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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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we're talking about your home and projects. We've talked a
little bit about cross bases. By the way, if you
are looking for something to do, not many of us

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are always seem to be plenty of things to do.
But if you have a collection of old paints, go
through those. I did it about a year and a
half ago and was quite honestly amazed. I had paints
that we didn't have the colors in our house anymore.
And there's a lot of great places that take paints.

(02:47):
Most of them just take acrylic or water base. Some
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They reblend, they ship them over sees. They definitely reuse
and that's always a wonderful idea helps people out. And

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also we don't screw up our landfills, So you can
check around in your county. Some counties or other places
that don't take oil based paint. They have hazards material pickups.
Usually check with your county or city and you'll get
that information. But get them out of your house. No
sense in keeping them all right, ed, welcome, How you

(03:32):
doing doing fine? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I have a house and I love the house everything
except for one thing. The only bathroom downstairs is the
master and I want to put a half bath on
the other end of the house. What is the chances
number one that there's a three inch line running from
the kitchen area and where the through the main line

(04:03):
that's on the other end of the house.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
That depends on how big the house, but probably, you know,
I don't know, probably not usually there's one. But you
get into a house that's, you know, three thousand and
four thousand square feet, there could be one on both sides.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, okay, are they a way to tell what size
the line you have run through? Sure?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Sure? I mean, do you have a basement underneath it
or not?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
No, it's a slab floor.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's a slab floor. Okay. So there are pipe detection
devices where you can check that out. You can have
cameras that can run down and see where they go.
So there's ways to certainly detect and look for a
waistline for sure. Did you say you built a house.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
No, I did not build that.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, right.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I've talked to plumbers in the area, and some plumbing
company says, anything we put in the slab, we put
at least a three inch. Others says, why would you
spend the extra money put a three inch?

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, they don't know either. You got Yeah, you've got
to investigate it. There's there's no flat answer, you know,
really on a bigger house, yeah you might, but there's
no flat answer. Somebody's got to get in there and
scope those pipes and see where they are. Unless you
got an old drawing or something, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
No, I have nothing. Yeah, okay, So just any plumbing
company because they should be able.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, just call them and say, I just want to see,
you know, if I have a three inch line, I
want to add a bathroom on the other side of
the house, or get a quote on how to do it,
and they'll have to scope it to do that anyway.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Okay, Now I can put it on the exterior wall
and then I could run it out right there, run
it around my house. And tie into the clean out
on the other end of the house. Do you think
that would be a feasible thing? Will I get enough
water flow to keep the pipes clean? Would you have

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to happen?

Speaker 1 (06:18):
You know, I I hate to keep giving you a
cheap answer, ed, but I think it's really something you
got to You gotta be on site to look to
see what your best options are. There may be an option.
I mean there's even up flush toilets. I don't know
the size. Those are usually smaller pipes, and I don't
know if they could be up flushed and connect somewhere,

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you know, on the upper floors. I mean, I I
just don't know. You just got to see how the
layout is, to see what the best option for you
is and in terms of price, and you know what's
going to be involved.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I hope you get what you're looking for. And there's
always a way. It's just a question of how much
money is it going to cost? Right, there's always a way,
But you're going to have to get somebody out there
really look at the environment, look and see what you're
trying to do and where you're trying to do it.
At that's going to be the key. All right, let's
go to Mike. Mike, Welcome morning, Gary.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
I got a question and I'll make it quick because
I'm in a bad area. Might drop off. Okay, I've
got a gamble roof storage building, like you see everybody
has these. It looks like it's like T one to
eleven on the outside or RB and B. It's treated.
The problem I'm running into is about the bottom foot
I'm getting splashed back from when the rain comes off
the roof and most of the finish is gone. I

