think big question marks Smith isn't what he was
and you start to you start to have real problems
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with with with their batting depth. You know, I mean
head head will do what he does and find player.
But what I haven't seen is I don't know where
the rest of the depth is coming from. When they're
going to get exposed to this sort of cricket bowling. Yes,
but Hazelwood Cummins is currently injured. I think I think
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there's uh, there's gaps in all of this and I
don't know, it's hard to see if there's a couple
of people fall away, in particular Cummings and or Hazelwood,
where they go and I don't know what the bat
the batting depth is. I just don't see that A
real question mark.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
The yeah, don't see a lot of backup bowling as well.
I've got a team over in India at the moment.
Now here's a guy for you, Jerry, you can to
do a check on his record. He's taken some wickets
in one of the games. Henry Thornton is his name,
but in fact his full name is longer than a
Sri Lankan name, Henry Thomas Raphael James York Thornton, twenty
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eight years of age.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Grief got a big family wads.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Which he's named up.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Very important people all had it to be in the name,
a lot of brothers. Yeah, look, I take I take
Moose's point at a g Kawaja thirty eight Smiths, thirty
six come in, thirty two start, thirty five bowl and
thirty six Lions thirty eight Ossie, I think prefer seasoned
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players and they've they've kind of been in the last
two World Test Championships.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
They probably prefer.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Them, I think because they know how to play the
guys and they know their games, so pick them rather
than the young guns and they generally.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Okay at home. But Moose is right.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
It's one of the differences between the England and the
Australian approach. Broaden Anderson gone in Come Back from Injury,
Archer and Wood enter cast Tungu Atkinson Potts as I
say as the English m no Sonny Baker, no Ryan
Arbad and Leandorson no Jordan Cox. So that's where they're
starting to look though I think that's probably fair. If
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you looked at this the Aussie a team Constance and
a guy called Kellaway Campbell Kellaway at the top. You've
got a middle order guy called Cooper Connolly, You've got
a keeper called Josh philipp who's getting runs, and you've
got the spinner Todd Murphy who's been used before. Now,
whether they're going to look at those fellas, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
I would suspect not. But the oapener's the older crew.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I guess you could look at players like Marcus Harris
thirty three played for Lancashire, has played four Ashes Tests,
got runs at Lancashire, Cameron Bancroft played as well, he's
played before, and Matt Renshaw.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
They're hoping that Labashaine.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
What they're saying to the Aussies clearly is we're going
to be looking very bloody closely at the first three
Shield matches before we play in Perth, and they're going
to be looking at those matches very closely to finalize
this side and Lavashane will be at the center of that.
He's got eleven hundreds, he's averaging forty six. He's not
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automatic pick now he's been asked to go away and
play on his work, on his game, you know.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
So there's a lot to be done by.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Ossis and I think probably in terms of being prepared,
England might be slightly ahead. As far as the bowlers
are concerned. There's quite a few bowlers that you could
select for Australia. I think obviously Boland would be the
first peck of Cummins doesn't go in. You've got that
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guy Jay coming back from injury from his shoulder. He's
coming back later on and the series Sean Abbott as
a go went to the West Indies, Michael Nisa, Brendan
Doggett and other names. They've got a few Riley Meredith
as pace bowlers, mainly white ball fast bowlers. I would
have to say Xavier Bartlet is around. He'll be here
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and we'll see him in the t twenties. So there
are a few who have got airspeed. Whether they've got
the nipping around obviously Bowlin fits into that category.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
We'll wait and.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
See, but there are there are options there for them
and they're going to They're placing a lot of importance
as I say on those first three shield matches.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
Brian Waddell Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Both the New Zealand sides of the women's side are
taking part in their World Cup and the dates sort
of coincide with the games that the black Caps are playing.
What can we expect from New Zealand? They're up against
a tough lot for the women.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
If they can get into the semi final, that'll be
as good as we might expect. In my opinion, I don't.
I think they're underdone and I think they're going to
struggle in those conditions.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, they've had two warm up games against in the
Air and before well, but modestly. I mean they were
playing fifteen a side and that's hardly an indication And
we just have to wait and see from the black Caps, Jerry,
they've they've picked the best side they've got available. There's
enough depth there, is it good enough to beat this
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Australian side.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Ossie's are always hard to beat wads whatever the format
and whoever they select, So you can expect a battle,
can't you. Both sides have players absent. They got three
games in four days. There will be experimental We're going
to have a hundred of these, aren't we These games
so before the before the T twenty World Cup, so
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they you know, they'll all get games, I would think,
And whoever you want to go through for your first
starting to live, whether it's Conway's Sifeered, Ravendra and then
Mitchell and I guess Chapman and Jacobs or you know,
whoever you could chew. I don't know whether Robinson he's
normally a top three man, isn't he brace will at
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seven And it depends on who you want to bowl.
I would have thought early on in October even even
the you know at tower on or the pitch we'll
have a bit of grass on it. You would have
thought Jameis and Henry Duffy Sears might play it, you know,
and have just just bracewill and as a spinner for
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a start and leave perhaps Stody out for the third match.
I don't know that that how they'll view it. Robins,
Robinson and folks will also games, so let's just wait
and see and hope that they play well.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
It'll be the same for the Aussies.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
You know, they haven't got all their players their head
and marsh normally open now for them. They've got that
guy short and they've gotten the middle order. They got
a number of choices like Tim David and as a
new fellow, I don't know him quite so well. Mitchell
Owen obviously, Maxwell is there. Stuwiness would be the asm
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A bowling option. There's no English. I think he's withdrawn,
hasn't he? So care he'll be the keeper. And then
you've got some of those bowlers we mentioned, Xavier Bartlett
and sewn Abbott and Dorsius and Hazelwood is there so
and then Zampa obviously as a spinner as well. So look,
they'll all get games. I would have thought as well,
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fellas wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
The women?
