June 15, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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eight hundred eight two three eight two five five, grab
the line. We've got a couple for you and Tim.
You kick us off this hour.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Hello Gary, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You bet you.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I've been listening to been listening.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
To you for many many years.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
H My issue is I have an exposed aggregate porch.
It's about sixteen by twelve and I would like to
coat that with something to give it a smooth coating
and then apply a roller rock over that. Is there
a product that I can accomplish that with As far
as getting that smooth coating.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah. Has it been sealed recently? Tim, No, No, so
it's pretty dull. Yes, Okay, because I think you're your
biggest challenge. There's definitely coatings. The biggest challenge is since
a lot of it's stone and it's not a concrete
where there's capital aires to allow uh, the the coating
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to bite into the surface. It's a denser, denser surface. Uh.
It makes it a little more challenging. You heard Peter
when he was talking about maybe using UH an acid.
He also talked about using a high pressure power washer.
(02:26):
And the product I'm thinking about is a product called
UH and Danny, you might have to look this up.
I've goofed it up a couple of times a day.
It was called rock patch or rock fix, and what
it is. It's a non sementatious, trillable resurfacer that can
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be applied over you know, like pitted concrete and things
like that, and that would really be I think ideal
for going over the surface. There's all also some cementatious
resurfacing products. I know Quick Creep makes one called a resurfacer.
It's a powder. A little work on mixing it up,
(03:11):
but it can be a child with a squeegee or
a brush. I think the rock patch or rock fix
that I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It is rock Patch, Gary, rock Patch.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Thank you, yes you, rock patch, it's called and I
think that would be a better product because it's non cementations.
It's it's got better clinging power. It's also a dish product.
So what I would do is this, go to their website,
take a look at the rock patch and then take
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a look at the roller rock. I know they live
in the same arena, so it will cover it. And
if you have any questions call them. It's kind of
a family owned business, so you know they'll help you
through it. And there's also a lot of frequently asked
question things on both of them and videos and things
(04:06):
like that. I've used, even though I couldn't remember the name,
but I used a rock patch for small divits out
of a concrete very easy to use. It's almost like
a you know, like a good butter and a tub
if you will.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Okay, well that work on vertical surface like the sides
of the porch.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It would. I haven't used it that way, but it would.
It's consistency would allow it to cling.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
I'm sure, okay, And I know they have another product
called spreadstone. Is that would the roller rock versus the spreadstone,
which was best for an outdoor application like this?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Do you know he called well, I'm confused on that too.
So he has an outdoor spreadstone and an outdoor roller rock.
I don't know if I've ever asked him what the
difference is, and they kind of go on the exact
same way. So you know, I know the spreadstone they
can use on countertops. That was one of his first products.
(05:05):
In fact, that was a product I had used a
couple of times before I having knew Peter and before
he ever sponsored the show, and it's a great product.
But I know the spreadstone he's talked about using on
walls in a bathroom, but he's talked about roller rock
more as a floor product. But I don't know if
the aggregate inside that, And that's kind of a misnomer too.
(05:29):
You know, it's called roller rock, but it's not like
you can see it. It's thick, it's heavy, but you
can't see like any aggregate. So I think this spreadstone
is probably just a smaller aggregate, less thick mixture.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Okay, all right, Well, thank you for your help.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Gary, all right, good luck, send pictures. All right again,
it's eight hundred and eight two three eight two five
five grab a line, Kevin, welcome. How are you to doing? Fine?
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
I got a nineteen fifties brick bungalow that's got a
brick stair case going into the front door, and at
grade level, I've got a couple of large holes right
where the side of the stair risers go into the building. Uh,
And planning that was taking to closing those areas up,
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tossed a bunch of of mothballs into the in that
area to drive out any critters. And then notice that
the mothball smell permeated into the house. And I'm wondering, uh,
to fill that space. I was thinking of putting some
of the phone backer fill it covered over with huh,
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you know, a silicone cock. But then I started thinking
maybe that, uh, those holes on either side of the
staircase are there for a reason, so thought maybe I
needed to use screen instead.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So how far up are they? I don't I don't
know of a reason, and they would be there, but
I'm curious. I was going to ask you anyway, how
did the holes get there.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Well, I don't know how they got there. They're at
grade level. They're probably about the size of your fist.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, so somebody's digging underneath there. So there's a critter
that got back there at one time.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Well, it's above grade. It's on both sides, and it
looks like it's kind of finished off, not something that
that dug through the at least they don't know the
critter is going to dig through through brick.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But no, no, it's not going to dig through brick.
But if it's if it is there meant to be
there for airflow or anything. I don't know if there's
a cross space there. They used to create ventilation for
cross space. Now they fully encapsulate so that wouldn't be needed.
But I like your theory first of maybe covering over
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with a screen and and you know, making I'm surprised
you've never had critters down there.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Well, we've had mice, but not sure where they're coming from.
But this kind of said this might be where they're cutting.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
It could be because I I've got a stoop similar
you're talking about it. It's stamped concrete on the surface.
It's only one step. But I've had multiple times where
they dug under the slab. They're not digging through it,
but they just it's grade level and you know, all
of a sudden, there's got to be critters in there.
And what I did is I actually had a cementatious
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growling pumped in there and made it solid, okay, And
because I was concerned about that settling. So it doesn't
sound like that's an issue for you. But I don't
know why it would be ventilated. So I feel, I mean,
(08:48):
if you wanted to put a screen in there and
just you know, as a cautionary thing, it's certainly not
going to hurt any but I would I would say
a close cell foam uh pumped in there would be
would be good okay, you know, all right, all right,
(09:11):
all right, good luck and and yeah, so there wouldn't
be no ventilation need unless it was to a cross
space or something. But he brought up a great, great point,
and I do want to talk about that, and that
was about the throwing mothballs under there to get the critter.