(07:40):
was going to restain it this year. I'm just not
going to get to it. Would it be okay if
I sprayed like Thompson's water seal or something on the
bottom couple feet of it, just to help protect it
till I get to it next year.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I mean it would be. It would be helpful.
You know, It's not going to be as protective as paint,
but it's going to be helpful. All So, if it
is a tea at one eleven siding, that bottom cut,
which is close to the ground, that is probably going
to be a good part of the problem. So if

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you get a chance to get your hands underneath that
where that cut is the base cut, and see if
it's you know, getting soft or crumbling, or you know,
getting some calwking on the bottom of that, or just
a brush of paint. That would be really more helpful
than the Thompson's water seal. But to answer your question,

(08:32):
would it be helpful yes? Would it be a long
time cure? Noe? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I just want to get through the winner to help
preserve it. And it's it's treated so it's not rotting
or delaminating or anything like that. I just figured, you know,
it's a really well made building. Normally those don't have
the treated plywood and this one does, so I just
want to keep it nice. So I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Thank you. All right, you're quite welcome. Thank you. Bye bye.
Do remember on pressure tree, I can tell you was
trying not to get dumped by where he was driving.
One of the things to remember, too, is what are
you protecting that from? It sounded to me like, you know,
protecting it from the water and the splash. And if
it's pretty pressure treated plywood, that's gonna be pretty resistant

(09:16):
to water. Now, you know, if it's starting to dilaminate
the plywood, that's another ball game. Nothing's going to really
help you there. But if it's still intact and it's
pretty waterproof as all as it's ground contact pressure treated wood,
because they make a ground contact and a non ground contact,
that makes a really big date deal. Let me give

(09:37):
you this advice. We try to learn something out of
every situation. Always, always buy ground contact pressure treated wood. Always.
And my reason is this. If you put a deck
up and it's on a second story, it's not in
ground contact right right, But guess what leaves accumulate on

(09:59):
this decks. It rains, dust and dirt. Get on those decks,
it rains. It's gonna have the same functions as ground contact.
The price might be luring you in a little bit,
but get ground contact pressure treated. Would I promise you
down the road you'll be glad you did. All Right,
we're gonna take a little break, Joe, you will be

(10:21):
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been to the show. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Yeah, hey, I've just had a question about a bathroom
vent fan. Whether the best way to vent that. It
seems like a lot of them go out into the
soft the vented soft, yeah, as opposed to going up
through the roof.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
What's your yeah, I prefer the roof. I mean, they
say you can do it either way. Here's and you know,
the biggest thing is don't vent it in the attic.
But I've even seen a lot of them vented in
the attic if it's a really really big, spacious attic
and it's properly vented. But that's not always a good
idea because when warm air hits cold air, you create

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condensation and it rains in your attic and you can
have mold. The bad part about going out to soffits
is if you have a well vented attic, U there's
a couple of things that's going to happen. One is
the warm air is going to go out of the
side through the soft and it's gonna hit cold air

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in the wintertime, and that that those soft e vents
are always kind of they're they're bringing air into the attic.
And because if it's vented at the top, so there's
a little bit of suction that's kind of pulling that
steamy air. It's pushing it outside and it's pulling it inside.

(15:32):
It's obviously diluted. But you know, it's acceptable that way,
but I'm not a fan of it.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
Okay, A proper way would probably be going higher above
the sofets, if there's a gable side or something, doesn't
necessarily go through the roof and go through the side
wall or up through the roof.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Okay, yeah, I think in this case, i'd have to
go through the roofs, which obviously made a proper proper
hood there, but right, and then use an insulated pipe
going up from the fan to the roof so it
doesn't condensate in your attic on its way up there.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Or yeah. Yeah, it depends how far you're going, and
also the CFM of the fans, so you know, do
you have enough drawl to get it all the way
up there? That's going to be on the fan based
on you know, in the instructions on you know, installation
and again yeah, you know, it may be once you

