August 4, 2024 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, the weekends upon us and welcome. You're at Home
with Gary Salvian and s. I was backing by Roto
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Home with Gary Sullivan. All right, we'll be off and
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Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's eight hundred eight two three eight.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Two five five. It's eight hundred eight two three eight
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It's at Home with Gary Sullivan. All right, So what
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what in the world should we be working on today?
We're kind of at that season, aren't we. We're a
lot of folks have taken their vacations. Schools not ready
to start, but getting pretty close. Some schools I guess
are starting this week. It's hard to believe, but we
got to start talking about some of the projects we
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didn't finish this summer, or projects we certainly should tackle,
or maybe looking down the road, maybe bigger projects that
we want to tackle on The fall falls a great
time to do projects. She just seems like he had
a little bit more time and the weather relaxes a
little bit, and uh uh, maybe we're not all inspired
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as much in the fall. There's other distractions and it's
a good time to really think about deck building and
deck staining. It's perfect time to paint. And so we'll
be chatting about some of those things today along with
your calls. So go ahead and grab a line, and
Andreya is going to kick us off for the day. Andrea, welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think she's having issues with her phone.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
She's having issues with her phone. I say she was
on hold and then she's calling back. So we'll see
if we can get her on there and chat about
what she's working. And she's got issues with a toilet,
and that's not an issue you want to have for sure.
All right, So you know other simple things we canna
do this time of year, especially as has has been.
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I know a lot of air conditioners are running. Get
that filter changed. If it's been you know, two three months,
I would certainly switch that thing out. And uh, you'll
just make your air handler and your air conditioner works
so much better and cost you less money because it'll
be able to satisfy that thermostat a little faster. They'll
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put that on your list today. All right, Andrea, you
kick us off today.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Oh oh, hi, okay, this is Andrea. So I have
a problem. I don't know how to say all this
first time. Color. So I've got home with two bathrooms
and one has each have a sour tub, and one
of the toilets seems to get really dirty mold and
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mildew underneath the rim. Okay, with the goals are with
return comes and the other one's fine. So I don't
shower much in the one that has the toilet build
up of mildew, and I do shower in the other one.
So the other one doesn't have that happen. And so
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I'm wondering what would cause it's a pretty big, thick
black mold, mildew thing around, you know, and I have
to get under the air and scrub it with the
plumae stone and all that, and I don't have to
do that with the other bathroom.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I don't know what would be causing that. You say,
the one that gets that black film is the one
that you don't shower in is often, or you do
shower in as often.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I do not shower, so.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It sets more stagnant. I don't know, you know. I mean,
obviously there's a lot of water and humidity in that area,
and you know, I would assume that's what's causing it.
I don't know why one's doing it and the other
one isn't. Probably just from lack of use. You're not
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rinsing that thing through as often.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Well, I've used each bathroom often enough, you.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Know, all right, Well I don't I don't think.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I don't think. I might have an answer of
why it's happening. I can find you something that's easier
to use than a pum.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Stone, though, Okay, I don't use the event in the
bathroom that has that build up as often since I
don't shower in it. So maybe maybe just.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Turning it on occasionally will help. I don't know, is
it Does it feel more stuffy in there? Does it
feel more humid in there?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Do not to me. No, it doesn't feel any difference.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Again, you're not using an event because the shower is
not on, so there's not a huge increase in humidity.
I just I really don't. I don't have an answer
of why that's accumulating there and not in the other one.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Oh okay, Well that you were going to give me
a product.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, well, you hear me talk about and it's a
new product within the last two years. You hear me
talk about Jaws Cleaners a lot, and they've got a
cream cleanser that is really second to none. It is outstanding,
and I've used you know, we find different toilets in
our home too. There's one in our basement that gets
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dirtier than the rest from the same kind of thing
as you're describing, and it was really difficult to get
that clean in The Jaws cream cleanser did a great job.
So if you want to try something a little bit
easier than a pummy stone, save you some time and
not be as annoying, I'd recommend that.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Okay, well that's helpful. So I'm going to try putting
the event on in there.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. I wouldn't leave it on all the time, but
maybe just turn it on for an hour a day.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, I'll try that and state it because now right now,
clean friend mine, good friend mine cleaned it up for me,
and he's got more muscle strength and such. Can you
reach and do more? Very good, So I'll try that.
It's called jaws, yes.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And the website is Jaws cleans dot com and it's
cream cleanser, cream cleanser, sorry, but it does good job clean.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Okay, all right, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You're far welcome. Thanks, take care. Just to talk about
that a little bit. There is other things that could
be going on. She use the term mold mildew. There
is also a magnesium that's in water, especially we find
it in a well sometimes that will create a black
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shadowing in a toilet and left really un scrub for
a period of time or not used very often, it
will get bigger and thicker and harder to get clean.
It could be that we also have in a lot
of water systems we have a lot of chlorine, and
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chlorine will break down the rubber gaskets, it'll break down
the rubber floats. The flapper, it'll break that down, and
it'll create a shadowing which will also get a little
heavier and darker. Not to say it's not mold and mildew.
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She seemed to think that's definitely what it was, and
it could be that is also an issue. So I
just wanted to let you know that cream cleanser will
do a really good job of cleaning up both of
those issues, and I would recommend that. And certainly the
pummy stone is an excellent product to get rid of
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that really difficult gunk, but a little bit harder to
work on it. Cream cleansers is just a little bit easier.
But why one toil is doing it and the other
one isn't. It may have been affected a little bit
more by the quote magnesium or the chlorine in the water.