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Wadd's the women.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I think the.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Women's standard has changed and the quality has moved, hasn't it.
And Ozzie and India nearly scored eight hundred runs in
an Odi the other day, didn't they? So you know,
Sri Lanka maybe at home, have got a chance because
that's where they'll be playing Pakistan. Oz Of won seven
World Cups, England have won four. England beat the medium
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sides quite comfortably, but then when they come up against
the better sides like India and Ossi, they don't quite
do so well. So look we've got a chance, I
agree with Moose. If we can get to the semis,
we'll have done okay. The warm ups are saying Kerr
and Carson are looking like the two spinners and not
so much of the New Devonshire and we need runs
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from Plummer, Halliday and Green as well to go with
our main three.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
You know, Baits, Divine and Kerr.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yep, that's pretty much.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
We'll be looking at that and talking about that competition
over the next few weeks.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Brian Wadold, Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Finally this week, just a acknowledgement of a couple of
identities who have passed away. Former New Zealand fast baller
Bruce Morrison has died age ninety one. We remember him
in partnership with Bob Blair, effectively for Wellington over a
period of time one hundred and sixty seven first class
wickets averaged twenty four.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Did you mess to do with Beady?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
He was a selector for a period of time.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Jerry wasn't he yeah, he was for Wellington. You're quite right,
played obviously for Hutt Valley. As you say, a calm
and gentleman, spoke quietly but very determined and enjoyed the time.
Everyone thought highly of a bed Morrison and he'll be missed.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
He's given a lot to cricket.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I remember one we went through the Canterbury side once
we were down at Lancaster Park staying in the old
hotel there. He went round the team and talked about
the Canterbury side and b D sat quiet and he
leant forward at the end of the meet and said, well,
that's a bloody big build up for Canterbury. He said,
we'll but what we'll do is we'll take them apart
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this way and he gave us a few ideas and
we beat them. And so he was buddy right and
good on him, and so he was. He was a
very determined, quietly spoken man, and I'll miss b D.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I remember him from Cary days when I was a
little boy tied up against the fence while senior club
club cricket was being played.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Had anything to do with him.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
He's on a leash moose.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I know I didn't, but one thing that surprised me
that he only had the one.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
Test, Yeah Wellington.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, and that was in mind to know for a
career that spanned, first career that spanned in those days
quite well, you know, eleven twelve years and knowing what
I find bowling was. I mean, the average just points
to that directly, that he only had the one test.
That did surprise me. I had it in my head
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that he would have played more for New Zealand. But
you know, in speaking to some other people, you know
he was he was a very fine bowler and together
with Blair they were pretty useful from all accounts.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And the other one was Dickie Bird passed away, a
real character in the generation.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Any stories on Dickie Jerry.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Oh, well, you couldn't have a discussion about Dickie without
the stories, could you. As a player first before as
an umpire, he played for Yorkshire and Leicestershire. Very nervous opener,
and I mean he played for Barnsley where he lived.
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Of course, Boycott of course played in the same club,
but he opened with the guy called Michael Parkinson, who
you guys will have heard of. He played for Barnsley,
and one day Michael Parkinson said that Dicky was so
nervous that he buckled his pads together so that when
he got to go up and get up and go
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out and.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Face he actually fell over.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
So he as soon as he became an ump wadge,
he wasn't quite so nervous. But he was quirky and
he was a character, a bit of a not outer
with lbw's. But like all lumps, there were errors, but
not many. His judgments were accepted and he was a
respected umpire by all the players, defiantly passionate about the game.
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Never married, he was married to cricket. He used to say,
I suppose for me the biggest thing I felt looking
back now, how impartial and scrupulously and unimpeachably, unimpeachably fair.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
And that's what made him a favorite.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
He umpired before DRS. He hated DRS. Really he said,
oh you could, you could. It's a machine nowadays with.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Dicky Bird and of course there was the other umpire
who was often partnered, who was David Shepherd. What always
struck me was that they were you knew you had
you had had a fair deal with them. They were scrupulous,
they were impartial, couldn't always be said in those times.
And also they were they were there were men of
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the game and they understood it implicitly, having first class cricketers.
And I just liked a lot about the way they
went about their business in their different ways. Sadly, David
Shepherd passed away very young and well rather thively young,
sixty eight, and but you had that wonderful partnership and
you'd have played against or with him, not with him,
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but in games where Shep and Shepherd and Dicky Birr
would have been umpiring, I would have thought.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Jerry, Yeah, I did both very good umpires.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
And you're right.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
They were often together and what they did was something
we don't see nowadays. They were always in control. You
could get to a certain point. They liked humor, they
would use humor, but at the same time, if things
weren't going well out there, they were in charge, and
there was no doubt about that. They would never have
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allowed the overrate to have got to wear it is nowadays.
They just managed those things really well.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Both of them.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Used humor, even the way, even the way Dickie moved
around the field. You know, you knew it was Dickie.
He still have an erratic body that used to twitch
his shoulders. You really punched at the behind the stumps.