(16:31):
find out what you got to do going up that
you will decide to go to the sofa. That's why
I wanted to say we're acceptable both ways. Ideally it'd
be up and out, but you know, a lot depends
on the fan too.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Yeah, and I'm looking at about three to four feet.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I have a couple of them.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I want to do that ain't bad at all. Yeah, no,
that's a twenty foot peak. That's a different ball game.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
Yeah no, no, it's it's down there. I think that
for this on his four.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Feet, okay, you'd be all right there. Anything under it
you're usually good at.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Yeah. And I had another quick question on a hood
stove top hood, which is essentially kind of doing the
same thing. But how far do you think that they
would normally push the air? Those fans are not super strong.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, I don't know. How far do you got to go.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
Up in that case, may have to be five feet
or something.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I think you'd still be good at that. A rule
of thumb on a lot of that, even for dryers,
is eight feet. And then I get calls, you know
where somebody's got something going twenty three feet and yeah,
you know, it just can't remove that heat without compensation occurring.
And then if you're running it horizontally, you know, you

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start having dips and you start having moisture build up.
And really, I might be wrong, but I think an
elbow is equivalent to two feet. So if you're gonna
that sounds about right. You figure that in there too.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well thanks, I appreciate that, all right,
I do use I do use the wet and forget product,
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Speaker 1 (18:20):
That really works super Which one do you use? The exterior?

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yeah, the exterior on the side of the house used
to be I was always pressure washing the house, and boy,
that works like magic.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah. I cut my son up there with on a
ladder with a pressure washer doing his house, Like, what
are you doing? That's not safe? And he's like, well, ho,
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Speaker 6 (18:43):
Me, haven't you listen?

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Speaker 6 (22:40):
Good morning, Gary.

Speaker 8 (22:41):
How you doing today?

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Doing fine? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Hey.

Speaker 8 (22:45):
I was tuning around and I heard you talking about mold,
and I got to admit I made a mistake. A
couple of years ago. I installed an exhaust van in
my bathroom and I just let it event into the attic.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I didn't do it correctly.

Speaker 8 (23:02):
I just assumed that maybe the ridge vent and the
gable event would be enough to vent it.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Right.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
Well, now I got mold on that side above the shower,
and it's all over the sheeting. I don't know if
it was solely the exhaust fan that did it all,
because we put a roof on a new roof on
during basically a pretty good rain, and I didn't know
if the rain, if the moisture had stuck around, lingered

(23:31):
around long enough to cause the mold as it was raining,
because it did get wet, the new construction got wet.
So it was just my question, now that I have
the problem, what can I do? Beach water kills or let's.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Talk about that good questions too, And you know, trying
to find out where that cause was is kind of important.
So you put the roof on during construction? How long
ago was that where that got wet from the rain?

Speaker 8 (24:00):
The sheeting that is severely molded it, it was actually
the last one on the ground, so it was wet
when we installed it. It's probably been three.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Years, okay, And it has it grown the mold or
you you don't know. You're not up there all the time,
but I would.

Speaker 8 (24:22):
Say I would say, yes, it's been I noticed it
about a year ago. I discontinued using my exhaust span
until I vent.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
It correctly, okay.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
And I was just up there looking the other day
and it's just just as bad. It's not any worse,
but it's still.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
There, okay, Okay, all right, so yeah, you're not using
the fan now, so that's good, and so learning a
little bit about mold. So what happens, obviously is organic
material would mold spores everywhere, and the secret sauce is moisture,

(24:57):
whether from the fan or from the roof. My guess
is may have started with the you know, ground moisture
on the plywood, and then you just kept feeding it
with the moisture from the from the fan, you know,
I mean, it was already go. It's a colony, it's living,
and it multiplies, it reproduces. So when you take water

(25:21):
out of the equation, it's still there. It goes dormant,
and then your mold count is high in the air. Okay,
So that's just kind of how that works. Now, bleach
will make you feel good because it'll bleach that mold out.
It'll be harder to see, but it doesn't totally kill

(25:42):
the mold. And the mold, remember, it's living. The mold
knows it's being attacked when bleach is being applied to it.
So what it does is it shoots out all these spores,
usually right in your face. Yeah, so you know, people