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Taking your hand flushing the toilet and putting your hand
in the closet and just touching the flapper and stuff,
and just see if there's a film that comes off
on your hand, and if that's the case, go ahead
and replace that. Maybe that's the cause of it. Probably is, actually,
and there is a brand of flapper that doesn't break
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down with chlorine. It's a Corky is the name of
the brand, and it's a red flapper. It's a very
chlorine resistant and that might be something you want to
switch out to. All right. Our phone number's eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five place to grab
a line have a chat about your home project as
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we work our way through the weekend. You're at Home
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Speaker 1 (12:51):
All right, back at it, We go at home with
Gary Sullivan taking your calls for during your home projects.
And one of the things I just heard a commercial
on was eliminating carpenter bees. And in many parts of
the country they're finished their cycle. Some parts of the country,
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cooler parts of the country, they're still, you know, buzzing
around your wood deck and your storage shed. But if
you do not see any more activity, whether you eliminate
them with the trap or whether they have just went
through their cycle, this is the perfect time to fill
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the holes that they created. If you remember, back in
the springtime, I was always talking about how to use
the trap it attracts the centuries, it starts eliminating. Then
they'll starve out the queen. The larvae will either die
in the wood or they will have hatched and moved on.
And I always talked about patching and sterilizing, but you know,
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as long as the queen's alive in there, you can't
really patch it. I mean, she will chew her way
out of it. I don't care whether it's cocking or
what you put in there. But now that activity is
pretty much wrapped up, and now is the time to
really get in there and sterilize that again. If you
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take a little spritzer bottle rubbing alcohol and get that
back in that hole.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And then you can come in with acrylic silken ized
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Speaker 1 (14:53):
Bond quickwood. Both of those would work really good. So
if you're not seeing that activity that you saw in
the in the springtime, go ahead and make your patches now.
If you don't make the patching, don't sterilize it, they'll
probably be back next year. Catherine. Welcome, Catherine, Oh, Catherine.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Hell, Yes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I didn't hear you switched to me. I had a
cough there.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I apologize, all right. What a wonderful man you are
a wealth of knowledge. I've been listening to you for many,
many years, on and on.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
But I usually not up this early. I live on
the West coast.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh, okay, I have a question.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
I have Capital A Capital R Capital C shower system
put in okay, nine years ago, the base and it's
before they put their linear disc linear drain in, you know,
back with the off nut drain, and it's a circular drain.
And I'm to the process. I've lost help over the years,
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and I want to finish it. And what I've done
is uh, I'm to the process where I'm wanting to
sell it. And I've already installed the party backer borders
that I used, Okay, but I haven't done any of
the silling and the leveling and all that.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And I want to know you're you're.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
I don't know if you know anything about it. But
they push to use their killant because it's you know,
an unique kind of system and they guarantee it. And mine,
of course, the one I got when I first got
the the the True Deck. It's called True Deck Art,
True Deck Classic Formed. Uh, it's gotten bad and now
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there's no longer people out here in Washington that deal
with it, so I would have.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
To order it from the company, which would be no problem.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
My problem is, how do I know if that's true?
Speaker 7 (16:57):
And if that's true?
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Do I do it all? So on the walls and
the and the scenes from the hardy backboard.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, so let me let me. You're asking me what
adhesive to use or ceilant to use or what what? What?
What are we trained to?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
So so this system, the art Shower system, they make
their own celant Okay, you know, they go through the
process of how you do it as several layers, and
they make their own strips. You don't put in the corners,
put on the on the seams, and they say that
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this is over the years that you need to use
their system because it's designed.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
For their Well yeah, so let's let me just interject
something number one. I'm not really super familiar with that
whole setup, but I'll tell you this and you've probably
heard me say it over the years. Even when I
talk about paint primers, I always talk about staying within
the system. And the reason I say that is many times,
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if you get on their website and you read all
about their warranties and what they cover, it'll always go
back to if you stayed in that system. So you know,
and I don't know what that ceiling is, there's probably
something you can go into the hardware store and buy
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something very similar to whatever that is. And I don't
know what that is, whether it's like a construction adhesive
or whether it's an acrylic siliconized ceiling or something along
those lanes. But I just stay within their system. I
think it's an easy answer.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Is stay within the system, and then if you have problems,
they're not going to say, well, you didn't use what we.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Told you to use.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Okay, Okay, I hear you, and I agree with you.
I just wanted to another person. Is expensive. It's like
probably I need you know, it's like three hundred dollars
plus they have to mal it to me because it
no longer carries it Jarry Washington. But the other thing
is I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
You have to go.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'll put you on hold.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
If you can hang on, I'll get you on the
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Speaker 1 (19:19):
We'll finish with your second question. By the way, if
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Speaker 1 (22:26):
All right, back at it. We go thirty three minutes
after the.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Top of the hour, talking a little home improvement and
glad you could join me.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I appreciate that. And if you got to question dolls up,
it's eight hundred and eighty two three eight two five
five and we're talking with Catherine, and Catherine you had
a second question, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
So I know you worked with Hardy Backerboard in the past,
and this is kind of to relate because it's the
shower now room, and you know how they recommend, at
least what I've read, they recommended using a feeling and
then using the strips of not netting, but whatever you
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call it. Yes, thank you, the tape and to reinforce it.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
I've done that in the past and I've had trouble
with it. And so this company, the shower company, recommends
just using their UH and the crylic.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I can't remember right now, and I try to go
on the website to give you the exact information and
their maintenance. I know it's just like one thing.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
If this ever gets done, it's going to be the
nine lives of the shower. So anyway, they recommend just
using their acrylic on the on the crack and then
using this tape and fillan that they recommend with their system.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
What would you recommend?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, I mean, I get you with that netting and
that netting tape can sometimes be a little problemsome. So
they obviously are acknowledged and that also, and it sounds
like they have maybe even a little bit more of
a waterproofing system or a better adhering system. And i'd
probably again, you know, I'd probably stay in the system
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and use their recommended products. And they're developed exactly for
what they're trying to build or what they're offering.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
You to build, right right, And then if you have
a window in that system, would you do their products?
