Gary Sullivan 11/26/2023 Hour 2

Gary is taking your calls, questions and more.

Episode Transcript

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open for you, and let's kickthings off with Edwin. Edwin, welcome,
good dating, sir. You're doingtoday. I'm doing fine? Thank
you great. I just want tosay you got a great show there at
the Home Inspector. From everything I'velistened, and I also appreciate everyone else
who calls in. I apply alot of that knowledge towards towards my inspections.

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Thank you. It's really good it'sreally beneficial for everyone, you know
doing that. But my question atthis home I was inspecting, and I've
done a lot of research on thisas well. I wanted to get your
opinion on it. There's a housethat's about ten to twelve years ago,
I think a twelve and it's gota foundation crack that's about a quarter to

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three eighths of an inch wide topto bottom. It looks like it was
it's not to a park, andit looks like, you know, moisture
expansion from freezing and dying over theyears. And as far as epoxy in
that because it doesn't look like it'sgoing to get any bigger, they've taken
care of that moisture problem on theoutside. How good is that epoxy resin

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sealer? And does it really notjust feel it, but does it make
it all back into one piece again, Well, it will forever be not
one piece. It will connect thedots if you will. And it also
depends on which epoxy resin you're talkingabout the one and there's probably several out

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there. The one I'm most familiarwith is also very convenient. It's made
by Quick Creed and it is anepoxy that is actually in a clocking tube
actually mixes through the spout as you'reapplying it, and you know that that
that's kind of a do it yourselfone, and then there's ones that different

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companies will use an epoxy injectable that'sunder pressure. So the do it yourself
one's not really under pressure. It'sit's pumping it in minimal pressure, I
guess we could say. And youknow, it still does a really good

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job. I've used it on acouple things, and the opening that you're
talking about, especially the three ACEpart. You know, the quarter inch
might be a little challenge to getthat material in there if it isn't under
pressure, but the three A youI'd be able to pump it, you

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know, a goodly amount in thereto solve the problem. The one that's
under pressure probably a little bit better, more of a professional application. Probably
start in the three ACE area.You would pump it under pressure. It
actually seal the crack with a quarterinch from underneath an out. Okay,
so it's gonna find in you know, the path of least resistance since it's

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under pressure, and create that seal. So I think on that casion,
yeah, you probably get it done. Pretty easily. Yeah, does that
somewhat expand by itself in a way, kind of like that expand the phone
that you put in cracks for windows? And yeah, I wouldn't really relate

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it to is like a foam,but just since there is some pressure in
it and the viscosity of it isn'treally super thick, it would certainly work
as a filler. Is I thinkthe way I'd like to answer it,
you know it, I don't thinkit's going would seal it? Yeah,

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I'm sorry, Yeah, I don'tknow if would seal it. But would
it bind it as well? Yes, yes, it would bind it absolutely
absolutely. Yeah. So is thisa very much? Yeah? Is this
a stair step or is it astraight up crack or what? How's it
looking? It's a straight up crack. Yeah, it's a straight up crack

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up and down on a corner.Uh No, it's actually uh in about
uh let's say the walls about fortyfeet. It's probably about it's almost right
in the center. Really, that'sinteresting. Yeah. Yeah, corner ones
are a little bit more dastardly.So I think you'd be good using that

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POxy. Yep. Okay, wellgreat, thank you very much. You're
quite welcome. Thank you, Iappreciate. Yeah, something worth inspecting to
as we always talk about that,walk around the house and take a look
too, especially if you got downspouts that go underground. People don't realize,
but that ground is always moving andsettling and shifting. And I've hitted

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at my own home quite honestly,where I'll be just all of a sudden
one day walking around the house,just kind of looking at things and notice,
Wow, that's just not quite linedup, and quickly is you know,
don't procrastinate. Get that thing whereall that water from that down spout
is going into that pipe and awayfrom the house, because if it's just

