December 28, 2024 • 41 mins
Gary wraps up Sunday with your calls and his expert tips.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, best time of the day is saying good
afternoon and welcome now our number four at home with
Gary Salvin, taking you through this holiday weekend, talking a
little home improvement. Not a bad looking day out there
right now. Be excited about fifty four minutes I can
get outside and take a walk around my home. Kind
of encourage you a little bit about doing that. And
(00:21):
while we got nice weather. Looks like over the next.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Same year, it's sixty degrees according to temeture here.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's gonna be a walk around the outside of the
house today. Very nice to walk through the neighborhood. Nice day, absolutely,
and it sounds like a come Wednesday. And the weather
gods are going to change on us for a few weeks,
maybe the whole month, so winter will be coming.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's Ohio weather.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It always bounces back for it, sure.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Does, all right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Our phone numbers eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. If you've been listening, try to get through.
Go ahead, we've got a spot for you. And let's
lead things off with Jamie Amy.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Welcome, good morning. How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Gary? Afternoon now, man, time's flying.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
All it is is a minute afternoon. Yes, we listened
to you every Saturday morning. My husband and I and
we live in Macedonia, Ohio, which is just north of Akron.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
All the weather conditions, right, you sure do?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah. I got a question. We had a new deck
installed in September and you were talking earlier to somebody
about a PI. Yeah, how do you spell that?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
D e f y d e f y?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Where do you purchase that?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Do it best hardware stores? And you got a big
one up there in Heartfield Hardware?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yes, yes, we do half hour from.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Here, and you might check with them because they only
have them do it best hardware stores or online? So
Heartfield show do it best?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Okay, all right, I've never heard of that, but I've
heard of Harvey. I've been there.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, so it's a great hardware store. Oh it is a.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Fabul It's just been hard anyway. So now that I
know where to purchase it, my question is do I
have to uh did you say it was a clear
stain or does it have any color to it?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
DeFi wood Stains has a whole line of deck stains
with They make it clear, they make it cedar, they
make it brown, they make it in gray, they make
it in a gold, oak, so there's maybe five six
different colors. Like most deck stains, it is a penetrating stain,
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a semi semi transparent penetrating stain, which gives you an
extra year's where the life versus most deck stains.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Okay, all right, that answers that question. How do you
apply this by a roller or block?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You can do it by a roller.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
They also have a deck stain applicator, which is phenomenal.
It's not really a roller. It's almost like a a
pad I would get. I would get their applicator. It's
going to save you a ton of time even over
a roller.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Okay, all right, deck stands applicator. How many coats do
you think?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Two cod fresh wood?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, you do two codes. So the correct application of that,
even though it's fresh wood, when you do this, probably
next spring, you'll want to use the deck cleaner, which
is an oxygenated bleach. The defied deck cleaner. It's a powder.
You mix it with water, you spray it on you.
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Let's sit about ten minutes, take a big old streak broom,
add tate it, hose it off, and then I want
you to use a deck brightener they have that also
defies deck brightener. And what that is is it's a
oxalic acid, which is for wood. And what it does
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is it opens up the pores of the wood which
allows deep penetration of the stain. Very easy to do.
It's a liquid mixed with water. Put it on, let
it sit, scrub rinse it off. Preps pretty easy. And
then two hours after you do that, you can start
applying the stain and you work in like, you know,
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maybe twenty square foot area and you do that, and
then you put the second coat right on top of it,
so it's wet on wet, and then you go to
the next ten square feet or twenty square feet, put
a coat on, put another coat on, and move to
the next. So pretty and with that deck applicator, it
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makes it very easy to do.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
And now, since as you know, Ohio, if we have
crazy weather, so what in the spring, what should we
wait until we have all the well you never have
all the bad weather in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, I wouldn't wait till the fourth of July. But
if you get a nice weekend in May, i'd do
it then.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Okay, that's that's what I was wondering.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
How soon?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
All right, all right, all right, all right, very good,
Thank you sir. We love your show.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
All right, then let's go to Gary, Gary, Welcome, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I had a question about it insulating a two story
detached garage. Okay, at the top of it's kind of
gambrel roof. It's a metal building, and it's for a
kind of a shop, and I ended up having it
sprayed with spray home.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
But my question is that in the floor there's a
lot of cold comes up through the floor, and I
didn't know if i'd be better off just enslate the
whole bottom floor as well.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So tell me what the floor is. So tell me
what the floor is.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
The deck is OSB and then it had a book
hardwood floor on.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Top of it, okay, And what do we have underneath?
Just dart any slab.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's a concrete slab on the lower floor.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, well yeah, really yeah. I mean legitimately, you wouldn't
need to put anything in there. But if you want
to create a buffer for sound and cold from radiating
from the slab, and you got a slab underneath the
elevated wood floor, you could you could have you could
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have that phae.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah I had. I had the price for the phone
do that, and I couldn't afford it. I don't put
like a foam board or something if I did it
on my own.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Can you get to it to do that?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh yeah, it's a full second floor.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh okay, I missed that part.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Sure, the bottom level of the garage. There's doors to
go to the bottom.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I got you, I gotcha. Yep, yep, yep, I got you.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So it's kind of like a bank barn situation, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So you could sure, you could use any type of insulation,
might even be worth putting in one with a vapor
barrier up against the underside of that floor. Vapor bearrier
butting up against the floor. The joye that got these
little spring wires that straddle the in the id part
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of the joys to hold it in place. That'd be fine.
You could also use foam if you want to go
that route, pham boards. The insulation that I just described
is going to give you about for every R one,
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it's about an inch and a half of thickness, So
three and a half three three and a half's about it.
You know, maybe an R three or four something like that,
So try to get to an R nineteen if you can.
It doesn't have to, but any bit helps, is that?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Will that do me better on the top than just
inslating the walls in the bottom floor?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well yeah, you see, you're but to insulate the wall.
You can do the walls, Okay, I mean you can
do the walls. I don't think the bottom floor is
going to help you much. But if you wanted to
do the walls and then before you do the underside
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of the floor to see if that helps, you know,
what's probably killing you is the ight the doors.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, so dres then it's a metal building, so
the size of the siding. Yeah, the wind kind of
drifts right in.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So you know, like if that didn't have a slab there,
you would do what they call total encapsulation, like if
it's a crawl space where they would you know, encapsulate
everything and they wouldn't worry about the underside of the floor.
They did encapsulate the walls, the floor and everything. But
you really can't do that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, So what.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'm saying, if you want to minimize, you could do
the walls and then do the underside of the floor.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Okay, Thank you all right, good enough, Thank you for
the call.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Appreciate it. Yeah, that's a little bit of a challenge,
but certainly can be taken care of. All right, Melinda,
Dan and Helen, please sit tight. We'll take a little break.