Soon he said that I'm going like, oh ho, gotcha,
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don't do that. It will that smell will get into
the house. And really, when he was talking about throwing
the mothballs in there and then could smell it in
the house. I'm thinking like, well, maybe those holes are
there for ventilation, but I'm not so sure. I've seen that.
And if it's true the brick though, I don't know.
(09:55):
But if it's going there and then that smell from
the mothballs got into like the joist pockets and that
entered into the house, yeah, I would fill those. Uh,
and don't use mothballs because that smell does get in
the house. I've had numerous people call on that, so
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eliminate that idea. All right again, uh little wait, I'll
tell you what it's uh and where I'm at. It's
a sunny day. Everybody must be outside get some things
done or at least mowing grass. But we got spots
for you. And if you've been trying to call, now
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eighty two three eight two five five and Nancy.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
Welcome, Hello, how are you today?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Doing fine?
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Thank you terrific.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
I was calling. I have used the Millsec products before.
I've heard about it via you absolutely love the furniture
polish and the leather cleaner. It cleaned up my leather
couch so well. I have a dog loves to jump
on the couch. But anyway, so the other day I
went and I purchased more of the furniture cleaner. I
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cleaned my bedroom furniture with it, and I didn't wet
the rag like you're supposed to do. I forgot to
do that, and I put it directly on the furniture
with a dry rag, and the smell is overwhelming. And
we're now on day three and I can't get that
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smell out of my bedroom. Do you have any suggestions
of what I could do? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
So it is an oil, so now it doesn't have
a silicone in it, but I know what you mean
in terms of but it's not water based either, so
it does have that's it does have an an odor
of lemon or I fingure what the other one is.
They make a holiday want a lemon and an orange?
Speaker 9 (15:26):
That's what it is, the orange smell.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah. So if you got a box fan or you
want you want to suck that air out of the house.
So if it's in a bedroom, open up the window,
turn the box fan around in reverse where it's pulling
air out.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Uh. I also have you know home purifiers that I've
been running in that bedroom. It's a very large, uh
four poster all wood bed. Yeah yeah, King's side.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
I mean it's a big Yeah, you got one just
like that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
We can't move it anymore, but we got it. Have you?
So if you tried the fan, because just turning a
fan on doesn't remove it, you have to use it
so a fan is blowing, you know, like right in
your face, right, But if you turn that around, it
starts pulling the air out. So if you have i
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don't know, another window on the other side or another
area of the house, you're you've got to replace the
air that you're pulling out. So that's you know, you
asked me what I would use. That's what I would use.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
Okay, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I would try that first. It takes you know, I
don't think it'd take more than three or four days.
But you said you got it on there three days ago.
So does it still look wet, does it look shiny
or is it right out?
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Well, the the posts you know, on the beds looks
still shiny. The headboard, I've been kind of watching it
like go, you know, suck into the wood, and it
is getting better every day. Yesterday I did take a
damn cloth and went all over the headboard again. It
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seemed like it did help a little bit. But yeah,
I mean, and we you know, since yesterday was so
gorgeous here in Cincinnati, I had all the windows open
in the house and everything, and I've been running the fans.
A friend of ours suggested maybe using Murphy's Oil soap
on it. But I was hesitanting.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Don't do that. Don't do that. That'll actually the Murphy's oilsop.
Actually lay a film over it. It may it really odor,
but it will cause problems with the oil versus like
the wax that would be in a Murphy's oil soap.
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I would really go with that fan. And if you
have the fan on your you know, furnace or your
air condistry, make sure you turn that off and just
get a stranger pulling it across the house and out
that wind. I think that's the best way to eliminate that.
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And also one caution. It is a wonderful product. We
use it in my house. You use it, you said
you liked it. But I will tell you there's a
couple of things. If you don't wet the cloth, that's
that's a kind of a turn too. And I'll tell
you another thing, and I've made this mistake, is if
you use it on something that's been your athaned, it
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has a tendency to lay on that surface and not
soak into the wood. If you read on area it
talks about varnish furniture. And when I tell the story
of Millsick. I always tell you know it was actually
you know, it's over one hundred years old. You know
that product. It was invented, you know, like in early
nineteen hundreds, and it was when varnish was around. It
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doesn't penetrate your athanees and again it stays wetter on
euthane surfaces, doesn't seem to dry as fast, so that
may be an issue also. But again box Van reverse
it open a window and get a good stream going out.
And today looks like it'd be a great day to
do that. All right, I hope that helps Nancy. Thank
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you very much. When we come back, we got Tony,
Larry Joe. If you'd like to join us, do so.
We're talking a little home improvement. You're at home with
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the work we go thirty three minutes after the top
of the air talking about your home and the investment
we make in it in terms of our time and
hopefully a little passion there. But if you have a home,
new or old, you'll work on it. That's for sure
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something looks not right, peeling paint, it's it's not right.
There's a problem there. Pink just doesn't peel for fun,
and it doesn't always just peel because it's old. There's
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a ceiling. It's protecting the substrate. So if it's peeling,
it's not that it just looks bad, which it does.
It's that something's going on there. You gotta find out
what it is and correct that issue. All right, let's
get to Tony. Tony welcome, Hey, Hey, doing doing good, Sarah,
Thanks great.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Listen. I've got an old house. It's milk back in
nineteen fifty nine ish, it has it. Where's the hardwood flower?
The I originally when I first purchased the house in
eighty or I'm sorry, in two thousand and three, I
went in and put a pargo floor down, and the
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floor floated up. We're springing this time of the year.
The pargo kept floating up, kept breaking the pargo. So
I went in four years ago and put in a
three quarter inch hardwood floor on top of the original floor.
Took the pargo up replaced it. This flooring is also floating.