He had these odd lymphs.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
That he used to have. The four arm stretchers was
another one.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
And look as if he's holding dumbbells out and he
was kind of like a cricketing mister bean. You know,
he provoked smiles and it was a real asset of him.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
You know. I remember a match where we were.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Playing, or where we were were playing Lancaster Park, I
think we were playing and I at a moment with
Derek Randall, who was backing up too far in a
one dayer, and I reminded him that he was run
out in a Test match at Lancaster Park a few
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years ago by chats actually, and Derek mumbled mumbled something
quite quickly about wrapping and bats around heads.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Now Dicky heard this.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
He was at the bowler's end and he suddenly dropped
about two or three of the marbles that were in
his hand he used for counters boys boys. He said,
I'm losing my marbles and he started picking them up
and I said, Dickie, we could have told you that
years ago, and we all laughed. We all laughed. He
was very good at deflecting conflict, you know. He often
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did it with bowlers in wander off after a guy
had got a knot out of an lb and he
was very upset or something or other. I remember Lily
was like that, but he off he'd go with Dickie
had wandered back to his fielding position at the end
of the over, and suddenly you'd see the bowler throw
his head back and laugh, you know, it was sort
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of sanity returned, and he was. He was a hell
of a good at that. I mean, the England were
always having him on, weren't they. I mean the number
of times they put snakes in wards or they put
tom some firecrackers down and Dickie. Dickie had been leaping
around behind the stumps doing the Hoki toky or the
chicken dance, you know, behind the stumps, and the old
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one of allan Lamb giving him his old mobile phone
to hold, you know, when they were like bricks in
those days, and was pulling one side of his shoulders
down and sure enough, within two or three minutes the
phone would go off in his pocket and there would
be the imperious voice at the other end, sounding rather
like Ian, both of them, and it would say tell
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Lamb to get on with it or get out or
something like that, you know, and Dicky would start, his
shoulders would be hunched and laughing.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I remember the first game he did of New Zealand
on the tour of Zimbabwe. It was is Zelland's first
ever Test in Zimbabwe and the Test was in Bullaweo
and Dicky was there as an invited umpire. It wasn't
in the days of having independent umpires. I think he
stood with Ian Robinson or something along those lines. And
in Bulawayo in those days it was very dry, and
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in fact it hadn't rained for two years except on
the day before the Test match started, and it pelted
down overnight. The next morning we arrived at the ground
and it was as dry as the ground apart from
one little area at the corner of the covers, and
that was very wet, and Dickie wouldn't let play start
till four point thirty in the afternoon because.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
He thought it was too dangerous.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
The ground was rock hard, even though it had rained
the night before, and that was Dickie because I think
he was a sort of weather man in another life,
wasn't he the other thing? And I don't know whether
this is a true story or not, Jerry, And it
may well have involved you. Was when John Bracewell was
bowling and he called the captain asked to have Bracewell
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taken off?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Was that you the captain?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Ah? Well, apparently, And it may well be a story
that lacks a little bit in authenticity, but apparently brace
As he used to appeal rather loudly and didn't have
a long follow through show. It was nearby the umpire
and Dickie Bird called the captain up whoever it was,
and said, could you.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Please bowl this man from the other end?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
He's making me deaf?
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Can't hear the edges the fine visa? That's so good? Yeah,
he wouldn't like that. He wouldn't like that, but he was.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
He was a super character.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
And you're right.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I mean I saw him a couple of times with
Shep at games, and Shep used to have to look
after him, you know, make sure that he got to
the dinner table on time, make sure that he got
to the plane and so forth, because he was such
a character. He could get interrupted by anybody at any time,
and people wanted to talk. And he wasn't scared of talking,
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was he, Dickie?
Speaker 6 (34:50):
But he was. He always seemed to have a laugh.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I never saw him down or depressed in any form
at all around the cricket field.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
No, you're right.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
He was very twitchy about rain, wasn't he. That was
one thing that really set him off. And there was
a game the Westend. He's a Headingly and the West
Indies are fielding and Dickie said he was waiting and
waiting for the bowler to arrive behind him, and suddenly
he heard a lot of talking, loud noise behind him
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and there in the run up a water pipe at
Headingley had burst in the ground. And you may have
heard of this one, but I mean Dickie had to
take them off and people were moaning about mister Burden.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
What are you doing? They said, we need a plumber
out there, not sawdust, you know.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
And that was that was typical of him as well.
You mentioned taking looking after him and taking him to
the table and that sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
My last little story. I mean, there's there's loads of
them about.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
But we were touring England in eighty three and a
woman was serving lunch to us, and she told me
a story about how had she had to cook for
the players and some other rooms, you know, for the
for the gentry for lunch, and she needed to change
out of a chef's clothes of whites and into the
into something better to serve the food, and there were
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no women's facilities, so Dickie used to usher her into
the umpire's room to have a quick shower and a
change and that sort of thing. And he used to
stand guard outside the door and make sure no one entered.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
So he was a proper gent, this lady said to me.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
And he said, said, I paid him back in puddings,
which rather amused me.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Last time I saw Dickie.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Last time I saw Dickie, he was at Headingley this year,
sitting with his old mate Jeffrey Boycott on a balcony,
and he.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Looked a little tired. I got to say. It was
a balcony built for the players.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
And you know how Yorkshire have had no money in
the last couple.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Of years, so who was it paid? By Dickie himself?
Speaker 5 (36:58):
One hundred and twenty five thousand, And I said to him,
look Dickie Lender survivor and he laughed, he laughed, and
I've got to say for me, it's a very appropriate
memory of him, you know now anyway.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah, he was certainly a generous man.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And they finished off by acknowledging Evan Gray, who sent
you a photo of Dicky with a New Zealand cap
on in the dressing room. Yeah, the Obal in nineteen
eighty six. Luckily he's got a towel wrapped around the lower.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Regions, that's all.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
And a new Zealand cap on. Yeah I remember.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah, So we'll put we'll put that up on the
on the front foot website, roll with a lot of
cricket to watch over the next three months. And if
you love your tea twitty cricket boy, oh boy, there's
no shortage of it, you know, it'll it'll have your
heir being ripped out of.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
The top of your head moson and.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Just before here raising stuff, yeah raising, well tell you what?
