Gary Sullivan 11/15/2025 Hour 4

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, best time of the day I get to

(00:01):
say good afternoon, and well, welcome now our number four
at home with Garry Sullivan. As we take your calls
regarding your home projects, feel free to jump on board.
It's eight hundred eighty two three eight two five five.
As I am during the break kind of watching the
end of our leaf season. You know, it's not raining

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leaves where I am, and there's a little trickle here
and there, but a good reminder of the leaves have
fallen and you've just ignored it. And I'm talking about
on the roof in the gutters. Don't don't you're There's
a couple of things I want you to really kind
of tune into as we kind of go over the

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next month or so, and that is the gutters, the
down spouts, and water in general. Make sure that water
is captured from the roof and moved away six feet
from your foundation. How that's done depends on your house,

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but it starts with a good guttering system. And there's
just so many bad things that can happen without the
gutters being clean and without them being properly fastened and
not having the proper slope on them, because that water
will then spill out over the front of the gutter

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or behind the gutter, which will do multiple things. It'll
cause erosion around the foundation, It'll let water into the
cross base or basement. It'll rot the facia or the softs,
and that obviously can all become expensive. That's how wildlife

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gets inside our attics. In a lot of cases, that
would get soft and rotted. I found the down spout
at my home the other day that just didn't line
up with the pipe that went underground. It was lined
up maybe seventy percent of the way, but not all
of it, which means that water would pour right on
the foundation and it would be excessive and it has

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a potential to cause a problem. The reason I'm talking
about that right now is because if you live in
an area where most of the leaves have fallen, there's
probably quite a few of them that have collected in
your gutter, and you're probably unless you're really cueued into

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home maintenance or you have gutter protection devices on the gutters,
you probably just ignored it, not even thinking about it.
So I'm here to be that guy. So don't ignore it.
If you if you got to get it cleaned out,
you were. Somebody's got to get it cleaned out and

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do so. Don't wait if you'd like to get the
gutter brush that slides right in. They got a sale
going on. The coat is Gary thirty and it ends
on the twenty fourth. It's their fall clearance. Is the
best pressure're going to get on it? Do the little
house for a couple hundred bucks. All right, let's go
to Christina. Christina welcome.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes, I have a patio chair and I think it's
made out of aluminum. And the leg broke off and
I put some you put some JB. Well held on
it and it held for a little while and my
but but not for long. My question is is do
I need to get that uh welded? And if I do,

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what kind of welder do I need?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Umm? Yeah, I mean something like that is going to
be better than you know, any type of glue, because
is it too? I mean is it square? Is it round?
And how thick is.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
No, it's kind of a sort of a flat kind
of leg. It's just kind of flat.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, but where where it connects to the next piece
it's Is it hollow in the center?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
No, it's solid solid.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
What kind of JB weld product did you use Did
you use their epoxy?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I knew you were going to ask me that. Well,
my husband was one that actually fixed it, so I'm
not really sure.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
We're kind of use.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
We usually just get the regular regular stuff, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think if I was going to try it, And
there's also to answer your question, you might check with
some people that do small engine repair, you know, lawnmowers
and things like that, they very well may have the
ability to weld that for you. I I don't even

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know about welding and aluminum, I you know, steel, Yes,
I'm but I would check like a small engine repair
and see if they have something that they can help
you with. If you want to try and a POxy
and it's solid, there's a product out called a PC

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seven and it's a resinant, a hardener, and it's like
a paste and I think JB Weld has kind of
a paste type of POxy too. You need something that's
got some guts to it. Okay, even though it's it's

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it's flush, it's got to be clean, it's got to
be smooth. And then like a PC seven or a
JB Weld a POxy it's almost like about the consistency
of playto okay, and then hardens where you can even
drill it. So it definitely hardens then. But if you

