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Speaker 1 (00:30):
All right, the weekend is upon us in Welcome here
at Home with Gary Salton talking a little home improvement,
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(00:50):
So take advantage of both of those sales. In the meantime.
Happy to take your calls. Our phone number is eight
hundred eight two three eight two five five And Dennis,
thanks for waiting. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, and you got me, yes, sir, Okay, my German
shepherd got into a case of wine and broke a
couple of bottles of.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Wine on the red wine on the on the concrete
board of the basement, or say she didn't get cut,
but we got a massive stain. Oh I get rid
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well, that's a good question. And in forty years, Dennis,
I've never been asked that I've had red wine on tablecloths.
You know, this is a story and it worked from
a long time ago, but I don't know if it'll
work on concrete because in concrete. You know, like water

(01:47):
will penetrate through concrete, it'll penetrate down into the capillaria.
And the one thing I would try would be vinegar.
But a red wine tip would be to use white
wine on top of the red wine to remove red
wine stains on cloth. Now, I don't know if it's

(02:12):
going to work on concrete.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
But that is.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, So a vinegar or a white wine, give that
a try in all honesty, and you know, hopefully it
too will get down into those capillaries. I don't know
how it works, but I've used it on tablecloths already,
and there's there's a lot of good stained eliminators out there.

(02:39):
If the white wine on top of red wine doesn't work,
there's a stain remover that we have at our house
that I found that the National Hardware Show is called
Moston Backers. I know it's a good Irish name, Moston
Backers stain remover, and they have a couple ones for

(03:00):
pet stains, organic stains, ink and that type of thing.
But Mouston Bokers is m O S. I think it's
te N B A C H E R. I believe
Mouston Backers and you get the they got the they
got a low kit with all three of the different

(03:20):
stain rumors. That works real good too. I've never been
defeated with the Mouston Bocker stain remover on anything. But
if you got some you know, INEXPECSI of white wine
or some vinegar, give that a try first.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
All right, we'll try it all. Thank you very much,
and I'll let you know what happens.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Very good. I appreciate it. Thank you. All right. It's
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five talking
about your home. Jeff, welcome. Hey, you doing garay doing fine? Thanks?

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Hey, I just seen a show a couple of days
ago where they had spilled red wine all over the
couch and the mom came in and used white wine
to clean it.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's exactly what I just just told that fella. It
really does work. I've done it multiple times on tablecloths
and different things. I don't know how it'd work on
granted or even concrete, but on cloth, white wine definitely
will dissolve the red wine coloring stain for sure.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yep, it definitely did it. But my question was I
moved to my daughter's and her house was built in
the nineteen seven, so I know it doesn't have a
whole lot of inflation, but they have an unfinished face.
So insulating the ceiling in that basement, is that good

(04:51):
for the upstairs? Like the floor?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, how cold is it in the basement?

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Well that's yeah, that was my other question. In the winter,
it probably gets down to I don't know, fifty five maybe.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
No heat down there, right, no, no, okay, okay, Well, yeah,
I mean it would help. Don't use a I don't
think you want to use a faced type insulation unless
the basement's damp. But you could put up you could

(05:31):
have foam sprayed in there. You could have batting, unfaced
batting put in between the joist there. I mean it
would help. I mean if you feel like, especially like
if you have like a ceramic floor in a kitchen
over the basement and it's never warmer in fifty five degrees,

(05:53):
that ceramic could be chilled and feel a little uncomfortable,
and putting some insulation there would be beneficial.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I didn't think it could. Obviously, it couldn't.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Hurt, right, right, it can't hurt. It can't hurt. So
you know, the other option would be to insulate the
basement walls but if you don't have heat, it's still
gonna be you know, it's still gonna be a chilly area.
Cold temperatures, you know, settle warmth rises. But yeah, I mean,

(06:27):
you know, if you feel like there's a draft from
the basement to the first floor or a floor is cold, yeah,
go ahead and insulate it.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Good deal, all right, Gary, All right, take care?