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It's the time when we're not running heat the more
and we're not running ac it just I reckon, it's
getting so much moisture in the floor and it's just
floating my floor up. You can walk across my floor
and feel like you're walking on water sometimes.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah. Well, that's exactly what I was going to say.
Is the first question I was going to ask is
what's below that sub floor? Do you know? Is there?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay, so it's above it's.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, So it's so it is moisture. I mean, there's
no barrier over that dirt.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
No, No, there's no way of getting it under that house.
It's old rock foundation and it's all settled down into
the dirt.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, And is so with all the spring rains and
I know you've had plenty, Tony. Oh yeah, I'm sure
that's the issue. Now, how is that wood floor installed?
Is there a vapor barrier underneath the wood floor at all?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yes? Yes, I put a I put it down myself,
and I put down the phone padded stuff that they
recommend putting underneath the hardwood flowers. I'll put that down
on top of the original hardwood forest. And like I said,
agent lights every year, and I have cut expansion joints
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in the in the new floor, thinking that I could
stop the expansion and stop the swelling, and it just
it keeps coming back every year.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So when you have this in the pergo too, you
know around the perimeter there should be a you know, at.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Least explosion gap.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, an expansion gap. You have that all installed also, correct, yes, sir, yes, yeah, yeah,
Well that's what's causing the problem, okay, is definitely moisture.
I guess I don't know exactly how much more expansion
we need to put on that perimeter, and that's where
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that would be ideal to put it rather than cutting
in the middle of the floor. But that seems like
an awful large area of expansion. I'd like to know
what the moisture counts Isn't that would And you can,
you know, you can determine that there is a moisture
meter that's got two very fine almost like pins that
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you can insert into the wood and they'll tell you
what the moisture count is. And again, even if it
tells you that and you call me and you say
it's ten, I'll go, well, that's too wet. You know,
what are we going to do about it? That's the question.
So the question wondering.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I was wondering if I could put out and try
to push something underneath of the floor of the house
from one side of the house to the other and
put vent pipes in, you know, like your bit drains
for French strains and stuff like that. If if that
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would help get some myamily underneath.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Their Yeah, probably not, because what's what happens is it's
kind of a curse. First of all, if you don't
have remember the lady that just had that odor from
the mill sick And I was talking about the cross ventilation.
If you don't have something really pulling air out even
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though there's holes, the only way it's going to work
is if there's a strong wind blowing through and pushing
out the other way. Okay, right, so then you get
a little ventilation. But then you got to ask yourself,
how often do you see that? And the big problem
with humidity is usually in the summer, especially like in Louisville,
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the humidity in the summertimes fairly high, and it's usually static.
It's there is no wind. It's just soup, you know,
it's and and so those holes don't help at all.
In fact, they increase the humidity. So in cross spaces
and crawls in a lot of cases, standard building practices
not even to ventilate. Now, the whole big thing is
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whole house encapsulation or crawl space encapsulation. And and that
would be what you'd want to do if it can
be done, and I you know, I know there's there's
different ways they can do it with different uh you know,
foams that they can pump in, and maybe do the
underside of the sub floor with a closed cell poam. Uh,
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that would be a way to do that. Also putting
you know, even a four mili plastic barrier on the
floor itself to eliminate ground moisture. We don't even know
if there's standing water underneath that, and there may be,
and maybe we need to get a pump in there. Right,
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So that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
All my grade, all my grade grades away from grains
away from my house. And the last time that I
was up underneath of the house, well I can't get
under it. And I have to take four up. When
I pulled the floor up trying to find the problem,
and it always seems like that the the original floor
is what's buckling up causing the rest of my the new.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Forward to the old rise and float well, And that
could be an issue too if that old floor has
been exposed to moisture for a period of time. And
I don't know is it is it plywood or is
it just bringing.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
No, it's the original. It's original oat plank.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, I mean it's oat plank. Is the so there
is no sub floor. The oat plank is the floor period.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's the floor period, right, Yeah, the original old floor
is still there. And of course back in the old
days they put a piece of light in the middle
of it, ain't around the border. And that's what I
went into when I first bought it. And I went
in and put the pargo down and it floated, and
I pulled it back up and put the hundred down.
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It floated.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
You know, So does it go back down in the
winter time?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, well we go back down after I turned the
AC on. Yeah, you know, first, Junie, we turn the
AC back on and normally by the end it goes
back down. But until I turn the A C on,
I have a fling.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Is there any way to get a deumidifier underneath that
crawl area.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
No, I'm a big boy, but I can't get up
underneath there myself.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I just have to Well, I think the only way
we're going to be able to minimize some of that.
And it could be that the cause is still humidity.
It's just which wood is really taking it a run
for its money, and that original plank, since it's the
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first line of defense, it could be swelling and just
pushing everything. But that doesn't really solve the problem. It
still comes back to eliminate the moisture from getting to
that plank, and it goes back to maybe calling somebody
in there that can do a I was going to
say injectable foam, but they can foam the They can
(32:09):
foam the underside of that subfloor with a closed cell
foam which is a moisture barrier, and that may settle
that whole thing down. You know. The other option is
really paying attention. I know, the AC's off, the furnaces off,
maybe the windows are open, but just see what the
(32:31):
humidity level is is inside your house, not in the
crawl space, not necessarily that room, just overall in the
house and you know, I consider this summertime, and you
know you you'd want it between forty and fifty five percent.
And you know, if you've got that in the house,
(32:51):
then the finger still points to that, you know, crawl area.