On the window bill.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I would, I would for sure.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Okay, okay, think and one more real fast questions.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I bought a new window for this bathroom years ago.
I don't know how many, five, six, no, man, And
it has a little tap screw that came out. It's
rand new, it's barely been used.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
Where do you get those little tap screws?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Have those? So it's a thread cutting screw, you.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Know, it's been a while. I just was kicking your
brains as I had you.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
But it's just a really short screw.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
It doesn't have any bolts or anything in it, and
it just pulls the handle on.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
And it was loose and broken from the beginning. So
I can't tell you.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
You know where you.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Might need a larger one. If you can take the
other one out, take it to the hardware store, get
that size and then get the next diameter up their size,
like a number six screw, number eight screw, number ten screw.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
And just go to the next stop.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's probably a self tapping screw and they'll have they'll
have a little drawer full of them.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Okay, well, thank you your godsend I give How can
I give you a raise some way?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Now? No raises today. Very good, Thanks Catherine. I appreciate
it all right.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Our phone number is eight hundred and eight two three
eight two five five.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Let's got a Randy. Randy welcome. How are you?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
How are you doing fine? Thanks good.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
I caught the tail end of you talking about the
carpenter bees. I've been an exterminator for over thirty years
and I've learned something from one of our customers. He
had eaves on a two story house that were tongue
in grooves. Would that were beautiful with carpenter bees? And
he asked me if we could do anything and naturally
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up on a two story house, you can't sit and
spray each individual hole and kill him, right. So he's
a termint customers that we check his house every year.
I went back the following year and he told me
he found a solution for him. He took linseed oil
raw linseed oil and sprayed that wood and he's never
had a problem with him again. I've recommended it several
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times to different people, and it seems to work. If
you can get to it the wood that's exposed, sprayed
lindseedal on it or painted on them. It does this
color of the wood a little bit, but it keeps
the carpenter bees away from that wood.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, and I can't say I heard about lindseed oil,
but I do know for a fact on a lot
of different studies. I kind of work with a company
called Rescue and they do a lot of different insect traps.
They do a tremendous carpenter bee trap, and I do
know that carpenter bees love to penetrate wood that is
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stained and not painted, and that's why we see so
many of money sheds and things. So really, you know,
if you go back fifty years, you know all your
paints were linseed oil, which was fla seed and functions
as a paint, right, it's a preservative. And so just
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taking two plus two, I'm getting four. Also coding with
a linseed or I'll probably do the same thing.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Yeah, it does. I'll take his house every year. And
this has probably been ten years ago that I first
talked to him about it, and he's never had a
problem with him since. Well, and I've recommended it many
times and been back to talk to people and still
no carpenter bees.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Good for you. You. I like that tip. I like that tip. Yeah,
I was kind of saying. Now a lot of them
carpenter bee's are pretty much done, as you know. And
those holes that are up there, even if you take.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Little cotton balls, that's what I do, cotton balls. Put
a little rubbing alcohol and stuff the cotton ball back
in there, and then make your patch. And uh, you know,
if you got the linseed oil on there, put a
little linse seed over that the patch too. Plus you
sterilize the hole and you're not going to have them
back right.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
So it's a little kip I thought in there.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I appreciate Randy. Thanks, take care of bye bye. All
right again it's eight one hundred eighty two three eight two.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Five five grab line talking about your home and Bill welcome.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Hey, good morning, Gary morning. I've got a floor problem.
I've got a real hardwood pre finished plank or I
guess you would call it, but it is real wood,
very thin veneer stuff moving a refrigerator around. I put
a sanded put three coats of polyrathane minlax polythane on it.
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I taped off the area so I wouldn't second sand
exactly where I needed. My problem now is it looks beautiful.
It came out great, but there is of course a
step up where I put the blue tape down and
the three coats of polyer thing. I have a Milwaukee
Polisher buffer, and I cannot get that that thickness of
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the polyrathane down the flows into the pre finished wood
floor that was already there. I've tried pour off steel
woll got a little more aggressive with the two twenty
sand paper, but nothing seems to really do it. Is
there a solvent and I could just put on it
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with my finger or with a rag right at that
edge to kind of melt that back down to the
height of the floor itself.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Well, to answer your question, is there, yes, it would
be like a paint stripper. And I think what you're
gonna do is you're gonna make that You're gonna remove it,
and you're gonna make it cloudy.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
And I don't think it's really an option. I really
think what you would You're gonna hate my answer.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You almost have to, yeah, exactly exactly, And I think
that's kind of where you're at.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I just don't know, you know, I guess you could
take it in sand that whole area with a very
extrafying paper. You might try something like a four hundred
grid or even a six hundred grid wet dry paper.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
And.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You know, maybe even go a bigger area. So the
one part you're gonna work on minimizing the film. The
other area you're just gonna rough up to finish a
little bit, and then you're gonna recoat that. You know,
that area that you're working on. How far out you
have to go though, Bill, I don't know what that's
going to look like. The thing is is when ever
(31:11):
you're making a patch, and I feel your pain because
I've got wood floors and they moved out of refrigerator
about six months ago. It actually was so heavy it
dented the oak floor.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Well, that's what that's what this was. But it's on
the land. That's what I should have done was taped
to the end of each board, or or made myself
a tape line across the board, and it would look
it would look like the distance or the line between
two boards, right, It would not It would not have showed.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Up at all.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Right, So you forgot to call.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Me that When I started this point, I didn't call you.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Well I may have forgot anyway, So I mean, yeah,
I know you don't want to go back, but it's
still salvageable. Right.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Well, let's put it this way. It looks one hundred
percent better than it did right with the scratches. The
scratches were really bad. Uh, and you all they almost theyway.
