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December 3, 2023 • 44 mins
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All right, welcome to our numberthree at Home with Gary Salvan, taking
you through another weekend. By theway, you can always pick up yesterday's
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In the meantime, dial us up. It's five one three seven,

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five hundred taking your calls till noonright here on fifty five KRCE DE Talk
station. Well the weekend, itis welcome at Home with Gary Sullivan and
uh talking a little home improvement.Thanks for joining me, and if you'd
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Our number is eight hundred eight twothree eight two five five. All

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right, Roger, thank you verymuch for your patience. I appreciate it.
Hey, Gary, Yeah, Iwas calling in regarding the lady with
the water heater noises. Yes,sir, can you hear me? Okay?
I can't get good Okay. Ihad a thought on that I just
wanted to offer. It could absolutelybe anything that's already been mentioned, but
there's also a possibility that there couldcould have been an air pocket in the

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water line coming from the streets,for example, if the water company or
the city was working on the watermain, maybe had a water main break
or what have you. Uh,if you get air on the line,
you know it's gonna when it getsto the the tank, it's going to
expand. And or it could havebeen from the shak arrestor as well,
it's in the water line too.I just wanted to throw that out.
There could be yeah, yeah,and it wasn't pressure. But remember when

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they said that had the filter changedon the uh on the water softer on
the filters. Yeah, that's correct. And I don't know what the time
frame on that was as far aslike when she heard the noise from because
if you introduce air into the waterline, you're gonna have that. Yeah,
I was thinking that that could havebeen maybe the issue, but I

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didn't really know. But you're you'reright. I mean, gosh, there
could be so many things if it'sAnd then when I asked you, when
I asked her, do you reallyis it for sure in the water here?
She struggled with that a little bit. So well, I was upstairs
and I heard it, and Imean, you know, down the basement.
You know, you got to evenjust I have air the air ducks

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from the air handler every now andthen we'll get me a couple of bangs,
so I don't know. It couldbe the air pocket too. I
appreciate you hanging on and sharing thatbecause, uh, my guess is she's
gonna hear that a couple of times, and she's didn't seem like one that
was going to wait it out.She'd want to have it addressed. And

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that's good. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, because I've noticed that before
you even have the kitchen sink,sometimes all of a sudden, air comes
out of the line. And thenI think back, you know, it
seemed like as I drove through townyesterday and what you know, I've seen
them working on the water line.So I'm thinking, you know, because
it doesn't take much to get theair in there right and then, and

(03:07):
air compresses and water doesn't, soyou get that little boom boom effect.
Sure. Sure, well, Ihad an interesting thing happened even at my
house. I shut the water down, getting rid of the water and the
irrigation system and everything, and thenkind of recharged the system, and about
the next day, underneath the toiletby the valve, there was water on

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the wood floor, just a fewdrips, and just because of you know,
shutting off that water and then rechargingthat, I guess it started leaking.
I ended up ended up first replacingthe supply line and it stopped for
a day or two, and thenit leaked, and I ended up replacing

(03:52):
the ballcock the wash of the supplyline in the valve. It doesn't leak
anymore. But you know, thatwas just I'm sure just when changing that
pressure on that water line caused thatproblem or made that problem show up.
It may have, you know,as you know when you put water lines
together, you never know the maximumpressure like it's going to leak, and

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some of it could be right atthe ragged edge all the time. One
more quick item up at my mom'shouse, she had a water leak in
her basement and it was a reallystrange leak because it was a pinhole and
I mean super small and a copperpipe. I've never seen that before.
A copper pipe normally would never I'mnot going to say robbed out or rust
out, because copper doesn't do that, but this had a and it wasn't

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it wasn't hit by anything, orthere's no dent or ding in it.
It was the strangest thing, andit was the water was coming out,
it was almost atomizing into the air, and it was sitting the duckwork and
then collect and it would rip onthe floor. That's the only reason we
saw it, because you couldn't seeit was just small. Yeah, but
have you ever heard of that?I have copper line actually I have.
In fact the community I lived in, probably in the mid eighties, the

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houses were having that problem and theynever really could pinpoint what the issue was.
A lot of people chase the copper. Is it, you know,
imported copper blah blah blah. Alot of people chase down the water company,
the water provider, and I don'tknow if I've ever really heard what
the issue is. But over timecopper will get holes and they will also