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used a regular liquid, my guess is that's probably why
it failed. It probably wasn't strong enough.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, probably not.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, And then I was going.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
To ask you if you knew of a product that
we could try before we.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Had to go to a welder.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, just call around see how much they would cost.
You might be surprised. That may not be that much.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's finding one though.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
As the thing, Yeah, whenever I needed something welded, there
was a little lawnmower shop not far from my house.
I'd bring it up there and they would weld it
and it you know, I can't remember the exact price,
but you know I had you know, builds in a
wallet to take care of it. So it wasn't that expensive.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, well, thank you for that suggestion, because I would
have never thought of it. That's the reason, that's the
reason why we call you.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
All right, Well, call any time. You're quite welcome. Speaking
of you know, some of the products that are out
there in the adhesive line, there's some there's some really
good products out there, but all adhesives. And I've been
in the hardware industry slash home improvement for my whole life,

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and after a while, especially glues and adhesives, I think
if they got something unique and it's got a nice
little story to tell about the adhesive, then everybody, everybody's
brain goes that'll do everything, and not so much they

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really don't. There's a lot of adhesives that are very different,
and there's different adhesives for different things. And JB. Welld
is a gorilla glue is a great one. JB. Well
those are brand names, and you know, even though like

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gorilla glue, and I think JB. Weld started out with
one product and advertised it and got a great name,
and it is a great glue, but it's it's it's
not it's it's maybe an all purpose glue. That's usually
where it starts. Then they get into specific glues, and
that's that's where the good stuff is when it's really

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featured for a particular job. I mentioned the PC seven
quite us. I forget even who the manufacturer that is.
I've used that numerous times. It's almost like a real
thick paste with a resinant, a hardener, a true epoxy,
and that stuff is just work great. I've used it

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on all kinds of things. It's phenomenal in fact. And
I've used the the JB well to POxy where it's
almost like a little clay bird. Half of it resent,
half of a hardened equal parts. Mesh it together and
put that putty in there and push down on a
clamp it and manutes like steel. All right, we'll take

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a break. We'll come back and get your questions answered.
It's eight hundred eighty two three eight two five five
by the way, at the bottom of the hour. Yep,
we're gonna have Nate in from USA Insulation. And why
why in the world have you not looked into that.
There's so many projects that are complicated in homes. This

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one is a no brainer. You know, homes walls weren't
insulated prior to nineteen seventy six seventy seven. And if
you live in one of those older homes and you've
never done anything about it, I don't have to tell
you you're paying through the nose on energy. We can end

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that today and the money will probably be balanced out
between what's not going The energy company would go to
USA insallation for a limited time and then you reap
the rewards. All right, that's uh, that's what we'll do
at the bottom of the air. But in the meantime
your calls. You're at home with Gary Salvan right here

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in fifty five care see the talk station? All right?
Back at it, we go at home with Gary salvn.
You know an energy waster, it's it's it's small, but
I just noticed it in my house the other day.
I don't like cow is all the chargers that just
stay plugged in. I've looked that up, Danny. You you

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ever looked at up and see how much they draw?
I don't even know, but I know I haven't. I've
read many many times that they're they're they're a big waste.
And during one of the breaks I saw there was
there was a power strip and I have four or
five chargers plugged in. It's like that's not good. So

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that those are little things that can add up the
big things too. It's not just all insulation and ventilation.
Another thing this time of year, I was talking about
water being a problem. We're talking about saving saving energy.

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Get if he gets some time. We're always talking about
getting some time. But it's our homes are the biggest
investment we'll make. And I'm not a big fan of
jumping up and climbing in the attic, but if you
can do it yourself, if you can't get a handyman
up there. When that fella called earlier and was talking

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about mold that he had found on the inside of
the attic on the wall, realize the the ventilation fan
was vented in the attic. Sometimes when you get in
these areas, you know where you could live in a
house twenty years and never going in an attic. You

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could live in a home where you can't get into
an attic. You can live in a home where you
have the air handler you gotta get up there and
change the filter in the attic. I mean, there's all kinds,
but a lot of times, I think it's safe to
say most homeowners aren't going to get up in the attic,
not going to look around in the attic, but get
somebody up there or a service person maybe to look