We'll come back get your questions answered. If you'd like
to join us, do so. Two spots for you. It's
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. You're
at home with Gary Salvent right here in fifty five
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k see the talk station. All right, back at it
we go, twelve twenty it is, and you're at home
with Gary Salvin taking your calls regarding your home projects,
either picking up, cleaning up and getting the house back
in order, if you will, or whether it's next year's project.
Happy to hear from you again. Our phone numbers eight
(10:25):
hundred eight two three eight two five five. And let's
go to Melinda. Melinda, welcome, good afternoon.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Gary. You're part of my Saturday rituals.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well, thank you, appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
I was calling in regards for some recommendations for the
lady that was using the bruce With floor cleaner that
they don't make any longer, uh huh. And I have
used the men wax hard floor reviver. I'm over in Richmond, Indiana,
about an hour from you guys, and I actually did
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that in my art galley and gifts store as well
as at my home, and I've been very pleased with
it and very easy to use.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'm familiar with that product. I've used it myself. And
I was also looking at a product called Bona. I
don't know if you're familiar with that, I am.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
I actually our family used to own a forecovering business
for about thirty years and I used the Bona as
a cleaner.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Right right, And they also now have a Oh, I
guess it's kind of I think that the name or
the wording they use now as a restore okay, and
that it's real similar to the min wax which I
have used also, So yeah, I was thinking about that
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when I was talking. I was a little unsure of
whether that would add the protection. I know it adds
the restoration of a wood floor. Especially used to have
it when we had a wood floor with kids in
a table with chairs and kitchen. It would always get
warn that I'd always put that on there and it
would revive it. It would look at make it look nice.
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I was a little concerned about the whole waxing angle
of things that she was about.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
I had it in a you know, the commercial application
in my business, and it just it looked fabulous. It
reminded you of a historic library, the finish that it had,
and it held up to the traffic well. And for this,
since she's used to the Bruce, I know that if
she goes to an independent floor covering business, a small business,
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they usually have the care products there and they do
sell Bona at those locations, and they may even have
something similar to the Bruce product that she had used
with the current wood floors.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, I thank you. I just kind of scoured real
quick during one of the breaks, and there's so much
different brands and different things, things that you'd have to
really read on my backgrounds in the hardware industry, and
we used to sew a lot of the tree Wax products,
the paste and also the liquids. And I found the paste.
(13:13):
It popped up right away. And I don't know if
tree Wax makes a liquid hardwood floor wax anymore. Bruce.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
I wouldn't be familiar with that either.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, So I think if she did a little well
probably a little more than a little research she could
find what she was using with Bruce. I feel pretty
certain there's a comparable product. She sound like she really
wanted to stay with that.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Right, right. And that's where I would say if she
wanted to stay, because that's what I gathered from her,
And if she wanted to stay with a product like Bruce,
I would recommend going to a floor covering business because
that's where you that's where you bought Bruce, right, and
they would have that. And another recommendation for anybody you know,
with wood floors or any type of floor as far
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as that goes, when you do your cleaning, you know,
make sure you're cleaning product. And Bona, as you said,
is an excellent product. And when you do that, get
something that's not going to hold a residue because a
lot of times, like these slippers and stuff, they kind
of leave a residue on your floor, which dolls out
your floor, right, right, So your maintenance is as important
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as your protection.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Well, you know, obviously you're well versed in Florida. One
of the biggest things with like some of the laminates
and stuff is the coatings on that versus the cleaners
that are used in terms of whether they're pH neutral
or two alkaline or too acidic, and then you get
that white haze on there, and then then it looks
(14:49):
awful exactly.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
And going back to the Bona product, they actually make
a product strictly for laminates and vinyls, and then they
also have a product made for wood force yep, and
just a clean sweep up. Because I know when we
had our business there was we had clients that says, oh,
I want more of a shine on my remember the
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old Armstrong Hilarians, Yes, and oh I want more of
a shine and a luster on it, and they would
go buy mop and glow and they would put it
on there. Well, it already has a pre finish on it,
and when they did that, it completely destroyed the finish
on it and would clouded.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Up and then you can't get it all.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
No always, but we were able to sell a new.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Floor right.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
All the things we have to know now exactly.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
So maintenance is just as important as the refinishing. And
I just wanted to kind of get her recommendations.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I appreciate it, and I think she was honest too.
She goes, I think I probably let it go a
little too long before I really needed it protected. So
I think she'll find something out. And if she does,
you know, get somebody in there that does hardwoods. It'll
probably makes some suggestions to her, quite honestly. And in
some cases it might be you know, if it's a
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really dirty and in kind of bed shape, maybe it's
just something that they can with the new equipment that
they have for revitalizing floors.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Absolutely, all right, Melinda, thank you, thank you, and you
enjoy this weather. We're having the same over here in
Indiana until Wednesday, the same as yours coming.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think winter is going to arrive.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
It is a happy new Year.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Happy new year to you. Thank you for the call.
Appreciate it all right.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Twelve twenty six.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Our phone numbers eight hundred and eight two three eight
two five five grab a line Helen.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Welcome, Hi, Hi here, Hello, yeah, thanks for taking my call.
I live templarily, I hope, in a school family apartment
like you see your Cincinnati and northern Kentucky, and it's
hardly worth. Christmas Eve and Christmas night, somebody was smoking
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heavily in the buildings, and I'm not sure that it
was tobacco, and I and by, so that was too
nice for that before I could get hold of the
brand boarder to put a stuff to it. Because this
is a no smoking building, it says right on there.
The smell permeated I think it was upstairs, and it
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permeated down into my apartments. I have had my mattress
and box brings for eleven months. It is permeated deep
into my mattress. Of course, every article of clothing stinks
like smoke, all paperwork, and I don't know where to
start first to try to get rid of this. I'm
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sickest about my mattress because he really when I moved
in here, you know, I didn't buy anything of any value,
but I had you have to buy a back box
bring and mattress at times, so I did. So I've
already thrown away it's it's really, it's really heartbreaking. I've
thrown away uh, paperwork that I don't have to have.
I'm storing the rest in plastic. You know, your your
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your financial papers and all that I have thrown away,
throw pills, anything you can't put in the washing machine.
And of course every article of clothing is looking uh
and it's threatening to get in my car I keep,
you know, uh up at a new clothes on and
wash my hair before I go to the car. This
is being going out for like three days now, so
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I so what happens is of course I washed my
sheets as I washed the bedding, the mattress pad and
all that. But you I don't put the matter stand
back on because I know the mattress is waking. So
every morning you have to go through the same process.
So I have a couple of questions. Number one, where
should I start? First? While I've been waiting, I had
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been wiping down the wallboards in the living room with
street nager. That's too strong, let me know. But I'm
wiping that down. That'll wash the windows. But the air
is contaminated. So two questions. Number one, where do I start?