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get leaks on the joints. Ihave some, and again probably from the
soldering and different things. They werelead free solder, but there's green stains.
And I had a plumber out onetime looking at it and he goes,
well, you're okay, but ifyou ever start seeing white crustations,
you could get little pinholes in there, and we should cut that out and

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redo that joint. But adding onto when we were talking about the lead
pipes and everything, and Paul mentionedit came to our tension with the Flint
Michigan thing, you know, withthe lead and getting in the homes.
But water companies and it depends oncities and so it gets complicated. But

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there's different additives and different types ofthings they do to make sure that that
lead doesn't break down. But inFlint, Michigan, they actually made a
switch on something which caused that leadto break down, and that's where that
became such a real problem. SoI know absolutely, I'm not sure if

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that would have effect in copper overtime too. Maybe there's a study on
that. I don't know. I'mjust kind of spitballing here a little bit,
but that may have something to dowith it too. Yeah, you're
probably right. So in other words, the water quality could affect the condition

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of the pipes that it could initiateaeration, right, Yeah, I had
a fella he wrote me, actuallydid that interview yesterday and I thought it
was interesting enough to play it backtoday. He was a little unhappy with
me. Thought I was promoting peopleto change out pipes and I was trying

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to get business for this company.But that wasn't the case. My case
was. I was trying to understandwhere we were going with it too,
and he was saying, well,I got copper and my pipes and my
supply is copper from the municipality,but I have no copper in my water
supply. And at the end ofthat interview, if you notice, I
did say the bottom line here isif you're uncomfortable, have your water tested.

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Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, that'svery important. I think people should
do that more. All right,yeah right, yeah, Well, thank
you very much, Roger. Iappreciate your time. You bet. Okay,
Yeah, thanks for the conversation.Okay, bye bye. All right,
let's get to Bill. Bill.Welcome, Hey, Gary, thanks
for taking my call. You bet. Say, I've got a ten year

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old house with forced air heating system, and of as of late, when
the heat about a minute into afterthe furnace comes on, there's something in
this in a crawl space the furnace, there's something that pops. I believe

(08:24):
it's something in the duck system.But It's never done that. I'm wondering
why it would pop now after allthis time, why it would start now
unless one of the hangars have becomeloose, that would cause it. You
know, So is it a rectangularsystem or a round system or what is

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it? The house? No,no, I'm sorry, the duckwork.
I don't know what you mean.So is the shape of the duckwork?
Is it just a round tube oris it a rectangular kind of like spare
type round two. The only thingI could think of is maybe one of

(09:07):
the hangars is loose. And again, when we heat that up and then
it begins to cool off, whetherwe get some expansion contraction that can cause
a ding. I had mine,And the reason I asked that question is
I had similar It wasn't in across space. It was in a basement.
And I'm trying to think of thetime of the year. I almost

(09:28):
want to think it was the summertime. I could be wrong now, but
anyway, I had duckwork and itjust sounded like somebody would punch the duck
work. Now they go bang.And what I did is I took some
pipe, hanging pipe hanging strap anchoredit to the joys and re supported that

(09:50):
round piece of duckwork and braced ita little better and it went away.
So what I think was happening there, and it sounds like it could be
the same thing you had from theforced air in the temperature differential. It
caused just a little expansion contraction anda bang. I resupported it and went
away. Oh interesting, So isthat something I could do? Or sure?

(10:16):
Well, depending yours is in across space, so you'll be a
little bit more uncomfortable than I was. But yeah, yeah, And the
hardest part was really trying to figureout where it was. And uh,
what I did is I actually wasup on a ladder and I had my
wife turning the blower off on thefurnace manually and when it kicked on,

(10:39):
wouldn't do it all the time,but I could actually identify exactly where it
was on that piping and just,you know, as a whim, just
tried to resupport it and it worked. Interesting. Okay, Well I'll try
that. Gary. I appreciate youtaking the call, and I really enjoy
your program. I've been listening toit for five ten years. Well,

(11:03):
I appreciate it, Bill, andthanks for your patient hanging on. I
know you hung on for a while, and sorry about that. Sometimes we
just got a lot of information,we got to get out, and you
were understanding enough and patient enough tohang in there, so I appreciate it
all right. If you'd like tojump on board, there's a couple of
lines open now. It's eight hundredeight two three eight two five five at