And to rectify that, I think it's really putting the
foam on the underside of that floor. And if they
can do it, but they got wands in different things,
and that might be the option.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Okay, all right, all right, decided to take up your time,
and I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You bet you take care, bye bye. It's frustrating. The
other thing is to maybe readjust that whole flooring where
we got maybe a half inch on the sides rather
than a quarter inch for it's so that it's not
going to buckle. Rather than trying to change the whole geography,
let's just give it more leeway. But he said he
cut expansion joints in the floor. I don't know how
(33:36):
that's going to work, but it's always around the perimeter
a quarter inch. Maybe we go to a half inch,
just an idea. All right, Joe, you'll be up. We
got Renee, we got Larry, and if you'd like to
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and twelve minutes in taking your calls regarding your home projects,
let's get back to the phones we got. Joe, Joe, welcome,
Thank you, Gary.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
How are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Doing fine? Thanks?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
YEA good good? A couple of questions for it? This
uh roller rock or spreadstone that this product? Can you
use that on a piece of plywood?
Speaker 10 (37:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
The spreadstone you can use it on furniture, So I
would assume you could use it on plywood. I would
seal the plywood before I used it, though, Yeah, do
you what do you got? What are you thinking about? Well?
Speaker 6 (37:27):
I have got a big air conditioning unit on my
deck that's kind of in a bad spot, and it's
pretty large, and it's right outside the door, and it looks,
you know, functional, but it's functional, but it doesn't look
so great. So like when someone comes over, I've got
this big, heavy, heavy duty piece of plywood that I
(37:50):
thought I would use and cover it, and you know,
you could use it to put your drinks on or
your you know, uh snack tray or something like that,
and you know maybe I would, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
So is it is it pretty noisy when you're sitting
out on that deck?
Speaker 6 (38:16):
It is? But it's if if we're out there, I
just turn it off. If it's if, it's a problem.
But I'll tell you what is noise he's sitting out there.
I had a competitor of your easy breathe put in
one of the systems, and the gentleman, I think he
(38:38):
put that thing in a bad spot, and it's right.
He put it in the spot that was easiest for
him to install it instead of where the the individual
has sold it to me suggested it go. And by golly,
that thing makes a noise and that is very annoying.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yes, here's a couple of my comments. First of all,
the easy Breathe, I can't hardly hear mine run, so
it sounds like they've got a little bigger fans, so
that maybe changing out the air faster. I just saying
that for people just don't think all you know, ventilation
systems are real noisy. But here's another thing, that compressor.
(39:22):
That's in the total worst place they can be. We
both agree on that. Can you put the spreadstone over
a wood surface, Yes, you can for that application it
would probably function just fine. But here's the big butt.
You can't cover up an air conditioner. Now. You said, well,
(39:45):
when I put it on there, we turn it off. Fine,
then you could, but that thing has got to be
off when that air conditioner's on there, because it functions
by the airflow. Many times. One of the tips I
talk about as a compressor that's outside, don't put a
fence right up against that thing. Don't let bushes grow
(40:06):
over it. It needs airflow. So if you're going to
turn it off and put that up and then take
it off and turn it back on, fine, but don't
put it up there and just leave it on there, right.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Right, good tip? Right, Yeah, Well we'll keep that in mind.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, So if you want to use a spreadstone on that,
it doesn't look like it's going to be on a floor,
so it's not going to take much wear and tear.
I would say, yeah, if you wanted to put the
spreadstone right on top of that to cover that up
on that, you'll be fine.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
Good, good, Thank you another question why I have it? Gary.
This week, I'm getting new driveway, garage floor, front step,
sidewalk get in concrete, and I was wondering how long
would I have to wait to put some sort of
a cording on the floor in the garage, you know,
(41:02):
as long as I've got everything out of the garage,
it would be very convenient to you know, have a
company come in and, you know, put something down here.
I haven't researched it, but usually the.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Rule of thumb is and there's so many different coatings now,
you know, there's a POxy, probly, your urea's acrylics, et cetera,
et cetera. But a good rule of thumb is on
fresh concrete, twenty eight days. Okay, that's considered a full cure,
knowing quite honestly, concrete cures forever. But at twenty eight
(41:38):
days is when you could code it.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Okay, Well, I don't think I can keep all my stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
On probably not, probably not, but you can be pretty
organized to when you're putting it in, you know where
you could move it out again. But I mean, twenty
eight days for green concrete is a good rule to
live by.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
Yeah, and generally it's a couple of days before you come,
or a day and a half or whatever to walk
on it.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Or.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
It depends. You know, when I set a poxies, poxies
are going to be a day, day and a half.
The polyurea's probably a day, some of the acrylics probably
a couple hours. But in all honestly, putting stuff back
in on it, I'd probably wait a couple of days,
you know, to bring stuff and start putting them back
(42:28):
in there.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
Sure do you have a preference for end of products you.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Just mentioned, Well, it really depends on what you want
to spend, how long you went to last, et cetera.
I would say, right now, in the horse race, it
would probably be in an industrial POxy or a polyurea
for longevity. On the other hand, you got to think
(42:53):
that for a decent sized garage, it might be four
or five thousand and six thousand dollars some of you
or crylics. You're like, when we were talking about the
roller rock, that's sixty five bucks a gallon. I'm trying
to think he told me what the coverage was during
our conversation. I forget what it was. It was like
fifty one hundred square feet or fifty square feet. I
(43:15):
can't remember. I thought I may have note of it.
I have to look at my notes. Let's see. Hold on,
I know I wrote it down eighty square feet, eighty
square feet to a gallon, and it was sixty bucks.
And it was like one hundred and sixty five for
a three gallon pail. So that's gonna be the least expensive.