Should I look at lifel and spray to try and
change the air.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
For liol I'm gonna do it now. You would start
with cleaning everything, and it sounds like you've got a
head start on that. And that means the walls and
everything else. It sounds like you got a head start
on that. I don't know. If Vininger is your best
I'd probably use like a trisodium phosphate non rints, and
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I would wash down the walls. If there's car I
wash down the floors. If there's carpets, you're going to
have to clean the carpets.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Carpet carpet.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Okay, as far as the air, that's exactly what you
got to do because it's gonna linger. And there's different
things like ozone machines that would you know, eliminates that smell.
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There's a product called odor exit and they have one
which produces a chlorine dioxide gas that kills that odor,
that kills. Now, you got to get as much of
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the gunk off you know, the walls and the floors
and the you know, everything you were you've been working on.
You got to do that first. And then I think
your choices. You have like three choices. You can get
some you can either rent or buy some ozone machines.
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You can you can I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
But what kind of cost is that going to be
to me?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I don't know. I'd renom but I don't know what
they cost. And I don't even know the size. You
should know about the size of the condo or you
know unit you can also the the odor exit that
I'm speaking of You can either call them or go online.
(21:21):
It's O D O r X I T. And I
think it's like what it is is a little packet.
It works well. I've used it in cars. I haven't
used it in a room used in a car with
where somebody had been smoking. You saturate to pack it
with water, clip it to a fan and you blow
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that around and it really does. It will eliminate smoke issues.
And it's like forty to fifty bucks for that, and
you're probably gonna have to do it for a while.
And then the other you know, I don't think insurance
is going to cover any of that. But the other
thing is there are people that specialize in smoke odors
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that would be the most expensive.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Okay, this odor exit now, there's nothing like toxic to that.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
No no, no, no no. All you'll get is maybe
a whiff of a chlorine smell, but it's non toxic.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Where do I can I buy this?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
You've got to get it online. There are some stores
that carry it. Ace Hardwares and it's O D O
r X it dot com.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I think That's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, it will help. It does a good job and
you can call them also. Then I'm sure they'll be
there Monday. I think it's eight seven seven Odor Exit.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Oh, okay, calling me exact.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
People that make it right? Right, they're right in the
in the in the Fairfield area.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Okay, So today you would you would you continue what
I'm going to wipe all the windows and down on
everything today. But I guess I should do that and
then try wiping off my mattress again. See, I'm afraid
I'm gonna wash the mattress so much it's gonna get
molded it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, I you know, the mattress has got me a
little bit stumped. I don't know. I think the odor
Exit I would put that matt I would put that
otor exit in that room and it will take the
smell out of the mattress. I think I would lean
to that more than I would trying to clean the mattress.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Okay, I'm going to buy that today. You think I
can get it at a hardware I would.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Go on their website and even call, uh the Odor Exit.
See if they pick it up. If not, I'm trying
to Yeah, pick it up?
Speaker 6 (23:50):
You mean, so we'll see if they answer today?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah? Yeah, Okay, and go on their website. This packet again,
it's a packet. They got a lot of phraise. They
got one called Eliminator, they got one called Magic. But
the one you want is the actual packet that you
wet and clip it to a fan and it's designed.
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But go to their website first, take a look at
the Odor Exit packet. And also there's one called Mom's
Moms and just read on that see which one's going
to fit your needs the best, and give them a call.
If they answer the phone, they will talk to you
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and they will coach you through the whole thing. There's
also probably a store locator on that website.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Okay, all right, all right, Gerry, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
All right, good luck. I can hear the frustration. Let's
take a little break, Dan, you'll be up first when
we come back. If you'd like to join us, do so.
It's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
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Speaker 3 (25:05):
All right, back at it.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
We go at home with Gary Sullivan taking your calls
regarding your home projects. And let's get to Dan.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Dan, welcome, good happening, Gary, Yes, sir, how.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Are you good? Good?
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Hey, I missed part of your presentation earlier today. You
were talking to a young lady about mold on shingles,
and I didn't get the product that she was using
or you were recommending to use on shingles to get
rid of that kill that mold.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, So let's make sure that's what you have. When
you have the shingles, you got these black streaks on it.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
No, I got kind of like under an overhang. It's
like a green moss or mold or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
So somebody get enough sun light there to keep the
shingles dry.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Okay. So so the the product that we were talking
about requires some sunlight, okay. So in order to make
it work and be effective, it needs moisture and some sunlight.
So the UV raises the sun and the moisture activate
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this product, which kills mold, mildew, algae, liken, fungus, those
types of you know, problems if it. So I got
to make sure that's going to get some sunshine. Some
doesn't need much, it needs bright Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
It done the north side of the building. So you
know this time of year, it doesn't get any sunlight
since the sun is down in the south, but you know,
in the summertime then it comes back to the north
and then it gets plenty of sunshine.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Okay, well yet, all right, So the name of the
product as called Wet and Forget and wet and Forget
it comes several ways. You can get it in a
concentrate that you can mix it in a tank sprayer
and then wet down the problem area. Or Wet and
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Forget comes with an attachment that can go right on
a hose. It can spray about twenty five feet, covers
about two thousand square feet and it's you know, you
literally do what it says, you wet it and forget it. Now.
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It takes like six to eight weeks and it just
will disappear. It will just kill that mildew, fungus, et cetera.
You can use it in winter, you can use it
in the summer. It's probably or it's going to work
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more rapidly in the summer. Probably work more rapidly in
the spring because in the summer you got a lot
of sunshine, you got some rain hopefully, but you got
a lot of evaporation. In the winter time. You could
have snow on that roof and cover it up your
sun your uv raisor lower. The sun is harder to
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get to as you described, I would use it next May,
and again, very easy to use. And you don't want
to get up there with anything that's going to cause
loss of the shingle protection that granular product that's on
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the surface of the shingles. Uh, So you don't want
to describe, you don't want to use pressure washers. I
mean it's the perfect product for that. Okay, excellent, all right,
you're quite welcome, thank you, and taking that a step further.
Like I said, right now, as I'm sitting here, the
sun's out, it's a beautiful day, and we have beautiful days.
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Last week it was cold, but we had some bright
sunny days. So there is enough sun to activate the
wet and forget during the wintertime, and we certainly have
plenty of gloomy days in rain also, so we've got
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enough to get it, you know, going if you will.
The only issue would be as if we had a
really snowy winter and the shingles were covered up and
couldn't get the sunshine, and it would just delay how
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long you know, it would take to work. But then
again we wouldn't be looking at it right. I mean
it would be covered with snow. So I'm not saying
it can't work right now. It will work. It will work.
It's going to take longer or something like that. But
if you wanted to wait and knock that out in
April and May, it probably wouldn't be any problem around here.
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Plenty of sunshine, plenty of rain that period of time.
And in the summertime if you're thinking about using that,
remember you get a day out there that's really sunny
in ninety degrees and you go out there and apply
the wet and forget the evaporation off a hot roof,
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you're going to end up putting more on there than
you would if you did it right now or in
the wintertime. So ideally there's always an ideal time. Now
all it works year round, but ideally you'd really be
looking at getting that project done, you know, eighty seventy
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eighty degrees outside with plenty of sunshine and no wind,
because you don't want to be having it blow and
not get on the surface either. So I see people
all the time that want to try that stuff, and
or they want to try an oxygenated bleach and I
get it. I've recommended it before. That's all there was,
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and you can use that, but you're mixing with water,
you're spraying it on, you're letting it sit, and then
at some point you have to agitate a little bit.