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take your calls regarding home improvement.We've had some great questions today. If
you'd like to jump on board,do so. A couple spots for you.
It's eight hundred eight two three eighttwo five five and Mike Welcome,

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Hello, Harry, how are you? Yes, sir, just fine,
thank you. Look, I hadan old boiler heat with the with the
baseboard radiator, everything with the hotwater and everything. Well I got rid
of all that because oil got soexpensive and everything. So to make a

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long story short, oh, Igot rid of all that heating stuff,
cut out all those baseboard heaters.So all those nice warm copper pipes running
around her house feeding all those theheaters. Got that cross space moderate now
because I never think I never gavethat a thought. Now my floors are

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freezing cold, and I get frozenpipes, And I was wanted to know
if you have a safe idea ofa way to heat that cross space.
And I certainly don't want to,you know, plug in a space heater.
That'd be unsafe. So you gotit, You got anything in mind?
I know, it's kind of aperplexing situation. So is the cross

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space off a basement? Is that? Where? Is it just a free
standing cross space under the house?Oh yeah, the whole old house is
sitting on a cross space. Okay, so it's not getting anything really?
Is it insulated? It all?They got some like two point five are

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bored around the outside under the skirting, but it's not doing that's just it's
not enough because the floors, everyfloor is freezing, and I get frozen
pipes, and I mean it's anightmare when winter comes. So the water
pipes, the water pipes to yourhouse are run through the cross space,

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they're freezing when it gets real cold, and then your floors themselves are super
cold. Also, yeah, alltime, all time. Yeah. So
do you have the pipes wrapped atall? Yes, as much as I
could. Your crosspace is hard toget. I put some on, you

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know how that stuff, and Islid it down, and I put some
more. Owners slid it down tillit stopped, and I so, but
it really is. I mean itgets cold down there. And I live
on del Marvel in Maryland, Okay, and we get some really serious cold
weather only like we get three dayruns and then it'll get moderate and then

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we'll get three day runs of freezeand stuff. And if it gets below
you know, twenty five degrees,are the frozen pipes. Yeah, I
take care of that. I leaveall the fatted strip. Yeah. Yeah,
but you will correct that, soyeah, well you can add heat
to that. I mean, youknow, I would work at uh maybe

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a little bit of total uh,encapsulation of that cross space to just make
sure we're insulated well so that weknow, not just lasting energy in there
too, you know, to keepit warm. But there's like a little
you could get different types of likea mini split system down there, runs

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on electricity and uh, mounted ona wall, and you know you could
keep that down to like fifty eightdegrees. But i'd certainly insulate the walls
and things like that. Get youknow a good uh you know, twelve
mili plastic vapor barrier down on theground. If you don't have that,
maybe with some rock hold met inplace, and you know, I'd make

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it. You know, it's gotit's got the bis queen on it all
right, and uh but I meanit's just cold. I mean yeah,
all the all the coil was intothat place and I went around. I've
tightened it is called that, okay. And you don't have any open ventilation
that you have to seal up too, do you? No? I don't,

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okay, good good. I wentto I went to all the actually
just force hot air. Yeah,on electric fans, you know the ones
that's slipped between the studs and gota nice cover plate on them. Is
there any way to get your youryour existing unit. Have you talked to
an HVAC guy about getting a registerin there where we could just, you

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know, just add a little bitof heat without screwing up your whole system.
We's see, I don't have centralair. All I got is hot
air. Okay, hot air,force air well, okay, I'm in
for the forced hot air. Cancan we get that in off your system?
Is a system large enough to supportit? I mean, if it's
not, the answer is like amini split system and just have that as

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it's sole functioning to add heat intothat cross space area. If you could
tap it off, the existing duckwork. And you're gonna have to work
with an HVAC company to see ifthe system can do that or not do
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I quick reminder if you missed ourconversation Paul Abram from Rotor Router about
the new legislation on pipes lead pipes, you can pick that podcast up good

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information. It's free, of course, download the iHeart app, click podcast,
or wherever you get your podcast,click the podcast at Home with Gary
Sulvan. Danny's got it highlighted anddated and you'll find it very easily and
a lot of good information there.George, welcome, Hey, how you
doing, Garrett, Yes, sir, I'm doing fine, Thank you,