(43:37):
He said, about five to ten years, you'd be doing
your own work on it, and you're still gonna you're
still gonna do twenty eight days and I and he
said the drying time on that was about three to
four hours, so probably the next day, you know, twenty
four hours, give it twenty four hours before he starts
sitting stuff on it, I think would be a good number.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, yeah, okay, go ahead, all right, Hey, thanks, thanks
very much.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
You're quite welcome. Thank you. Take care and uh yeah,
i'd say right now leading the horse race. I mean,
if you want something to last super super super long,
I mean that for the price the dice coding's roller
rock is his top shelf. But you're doing it yourself. Uh,
if it's something you're having your floor code with a
(44:22):
probably a polyuria is the direction I will go Larry
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You kick us off this hour.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Hello Gary, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You bet you.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I've been listening to been listening.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
To you for many many years.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
H My issue is I have an exposed aggregate porch.
It's about sixteen by twelve and I would like to
coat that with something to give it a smooth coating
and then apply a roller rock over that. Is there
a product that I can accomplish that with As far
as getting that smooth coating.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah. Has it been sealed recently? Tim, No, No, so
it's pretty dull. Yes, Okay, because I think you're your
biggest challenge. There's definitely coatings. The biggest challenge is since
a lot of it's stone and it's not a concrete
where there's capital aires to allow uh, the the coating
(02:05):
to bite into the surface. It's a denser, denser surface. Uh.
It makes it a little more challenging. You heard Peter
when he was talking about maybe using UH an acid.
He also talked about using a high pressure power washer.
(02:26):
And the product I'm thinking about is a product called
UH and Danny, you might have to look this up.
I've goofed it up a couple of times a day.
It was called rock patch or rock fix, and what
it is. It's a non sementatious, trillable resurfacer that can
(02:50):
be applied over you know, like pitted concrete and things
like that, and that would really be I think ideal
for going over the surface. There's all also some cementatious
resurfacing products. I know Quick Creep makes one called a resurfacer.
It's a powder. A little work on mixing it up,
(03:11):
but it can be a child with a squeegee or
a brush. I think the rock patch or rock fix
that I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It is rock Patch, Gary, rock Patch.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Thank you, yes you, rock patch, it's called and I
think that would be a better product because it's non cementations.
It's it's got better clinging power. It's also a dish product.
So what I would do is this, go to their website,
take a look at the rock patch and then take
(03:43):
a look at the roller rock. I know they live
in the same arena, so it will cover it. And
if you have any questions call them. It's kind of
a family owned business, so you know they'll help you
through it. And there's also a lot of frequently asked
question things on both of them and videos and things
(04:06):
like that. I've used, even though I couldn't remember the name,
but I used a rock patch for small divits out
of a concrete very easy to use. It's almost like
a you know, like a good butter and a tub
if you will.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Okay, well that work on vertical surface like the sides
of the porch.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It would. I haven't used it that way, but it would.
It's consistency would allow it to cling.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
I'm sure, okay, And I know they have another product
called spreadstone. Is that would the roller rock versus the spreadstone,
which was best for an outdoor application like this?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Do you know he called well, I'm confused on that too.
So he has an outdoor spreadstone and an outdoor roller rock.
I don't know if I've ever asked him what the
difference is, and they kind of go on the exact
same way. So you know, I know the spreadstone they
can use on countertops. That was one of his first products.
(05:05):
In fact, that was a product I had used a
couple of times before I having knew Peter and before
he ever sponsored the show, and it's a great product.
But I know the spreadstone he's talked about using on
walls in a bathroom, but he's talked about roller rock
more as a floor product. But I don't know if
the aggregate inside that, And that's kind of a misnomer too.
(05:29):
You know, it's called roller rock, but it's not like
you can see it. It's thick, it's heavy, but you
can't see like any aggregate. So I think this spreadstone
is probably just a smaller aggregate, less thick mixture.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Okay, all right, Well, thank you for your help.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Gary, all right, good luck, send pictures. All right again,
it's eight hundred and eight two three eight two five
five grab a line, Kevin, welcome. How are you to doing? Fine?
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
I got a nineteen fifties brick bungalow that's got a
brick stair case going into the front door, and at
grade level, I've got a couple of large holes right
where the side of the stair risers go into the building. Uh,
And planning that was taking to closing those areas up,
(06:24):
tossed a bunch of of mothballs into the in that
area to drive out any critters. And then notice that
the mothball smell permeated into the house. And I'm wondering, uh,
to fill that space. I was thinking of putting some
of the phone backer fill it covered over with huh,
(06:44):
you know, a silicone cock. But then I started thinking
maybe that, uh, those holes on either side of the
staircase are there for a reason, so thought maybe I
needed to use screen instead.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So how far up are they? I don't I don't
know of a reason, and they would be there, but
I'm curious. I was going to ask you anyway, how
did the holes get there.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Well, I don't know how they got there. They're at
grade level. They're probably about the size of your fist.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, so somebody's digging underneath there. So there's a critter
that got back there at one time.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Well, it's above grade. It's on both sides, and it
looks like it's kind of finished off, not something that
that dug through the at least they don't know the
critter is going to dig through through brick.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But no, no, it's not going to dig through brick.
But if it's if it is there meant to be
there for airflow or anything. I don't know if there's
a cross space there. They used to create ventilation for
cross space. Now they fully encapsulate so that wouldn't be needed.
But I like your theory first of maybe covering over
(07:50):
with a screen and and you know, making I'm surprised
you've never had critters down there.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Well, we've had mice, but not sure where they're coming from.
But this kind of said this might be where they're cutting.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
It could be because I I've got a stoop similar
you're talking about it. It's stamped concrete on the surface.
It's only one step. But I've had multiple times where
they dug under the slab. They're not digging through it,
but they just it's grade level and you know, all
of a sudden, there's got to be critters in there.