But now I got this dmotation line. Maybe we walk
walk around the house with sandpaper on our shoes and try.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The wet dry paper.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Seriously, I mean it's a little bit, uh you know,
try it in an inconspicuous place and see what it's
going to do. But like, if you're going to uh
reureuthane a floor, one of the things I would do
is use a four hundred, maybe even a six hundred
(32:43):
little even finer you know, of a wet dry paper
where you're going to be able to remove some but
you know, maybe use the four hundred where the ridge
is a little higher, and then just six hundred.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
They tell me because I I tried to get professionals
to come and no one would touch it. He says,
you cannot refinish that floor. And I understand that I can.
I can get it about ninety percent better, right, which
they want to mess with because they knew my wife
wouldn't be satisfied with ninety percent, so they weren't going
to touch it. But it turned out. Okay, I will
try your six hundred grid. I was surprised that the
(33:22):
four hot steel wool when I used it. Even my
big lambs little buffer doesn't really want to take a
lot of that out. I'm afraid I'm going to make
it worse than what I start.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Well, yeah, it's a fine line. But you can remember
four hot steel wool they use on glass, so it's
pretty fine. I mean a window washer will use water
and soap and four hot steel wool to clean a
window from like tree sap. So your four hundred grid
wet dry paper is probably comparable to a two hot
(33:57):
steel wool, and your six hundred may be three outs,
so it's a little bit stronger stuff.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Okay, that's the black stuff, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yes, sir, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I've got some Hey, thank you, I'll give that a
try to see see what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Good luck, Thank you. All right, lines are open. We
just chatted with Bill, and if you've been trying to
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All right, back in it we go at home with
Gary Solvent ten minutes before the top of the hour,
talking a little home improvement, and back to the phones
we go. David, Welcome, How you doing? Gary doing fine, sir?
Speaker 9 (37:37):
Thanks a beautiful day out there.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Sure is.
Speaker 9 (37:41):
Hey, I I want to paint the brick on my house, okay,
last twenty years and I think it's going to happen.
And I was. I've done a lot of painting in
my life, but I've never painted brick. Okay, So what
do I need to know? Like what type of nap
(38:03):
should I use? And do I need the primate or yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, probably the biggest thing, you know, with all painting,
the number one thing is prep right, preparations the key.
So with brick, you know, there's a lot of different
kinds of brick, a lot of different ages of brick
which were made differently. You know, bricks around the early
nineteen hundreds were usually made literally right on site. And
(38:31):
there's a different.
Speaker 9 (38:32):
House a'm in. It is built in forty one. It's
like a smooth brick.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Ah, that's good. You gave me the perfect Yeah, you
gave me the perfect thing. I really. You know, it's
tough when you have reclaimed brick and stuff, when you
have brick that's made right on site. It's tough when
it's a wire cut brick. But what you got should
paint pretty easily.
Speaker 9 (38:53):
That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, do a little test though, to get a piece
of white cloth and rub it across that brick, because
brick does chalk, but not all the time. Depends really
how hard that brick is, and if it is, the
red comes off the brick and onto the cloth. We
(39:17):
definitely want to maybe really concentrate on removing as much
of that surface residue as we can. And if it.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Doesn't chalk, you just want to make sure it's clean,
dust free and all that. They'll definitely be dust on.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
It, and then I would use an acrylic bonding primer
or if you know a Sherman Williams or a you know,
Ben Moore has a specific brick primer that is recommended
on the finished coat pain can you might inquire about that. Otherwise,
(39:56):
just a standard acrylic exterior bonding primer on net brick,
and then you know your top of the line paints
are so awesome anymore, whether it is a Ben Moore
or Porter paint or you know Sherman Williams, they all
have these top of the line where there's self priming.
(40:16):
I know Sherman Williams is the Emerald House paint, which
is self priming.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
And it's okay that you've got a bonding primer on there,
and you're using a paint with a primer.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
What if I just.
Speaker 9 (40:32):
Wanted to put what if I just wanted to paint,
I don't want to do it in two steps if
I can avoid it, and if I I'd be willing
to go back over it with two coats of paint
versus putting a primer on.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Well, so, so you would be required to do that.
So if you had if you use the Sherman Williams Emerald.
Speaker 9 (40:54):
Paint, I've used that before.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Okay, and then you would have to use two codes
of that, okay if you were going to use a
bonding primer, and you would you could get by with
one coat okay, so and and a lot and I
would say, if you've got a lot of chalking off.
Speaker 9 (41:18):
There, and you I don't think I do.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
You probably don't. On that brick, you probably don't. If
it was reclaimed brick, i'd say you probably do. I'm
pretty yeah. Yeah, But either two coats of the paint
with a primer or a bonding primer, and then a
coat with a primer.
Speaker 9 (41:38):
All right, all right, that's all I need to know. Yeah,
thank you man, all.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Right, thank you, take care bye bye. Yeah. And on brick,
if it were chalking, you get rid of the chalk,
do a bonding primer, and then still do two coats
of the emeralds. So it really depends on what kind
of shape you're actually doing. Do a good look see
on that brick too, and based on the age of
(42:03):
that house, probably not gonna have many problems. Man, those
brick houses that they've built back then they were they
were that was good work. But check for any missing
mortar and just make sure you got a good, clean,
bondable surface, and you shouldn't have that much problem at all.
As far as the nap, it sounded like he was
(42:27):
going to roll it. It's really going to depend again,
if it's smooth, probably three ace of a nap, you're
probably gonna have to come by and.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Do all the mortar joints first, or if you want
to try a five a snap, But if that brick's
real smooth, you could almost get like an orange peel
effect because its almost too much paint on the smooth part,
and then it wouldn't be enough paint in the more joints.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
So you got a couple options. You can just paint
or cut the mortar joints in and then come back
and do your surface cutting with a three eighth or
a half inch cover if you want to try and
get the h and you can try at the bottom
down at the lower part of the house and just
see how well and what kind of finish it lays
(43:16):
down with a five ace inch nap on the roller
be really ideal. If we could spray it, that would
give you a really good look, and that might be
something you want to consider with some of the sprayers
that are out there. A lot taping, but it also
the speed for the field goes a lot faster also.