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good good. I'm trying to convertmy garage into a separate building or part
of the house, and I wantedto know I'm wanting to put a laundry
room in there as well, becauseit's hard for the wife. You get
up and down in the basement.The wall where our washer and dryer is

(22:48):
on the same wall that our garageis on. So I was going to
run everything up to the garage andmake it as easy as possible. But
do I put a roof or ourceiling inside the garage prior to building the
laundry room, or do I justgo ahead and build the launder room and
then do the rest of it aroundwhat would be the easiest. Well,
that's when I'm pausing to think.I'm trying to visualize it, to be

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honest with you. So the pipesare going to come through the wall straight
up? Yeah, because they runYeah, Well they're in the basement,
you know, They're in the ceilingof the basement, which is underneath the
up floor. Okay, and itgoes down to the launder room. So
all I was going to do isturn them and go up. And it's

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only another three feet above to runthe water into the garage from the laundrroom.
It, see exactly. It's likethe same wall, it's just the
other side above it. Okay,And okay, so we don't have to
worry about the garage floor slab.That's that's what I was concerned about.
Uh huh, So you you won'thave yeah, you'll be behind that,

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correct right, Okay, yes,okay, So that really wouldn't affect anything
in terms of the ceiling in thegarage. Correct. Well, you know,
but what I was wanting to knowis is it would it be easier
to just do the whole ceiling is, lay the top and then build the

(24:17):
laundry room itself before I tackle therest of the room, because my wife
would like to get the launder roomdone. Pop passage. Well, I
guess, you know, if you'rereally you know, at first blush,
I'd say leave the ceiling till lastin case you have to get access to
it. Okay. On the otherhand, where you're telling me you're running
up the pipes, it doesn't soundlike you're ever going to need access to

(24:40):
it unless you get into you know, can lights and things like that.
But you know that can be theelectrical runs across the top of the garage
into the house from the far wall, which I will have a you know,
steps to go up into there.I've already got that planned into the
ceiling. Yeah. So as longas you're not going to need yeah,

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as long as you're not going toneed access into that ceiling area, I
think you could go ahead and putthe ceiling up again. Okay, if
you felt there was going to beaccess needed for whatever, you know,
it's going to be the last thingyou do. Oh okay, So yeah,
just playing ahead yeah, all right, yeah, because I was wanting

(25:23):
to do the laundry room and getit to where you could go into it,
you because it's getting cold. Well, that was another thing I had
is do you have heat in thereyet? I mean, I'm putting a
small uh gas heater, you know, the one that you can buy just
for a single room or just thelaunder room. Just I was just gonna
have one of those because I havea gas furnace and the line actually runs

(25:48):
right along the back wall right there, and I was just going to,
uh, you know, have somebodycome out and do a separate line for
a small you know, the wallyou need you can put in right right.
Yeah, that's what I was goingto do, just for the laundrys.
Okay, because I'm playing, I'mputting a w stove in the rest
of the Yeah, okay, bemindful. Might be a question you want

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to ask, is those gas uhyou know, there's a there's a lot
of water vapor created with that gasheater, and I don't you know,
you never get into condensation issues untilyou've got something that's creating water vapor.
And we have temperate temperature differentials.Remember, warmer can hold more water colder

(26:37):
can hold less, so be mindfulof that. Make sure we don't get
into a condensation issue. Okay,all right, I appreciate it. Very
good, Thank you very much.All right, good luck to you.
You have a great day. Thankyou, Merry Christmas to you. Thank
you. All right. It's eighthundred eight two three eight two five,

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Chuck, welcome, enjoy your show. Gay Bed a long time listener.
Well, thank you very much.You're very welcome. My daughter has a
house, multi level or multi storyhouse. It's got the natural gas for
the heating, and you got gastold you know, gas furnaces and water

(27:26):
heaters. Gas. But she's gotthe black iron threaded pipe, has put
in about twenty seven years ago,and it's either breaking down at the threaded
fittings or just might be a littlerust in it. I just I guess
it's just wearing out. And Iwas wondering, is there she looks like

(27:48):
she's gonna probably have to report.It's running throughout you know, the house,
inside the house, and of coursecovered up by sheet lock and that
sort of thing. I was wonderingif it's a better pipe to use these
days than that fly irn pipe.Yeah, there's definitely coated pipes and that

(28:10):
you would have to check into.Have you had the gas lines actually inspected?
Yes, sir, the gas companyhas been out three times and at
least three and you know, inas short a time as a week,
and she's had a couple of heatingpeople take a look at the furnace and