(26:03):
get sick from that, so you got to use precautions.
And my point being is there's a lot of wonderful
products out there. Bleach is not one of them. And
how much you know, there's a rule of thumb. You can,
you know, pay attention to this or not pay attention
to it. But the recommendation for a lot of home

(26:24):
products is you can attack mold as a homeowner up
to about ten square feet. After that, leave it to
a pro. That's your decision. But there's products out there.
You hear me talk about wet and forget. I'm going
to give you a couple of names of products. Wet
and forget is you don't use their exterior one, you

(26:47):
don't use their bathroom and shower. They have one called
disinfectant and Mold Eliminated and that is simply sprayed on
and it does kill the mold. Sports it's a total
kill and the stain stays there, but it's a total kill.
The mold will be gone. Uh. There's one called conchrobium. Uh.

(27:13):
Con Chrobium is sprayed and with that one, I believe
you have to scrub the stain away. They recommend you
scrub it. They also make one which is a a
an aerosol. So if it's an area you can't get
to you can actually blow an aerosol back there and
it will also kill it. So Conchrobium Wet and Forget.

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You might go to both their websites, read up a
little bit on and there's a couple other brands out there.
If you want to paint it with kills, that's fine.
You know, after you're done, that'll that will set that
stain in that wood, it'll cover that stain up and
life will be grand. So yeah, that's kind of just

(27:59):
my store on it. So what do you think.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
Well, I like it, I'm gonna search that product you
mentioned and I'll probably kills it. And it's down where
I can't you know, quite reach it. So you know, well,
the majority of it is it's basically all over. But
I made the mistake Gary, I assumed the uh my
Ridge event and my Gable event would be.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Enough to Yeah, yeah, sometimes it is, you know. Like I,
like I said, I I built the house I'm in,
and I went up in the attic about a year
after I was there, and they had the uh the
vent hose tied to truss. But I got a really

(28:41):
steep roof and big ridgemen and all that, and there
was no damage at all. I still vented it out properly,
but it was fine. But it depends on the size.
It depends on how good of an insulation. You heard
the other guy call and he was talking about vtting
it through the soft and not that fine sometimes. But

(29:01):
if you got a little squatty attic and it's not
vented it very well, it doesn't work very well. I
mean it pulls it right back in. So you know,
easily curious.

Speaker 8 (29:12):
Yep, definitely. So I appreciate your time and your information.
You're awesome. I love listening to the show. And thank
you again for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
You're quite welcome, Brandon, call anytime. Thank you. Take care
all right? Yeah, you would think when you I mean,
I get where he's coming from you with all the
you know, the ridge VN and the intake vents and everything,
but it's really about how much air we're trying to move.
And I'll bet you, I'm I'm betting on what happened

(29:45):
there is if he had the bottom part of that
sheeting sitting on the ground and then it was raining
when it was installed, that stuff was sopping wet at
the house was then closed up, and I bet the
mold was growing on there. They had a pretty good
colony of it. And then with that vent pipe blowing

(30:07):
on that wall, it was just a source. You know,
we're gaining materials the food source, but the water activates everything.
I mean, that's what starts the issue. That's why we're
always talking about water. That's why I use the phrase
all the time. Water is your home's number one enemy.
What's it do? It causes wood rot, softwood to attract insects,

(30:33):
and mold loves it. That's how mother nature works. The
spores or gaining material, leaves and sticks and all that
in the woods, It rains and mold breaks down all
the debris that we find in forced in woods, in
our lawn in our landscaping. That's how mother nature cleans itself. Unfortunately,

(30:54):
we don't necessarily need any help with that in our homes.
So that's why we're always ceiling things, calking things, painting things,
keeping things as dry as possible, because you know, all
that would needs water to grow, and then when we
cut it and we use it for housing, it needs

