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Glenn Beck breaking down the top storiesand how it impacts your life. Monday
morning at nine on fifty five krzD talkstation. All right, we're thirty
three minutes after the top of theare talking a little home improvement. Joining
me now is Zach and he iswith Aero Seals Zach Reid. Welcome that
home with Gary Salvin. How youdoing. I'm doing fantastic, Gary.
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How are you good? Gee?Too much turkey? Yes, I did.
Thank you for recovering. I knowit gets harder to Oh golly.
So I've been chatting today a littlebit about the duck work, talking about
cleaning duck work and how important thatis, and kind of talked about leaky
duck work, which is where we'rebringing you in to discuss. So how
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much air actually leaks out of theduck work and when did this become a
problem. It has always been aproblem. So, uh, from the
point of adding duck work to ahome, you know, brand new construction,
it leaks probably twenty to thirty percent. And that's modeled federally. That's
in all of the energy code,all of the you know, everywhere we
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know it leaks. Now is dopeople put that in consideration when they're sizing
a unit. So actually, yeah, if you have a home that you
know got ducted in the forties orfifties, and you know that it was
sized right to begin with, yougo to get a replacement system, they'll
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oversize it. They know your HVACcontractor knows that your ducks leak, and
they can get away with a biggerunit. The problem there is you're spending
way more, way more money forway more energy that you don't actually get
to the conditioned space. Plus,if you oversize a unit, they seem
to be less efficient too. That'sexactly right, less efficient you start blowing
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out blower motors. All news itis. So let's talk about the leaks
in the duckworks. I guess let'sgive homeowners a little project. I think
if they have a basement, across space, maybe the heating pipes go
through the attic or something where they'reaccessible if you really examine the duck work
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that you can get to. Ofcourse we can't get to it behind the
ceiling or behind the walls, butif you can get to some exposed duckwork,
you'll see the issue, will younot? So yeah, perfect,
So you go go to wherever yourfurnace or ac is and look at the
first connection. You know, itgoes into a plane, and it goes
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into a big metal box, andright at the corners you'll probably see some
vertical straight lines of dust and ifyou put your finger across that, the
dust comes off. Well where doesdust go. It goes where air is
moving, and that coming directly fromthe corner or wherever that joint is on
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your h vacuum. And of courseyou could you could seal that upright then
you've got access to it, right, But I'll tell you it's every single
joint all the way through your houseand your walls right up to the registers,
and you can't access them all.Yeah, what were you described where
the planem was? I had theaerocol applied to my duck where I almost
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say, twenty plus years ago,where that planem was and where it was
connected. It was almost the hole. There was a hole. It wasn't
just a seam, there was awhole. I could almost put my finger
in it. It was unbelievable.And that's that standard manufacturing. That's how
how these things are put in yourhouse. And it's always been good enough,
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right, Yeah, but good enoughisn't good enough, right, I'd
rather save that thirty percent of energythat I'm throwing into the walls. So
if I sealed the inside of myduck work, I should notice that on
my fuel savings, correct, Imean that's exactly right. Okay, So
you'll notice it on your bill andyou'll notice it in your comfort. So
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I've got a room on the topfloor of my house that is always a
little bit hotter than the rest ofthe house, and always and right now
a little bit cooler than the restof the house. After I aero sealed,
it felt way better, and mybill went down about ten percent.
Average across the country is fifteen Okay, So you'll save fifteen percent off your
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actual energy use of your total house. Not just energy or not just heating
and cooling bills, but you're totalelectricity, your total natural gas. Do
you get delivered gas that too?It's a big deal. So every home
has this problem, right, ifyou have duct work, it leaks period.
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Well that's confidence. So and thatgot everybody excited about this. Yeah,
So when I contact AEROCEO, I'massuming this is a product that is
applied professionally. I'm sure at yourwebsite, Aeroco, you have contractors that
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can take care of this issue,But what is the process? Do they
do an analysis of how much leakydo you have? So from that same
statement, right, every duck leaks, they're not going to waste the time
to come and check. They knowit leaks if it hasn't been done before.
Okay, So what you'll do isyou'll probably get on the phone and
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talk to them and tell them howmany HVAC systems you have. If you're
in a bigger house and have two, they're going to want to know that.
Just like a duck cleaner. Theymight ask how many how many registers
or events you have? Okay,and if they don't ask any of that,
they'll come out and look. Nowthey're going to look at everything.
See you know if it needs cleanedfirst, if there's a ton of dust
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and dirt, we don't want toseal all that in. But that's it,
right, they'll give you a quote, they'll tell you how much it
is, and what they'll do isthey'll come and they'll bring the machine in,
they'll look it up to your systemand before they blow any sealant,
before they do anything that you couldchange your system. They're going to measure
it, and if it's too low, if it's you know, the one
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in a million houses that doesn't haveany leakage, they'll stop. They'll tell
you, they'll say thanks, butno thanks, and they'll leave. So
you're not going to get charged fora system you don't need sealed. And
I recall as a home owner havingdone this, that you could actually see
the leakage. Yes, so yeah, so they'll they'll measure it to begin
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with, they'll tell you how muchit is. The equivalent square hole,
that's the one that I like totalk about. My house started with the
equivalent of a thirty square inch hole, so a six inch by five inch
hold all spread out through the ductwork, and we reduced down to two point
seven so just a little tiny holeout of the entire system. Well,
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I remember mine is a four tonunit and I was getting three tons of
air, so I it and Ithink I got it to three and seven
ace tons. I mean that's ahuge yeah. So well, and you're
paying for it either way, soyou might as well get it where you
want it to go, right,So how do you seal ductwork? So
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what we do is we block offall of the intended openings where you want
the year to go. We usea big foam block and shove it in
there. We protect the coil andthe heat exchanger in the system so we
don't get ceiling on it. Andwe'll cut a hole in the system and
we'll inject aerosolized ceiling through it.It won't coat the inside, it'll just
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go to the leaks and drop offat those areas and seal it up.