Probably the best way is a pressure washer less than
six hundred psi because the grains that are on the
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top of that shingle, that's protecting the core of that shingle,
that's what's protecting it from the sun, and that's what
breaks down a shingle. And if you get up there
and start hitting that with a street broom or hitting
that with a regular pressure washer, you'll take literally years
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and years and years of life off that shingle. Because
that's how shingles fail. That's how you tell that your
roof is failing. As if your gutters have got a
you know, an inch of granular protection from the shingle
laying in the gutter, you've decreased the life of the shingle.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
All right, to our phone number if you'd like to
grab a.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Line, it's eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five and we'll come back and if there's a call,
well we'll take it. If there's not, I've got some
tips for you, and then we'll wrap things up with
our friend Danny Boy, who's at the control center. You're
at home with Gary Salvin right here on fifty five
krc DE talk station. All right, Uh, back at it.
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We go at home with Gary Selvin as we well
kind of wrap up a year next week when we started,
it'll be the beginning. I think I gotta do the math.
I think it's the beginning of my thirty eighth year
of doing this show.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
But I want to I mean, you started when I
was nine.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, I'm trying to think, yeah, starting a six Yeah,
so been doing it for a few years, just a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
So.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
The weather's great right now, it looks beautiful. I've talked
several times a day about really taking that walk around
the home, and you're probably tired of me talking about that.
But the one thing when you look at the forecast,
the long range forecast for our area in January now
is cold and snow and probably even colder in February.
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From what I'm seeing. Whether it's right or wrong, who knows,
but starting Wednesday, it does look like colder weather and
certainly winter is going to return to our area. So
the question always is how prepared are you? And I
can talk about looking for exposed pipes, and probably not
a bad idea to look for exposed pipes and get
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some pipeer app on them, get them protected for there's
no freezing, but also ice melters, snow shovels. It's probably
been a while. This is not an alarm like watch out, folks.
This is just being prepared and kind of revisiting some information.
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It's been a while since we've had quote a snow
a year, and I don't know if we're gonna be
able a snow a year or not, but it does
sound like we could have a good chance. So a
lot of times I get questions about concrete that is spawling,
the surface is popping off, and a lot of times
I'll say, well, do you use ice melters? Because ice
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melters as a general category certainly can be a cause
to some of the spawling that we find in concrete.
And there's many different types of ice melters. And where
we really get stamped, quite honestly, is when you get
into blended melters. And I was talking to some manufacturers
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about a month ago, and I go like I really
hate I get why you do it, or I thought
I got why they did it. And that was my
rationale was why manufacturers make blended ice melters is to
keep costs down. And this guy did not appreciate my
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comment and went on to correct me and say, well, really,
what it is. It's about balanced performance, and I what
So if you have no ice melters in your home
right now, let's get a small bag and have them
have it ready for some snow. So let's go through
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the different kinds. The first kind is sodium chloride, right,
rock salt. That's good for your budget, at least initially.
It's certainly does a great job of taking care of
melting snow and ice, but really works only above twenty degrees.
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So when we get those real cold nights and everything
freezes up, rock salt's not your answer. It is inexpensive,
it is widely available, but it's also the most corrosive
ice melter you can get, so that is the culprit
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in many cases of the concrete damage is the rouxel.
So then you got calcium chloride. Calcium chloride that's great
for extremely cold temperatures. It'll melt ice all the way
down to negative twenty five. It works quick, you don't
use much. It's not as harsh on concrete as the
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rock salt, but it can be harsh to concrete vegetation
because people usually overapply it. It doesn't take much of it.
Then there's magnesium chloride. It's kind of the one I like.
Magnesium chloride is probably one of the safer products you
can use. It's certainly more gentle on concrete. It's also
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safe with pets, vegetation like your lawn, and I guess
you know. So it's safe and it melts down to
about I think it's fifteen below zero on up, so
it's got for our area. It's got plenty of melting
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properties of ice, and it's really one of the safer
ones to use. So that's the one I like. That's
the magnesium chloride. Then let's go to the blended ice melters,
because this is where I think people get in trouble. Now,
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my manufacturer friend that corrected me. He didn't think so,
and that's fine. But what I see is it's a
blend of rock salt and calcium chloride, or rock salt
and potassium chloride, which potassium clorid that's great for mild winners,
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safe on vegetation, works on fifteen degrees on up. But
it's a blend of all this stuff. And really what
it is is it's the people I think think they're
buying the calcium chloride, the you know, pretty safe, or
the magnesium chloride real safe, but it's got rock salt
in it. So remember the rock salt is the most
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corrosive and least expensive. And when you start blending and
the better stuff with the cheap stuff, the rock salt,
you get that price down where you know, a bag
of what you think is harmless the concrete down to
around three bucks instead of the six or eight bucks
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for the calcium chlorine. But it's got rock salt into
so make sure you know what you're buying and treated accordingly.
I wouldn't put rock salt on anything that's concrete. And
if you got new concrete, no ice melters for two years.
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And another little tip here is if you've used any
ice melter, and especially I'll keep going back there, especially
if you used any rock salt. After it melts the
ice or after it laser and after it's rained a
little bit, you start having a white haze over the
concrete and then maybe you get a little sprinkle a
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rain or a little morning dew or frost that reactivates
that salt, and what you end up with is a
very salty brine solution laying on your concrete, which is corrosive.
And that's exactly what we're gonna want to avoid. So
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cleaning up the after powder of corrosive ice melters with
a broom and then flush the driveway when above freezing
is a good way to make it less corrossive. But
if it sits there, that film sits there all year
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and keeps getting wetted down by morning dew in drizzle. Man,
that stuff stays grosser for a long time and really
can do damage to the concrete and especially in the garage.
That's something you could sweep up and flush out pretty easily.
So let's make sure that we don't do any damage
while preventing any falls. Okay, So that's going to wrap up,
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not only today, is going to wrap up my new year. Yay,
Danny boy, Thank you very much, not only for the
day but all year long. It's been a pleasure and
good teamwork. And hope everybody enjoys the show and as
we get into twenty twenty five, I hope everybody continues
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to participate as we sit around the desk and talk
a little home improvement each and every year. So good
Lord Willing, we'll be back in the new year. You're
at home with Garry Sullivan.