And what I did is I actually had a cementatious
(08:27):
growling pumped in there and made it solid, okay, And
because I was concerned about that settling. So it doesn't
sound like that's an issue for you. But I don't
know why it would be ventilated. So I feel, I mean,
(08:48):
if you wanted to put a screen in there and
just you know, as a cautionary thing, it's certainly not
going to hurt any but I would I would say
a close cell foam uh pumped in there would be
would be good okay, you know, all right, all right,
(09:11):
all right, good luck and and yeah, so there wouldn't
be no ventilation need unless it was to a cross
space or something. But he brought up a great, great point,
and I do want to talk about that, and that
was about the throwing mothballs under there to get the critter.
Soon he said that I'm going like, oh ho, gotcha,
(09:32):
don't do that. It will that smell will get into
the house. And really, when he was talking about throwing
the mothballs in there and then could smell it in
the house. I'm thinking like, well, maybe those holes are
there for ventilation, but I'm not so sure. I've seen that.
And if it's true the brick though, I don't know.
(09:55):
But if it's going there and then that smell from
the mothballs got into like the joist pockets and that
entered into the house, yeah, I would fill those. Uh,
and don't use mothballs because that smell does get in
the house. I've had numerous people call on that, so
(10:16):
eliminate that idea. All right again, uh little wait, I'll
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Welcome, Hello, how are you today?
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Doing fine?
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Thank you terrific.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
I was calling. I have used the Millsec products before.
I've heard about it via you absolutely love the furniture
polish and the leather cleaner. It cleaned up my leather
couch so well. I have a dog loves to jump
on the couch. But anyway, so the other day I
went and I purchased more of the furniture cleaner. I
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cleaned my bedroom furniture with it, and I didn't wet
the rag like you're supposed to do. I forgot to
do that, and I put it directly on the furniture
with a dry rag, and the smell is overwhelming. And
we're now on day three and I can't get that
(15:00):
smell out of my bedroom. Do you have any suggestions
of what I could do? Yeah?
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So it is an oil, so now it doesn't have
a silicone in it, but I know what you mean
in terms of but it's not water based either, so
it does have that's it does have an an odor
of lemon or I fingure what the other one is.
They make a holiday want a lemon and an orange?
Speaker 9 (15:26):
That's what it is, the orange smell.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah. So if you got a box fan or you
want you want to suck that air out of the house.
So if it's in a bedroom, open up the window,
turn the box fan around in reverse where it's pulling
air out.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Uh. I also have you know home purifiers that I've
been running in that bedroom. It's a very large, uh
four poster all wood bed. Yeah yeah, King's side.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
I mean it's a big Yeah, you got one just
like that.
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We can't move it anymore, but we got it. Have you?
So if you tried the fan, because just turning a
fan on doesn't remove it, you have to use it
so a fan is blowing, you know, like right in
your face, right, But if you turn that around, it
starts pulling the air out. So if you have i
(16:27):
don't know, another window on the other side or another
area of the house, you're you've got to replace the
air that you're pulling out. So that's you know, you
asked me what I would use. That's what I would use.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
Okay, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I would try that first. It takes you know, I
don't think it'd take more than three or four days.
But you said you got it on there three days ago.
So does it still look wet, does it look shiny
or is it right out?
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Well, the the posts you know, on the beds looks
still shiny. The headboard, I've been kind of watching it
like go, you know, suck into the wood, and it
is getting better every day. Yesterday I did take a
damn cloth and went all over the headboard again. It
(17:20):
seemed like it did help a little bit. But yeah,
I mean, and we you know, since yesterday was so
gorgeous here in Cincinnati, I had all the windows open
in the house and everything, and I've been running the fans.
A friend of ours suggested maybe using Murphy's Oil soap
on it. But I was hesitanting.
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Don't do that. Don't do that. That'll actually the Murphy's oilsop.
Actually lay a film over it. It may it really odor,
but it will cause problems with the oil versus like
the wax that would be in a Murphy's oil soap.
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I would really go with that fan. And if you
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that's a kind of a turn too. And I'll tell
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euthane surfaces, doesn't seem to dry as fast, so that
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And today looks like it'd be a great day to
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you very much. When we come back, we got Tony,
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of the air talking about your home and the investment
we make in it in terms of our time and
hopefully a little passion there. But if you have a home,
new or old, you'll work on it. That's for sure
that I hope you are working on it. Because if
(23:07):
something looks not right, peeling paint, it's it's not right.
There's a problem there. Pink just doesn't peel for fun,
and it doesn't always just peel because it's old. There's
a reason it's peeling. And I know all the paint
companies always talk about curb appeal and color of the year,
and it's all about the decor. It's really not. It's
(23:28):
a ceiling. It's protecting the substrate. So if it's peeling,
it's not that it just looks bad, which it does.
It's that something's going on there. You gotta find out
what it is and correct that issue. All right, let's
get to Tony. Tony welcome, Hey, Hey, doing doing good, Sarah,
Thanks great.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Listen. I've got an old house. It's milk back in
nineteen fifty nine ish, it has it. Where's the hardwood flower?
The I originally when I first purchased the house in
eighty or I'm sorry, in two thousand and three, I
went in and put a pargo floor down, and the
(24:11):
floor floated up. We're springing this time of the year.
The pargo kept floating up, kept breaking the pargo. So
I went in four years ago and put in a
three quarter inch hardwood floor on top of the original floor.
Took the pargo up replaced it. This flooring is also floating.
(24:33):
It's the time when we're not running heat the more
and we're not running ac it just I reckon, it's
getting so much moisture in the floor and it's just
floating my floor up. You can walk across my floor
and feel like you're walking on water sometimes.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah. Well, that's exactly what I was going to say.
Is the first question I was going to ask is
what's below that sub floor? Do you know? Is there?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay, so it's above it's.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, So it's so it is moisture. I mean, there's
no barrier over that dirt.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
No, No, there's no way of getting it under that house.