Not too many heres between the three of us. Really,
I've got to say out there, that's no good at all,
is it.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Really?
Speaker 6 (38:04):
You've looked after your hip. He's pretty well and we're
proud of you.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
It's very firmly in play.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
So I looked at what Martin did several years ago
and it seemed okay to me.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Good there's just been woven properly. That's the main thing.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Friday, well, we'll be talking cricket for a while now.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
So thank you, goodious guys. Lest Summer set.
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Hello again, We're back on the front foot this week.
Challenges and controversy and sadly fairwells mark the current cricket
world news, the controversy and abrasive tea twenty between India
and Pakistan. Should we expect anything else? Well, yes we should.
The farewells to cricket identities pass on and England named
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their ashes squad the Black Caps and the White French. Prepare
for demanding challenges coming up ahead. Wow, you've had a
weekend of sport through the last few days. Jeremy Coney
to the All Blacks women's team. The netballer squeaked home
by one that sport of all sports, golf, the Ryder Cup. Boy,
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didn't they provide some close finishes for us.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I'm exhausted, once exhausted from those things. I need to
go and have a good light down. Sorry I was
late starting.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
No, never mind, we always make up for it in
the end.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Most you would have watched all that stuff when you're
or have you been busy doing other things?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
No, no, no, I very much took a considerable interest
and delight at Europe winning the Ryder Cup. Not sure
I'm that keen on on how the crowd seem to
be responding, and it's a bit unfortunate. We don't mind
a better hackling and enthusiasm, but it's it's went a
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bit far.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I think, yeah, it does, and that's the contest. And
I suppose that's a public opinion or the way the public.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
React these days.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But certainly it's a better sporting spectacle on what has
been seen in the Asia Cup cricket, and I'm afraid
India and Pakistan doing disservice to the game of cricket. Yes,
Harris Rolf across the line with his political gesture, but
he wasn't the only one. There were quite a few
of them across the line.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
In that series.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But I think the worst feature from my point of view,
whatever you believe about the political aspects, is neither side
shook hands at the end twice, and to me, that
is the tradition of the game. That is part of
the sportsmanship of the game. And whatever you do in cricket,
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you've got to respect your opponents and you've got to
respect the traditions of the game. You disrespect that and
that comes at a cost. I don't know how you feel, Jerry,
but to me it was totally disrespectful. You know, you
might not like your opposition, but you always respect them.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yeah, I can't disagree with that. Only takes about one
and a half seconds, doesn't it. But it says a
lot and as soon as it's not done, you notice it. Look,
they used to say sport built bridges, didn't they. It
doesn't seem to be the case in some instances anymore.
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I would have thought, if you want to make openly
political stances, which is what you're talking about, I think
you make yourself unavailable.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
I really do.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I think if you want to use that as a
platform to do that, then I'm afraid doesn't have a place,
and so do the good thing, and that's that's not
I can't play against these guys.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
In terms of how it should be. I completely agree
with you. However, what we have here is an intractable situation.
Let's be quite clear. India and Pakistan have been at
war since the effectively since the partition in the late
late nineteen forties, and that doesn't seem to be going
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away anytime soon. And sadly that's affected the relationships. Are
two great cracketing nations and they can't get on and
the sport is the worser for it. But I don't
see anything changing anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
No, that seems to be the way it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But here's hoping that some court kind of sportsmanship will
still exist between players and the kind of friendship you
see on the golf course at the end of a competition.
They've fought hammer and nail at that Ryder Cup, but
they were all able to shake hands and the winners
ragodas the losers, well, they're still in the background. The
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headlines out of the UK say England have gathered their
most hostile Ashes bowling attack since nineteen seventy when they
played seven Tests in the Ashes. If you remember back
to seventy seven seventy seventy one, England won two of them.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Well look what they've got now Wood.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Archer, Tungue, Atkinson, casts Pots Stokes as their bowling lineup.
Back in seventy seventy one they had snow Willis, Lever Shuttleworth. Interesting, Jerry,
is that more potent? Is that more hostile than the
seventy seventy one attack that they had overall?
Speaker 7 (05:53):
Perhaps? Yes, Look it's it as predicted side.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
I think they've adhered to their beliefs and the philosophy
from the selectors. They weren't going to abandon that day.
They've picked bowls who bowl at eighty five plus. Apart
from Potts, perhaps you might say he's a more kind
of traditional seema from England. They've got positive, aggressive batting
and they've got tall release spinners who may get bounce
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In Australia, I suppose the features you've mentioned one of
them the bowlers.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
The batting is pretty settled.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
There is an issue about Hope or Bethel perhaps, and
Brook the new vice captain instead of Pope is another
little slight issue maybe. And the second spinner, Will Jacks,
is a bit of a surprise and he returns a
couple of years after a Test in Pakistan.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, we'll have a look and see how it's going
to impact on the Australians when we move a little
bit further through on the front foot suggestion that Bethel
should come in over Pope at three most I'm not
convinced yet that he is the so but they seem
to rate him. He's he's got golden balls.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Isn't he Well, he's talent. But I look at the
side and this has been developed and prepared now over
My observation is eighteen to twenty four months as they've
bought players in from your Atkinson's cars and others, Josh
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Tungue and then you already had Wood and they needed
to have They need to have a big court, a
big group of these balls because a few of them
have been rather injury prone Wood, Archer and co. But
this looks like a very very very good side because
you do need pace, You needed to hit the bat hard,
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and that's what they're bringing here against what will be
an aging Australian attack. So I think it's not an
act in what we see here, and I and I
applaud McCallum and Stokes and Key and co. Who have
who have actively worked to sort of develop our team
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which is going to give them the best chance to
win the Ashes, and by gee, it's going to be interesting,
isn't it. I think I can't wait, Jerry.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Why will Jacks over any of the other spinners. I
guess route will spin as well. They're always quite clearly
going to take my shire.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
That will Jacks.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Sort of comes out from the back of the bike sheds,
doesn't he?