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poorn right on a corner of ahouse, I guarantee you that'll settle and
it will crack. It may notbe the end of your foundation, but
it could be the beginning of theend of the foundation if it's not addressed.
So I would take a look atthat. All right, let's get
to Fran Fran welcome. Hello.A couple of things first. First,

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a complaint used to be in Billings, Montana that I could get you three
hours a day on Saturdays and Sundays. Now it's only two and I'm complaining
about that, Well, complain tothem because I have no control over it.
Okay, that's what I needed toknow. Okay. The other thing

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is on the septic system. Ihad a septic system put into back in
seventy seven and have never had itcleaned out. And the guy who did
it told me a couple of things. Never ever put a commercial product into
your septic system, no matter whatit says for advertising, don't do it.

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It'll say septic system safe, etc. Don't ever do it. And
I believe he's right. The otherthing is my brother also had a septic
system he was in for months.His guy told him the same thing.
He never had to have a cleanand the thing is one thing to always

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do is to put an apple.Just cut an apple up once a month
and put it in your system andit will take care of keeping that bacteria
in effect. Yeah, it reallyworks for you, you know. You
know, Fran in a way,I do agree with you. I mean
I really do. The problem isis these systems, you know, if

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they're well maintained, and the peopleusing the septic systems use you know,
you know, don't overload the laundrydetergent and don't get that thing out of
system out of balance. You're right, I mean you should need anything.
But if people maybe don't or noteducated enough on how to really use a

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septic system and it gets out ofbalance, then you got some issues.
And then you know you're either goingto use a commercial product, you're going
to pump it out one or theother. But I never had a pump
down and then that in the earlywell anyway, about ten to fifteen years

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ago, my daughter and her familymoved into that house and I moved out
and they haven't had any issues aswell. But the other from you that
I'm old, so you can't interruptan old person because I forget it mixed
up anyway, Oh never, You'reright about the toilet papers. The other

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thing is a lot of times peoplewill put hair down in the in the
toilet, they will put paper tailsand they can never put hair. It
does not it does not break down, and it takes years for paper towels
to break down. And if peopledon't understand that, there is always an

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issue and that's what they have toremember. Yeh. And I think that's
good advice. As I was alsosaying these baby wipes are just a disaster.
And again, using septic safe productscertainly can also extend a life of

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the entire septic system. All right, let's take a little break. We'll
come back. We got Tony Mike. If you'd like to join us,
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All right, let's go to TonyTony Welcome, Hey, good morning Gary.
The guy who called up talking aboutmixing mortar and having a fly problem.
Yep, he struck my heart becauseI had the exact same problem when
I was putting brick Collins in.I have three solutions. What's good,

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because I didn't have a good one. I'm thinking about pardon. That's good.
Because I'm not so sure I hada good one, all right,
Because if he's talking about gnats,maybe he doesn't understand you know, plant
or animal or insection stuff. Butthe net populations in July, August and
September are really dense. He caneither do the brick work, you know,

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in the early spring, early summer, late fall to avoid the gnats,
or he can go to his laundryroom. And there's two solutions in
his laundry room. There are thedryer sheets, the fabric soft good.
You can rip off a few ofthose and you can put them under his
hat. Now he may look silly, but how silly do you look?
Look like you do in a tribaldance? One? The other solution is

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to get the liquid fabric softener andput it on your skin and your neck,
and then that's just stay right awayfrom you. I wonder if that
will help with fly zough if hehas flies. But yeah, I've I
think the favorite software. I thinkit even worked with mosquitoes, if I'm

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not mistaken. Been a while sinceI had to do that, but uh,
I think favorite software does work prettygood with mosquitos also. All right,
let's go to Mike, Mike,Welcome, Hey Jerry, I got
a problem with the driver event.All right, I have a I have
an apartment above my garage. Theevent comes down to the floor into a

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lind trap and then goes about tenfeet and the exit and exits out the
side side wall of my garage inand then it goes into the eve and
then I have I have it pipedout of the eve. And Okay,
lately, I've noticed lately, I'venoticed that when my my daughter lives above