It's old rock foundation and it's all settled down into
the dirt.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, And is so with all the spring rains and
I know you've had plenty, Tony. Oh yeah, I'm sure
that's the issue. Now, how is that wood floor installed?
Is there a vapor barrier underneath the wood floor at all?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yes? Yes, I put a I put it down myself,
and I put down the phone padded stuff that they
recommend putting underneath the hardwood flowers. I'll put that down
on top of the original hardwood forest. And like I said,
agent lights every year, and I have cut expansion joints
(26:05):
in the in the new floor, thinking that I could
stop the expansion and stop the swelling, and it just
it keeps coming back every year.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So when you have this in the pergo too, you
know around the perimeter there should be a you know, at.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Least explosion gap.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, an expansion gap. You have that all installed also, correct, yes, sir, yes, yeah, yeah,
Well that's what's causing the problem, okay, is definitely moisture.
I guess I don't know exactly how much more expansion
we need to put on that perimeter, and that's where
(26:46):
that would be ideal to put it rather than cutting
in the middle of the floor. But that seems like
an awful large area of expansion. I'd like to know
what the moisture counts Isn't that would And you can,
you know, you can determine that there is a moisture
meter that's got two very fine almost like pins that
(27:10):
you can insert into the wood and they'll tell you
what the moisture count is. And again, even if it
tells you that and you call me and you say
it's ten, I'll go, well, that's too wet. You know,
what are we going to do about it? That's the question.
So the question wondering.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I was wondering if I could put out and try
to push something underneath of the floor of the house
from one side of the house to the other and
put vent pipes in, you know, like your bit drains
for French strains and stuff like that. If if that
(27:48):
would help get some myamily underneath.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Their Yeah, probably not, because what's what happens is it's
kind of a curse. First of all, if you don't
have remember the lady that just had that odor from
the mill sick And I was talking about the cross ventilation.
If you don't have something really pulling air out even
(28:10):
though there's holes, the only way it's going to work
is if there's a strong wind blowing through and pushing
out the other way. Okay, right, so then you get
a little ventilation. But then you got to ask yourself,
how often do you see that? And the big problem
with humidity is usually in the summer, especially like in Louisville,
(28:31):
the humidity in the summertimes fairly high, and it's usually static.
It's there is no wind. It's just soup, you know,
it's and and so those holes don't help at all.
In fact, they increase the humidity. So in cross spaces
and crawls in a lot of cases, standard building practices
not even to ventilate. Now, the whole big thing is
(28:54):
whole house encapsulation or crawl space encapsulation. And and that
would be what you'd want to do if it can
be done, and I you know, I know there's there's
different ways they can do it with different uh you know,
foams that they can pump in, and maybe do the
underside of the sub floor with a closed cell poam. Uh,
(29:18):
that would be a way to do that. Also putting
you know, even a four mili plastic barrier on the
floor itself to eliminate ground moisture. We don't even know
if there's standing water underneath that, and there may be,
and maybe we need to get a pump in there. Right,
(29:39):
So that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
All my grade, all my grade grades away from grains
away from my house. And the last time that I
was up underneath of the house, well I can't get
under it. And I have to take four up. When
I pulled the floor up trying to find the problem,
and it always seems like that the the original floor
is what's buckling up causing the rest of my the new.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Forward to the old rise and float well, And that
could be an issue too if that old floor has
been exposed to moisture for a period of time. And
I don't know is it is it plywood or is
it just bringing.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
No, it's the original. It's original oat plank.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, I mean it's oat plank. Is the so there
is no sub floor. The oat plank is the floor period.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's the floor period, right, Yeah, the original old floor
is still there. And of course back in the old
days they put a piece of light in the middle
of it, ain't around the border. And that's what I
went into when I first bought it. And I went
in and put the pargo down and it floated, and
I pulled it back up and put the hundred down.
(30:52):
It floated.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
You know, So does it go back down in the
winter time?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, well we go back down after I turned the
AC on. Yeah, you know, first, Junie, we turn the
AC back on and normally by the end it goes
back down. But until I turn the A C on,
I have a fling.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Is there any way to get a deumidifier underneath that
crawl area.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
No, I'm a big boy, but I can't get up
underneath there myself.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I just have to Well, I think the only way
we're going to be able to minimize some of that.
And it could be that the cause is still humidity.
It's just which wood is really taking it a run
for its money, and that original plank, since it's the
(31:46):
first line of defense, it could be swelling and just
pushing everything. But that doesn't really solve the problem. It
still comes back to eliminate the moisture from getting to
that plank, and it goes back to maybe calling somebody
in there that can do a I was going to
say injectable foam, but they can foam the They can
(32:09):
foam the underside of that subfloor with a closed cell
foam which is a moisture barrier, and that may settle
that whole thing down. You know. The other option is
really paying attention. I know, the AC's off, the furnaces off,
maybe the windows are open, but just see what the
(32:31):
humidity level is is inside your house, not in the
crawl space, not necessarily that room, just overall in the
house and you know, I consider this summertime, and you
know you you'd want it between forty and fifty five percent.
And you know, if you've got that in the house,
(32:51):
then the finger still points to that, you know, crawl area.
And to rectify that, I think it's really putting the
foam on the underside of that floor. And if they
can do it, but they got wands in different things,
and that might be the option.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Okay, all right, all right, decided to take up your time,
and I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You bet you take care, bye bye. It's frustrating. The
other thing is to maybe readjust that whole flooring where
we got maybe a half inch on the sides rather
than a quarter inch for it's so that it's not
going to buckle. Rather than trying to change the whole geography,
let's just give it more leeway. But he said he
cut expansion joints in the floor. I don't know how
(33:36):
that's going to work, but it's always around the perimeter
a quarter inch. Maybe we go to a half inch,
just an idea. All right, Joe, you'll be up. We
got Renee, we got Larry, and if you'd like to
join us, do so. It's eight hundred and eight two
three eight two five five. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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Thank you, Gary.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
How are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Doing fine? Thanks?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
YEA good good? A couple of questions for it? This
uh roller rock or spreadstone that this product? Can you
use that on a piece of plywood?