All right, best time of the day is saying good
afternoon and welcome now our number four at home with
Gary Salvin, taking you through this holiday weekend, talking a
little home improvement. Not a bad looking day out there
right now. Be excited about fifty four minutes I can
get outside and take a walk around my home. Kind
of encourage you a little bit about doing that. And
(00:21):
while we got nice weather. Looks like over the next.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Same year, it's sixty degrees according to temeture here.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's gonna be a walk around the outside of the
house today. Very nice to walk through the neighborhood. Nice day, absolutely,
and it sounds like a come Wednesday. And the weather
gods are going to change on us for a few weeks,
maybe the whole month, so winter will be coming.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's Ohio weather.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It always bounces back for it, sure.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Does, all right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Our phone numbers eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. If you've been listening, try to get through.
Go ahead, we've got a spot for you. And let's
lead things off with Jamie Amy.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Welcome, good morning. How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Gary? Afternoon now, man, time's flying.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
All it is is a minute afternoon. Yes, we listened
to you every Saturday morning. My husband and I and
we live in Macedonia, Ohio, which is just north of Akron.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
All the weather conditions, right, you sure do?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah. I got a question. We had a new deck
installed in September and you were talking earlier to somebody
about a PI. Yeah, how do you spell that?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
D e f y d e f y?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Where do you purchase that?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Do it best hardware stores? And you got a big
one up there in Heartfield Hardware?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yes, yes, we do half hour from.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Here, and you might check with them because they only
have them do it best hardware stores or online? So
Heartfield show do it best?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Okay, all right, I've never heard of that, but I've
heard of Harvey. I've been there.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, so it's a great hardware store. Oh it is a.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Fabul It's just been hard anyway. So now that I
know where to purchase it, my question is do I
have to uh did you say it was a clear
stain or does it have any color to it?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
DeFi wood Stains has a whole line of deck stains
with They make it clear, they make it cedar, they
make it brown, they make it in gray, they make
it in a gold, oak, so there's maybe five six
different colors. Like most deck stains, it is a penetrating stain,
(02:48):
a semi semi transparent penetrating stain, which gives you an
extra year's where the life versus most deck stains.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Okay, all right, that answers that question. How do you
apply this by a roller or block?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You can do it by a roller.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
They also have a deck stain applicator, which is phenomenal.
It's not really a roller. It's almost like a a
pad I would get. I would get their applicator. It's
going to save you a ton of time even over
a roller.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Okay, all right, deck stands applicator. How many coats do
you think?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Two cod fresh wood?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, you do two codes. So the correct application of that,
even though it's fresh wood, when you do this, probably
next spring, you'll want to use the deck cleaner, which
is an oxygenated bleach. The defied deck cleaner. It's a powder.
You mix it with water, you spray it on you.
(03:55):
Let's sit about ten minutes, take a big old streak broom,
add tate it, hose it off, and then I want
you to use a deck brightener they have that also
defies deck brightener. And what that is is it's a
oxalic acid, which is for wood. And what it does
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is it opens up the pores of the wood which
allows deep penetration of the stain. Very easy to do.
It's a liquid mixed with water. Put it on, let
it sit, scrub rinse it off. Preps pretty easy. And
then two hours after you do that, you can start
applying the stain and you work in like, you know,
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maybe twenty square foot area and you do that, and
then you put the second coat right on top of it,
so it's wet on wet, and then you go to
the next ten square feet or twenty square feet, put
a coat on, put another coat on, and move to
the next. So pretty and with that deck applicator, it
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makes it very easy to do.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
And now, since as you know, Ohio, if we have
crazy weather, so what in the spring, what should we
wait until we have all the well you never have
all the bad weather in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, I wouldn't wait till the fourth of July. But
if you get a nice weekend in May, i'd do
it then.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Okay, that's that's what I was wondering.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
How soon?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
All right, all right, all right, all right, very good,
Thank you sir. We love your show.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
All right, then let's go to Gary, Gary, Welcome, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I had a question about it insulating a two story
detached garage. Okay, at the top of it's kind of
gambrel roof. It's a metal building, and it's for a
kind of a shop, and I ended up having it
sprayed with spray home.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
But my question is that in the floor there's a
lot of cold comes up through the floor, and I
didn't know if i'd be better off just enslate the
whole bottom floor as well.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So tell me what the floor is. So tell me
what the floor is.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
The deck is OSB and then it had a book
hardwood floor on.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Top of it, okay, And what do we have underneath?
Just dart any slab.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's a concrete slab on the lower floor.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, well yeah, really yeah. I mean legitimately, you wouldn't
need to put anything in there. But if you want
to create a buffer for sound and cold from radiating
from the slab, and you got a slab underneath the
elevated wood floor, you could you could have you could
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have that phae.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah I had. I had the price for the phone
do that, and I couldn't afford it. I don't put
like a foam board or something if I did it
on my own.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Can you get to it to do that?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh yeah, it's a full second floor.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh okay, I missed that part.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Sure, the bottom level of the garage. There's doors to
go to the bottom.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I got you, I gotcha. Yep, yep, yep, I got you.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So it's kind of like a bank barn situation, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So you could sure, you could use any type of insulation,
might even be worth putting in one with a vapor
barrier up against the underside of that floor. Vapor bearrier
butting up against the floor. The joye that got these
little spring wires that straddle the in the id part
(07:48):
of the joys to hold it in place. That'd be fine.
You could also use foam if you want to go
that route, pham boards. The insulation that I just described
is going to give you about for every R one,
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it's about an inch and a half of thickness, So
three and a half three three and a half's about it.
You know, maybe an R three or four something like that,
So try to get to an R nineteen if you can.
It doesn't have to, but any bit helps, is that?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Will that do me better on the top than just
inslating the walls in the bottom floor?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well yeah, you see, you're but to insulate the wall.
You can do the walls, Okay, I mean you can
do the walls. I don't think the bottom floor is
going to help you much. But if you wanted to
do the walls and then before you do the underside
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of the floor to see if that helps, you know,
what's probably killing you is the ight the doors.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, so dres then it's a metal building, so
the size of the siding. Yeah, the wind kind of
drifts right in.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So you know, like if that didn't have a slab there,
you would do what they call total encapsulation, like if
it's a crawl space where they would you know, encapsulate
everything and they wouldn't worry about the underside of the floor.
They did encapsulate the walls, the floor and everything. But
you really can't do that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, So what.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'm saying, if you want to minimize, you could do
the walls and then do the underside of the floor.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Okay, Thank you all right, good enough, Thank you for
the call.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Appreciate it. Yeah, that's a little bit of a challenge,
but certainly can be taken care of. All right, Melinda,
Dan and Helen, please sit tight. We'll take a little break.
We'll come back get your questions answered. If you'd like
to join us, do so. Two spots for you. It's
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. You're
at home with Gary Salvent right here in fifty five
(10:05):
k see the talk station. All right, back at it
we go, twelve twenty it is, and you're at home
with Gary Salvin taking your calls regarding your home projects,
either picking up, cleaning up and getting the house back
in order, if you will, or whether it's next year's project.