(31:15):
water to break things down. So's that's the dilemma we're
in all the time. All right, let me give you
the phone number. Feel free to join us as we
chat about your home and home projects. And have you
really started focusing? I saw that I got this post

(31:36):
office singlee tells you what's coming in a mail? And
my energy bill is coming today? And what have you
done every time you open? And I know we all grumble,
of course we do, but what have you done about it?
What have you done about it? We're going to talk
about foam insulation in the next hour. That's one thing

(31:57):
you can do, and what a great way to tighten
up your home. And then of course as we tighten
up our homes, then we gotta what, yeah, ventilate our home.
So it's it's a little bit of a dilemma too,
but just don't complain about it. Start figuring out what
we can do about in terms of saving energy and
saving some bucks. Will continue eight hundred eighty two three

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Speaker 1 (35:04):
All right, back at it. We go at home with
Gary Salvin and when we had Bruce Iako on from Jaws,
we were talking about some of the different cleaners and
usually between now and the end of the year, I
do weekly home cleaning tips and usually feature one of
his products, but we're kind of starting that period of

(35:29):
time off, so I do want to give a home
cleaning tip, and it does kind of tie into the
Jaws products too, and that is when you're cleaning, prevent
cross contamination and one of the things Jaws has done.
We don't hardly ever talk about this, but each product

(35:50):
is color match. Glass cleaner is blue heart I'm doing
this my memory, hardwood floor cleaner is green, kitchen to
greas er is yellow, and so they all have different colors.
And with that also come some microfiber towels to use.

(36:11):
That helps in that whole streak free cleaning methodology. Obviously,
you know you wouldn't want to use the Jaws granite
cleaner with the same microfiber cloth you just use for
the toilet cleaning, right, and they haven't color coordinated, so

(36:31):
you know which cloth has been used and when and
wear and I think that's very, very helpful, So I
wanted to pass that along. No matter what you're using,
maybe take that idea too. You can get the microfiber towels,
of course it jawscleans dot Com, but maybe even starting
your own little system with that pretty good idea. All right,

(36:56):
we're talking a little home improvement as we do each
and every weekend. If you'd like to grab a line,
please feel free to go ahead and do just that.
Let's go to Dennis. Dennis, welcome aboard.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yes, yes, I was asking. I got a new furnace
put on in the summer with the air conditioning, and
they put that humidifier on, you know, for the winner. Now,
just wanting what could that setting b at? It has
like one, two, three for light, four or five six
for normal and seven eight nine for heavy. Now this

(37:37):
is in the basement, okay, attached there, and I'm just
wondering what numbers should it be put out?

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, that'll be in your instruction book that I don't know,
but I can give you some good ideas. So this
is a humidifire.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (37:54):
This is a humidifier, correct, humidifier branding moisture into the
into the house. So my question to you right now
is what is the humidity level in your home?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Ah? God, I don't know that I turn Okay, when
I turned I turned the dial the other day and
it's up to thirty two.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
But not all bad this time of year. You would
probably want to have in the wintertime. The ideal humidity
in the wintertime until it gets down the near zero
is thirty five percent. So you're right in the ball game.
You're right in the ball game.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I had I had to heat on already, but not.
You know, it's not really that cold out right stuff.
And up in Cleveland. I'm up in Cleveland here. Yeah,
so I'm just wondering, you know they put it in there.
I don't they left me a book that or not.
But I know they had a turned off and the
fans not on on that humidifire or anything. It's an
alpine I think.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah. Well, the most thing is just keeping an I
on your humidity inside your home. That's very important. Folks,
with or without a humidifier, your range in the winter time,
like I said, when it's freezing outside thirty two degrees,
the good humidity is thirty five percent, and then as
it climbs up, you should try to always keep it

(39:20):
below fifty five. Even in the summertime when the humidifiers
turned off and maybe you're running it, do humidifier you
want it around fifty five percent. If it drops down
to zero, maybe you want it around twenty five percent,
or your windows are going to be sweating. So when
you go out and get yourself and you know, ten bucks,