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Thank you have a good day.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
You do the same, Yeah, take care? All right. You
know another thing we talked about yesterday too, when it
comes to insulating a basement, and I know he didn't
have heat down in there, but if you want to
keep as much of the cold on the outside, first
of all, when you go below grade, remember those walls.
You know it's gonna be fifty five degrees anyway, right,

(07:02):
it's below grade once you get below that frost line.
If it's above the frost line or above grade and
you have winter temperatures in the twenties, you know, that's
radiating a lot of cold into that basement. And you
can look at it as encapsulating the basement like you

(07:22):
would encapsulate a cross space, so you could get you know,
two inch foam panels on those walls. You could have
foam sprayed in the pockets of the joist pockets. Sell
a lot a lot of cold air enters our home
where the joyster, you know, on the foundation, and there's

(07:44):
that pocket that goes to you know, the outside and
the outside frame of the house above grade and air
gets in there. And a lot of times people just
stuff some fiberglass insulation in there. But you know that's
the same stuff that furnace filters are made out of, right,
So having something a little bit more where there is

(08:06):
an air infiltration would be better. Foam does a tremendous job,
and a lot of foamers like a USA insulation where
they'll spray that in there. Man, that'll seal that up.
And if you did that in the joist pockets and
then put either foam or foam panels on the walls
even below gray just to keep that chill from entering

(08:31):
into the basement, because you know that might be that
be advantageous. And then at that point maybe it wouldn't
be just fifty five degrees. You might be able to
warm that up and not worry about insulating the floor.
Then because there's pipes and wires and all kinds of
things there that are going to be getting in a
way from the insulation, or putting the insulation in there

(08:53):
so that that might be another thought. Also, windows that
are in basement, they're usually very inexpensive windows, not very
weather tight at all, and putting in an inside a
glass block window would be beneficial also, especially in eliminating drafts.

(09:14):
And as you take a walk around the house too,
a lot of penetrations going through maybe the sighting or
the brick wall on the outside going into the foundation
that is above grade, and maybe pipes, electrical cables, et
cetera going through there on the outside. When you do
that walk around and even vent pipes, dryer vents and

(09:37):
things like that, those holes are usually oversized and again
a lot of draft blowing in around those pipes and
things on the outside. Just calking those and the ceiling
those up would be very beneficial. All right, again, our
phone number and line's open for you. It's eight hundred

(09:58):
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Speaker 7 (12:49):
All right, back at it, we go at Home with
Gary Salvan taking it through a weekend. By the way,
if you miss the conversation on we talked about gutter
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(13:09):
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Speaker 4 (14:22):
I've got those shoved in.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Ground floor drains everywhere, and I haven't ever taken them
out and cleaned them either.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I hate to say, well, you don't have to. It's
just fine. Yeah, you don't always have to clean. I
got them in my home. I bet I've had them
on for fifteen years. And there's one side of the
house that I have to take them out about every
two three years and shake them out, and that's it.
So one of them I got to hit it with
a hose. The other side, in the upper level, they're

(14:53):
they're good to go. I don't have any spillover. It
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There's a there's a little uh how does it fit?
You know where you're you know how your tank fits
on the bottom of the grill. There's like a little bracket. Uh,
there's a little scale that can actually fit on that
where it'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Tap a tape on the side of the tank.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Also, yeah, yeah, because there's a difference in temperature. You're
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(17:11):
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All Right, he dropped off. Okay, very good, all right,
thank you much. I do appreciate it. And let's go
to Tom. Tom welcome, Oh Gary.

Speaker 10 (17:30):
Uh, I listen to see all the time. I got
a couple of questions about my pole barn. Okay, but
I put it up like seven eight years ago. I
had somebody do it. I had a porch put on there,
and they're like, uh five six by six poles to
support their overhang roof and A couple of them have

(17:51):
some serious crafts in there, okay, in the wood, and
I want to repair that, and then also I gotta
clean it up. I have just put what and forget
on it, and I want to clean it up. So
on spring I can seal them like a bonehead. I
never sealed it. Yeah yeah, and I also have another question,

(18:11):
but go ahead.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Well, just to repair those cracks, there is a wonderful
product that'll do that. It's made by Abatron and it's
called wood epos. And this is pressure treated wood or
not pressure treated wood? Yes, yes, okay, yeah, it sounds
like that's why I cracked. It was the lack of
seal it and then the sun hits it and no

(18:33):
one gets a movement. So take this, Abatron. You won't
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but you won't need this. That wood is still solid.
We just want to sell seal that thing up and
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is the name of it, made by Abatron. Wood epocs.