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the garage she drives her clothes,I'm getting water droplets on the floor,
and I'm I know that it's theyou know, it's the the vapors condensing
back into water. So my questionto you is, and it's it's just
that sin wall dryer, big dryervent pipe. If I would insulate that

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or get the insulated pipe, wouldthat necessarily takes care of that? The
garage is unair it's unair conditioned,and it's unheated. It may but it
may not. I mean, I'mnot sure that's gonna be one hundred percent
of the cure. Let me askyou a couple of questions. So the
dryers upstairs, it goes through thefloor and then goes down to the wall

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and then outside. Is that correct? Yeah, it comes down through the
ceiling and it goes about ten feetand then it goes out the wall.
So the dryer vents about ten feet. How many elbows are on that,
Uh, there's there's one. There'sone elbow that that that Uh, everything's

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kind of like it's not a completeelbow. It's more of an off offset.
So and anything that looks like anelbow would be I have like one
two elbows and and everything else iskind of like a just like an offset.
Okay, So here's here's what Ithink is happening. Okay, and
instant that pipe's not going to helpyou, okay. So I think what's

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happening is the dryer, of coursehas moisture, hot air, and it's
being evacuated through that pipe by byforce, you know, and the force
isn't enough to clear that much pipe. So rule of thumb is, you

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know, six to eight feet ofpipe. Now that's not saying every dryer
is vented like that. I've hitpeople call where there's twenty four feet of
vent pipe. But if you've gotfor every elbow, you add three feet
I don't know about an offset,but you're gonna have to add a foot
or two and then the length ofthe pipe. So you know, just

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doing quick math. If it's youknow, ten feet and you got two
elbows, that's sixteen feet, anda couple offsets that's eighteen feet, you
just may not have enough CFM toblow that warm moist air outside and it's
condensing inside the pipe. It's insidethe pipe and insulating it isn't gonna get

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it out any faster. So thereare and you know, there are booster
fans that you can put inside thatpipe, which creates a bigger drawl.
So that's that's my guess at it. That's you know, again I can't
see it or anything like that,but based on what you described, that

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would be the thing I'd be lookingat rather than insulation. So when she
would say if I'd put the boosterfan in, that would be like a
man. She'd have to turn iton when she's drying and turn it off
when she is not. Is amI correcting that? I believe that is
correct. Yes, okay, onemore question, all right, let me

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put you on hold. I'll getyou on the other side of the break
because we're up against a hard break. And another thing is if you want
to have a dryer cleaning person,come out and take a look at that
to make sure my prognosis is correct. That might be worth it. We'll
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after the top of the are athome with Gary Sullivan, and each and
every weekend day we kind of gettogether and talk about the biggest investment in
our life. It's our homes.And thanks for listening, thanks for calling,
and let's go back to Mike andfinish up his conversation. All right,
Mike, it's a quick question.I just finished the deck, well

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not just probably about a month totwo months ago, finished the deck.
I don't want to color the wood, but I want to preserve the wood.
Of course. What would be thebest type of treatment for that?
Well, okay, just know thatif you leave that natural color, you're
going to do that probably every yearor two because you're you're clear or you're

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natural they have. They have deckstains that are clear or natural. Not
every brand has it, but mostbrands do. And you know, I
get this call a lot because peoplelike that natural look of the wood.
The problem is there's no UV protectedor very little because there's no solids.

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There's not as many solids, there'sno tint, there's and so that wood
becomes gray and you know, youyou'll just put it on every year,
but you know you, if youwant to do that, there's you know,
it's up to you. Bear makesa good one, super deck makes

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a good one. They're all gonnalast about the same, Okay, So
then what's the next best thing asfar as that goes to keep, Well,
you can use it. You canuse a semi transparent. So if
you look at it, there there'sbasically two types of stains and protectings for

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deck. They're semi transparent, anda semi transparent goes from clear to colors
redwood, cedar, canyon, brown, gray, and then the solid color
stains is the other one. Itlooks more like a paint. It covers
up the wood grain. There's moresolids in it. So the semi transparents