Happy to hear from you again. Our phone numbers eight
(10:25):
hundred eight two three eight two five five. And let's
go to Melinda. Melinda, welcome, good afternoon.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Gary. You're part of my Saturday rituals.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well, thank you, appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
I was calling in regards for some recommendations for the
lady that was using the bruce With floor cleaner that
they don't make any longer, uh huh. And I have
used the men wax hard floor reviver. I'm over in Richmond, Indiana,
about an hour from you guys, and I actually did
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that in my art galley and gifts store as well
as at my home, and I've been very pleased with
it and very easy to use.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'm familiar with that product. I've used it myself. And
I was also looking at a product called Bona. I
don't know if you're familiar with that, I am.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
I actually our family used to own a forecovering business
for about thirty years and I used the Bona as
a cleaner.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Right right, And they also now have a Oh, I
guess it's kind of I think that the name or
the wording they use now as a restore okay, and
that it's real similar to the min wax which I
have used also, So yeah, I was thinking about that
(11:44):
when I was talking. I was a little unsure of
whether that would add the protection. I know it adds
the restoration of a wood floor. Especially used to have
it when we had a wood floor with kids in
a table with chairs and kitchen. It would always get
warn that I'd always put that on there and it
would revive it. It would look at make it look nice.
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I was a little concerned about the whole waxing angle
of things that she was about.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
I had it in a you know, the commercial application
in my business, and it just it looked fabulous. It
reminded you of a historic library, the finish that it had,
and it held up to the traffic well. And for this,
since she's used to the Bruce, I know that if
she goes to an independent floor covering business, a small business,
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they usually have the care products there and they do
sell Bona at those locations, and they may even have
something similar to the Bruce product that she had used
with the current wood floors.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, I thank you. I just kind of scoured real
quick during one of the breaks, and there's so much
different brands and different things, things that you'd have to
really read on my backgrounds in the hardware industry, and
we used to sew a lot of the tree Wax products,
the paste and also the liquids. And I found the paste.
(13:13):
It popped up right away. And I don't know if
tree Wax makes a liquid hardwood floor wax anymore. Bruce.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
I wouldn't be familiar with that either.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, So I think if she did a little well
probably a little more than a little research she could
find what she was using with Bruce. I feel pretty
certain there's a comparable product. She sound like she really
wanted to stay with that.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Right, right. And that's where I would say if she
wanted to stay, because that's what I gathered from her,
And if she wanted to stay with a product like Bruce,
I would recommend going to a floor covering business because
that's where you that's where you bought Bruce, right, and
they would have that. And another recommendation for anybody you know,
with wood floors or any type of floor as far
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as that goes, when you do your cleaning, you know,
make sure you're cleaning product. And Bona, as you said,
is an excellent product. And when you do that, get
something that's not going to hold a residue because a
lot of times, like these slippers and stuff, they kind
of leave a residue on your floor, which dolls out
your floor, right, right, So your maintenance is as important
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as your protection.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Well, you know, obviously you're well versed in Florida. One
of the biggest things with like some of the laminates
and stuff is the coatings on that versus the cleaners
that are used in terms of whether they're pH neutral
or two alkaline or too acidic, and then you get
that white haze on there, and then then it looks
(14:49):
awful exactly.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
And going back to the Bona product, they actually make
a product strictly for laminates and vinyls, and then they
also have a product made for wood force yep, and
just a clean sweep up. Because I know when we
had our business there was we had clients that says, oh,
I want more of a shine on my remember the
(15:13):
old Armstrong Hilarians, Yes, and oh I want more of
a shine and a luster on it, and they would
go buy mop and glow and they would put it
on there. Well, it already has a pre finish on it,
and when they did that, it completely destroyed the finish
on it and would clouded.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Up and then you can't get it all.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
No always, but we were able to sell a new.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Floor right.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
All the things we have to know now exactly.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
So maintenance is just as important as the refinishing. And
I just wanted to kind of get her recommendations.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I appreciate it, and I think she was honest too.
She goes, I think I probably let it go a
little too long before I really needed it protected. So
I think she'll find something out. And if she does,
you know, get somebody in there that does hardwoods. It'll
probably makes some suggestions to her, quite honestly. And in
some cases it might be you know, if it's a
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really dirty and in kind of bed shape, maybe it's
just something that they can with the new equipment that
they have for revitalizing floors.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Absolutely, all right, Melinda, thank you, thank you, and you
enjoy this weather. We're having the same over here in
Indiana until Wednesday, the same as yours coming.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think winter is going to arrive.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
It is a happy new Year.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Happy new year to you. Thank you for the call.
Appreciate it all right.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Twelve twenty six.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Our phone numbers eight hundred and eight two three eight
two five five grab a line Helen.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Welcome, Hi, Hi here, Hello, yeah, thanks for taking my call.
I live templarily, I hope, in a school family apartment
like you see your Cincinnati and northern Kentucky, and it's
hardly worth. Christmas Eve and Christmas night, somebody was smoking
(17:09):
heavily in the buildings, and I'm not sure that it
was tobacco, and I and by, so that was too
nice for that before I could get hold of the
brand boarder to put a stuff to it. Because this
is a no smoking building, it says right on there.
The smell permeated I think it was upstairs, and it
(17:31):
permeated down into my apartments. I have had my mattress
and box brings for eleven months. It is permeated deep
into my mattress. Of course, every article of clothing stinks
like smoke, all paperwork, and I don't know where to
start first to try to get rid of this. I'm
(17:55):
sickest about my mattress because he really when I moved
in here, you know, I didn't buy anything of any value,
but I had you have to buy a back box
bring and mattress at times, so I did. So I've
already thrown away it's it's really, it's really heartbreaking. I've
thrown away uh, paperwork that I don't have to have.
I'm storing the rest in plastic. You know, your your
(18:16):
your financial papers and all that I have thrown away,
throw pills, anything you can't put in the washing machine.
And of course every article of clothing is looking uh
and it's threatening to get in my car I keep,
you know, uh up at a new clothes on and
wash my hair before I go to the car. This
is being going out for like three days now, so
(18:36):
I so what happens is of course I washed my
sheets as I washed the bedding, the mattress pad and
all that. But you I don't put the matter stand
back on because I know the mattress is waking. So
every morning you have to go through the same process.
So I have a couple of questions. Number one, where
should I start? First? While I've been waiting, I had
(18:59):
been wiping down the wallboards in the living room with
street nager. That's too strong, let me know. But I'm
wiping that down. That'll wash the windows. But the air
is contaminated. So two questions. Number one, where do I start?
Should I look at lifel and spray to try and
change the air.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
For liol I'm gonna do it now. You would start
with cleaning everything, and it sounds like you've got a
head start on that. And that means the walls and
everything else. It sounds like you got a head start
on that. I don't know. If Vininger is your best
I'd probably use like a trisodium phosphate non rints, and
(19:39):
I would wash down the walls. If there's car I
wash down the floors. If there's carpets, you're going to
have to clean the carpets.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Carpet carpet.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Okay, as far as the air, that's exactly what you
got to do because it's gonna linger. And there's different
things like ozone machines that would you know, eliminates that smell.