Speaker 7 (08:42):
Yeah, he does a bit.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
It says basically England spinning stocks are very high, especially
for Australian conditions. It says that the selectors I think
don't feel a second spinner is really needed. They're saying, basically,
spin will not win games in Australia. Yes, maybe they're
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also saying we tried Bethel because they did try him
out against India during that five Test series there, but
we don't think he can do the job. So it
looks as if for me that they've gone for what
happens if, in other words, a contingency. So if Stokes
is injured and he couldn't get through five Tests against
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India and there's no obvious like for like a place
replacement for him, you know, a Seema who can bat
so then the other one, of course is if Basher
gets injured. Jacks has been in the side twenty two.
Late twenty two he got a six for if you
member in Pakistan. But more importantly he's a top six batsman.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Now.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
It seems a bit odd to be saying that when
you're picking a spinner. Rayan Armored had some runs and
he got a few wickets this season, but he's in
the second division and how will he go as a
lone spinner.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
They're unlikely to play two in them, aren't they.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
But can he bat with that extra pace and bounce
you're going to get from Australia.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
They don't know that. Liam Dawson left arm orthodox do.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
The holding job maybe, but he doesn't bat as well
as Jax does. Jacks hasn't played much red ball cricket.
I think he's played four or five games in two seasons.
He's more of a white ball player potentially, but he
might bat at number eight. That's a hell of a
batting lineup if he does that. The argument for Jacks
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comes in when you look how overseas spinners get on
in Australia. Overseas spin over the last decade have taken
one hundred and thirty five wickets at sixty two runs
a wicket.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
That's not great.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Nathan Lyon alone, over the same time period has got
one hundred and ninety wickets at thirty, so nearly fifty
percent more wickets and half the runs. If you play
in Australia, though, you've got to have a spinner. Why
it's not a very comfortable place to play, and not
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as comfortable as England. You don't get the intense heat
in England, you don't get the hard surfaces, and you
don't get the pictures with grass. You need to have
someone in the eighty overs to hold up an end
at some point and give the quicks a bit of
a break from bowling with the old cooker butter ball.
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Otherwise you finish your quicks off. They're gone. So someone
else needs to do a bit of a job. And
but sheher has been the man charged with that. He
might take the odd wicket in Australia. He's bowled lots
of overs and he's an important piece of that puzzle.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
For bas Ball does turn it, but doesn't have the
accuracy to be top class.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
So Stokes control the fields for him, deeper set fields
and that makes it hard for Bshar to go under
four and over.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Now, if Basher is injured, Jack's.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Or someone from the line squad, they don't forget. They've
got loads over there. I mean, Dawson will be there.
Basher at the moment has got sixty eight wickets nineteen Tests,
and his run rate or you know, economy rate is
three point seven eight nearly three point eight runs and
over Jack's less of a threat, only two Tests, six wickets,
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but his run rate four point twenty five. So what
the stats say from those tours from a holding role perspective,
bowling a few overs at one end and that kind
of thing. The difference after ten overs each ten overs
from Basher ten overs from Jack's is four point seven runs,
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and Jacks is a top six.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Bat probably a better fielder.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
The fact then that in those selectors' minds, it seems
to me that in that context, as a holding bowler
giving us runs, Jax Moore batting at number eight, no
other spin candidate for us kind of makes a bit
of sense from that perspective, And you know that's I
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think the reason they've looked at will Jacks.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Interesting For the English eyed moose.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Things aren't laid down as there for the Aussies are
they They haven't got an opening batting combination. You talk
about their bowlers aging, I think they are still capable
of doing well, but come and Stark and Hazel with
all injury prone Bolin is there. I don't know if
they've got any others that they can lay their hat on,
but I think their big problem is going to be
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at the top of the order.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Is Laboushine going to play?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Have they got Opener's Kwaja and who they're trying a
couple out? I presume in the tour of India with
the A side at the moment, I can.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Trust the two sides here where we've seen England actively
developing or coming up with what appears to be a
pretty cogent plan around who they're going to need, what
they're going to need. Bashir, he's tall and bounces. They've
thought about that, but there's been planning from a long
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time out.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
What I didn't what I haven't seen from Australia is
anything remotely like that, contemplating what it's going to look like.
And what we have now is we've got Kowadra apparently
is a lot to open, which I find fascinating because
to me. You just get in the first three or
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four overs, get along line because he's going to be
stuck on the crease, and make sure your second and
third slips are all ready to go. And thanks very
much costas well. The jury's out there. Love with Shane.
I think big question marks Smith isn't what he was
and you start to you start to have real problems
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with with with their batting depth. You know, I mean
head head will do what he does and find player.
But what I haven't seen is I don't know where
the rest of the depth is coming from. When they're
going to get exposed to this sort of cricket bowling. Yes,
but Hazelwood Cummins is currently injured. I think I think
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there's uh, there's gaps in all of this and I
don't know, it's hard to see if there's a couple
of people fall away, in particular Cummings and or Hazelwood,
where they go and I don't know what the bat
the batting depth is. I just don't see that A
real question mark.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
The yeah, don't see a lot of backup bowling as well.
I've got a team over in India at the moment.