(39:40):
it's it's it's got a little humidity gauge, put it
in your living quarters and then you can kind of
function on. You know, you want light, you want normal.
Of all of a sudden you run, you know, twenty
percent humidity and it's you know, forty degrees outside. You
got to bring that humidity up. You'd probably want a
heavy dose of it at that point and then move

(40:02):
it back to normal. You'll be able to kind of
calculate and kind of get a rhythm with it.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Okay, I see now the humidifier is a dehumanifier too.
I'm sure probably right. I don't know that, okay, all right,
because I see the hose is coming off, so.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, the hose is going to be So the way
that works, if they didn't explain to you, is you
have a connection to a copper line or a plumbing pipe,
which is the source of moisture, and it's got a
little quarter inch od soft copper pipe that comes into
the top of the humidifire that's dripping water over a

(40:42):
probably a ten inch pad, and there's a selenoid in
there that's calling for the water. And then that rubber
hose that goes down in a pipeline and maybe into
a floor drain or something that is just catching the
access water that goes over that pad.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Okay, all right. I never had one on my old
furnessance because it was originally the house probably fifty years
old or something like that. I never had. Now this time,
I got the humid if on and I had it
on the other day and it seemed like it felt
a little bit. You can get the static when you
touch something, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Right right, Well, they're great, you know, they're great. I've
had for twenty six years, and you got to change
that pad every year otherwise it'll calcify and it won't
hold the water. You'll quickly notice it's not working.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Okay, all right, Yeah, it says somebody pretest on it
too or something.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Okay, well that button probably has that where it can
detect that and see how much filtration you have.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, good, good, okay, yeah, the human if right now,
if I should put the up on the second floor,
I would.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I put it in my living quarters. Your basement's always
going to be more humid than any other room. Heavy
damp air always settles, so I would definitely.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I got windows down there and I and uh, it's
it's a ranch, so it's everything's down the basement.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Of all right, Yeah, put up your living quarter will
be good. That's where you want it.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
All right, Well, well, thank you very much. I really
appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
You're quite welcome. Thank you much. All Right, we got
a whole another hour to go, so I wanted who
encourage you to give us a call and we can
talk about your home project, maintenance or repair. It's eight
hundred eight two three eight two five five. Line them
up and Jeanette welcome.

Speaker 9 (42:28):
Oh hello, hello, I'm so glad you got my call.
This is kind of a stupid little thing that happened
while I was cooking and I put a han I
was frying lasagnia. Yeah, I hate reheating bazania, and I

(42:51):
put it in the frying pan, and of course the
frying pin did not come with the cover, so I
just grabbed another cover and I put it on, and
it's suction itself on. I couldn't get it off. I said, well,
what and cool down, I'll be able to get it off.
I need a gorilla to get this thing off. And
I don't know if I hate to throw the pan away,

(43:14):
and I know it's not a home project.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Well, is that a plastic lid you put on it?
Is that a plastic lid?

Speaker 9 (43:20):
Uh? No, it's a it's an aluminum aluminum lid that
I put on. It's going to dome to talk. But
I put it on, and I put it inside the
sides of the pan, you know, because I said, oh,
this is really oh.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Good.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I don't know. I don't know. I think what I
would do, Jeanette, I don't know. Nobody's ever asked me
that question. I never had the problem. Why don't you
take the the uh, the pan with the lid on it,
and maybe fill the sync up with some warm, warm,
maybe even hot water, and let that water run over

(43:59):
it and see if we can get some movement, expansion
contraction maybe if nothing is still real tight, and take
that pan out and stick it in the freezer and
then that'll get real cold and see if we can
and because that will expand and contract, and see if
that lid doesn't come off. Then all right, you can

(44:19):
give us a call. We got a spot for you.
It's eight hundred eighty two three, eight two five five
at home with Gary Sullivan.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
It's the weekend and you have fixed questions. Give Gary
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