So takes I don't know, fortyfive minutes to an hour. They'll be
there for two or three hours toyou know, set everything up, do
it, clean everything back up,and make sure you're happy. But it's
a really simple process. Sure,now this a ceilant is this is there
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off gassing and tell me about thesafety of using this. So this cealent
is acrylic based. It's just likean interior paint, household paint. It
is no voc and it's inherently safe. I wouldn't recommend it, but you
could eat it if you need itto. Yeah. So, and you
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can do this in a day,right, oh yeah. So all of
our dealers they do both the supplyand return on your on your system.
That was the question I had wasthe return? Do they do the returns?
Is that equally important? I wouldsay the return is more and more
important. You talking about getting doyou get a dust and dirt and everything
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in the system? Well, howto get in there? It either falls
into you know, an open registeror it gets sucked into the return through
those leaks that you have in thebasement or the crawl space. That's the
biggest deal to me. Right,you're sucking an outdoor air places where you
don't want it to come from.How about all the efficiency and heat pumps
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and electric and all that does thatDoes that make duck leakage less important?
More important? Or because you're askingthe right questions everything it is more important.
So if you consider a gas furnace, it's still avering one hundred thousand
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btu. If you lose ten percentof that, okay, whatever, you're
still way over the load for yourhouse. A heat pump only provides thirty
six thousand to forty eight thousand btu. A leak there makes a bigger difference.
Ten thousand btu out of that istwenty five percent. So when a
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heat pump goes under load, rightthat it's asking for more heating than it
can require, or that it canserve can serve. It does electric resistancy,
and the least efficient way to heatyour house is electric resistency. It's
the blue light special. That's exactlyright. That's there's a run for the
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hills, the blue lights on energymodeling on this. Yeah, and if
you go from an eighty percent furnaceto a whatever standard heat pump, your
bill can go up one thousand dollarsan electricity use if you don't duck seal,
but if you do, you canend up with about the same bill.
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It's that big of the difference.So what's the payback on heaven the
duckworks sealed? You know what thesavings were getting. I'm seems like you
got all those statistics, you gotsomething on that. Yeah, so national
average prices around twenty five hundred dollars. And if you're in a house with
a heat pump, the paybacks twoto three years. If you're in a
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house with a furnace, the paybacksmore like five. But in any case,
it will outlast your system. Sothe seal it lasts so long and
it seals up your duck work foreverthat you know, when you replace,
or you get a heat pump later, or you change out your furnace with
another one. You don't have toduck seal again. It's still there.
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How big of a hole does thatseal? I mean, I mean it's
not gonna seal a hole the sizeof a fist, but you probably won't
have a hole the size of afist in duckwork. I'm just curious,
you know, is it just gapswhere the the pipes are just kind of
shoved together. Is that where theleakages? That's where most of the leakages.
Yet, especially on a crimped connection, right, every little ridge in
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there is a little leak. Soit'll seal up to five eights of an
inch wide, but you know itcould be two feet long, it'll still
still seal it up. Well.Yeah, The thing I like to talk
about though, is aero seal.You know, the technology is super cool
and really interesting and no one elsedoes it. But duct ceiling is a
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job itself, and aero seal isjust one tool in that tool deloped.
So when you call someone to comeout to do aero seal, they're going
to fix your duct work. They'renot just going to blow sealing and go
away. They're going to make sureyou get the most of your money.
And if there is a disconnection,if there's a hole to the size of
your fist, they're going to fixthat for you. Okay again, folks.
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The website is aero Seal. It'sa E. R O S E
A L dot com. And Zach, I have another question because I've been
asked via email by several people itsaid, Hey, how do I become
an aeroseeal contractor? Oh? Veryinteresting. So actually it's the same process
as getting a quote for your houseand go to the website and there should
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be a button this is connect withus, and we'd be happy to talk
to anyone that's interested in getting started. This is this is going to be
something that's probably required in the futurefor new building code and for utilities,
and it's better to get in nowif you can. And I know you've
been on the cutting edge on it, even looking at aeroseal for other parts
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of the building or the house,and someday we'll get into that. But
yeah, it's definitely sealing up ourhomes and making more energy efficient. As
things change and prices go up,are certainly going to be on the forefront.
So again it's aerowsealed dot com andZach, thanks for joining us today.
I appreciate it. Always enjoy ourtalks. Hey, thanks for having
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me. Happy holidays. Thank you, sir. Take care same to you
all right. Let me give youthe phone number you can jump on board
happy to talk about that or ifyou have other issues. We all have
issues in our house. You can. It's eight hundred and eight two three
eight two five five. Continuing on, You're at Home with Gary Sullivan.
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