(18:53):
You can get it that. I've seen the big box stores,
you know, obviously you can get it online. Just get
some of that. It's very easy. To apply. You don't
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Speaker 10 (19:04):
Should I use that now or waite those stunts.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Either or I'd go ahead and use it now just
to get the because those things are pressure treated on
the outside, but when they crack, it kind of exposes
the area that's not pressure treated. So let's get those
patched up now. If you don't mind, just hold on
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(22:17):
little home improvement and we were chatting with tom about
the pressure treated wood and how it splits. And he's right,
if you get pressure treated wood and don't seal it,
you know, within a couple of months unless it's over
the winter when the sun. The sun is what really
causes that to dry out and it'll split. And putting
a little wood of pox in there patch it up

(22:38):
very nicely. And Tommy had another question, Yes, you know, I.

Speaker 10 (22:43):
Tell you I have this full barn put on and
then I came back a couple years later and had
an apron put on at the entrance and the edgit
fall in. God, they put that fiber in there between
the two sections.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Of the concrete.

Speaker 10 (23:01):
So I put the phone in and I put the
quick Creek self leveling Joe. Well, that all sunk, and
I was wondering if there's something I could do, like
maybe get some play sand or builder sand and put
it in there and then come back with, uh, some
of the quick crete self leveling stuff, because right now

(23:23):
I've noticed it's the concrete starting to sink a little
bit and it's no longer level.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
So there's a couple of things we can do here.
I'll give them both to you. So how big a
gap is there, Well.

Speaker 10 (23:42):
I'm gonna say about a good half inch.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Half inch, okay, maybe some spots a quarter inch, some
spot upt a.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Half inch okay. So in the areas where it's you know,
three quarters of an inch half inch, what I would
recommend is you can put sand in there. To answer
your question, you would put it in there and you
would fill that up to about i'd say three ace

(24:10):
of an inch from the surface, Okay, So you could
do that or you can use what they call a
backer rod, and a backer rod is it's like foam rope.
They used to use oakum way back in the days.
If you've ever had to do that, it's like creosote
soaked manila rope. But this foam roping just gets shoved

(24:36):
down in there with your fingers or your screwdriver something
along noselanes again, push it down there till it's about
three ace of an inch from the surface. Basically, the
whole purpose of that is to give it a foundation
to hold the patch and the patch you're going to use,
rather than using a it says you said something about

(24:56):
like a recap or a resurfacing concrete. What I would
use is there's two products. Quickly makes them both. One
of them is a self leveling euthane crack filler. It
comes in a calking tube and it's a larger cocking
tube and you need an industrial colcking gun. It's real thick,

(25:18):
but it comes out it's grain color and it levels.
It goes down like a big bead. Maybe you'll need
to put a second bead on top of it, but
then it'll level out. It'll look very nice and it's
your thane, which is the highest adhesion rate, the greatest flexibility.
There's also one called acrylic resins self leveling crack filler,

(25:43):
which comes in a regular cocking tube. It does not
require an industrial cocking gun. It's a high quality resin
which has a lot of the exact same properties as
the your thane. A little easier to use. Uh, but
we'll do the same thing. So that's one category. The

(26:03):
other option here, tom as you said, starts sinking. And
you know, whenever we have a you know, some excavation
work around that area and then backfill it and maybe
we put some gravel in there and we pour a slab,
there's still settlement settling that occurs over time. I just

(26:25):
I built my house twenty six years ago on the
front sidewalk has now settled about two inches. And what
I've done is I've done what they call slab jacking.
It's a service. So other people call it concrete leveling.
Other called mud jacking. But what they do is they
drill through the slab and it's a relatively i don't know,

(26:50):
smaller and a half inch hole and they pump under
pressure a grouting which lifts the entire slab all right,
it'll lift it to a point where there probably won't
be a gap anymore, and it will have additional support underneath.