(43:36):
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It's at Home with Gary Sullivan. All right, So what
(01:36):
what in the world should we be working on today?
We're kind of at that season, aren't we. We're a
lot of folks have taken their vacations. Schools not ready
to start, but getting pretty close. Some schools I guess
are starting this week. It's hard to believe, but we
got to start talking about some of the projects we
(01:57):
didn't finish this summer, or projects we certainly should tackle,
or maybe looking down the road, maybe bigger projects that
we want to tackle on The fall falls a great
time to do projects. She just seems like he had
a little bit more time and the weather relaxes a
little bit, and uh uh, maybe we're not all inspired
(02:20):
as much in the fall. There's other distractions and it's
a good time to really think about deck building and
deck staining. It's perfect time to paint. And so we'll
be chatting about some of those things today along with
your calls. So go ahead and grab a line, and
Andreya is going to kick us off for the day. Andrea, welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think she's having issues with her phone.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
She's having issues with her phone. I say she was
on hold and then she's calling back. So we'll see
if we can get her on there and chat about
what she's working. And she's got issues with a toilet,
and that's not an issue you want to have for sure.
All right, So you know other simple things we canna
do this time of year, especially as has has been.
(03:06):
I know a lot of air conditioners are running. Get
that filter changed. If it's been you know, two three months,
I would certainly switch that thing out. And uh, you'll
just make your air handler and your air conditioner works
so much better and cost you less money because it'll
be able to satisfy that thermostat a little faster. They'll
(03:26):
put that on your list today. All right, Andrea, you
kick us off today.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Oh oh, hi, okay, this is Andrea. So I have
a problem. I don't know how to say all this
first time. Color. So I've got home with two bathrooms
and one has each have a sour tub, and one
of the toilets seems to get really dirty mold and
(03:55):
mildew underneath the rim. Okay, with the goals are with
return comes and the other one's fine. So I don't
shower much in the one that has the toilet build
up of mildew, and I do shower in the other one.
So the other one doesn't have that happen. And so
(04:19):
I'm wondering what would cause it's a pretty big, thick
black mold, mildew thing around, you know, and I have
to get under the air and scrub it with the
plumae stone and all that, and I don't have to
do that with the other bathroom.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I don't know what would be causing that. You say,
the one that gets that black film is the one
that you don't shower in is often, or you do
shower in as often.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I do not shower, so.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It sets more stagnant. I don't know, you know. I mean,
obviously there's a lot of water and humidity in that area,
and you know, I would assume that's what's causing it.
I don't know why one's doing it and the other
one isn't. Probably just from lack of use. You're not
(05:08):
rinsing that thing through as often.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Well, I've used each bathroom often enough, you.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Know, all right, Well I don't I don't think.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I don't think. I might have an answer of
why it's happening. I can find you something that's easier
to use than a pum.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Stone, though, Okay, I don't use the event in the
bathroom that has that build up as often since I
don't shower in it. So maybe maybe just.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Turning it on occasionally will help. I don't know, is
it Does it feel more stuffy in there? Does it
feel more humid in there?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Do not to me. No, it doesn't feel any difference.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Again, you're not using an event because the shower is
not on, so there's not a huge increase in humidity.
I just I really don't. I don't have an answer
of why that's accumulating there and not in the other one.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Oh okay, Well that you were going to give me
a product.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, well, you hear me talk about and it's a
new product within the last two years. You hear me
talk about Jaws Cleaners a lot, and they've got a
cream cleanser that is really second to none. It is outstanding,
and I've used you know, we find different toilets in
our home too. There's one in our basement that gets
(06:29):
dirtier than the rest from the same kind of thing
as you're describing, and it was really difficult to get
that clean in The Jaws cream cleanser did a great job.
So if you want to try something a little bit
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Speaker 3 (06:48):
Okay, well that's helpful. So I'm going to try putting
the event on in there.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. I wouldn't leave it on all the time, but
maybe just turn it on for an hour a day.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, I'll try that and state it because now right now,
clean friend mine, good friend mine cleaned it up for me,
and he's got more muscle strength and such. Can you
reach and do more? Very good, So I'll try that.
It's called jaws, yes.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And the website is Jaws cleans dot com and it's
cream cleanser, cream cleanser, sorry, but it does good job clean.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Okay, all right, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You're far welcome. Thanks, take care. Just to talk about
that a little bit. There is other things that could
be going on. She use the term mold mildew. There
is also a magnesium that's in water, especially we find
it in a well sometimes that will create a black
(07:55):
shadowing in a toilet and left really un scrub for
a period of time or not used very often, it
will get bigger and thicker and harder to get clean.
It could be that we also have in a lot
of water systems we have a lot of chlorine, and
(08:17):
chlorine will break down the rubber gaskets, it'll break down
the rubber floats. The flapper, it'll break that down, and
it'll create a shadowing which will also get a little
heavier and darker. Not to say it's not mold and mildew.
(08:38):
She seemed to think that's definitely what it was, and
it could be that is also an issue. So I
just wanted to let you know that cream cleanser will
do a really good job of cleaning up both of
those issues, and I would recommend that. And certainly the
pummy stone is an excellent product to get rid of
(08:59):
that really difficult gunk, but a little bit harder to
work on it. Cream cleansers is just a little bit easier.
But why one toil is doing it and the other
one isn't. It may have been affected a little bit
more by the quote magnesium or the chlorine in the water.
(09:20):
Taking your hand flushing the toilet and putting your hand
in the closet and just touching the flapper and stuff,
and just see if there's a film that comes off
on your hand, and if that's the case, go ahead
and replace that. Maybe that's the cause of it. Probably is, actually,
and there is a brand of flapper that doesn't break
(09:45):
down with chlorine. It's a Corky is the name of
the brand, and it's a red flapper. It's a very
chlorine resistant and that might be something you want to
switch out to. All right. Our phone number's eight hundred
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All right, back at it, We go at home with
Gary Sullivan taking your calls for during your home projects.