(20:09):
There's a product called odor exit and they have one
which produces a chlorine dioxide gas that kills that odor,
that kills. Now, you got to get as much of
(20:30):
the gunk off you know, the walls and the floors
and the you know, everything you were you've been working on.
You got to do that first. And then I think
your choices. You have like three choices. You can get
some you can either rent or buy some ozone machines.
(20:51):
You can you can I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
But what kind of cost is that going to be
to me?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I don't know. I'd renom but I don't know what
they cost. And I don't even know the size. You
should know about the size of the condo or you
know unit you can also the the odor exit that
I'm speaking of You can either call them or go online.
(21:21):
It's O D O r X I T. And I
think it's like what it is is a little packet.
It works well. I've used it in cars. I haven't
used it in a room used in a car with
where somebody had been smoking. You saturate to pack it
with water, clip it to a fan and you blow
(21:43):
that around and it really does. It will eliminate smoke issues.
And it's like forty to fifty bucks for that, and
you're probably gonna have to do it for a while.
And then the other you know, I don't think insurance
is going to cover any of that. But the other
thing is there are people that specialize in smoke odors
(22:04):
that would be the most expensive.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Okay, this odor exit now, there's nothing like toxic to that.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
No no, no, no no. All you'll get is maybe
a whiff of a chlorine smell, but it's non toxic.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Where do I can I buy this?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
You've got to get it online. There are some stores
that carry it. Ace Hardwares and it's O D O
r X it dot com.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I think That's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, it will help. It does a good job and
you can call them also. Then I'm sure they'll be
there Monday. I think it's eight seven seven Odor Exit.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Oh, okay, calling me exact.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
People that make it right? Right, they're right in the
in the in the Fairfield area.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Okay, So today you would you would you continue what
I'm going to wipe all the windows and down on
everything today. But I guess I should do that and
then try wiping off my mattress again. See, I'm afraid
I'm gonna wash the mattress so much it's gonna get
molded it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, I you know, the mattress has got me a
little bit stumped. I don't know. I think the odor
Exit I would put that matt I would put that
otor exit in that room and it will take the
smell out of the mattress. I think I would lean
to that more than I would trying to clean the mattress.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Okay, I'm going to buy that today. You think I
can get it at a hardware I would.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Go on their website and even call, uh the Odor Exit.
See if they pick it up. If not, I'm trying
to Yeah, pick it up?
Speaker 6 (23:50):
You mean, so we'll see if they answer today?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah? Yeah, Okay, and go on their website. This packet again,
it's a packet. They got a lot of phraise. They
got one called Eliminator, they got one called Magic. But
the one you want is the actual packet that you
wet and clip it to a fan and it's designed.
(24:13):
But go to their website first, take a look at
the Odor Exit packet. And also there's one called Mom's
Moms and just read on that see which one's going
to fit your needs the best, and give them a call.
If they answer the phone, they will talk to you
(24:33):
and they will coach you through the whole thing. There's
also probably a store locator on that website.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Okay, all right, all right, Gerry, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
All right, good luck. I can hear the frustration. Let's
take a little break, Dan, you'll be up first when
we come back. If you'd like to join us, do so.
It's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
lines are aw you're at home with Gary Sullivan right
here on fifty five care se Detalk station.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
All right, back at it.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
We go at home with Gary Sullivan taking your calls
regarding your home projects. And let's get to Dan.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Dan, welcome, good happening, Gary, Yes, sir, how.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Are you good? Good?
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Hey, I missed part of your presentation earlier today. You
were talking to a young lady about mold on shingles,
and I didn't get the product that she was using
or you were recommending to use on shingles to get
rid of that kill that mold.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, So let's make sure that's what you have. When
you have the shingles, you got these black streaks on it.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
No, I got kind of like under an overhang. It's
like a green moss or mold or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
So somebody get enough sun light there to keep the
shingles dry.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Okay. So so the the product that we were talking
about requires some sunlight, okay. So in order to make
it work and be effective, it needs moisture and some sunlight.
So the UV raises the sun and the moisture activate
(26:18):
this product, which kills mold, mildew, algae, liken, fungus, those
types of you know, problems if it. So I got
to make sure that's going to get some sunshine. Some
doesn't need much, it needs bright Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
It done the north side of the building. So you
know this time of year, it doesn't get any sunlight
since the sun is down in the south, but you know,
in the summertime then it comes back to the north
and then it gets plenty of sunshine.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Okay, well yet, all right, So the name of the
product as called Wet and Forget and wet and Forget
it comes several ways. You can get it in a
concentrate that you can mix it in a tank sprayer
and then wet down the problem area. Or Wet and
(27:16):
Forget comes with an attachment that can go right on
a hose. It can spray about twenty five feet, covers
about two thousand square feet and it's you know, you
literally do what it says, you wet it and forget it. Now.
(27:38):
It takes like six to eight weeks and it just
will disappear. It will just kill that mildew, fungus, et cetera.
You can use it in winter, you can use it
in the summer. It's probably or it's going to work
(27:58):
more rapidly in the summer. Probably work more rapidly in
the spring because in the summer you got a lot
of sunshine, you got some rain hopefully, but you got
a lot of evaporation. In the winter time. You could
have snow on that roof and cover it up your
sun your uv raisor lower. The sun is harder to
(28:21):
get to as you described, I would use it next May,
and again, very easy to use. And you don't want
to get up there with anything that's going to cause
loss of the shingle protection that granular product that's on
(28:43):
the surface of the shingles. Uh, So you don't want
to describe, you don't want to use pressure washers. I
mean it's the perfect product for that. Okay, excellent, all right,
you're quite welcome, thank you, and taking that a step further.
Like I said, right now, as I'm sitting here, the
sun's out, it's a beautiful day, and we have beautiful days.
(29:08):
Last week it was cold, but we had some bright
sunny days. So there is enough sun to activate the
wet and forget during the wintertime, and we certainly have
plenty of gloomy days in rain also, so we've got
(29:28):
enough to get it, you know, going if you will.
The only issue would be as if we had a
really snowy winter and the shingles were covered up and
couldn't get the sunshine, and it would just delay how
(29:48):
long you know, it would take to work. But then
again we wouldn't be looking at it right. I mean
it would be covered with snow. So I'm not saying
it can't work right now. It will work. It will work.
It's going to take longer or something like that. But
if you wanted to wait and knock that out in
April and May, it probably wouldn't be any problem around here.
(30:09):
Plenty of sunshine, plenty of rain that period of time.