(27:10):
And then that company you can't do it yourself, that
company will then come back and if calking is needed
in that back area, they'll do that, and they'll also
patch the holes where they where they drilled through it.
So you could do the sand one first and see
how it does with the your thane or the high

(27:31):
resin cocking self leveling that I was talking about, or
you could maybe look into maybe do the slab jacking there.

Speaker 10 (27:40):
Now I looked at there, or a number of different
types of sand play sand, builder sand, border sand. What
type would you suggest.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Well, I'm not even really sure it matters. Probably like
a builder sand. I think a place you don't want
a silica sand, you don't want to play sand, just
like a builder sand. Really, it's so purpose is to
just fill. It's just a fill. If there's still settling
occurring underneath that it's going to The sand will settle.

(28:12):
The calking will hold because of its adhesion to the
two sides, and it's it's self leveling and everything is
you know, it can eventually give way obviously, but that's
got about the best adhesion you're gonna find. Then you're
probably gonna have to go and take a look at

(28:32):
the concrete slab jacking.

Speaker 10 (28:36):
Yeah, and then, uh, should I let it sit for
a little bit before I put the self leveling.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
No, I just just think of that sand as a filler,
so you know, get it in there if you you know,
can you know somehow push something in there to compact
it just a little bit. It's not going to require much.
And then just go ahead and and put your your
thane or your high red and on top of that,
or use the even the the backer rod that I

(29:04):
was speaking of the phone. It'll be protected, it'll be
wedged between the slabs. And again it just functions as
a as a filler so that you don't waste all
the uh the good stuff.

Speaker 10 (29:20):
Okay, thank you very much, all right, a.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Lot, thank you. Take care. All right. It's eight hundred
at eight two three eight two five five, Opie, welcome.

Speaker 9 (29:31):
How are we doing today?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Doing great? Thank you?

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Alright.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
I got two tips for you. Number one that the
young lady that had the had the lid stuck on
her pot yesterday. Yeah, I've had that happen before. Easiest way,
easiest way to fix that if you grab a hold
of the handle on that lid and take a take
a rubber mallet or like a plastic lixie hammer boom
boom boom, and lightly tap, lightly tap that pan. Okay,

(29:58):
on the side of very the very top one we'll
do is a little oval it enough just for that
thing to drop out.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Huh did you like my cold and hot idea?

Speaker 9 (30:07):
That's too much work?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
All right? Well, I was curious if that was gonna work,
to be honest with you.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
You know, you know what they say, a fall else fails,
beat on it.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, Well, I'm right there with you. That's a great tip.
I appreciate it. I was. I didn't know how to
answer that one though. It was for people that didn't
hear it. It was a skill at a frying pan
and an aluminum lid that when it's cooking. I guess
it sucked that lid down and jammed it in there.
So I hope he says, rubber mallet, I guess that
would work.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Now.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
One other tip for you, all right, You know the
metal light posts that you've got in your yard that
rust out every three four or five years.

Speaker 9 (30:48):
Makes you've got real acidic soil like I have.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Okay, And besides which, those things are not cheap. Well
to the electrical department and get you a piece of
two and a half inch TVC con do it. And
they go back to the paint department and get you
a can of rustolium plastic paint. And then you go
home and you take hacksaw and cut the cut that
piece of PDC pipe, the wink that you know what

(31:12):
I'm talking about, the one with a bell on the
end of it.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Sure, you're kind of creating like a socket, right.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
That's the same size as that's the same size as
that light fixture. You cut the you and they're old.
They always come too long, and they're like eighteen bucks.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Okay, So you.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
Cut it the wink, drill a half inch hole in
the side of it down below grade where the wire
goes in, paint that thing, plant it, put your light
on it, and you never have to worry about it again.
You may have to paint it again in five years,
but they last forever. I did that with mine, might
have been in about twelve years now, right, and never
had any trouble. My neighbors just rusted out and we