(28:32):
things like that, and they're findingjust small pinhole weeks in some of the
threaded fittings. And you know,I know nowadays we use a special compound
for gas as we do for waterand that sort of thing, but I
just wondered about what would be abetter product to put for her to Well,

(28:56):
again, there's a national fuel there'san national code for gas lines,
so you're going to be mandated onwhat type of residential gas pipes you have.
And it also, and this isone of the difficulties of doing a
national show. They're different from stateto state. So I think, whoever,

(29:21):
yeah, so, and I don'tknow each state's ones, but you
can certainly get you know, thegas codes for gas lines for each state
online. And because even though youknow some of the corrugated gas lines now,
you remember back when they were justlike brass and now they're coded,

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so there is certainly different types ofpiping use. You're just gonna have to
find out what's permitted. Have youat this point, I know you've had
people out, Have you talked abouthaving those lines re placed in their recommendations
of what they're going to have touse and what the cost is going to
be. I don't think all ofthat has occurred yet. Maybe some of

(30:11):
it. I think it's been announcedto her. Uh it's going to be
expensive, Yeah, well instead itis now. Yeah. I don't know
much about plumbing. I know alittle bit, but my forty five years
was inelectrical, so I'm kind ofyou know, I mean, I just

(30:33):
want if they come up with something. I mean, my first thought was
plastic is probably good in the ground, but I didn't know about you know,
running through your house in the walls. Yeah. Yeah, I don't
think I'm going to really make arecommendation on that. I'm going to leave
it up really when they see exactlywhat the layout is and how they're going

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to attack it, whether it needsto be underground, this is all natural.
This isn't pro pane gas, correct, right, that is correct?
Okay, all right, So here'swhat I would do, Okay, rather
than even going through and looking upcodes and everything, obviously you're going to
have it professionally done, I wouldget a couple of bids of replacing either

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all of it are just a lineor two or whatever, and I would
get probably several bids to see notonly the cost, but to see how
and how they're going to run itand what they're going to use, and
then let's do the research on whatthey're going to do or ask questions on

(31:41):
that point, rather than us tryingto create the mouse trap and give it
to the professional, I understand.I think that's how I can make to
come up. But I guess thefirst time it's coming up as suspension that
if you've got several lakes, theyeven have leaks that they can't even find

(32:01):
and check out, well that's apossibility. And have they red tagged anything?
I mean, are we still ableto use the gas? Well,
at the moment they had it shutoff, they turned it off and off
and on, and I guess inthe process of checking things, but at
this point it is turned off.I think they to the point they're pretty

(32:23):
pretty much scared of it, andrightly so you're going to have to move
fast. It looks like, yeah, well, I think i'd be on
the phone first thing in the morningand get somebody out there and let's let's
talk with them what needs to bereplaced. And again, do I agree

(32:44):
with you? It sounds like everything'sgoing to have to be replaced. The
following is a test of the emergencyalert system. This is only a test.

(33:07):
I don't know because I've not runinto this question or this problem before.
I don't think there is. Butgeez, so there's so many new
things coming down all the time.I don't know if there's any liner that
can be used in those or not. I know there are for plumbing drains,
and I think there's even some forsupplies, but I don't know about

(33:30):
gas. I kind of doubt it, but I don't know that. That's
why I said let's get a peopleout of the Where were you talking about
the plastics when you said that oranother No, I'm just talking about a
liner for black iron. I don'tknow it exists. I'm just guessing and

(33:50):
I don't think it does. Butthat's why I said, let's get somebody
out there that's going to do thework. Let's find out what this whole
thing's going to look like. Inother words, what is the type of
pipe that has to be used oris there choices? And what are my
choices? And you know, andthe cost and all of it. We

(34:12):
got a lot of things to figureout before we start deciding what we want
to do. So my suggestion,man, first thing tomorrow morning, you
get somebody out there that specializes inthat, and let's find out what Let's
find out what kind of options wehave before we just start recreating our little
own little mouse trap here. Allright, thanks much for the call.