And in the summertime if you're thinking about using that,
remember you get a day out there that's really sunny
in ninety degrees and you go out there and apply
the wet and forget the evaporation off a hot roof,
(30:29):
you're going to end up putting more on there than
you would if you did it right now or in
the wintertime. So ideally there's always an ideal time. Now
all it works year round, but ideally you'd really be
looking at getting that project done, you know, eighty seventy
(30:50):
eighty degrees outside with plenty of sunshine and no wind,
because you don't want to be having it blow and
not get on the surface either. So I see people
all the time that want to try that stuff, and
or they want to try an oxygenated bleach and I
get it. I've recommended it before. That's all there was,
(31:13):
and you can use that, but you're mixing with water,
you're spraying it on, you're letting it sit, and then
at some point you have to agitate a little bit.
Probably the best way is a pressure washer less than
six hundred psi because the grains that are on the
(31:34):
top of that shingle, that's protecting the core of that shingle,
that's what's protecting it from the sun, and that's what
breaks down a shingle. And if you get up there
and start hitting that with a street broom or hitting
that with a regular pressure washer, you'll take literally years
(31:56):
and years and years of life off that shingle. Because
that's how shingles fail. That's how you tell that your
roof is failing. As if your gutters have got a
you know, an inch of granular protection from the shingle
laying in the gutter, you've decreased the life of the shingle.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
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grab a.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Line, it's eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five and we'll come back and if there's a call,
well we'll take it. If there's not, I've got some
tips for you, and then we'll wrap things up with
our friend Danny Boy, who's at the control center. You're
at home with Gary Salvin right here on fifty five
krc DE talk station. All right, Uh, back at it.
(32:41):
We go at home with Gary Selvin as we well
kind of wrap up a year next week when we started,
it'll be the beginning. I think I gotta do the math.
I think it's the beginning of my thirty eighth year
of doing this show.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
But I want to I mean, you started when I
was nine.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, I'm trying to think, yeah, starting a six Yeah,
so been doing it for a few years, just a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
So.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
The weather's great right now, it looks beautiful. I've talked
several times a day about really taking that walk around
the home, and you're probably tired of me talking about that.
But the one thing when you look at the forecast,
the long range forecast for our area in January now
is cold and snow and probably even colder in February.
(33:31):
From what I'm seeing. Whether it's right or wrong, who knows,
but starting Wednesday, it does look like colder weather and
certainly winter is going to return to our area. So
the question always is how prepared are you? And I
can talk about looking for exposed pipes, and probably not
a bad idea to look for exposed pipes and get
(33:54):
some pipeer app on them, get them protected for there's
no freezing, but also ice melters, snow shovels. It's probably
been a while. This is not an alarm like watch out, folks.
This is just being prepared and kind of revisiting some information.
(34:15):
It's been a while since we've had quote a snow
a year, and I don't know if we're gonna be
able a snow a year or not, but it does
sound like we could have a good chance. So a
lot of times I get questions about concrete that is spawling,
the surface is popping off, and a lot of times
I'll say, well, do you use ice melters? Because ice
(34:36):
melters as a general category certainly can be a cause
to some of the spawling that we find in concrete.
And there's many different types of ice melters. And where
we really get stamped, quite honestly, is when you get
into blended melters. And I was talking to some manufacturers
(35:03):
about a month ago, and I go like I really
hate I get why you do it, or I thought
I got why they did it. And that was my
rationale was why manufacturers make blended ice melters is to
keep costs down. And this guy did not appreciate my
(35:24):
comment and went on to correct me and say, well, really,
what it is. It's about balanced performance, and I what
So if you have no ice melters in your home
right now, let's get a small bag and have them
have it ready for some snow. So let's go through
(35:46):
the different kinds. The first kind is sodium chloride, right,
rock salt. That's good for your budget, at least initially.
It's certainly does a great job of taking care of
melting snow and ice, but really works only above twenty degrees.
(36:13):
So when we get those real cold nights and everything
freezes up, rock salt's not your answer. It is inexpensive,
it is widely available, but it's also the most corrosive
ice melter you can get, so that is the culprit
(36:34):
in many cases of the concrete damage is the rouxel.
So then you got calcium chloride. Calcium chloride that's great
for extremely cold temperatures. It'll melt ice all the way
down to negative twenty five. It works quick, you don't
use much. It's not as harsh on concrete as the
(37:01):
rock salt, but it can be harsh to concrete vegetation
because people usually overapply it. It doesn't take much of it.
Then there's magnesium chloride. It's kind of the one I like.
Magnesium chloride is probably one of the safer products you
can use. It's certainly more gentle on concrete. It's also
(37:26):
safe with pets, vegetation like your lawn, and I guess
you know. So it's safe and it melts down to
about I think it's fifteen below zero on up, so
it's got for our area. It's got plenty of melting
(37:49):
properties of ice, and it's really one of the safer
ones to use. So that's the one I like. That's
the magnesium chloride. Then let's go to the blended ice melters,
because this is where I think people get in trouble. Now,
(38:10):
my manufacturer friend that corrected me. He didn't think so,
and that's fine. But what I see is it's a
blend of rock salt and calcium chloride, or rock salt
and potassium chloride, which potassium clorid that's great for mild winners,
(38:32):
safe on vegetation, works on fifteen degrees on up. But
it's a blend of all this stuff. And really what
it is is it's the people I think think they're
buying the calcium chloride, the you know, pretty safe, or
the magnesium chloride real safe, but it's got rock salt
in it. So remember the rock salt is the most
(38:55):
corrosive and least expensive. And when you start blending and
the better stuff with the cheap stuff, the rock salt,
you get that price down where you know, a bag
of what you think is harmless the concrete down to
around three bucks instead of the six or eight bucks
(39:19):
for the calcium chlorine. But it's got rock salt into
so make sure you know what you're buying and treated accordingly.
I wouldn't put rock salt on anything that's concrete. And
if you got new concrete, no ice melters for two years.
(39:41):
And another little tip here is if you've used any
ice melter, and especially I'll keep going back there, especially
if you used any rock salt. After it melts the
ice or after it laser and after it's rained a
little bit, you start having a white haze over the
concrete and then maybe you get a little sprinkle a
(40:03):
rain or a little morning dew or frost that reactivates
that salt, and what you end up with is a
very salty brine solution laying on your concrete, which is corrosive.
And that's exactly what we're gonna want to avoid. So
(40:25):
cleaning up the after powder of corrosive ice melters with
a broom and then flush the driveway when above freezing
is a good way to make it less corrossive. But
if it sits there, that film sits there all year
(40:46):
and keeps getting wetted down by morning dew in drizzle. Man,
that stuff stays grosser for a long time and really
can do damage to the concrete and especially in the garage.
That's something you could sweep up and flush out pretty easily.
So let's make sure that we don't do any damage
while preventing any falls. Okay, So that's going to wrap up,
(41:12):
not only today, is going to wrap up my new year. Yay,
Danny boy, Thank you very much, not only for the
day but all year long. It's been a pleasure and
good teamwork. And hope everybody enjoys the show and as
we get into twenty twenty five, I hope everybody continues
(41:32):
to participate as we sit around the desk and talk
a little home improvement each and every year. So good
Lord Willing, we'll be back in the new year. You're
at home with Garry Sullivan.
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