Now here's a guy for you, Jerry, you can to
do a check on his record. He's taken some wickets
in one of the games. Henry Thornton is his name,
but in fact his full name is longer than a
Sri Lankan name, Henry Thomas Raphael James York Thornton, twenty
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eight years of age.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Grief got a big family wads.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Which he's named up.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Very important people all had it to be in the name,
a lot of brothers. Yeah, look, I take I take
Moose's point at a g Kawaja thirty eight Smiths, thirty
six come in, thirty two start, thirty five bowl and
thirty six Lions thirty eight Ossie, I think prefer seasoned
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players and they've they've kind of been in the last
two World Test Championships.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
They probably prefer.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Them, I think because they know how to play the
guys and they know their games, so pick them rather
than the young guns and they generally.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Okay at home. But Moose is right.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
It's one of the differences between the England and the
Australian approach. Broaden Anderson gone in Come Back from Injury,
Archer and Wood enter cast Tungu Atkinson Potts as I
say as the English m no Sonny Baker, no Ryan
Arbad and Leandorson no Jordan Cox. So that's where they're
starting to look though I think that's probably fair. If
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you looked at this the Aussie a team Constance and
a guy called Kellaway Campbell Kellaway at the top. You've
got a middle order guy called Cooper Connolly, You've got
a keeper called Josh philipp who's getting runs, and you've
got the spinner Todd Murphy who's been used before. Now,
whether they're going to look at those fellas, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
I would suspect not. But the oapener's the older crew.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I guess you could look at players like Marcus Harris
thirty three played for Lancashire, has played four Ashes Tests,
got runs at Lancashire, Cameron Bancroft played as well, he's
played before, and Matt Renshaw.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
They're hoping that Labashaine.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
What they're saying to the Aussies clearly is we're going
to be looking very bloody closely at the first three
Shield matches before we play in Perth, and they're going
to be looking at those matches very closely to finalize
this side and Lavashane will be at the center of that.
He's got eleven hundreds, he's averaging forty six. He's not
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automatic pick now he's been asked to go away and
play on his work, on his game, you know.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
So there's a lot to be done by.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Ossis and I think probably in terms of being prepared,
England might be slightly ahead. As far as the bowlers
are concerned. There's quite a few bowlers that you could
select for Australia. I think obviously Boland would be the
first peck of Cummins doesn't go in. You've got that
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guy Jay coming back from injury from his shoulder. He's
coming back later on and the series Sean Abbott as
a go went to the West Indies, Michael Nisa, Brendan
Doggett and other names. They've got a few Riley Meredith
as pace bowlers, mainly white ball fast bowlers. I would
have to say Xavier Bartlet is around. He'll be here
(19:30):
and we'll see him in the t twenties. So there
are a few who have got airspeed. Whether they've got
the nipping around obviously Bowlin fits into that category.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
We'll wait and.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
See, but there are there are options there for them
and they're going to They're placing a lot of importance
as I say on those first three shield matches.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
Brian Waddell Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Both the New Zealand sides of the women's side are
taking part in their World Cup and the dates sort
of coincide with the games that the black Caps are playing.
What can we expect from New Zealand? They're up against
a tough lot for the women.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
If they can get into the semi final, that'll be
as good as we might expect. In my opinion, I don't.
I think they're underdone and I think they're going to
struggle in those conditions.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, they've had two warm up games against in the
Air and before well, but modestly. I mean they were
playing fifteen a side and that's hardly an indication And
we just have to wait and see from the black Caps, Jerry,
they've they've picked the best side they've got available. There's
enough depth there, is it good enough to beat this
(20:49):
Australian side.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Ossie's are always hard to beat wads whatever the format
and whoever they select, So you can expect a battle,
can't you. Both sides have players absent. They got three
games in four days. There will be experimental We're going
to have a hundred of these, aren't we These games
so before the before the T twenty World Cup, so
(21:15):
they you know, they'll all get games, I would think,
And whoever you want to go through for your first
starting to live, whether it's Conway's Sifeered, Ravendra and then
Mitchell and I guess Chapman and Jacobs or you know,
whoever you could chew. I don't know whether Robinson he's
normally a top three man, isn't he brace will at
(21:36):
seven And it depends on who you want to bowl.
I would have thought early on in October even even
the you know at tower on or the pitch we'll
have a bit of grass on it. You would have
thought Jameis and Henry Duffy Sears might play it, you know,
and have just just bracewill and as a spinner for
(21:57):
a start and leave perhaps Stody out for the third match.
I don't know that that how they'll view it. Robins,
Robinson and folks will also games, so let's just wait
and see and hope that they play well.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
It'll be the same for the Aussies.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
You know, they haven't got all their players their head
and marsh normally open now for them. They've got that
guy short and they've gotten the middle order. They got
a number of choices like Tim David and as a
new fellow, I don't know him quite so well. Mitchell
Owen obviously, Maxwell is there. Stuwiness would be the asm
(22:36):
A bowling option. There's no English. I think he's withdrawn,
hasn't he? So care he'll be the keeper. And then
you've got some of those bowlers we mentioned, Xavier Bartlett
and sewn Abbott and Dorsius and Hazelwood is there so
and then Zampa obviously as a spinner as well. So look,
they'll all get games. I would have thought as well,
(22:57):
fellas wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
The women?
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Wadd's the women.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I think the.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Women's standard has changed and the quality has moved, hasn't it.