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and see what's going on in the attic, because there's
a couple of things. Number One, do you have enough
insulation in the attic? We were talking about USA insulation
going to be on here in about ten minutes and
talking a little bit about insulating. But if you don't
have foam insulation, you're ink maybe got fiberglass insulation, and

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maybe it's not uniformly coating the floor of the attic.
That's problematic. You're probably not getting the energy savings you
should have. And also if you look in the attic
and you have soft e vents and your home is ventilated,
and don't think your home is ventilated just because they

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put some vents on your roof, because it's a system,
and the system starts at the bottom on the soffit
under the gutters. You see those screens, you see those louvers,
Maybe that's bringing air into the attic. That's forcing air
out of the attic because hot air rises and it

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can't rise and move unless you're bringing air in, and
those soffits bring the air in and pushes the warm
air out. Warm air could be forty degrees, it could
be one hundred and forty degrees, depends what the temperature
is outside. It's called convection. And if you can lower
or you can keep that attic at a dec reasonable

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temperature in the summertime, if you can get it. You know,
ten degrees warmer than the outside air. You're in business,
and if it's warm in the attic and it's freezing
cold outside, you want to move that damp, wet air
out so it's still cooler. It's convection still works. Now,

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if those louvers down or venting softed venting I said,
louvers or screens, or sometimes there's round plugs with loovers
in it. If those are clogged because somebody a long
time ago didn't know what they were doing. When they're
insulating and they insulated over those, you don't have any insulation,

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or you don't have any ventilation in your attic, and
then your insulation has got more to do and it
probably not going to get the job done for you.
Ventilation and insulation you need them both. And you get
somebody up in the attic, they look and maybe you
got baffles and those soffits are protected from insulation from
covering them up. Wonderful, wonderful. Maybe you can move one

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of those baffles away. Maybe somebody painted over those soft
e vents. Maybe there's been spider webs in there and
it's clogging up the ports. I don't know, but if
they're clogged or blocked, you don't have adequate ventilation period.
And then also look for other things like he found mold.

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I'm not saying you've got mold, but if you're not
up there, how do you know you don't have mold.
Underside are roofs, that's a place you'll find mold. Occasionally
you might find venting. That's a venting hose or pipe
that's just laying on top of insulation. That's horrible. That
insulation will be wet, it'll be molding. Maybe you see

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some wild life has lived in the attic. That's not healthy.
That's soiled insulation that should be And again, if you
never go up there, I get it out of side,
out of mind. But if you get into exploring that
sometimes not all the time, but sometimes you're going to

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find some issues up there that really should be addressed.
And one of the things I've thought about doing, maybe
you have one of these weather stations where it says
indoor humidity, outdoor humidity, indoor temperature, outdoor temperature, and you
got these old weather station box that sits outside in

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the panel inside your house. I've recommended from people when
they don't know really what their temperatures and where their
humidity is. Is to get one of those, and quite honestly,
maybe you put one in the basement and one in
the attic. It will enlighten you of how hot that

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attic is, and if that ventilation is working properly in
the winter, how humid that is. It should be as
dry as it is outside. But if it's you know,
fifty percent humidity in that attic and it's twenty degrees outside,
you very well have condensation, and you very well have

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some moisture which will eventually get you to have some mold.
So something to check. Get somebody in that attic and
take a look around to see what's going on there.
All right, Danny, I can hear you loud and clear,
And so anyway, we're going to have Nate on from
USA and Slation. We're going to talk about that a