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are going depending on how much sunif you're in a real sunny location,
probably three years. If you're ina shady location, maybe five years.
For a solid color stain, maybea sunny location five years, shady location
seven years. Okay, all right, all right, let me let me,

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let me revisit, let me revisitthe duckwork question one more time.
So I gave you what I thoughtit was, But one question I had
can you tell where it's leaking.Is it leaking where the pipes are connecting
or anything. Yes, I believeyes, it is leaking where the pipes
are connecting. Okay, so thatis kind of telling me it's puddling.

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Because when I got to thinking aboutwhat you had said, you know,
being in a garage and stuff,you know, I thought, well,
maybe condensation could be an issue.Normally would not be an issue at all,
but a colder garage, yeah,that could be an issue. But
if it's leaking right to seem probablynot. It's probably right the first time.
Yeah, Yet that the blower solutionsounds probably like my best thought.

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Now would say, I don't haveit. I actually don't have another option.
I can't take it out of theright I can't exhaust it come any
other way than what I'm doing it. Very good, Mike, thanks for
calling. Take care all right,let's go to Susan. Susan, welcome,

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Hi, thanks for taking my call. You bet. We're working on
a roof replacement project and I'm gettinglots of different answers. I'm getting so
many different opinions. I have soits, and one of my estimates said

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I need eight more saftits, andthe other estimates said I don't need anymore.
Okay, well let me answer that. I'll answer one at a time.
If you have questions, I thinkthat'd be good. So I'll just
give you some basic knowledge. Sothere is a formula for a properly insulated,

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addict or ventilated attic. Okay,for every three hundred square foot of
the footprint of the house, youshould have one square foot of uninterrupted ventilation
coming in and that should be splitfifty to fifty between going in and going
out. My guess, and it'sa guas, what I would do is

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I would ask that person, hey, why do I need eight more soffits?
And you may find out that thatroofer knows how to properly ventilate an
attic. Okay, Because so thereis a There is a formula, and
I will tell you that probably seventypercent of the attics are improperly ventilated.

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So it might be, I mean, it might be that person is right
and the other one's missed it.So quizming that quism on it? Okay,
all right, what's the next one? Okay? He also said that
because he looked up in my attic, he said, I need attic baffles,

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so he said, I don't haveany, so is that necessary?
And the baffle is to keep theinsulation from covering up the soffits, right,
he said. He described it asthe baffles keeping the insulation away from
the edges of the of the home, and he said that that's a must

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do. Okay. So so he'sexactly right. So when you're thinking about
ventilating this attic, okay, Itold you the formula how you're bringing the
cooler air. Even if it's ninetyfive degrees out, it's still cooler,
and hot air in the attic,if it's not properly ventilated, could be

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one hundred and forty degrees. Ifthose soffits get covered up with insulation,
it can't bring in the cooler air. So all that ventilation that's designed in
that attic isn't gonna work. Sothe baffles keep the insulation in place.
It keeps it from blowing and coveringup those soft events, which is the

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life bloo. It's like the heart, you know, it's the life blood
of the whole cooling process in theattic. I would ask him this first,
Yes, you do need baffles insidethat attic. Second question is the
insulation covering up the soffits? Now? Uh huh? Okay, right,

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so you got another question. Yes, So there is a in a like
there's a porch, there's a backporch, and there are stairs leading up
to the p and there's a smallsection of the roof that is just over
the stairs. It's not over thehome itself. It's over the stairs,

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but it's they're describing it as alow pitch. Second, okay, and
so one person said, shingles arefine and just the same as the rest
of the house. One person said, it's it must be rubber. Does
it have the greater pitch on there? There is a pitch if you look

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at it. It's not flat.Okay. And what's on there now?
Right now? There's shingles. It'sbeen there for at least twenty five years
and there's never been a problem.Yeah, tough one to call if you
get the exact pitch. I mean, there is a point of no return
that a rubber roof would be better. But I fall back on common sense

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to a degree too. If we'vehad shingles on there for a long long
time and never a problem, uh, maybe that's good enough. But if
you you can google, does itsay on that on that quote what that
pitch is in that area? No, it's just described as low pitch.