And one of the things I just heard a commercial
on was eliminating carpenter bees. And in many parts of
the country they're finished their cycle. Some parts of the country,
(13:12):
cooler parts of the country, they're still, you know, buzzing
around your wood deck and your storage shed. But if
you do not see any more activity, whether you eliminate
them with the trap or whether they have just went
through their cycle, this is the perfect time to fill
(13:32):
the holes that they created. If you remember, back in
the springtime, I was always talking about how to use
the trap it attracts the centuries, it starts eliminating. Then
they'll starve out the queen. The larvae will either die
in the wood or they will have hatched and moved on.
And I always talked about patching and sterilizing, but you know,
(13:56):
as long as the queen's alive in there, you can't
really patch it. I mean, she will chew her way
out of it. I don't care whether it's cocking or
what you put in there. But now that activity is
pretty much wrapped up, and now is the time to
really get in there and sterilize that again. If you
(14:17):
take a little spritzer bottle rubbing alcohol and get that
back in that hole.
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Bond quickwood. Both of those would work really good. So
if you're not seeing that activity that you saw in
the in the springtime, go ahead and make your patches now.
If you don't make the patching, don't sterilize it, they'll
probably be back next year. Catherine. Welcome, Catherine, Oh, Catherine.
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Hell, Yes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I didn't hear you switched to me. I had a
cough there.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I apologize, all right. What a wonderful man you are
a wealth of knowledge. I've been listening to you for many,
many years, on and on.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
But I usually not up this early. I live on
the West coast.
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Oh, okay, I have a question.
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I have Capital A Capital R Capital C shower system
put in okay, nine years ago, the base and it's
before they put their linear disc linear drain in, you know,
back with the off nut drain, and it's a circular drain.
And I'm to the process. I've lost help over the years,
(15:59):
and I want to finish it. And what I've done
is uh, I'm to the process where I'm wanting to
sell it. And I've already installed the party backer borders
that I used, Okay, but I haven't done any of
the silling and the leveling and all that.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And I want to know you're you're.
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I don't know if you know anything about it. But
they push to use their killant because it's you know,
an unique kind of system and they guarantee it. And mine,
of course, the one I got when I first got
the the the True Deck. It's called True Deck Art,
True Deck Classic Formed. Uh, it's gotten bad and now
(16:48):
there's no longer people out here in Washington that deal
with it, so I would have.
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To order it from the company, which would be no problem.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
My problem is, how do I know if that's true?
Speaker 7 (16:57):
And if that's true?
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Do I do it all? So on the walls and
the and the scenes from the hardy backboard.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, so let me let me. You're asking me what
adhesive to use or ceilant to use or what what? What?
What are we trained to?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
So so this system, the art Shower system, they make
their own celant Okay, you know, they go through the
process of how you do it as several layers, and
they make their own strips. You don't put in the corners,
put on the on the seams, and they say that
(17:41):
this is over the years that you need to use
their system because it's designed.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
For their Well yeah, so let's let me just interject
something number one. I'm not really super familiar with that
whole setup, but I'll tell you this and you've probably
heard me say it over the years. Even when I
talk about paint primers, I always talk about staying within
the system. And the reason I say that is many times,
(18:11):
if you get on their website and you read all
about their warranties and what they cover, it'll always go
back to if you stayed in that system. So you know,
and I don't know what that ceiling is, there's probably
something you can go into the hardware store and buy
(18:32):
something very similar to whatever that is. And I don't
know what that is, whether it's like a construction adhesive
or whether it's an acrylic siliconized ceiling or something along
those lanes. But I just stay within their system. I
think it's an easy answer.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Is stay within the system, and then if you have problems,
they're not going to say, well, you didn't use what we.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Told you to use.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Okay, Okay, I hear you, and I agree with you.
I just wanted to another person. Is expensive. It's like
probably I need you know, it's like three hundred dollars
plus they have to mal it to me because it
no longer carries it Jarry Washington. But the other thing
is I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
You have to go.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'll put you on hold.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
If you can hang on, I'll get you on the
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Speaker 1 (19:19):
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after the.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Top of the hour, talking a little home improvement and
glad you could join me.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I appreciate that. And if you got to question dolls up,
it's eight hundred and eighty two three eight two five
five and we're talking with Catherine, and Catherine you had
a second question, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
So I know you worked with Hardy Backerboard in the past,
and this is kind of to relate because it's the
shower now room, and you know how they recommend, at
least what I've read, they recommended using a feeling and
then using the strips of not netting, but whatever you
(23:07):
call it. Yes, thank you, the tape and to reinforce it.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
I've done that in the past and I've had trouble
with it. And so this company, the shower company, recommends
just using their UH and the crylic.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I can't remember right now, and I try to go
on the website to give you the exact information and
their maintenance. I know it's just like one thing.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
If this ever gets done, it's going to be the
nine lives of the shower. So anyway, they recommend just
using their acrylic on the on the crack and then
using this tape and fillan that they recommend with their system.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
What would you recommend?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, I mean, I get you with that netting and
that netting tape can sometimes be a little problemsome. So
they obviously are acknowledged and that also, and it sounds
like they have maybe even a little bit more of
a waterproofing system or a better adhering system. And i'd
probably again, you know, I'd probably stay in the system
(24:10):
and use their recommended products. And they're developed exactly for
what they're trying to build or what they're offering.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
You to build, right right, And then if you have
a window in that system, would you do their products?
On the window bill.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I would, I would for sure.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Okay, okay, think and one more real fast questions.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I bought a new window for this bathroom years ago.