(31:49):
just did his a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
There you go. Now what you gotta do is manufacture
of those things, and you know you'll be a rich man,
hope you.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Oh yeah, Well we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Hey, thanks for the car. I appreciate it, all right,
Thanks for your show.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
I appreciate the show.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Very good. Thanks Sophie. Take care. All right, Let's take
a little break and when we come back, it's like
tip day and they's nothing roll with that either. Larry'll
be up first. We'll take that break. You're at home
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(35:06):
Back at it we go. We're thirteen minutes before the
top of the art and if you'd like to join us,
we're going to wrap things up here for the weekend
pretty soon. It's eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. Grab a line, Larry, Welcome, Orry.

Speaker 11 (35:22):
Thanks for taking my call, sir, you bet I wanted
to share something with you regarding an electric water tank.
I think I called you last spring when I was
thinking about replacement. When I moved to my house. It
was only a couple of years old, so obviously I
wasn't worried about replacement. But this year I thought, well,
it's fourteen years old, maybe it's time. And I think

(35:42):
I've a touch base with you to compare the big
box store brands to the plumbing supply brands. Well, I
end up going with the plumbing supply brand. Okay, And
in case your listeners are on the fence about replacing
the twelve or fourteen year old hot water tank, my
experience was I keep very close tabs of my electric consumption,

(36:05):
and after I had that tank put in and replaced
a private label big box store, my electric bill was
incredibly much lower than the past many years. So for
what it's worth, I put two and two together and
I had to come up with four and that new
hot water tank. Replacing a private label big box store

(36:29):
fourteen years old with a new one, the electric consumption
dropped incredible.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I got a couple questions, just out of curiosity, Larry
an Electric.

Speaker 11 (36:38):
Give any named brands. I don't know. If you want
to do add an offer, I can certainly get into you.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah. Well, one of the things I was going to
ask you, is you know the apples and apples you know,
equivalent with electric tank. Some an electric tank fourteen years
ago could not get the Energy Star rating. Okay, I
mean couldn't it Just couldn't They have electric water tanks.

(37:05):
Now that they they're better, they also have the ability
to get an energy Star rating and on the label
of every hot water tank. Appliances are the same way.
I just got a new refrigerator, had some issues with it,

(37:26):
but from a standpoint of energy consumption, remarkably different. Now
there's twenty year difference there.

Speaker 11 (37:33):
Yeah, so they have a label that comes with it
tells you that, Yes.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
That's what I was going to say. And I don't
know if you compared that when you were making that purchase,
but everybody.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Well I did. Yeah, there's a rating.

Speaker 11 (37:44):
I think it's called a you you you E F
or UF.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
It's the I don't know, but I know what you mean.
Are there even on windows?

Speaker 11 (37:54):
And of course the electric is much more efficient than
a gas uh. And I think I think the I
think the rating was comparable to my old one, but
I'm thinking that probably the maybe the heating elements and
that big box store brand might have not been as
good as a plumbing supply well, and they were getting

(38:15):
croded and calcium and but my lectric consumption really really dropped,
I mean unbelievable. So I wish I would have replaced
it five years ago.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
But you know, that's anyway, that's amazing, I know, And
sometimes it's good brands they get kind of shuffled in
a little confusing too, because like Ao Smith, they and
I'm not saying it's still not a great brand, but
you can get those at Low's now you used to
have to get them all from plumbing.

Speaker 11 (38:50):
Yes, and you can buy Ram at home Depot, but
I've read and read and read, and you get mixed reviews.
And in order for Lows and Home Depot to sell
those brands at the prices they sell compared to the
plumbing supply stores, there has to be some difference.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Well, these companies, there's a couple of things, and this
is just a little consumer advice kind of what you're giving.
But some things like Remington, for instance, that's a brand
name we all grew up with in fact, and you know,
and companies like a Home Depot will buy that brand
name and create their own product under that brand name, right,

(39:34):
And when it comes to like what we're talking, some
of the water heater companies they will make it'll be
made by Aosmith or Reem, but it might be their
entry level. And the plumbing supplies don't carry the entry
level they play. They carry more of the professional brand.