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They say, yeah, there there, there's I don't know if there's code,
but there probably is. When youget to a certain pitch, they
recommend a rubber roof. I don'tknow what that is without looking that up,
and we don't know what your pitchis. Anyway, I would just
question it with the fact that youknow, what is the problem with that.

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The problem is, you know,maybe snow laying on it, maybe
the melt underneath, maybe wind couldflip those shingles. But I would also
say, well, I've never youknow, is that going to is that
going to neglate my warranty on thisroof? It's you know, the old

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roof's been there and it's been noproblem for twenty five years. I would
just question on it that way,okay, Oh, okay, that's that's
a good a good point okay.And and also one more thing about the
roof is there a difference in thequality of the shingles because you know,
I don't know, you know though, of course they're probably good salesmen for

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their own their own products. Butis the certaintyed a good quality or because
other people say no, it's it'snot, it's a lesser quality. Yeah,
yeah, I mean, gosh,if you're asking me my favorites,

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I like the Owens Corning and Idon't. I don't have a sponsor,
I don't sell. That's just OwensCorning would be my first choice. Second
choice would probably be Certainty, uhyou know there, but there's good roofers
that use Certainty too, I wouldsay, there's still upper Achelon roofing.

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Okay. In other words, they'reboth good quality roofing. I prefer the
Owens Corning a little bit more.And I don't even know if I can
tell you why. I've always usedthem. Find out what the wind rating
is and you know that type ofthing. The installation. I always tell
people a lot of times they'll saywhat shingle should I use? And I

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always say, it's more important tofind the best roofer. He's going to
use what's best for him. AndI think there's a lot of truth in
that, So I really do,because they're going to be the one that
gets the call if things aren't right, and that's the person you're ready to

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deal with, you know what Imean? Yeah? That is true?
Right, Okay, Well this hasbeen super helpful. Thanks good. Very
confusing figuring this out. Yeah,it's amazing, that's for sure. Very
good. Thank you much. Already, all right, let's take a little
break, come back, wrap thingsup for the weekend. You're at home

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they are You're at home with GarySullivan, and we're going to get back
to the phones. And we gotTom Tom Welcome, Good morning, Gary
morning. I was listening to yoursegment on the host Garage Doers. Yes,
sir, and I have a questionfor you. M You have to
do with the cost benefit analysis ofa new garage door versus an old,

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well maintained wooden door. I havea house that's probably close to sixty years
old now and the original garage doorsare still on there, and they've been
well maintained over the years, andaside from you know, periodically replacing the
seal on the bottom of the door, and I think four years ago I

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replaced one of the motors. Imean, they work just fine, and
they you know, they fit tightto the floor and all that. So
my question is, you know,Hope Cully, you know, like you
talk about if it ain't broke,don't fix it. Sure you know.
My question is, you know thecost benefit analysis, you know, the
class of replacing the door. Plusit's a garage under it's unheated. Basically,

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the only thing is they're a junkentwo kas or in the garage.
My question is, you know,is it worth the time and expense to
replace the garage doors for two garagedoers now that basically have nothing wrong with
them other than they're old in theirwood. That's kind of your decision.
You know, when we talked aboutthe return on investment, that's not her

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numbers and that's not my numbers.Usually that's defined by the Remodeling Institute of
America, and garage doors and entrydoors always rate up right around that.
So that's not a phony Bologna number. It really you know. I mean,
if you're comfortable with your garage doors, keep them. What I was

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when I mentioned wood doors, Iremember, well, I used to do
a TV show and we go todifferent things and you know, talk about,
you know, changing out things andfixing things verymoldly. We went to
this one home and it was awood door, and it was not properly
maintained. In fact, the thingwas falling apart, and we talked about,