And Ozzie and India nearly scored eight hundred runs in
an Odi the other day, didn't they? So you know,
Sri Lanka maybe at home, have got a chance because
that's where they'll be playing Pakistan. Oz Of won seven
World Cups, England have won four. England beat the medium
(23:29):
sides quite comfortably, but then when they come up against
the better sides like India and Ossi, they don't quite
do so well. So look we've got a chance, I
agree with Moose. If we can get to the semis,
we'll have done okay. The warm ups are saying Kerr
and Carson are looking like the two spinners and not
so much of the New Devonshire and we need runs
(23:52):
from Plummer, Halliday and Green as well to go with
our main three.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
You know, Baits, Divine and Kerr.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yep, that's pretty much.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
We'll be looking at that and talking about that competition
over the next few weeks.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Brian Wadold, Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Finally this week, just a acknowledgement of a couple of
identities who have passed away. Former New Zealand fast baller
Bruce Morrison has died age ninety one. We remember him
in partnership with Bob Blair, effectively for Wellington over a
period of time one hundred and sixty seven first class
wickets averaged twenty four.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Did you mess to do with Beady?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
He was a selector for a period of time.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Jerry wasn't he yeah, he was for Wellington. You're quite right,
played obviously for Hutt Valley. As you say, a calm
and gentleman, spoke quietly but very determined and enjoyed the time.
Everyone thought highly of a bed Morrison and he'll be missed.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
He's given a lot to cricket.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I remember one we went through the Canterbury side once
we were down at Lancaster Park staying in the old
hotel there. He went round the team and talked about
the Canterbury side and b D sat quiet and he
leant forward at the end of the meet and said, well,
that's a bloody big build up for Canterbury. He said,
we'll but what we'll do is we'll take them apart
(25:21):
this way and he gave us a few ideas and
we beat them. And so he was buddy right and
good on him, and so he was. He was a
very determined, quietly spoken man, and I'll miss b D.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I remember him from Cary days when I was a
little boy tied up against the fence while senior club
club cricket was being played.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Had anything to do with him.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
He's on a leash moose.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I know I didn't, but one thing that surprised me
that he only had the one.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
Test, Yeah Wellington.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, and that was in mind to know for a
career that spanned, first career that spanned in those days
quite well, you know, eleven twelve years and knowing what
I find bowling was. I mean, the average just points
to that directly, that he only had the one test.
That did surprise me. I had it in my head
(26:22):
that he would have played more for New Zealand. But
you know, in speaking to some other people, you know
he was he was a very fine bowler and together
with Blair they were pretty useful from all accounts.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And the other one was Dickie Bird passed away, a
real character in the generation.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Any stories on Dickie Jerry.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Oh, well, you couldn't have a discussion about Dickie without
the stories, could you. As a player first before as
an umpire, he played for Yorkshire and Leicestershire. Very nervous opener,
and I mean he played for Barnsley where he lived.
(27:03):
Of course, Boycott of course played in the same club,
but he opened with the guy called Michael Parkinson, who
you guys will have heard of. He played for Barnsley,
and one day Michael Parkinson said that Dicky was so
nervous that he buckled his pads together so that when
he got to go up and get up and go
(27:25):
out and.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Face he actually fell over.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
So he as soon as he became an ump wadge,
he wasn't quite so nervous. But he was quirky and
he was a character, a bit of a not outer
with lbw's. But like all lumps, there were errors, but
not many. His judgments were accepted and he was a
respected umpire by all the players, defiantly passionate about the game.
(27:52):
Never married, he was married to cricket. He used to say,
I suppose for me the biggest thing I felt looking
back now, how impartial and scrupulously and unimpeachably, unimpeachably fair.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
And that's what made him a favorite.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
He umpired before DRS. He hated DRS. Really he said,
oh you could, you could. It's a machine nowadays with.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Dicky Bird and of course there was the other umpire
who was often partnered, who was David Shepherd. What always
struck me was that they were you knew you had
you had had a fair deal with them. They were scrupulous,
they were impartial, couldn't always be said in those times.
And also they were they were there were men of
(28:41):
the game and they understood it implicitly, having first class cricketers.
And I just liked a lot about the way they
went about their business in their different ways. Sadly, David
Shepherd passed away very young and well rather thively young,
sixty eight, and but you had that wonderful partnership and
you'd have played against or with him, not with him,
(29:02):
but in games where Shep and Shepherd and Dicky Birr
would have been umpiring, I would have thought.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Jerry, Yeah, I did both very good umpires.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
And you're right.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
They were often together and what they did was something
we don't see nowadays. They were always in control. You
could get to a certain point. They liked humor, they
would use humor, but at the same time, if things
weren't going well out there, they were in charge, and
there was no doubt about that. They would never have
(29:34):
allowed the overrate to have got to wear it is nowadays.
They just managed those things really well.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Both of them.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Used humor, even the way, even the way Dickie moved
around the field. You know, you knew it was Dickie.
He still have an erratic body that used to twitch
his shoulders. You really punched at the behind the stumps.