Speaker 10 (37:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
The spreadstone you can use it on furniture, So I
would assume you could use it on plywood. I would
seal the plywood before I used it, though, Yeah, do
you what do you got? What are you thinking about? Well?
Speaker 6 (37:27):
I have got a big air conditioning unit on my
deck that's kind of in a bad spot, and it's
pretty large, and it's right outside the door, and it looks,
you know, functional, but it's functional, but it doesn't look
so great. So like when someone comes over, I've got
this big, heavy, heavy duty piece of plywood that I
(37:50):
thought I would use and cover it, and you know,
you could use it to put your drinks on or
your you know, uh snack tray or something like that,
and you know maybe I would, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
So is it is it pretty noisy when you're sitting
out on that deck?
Speaker 6 (38:16):
It is? But it's if if we're out there, I
just turn it off. If it's if, it's a problem.
But I'll tell you what is noise he's sitting out there.
I had a competitor of your easy breathe put in
one of the systems, and the gentleman, I think he
(38:38):
put that thing in a bad spot, and it's right.
He put it in the spot that was easiest for
him to install it instead of where the the individual
has sold it to me suggested it go. And by golly,
that thing makes a noise and that is very annoying.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yes, here's a couple of my comments. First of all,
the easy Breathe, I can't hardly hear mine run, so
it sounds like they've got a little bigger fans, so
that maybe changing out the air faster. I just saying
that for people just don't think all you know, ventilation
systems are real noisy. But here's another thing, that compressor.
(39:22):
That's in the total worst place they can be. We
both agree on that. Can you put the spreadstone over
a wood surface, Yes, you can for that application it
would probably function just fine. But here's the big butt.
You can't cover up an air conditioner. Now. You said, well,
(39:45):
when I put it on there, we turn it off. Fine,
then you could, but that thing has got to be
off when that air conditioner's on there, because it functions
by the airflow. Many times. One of the tips I
talk about as a compressor that's outside, don't put a
fence right up against that thing. Don't let bushes grow
(40:06):
over it. It needs airflow. So if you're going to
turn it off and put that up and then take
it off and turn it back on, fine, but don't
put it up there and just leave it on there, right.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Right, good tip? Right, Yeah, Well we'll keep that in mind.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, So if you want to use a spreadstone on that,
it doesn't look like it's going to be on a floor,
so it's not going to take much wear and tear.
I would say, yeah, if you wanted to put the
spreadstone right on top of that to cover that up
on that, you'll be fine.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
Good, good, Thank you another question why I have it? Gary.
This week, I'm getting new driveway, garage floor, front step,
sidewalk get in concrete, and I was wondering how long
would I have to wait to put some sort of
a cording on the floor in the garage, you know,
(41:02):
as long as I've got everything out of the garage,
it would be very convenient to you know, have a
company come in and, you know, put something down here.
I haven't researched it, but usually the.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Rule of thumb is and there's so many different coatings now,
you know, there's a POxy, probly, your urea's acrylics, et cetera,
et cetera. But a good rule of thumb is on
fresh concrete, twenty eight days. Okay, that's considered a full cure,
knowing quite honestly, concrete cures forever. But at twenty eight
(41:38):
days is when you could code it.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Okay, Well, I don't think I can keep all my stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
On probably not, probably not, but you can be pretty
organized to when you're putting it in, you know where
you could move it out again. But I mean, twenty
eight days for green concrete is a good rule to
live by.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
Yeah, and generally it's a couple of days before you come,
or a day and a half or whatever to walk
on it.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Or.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
It depends. You know, when I set a poxies, poxies
are going to be a day, day and a half.
The polyurea's probably a day, some of the acrylics probably
a couple hours. But in all honestly, putting stuff back
in on it, I'd probably wait a couple of days,
you know, to bring stuff and start putting them back
(42:28):
in there.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
Sure do you have a preference for end of products you.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Just mentioned, Well, it really depends on what you want
to spend, how long you went to last, et cetera.
I would say, right now, in the horse race, it
would probably be in an industrial POxy or a polyurea
for longevity. On the other hand, you got to think
(42:53):
that for a decent sized garage, it might be four
or five thousand and six thousand dollars some of you
or crylics. You're like, when we were talking about the
roller rock, that's sixty five bucks a gallon. I'm trying
to think he told me what the coverage was during
our conversation. I forget what it was. It was like
fifty one hundred square feet or fifty square feet. I
(43:15):
can't remember. I thought I may have note of it.
I have to look at my notes. Let's see. Hold on,
I know I wrote it down eighty square feet, eighty
square feet to a gallon, and it was sixty bucks.
And it was like one hundred and sixty five for
a three gallon pail. So that's gonna be the least expensive.
(43:37):
He said, about five to ten years, you'd be doing
your own work on it, and you're still gonna you're
still gonna do twenty eight days and I and he
said the drying time on that was about three to
four hours, so probably the next day, you know, twenty
four hours, give it twenty four hours before he starts
sitting stuff on it, I think would be a good number.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, yeah, okay, go ahead, all right, Hey, thanks, thanks
very much.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
You're quite welcome. Thank you. Take care and uh yeah,
i'd say right now leading the horse race. I mean,
if you want something to last super super super long,
I mean that for the price the dice coding's roller
rock is his top shelf. But you're doing it yourself. Uh,
if it's something you're having your floor code with a
(44:22):
probably a polyuria is the direction I will go Larry
and Renee. You'll be first up on the other side
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