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little bit further. In the meantime, we got Randy Randy welcome.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Hey, thanks Garry Met. I have some doors, exterior doors
that we put new weather stripping in, but I'm still
seeing gaps all the way around, and I'm just hereious.
Is that an adjustment that needs to be made to
the hinges? Or how do you seal that off?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well, let me ask you, this is the door sag
at all? In other words, is the gap at the
top and then the bottom or is it just a
gap straight down and it's a quarter inch?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
It's a gap straight down on the long side of
the door, you know, opposite of the hinges and really
at the top and bottom. But it doesn't it's probably
closer to an eighth than it is.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
A quarter Okay, okay, So what type of weather strip
light through it? Yeah, well we got to correct that.
There's ways to correct it. It's you can you can
try tightening the hinges, but probably not. It's probably just
something is either moved or that door is undersized for
for whatever reason, I don't know. But you can try

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tightening hinges, but I don't think that's going to be
the problem. What type of weather stripping did you use
on there?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
It's the ones I got from home depot that was
the premium. I want to say it's like a vinyl
you know, not it's it's squishy like foam, but it
has a little bit of texture, a little bit of
texture to it. Is I think it's probably a vinyl one.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Okay, So is there. Is it a self stick or
is it on a rigid frame.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Or no, sir, it's on a rigid frame kind of
like a wiper blade hat. Okay, that goes into the slot.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Okay, so it is does it go on the doors?
It go on the jam the jam okay, and then
your door would close on that. So it sounds to me,
could we build that out or does it sit in
a little track.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
It's it's in a track, so we.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Can't build out that weather stripping. Does it come with
a bigger So it really wasn't a it wasn't made
for that branded door, right, it's a universal weather stripping.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
That's correct, Yes? Or yeah? And I tried putting an
adhesive lawn on top of it. Yeah, it didn't last
very long. It just kind of peeled off.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, So I think, you know, I don't have a
quick answer for you. However, you know, we got to
work on something I don't I don't think that it's
the proper size weather stripping. There's some that are a

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little thicker. Now, I don't know if it's the same
tracking that can fit in on the inside where the
hinges are on the door is usually the manufacturer name
of the door itself. Okaya might even have a model
number on quite honestly, I can't remember, but I know
it's got the manufacture plate on there, and i'd go

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to their website not try and get one that is
not a universal one. And it probably comes in different
sizes too. That that little seal I know comes in
different thicknesses in a lot of cases, as does all
the stick on stuff and everything else. I think that's
the only way you're going to solve the problem. I

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don't think it's the hinges. I don't think that the
door would be undersized for that. I think we just
got the wrong weather stripping, okay.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
And then along those lines on the hinges, I've got
a couple that I've tried putting little shavings of wood
where the screws won't bite. Is there any other product
or tip you have for getting screws to bite?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yep, there's a thing you'll find in almost every hardware store,
even THO. If it has a name, I'm sure it does.
I don't know what it's called though. It's a little
strip of aluminum and I'm talking little. Maybe it's an
inch and a half long and maybe three aces of
an inch wide, and it's got little teeth on it.

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And you take that little strip and you fold it
in half and you insert it into the hole and
you run your screw into there, and it expands and
those teeth bite on the inside of the wood. That's
option one. Option two, take a toothpick, break it in
a couple pieces, and put a little wood glue in

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the hole and stick those toothpicks in there, wait till
it dries, and run the screw in that. And the
third option is really cool. If you get a wood
golf tee and they're tapered, and take a hammer and
just kind of tap it in gingerly. Take a real

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flat maybe like a hack salt blade, and just cut
that off flush, and then drill a pilot hole in there.
I forgot to tell you to put glue in there
when you put the golf tea in there, cut it flush,
drill a little pilot hole in there, and run your
screw into that. Any of those three will work.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Ah okay, all right, all right, great washer, appreciate the help.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
All right, Randy, thanks, take care, bye bye. All right,
we'll take a little break and then we'll talk to
our friend Nate from USA Insulation, and we'll continue our
talk about saving money and how in the world are
there still homes without insulation in the walls? You're paying
way too much, so we'll correct that problem for you.