Speaker 11 (39:55):
So and that also applies to unless a lot of
guard equipment. So many may carry a name brand John
Deere or Simplicity, but I don't think it's the same
as you buy at a line of garden supply store
and you're in that business for thirty years, right right.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
And I remember when it all started with the big
box stores, you know, I mean we carried Toro lawnmars
at an independent hardware store, and you know, we were
shaking in our boots when big box stores, not that
the margins were small on them anyway, and they came
in and eventually to satisfy everybody, they you know, the

(40:33):
Toro made a met too brand that could be sold
in the big box stores, and the independent dealer had
the old fashioned better that's where all the better bells
and whistles were on. The stripped down version is still
a Torow still manifact.

Speaker 11 (40:49):
That's I and I do my business at those better
brand stores, I mean the hardware stores, the line of guards.
But anyway, on the tank, if you have any listeners
whose tank is getting older and uh, and especially if
it's even gas or electric. Uh, I'll tell you what
that'st what I ever spent because I I keep I'm

(41:10):
very O c D about my utility bills. And I
started getting my bills last spring after I had to
put in and I was I thought there's something off
my meter. I mean it was that much difference.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Wow, had a great tip, great tip, and I appreciate it.
Thank you very much, Larry Garyhead. All have a good day,
but you bet you bye bye, and Jim welcome.

Speaker 9 (41:32):
Good afternoon again, sir. Yeah, I'll put a new hot
I put a new gas hot water tank in my house,
thirty gallon, hey o Smith, last last February.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Uh huh, and I go.

Speaker 9 (41:42):
And it's the insulation. I had trouble getting it in
there because it was so much bigger than the old
one's thirty gallon. And I no more hot water than
I used my filet light. Only that hot water tank
never kicks on as a matter of fact, it's too
hot and you've got, you got some way I would
like to turn the temperature down a little bit, you

(42:02):
gunny ideas.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Well, it'll be on your manual if you can, and
where it's located, because that dial's not right out in
front like it used to be.

Speaker 9 (42:15):
Well, my well, mine is on the gas down on
the bottom there. But all I've got mine run on
just pallet light. I mean, you've got it just on
the pilot light, just on the pallet light. And I
get plenty of hot water here, tass, and there's kind
of cute.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah. Well, I don't know if you're going to get
it any cooler than just on the pilot light.

Speaker 9 (42:39):
I mean, I've got one hundred and thirty degrees right now,
I'm coming out to sink, and I mean I like
to have it maybe about one hundred and twenty. I
like to knock it down a.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Few so there is no thermostatic setting, is what you're saying.
On that on that water.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (42:53):
It's got all kinds of it on there. It's got
low medium's got a B, C and D on it,
and but I've just got I've just got it turned
up on a pallet like that's all I've got and
it never kicks on.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Well, how's the water getting that? Lot?

Speaker 9 (43:07):
Then they cause all that new insulation because it's so
much biggarsling. I can figure.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
I don't know, it's somewhere you got to get that pollo.
It's not going to get that uh, that reservoir of
water to that degree and then be able to hold it.
And I mean you got you got to have it
on something on a setting on low or something. Have
you moved that to low to see what happens.

Speaker 9 (43:33):
I've got it on just dull palate likes. I've got
it on. I've got everything turned off. But I only
use hot water maybe once a day, and not that much.
And I guess that palette light and that thing's in
talks with the candles on.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well even even that you know it,
you may be right. The recovery on that wouldn't be
you know, if you're not using much hot water, it's
not going to require that much recovery. I don't know.
I would get on that in the manual though, and
read about the h the settings and see if there

(44:09):
is a clue or an answer there. Outside of that,
I guess you're what you're saying would be correct. All right,
that's going to wrap up this weekend, Danny boy, thank
you very much for your help. I appreciate it. Good
Lord Willing. We'll both be back next weekend for more
at Home with Gary Sullivan.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
He's the weekend and you have fixed questions. Give Gary
a call at eighty two three talk this. He's at
home with Gary's sullivant, the Difficult, the Depot

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