I don't know how many, five, six, no, man, And
it has a little tap screw that came out. It's
rand new, it's barely been used.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
Where do you get those little tap screws?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Have those? So it's a thread cutting screw, you.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Know, it's been a while. I just was kicking your
brains as I had you.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
But it's just a really short screw.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
It doesn't have any bolts or anything in it, and
it just pulls the handle on.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
And it was loose and broken from the beginning. So
I can't tell you.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
You know where you.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Might need a larger one. If you can take the
other one out, take it to the hardware store, get
that size and then get the next diameter up their size,
like a number six screw, number eight screw, number ten screw.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
And just go to the next stop.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's probably a self tapping screw and they'll have they'll
have a little drawer full of them.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Okay, well, thank you your godsend I give How can
I give you a raise some way?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Now? No raises today. Very good, Thanks Catherine. I appreciate
it all right.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Our phone number is eight hundred and eight two three
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Speaker 1 (25:53):
Let's got a Randy. Randy welcome. How are you?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
How are you doing fine? Thanks good.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
I caught the tail end of you talking about the
carpenter bees. I've been an exterminator for over thirty years
and I've learned something from one of our customers. He
had eaves on a two story house that were tongue
in grooves. Would that were beautiful with carpenter bees? And
he asked me if we could do anything and naturally
(26:19):
up on a two story house, you can't sit and
spray each individual hole and kill him, right. So he's
a termint customers that we check his house every year.
I went back the following year and he told me
he found a solution for him. He took linseed oil
raw linseed oil and sprayed that wood and he's never
had a problem with him again. I've recommended it several
(26:41):
times to different people, and it seems to work. If
you can get to it the wood that's exposed, sprayed
lindseedal on it or painted on them. It does this
color of the wood a little bit, but it keeps
the carpenter bees away from that wood.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, and I can't say I heard about lindseed oil,
but I do know for a fact on a lot
of different studies. I kind of work with a company
called Rescue and they do a lot of different insect traps.
They do a tremendous carpenter bee trap, and I do
know that carpenter bees love to penetrate wood that is
(27:15):
stained and not painted, and that's why we see so
many of money sheds and things. So really, you know,
if you go back fifty years, you know all your
paints were linseed oil, which was fla seed and functions
as a paint, right, it's a preservative. And so just
(27:37):
taking two plus two, I'm getting four. Also coding with
a linseed or I'll probably do the same thing.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Yeah, it does. I'll take his house every year. And
this has probably been ten years ago that I first
talked to him about it, and he's never had a
problem with him since. Well, and I've recommended it many
times and been back to talk to people and still
no carpenter bees.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Good for you. You. I like that tip. I like that tip. Yeah,
I was kind of saying. Now a lot of them
carpenter bee's are pretty much done, as you know. And
those holes that are up there, even if you take.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Little cotton balls, that's what I do, cotton balls. Put
a little rubbing alcohol and stuff the cotton ball back
in there, and then make your patch. And uh, you know,
if you got the linseed oil on there, put a
little linse seed over that the patch too. Plus you
sterilize the hole and you're not going to have them
back right.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
So it's a little kip I thought in there.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I appreciate Randy. Thanks, take care of bye bye. All
right again it's eight one hundred eighty two three eight two.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Five five grab line talking about your home and Bill welcome.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Hey, good morning, Gary morning. I've got a floor problem.
I've got a real hardwood pre finished plank or I
guess you would call it, but it is real wood,
very thin veneer stuff moving a refrigerator around. I put
a sanded put three coats of polyrathane minlax polythane on it.
(29:07):
I taped off the area so I wouldn't second sand
exactly where I needed. My problem now is it looks beautiful.
It came out great, but there is of course a
step up where I put the blue tape down and
the three coats of polyer thing. I have a Milwaukee
Polisher buffer, and I cannot get that that thickness of
(29:30):
the polyrathane down the flows into the pre finished wood
floor that was already there. I've tried pour off steel
woll got a little more aggressive with the two twenty
sand paper, but nothing seems to really do it. Is
there a solvent and I could just put on it
(29:51):
with my finger or with a rag right at that
edge to kind of melt that back down to the
height of the floor itself.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Well, to answer your question, is there, yes, it would
be like a paint stripper. And I think what you're
gonna do is you're gonna make that You're gonna remove it,
and you're gonna make it cloudy.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
And I don't think it's really an option. I really
think what you would You're gonna hate my answer.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You almost have to, yeah, exactly exactly, And I think
that's kind of where you're at.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I just don't know, you know, I guess you could
take it in sand that whole area with a very
extrafying paper. You might try something like a four hundred
grid or even a six hundred grid wet dry paper.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
And.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You know, maybe even go a bigger area. So the
one part you're gonna work on minimizing the film. The
other area you're just gonna rough up to finish a
little bit, and then you're gonna recoat that. You know,
that area that you're working on. How far out you
have to go though, Bill, I don't know what that's
going to look like. The thing is is when ever
(31:11):
you're making a patch, and I feel your pain because
I've got wood floors and they moved out of refrigerator
about six months ago. It actually was so heavy it
dented the oak floor.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Well, that's what that's what this was. But it's on
the land. That's what I should have done was taped
to the end of each board, or or made myself
a tape line across the board, and it would look
it would look like the distance or the line between
two boards, right, It would not It would not have showed.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Up at all.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Right, So you forgot to call.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Me that When I started this point, I didn't call you.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Well I may have forgot anyway, So I mean, yeah,
I know you don't want to go back, but it's
still salvageable. Right.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Well, let's put it this way. It looks one hundred
percent better than it did right with the scratches. The
scratches were really bad. Uh, and you all they almost theyway.