(34:34):
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thank you all for listening. Ihope you have a great holiday season.
We'll be right here with you uptill probably New Year's Eve. Might take
off that day In the meantime,let's get to Eric. Eric. Welcome,

(37:20):
how you doing, sir? Doinggood? Hey, I'm first time
caller. Thank you, long timelistener. I just had my driveway blacktop,
about two hundred and forty feet worth, and he told me to seal
it in about six months. What'sthe best sealer to use on a blacktop?
Well, yeah, my suggestion wouldbe wait a year. To be

(37:44):
honest with you, okay, Ireally would year, even year and a
half. That blacktop is it's sodifferent than concrete. Okay, so you're
really not putting that asphalt in peril. But you know, if he's telling
you six months, I guess youcould do it in six months. But
usually people tell you at least ayear, year and a half. So

(38:07):
sealers have changed a lot over theyears, and they have also gotten better.
So you can look when you goout and start looking at asphalt seilers,
they've actually got them labeled like howlong they're going to last? And

(38:28):
you know the rule of thumb.I know when I was a kid,
or even up to maybe ten yearsago, you usually asked you usually put
a driveway seiler on your asphalt drivewayevery other year. I mean, as
a kid, we did it everyother year. That was my job and
it probably didn't need it, butbecause it was faded, my dad thought

(38:50):
it needed it, and that waswhat everybody kind of did. Well,
now, some of your really highend driveway seilers are a cruly great less
and they're they're darn near fade resistant. So you can find driveway steilers that
are two year, five year,seven year, and ten year longevity.

(39:15):
So you said the best, soI'll tell you about He recommended for him
to do it, of course,but he said he could get the best
stuff out of Cleveland, which isprofessional grade, but he was going to
charge a lot for it too.Yeah, well he should better stuff,
probably got better properties to it.And then when it comes into you know,

(39:37):
commercial grade seilers, I guess youknow, that's not my area where
I roam. My area is moreDIY or homeowner grade materials. That's what
I want to do. Yeah,So there's one made by Gardner Gibson and

(39:58):
Loews carries it. I think ahardware carries it. And this particular seiler
is it was called Blackjack. Ithink they changed the name of it to
I've heard of it. Okay,So It's a ten year acrylic resins seiler
that has an aggregate in it,but it's a very very very fine aggregate

(40:21):
has super UV resistance, so thatis going to stay long black or longer
than any driveway seiler that you canbuy. All right, what you do
with it. It's also got otherproperties too, so when you get it,
you never have to stir it,which is a real pain in the
you know what for any type ofdriveway. So you get it, you

(40:43):
turn it upside down, lid sidedown overnight and when you open it up
you're ready to go in the morning, you'll spill it. You'll spill it
onto the driveway. This is afteryou've cleaned it and all that good stuff.
Spill it onto the driveway. Usethe same type of applicator that they've
been you in for thirty years.It's got a brush and it's got a
squeege. You go ahead and youyou brush all of it in. You

(41:08):
work in maybe you know ten squarefeet, brush it in, take your
squeegee, smooth it out. Andwhat you're trying to do is you're trying
to put a thin coat on,so not a real real super thick coat.
It drives in two hours, andyou reapply the second coat. You
can walk on it in two hours, so you're good the next day.

(41:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, and literallyit's since it's an acrylic resin, not
all this coal tar and stuff likethat. It resists the UV rays of
the sun, which is what causesthe fading. And it's an acrylic resin.
And the durability, it's a whole. Acrylic resins in the last ten

(41:50):
years have changed all kinds of coatingproducts, whether it's for concrete, whether
it's for walls, it's countertops.It's got super gray abb abilities. In
other words, it sticks to thesurface, it breathes because it's acrylic.
Again, that'd be the best one. It's a ten year warranted product.

(42:13):
That's probably what I'll get a tenyears Yeah yeah, go online and take
a look at it. They probablygot videos and everything else on it.
But that's the one. It's theten year Blackjack Driveway seiler. I will
thank you, sir. It's allright, have a good day. You
do the same. Thank you verymuch. I appreciate the call. All
right. Yeah, it has changed. You've heard me talk about the roller

(42:35):
rock, You've heard me talk aboutthe countertop the spreadstone products. I'm telling
you that's all cryllic residence and thendriveway stealers too. Hey, I do
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gonna take advantage that holiday Caddie packor getting some extra cartridges, just go
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boy, a great job this weekend. Really appreciate your efforts and all our
listeners thank you very much for yourparticipation. We always learned something each and

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every weekend, and good Lord Willing, we'll be back next weekend do it
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