He had these odd lymphs.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
That he used to have. The four arm stretchers was
another one.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
And look as if he's holding dumbbells out and he
was kind of like a cricketing mister bean. You know,
he provoked smiles and it was a real asset of him.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
You know. I remember a match where we were.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Playing, or where we were were playing Lancaster Park, I
think we were playing and I at a moment with
Derek Randall, who was backing up too far in a
one dayer, and I reminded him that he was run
out in a Test match at Lancaster Park a few
(30:43):
years ago by chats actually, and Derek mumbled mumbled something
quite quickly about wrapping and bats around heads.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Now Dicky heard this.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
He was at the bowler's end and he suddenly dropped
about two or three of the marbles that were in
his hand he used for counters boys boys. He said,
I'm losing my marbles and he started picking them up
and I said, Dickie, we could have told you that
years ago, and we all laughed. We all laughed. He
was very good at deflecting conflict, you know. He often
(31:21):
did it with bowlers in wander off after a guy
had got a knot out of an lb and he
was very upset or something or other. I remember Lily
was like that, but he off he'd go with Dickie
had wandered back to his fielding position at the end
of the over, and suddenly you'd see the bowler throw
his head back and laugh, you know, it was sort
(31:43):
of sanity returned, and he was. He was a hell
of a good at that. I mean, the England were
always having him on, weren't they. I mean the number
of times they put snakes in wards or they put
tom some firecrackers down and Dickie. Dickie had been leaping
around behind the stumps doing the Hoki toky or the
chicken dance, you know, behind the stumps, and the old
(32:08):
one of allan Lamb giving him his old mobile phone
to hold, you know, when they were like bricks in
those days, and was pulling one side of his shoulders
down and sure enough, within two or three minutes the
phone would go off in his pocket and there would
be the imperious voice at the other end, sounding rather
like Ian, both of them, and it would say tell
(32:30):
Lamb to get on with it or get out or
something like that, you know, and Dicky would start, his
shoulders would be hunched and laughing.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I remember the first game he did of New Zealand
on the tour of Zimbabwe. It was is Zelland's first
ever Test in Zimbabwe and the Test was in Bullaweo
and Dicky was there as an invited umpire. It wasn't
in the days of having independent umpires. I think he
stood with Ian Robinson or something along those lines. And
in Bulawayo in those days it was very dry, and
(33:02):
in fact it hadn't rained for two years except on
the day before the Test match started, and it pelted
down overnight. The next morning we arrived at the ground
and it was as dry as the ground apart from
one little area at the corner of the covers, and
that was very wet, and Dickie wouldn't let play start
till four point thirty in the afternoon because.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
He thought it was too dangerous.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
The ground was rock hard, even though it had rained
the night before, and that was Dickie because I think
he was a sort of weather man in another life,
wasn't he the other thing? And I don't know whether
this is a true story or not, Jerry, And it
may well have involved you. Was when John Bracewell was
bowling and he called the captain asked to have Bracewell
(33:47):
taken off?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Was that you the captain?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Ah? Well, apparently, And it may well be a story
that lacks a little bit in authenticity, but apparently brace
As he used to appeal rather loudly and didn't have
a long follow through show. It was nearby the umpire
and Dickie Bird called the captain up whoever it was,
and said, could you.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Please bowl this man from the other end?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
He's making me deaf?
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Can't hear the edges the fine visa? That's so good? Yeah,
he wouldn't like that. He wouldn't like that, but he was.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
He was a super character.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
And you're right.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I mean I saw him a couple of times with
Shep at games, and Shep used to have to look
after him, you know, make sure that he got to
the dinner table on time, make sure that he got
to the plane and so forth, because he was such
a character. He could get interrupted by anybody at any time,
and people wanted to talk. And he wasn't scared of talking,
(34:49):
was he, Dickie?
Speaker 6 (34:50):
But he was. He always seemed to have a laugh.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I never saw him down or depressed in any form
at all around the cricket field.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
No, you're right.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
He was very twitchy about rain, wasn't he. That was
one thing that really set him off. And there was
a game the Westend. He's a Headingly and the West
Indies are fielding and Dickie said he was waiting and
waiting for the bowler to arrive behind him, and suddenly
he heard a lot of talking, loud noise behind him
(35:19):
and there in the run up a water pipe at
Headingley had burst in the ground. And you may have
heard of this one, but I mean Dickie had to
take them off and people were moaning about mister Burden.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
What are you doing? They said, we need a plumber
out there, not sawdust, you know.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
And that was that was typical of him as well.
You mentioned taking looking after him and taking him to
the table and that sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
My last little story. I mean, there's there's loads of
them about.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
But we were touring England in eighty three and a
woman was serving lunch to us, and she told me
a story about how had she had to cook for
the players and some other rooms, you know, for the
for the gentry for lunch, and she needed to change
out of a chef's clothes of whites and into the
into something better to serve the food, and there were
(36:10):
no women's facilities, so Dickie used to usher her into
the umpire's room to have a quick shower and a
change and that sort of thing. And he used to
stand guard outside the door and make sure no one entered.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
So he was a proper gent, this lady said to me.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
And he said, said, I paid him back in puddings,
which rather amused me.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Last time I saw Dickie.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Last time I saw Dickie, he was at Headingley this year,
sitting with his old mate Jeffrey Boycott on a balcony,
and he.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Looked a little tired. I got to say. It was
a balcony built for the players.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
And you know how Yorkshire have had no money in
the last couple.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Of years, so who was it paid? By Dickie himself?
Speaker 5 (36:58):
One hundred and twenty five thousand, And I said to him,
look Dickie Lender survivor and he laughed, he laughed, and
I've got to say for me, it's a very appropriate
memory of him, you know now anyway.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah, he was certainly a generous man.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And they finished off by acknowledging Evan Gray, who sent
you a photo of Dicky with a New Zealand cap
on in the dressing room. Yeah, the Obal in nineteen
eighty six. Luckily he's got a towel wrapped around the lower.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Regions, that's all.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
And a new Zealand cap on. Yeah I remember.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah, So we'll put we'll put that up on the
on the front foot website, roll with a lot of
cricket to watch over the next three months. And if
you love your tea twitty cricket boy, oh boy, there's
no shortage of it, you know, it'll it'll have your
heir being ripped out of.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
The top of your head moson and.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Just before here raising stuff, yeah raising, well tell you what?
Not too many heres between the three of us. Really,
I've got to say out there, that's no good at all,
is it.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Really?
Speaker 6 (38:04):
You've looked after your hip. He's pretty well and we're
proud of you.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
It's very firmly in play.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
So I looked at what Martin did several years ago
and it seemed okay to me.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Good there's just been woven properly. That's the main thing.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Friday, well, we'll be talking cricket for a while now.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
So thank you, goodious guys. Lest Summer set.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
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Speaker 1 (38:40):
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