But now I got this dmotation line. Maybe we walk
walk around the house with sandpaper on our shoes and try.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The wet dry paper.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Seriously, I mean it's a little bit, uh you know,
try it in an inconspicuous place and see what it's
going to do. But like, if you're going to uh
reureuthane a floor, one of the things I would do
is use a four hundred, maybe even a six hundred
(32:43):
little even finer you know, of a wet dry paper
where you're going to be able to remove some but
you know, maybe use the four hundred where the ridge
is a little higher, and then just six hundred.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
They tell me because I I tried to get professionals
to come and no one would touch it. He says,
you cannot refinish that floor. And I understand that I can.
I can get it about ninety percent better, right, which
they want to mess with because they knew my wife
wouldn't be satisfied with ninety percent, so they weren't going
to touch it. But it turned out. Okay, I will
try your six hundred grid. I was surprised that the
(33:22):
four hot steel wool when I used it. Even my
big lambs little buffer doesn't really want to take a
lot of that out. I'm afraid I'm going to make
it worse than what I start.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Well, yeah, it's a fine line. But you can remember
four hot steel wool they use on glass, so it's
pretty fine. I mean a window washer will use water
and soap and four hot steel wool to clean a
window from like tree sap. So your four hundred grid
wet dry paper is probably comparable to a two hot
(33:57):
steel wool, and your six hundred may be three outs,
so it's a little bit stronger stuff.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Okay, that's the black stuff, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yes, sir, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I've got some Hey, thank you, I'll give that a
try to see see what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
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we go. David, Welcome, How you doing? Gary doing fine, sir?
Speaker 9 (37:37):
Thanks a beautiful day out there.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Sure is.
Speaker 9 (37:41):
Hey, I I want to paint the brick on my house, okay,
last twenty years and I think it's going to happen.
And I was. I've done a lot of painting in
my life, but I've never painted brick. Okay, So what
do I need to know? Like what type of nap
(38:03):
should I use? And do I need the primate or yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, probably the biggest thing, you know, with all painting,
the number one thing is prep right, preparations the key.
So with brick, you know, there's a lot of different
kinds of brick, a lot of different ages of brick
which were made differently. You know, bricks around the early
nineteen hundreds were usually made literally right on site. And
(38:31):
there's a different.
Speaker 9 (38:32):
House a'm in. It is built in forty one. It's
like a smooth brick.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Ah, that's good. You gave me the perfect Yeah, you
gave me the perfect thing. I really. You know, it's
tough when you have reclaimed brick and stuff, when you
have brick that's made right on site. It's tough when
it's a wire cut brick. But what you got should
paint pretty easily.
Speaker 9 (38:53):
That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, do a little test though, to get a piece
of white cloth and rub it across that brick, because
brick does chalk, but not all the time. Depends really
how hard that brick is, and if it is, the
red comes off the brick and onto the cloth. We
(39:17):
definitely want to maybe really concentrate on removing as much
of that surface residue as we can. And if it.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Doesn't chalk, you just want to make sure it's clean,
dust free and all that. They'll definitely be dust on.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
It, and then I would use an acrylic bonding primer
or if you know a Sherman Williams or a you know,
Ben Moore has a specific brick primer that is recommended
on the finished coat pain can you might inquire about that. Otherwise,
(39:56):
just a standard acrylic exterior bonding primer on net brick,
and then you know your top of the line paints
are so awesome anymore, whether it is a Ben Moore
or Porter paint or you know Sherman Williams, they all
have these top of the line where there's self priming.
(40:16):
I know Sherman Williams is the Emerald House paint, which
is self priming.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
And it's okay that you've got a bonding primer on there,
and you're using a paint with a primer.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
What if I just.
Speaker 9 (40:32):
Wanted to put what if I just wanted to paint,
I don't want to do it in two steps if
I can avoid it, and if I I'd be willing
to go back over it with two coats of paint
versus putting a primer on.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Well, so, so you would be required to do that.
So if you had if you use the Sherman Williams Emerald.
Speaker 9 (40:54):
Paint, I've used that before.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Okay, and then you would have to use two codes
of that, okay if you were going to use a
bonding primer, and you would you could get by with
one coat okay, so and and a lot and I
would say, if you've got a lot of chalking off.
Speaker 9 (41:18):
There, and you I don't think I do.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
You probably don't. On that brick, you probably don't. If
it was reclaimed brick, i'd say you probably do. I'm
pretty yeah. Yeah, But either two coats of the paint
with a primer or a bonding primer, and then a
coat with a primer.
Speaker 9 (41:38):
All right, all right, that's all I need to know. Yeah,
thank you man, all.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Right, thank you, take care bye bye. Yeah. And on brick,
if it were chalking, you get rid of the chalk,
do a bonding primer, and then still do two coats
of the emeralds. So it really depends on what kind
of shape you're actually doing. Do a good look see
on that brick too, and based on the age of
(42:03):
that house, probably not gonna have many problems. Man, those
brick houses that they've built back then they were they
were that was good work. But check for any missing
mortar and just make sure you got a good, clean,
bondable surface, and you shouldn't have that much problem at all.
As far as the nap, it sounded like he was
(42:27):
going to roll it. It's really going to depend again,
if it's smooth, probably three ace of a nap, you're
probably gonna have to come by and.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Do all the mortar joints first, or if you want
to try a five a snap, But if that brick's
real smooth, you could almost get like an orange peel
effect because its almost too much paint on the smooth part,
and then it wouldn't be enough paint in the more joints.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
So you got a couple options. You can just paint
or cut the mortar joints in and then come back
and do your surface cutting with a three eighth or
a half inch cover if you want to try and
get the h and you can try at the bottom
down at the lower part of the house and just
see how well and what kind of finish it lays
(43:16):
down with a five ace inch nap on the roller
be really ideal. If we could spray it, that would
give you a really good look, and that might be
something you want to consider with some of the sprayers
that are out there. A lot taping, but it also
the speed for the field goes a lot faster also.
(43:36):
All right, we're talking home improvement as we do every weekend.
If you'd like to grab a line, we've got one
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