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That's next at home with Gary Salvin right here on
fifty five care see the talk station. All right, well,
it's time to protect our home from cold weather. In
the last week or two, we've certainly had some changes
take place, and when the weather changes, we bring in
our friend Nate Berg just in he is with USA Insallation. Nate,

(24:03):
how in the world are you doing well?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Gary?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Are you doing doing fine? Boy? I was talking about
your product, USA Insulation about an hour ago, and I
was telling people, I just don't understand if there's ever
a no brainer project for a home prior to having

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that home, you know, if the home was built prior
to like nineteen seventy six, you're you're just you're burning money.
You're just I don't know how you do that. And
you got the answer for that, and you've been doing
it for a long time.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Right the hour and our fortieth year this year.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Holy cow, and they're still homes.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, absolutely, I guess.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
You can find some problems that are newer homes that
are improperly insulated in the walls too though.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Right right, Yeah, and you know, if it's fairly newer
within the last twenty years, odds are you know, the
attic needs updated. So we definitely recommend that and take
a look up there. And you know some of those
homes need the walls or insulate as well too. But yeah,
we've then we do crawl spaces basements, so we do

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all types of insulation.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, I was talking about joist pockets again today because
that's a big money waster and a lot of homes
and you guys can do just that project correct.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Correct, And we have a spray pome for that, and
so we can air seal around the perimeter, you know,
the crawl space or basement and that does make a
nice improvement.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
So this is interesting because this is something we haven't
talked about. We'll get back to all the other things, folks,
if you're listening to us. I guess I'm rambling a
little bit, but I just amazed that people don't take
advantage of the service that you offer when you're talking
to crawl space, because I get a lot of calls
on crawl space cold damp. Do I insulate the underside

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of the floor above the cross space it's the kitchen,
Or do I do the concrete walls? And you said
a spray foam. I've talked about foam panels. I know
they're not in the same category of effectiveness. Can you
spray foundation walls in a cross space?

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah, that's what really code now for new construction. They
no longer spray the underside of the crawl space. I
mean what they found over the years that just inhibits
mold and just issues. So and you know what they
put up there is usually a fiberglass batting so eventually,
with gravity, it's going to fall down. So the way

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to do it now is we spray the exposed crawl
space perimeter and we do a closed cell about an
inch and a half thick spray foam, and we spray
from the dirt floor to the bandboard and encapsulate that perimeter.
And you're not going to get any of those elements
leaking in from the outside, you know, which is what's

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making that floor cold this time of years. Really really, man,
you're not going to have mold or you know, it's
a waterproofoam just really cleans it up down there as well.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Right, well, I know one of the buzzwords, and it's
been for a while is a whole home encapsulation, be
it the attic or the crawl space, and that's just
a direction that's going. And it is a cleaner, healthier
home that way. And obviously the tighter we get it.

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You know, we sometimes we have to have ventilation added also,
but my goodness, you can really have a very very
healthy home and one that doesn't smell, minimizing the old
growth and everything else.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
All right, Yeah, and if you're building a home, I
just came from appointment this morning where they're son was
actually going to be building a new house and he
was interested possibly in the spray phone and it. You know,
it's really you got one shot to do it, right,
and that's when you're building it. We can spray the
whole structure and you know, you're in a very efficient environment,

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and it's just really the way to do it. It just
be very easy to eat and cool year round. And
people are extremely happy with the spray phone.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
You know, my daughter, she lives in Charlotte Nate and
she bought an or bungalow, and it was a good
sized bungalow. It's probably built, you know, forties fifties, and
her and her husband had that house literally torn down
to the foundation and extended it. You know, property down there,

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it's just boom city and upgrades left and right. And
when she was doing it, and you know they were
doing they knew what they were doing. And they got
to the end and her contractor was pushing her to
foam insulate everything as they built, and she was, you know,