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you know, why would you waitthis long? You know, you're
diminishing the curb appeal of your home. You're telling me yours isn't diminished.
So would you replace it? Probablynot if it looks fine, it looks
fine, don't replace if it's notbroken. I agree with you. As
far as the energy efficiency, Wood'sa pretty good energy efficient material, but

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it's wood, so there's some shrinking, some expansion throughout the course of the
year. They're leakier than kind ofthe new metal type doors. In fact,
even they still make wood doors.I mean, you could still buy
a really nice wood door. Youcan also buy faux looking wood doors that

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are made of composites. So,you know, I think it's really your
decision. If it's not, youknow, you could probably increase the energy
efficiency of the garage. And youmay be saying, well, I really
don't care about that. You've toldme what's in the garage. Maybe that's
not important. So I think it'slike everything else. I think that's kind
of your decision. New doors arereally good looking, they're really good and

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efficient. A lot of people havebuilder grade doors that they built a house
twenty years ago and they slapped ona you know, a door that isn't
very energy efficient. A lot ofpeople change out the doors now because they're
energy efficient. The more energy efficient, and a lot of people, as
I used as an example, youknow, the maybe a thirty year house

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is the front door on some newersubdivisions homes that are twenty twenty five years
old, and slapping on a newgarage door can really change the appearance of
the house. So use those asfactors for making your decision. Okay,
all right, great, thank youvery much, and you have a wonderful
week. You do the same,Tom. Thanks. All right, let's
get to Herb. Herb welcome.Hey, how are we doing this?

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Afternoon? Almost almost? I knowyou're the Wet and Forget guy because I
am to you on Sundays and Ijust had a new final fence installed around
my property and I noticed a lotof these final fences that they're prone to

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mildew. I'm in Florida, sothere's a lot of humidity, and you
know, it's like every day it'swet and then it's dry and right.
But and I've never used it,but it sounds like it's gonna work.
I'm just concerned that because the fencehas a lot of deep grooves, you
know, and is it gonna workwell enough to where you know it'll keep

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it away where I still don't havethe pressure wash because the flat surface is
good, but down in the groovesit's not. Well. First of all,
I think it would work okay,So the wind Forget a very unique
product, and the story about havingthe grooves in there, I think that

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would be even more reason to useit, to be honest with you,
because you know that's where so ittakes two things. It takes moisture,
and it takes organic material, dust, leaves, whatever. So certainly that's
where the dust and the organic materialis going to settle. And it's also

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where the rain or the moisture orthe dew is going to funnel to.
So that's where you're getting the mold. That's really kind of what's causing the
mildew and the mold. So yeah, I think it would work great.
I think it would work probably asgood. It's gonna work better than anything,
would be my take on it.And you know, once you use

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that, a lot of times thealgae and stuff that you see has is
there before you really see it.So it starts taking roote, if you
will. And you can use thatas a preventive. Now it's not going
to prevent it for five years.It's not going to prevent it for three
years, but they're prevented for ayear. You'll keep it under control.

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You spray that fence down every year. You're not going to have molds or
mildew showing up on that fence.Ever. Well, that would be the
ultimate point me rather than pressure washing. Right now. Oh yeah, yeah,
Now, seeings that it's brand new, it's only two weeks old now
right, and they came and unwrapped. It's brand new. It hasn't been

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exposed to anything. Is there anykind of press you think I could do?
Nope, I'd next summer, I'dgo ahead and spray it and be
done with it. It No needto spray when it spran new. But
or what you could do is justlet it go till you start seeing that
little haze on there, that littlegreenish tint, and then spray it.

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Then spray it every year after that, and you'll have a maintenance virtually maintenance
free fence. I mean you canget the hose en attachment for the wedd
and forget and literally get it takencare of, never have to scrub it.
That's my philosophy on that one.I'm all about easy, and so
is that project. Danny boy.Thank you very much, great job and

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good Lord Willing. We'll be backnext weekend for more at Home with Gary
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