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that's that insulation isn't the sexiest thing to sell, right
it's two thousand more And I go, I'm telling you
right now, do it, do it, do it, do it
it is.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
And spend money to save money. But it's easily over.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
The She she brings it up all the time and
this is probably I don't know, six years ago now
and she goes, this is the best thing we ever
didde to it.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, So let's let's take a step back because of
getting a little bit off the track. But I want
to let everybody know. I'm sure some of the reasons
we're all ask you what some of the reasons are
why people don't insulate the walls of a home that
is an older home where you're very very drafty. Is

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it that they don't know that you can do that
on a home that's already built.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
We run into that. It's kind of a mixed bag.
I mean, some people know they want to do it,
it just other things take precedence and you know, the months,
years go on and it's just one of those things.
Just get it done and once it's done, it easily
recoups the cost.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Right.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
But again, you're going to have certain individuals, you know,
they'll buy an older home. They don't realize it's not insulated,
and of course, once the temperatures change they find out
pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
You get your first bill, you'll know.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yes, yes, so, but yeah, I mean they're you know,
there's not much we're not able to insulate or reinsulate.
So it's definitely definitely a smart thing to get done,
especially if it's a home you know you're going to
be standing for a little while.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Sure, is it safe to say that the money you save,
and I'm sure it's sizable, depending on how the house
is constructed and stuff. Maybe thirty percent, I don't know,
But the money that you'll be giving to the energy company.

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Obviously you'll be paying if you hit the insulation in
you save the energy, you're pretty much it's gonna pay
itself off in five years and then you get to
keep all the all the money, right.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Yeah, well you could sell this for me, Gary, That's exactly.
That's exactly what I tell people, and it's the truth. Yeah,
it's really if you look at it and the grand
scheme of things, that's money you're already spending. Given it
to the power company, you know, why not put it
back towards the home with the insulation, and like you
were saying, once it's paid off just through your savings,

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it's it's you get to keep the insulation. The savings
are their lifetime of a home, and that's more money
in your pocket. So it's a one win.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Well, you've been apprecing it for years, and I've been
talking about USA insulation for over twenty years because your
reputation in the savings, I mean, you can't beat it.
Let's take a quick break. We'll tell everybody they're probably
looking at their house and go like, and how we
getting that insulation in those walls. That's what we'll do next. Nate,
He's from USA Insulation. He's my guest, and you're at

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home with Gary Salvin right here in fifty five care
Ce Detok Station. Hey Burgess, he is UASA Insulation, and
we've been talking about FOAE inslation, FOE insulation in new homes,
encapsulation and cross spaces, addics, and now we're going to
go to I guess is your typical customer? Correct me

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if I'm wrong living an older home? Energy bills killing them,
it's allowed in the house, it's drafty, it's cold, it's
too hot in the summer. And is that your typical?

Speaker 4 (33:00):
It's all the above, all.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
The above, all right. So if I'm sitting in a
home that was built in nineteen, you know, thirty eight,
and it's a brick home, we're built in nineteen fifty.
Even if it's a little cape cod and just like
the house I grew up in, there's no insulation in
those walls. How do you get the insulation in the walls?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
So any masonry construction we just drill. Actually it's all
done from the exterior. We drill little five eighth inch
pinky sized holes right in the key joints of the mortar,
and then we gain access to that cavity or wall
seam and then just a series of holes and then
they basically pressure fill that cavity, fill it up with
our foam, and then we'll remortar grout those joints, and

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that conceals all the work.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
What happens if you got like vinyl sighting. Some of
those homes have vinyl sighting.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
On, right, so that's a little different procedure. What we
do is we'll actually remove just a middle strip of
the vinyl panel and then we'll drill one two inch
diameter holes a little bigger hole, and then I'll run
a flexible hose bottom to top, inject our insulation in,
and then we'll plug the hole and reattach the panels.

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That conceals all both all the work.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Wow. So it foam is under pressure, so it's going
wherever there's voids, right exactly.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
So it's we're not just drilling holes hoping it's filling
everything up. I mean, we're actually pushing the product with
compressed air. So it is looking for all the nooks
and creamies. And that's what's really separates this from conventional
blowing and just I mean, you know, this is looking
for all those crevices and volids, and it really makes

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a difference with the coverage.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
No worry, I mean goes around wires and pipes and
everything else. Correct, Yeah, just.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Just basically yep, just encapsulates any wiring, piping and the
foam itself. It's unlike a spray foam, which you know,
once that's set up gets pretty hard. That's to get
softer material. So if you needed access to the wall
once it's phoned, it's really not a problem to uh,
you know, cut into or you can push wires cables

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through it if you have to run something through the wall.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Is there a there's gaps in most every home, half
the homes all over?

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I mean yeah, pretty much every
home is going to have, you know, gaps and voids.
We should be able to get.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
To interesting So is it about the R value that's
going in there or is it more about just eliminating
the draft?

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Just eliminating the draft really, I mean the R value
on paper, it can be comparable to you know, conventional
insulation like a perch. But the thing is with foam,
it's an air barrier. You're not going to get that
with you know, conventional blowing material or even roll batting right.
And then again the other factor is the coverage of it.

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I mean you get a complete fill within the cavity,
which you just can't achieve with conventional insulation.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Well, it seems like a lot of energy companies we're
always talking about, you know, wanting you know, where are
we getting all this energy?

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (36:32):
So, is there is there any discounts by putting something
like a foam installation in a home, even a newer
home like an attic or something along those lines.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Yeah, I mean they do have a federal tax credit
for an insulation improvements or adding insulation to an existing home,
so you would get a percentage back if done before
the end of the year. And yeah, as far as
utility savings, I mean you're going to see if it's
lacking up in an attic and we you know, add

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more R value up there. It's going to make an improvement,
you know, on the heating costs, so as well as
air conditioning.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
In the stommer, the text credits the energy text credit
any word on twenty twenty six. If it ends at
the end of the year, I better.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Get going, Yeah, exactly. So there's as far as we
I mean, it's definitely locked in for this for twenty five.
They're supposed to have it for twenty six, but they
can always change, you know, the stipulation and percentages. So
if it is something someone's interested in doing, it would

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make sense just the lock and in for this tax year,
so you know you're getting it. Then you're kind of
taking a chance. As far as going into the new year.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Well, i'll tell you what. The cold weather's here. We're
kind of seeing that right now. And there's a lot
a lot of forecasts that's say it's going to be
a cold winner. But it seems like every year they
say it's going to be a cold winter because right
winners are cold it is, and or.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
We got Ohio weather. It's just it is up and down.
So you'll be prepared year round with the insulation. But yeah,
it's definitely around the corner, if not already here.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, yeah, so real quick, and I'll let you go.
If you have maybe a home that was built in
the eighties and you've got a couple of drafty spots
in your home, how do you address that? And can
you have the foam inslation inserted where there's already maybe
like cellulose insallation.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Right, yeah, and then we can I mean, that's what's
nice way. Once we apply the foam into the cavity,
it's going to push out all the existing insulation, compress
any fiberglass, batting or cellulos, just putting it out of
the way, filding all the empty crevices and voids. And
that's something we'd have to look at on a case
by case asis with the home. If they're just certain

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areas we can measure, you know, give them a price
for that or for a whole house. We will see
what would.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Be beast Well, you do good work. It pays for
itself down the road. And I know a lot of
these jobs can be done in a day, so people
will have job we can do. It's gonna get cold.
How do they get a hold of you real quick?

Speaker 4 (39:25):
They can reach us at our phone number. It's gonna
be five one three three eight one thirty six twenty
six three eight one phone.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Very good. Thank you so much, Nate, Thank you, Gary,
all right, take care, all right, how about that, let's
get on the stick. It's gonna get cold. No sense
in messing around with that, Danny boy, Thank you very much.
Kind of okay today. I think we did well. We'll
continue tomorrow for more at Home with Gary Sullivan